(Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in startup disk control panel.

[Brian Durant]

Unplugging my scanner, graphics tablet and card reader before running a new
"archive and install" solved the problem.

On 9/21/08, Kris Tilford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't think this is a "blessing" issue.

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Reconstituting iTunes after problems on G5 with Leopard upgrade.

[Brian Durant]

Where do all of the iTunes bits reside on a system? I need to reconstitute
iTunes after problems upgrading from Tiger to Leopard using "archive and
install".
Cheers,

Brian

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Re: Reconstituting iTunes after problems on G5 with Leopard upgrade.

[Kris Tilford]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 2:53 AM, Brian Durant wrote:

> Where do all of the iTunes bits reside on a system?


Everything should be in your ~user>Music>iTunes folder, unless you've  
changed the location manually.


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Re: Reconstituting iTunes after problems on G5 with Leopard upgrade.

[Brian Durant]

I use an external HD for my main iTunes library.

On 9/22/08, Kris Tilford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2008, at 2:53 AM, Brian Durant wrote:
>
> > Where do all of the iTunes bits reside on a system?
>
> Everything should be in your ~user>Music>iTunes folder, unless you've
> changed the location manually.
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RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

I was looking in one of my many PCs and I saw a stick of RAM I've
never seen before
It is PC2100. Can any Macs use this type of RAM?

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Re: RAM Question

[Kris Tilford]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

> I was looking in one of my many PCs and I saw a stick of RAM I've
> never seen before
> It is PC2100. Can any Macs use this type of RAM?

It's pretty rare for Macs, but there are two that can use it.

The PowerMac G4 desktop MDD 867MHz and the PowerMac G4 desktop FW800  
1GHz. They can also use PC2700 or PC3200, so it'd probably be better  
to use the faster RAM which is often cheaper too.

Some of the Flatpanel G4 iMacs use PC2100 SoDimm laptop RAM, but same  
deal, they can use PC2700 or PC3200 SoDimm also.


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Re: MDD startup problem and solution, and a question.

[moss]

I have a similar sort of problem with a MDD i recently bought. It will
not restart if you shut down from the software (menu). It will only
restart if you unplug it for a few seconds, and then plug it back in.
If you do a hard shut down by holding the power button, (hardware
shutdown), it will start up fine. I thought it was a software/pram
issue, but the more i searched this on various boards (i'll find a
link tomorrow- sorry)  it seems to be a dying power supply issue.
Please let me know if you get it to work with a reset, i haven't been
so lucky and have been thinking about finding a power supply.

I hope your issue is a bad battery. If it wouldn't hold the time/date
for an hour if you had the computer unplugged, just replace it. they
are cheap enough and you can rule that out.

-moss

On Sep 20, 8:19 pm, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sharing this here, since a search of my archive of the list doesn't turn 
> up this info.
>
> A couple of days ago, when I was doing various cabling changes inside my 
> FireWire 800 MDD, at one point it wouldn't start up at all. I mean no visual 
> or aural indication of any activity when I pressed the power button in 
> various ways. Then, after other changes, it finally did and then, shortly 
> after in the same configuration, it didn't!
>
> To make a long story short, after I had given up and was starting to move my 
> drives and more into my old Dual 867 MDD, a friend came over for help with 
> his Pismo that he was having a problem with.* I was able to do a web search 
> that quickly turned up the solution:
>
> ::: When the MDD won't power up, just unplug the power cord for 10 seconds 
> and plug it in again!
>
>  I realize that if I had done the right thing and unplugged the power cord 
> before working inside the computer, the problem wouldn't have arisen during 
> that process, but it might have shown up the next time I shut down and tried 
> to restart after I finished working on it.
>
> QUESTION: Is it likely that this strange behavior presages any more serious 
> problems? If so, what can I do about it beforehand?
>
> Also, (1) can I check the PRAM battery without removing it and (2) how does 
> one remove it? I'm guessing the PRAM battery may be bad because, when I 
> reconnect after disconnection, I get the message about the computer's date 
> being too old. (Since the computer automatically connects to the internet, 
> the date & time get corrected quickly.)
>
> Note, though, that the same person who reported the solution above also said 
> that replacing his PRAM battery, although it solved other problems, didn't 
> solve the startup problem.
>
>  - Aaron
>
> * Actually, the Pismo was having a problem with _him_. The problem is that, 
> despite having good enough mental powers to be a decent casual chess player, 
> he's so tech-phobic that he can barely use his cell phone beyond calling and 
> answering. More to the point, he can't remember what the TCP/IP Control Panel 
> is for.

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Re: extend the range of my airport extreme to express?

[dc]

I use a Linksys WRE54G wireless range extender which practically
doubles the effective range of my wireless router. Just plug it in,
push the "auto configure" button, and it works. I don't know if there
is an "N" version yet It's my understanding that any one "G"
device on a network will drop the whole network speed to G.
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Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in startup disk control panel.

[Al Poulin]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 4:02 AM, g3-5-list group wrote:
>
> == 1 of 1 ==
> Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 12:46 am
> From: "Brian Durant"
>
>
> Unplugging my scanner, graphics tablet and card reader before  
> running a new
> "archive and install" solved the problem.

Great.  Let's assume that this is not merely a coincidence, but is  
"cause and effect."  Brian's troublesome case illustrates the fact  
that Apple should do a much better job at advising users what  to do  
BEFORE beginning an OS installation.  Buried deep in Apple's  
documentation are several statements about removing peripheral devices  
from the machine.  This guidance should be up front and preemptive.

