Re: PC viruses on Macs with Virtual PC??? (was: real estate situation)
On Jul 14, 2005, at 12:15 AM, Claire Hart wrote: applications via Virtual PC will become a target for all of the viruses, worms, etc., that PC users have become use to. Is that true? Will I become susceptible to all the stuff going around? After all, I would be accessing the internet through some of the software that will run on Virtual PC. What is the experience of those who run Virtual PC and Windows apps on their Macs in this regard? Claire Well, it's windows, so you'd be vulnerable to windows viruses and spyware on the windows side. pretty straightforward! The Mac isn't magic, it can't protect Windows. The good news is you can protect it with free software just fine, no reason to buy anything. Zonealarm as a firewall www.zonealarm.com AVG for free antivirus (google for the web site) Spybot Search and Destroy for some spyware AdAware for other adware/spyware and use Firefox not IE for web surfing when you can, although a lot of the relator web stuff likely needs activeX which means IE has to be run. www.mozilla.org You'd be fine. You can spend about $200 on commercial products to replace the above but they don't work as well often, or need constant renewal fees to keep them up to date. B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: PC viruses on Macs with Virtual PC??? (was: real estate situation)
At 11:15 PM -0500 7/13/05, Claire Hart wrote: I really appreciate everyone's feedback on my Macs in real estate dilemma. Having weighed all of the info, and having already purchased Virtual PC, I'm wondering at this point if I even WANT to put Virtual PC on my computer. Several people mentioned the fact that a Mac running Windows applications via Virtual PC will become a target for all of the viruses, worms, etc., that PC users have become use to. Is that true? Will I become susceptible to all the stuff going around? Yes. It's a PC, just like a real hardware PC. But it would only affect the virtual disk that Virtual PC uses for Windows. And this can be backed up easily for quick recovery. Your Mac stuff should be okay, as it is now. - web -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: PC viruses on Macs with Virtual PC??? (was: real estate situation)
On Jul 14, 2005, at 3:36 AM, Brian McEwen wrote: On Jul 14, 2005, at 12:15 AM, Claire Hart wrote: applications via Virtual PC will become a target for all of the viruses, worms, etc., that PC users have become use to. Is that true? Will I become susceptible to all the stuff going around? After all, I would be accessing the internet through some of the software that will run on Virtual PC. What is the experience of those who run Virtual PC and Windows apps on their Macs in this regard? Claire Well, it's windows, so you'd be vulnerable to windows viruses and spyware on the windows side. pretty straightforward! The Mac isn't magic, it can't protect Windows. The good news is you can protect it with free software just fine, no reason to buy anything. Zonealarm as a firewall www.zonealarm.com AVG for free antivirus (google for the web site) Spybot Search and Destroy for some spyware AdAware for other adware/spyware and use Firefox not IE for web surfing when you can, although a lot of the relator web stuff likely needs activeX which means IE has to be run. www.mozilla.org You'd be fine. You can spend about $200 on commercial products to replace the above but they don't work as well often, or need constant renewal fees to keep them up to date. All above is good advice. I'd go further and advise you not use Outlook Express for email on the virtual Windows. Use either Thunderbird (related to Firefox) or just use Eudora for Windows in free mode. Also, when you set up the Windows Virtual Machine, make a duplicate of it. Store all data not on the VM but in a Shared Folder. This is shared with the Macintosh, and actually lives in the Mac space of the disk. When the virtual machine gets infested, throw it away and start using the duplicate. (Make a duplicate of it too, so you can eventually throw away Duplicate 1 and press Duplicate 2 into service.) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: PC viruses on Macs with Virtual PC??? (was: real estate situation)
On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Bill Briggs wrote: At 1:08 PM -0700 7/14/05, Dan O'Donnell wrote: All above is good advice. I'd go further and advise you not use Outlook Express for email on the virtual Windows. Use either Thunderbird (related to Firefox) or just use Eudora for Windows in free mode Given that e-mail is platform agnostic, it would make sense to do no e-mail at all on the Windows side. Just use mail on the Mac. - web Actually, one of the very nice things that Outlook does for you is handle the central Exchange calendar, meetings, notes, group invites, etc. Outlook is a great way to expose yourself to Bad Things but it is mostly essential for proper functioning in the real corporate world. You can do some things (turn off the preview pane, make sure your virus stuff is watching your email etc) to make it more secure; my guess is you'll not just have to run it, but want to run it, for access to all the group stuff at the workplace. B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
email on Win (was Re: PC viruses on Macs with Virtual PC??? (was: real estate situation))
