Re: Backups? !!!
Perfomance problems, other than that... i tried small restores... i never tried full restore... There are other people probably here might have deeper experiences... I was generally lost it, rescue it type of guy until last disaster of mine 2009/11/10 Dan dantear...@gmail.com At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB External nowadays... Have you had any problems with Time Machine? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
On Nov 9, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Yeah, part of my point. Little content other than a push toward favored solution sellers. I did mention my media studies, right? Had the article been thick with logic and reasoning I would have thought the intent really was to give users a heads up for recovery archiving. I do not blame you. This is what passes on the net for serious journalism these days. Thinly veiled sales pitches. Only one step up from hey , Senor, you want to see pictures of my seester? For someone so steeped in media studies you seem rather monumentally unaware of who is paying the bills. You didn't pay to read that article, did you? And secondly, no this article is not what passes for serious journalism these days. Stuff like this is what passes for serious journalism these days: http://www.propublica.org/ http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ (who were the folks who helped break the US Attorney firings scandal by taking the massive 'Friday Afternoon Taking out the Trash' document dumps from the Justice Department and the White House, and utilizing the power of the internet, had all their readers grab a page or two and go through it. Within 48 hours after the DOJ dumped several thousand documents in a Friday afternoon...which mainstream media would never have been able to even scratch, they'd identified the 'smoking gun' documents and had outlined the scandal: that US Attorneys, who are statutorily removed from political considerations, were under heavy pressure from the political side of the White House to pursue politically-linked prosecutions aimed at the upcoming 2006 elections. Those that resisted, like David Iglesisas, were fired. Distributed cooperative muckrakingUpton Sinclair would have been proud, in many ways.) McClatchy's series on the Goldman-Sachs and the Wall Street Scandal http://www.mcclatchydc.com/goldman/ And their scathing investigation of the credit ratings agency Moody's http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/77244.html MacWorld, hell this is all that Macworld EVER HAS BEEN, a conduit for advertising. Back in the day they had decent articles, but they've gotten thinner and thinner, like all magazines thee days; who can compete with free content online? You want less advertising, and better journalism? Start paying for the content. You can't have it both ways. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
At 10:17 PM -0500 11/9/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: [html removed] On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Dan wrote: huh? It's just a macworld article. That's it. Not even a very deep one. Yeah, part of my point. Little content other than a push toward favored solution sellers. The article points out the basic blunders. The included links are to product review articles. I really don't see a problem with that. Had the article been thick with logic and reasoning then its point would have been totally lost, because the people that most need to do backups wouldn't have bothered to read it. IMO, the article is exactly on point and does exactly what it should do. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB External nowadays... Have you had any problems with Time Machine? I've been running it since I updated to 10.5 and haven't hand more than minor issues. Occasionally I'd get the error that the media was read-only; unmounting, unplugging, then remounting my (USB-based) Time Machine volume would fix it; I think it's a bit of flakiness in the WD MyBook case. I've done or witnesses two complete restores form TM, and both proceeded flawlessly. The main issue was TM just bogging things down every hour on the hour, I reset it to run every 6 hours and life's been a lot smoother since then: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=200710291721156 I also have the advantage of being able to exclude some of the most volatile directories, like ~/Library/Mail because we run an IMAP server, my mail doesn't live on my system, and I excluded the cache directories. I don't know if TM does that automatically, but I figured an explicit exclusion couldn't hurt. I also keep it from backing up my Virtual Machine directory (for Fusion); I'll make a manual copy of the VM file when Fusion isn't when I make major changes to it, but ther'es no need to back up a 20 or 30 gb file every day. If you have scratch directories for Photoshop and the like, exclude those as well. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G5 won't sleep?
2.3ghz early 2005 G5 tower when I go up to the apple menu and select sleep , the monitor goes to sleep, hard drives spin down.. but the light refuses to pulse... Is there a way to return the mother/logic board back to factory defaults? I've tried PRAM reset, all the settings in energy saver, pulling RAM modules, pci cards, and booted into a new user to no avail. any ideas? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G5 won't sleep?