On the retail install CD for Leopard, the "Install & Setup Guide" has  
this near the end:

"The installation wasn’t successful.
If you were unable to install Mac OS X, try the following:
• Disconnect external devices you don’t need during installation.
• Use Disk Utility to repair your hard disk."

That first bullet should have a prominent place in the "Read Before  
You Install."

At Apple's on-line article TS1394, there is this:  "Disconnect devices  
not used during installation and remove non-Apple RAM" - "If the issue  
persists, disconnect any other drives you may have connected to your  
computer and retry your installation. Other devices could potentially  
affect your installation."

Again, this guidance should be preventive, and not shown only in a  
troubleshooting section.

I think I'll go to an Apple forum with this.

Al Poulin
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Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in startup disk control panel.

[Simon Royal]

Hi.

I have never unplugged any peripherals while upgrading any of my Macs on 
Panther, Tiger or Leopard and never had a problem with any updates or 
installations.

Simon

--- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71)

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Subject: Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in startup disk 
control  panel.
From: Al Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22/09/2008 16:10


On Sep 22, 2008, at 4:02 AM, g3-5-list group wrote:
>
> == 1 of 1 ==
> Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 12:46 am
> From: "Brian Durant"
>
>
> Unplugging my scanner, graphics tablet and card reader before  
> running a new
> "archive and install" solved the problem.

Great.  Let's assume that this is not merely a coincidence, but is  
"cause and effect."  Brian's troublesome case illustrates the fact  
that Apple should do a much better job at advising users what  to do  
BEFORE beginning an OS installation.  Buried deep in Apple's  
documentation are several statements about removing peripheral devices  
from the machine.  This guidance should be up front and preemptive.

On the retail install CD for Leopard, the "Install & Setup Guide" has  
this near the end:

"The installation wasn’t successful.
If you were unable to install Mac OS X, try the following:
• Disconnect external devices you don’t need during installation.
• Use Disk Utility to repair your hard disk."

That first bullet should have a prominent place in the "Read Before  
You Install."

At Apple's on-line article TS1394, there is this:  "Disconnect devices  
not used during installation and remove non-Apple RAM" - "If the issue  
persists, disconnect any other drives you may have connected to your  
computer and retry your installation. Other devices could potentially  
affect your installation."

Again, this guidance should be preventive, and not shown only in a  
troubleshooting section.

I think I'll go to an Apple forum with this.

Al Poulin




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Re: John Gruber gets it....

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sep 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Doug Burton wrote:

>  The same with Windows, it's just DOS all dressed up and
> not much else.

Windows hasn't been "DOS all dressed up" since the advent of Windows  
NT. Win98 ME was the last version of Windows to be 'DOS based'.

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Re: Reconstituting iTunes after problems on G5 with Leopard upgrade.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 1:30 AM, Brian Durant wrote:

> I use an external HD for my main iTunes library.


If you did an archive&reinstall, those preferences should have  
migrated right along with your user profile. IAC, fire up iTunes and  
specify the library location in the prefs.

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Parallel ATA drive in a PM G5?

[Eric Volker]

Is there anyway to shoehorn an old fashioned PATA/EIDE drive into a  
Powermac G5? Right now I've got a 320GB PATA drive in a Firewire 400  
enclosure, but it's a bit slower than the internal 80GB. If I have  
to, I'll break down and buy a SATA drive but I was hoping I could  
avoid that with some kind of internal adapter. Does anyone know of  
such a thing that will fit inside of a G5 and work reliably?

Thanks,

Eric

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Re: Parallel ATA drive in a PM G5?

[Ralph]

Howdy,
  I have used the following device in a Linux system.  I am still using
a G4 Mac.  I don't have a Mac that uses SATA, so I have not tried this
in the machine you specify.  But, I would be surprised if it does not
work, and it is pretty inexpensive.
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140268699076
The only problem I can imagince is whether there is room for this
adapter to stick out the back of the IDE drive.  Like I said above, I
don't have a G5, and don't know their internals.  I have seen another
model that fit differently and does not need as much clearance in the
back.  If you don't think this will work, I'll try to track the other
one down.  A quick look this morning did not turn it up.
  I have no tie to this seller, other than that I have bought from them
before.
Good luck,
Ralph

On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 12:00 -0500, Eric Volker wrote:
> Is there anyway to shoehorn an old fashioned PATA/EIDE drive into a  
> Powermac G5? ... but I was hoping I could  
> avoid that with some kind of internal adapter. Does anyone know of  
> such a thing that will fit inside of a G5 and work reliably?



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Re: Reconstituting iTunes after problems on G5 with Leopard upgrade.

[Brian Durant]

Hi Bruce,

OK, the prefs look fine, but I seem to have lost a plug-in (iWOW).


Brian

On 9/22/08, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> On Sep 22, 2008, at 1:30 AM, Brian Durant wrote:
>
> > I use an external HD for my main iTunes library.
>
> If you did an archive&reinstall, those preferences should have
> migrated right along with your user profile. IAC, fire up iTunes and
> specify the library location in the prefs.
>
>
> --
> Bruce Johnson
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Re: Parallel ATA drive in a PM G5?

[Eric Volker]

Thanks, Ralph, but I don't think that adapter will work in a G5.  
While Googling around for a fix, I came across this 'hack' on  
xlr8yourmac.com. I think this will work as a partial solution for me,  
and the photos demonstrate just how tight the fit is for the drives  
in a G5:

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G5/G5_PATA_drives/index.html

My only concern with this would be the extra cabling between master  
and slave. Does anyone think that would end up causing data  
corruption,  or just a bit of a slowdown?