On Jul 14, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Brian McEwen wrote: On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Bill Briggs wrote: At 1:08 PM -0700 7/14/05, Dan O'Donnell wrote: All above is good advice. I'd go further and advise you not use Outlook Express for email on the virtual Windows. Use either Thunderbird (related to Firefox) or just use Eudora for Windows in free mode Given that e-mail is platform agnostic, it would make sense to do no e-mail at all on the Windows side. Just use mail on the Mac. - web Actually, one of the very nice things that Outlook does for you is handle the central Exchange calendar, meetings, notes, group invites, etc. Outlook is a great way to expose yourself to Bad Things but it is mostly essential for proper functioning in the real corporate world. You can do some things (turn off the preview pane, make sure your virus stuff is watching your email etc) to make it more secure; my guess is you'll not just have to run it, but want to run it, for access to all the group stuff at the workplace. That is true of Outlook, and Outlook is unavoidable in a corporate environment where Exchange is the email server. (It works well too.) My reference however, was to Outlook Express, which has the bad points of Outlook (i.e. vulnerabilities to malware) and few to none of the advantages wrt corporate email environments. This is getting pretty far off-topic from G-Books though... :-) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
PC viruses on Macs with Virtual PC??? (was: real estate situation)
I really appreciate everyone's feedback on my Macs in real estate dilemma. Having weighed all of the info, and having already purchased Virtual PC, I'm wondering at this point if I even WANT to put Virtual PC on my computer. Several people mentioned the fact that a Mac running Windows applications via Virtual PC will become a target for all of the viruses, worms, etc., that PC users have become use to. Is that true? Will I become susceptible to all the stuff going around? After all, I would be accessing the internet through some of the software that will run on Virtual PC. What is the experience of those who run Virtual PC and Windows apps on their Macs in this regard? Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: real estate situation
On Jul 6, 2005, at 8:51 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 06/07/05 19:29, david at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:58 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 6, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Claire, I'm afraid I have to agree with Tim when it comes to VPC. In most cases, VPC is too slow. I'll third this motion. I've been installing Win XP Pro on my Mac (800 Mhz G4) *all day long*, and I'm only about mostly done with the Service Pack 2, much less get the VPC attached to the network and updated further. Plus bleeping VPC is sucking every processor cycle it can get it's greedy little hands on. One major issue is the OS version you install. WinXP is a resource hog. My homebrew PC that was snappy with Win2k crawled under Win2k. VPC on my alBook runs Win98, Millennium, and Win2k well enough to use. WinXP isn't acceptable at all. In fact, I wouldn't even use WinXP on my dually G5. And WinXP doesn't add much that can't be found in Win2000, except maybe more fancy icons... Remote Desktop Connection (RDC) is built in to XP Pro, but must be added to Windows 2000. I find this to be very helpful and it may actually be a partial solution to the OP's problem. I do this regularly with a server-based application in my office that is Windows only. If she is forced to eventually get a cheap Windows box to view the MLS and connect to the office Windows server, XP will do this easily and RDC will allow the Mac and Win boxes to work together. From Microsoft Office on Macintosh, she can use RDC to connect to and control the Windows machine, which can connect to or run the MLS and connect to the Windows server. It doesn't avoid the annoyance of two computers to do one task, but it allows her to use her Mac for daily use, and the Windows box for the specialized purpose. The not-very-helpful administrator can be happy that he gets to ignore the Mac and only admin the Win box. As an aside, WinXP works better in VPC 7 than Win2k. Another side note, stay with the default allocation of 256MB of physical RAM for the XP virtual machine. VPC7 is optimized for this, and you actually get degraded performance if you do what we all have been trained to do - allocate more physical memory to a process. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: real estate situation
Here's my 2 cents. Virtual PC runs very well but slowly on every Mac I've ever put it on including my G5 iMac. At least on the G5, it runs half way fast but on this 1.2 gig iBook, it's tedious at best. When VPC (I have the latest version--7) is running, for all intents and purposes you are using a PCbut I really think that you're going to be sort of crippled trying to use it. As much as I am a total MacAddict and even hate to say the following, I think it must be said for you to be competitive. Get a cheap PC laptop for use at work (there, I typed it and didn't explode). You can still exchange information with it and your Mac. Good Luck in your new career. Tim On Jul 5, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Claire Hart wrote: Possibly three weeks ago, I posted to this list that I would probably be headed into real estate soon. I have since taken the required courses and am waiting to take the state certification test in a few weeks. The company I will work with uses several pieces of software that is Windows-based. No one has Macs. The real estate school I attended confirmed that NO ONE in the business uses Macs. Much of the computer use is for accessing things online, but some of it is actually running Windows-based real estate applications which is installed on each agent's computer. (Realtors are