On 10 Nov 2009, at 16:20, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: 2.3ghz early 2005 G5 tower when I go up to the apple menu and select sleep , the monitor goes to sleep, hard drives spin down.. but the light refuses to pulse... Is there a way to return the mother/logic board back to factory defaults? I've tried PRAM reset, all the settings in energy saver, pulling RAM modules, pci cards, and booted into a new user to no avail. any ideas? Jeff If it otherwise appears to actually be asleep, it could just be that the little LED that would normally pulse is just knackered? Happened to my G4 PowerBook... Assuming the machine wakes again that is. Or, there's the power manager reset thing, not sure if that only applies to laptops though, and the technique varies between models (usually sone strange key combination on startup). Info should be on the apple knowledgebase thing somewhere. Full of technical terms eh? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DP 1GHZ G4 vs. Single 1.8GHZ G5
It's not so much the processor speed as it is the bus speed. Bus on G5 is wider and will accomodate heavier jobs - otherwise much of a muchness Regards Geoff b On 10 Nov 2009, at 8:45 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Just kinda lookin round and seeing i cud pick a sp1.8 g5 up pretty darn cheap... How would it compare in speed with my dp 1GHZ mdd? -Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
are there any good if not better alternatives for Time Machine? 2009/11/10 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB External nowadays... Have you had any problems with Time Machine? I've been running it since I updated to 10.5 and haven't hand more than minor issues. Occasionally I'd get the error that the media was read-only; unmounting, unplugging, then remounting my (USB-based) Time Machine volume would fix it; I think it's a bit of flakiness in the WD MyBook case. I've done or witnesses two complete restores form TM, and both proceeded flawlessly. The main issue was TM just bogging things down every hour on the hour, I reset it to run every 6 hours and life's been a lot smoother since then: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=200710291721156 I also have the advantage of being able to exclude some of the most volatile directories, like ~/Library/Mail because we run an IMAP server, my mail doesn't live on my system, and I excluded the cache directories. I don't know if TM does that automatically, but I figured an explicit exclusion couldn't hurt. I also keep it from backing up my Virtual Machine directory (for Fusion); I'll make a manual copy of the VM file when Fusion isn't when I make major changes to it, but ther'es no need to back up a 20 or 30 gb file every day. If you have scratch directories for Photoshop and the like, exclude those as well. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Baha Ata wrote: are there any good if not better alternatives for Time Machine? better is subjective, IMO. Time Machine makes it very easy to recover accidentally deleted files and roll back changes to files. It is absolutely dead simple to set up and use. It's main disadvantages are that it does not produce a bootable backup, although it can be used as a total restore. It is also difficult to set up with an off/on site rotation of backups. Carbon Copy Cloner (and the very similar Super Duper) makes it very easy to recover form a failed HDD: just boot from your backup. These solutions are far less adept at the kind of 'go back three versions of my resume' kind of stuff that Time Machine makes so easy. However, CCC makes having rotating sets of backup media a snap. The hard drive manufacturer's are gonna love me for this, but using both is truly the ideal solution. Time Machine for restore-in-place and version access, and CCC for the backup backup, a full bootable backup, with multiple sets, one off- site at all times. This means a large drive for TM, then multiple drives for CCC to populate. Then there's the 'roll-yer-own' Most of what CCC and TM do, and more, can be accomplished with command-line scripts. rsync will let you synch changed files to a volume attached locally, to the local file server, or to a machine halfway around the world. Proper attention to the normally hidden bits of OSX make it simple to create a bootable volume. Beyond this are real tape backup systems and the like, but those are for people with terabytes to back up. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G5 won't sleep?
Load windows and watch your mac sleep.. ... seriously though check yr frmware ver. and also reset the pmu switch on the mobo. if no response perhaps you have a Mac like my G4 - MDD which CANNOT sleep or Boot sys 9. Rgds G On 10 Nov 2009, at 6:20 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: 2.3ghz early 2005 G5 tower when I go up to the apple menu and select sleep , the monitor goes to sleep, hard drives spin down.. but the light refuses to pulse... Is there a way to return the mother/logic board back to factory defaults? I've tried PRAM reset, all the settings in energy saver, pulling RAM modules, pci cards, and booted into a new user to no avail. any ideas? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G5 won't sleep?