Thanks,

Eric

On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Ralph wrote:

>
> Howdy,
>   I have used the following device in a Linux system.  I am still  
> using
> a G4 Mac.  I don't have a Mac that uses SATA, so I have not tried this
> in the machine you specify.  But, I would be surprised if it does not
> work, and it is pretty inexpensive.
>   http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140268699076
> The only problem I can imagince is whether there is room for this
> adapter to stick out the back of the IDE drive.  Like I said above, I
> don't have a G5, and don't know their internals.  I have seen another
> model that fit differently and does not need as much clearance in the
> back.  If you don't think this will work, I'll try to track the other
> one down.  A quick look this morning did not turn it up.
>   I have no tie to this seller, other than that I have bought from  
> them
> before.
> Good luck,
> Ralph
>
> On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 12:00 -0500, Eric Volker wrote:
>> Is there anyway to shoehorn an old fashioned PATA/EIDE drive into a
>> Powermac G5? ... but I was hoping I could
>> avoid that with some kind of internal adapter. Does anyone know of
>> such a thing that will fit inside of a G5 and work reliably?
>
>
>
> >


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Larger drives and slowdowns?

[diane]

A few weeks ago we talked about larger drives and SATA cards in my G4 
1.42DP, 2gb ram

I have a 120gb in there now and was thinking about 2 500's (to mirror 
or something). I was going to go to SATA for upwards compatibility.

The question is, just how much will this slow the machine down?

My husband is trying to convince me to go to a shared NAS for the two 
of us. Not that I disagree in general especially with backups, but I 
do kinda like having the stuff I use a lot on my internal drive. I 
routinely share files between my tower and iBook anyway which is sort 
of a pain.

Thanks,

Diane

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Re: Parallel ATA drive in a PM G5?

[LinuxMercedes]

So long as the entire IDE cable is under 18 inches, you should be
good, IIRC.  Some controllers will have problems with cables longer
than 18 inches, probably due to signal crosstalk, etc.  Just make sure
to buy a high-quality cable, as I remember there being some problems
with cheap round cables.

--Nathan

On Sep 22, 12:54 pm, Eric Volker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, Ralph, but I don't think that adapter will work in a G5.  
> While Googling around for a fix, I came across this 'hack' on  
> xlr8yourmac.com. I think this will work as a partial solution for me,  
> and the photos demonstrate just how tight the fit is for the drives  
> in a G5:
>
> http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G5/G5_PATA_drives/index.html
>
> My only concern with this would be the extra cabling between master  
> and slave. Does anyone think that would end up causing data  
> corruption,  or just a bit of a slowdown?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
> On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Ralph wrote:
>
>
>
> > Howdy,
> >   I have used the following device in a Linux system.  I am still  
> > using
> > a G4 Mac.  I don't have a Mac that uses SATA, so I have not tried this
> > in the machine you specify.  But, I would be surprised if it does not
> > work, and it is pretty inexpensive.
> >  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140268699076
> > The only problem I can imagince is whether there is room for this
> > adapter to stick out the back of the IDE drive.  Like I said above, I
> > don't have a G5, and don't know their internals.  I have seen another
> > model that fit differently and does not need as much clearance in the
> > back.  If you don't think this will work, I'll try to track the other
> > one down.  A quick look this morning did not turn it up.
> >   I have no tie to this seller, other than that I have bought from  
> > them
> > before.
> > Good luck,
> > Ralph
>
> > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 12:00 -0500, Eric Volker wrote:
> >> Is there anyway to shoehorn an old fashioned PATA/EIDE drive into a
> >> Powermac G5? ... but I was hoping I could
> >> avoid that with some kind of internal adapter. Does anyone know of
> >> such a thing that will fit inside of a G5 and work reliably?
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Re: extend the range of my airport extreme to express?

[LinuxMercedes]

I seem to remember that one G device will drop the whole network to G,
unless you have a fancy expensive dual-antenna wireless router, which
can offer both 2.4 Ghz (a, b, and g) speeds and 5 Ghz (n) speeds.

That being said, I'd advise Jeff to first check that the power on his
Airport is at its highest setting (on mine I had to manually move it
up from 3, the stock position, to 10).  If that doesn't reach, then
try the Airport express (and see some of the other posts for potential
problems with that).  In theory it will work, it just depends on the
range of the wireless network.

Your mom should be able to connect via Ethernet to the Express and not
drop the network to G so long as she is not wirelessly connected as
well (i.e. turn the Powerbook's airport off).

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> doubles the effective range of my wireless router. Just plug it in,
> push the "auto configure" button, and it works. I don't know if there
> is an "N" version yet It's my understanding that any one "G"
> device on a network will drop the whole network speed to G.
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Re: Parallel ATA drive in a PM G5?

[Ralph]

Howdy,
  That should work.  The only time you really notice a slowdown is when
you are doing something like ripping CDs.  Then, you are pushing data to
both devices on the same IDE channel.  Make sure you set the jumpers on
the drives so that the hard drive is master and the optical drive sis
slave(or vice versa).  Apple had a bad IDE chip on early B&W that would
corrupt if you put two IDE devices on the same channel, but those
defective chips were long gone when the G5 was made.  Apple would have
had to do something intentional to cause a similar problem on the G5.
Good day,
Ralph

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> Thanks, Ralph, but I don't think that adapter will work in a G5.  
> While Googling around for a fix, I came across this 'hack' on  
> xlr8yourmac.com. I think this will work as a partial solution for me,  
> and the photos demonstrate just how tight the fit is for the drives  
> in a G5:
> 
> http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G5/G5_PATA_drives/index.html
> 



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Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in startup disk control panel.