independent, and therefore buy their own software, etc.) When I posted a few weeks ago, everyone recommended that Virtual PC is the way to go. Today I talked to the person that handles computer support for the company I will be working for. (He is not in-house, but works independently.) He says he has worked on Macs, but he doesn't know what Virtual PC is, and he can't believe that I don't have antivirus software running. I can tell that he has not WORKED on Macs. He says that if he has to support my computer to keep it current and to keep it virus-free, I will have to pay additionally for his tech support. I told him that I've never in 13 years ever paid for technical support. The last time I bought antivirus software was for my 1993 Centris (no, that is not a car). In other words, he doesn't understand my questions at all. I just want to know if the software I will be required to use can run through Virtual PC. He did tell me that the whole office runs on a server. The word server is not exactly good news. I think that the office has a staff person that installs everyone's software for them. After that phone call, I figured that the only thing I have to lose is the price of Virtual PC. If it doesn't work, I'll have to go buy a PC laptop. Either way, I'll be loading the same software onto either my PowerBook with Virtual PC, or onto a PC laptop. So, here is my request one more time: Is anyone out there selling real estate, using current software that is written for real estate agents, and accomplishing it with a Mac? Or do you know of someone who is? Please, please, please respond if it is working for you. Desperately, Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- Exterminate all rational though. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: real estate situation
Have managed to run just about any software on the various versions of VPC, especially 5 and 6. Specifically, the schlock put out by the mexican banks and government and (non schlock) accounting software put out by a small softworks down here in Mexico. Has also been useful for believe it or not accessing Mexican bank and the Mexican IRS webpages that don't seem to fly under Mac browsers. So it is definitely worth a try. My only failure was a piece of software put out by a large company that is a viewer for maps of Mexico city. It's copy protection scheme apparently has a problem with the v.6.x VPC API implementation. So I bought a pirate copy. (already own a legal copy, and the publisher refused to make it work). Not sure if the v. 7.x VPC implementation works. Things will be a bit slower, so it depends as to how intense your windows needs will be. I'd take a shot at it. Never mind the tech support fussing. If all he's looking for is virii and network issues, you are not the droid he is looking for. F. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: real estate situation
Claire, I got to thinking again about your dilemma and did a search and came up with the following: Virtual PC for Real Estate Use? Can I use an Apple 14 iBook 1.33 GHz with 768MB RAM as my Real Estate Platform? In my case (California) I needed to work with two key Windows based programs. Let me call them WinForms and Paragon, the MLS search capability via Internet Explorer. I knew I would need Virtual PC to handle WinForms and it turned out to be mandatory for Paragon, too. WinForms provided no problems from the beginning, but Paragon was a long struggle. Yesterday was a break-through and it is working like a champ. I get instant results from even the most complicated search. The major things I had to do were, upgrade to VPC 7.0.1 and get the exact configuration of IE instructions from Paragon. The results are spectacular. You might want to read the bio for Peggy Madsen at the following url and possibly contact her and get advice. http://www.real-estate-rockies.com/profiles.html Another thing you could try is contacting your local and state board of Realtors and the MLS in your area. They may know of a Realtor who does use a Mac. kt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Virii are still very much an issue with Windows under VPC. You'll have to use and maintain AV software same as with a 'regular' wintel PC. Heh heh, as for getting support from any PC 'support' drones, just switch VPC to full screen mode . . . they probably won't even know the difference! :-D Heck, for all intents and purposes, there _isn't_ any difference! dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Jul 6, 2005, at 3:55 AM, Tim Collier wrote: Here's my 2 cents. Virtual PC runs very well but slowly on every Mac I've ever put it on including my G5 iMac. At least on the G5, it runs half way fast but on this 1.2 gig iBook, it's tedious at best. When VPC (I have the latest version--7) is running, for all intents and purposes you are using a PCbut I really think that you're going to be sort of crippled trying to use it. As much as I am a total MacAddict and even hate to say the following, I think it must be said for you to be competitive. Get a cheap PC laptop for use at work (there, I typed it and didn't explode). You can still exchange information with it and your Mac. Good Luck in your new career. Tim On Jul 5, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Claire Hart wrote: Claire, I'm afraid I have to agree with Tim when it comes to VPC. In most cases, VPC is too slow. My cousin's wife went up against the same thing. . .she recently graduated from the Bar Association, but wanted to practice law on her Mac. She bugged the crap outta' me since I'm the known mac expert in the family to see if she could do this. After battling the lapse of speed issues and constant