[Charles Davis]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Simon Royal wrote:

>
> Hi.
>
> I have never unplugged any peripherals while upgrading any of my  
> Macs on Panther, Tiger or Leopard and never had a problem with any  
> updates or installations.
>
> Simon
>
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>
>
And as this thread has just shown, That experience is NOT the  
definitive case!

;-)

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Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in startup disk control panel.

[Simon Royal]

Chuck

Not critising, but from someone who has owned over 15 Macs running OSX and 
worked on hundreds, just offering my experience.

The only problem I had was on an iBook G3, updating from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11 via 
Software Update. It just wouldn't complete, had to download it from Apple site 
and then it worked.

Same update worked fine on other Macs via Software Update.

Simon

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Date: 22/09/2008 20:39



On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Simon Royal wrote:

>
> Hi.
>
> I have never unplugged any peripherals while upgrading any of my  
> Macs on Panther, Tiger or Leopard and never had a problem with any  
> updates or installations.
>
> Simon
>
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>
>
And as this thread has just shown, That experience is NOT the  
definitive case!

;-)

Chuck D.







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Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in startup disk control panel.

[Charles Davis]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote:

>
> Chuck
>
> Not critising, but from someone who has owned over 15 Macs running  
> OSX and worked on hundreds, just offering my experience.
>
> The only problem I had was on an iBook G3, updating from 10.4.10 to  
> 10.4.11 via Software Update. It just wouldn't complete, had to  
> download it from Apple site and then it worked.
>
> Same update worked fine on other Macs via Software Update.
>
> Simon
>
So you DID have one problem   Duh!!!

Apple , and others, make sweeping "generalized statements", that when  
followed eliminate the possibility of certain types of problems   
Your statement fits a 'Reduced Universe' of possibilities, and thus  
is NOT a valid rebuttal to Apple's intent.
That you didn't have many problems is great for you, but as advice  
for EVERYONE else, is "Bad Advice".

Chuck D.

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> -original message-
> Subject: Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in  
> startup disk control  panel.
> From: Charles Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 22/09/2008 20:39
>
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Simon Royal wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I have never unplugged any peripherals while upgrading any of my
>> Macs on Panther, Tiger or Leopard and never had a problem with any
>> updates or installations.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71)
>>
>>
> And as this thread has just shown, That experience is NOT the
> definitive case!
>
> ;-)
>
> Chuck D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in startup disk control panel.

[Simon Royal]

Chuck

Well one, although technically it wasn't mine I was replacing a hard drive and 
reinstalling OSX for a mate. It was someone elses but the problem happened on 
my watch, so yes I have had one problem.

However, I think the original thread was about removing peripherals and Apples 
vague instructions on updates. My Macs always stay plugged in with all their 
peripherals, but the iBook had nothing plugged in.

Simon

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Subject: Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in startup disk 
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From: Charles Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22/09/2008 21:07



On Sep 22, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote:

>
> Chuck
>
> Not critising, but from someone who has owned over 15 Macs running  
> OSX and worked on hundreds, just offering my experience.
>
> The only problem I had was on an iBook G3, updating from 10.4.10 to  
> 10.4.11 via Software Update. It just wouldn't complete, had to  
> download it from Apple site and then it worked.
>
> Same update worked fine on other Macs via Software Update.
>
> Simon
>
So you DID have one problem   Duh!!!

Apple , and others, make sweeping "generalized statements", that when  
followed eliminate the possibility of certain types of problems   
Your statement fits a 'Reduced Universe' of possibilities, and thus  
is NOT a valid rebuttal to Apple's intent.
That you didn't have many problems is great for you, but as advice  
for EVERYONE else, is "Bad Advice".

Chuck D.

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>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: (Solved) New 10.5.5 system on G5 doesn't show in  
> startup disk control  panel.
> From: Charles Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 22/09/2008 20:39
>
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Simon Royal wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I have never unplugged any peripherals while upgrading any of my
>> Macs on Panther, Tiger or Leopard and never had a problem with any
>> updates or installations.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71)
>>
>>
> And as this thread has just shown, That experience is NOT the
> definitive case!
>
> ;-)
>
> Chuck D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>






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Re: extend the range of my airport extreme to express?

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:12 PM, LinuxMercedes wrote:

>
> I seem to remember that one G device will drop the whole network to G,
> unless you have a fancy expensive dual-antenna wireless router, which
> can offer both 2.4 Ghz (a, b, and g) speeds and 5 Ghz (n) speeds.
>
> That being said, I'd advise Jeff to first check that the power on his
> Airport is at its highest setting (on mine I had to manually move it
> up from 3, the stock position, to 10).

How do I do this? (change power setting?) Jeff


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Daisy Chain Firewire & iPod

[Simon Royal]

Hi

I have recently swapped most of my external USB drives for Firewire ones, 
as I only ever had my iPod plugged in via firewire, leaving a spare 
firewire port, meanwhile my USB ports and hubs were brimming.

So I hooked up my iPod through my external firewire DVD writer. Great! 
apart from one oddity.

Sit the iPod on the dock and it powers up and charges but wouldn't mount. 
So I switched on the firewire DVD writer and lo and behold the iPod showed 
it's 'do not disconnect' and then mounted and iTunes kicked into life.