badgering from software developers that hardley know Mac even exists, she finally took my advice to get a cheap laptop (eBay for $350.00) and the necessary AV software (a MUST on any PC these days), she can rule in court effectively. Being a Mac User as heart, she still uses her Mac for everything else though, and recently informed me that several software developers are finally working on specific attorney standard programs that are OS X based. I think it's safe to assume that this will happen to the real estate market as well very soon. . .even before the Intel based Macs are introduced. Slowly but surly many developers are FINALLY getting the clue that the Mac is overall a virus free environment. Another friend of mine is waiting for the same thing, he's a CPA. . .a field were viruses could put you behind bars if not stopped. Hope my two cents count. . .and remember, you're not the only one in this situation! :) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Jul 6, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Claire, I'm afraid I have to agree with Tim when it comes to VPC. In most cases, VPC is too slow. I'll third this motion. I've been installing Win XP Pro on my Mac (800 Mhz G4) *all day long*, and I'm only about mostly done with the Service Pack 2, much less get the VPC attached to the network and updated further. Plus bleeping VPC is sucking every processor cycle it can get it's greedy little hands on. Slowly but surly many developers are FINALLY getting the clue that the Mac is overall a virus free environment. Yes, I'd agree with you that many developers are particularly surly. :-P Interesting that you bring up law as a field; Apple just posted a success story of a company that makes testing software for law schools called Electronic Blue Book, they ported a VBasic Windows app to the Mac in 12 days via RealBasic, from not owning a Mac to having an alpha version running with all features: http://developer.apple.com/business/macmarket/electronicbluebook.html We need to send this link to all of those surly developers...I'd wager that nearly every one of those Real Estate apps are VB programs...VB is a large player in the vertical market realm They may even like it, RealBasic lets them write programs for Windows, Macs and Linux simultaneously... -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Once upon a time (Tue Jul 05), Claire Hart wrote: Today I talked to the person that handles computer support for the company I will be working for. (He is not in-house, but works independently.) He says he has worked on Macs, but he doesn't know what Virtual PC is, and he can't believe that I don't have antivirus software running. Claire, Virtual PC (VPC) is what it sounds like: it is a PC implemented in software rather than hardware. The software emulates a particular basic PC, including a particular level of Pentium CPU, graphics card, so on. Then you install a copy of MS Windows onto that virtual computer, and within that install other software. Functionally, Windows and the other software knows no difference between the virtual environment and a physical environment. You will only have issues with software which depends on particular hardware, especially graphics, to operate. The vast majority of non-game PC software will work just fine in VPC. Some esoteric software may not, but I seriously doubt that any mundane real estate software would have any issue. Unfortunately, the copy of Windows executing in the virtual PC is just as susceptible to viruses and worms as any other copy. It should have anti-virus software installed, both to protect itself and other Windows computers on the network. He did tell me that the whole office runs on a server. The word server is not exactly good news. I think that the office has a staff person that installs everyone's software for them. When the guy says server it is 99.9% likely that he is speaking only of simple file and printer serving, perhaps with a Windows domain security scheme. They also probably use Exchange for email/calendaring. The Mac OS X works fine with such servers, and the Windows within VPC would as well. That is not an issue. In the PC world, a server typically serves only files and printers, and perhaps database connections, although recently with remote desktop software a PC server can actually execute applications for display on client machines. But even if they are doing that, which I really doubt given the guy's apparent level of competence, you shouldn't have a problem. So, here is my request one more time: Is anyone out there selling real estate, using current software that is written for real estate agents, and accomplishing it with a Mac? Or do you know of someone who is? Please, please, please respond if it is working for you. I work with clients who are realtors, using software to access the MLS system. Until a couple years ago, they were still using ancient DOS software connecting via a dial-up connection to the MLS server. They now use a more modern Windows based software package, which accesses the MLS data over the Internet. But that software is still trivial. Also, I did a quick Google search for Macs and MLS, and found this blurb: New Tech Support Group Formed for Mac Users Are you a Macintosh user? Join the new REALTOR® Macintosh Users Group, REMUG. This group is committed to finding solutions to issues involving Macintosh systems and real estate software. Contact Michael Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. So, somebody out there is using a Mac. Larry -- Lawrence Weeks[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anabasis Consulting Ltd -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:58 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 6, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Claire, I'm afraid I have to agree with Tim when it comes to VPC. In most cases, VPC is too slow. I'll third this motion. I've been installing Win XP Pro on my Mac (800 Mhz G4) *all day long*, and I'm only about mostly done with the Service Pack 2, much less get the VPC attached to the network and updated further. Plus bleeping VPC is sucking every processor cycle it can get it's greedy little hands on. One major issue is the OS version you install. WinXP is a resource hog. My homebrew PC that was snappy with Win2k crawled under Win2k. VPC on my alBook runs Win98, Millennium, and Win2k well enough to use. WinXP isn't acceptable at all. In fact, I wouldn't even use WinXP on my dually G5. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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on 06/07/05 19:29, david at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:58 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 6, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Claire, I'm afraid I have to agree with Tim when it comes to VPC. In most cases, VPC is too slow. I'll third this motion. I've been installing Win XP Pro on my Mac (800 Mhz G4) *all day long*, and I'm only about mostly done with the Service Pack 2, much less get the VPC attached to the network and updated further. Plus bleeping VPC is sucking every processor cycle it can get it's greedy little hands on. One major issue is the OS version you install. WinXP is a resource hog. My homebrew PC that was snappy with Win2k crawled under Win2k. VPC on my alBook runs Win98, Millennium, and Win2k well enough to use. WinXP isn't acceptable at all. In fact, I wouldn't even use WinXP on my dually G5. And WinXP doesn't add much that can't be found in Win2000, except maybe more fancy icons... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] bug-compatible adj.: [common] Said of a design or revision that has been badly compromised by a requirement to be compatible with fossils or misfeatures in other programs or (esp.) previous releases of itself. MS-DOS 2.0 used \ as apath separator to be bug-compatible with some cretin's choice of / as an option character in 1.0. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Possibly three weeks ago, I posted to this list that I would probably be headed into real estate soon. I have since taken the required courses and am waiting to take the state certification test in a few weeks. The company I will work with uses several pieces of software that is Windows-based. No one has Macs. The real estate school I attended confirmed that NO ONE in the business uses Macs. Much of the computer use is for accessing things online, but some of it is actually running Windows-based real estate applications which is installed on each agent's computer. (Realtors are independent, and therefore buy their own software, etc.) When I posted a few weeks ago, everyone recommended that Virtual PC is the way to go. Today I talked to the person that handles computer support for the company I will be working for. (He is not in-house, but works independently.) He says he has worked on Macs, but he doesn't know what Virtual PC is, and he can't believe that I don't have antivirus software running. I can tell that he has not WORKED on Macs. He says that if he has to support my computer to keep it current and to keep it virus-free, I will have to pay additionally for his tech support. I told him that I've never in 13 years ever paid for technical support. The last time I bought antivirus software was for my 1993 Centris (no, that is not a car). In other words, he doesn't understand my questions at all. I just want to know if the software I will be required to use can run through Virtual PC. He did tell me that the whole office runs on a server. The word server is not exactly good news. I think that the office has a staff person that installs everyone's software for them. After that phone call, I figured that the only thing I have to lose is the price of Virtual PC. If it doesn't work, I'll have to go buy a PC laptop. Either way, I'll be loading the same software onto either my PowerBook with Virtual PC, or onto a PC laptop. So, here is my request one more time: Is anyone out there selling real estate, using current software that is written for real estate agents, and accomplishing it with a Mac? Or do you know of someone who is? Please, please, please respond if it is working for you. Desperately, Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Claire, Having been a Realtor in a former life, I think you may be hitting a brick wall. I think the IT person is trying to nicely tell you he/she doesn't want any parts of your Mac, Virtual PC or anything Steve Jobs. Most states and individual counties can use varying brands of software and they may or may not work with VPC. If there is a Windoze network involved the process gets uglier. I just recently left an institution of higher learner where I was a graphic designer. The design studio consisted of all macs and when IT had to come over to do something to resolve server issues all they did was moan and graon. They HATE Mac users. I have just learned that in the coming FY06 all Macs will be removed from the campus. They even have a communication arts program and they won't be serving the students for entry into the real world. You might want to look for one of those Best Buy, Circuit City, Costco or Sam's Club laptops and make your life easier because you won't need computer headaches starting out as a Realtor. My hat is off to you as it is one hard profession. Good