So what would happen if I turned off my DVD writer while the iPod was 
mounted? Would it disconnect the iPod too. Just a bit confused as to why it 
would power the iPod even if the DVD writer is off but only mount if it is 
on.

Seems daisy chaining has its drawbacks.

Simon

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Beige G3 hd formating

[Stro]

Greetings,
  I have a beige g3 desktop that I am trying to put a larger hard
drive in.  I can get the g3 to see the hd when I start up with the os9
cd and it formats.  No errors, everything normal.  OS 9 will install,
but when I try to restart all I get is a blank screen.  The startup
chime plays, but nothing on the screen.  The monitor works when I
start up from the cd.  Any suggestions.

Thanks,
Lee

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Re: Beige G3 hd formating

[Dan A. Currie]

Stro wrote:
> Greetings,
>   I have a beige g3 desktop that I am trying to put a larger hard
> drive in.  I can get the g3 to see the hd when I start up with the os9
> cd and it formats.  No errors, everything normal.  OS 9 will install,
> but when I try to restart all I get is a blank screen.  The startup
> chime plays, but nothing on the screen.  The monitor works when I
> start up from the cd.  Any suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Lee
>
>   
Exactly how large is the new drive? You might want to partition it and 
make the 1st partition about 10GB and divide the test. Mine has HD, 
Documents, Utilities and Storage.

Dan Currie

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Re: Beige G3 hd formating

[Stro]

On Sep 22, 5:56 pm, "Dan A. Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stro wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >   I have a beige g3 desktop that I am trying to put a larger hard
> > drive in.  I can get the g3 to see the hd when I start up with the os9
> > cd and it formats.  No errors, everything normal.  OS 9 will install,
> > but when I try to restart all I get is a blank screen.  The startup
> > chime plays, but nothing on the screen.  The monitor works when I
> > start up from the cd.  Any suggestions.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Lee
>
> Exactly how large is the new drive? You might want to partition it and
> make the 1st partition about 10GB and divide the test. Mine has HD,
> Documents, Utilities and Storage.
>
> Dan Currie

It is a 40gb hd.  It has two partitions, one is 7.5gb.

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Re: Daisy Chain Firewire & iPod

[Charles Davis]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Simon Royal wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> I have recently swapped most of my external USB drives for Firewire  
> ones,
> as I only ever had my iPod plugged in via firewire, leaving a spare
> firewire port, meanwhile my USB ports and hubs were brimming.
>
> So I hooked up my iPod through my external firewire DVD writer. Great!
> apart from one oddity.
>
> Sit the iPod on the dock and it powers up and charges but wouldn't  
> mount.
> So I switched on the firewire DVD writer

???  I gather that the DVD unit has an external (I.E. Wall Wart)  
power supply.
Just how are you 'switching on' the DVD unit? Is there a switch on  
the DVD?

> and lo and behold the iPod showed
> it's 'do not disconnect' and then mounted and iTunes kicked into life.
>
> So what would happen if I turned off my DVD writer while the iPod was
> mounted? Would it disconnect the iPod too.

That would be my expectation given your description so far.

> Just a bit confused as to why it
> would power the iPod even if the DVD writer is off but only mount  
> if it is
> on.
>
> Seems daisy chaining has its drawbacks.
>
Another example of deficient documentation, requiring the User (you)  
to 'learn by experimentation'.  ;-)
Fortunately, I haven't yet run into any questionable problems using  
FireWire.

Chuck D.

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Re: Beige G3 hd formating

[Charles Davis]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Stro wrote:

>
>
>
> On Sep 22, 5:56 pm, "Dan A. Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Stro wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>   I have a beige g3 desktop that I am trying to put a larger hard
>>> drive in.  I can get the g3 to see the hd when I start up with  
>>> the os9
>>> cd and it formats.  No errors, everything normal.  OS 9 will  
>>> install,
>>> but when I try to restart all I get is a blank screen.  The startup
>>> chime plays, but nothing on the screen.  The monitor works when I
>>> start up from the cd.  Any suggestions.
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lee
>>
>> Exactly how large is the new drive? You might want to partition it  
>> and
>> make the 1st partition about 10GB and divide the test. Mine has HD,
>> Documents, Utilities and Storage.
>>
>> Dan Currie
>
> It is a 40gb hd.  It has two partitions, one is 7.5gb.
>
> Lee
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40 GB isn't getting close to any size limitation problems.
Did you do the formatting using the OS9 install media?
Were the OS9 drivers installed?

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Re: Daisy Chain Firewire & iPod

[Simon Royal]

Chuck

Yes it is actually a Pioneer 112D in a 5.25" external firewire case with its 
own 'walled' power supply and on and off switch on the case.

With the iPod hooked up and the writer switched on at the wall and not the 
unit, the iPod will charge and not mount.

With the iPod hooked up and the writer on at wall and on at unit then the iPod 
will mount and work fine.

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Subject: Re: Daisy Chain Firewire & iPod
From: Charles Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23/09/2008 00:35



On Sep 22, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Simon Royal wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> I have recently swapped most of my external USB drives for Firewire  
> ones,
> as I only ever had my iPod plugged in via firewire, leaving a spare
> firewire port, meanwhile my USB ports and hubs were brimming.
>
> So I hooked up my iPod through my external firewire DVD writer. Great!
> apart from one oddity.
>
> Sit the iPod on the dock and it powers up and charges but wouldn't  
> mount.
> So I switched on the firewire DVD writer

???  I gather that the DVD unit has an external (I.E. Wall Wart)  
power supply.
Just how are you 'switching on' the DVD unit? Is there a switch on  
the DVD?