Luck! kt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Not using real estate Software, but I can tell you this- I use VPC 6.1, with windows 2000 pro, and I have office 2003 loaded on it as well. It runs fine. I've handled some databases, spreadsheets, word docs, no problems. I've also been able to run some accounting programs on VPC with no issues for some classes, along with all the pc CDs I get with textbooks for college. Your tech guy has no clue what is going on. It's obvious that he has no idea that there are currently NO,( NONE ZERO) viruses out there for the mac OS X, nor have there ever been. The worst possible situation is that you have a windows virus sent to you that gets passed on to others in your business. Of course, this is no big deal if they have virus protection software on. He also has no clue about mac support, so you really don't want his help to begin with. As to no one in the business using macs, I seriously doubt that. I've had teachers tell me the same of accounting, then last spring I found an accounting firm that operates solely on G4 iMacs. In fact, they still tell me that, even though I've found plenty of accounting SW for the mac. So much for what they knew. Alot of business profs I've run into don't even believe me when I tell them that there is a mac version of MS Office that does everything the windows version does. You may have to be a bit of a trail blazer if you really want to use the mac, but I'm sure you can do it effectively. Why not try and find some system requirements for the software you will need to use, and I'm sure someone on this list will be able to find out if VPC on your powerbook will be able to handle it. You could also try the Apple discussion forums, in order broaden your search. Brian On Jul 5, 2005, at 5:00 PM, Claire Hart wrote: Possibly three weeks ago, I posted to this list that I would probably be headed into real estate soon. I have since taken the required courses and am waiting to take the state certification test in a few weeks. The company I will work with uses several pieces of software that is Windows-based. No one has Macs. The real estate school I attended confirmed that NO ONE in the business uses Macs. Much of the computer use is for accessing things online, but some of it is actually running Windows-based real estate applications which is installed on each agent's computer. (Realtors are independent, and therefore buy their own software, etc.) When I posted a few weeks ago, everyone recommended that Virtual PC is the way to go. Today I talked to the person that handles computer support for the company I will be working for. (He is not in-house, but works independently.) He says he has worked on Macs, but he doesn't know what Virtual PC is, and he can't believe that I don't have antivirus software running. I can tell that he has not WORKED on Macs. He says that if he has to support my computer to keep it current and to keep it virus-free, I will have to pay additionally for his tech support. I told him that I've never in 13 years ever paid for technical support. The last time I bought antivirus software was for my 1993 Centris (no, that is not a car). In other words, he doesn't understand my questions at all. I just want to know if the software I will be required to use can run through Virtual PC. He did tell me that the whole office runs on a server. The word server is not exactly good news. I think that the office has a staff person that installs everyone's software for them. After that phone call, I figured that the only thing I have to lose is the price of Virtual PC. If it doesn't work, I'll have to go buy a PC laptop. Either way, I'll be loading the same software onto either my PowerBook with Virtual PC, or onto a PC laptop. So, here is my request one more time: Is anyone out there selling real estate, using current software that is written for real estate agents, and accomplishing it with a Mac? Or do you know of someone who is? Please, please, please respond if it is working for you. Desperately, Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
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If anyone is interested, I think I have a fix for the wallstreet 13.3 screen problem (white lines appearing). Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Claire I, too, would encourage you to try it with VPC. I responded to your last email on the subject and mentioned I had used financial analysis software on my PB that a couple people told me would absolutely require a PC. I booted VPC, then the software and to everyone's amazement, everything on the monitor looked just like a PC and the software ran fine. Re the network a friend of mine uses his Powerbook stand-alone at work in a PC network environment. He works for a large department in L.A. County. Much of what they use for software is found in Office, so he has no problem using templates and sharing files. One day an IT came into the office to work on a couple machines and saw my friend's PB. The IT stated he had one just about like it except it was the Al Book, not Ti. He stated that he frequently took it out on IT jobs and plugged into the network/intranet. I don't know how it is done but all the guy said is they don't want any virus pollution so they would check the Mac before allowing my buddy to hook his up. Yes, you could just get an inexpensive PC laptop and that in the end may be the simplest way to go, but I don't think it would be too difficult to try the VPC first. Maybe you could find a Mac Genius (form an Apple store, a Mac user group, a local college or university) in your area who could come into the office with you and help get you into their network. Good luck!! Don Claire Hart wrote: Possibly three weeks ago, I posted to this list that I would probably be headed into real estate soon. I have since taken the required courses and am waiting to take the state certification test in a few weeks. The company I will work with uses several pieces of software that is Windows-based. No one has Macs. The real estate school I attended confirmed that NO ONE in the business uses Macs. Much of the computer use is for accessing things online, but some of it is actually running Windows-based real estate applications which is installed on each agent's computer. (Realtors are independent, and therefore buy their own software, etc.) When I posted a few weeks ago, everyone recommended that Virtual PC is the way to go. Today I talked to the person that handles computer support for the company I will be working for. (He is not in-house, but works independently.) He says he has worked on Macs, but he doesn't know what Virtual PC is, and he can't believe that I don't have antivirus software running. I can tell that he has not WORKED on Macs. He says that if he has to support my computer to keep it current and to keep it virus-free, I will have to pay additionally for his tech support. I told him that I've never in 13 years ever paid for technical support. The last time I bought antivirus software was for my 1993 Centris (no, that is not a car). In other words, he doesn't understand my questions at all. I just want to know if the software I will be required to use can run through Virtual PC. He did tell me that the whole office runs on a server. The word server is not exactly good news. I think that the office has a staff person that installs everyone's software for them. After that phone call, I figured that the only thing I have to lose is the price of Virtual PC. If it doesn't work, I'll have to go buy a PC laptop. Either way, I'll be loading the same software onto either my PowerBook with Virtual PC, or onto a PC laptop. So, here is my request one more time: Is anyone out there selling real estate, using current software that is written for real estate agents, and accomplishing it with a Mac? Or do you know of someone who is? Please, please, please respond if it is working for you. Desperately, Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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If anyone is interested, I think I have a fix for the wallstreet 13.3 screen problem (white lines appearing). Go on then ... Apart from taking the screen apart and taping the cable in place ? -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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At 5:00 PM -0500 7/5/05, Claire Hart wrote: He says that if he has to support my computer to keep it current and to keep it virus-free, I will have to pay additionally for his tech support. Okay, tell me why you would want to pay someone to support your Mac who by his own admission doesn't know squat about it? Doesn't make sense to me. I've worked in an all Windows network environment with a Mac before, and currently work on a campus with a mix of Win, Mac, Solaris, and Linux. So far there have been no insurmountable barriers to anything. - web -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Dylan McDermond wrote: On Jul 5, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Don wrote: Maybe you could find a Mac Genius (form an Apple store, a Mac user group, a local college or university) in your area who could come into the office with you and help get you into their network. It's just a hunch, but something tells me that the IT guy wouldn't take kindly to someone fiddling with their network, especially to get a machine they don't want supported onto it. - Dylan I'm sure that's a good hunch but a Machead who speaks the language might be able to bridge the gap between the IT and Claire's Mac without doing any hands on fiddling. That would require some face time and may not be worth the hassle but it's a possible solution if Claire really prefers to use her Mac. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Perhaps you can hold out until next year when the new Mac-Intels are out. Then you can boot in XP or Tiger depending on whether or not your IT buddy is hovering about ( ;-) ). Or, maybe by then, the whole company will have converted to the Intel flavour of OS X! (Sorry, I'm hoping to find the silver lining in this news. I hope you can use your Mac at work. I've given up on that, but years ago I schlepped my Plus into work at local power utility because I could finish a job that in PC Lotus 123 took 8 hours in 1/2 hour in Excel. I was accused of creating a data island by the IT staff who were clueless that I could export to Lotus format.) bem Mac Plus SE/30 Wallstreet eMac Pismo --- Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan McDermond wrote: On Jul 5, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Don wrote: Maybe you could find a Mac Genius (form an Apple store, a Mac user group, a local college or university) in your area who could come into the office with you and help get you into their network. It's just a hunch, but something tells me that the IT guy wouldn't take kindly to someone fiddling with their network, especially to get a machine they don't want supported onto it. - Dylan I'm sure that's a good hunch but a Machead who speaks the language might be able to bridge the gap between the IT and Claire's Mac without doing any hands on fiddling. That would require some face time and may not be worth the hassle but it's a possible solution if Claire really prefers to use her Mac. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