> and lo and behold the iPod showed
> it's 'do not disconnect' and then mounted and iTunes kicked into life.
>
> So what would happen if I turned off my DVD writer while the iPod was
> mounted? Would it disconnect the iPod too.

That would be my expectation given your description so far.

> Just a bit confused as to why it
> would power the iPod even if the DVD writer is off but only mount  
> if it is
> on.
>
> Seems daisy chaining has its drawbacks.
>
Another example of deficient documentation, requiring the User (you)  
to 'learn by experimentation'.  ;-)
Fortunately, I haven't yet run into any questionable problems using  
FireWire.

Chuck D.

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Re: Daisy Chain Firewire & iPod

[Charles Davis]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Simon Royal wrote:

>
> Chuck
>
> Yes it is actually a Pioneer 112D in a 5.25" external firewire case  
> with its own 'walled' power supply and on and off switch on the case.
>
> With the iPod hooked up and the writer switched on at the wall and  
> not the unit, the iPod will charge and not mount.
>
> With the iPod hooked up and the writer on at wall and on at unit  
> then the iPod will mount and work fine.
>
> Simon
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>
O.K  > SWAG  [Scientific WildA** Guess], based on 35+ years of  
fiddling with Micro Computers.

The Wall wart being on, is powering the External case internal power  
connections, hence the power availability for the iPod.
The Case switch is turning on/off the DVD drive itself and the  
interface circuitry, hence the ability for the computer to then 'see'  
the iPod.

It may not be a correct guess, but it does fit what's been describe,  
and is thus useful for future planning, unless other quirks show up.

[Probably just what you have already concluded, but it is sometimes  
helpful to have a second opinion.]

Chuck D.

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WordPress versus Movable Type

[RediG3-5]

I've upgraded my server service and they're recommending WordPress.
Others suggest Movable Type.
I'm interested in any experiential comments and comparisons.

If this is two far off topic,
please respond off list.

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Re: WordPress versus Movable Type

[Charles Davis]

On Sep 22, 2008, at 8:04 PM, RediG3-5 wrote:

>
> I've upgraded my server service and they're recommending WordPress.
> Others suggest Movable Type.
> I'm interested in any experiential comments and comparisons.
>
> If this is two far off topic,
> please respond off list.
>
> Thank you,
> Cliff

Can't really figure a topic  ---  
Might be interesting if I could.

Chuck D.

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Re: Beige G3 hd formating

[Dan A. Currie]

Charles Davis wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Stro wrote:
>
>   
>>
>> On Sep 22, 5:56 pm, "Dan A. Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Stro wrote:
>>>   
 Greetings,
   I have a beige g3 desktop that I am trying to put a larger hard
 drive in.  I can get the g3 to see the hd when I start up with  
 the os9
 cd and it formats.  No errors, everything normal.  OS 9 will  
 install,
 but when I try to restart all I get is a blank screen.  The startup
 chime plays, but nothing on the screen.  The monitor works when I
 start up from the cd.  Any suggestions.
 
 Thanks,
 Lee
 
>>> Exactly how large is the new drive? You might want to partition it  
>>> and
>>> make the 1st partition about 10GB and divide the test. Mine has HD,
>>> Documents, Utilities and Storage.
>>>
>>> Dan Currie
>>>   
>> It is a 40gb hd.  It has two partitions, one is 7.5gb.
>>
>> Lee
>> --~--~-~--~~
>> 
> 40 GB isn't getting close to any size limitation problems.
> Did you do the formatting using the OS9 install media?
> Were the OS9 drivers installed?
>
> Chuck D.
>
>   
I agree about the size but you might want to reformat for possible OSX 
installation at a later date. I think the 1st partition has to be 
greater than 9GB.

Recheck your partitioning and installation, possibly do a Clean Install 
and try again. BTW wat is your G3?

Dan

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Re: Beige G3 hd formating

[Stro]

On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, "Dan A. Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charles Davis wrote:
> > On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Stro wrote:
>
> >> On Sep 22, 5:56 pm, "Dan A. Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>> Stro wrote:
>
>  Greetings,
>    I have a beige g3 desktop that I am trying to put a larger hard
>  drive in.  I can get the g3 to see the hd when I start up with
>  the os9
>  cd and it formats.  No errors, everything normal.  OS 9 will
>  install,
>  but when I try to restart all I get is a blank screen.  The startup
>  chime plays, but nothing on the screen.  The monitor works when I
>  start up from the cd.  Any suggestions.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Lee
>
> >>> Exactly how large is the new drive? You might want to partition it
> >>> and
> >>> make the 1st partition about 10GB and divide the test. Mine has HD,
> >>> Documents, Utilities and Storage.
>
> >>> Dan Currie
>
> >> It is a 40gb hd.  It has two partitions, one is 7.5gb.
>
> >> Lee
> >> --~--~-~--~~
>
> > 40 GB isn't getting close to any size limitation problems.
> > Did you do the formatting using the OS9 install media?
> > Were the OS9 drivers installed?
>
> > Chuck D.
>
> I agree about the size but you might want to reformat for possible OSX
> installation at a later date. I think the 1st partition has to be
> greater than 9GB.
>
> Recheck your partitioning and installation, possibly do a Clean Install
> and try again. BTW wat is your G3?
>
> Dan

I used the OS 9.2.1 cd to format and to do the install.  Everything
proceeded normally during the install.  But no start from the hd.

BTW Dan, to install OSX, the 1st partition has to be less than 8GB.

And the machine is a beige g3, 266 mhz processor, 768mb ram.
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Re: Beige G3 hd formating

[Stro]

On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, "Dan A. Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charles Davis wrote:
> > On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Stro wrote:
>
> >> On Sep 22, 5:56 pm, "Dan A. Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>> Stro wrote:
>
>  Greetings,
>    I have a beige g3 desktop that I am trying to put a larger hard
>  drive in.  I can get the g3 to see the hd when I start up with
>  the os9
>  cd and it formats.  No errors, everything normal.  OS 9 will
>  install,
>  but when I try to restart all I get is a blank screen.  The startup
>  chime plays, but nothing on the screen.  The monitor works when I
>  start up from the cd.  Any suggestions.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Lee
>
> >>> Exactly how large is the new drive? You might want to partition it
> >>> and
> >>> make the 1st partition about 10GB and divide the test. Mine has HD,
> >>> Documents, Utilities and Storage.
>
> >>> Dan Currie
>
> >> It is a 40gb hd.  It has two partitions, one is 7.5gb.
>
> >> Lee
> >> --~--~-~--~~
>
> > 40 GB isn't getting close to any size limitation problems.
> > Did you do the formatting using the OS9 install media?
> > Were the OS9 drivers installed?
>
> > Chuck D.
>
> I agree about the size but you might want to reformat for possible OSX
> installation at a later date. I think the 1st partition has to be
> greater than 9GB.
>
> Recheck your partitioning and installation, possibly do a Clean Install
> and try again. BTW wat is your G3?
>
> Dan

I used the OS 9.2.1 cd to format and to do the install.  Everything
proceeded normally during the install.  But no start from the hd.

BTW Dan, to install OSX, the 1st partition has to be less than 8GB.

And the machine is a beige g3, 266 mhz processor, 768mb ram.
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Re: G5 single suddenly starts rejecting DVD's.

[insightinmind]

On Sep 17, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

>
>
> On Sep 17, 2008, at 11:26 AM, Brian Durant wrote:
>
>>
>> Does any DVD drive work these days or are there only certain drives
>> that are
>> supported?
>
> OWC sells a bare 20x Pioneer DL DVD R/RW for $31
>
> 
>

Is this still a "best choice" also for a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz?

My QSs DVD drive is acting flaky ... after cleaning as well ... 
probably needs replacing.

>
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Re: Beige G3 hd formating

[Stro]

On Sep 22, 7:25 pm, Stro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, "Dan A. Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Charles Davis wrote:
> > > On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Stro wrote:
>
> > >> On Sep 22, 5:56 pm, "Dan A. Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >>> Stro wrote:
>
> >  Greetings,
> >    I have a beige g3 desktop that I am trying to put a larger hard
> >  drive in.  I can get the g3 to see the hd when I start up with
> >  the os9
> >  cd and it formats.  No errors, everything normal.  OS 9 will
> >  install,
> >  but when I try to restart all I get is a blank screen.  The startup
> >  chime plays, but nothing on the screen.  The monitor works when I
> >  start up from the cd.  Any suggestions.
>
> >  Thanks,
> >  Lee
>
> > >>> Exactly how large is the new drive? You might want to partition it
> > >>> and
> > >>> make the 1st partition about 10GB and divide the test. Mine has HD,
> > >>> Documents, Utilities and Storage.
>
> > >>> Dan Currie
>
> > >> It is a 40gb hd.  It has two partitions, one is 7.5gb.
>
> > >> Lee
> > >> --~--~-~--~~
>
> > > 40 GB isn't getting close to any size limitation problems.
> > > Did you do the formatting using the OS9 install media?
> > > Were the OS9 drivers installed?
>
> > > Chuck D.
>
> > I agree about the size but you might want to reformat for possible OSX
> > installation at a later date. I think the 1st partition has to be
> > greater than 9GB.
>
> > Recheck your partitioning and installation, possibly do a Clean Install
> > and try again. BTW wat is your G3?
>
> > Dan
>
> I used the OS 9.2.1 cd to format and to do the install.  Everything
> proceeded normally during the install.  But no start from the hd.
>
> BTW Dan, to install OSX, the 1st partition has to be less than 8GB.
>
> And the machine is a beige g3, 266 mhz processor, 768mb ram.

Okay, an update.  I unplugged the hd, plugged it back in and zapped
the pram.  It started up and let me know the battery was dead (The
date was reset).  I now wonder if my problem could be a bad battery.
Guess I will have to get one and see.

Lee
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Another RAM Question

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Another RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

I found another stick of RAM in a PC
This is on the sticker

G0162.1 5000236
VT QC 53251

A Google search turns up a similar number on some RAM but not this exact one.
What do I have here?

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learning about hard drives on a G4 sawtooth

[MichaelP]

 I'm learning my way around OS 10.3.9 on a G4 sawtooth.
It came working OK with a single Maxtor 30GB drive
and I screwed up the system as I tried out various things.  

I picked up a similar drive,__ drive B,-- got its contents corectly 
updated and 
working. and for the moment it's sitting in the second bay and operating 
as an independent hard drive should.

I initialized the orig drive -drive A still sitting in the main drive 
position -- did my thing to get both OS 9.2 and 10.39 in place -- but it's 
not yet working properly.

I havn't made up my mind wether to keep A and B working separately. 
perhaps wih A perhaps operating only on OS 9.2 , or whether to combine A 
and B as master/slave with appropriate jumper settings. So what might 
those settings be ? I know that I can get hold of a 120GB drive or even 
bigger, but I havn't got total mastery of how to get a single drive going 
with the update disks I have around beginning with OS 8 and OS 9.1 etc.
(Point being that I don't own a straight install CD for the G4)

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Backups, Intent and practice, missing info.

[Charles Davis]

On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Al Poulin wrote:
>
snip

> I agree, but I would like to see more discussion here of Time Machine
> and Time Capsule.  It seems that this technology is not yet fail-
> safe.

There have been recently, comments about "Time Machine" problems  
[various]. I.E it's NOT an infallible fix for the Backup problem.

> Time Machine may be more robust when hardwired than with Time
> Capsule; is this the thrust of the experience to date?
>
Time Capsule = wireless connection??

>   And a clone
> via Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper is more robust than what you get
> with Time Machine; true?

That is my thinking.
>
> As for RAID 0, I see:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
> saying:  "RAID 0 (striped disks) distributes data across several disks
> in a way which gives improved speed and full capacity, but all data on
> all disks will be lost if any one disk fails."
>
I.E. Productivity (speed) improvements, but no 'Backup' advantage.

> So, for back up purposes, I see Time Machine/Time Capsule as being
> handy for recovering user files for whatever reason, especially if bad
> things happen between cloning events.

It seems to be a "Whole Machine", Version Control system -- Being  
touted as a form of 'Backup' which it is NOT.

>   But the safest back up is a
> clone to an external hard drive that is disconnected when not actually
> cloning or recovering.
>
> More discussion please?
>
> Al Poulin

"Backup" is  to allow 'Disaster Recovery'.

Type of disaster Recovery Method

Power disconnect Restore Power, re- 
boot.   IF the software you are using is reasonably designed  
--No Problems.

Munged data file   Retrieve data from previous  
copy [re entering data, as necessary to bring up to date].
  Time Machine,  
retrieve previous copy [Where Time Machine works well].

HD crashReplace HD, restore from  
Time Machine.  Or
  Replace HD,  
restore from System Backup

MB died  Replace MB, Hopefully,  
that's all that is needed.

These are all Single Event failures. Think about, Fire Damage,  
Vandalism, Etc.
When there are 'Multiple Failure Events' at the same time, then  
things get interesting.

In another Life, when asked about "Backup" strategies, my  
recommendations were ---

[This was back in the days of floppies]

Full System Backup, whenever there was a major change in software, or  
every 6 months, whichever occurred sooner.

DATA, Backup the DATA files from an application as often as needed to  
let you feel comfortable about the effort needed to 'get back to  
normal'.

For EACH of these 'Backup Sets', System & Data, there should be a  
MINIMUM of 3 complete sets of Floppies [Data Cartridges, CDs, what  
ever method used]
These 'Sets' being rotated, re-using [overwriting the oldest].
[When using 'Data Cartridges', do NOT count additional entries on the  
same cartridge as separate sets. Use another cartridge.]

** MISSING INFO.  
***
Storage of the 'Backup Data Set' --- Needs to be somewhere OTHER than  
with/ beside/ next to the 'backed up' system. I.E. at work, take them  
home for storage, at home, borrow space for a storage box in the  
Brother-in-law's garage, etc. --- Someplace where a 'local' disaster  
won't destroy your "way back to 'normal'". Remember, all this is the  
Insurance Premium against disaster.
 


And yes I have fought with 100+ sets of 'backup floppies'. [VERY time  
consuming, and irritating. BUT that was the technology available at  
the time.]

You may be thinking 3 sets of everything?   That's overkill --- IF  
all goes well, and you don't ever run into any need, then yes, it is  
'overkill'.

But consider this 'not too farfetched scenario'

You have a problem!
Grab the most recent 'Backup', and start restoring  Glitch is  
still there! research problem, most recent 'backup' is 'foobar'.

Simple, get the next one back --- Still grinched!!!--- more research  
--- Hardware problems [ Floppy drive read head scratching the floppy,  
Data Cartridge Drive "Eating" the tapes]

Only one more 'Backup' left to try. At this point, my advice  
would be to find another system (beg, borrow, friend, foe, however  
you do it) and make a couple of copies of all of the media (Floppy,  
Data Cartridge, whatever) that that last 'Backup' copy resides on.  
Otherwise, you stand the chance of destroying any possibility of  
recovery.

[That will never be the case if you are using 'Time Machine', Right?  
 Right, as long as there are NO PROBLEMS with 'Time  
Machine' {Different Basket, still only

Re: extend the range of my airport extreme to express?

[LinuxMercedes]

I don't have an Airport Extreme (I have an el-cheapo router =]), but,
according to the Airport Extreme user's manual, the setting probably
is in the Manual Setup thingy (Base Station menu -> Manual Setup).

Good Luck!
Nathan

On Sep 22, 4:09 pm, Jeffrey Engle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:12 PM, LinuxMercedes wrote:
>
>
>
> > I seem to remember that one G device will drop the whole network to G,
> > unless you have a fancy expensive dual-antenna wireless router, which
> > can offer both 2.4 Ghz (a, b, and g) speeds and 5 Ghz (n) speeds.
>
> > That being said, I'd advise Jeff to first check that the power on his
> > Airport is at its highest setting (on mine I had to manually move it
> > up from 3, the stock position, to 10).
>
> How do I do this? (change power setting?) Jeff
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