At 8:20 AM -0800 11/10/2009, Jeffrey Engle wrote: 2.3ghz early 2005 G5 tower when I go up to the apple menu and select sleep , the monitor goes to sleep, hard drives spin down.. but the light refuses to pulse... Is there a way to return the mother/logic board back to factory defaults? I've tried PRAM reset, all the settings in energy saver, pulling RAM modules, pci cards, and booted into a new user to no avail. any ideas? Trash the energy saver/power manager plists, immediately shutdown, manually reset the PMU (hit the CUDA button ONCE), wait about ten seconds to give the PMU time to initialize, boot your computer, reset the Energy Saver settings. If that doesn't work, check the system log. There might be an indication there as to why the sytem won't deep sleep. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
At 6:56 PM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: are there any good if not better alternatives for Time Machine? So far you and Bruce are the only two folx I know that haven't had major TM fooage. By major I mean that TM farks so badly that it's necessary to erase the whole backup volume. That being said AFAIK, there are no products except Time Machine that fully hook into OS X to provide the event driven incremental backups. All other backup products simply do their incremental work (take a snapshot) at the time you schedule (run) them. The two frontrunners these days are CarbonCopyCloner (CCC) and SuperDuper!. My current preference is for CCC. We've had quite a few threads on the LEM lists discussing these products. If you're interested in them, you should search first. Note here that we're talking about *backup* softwares, not *synchronization* products. Sync is very different from backup - it creates a hot copy of the current file, not a time-based backup into which you can dig to recover things. Dropbox uses OS X's event driven mechanism to see file changes that it needs to sync'd up into its cloud (encrypted on Amazon S3). (and then Dropbox blurs the line between sync and backup because it supports versioning - you can go into your account on the Dropbox web site and retrieve previous versions of your files.) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Carbon Copy Cloner (and the very similar Super Duper) makes it very easy to recover form a failed HDD: just boot from your backup. To create a bootable clone copy of an OS X partition I've always just used the confusingly named (to me) restore function in the OS X included Disk Utility app. Always seems to work fine for me in 10.5 and later. (I believe it is supposed to work from 10.3 on, but I've only had direct experience with 10.5 10.6) If you want some compression I guess you could also create a image file of your partition, though I would not expect you to be able to boot from that. But, FWIW, I think I read that you can boot from install media and then restore from a .dmg file. What advantage is there to using these other apps beyond what Apple's Disk Utility would provide? -irrational john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Dan wrote: At 6:56 PM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: are there any good if not better alternatives for Time Machine? So far you and Bruce are the only two folx I know that haven't had major TM fooage. By major I mean that TM farks so badly that it's necessary to erase the whole backup volume. I'm speaking also for at least a half-dozen faculty and staff I've set up with TM. We have have suffered TM failures, but those have been due to actual HDD failures in the external drives. ANY backup system with that kind of failure would require a new drive. I haven't had Time Machine itself actually screw up. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:52 AM, iJohn wrote: What advantage is there to using these other apps beyond what Apple's Disk Utility would provide? CCC lets you schedule copies and maintains an up-to-date version, only copying files that have changed. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Hacking cellphone pics from Motorola flip up cell phone to Powerbook G3 Pismo
I need to download pictures from my cellphone directly to my pismo. It is way too expensive to email them from the cell phone. The phone has a usb port that is used to charge the battery and a port for headphones. I own the phone so it is ok to hack it physically. Has anyone done that? Please help. Dwight Hines St. Augustine, Florida --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hacking cellphone pics from Motorola flip up cell phone to Powerbook G3 Pismo
At 1:18 PM -0500 11/10/2009, Dwight Hines wrote: I need to download pictures from my cellphone directly to my pismo. It is way too expensive to email them from the cell phone. Maybe BitPIM. http://www.bitpim.org/ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't purchase from iTunes Store
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: minG4 Tiger iTunes 9.0.2 Try to purchase a tune and get Error 1008 Google search on problem reveals others with same problem Seeming only fix is revert to vs 8. Surely there s a fix in the making. Did you try this : http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1385978 and this similar answer (with some more info) from an ask Yahoo posting,.: For some users it helped to switch from the Basket to 1-Click-Buy in the iTunes settings. For me it helped to get Administrationrights in my Windwos XP. In all cases the error occured, while the users had some song coupons in their store. As soon as there are no more coupons the error should be gone. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Can't purchase from iTunes Store
minG4 Tiger iTunes 9.0.2 Try to purchase a tune and get Error 1008 Google search on problem reveals others with same problem Seeming only fix is revert to vs 8. Surely there s a fix in the making. So, wondering if others here have experienced similar issues and/or have inside scoop on anticipated fixes, or shall I just regress? Thanks, Cliff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hacking cellphone pics from Motorola flip up cell phone to Powerbook G3 Pismo
I have a motorola flip phone. It has Bluetooth which I use for that purpose. Can you set up Pismo for bluetooth? On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Dwight Hines wrote: I need to download pictures from my cellphone directly to my pismo. It is way too expensive to email them from the cell phone. The phone has a usb port that is used to charge the battery and a port for headphones. I own the phone so it is ok to hack it physically. Has anyone done that? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: SATA card for DVD burner in a MDD
As chance would have it, this is the same Firmtek card that I have in my DA running a 36Gb Raptor and OS10.4.11 and doing it well. I think what he is after though is whether these cards can have a DVD drive plugged into them that you can boot off. I don't have a SATA optical drive that I can plug into it and test it to see if it is also bootable. From what I have read some can , some can't. Stewie From: billycarm...@verizon.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: SATA card for DVD burner in a MDD Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:18:06 -0500 On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Stewie de Young wrote: Ross , I thought someone might have weighed in with some advice by now but not so far. I don't know the answer to your question but if you go here http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso and just select Interface type - IDE Serial ATA PCI card and Mac Model - MDD Then click the search button, I get 5 results with all the info. Changing the Mac Model to Apple Dual CPU and hitting the search button again I get a lot more. Hopefully somewhere in there amongst all the posts you will be able to glean the right info. Don't know if its the cheapest, but this one is working well in my DA Dual G4 533 (SATA 1TB Seagate off it only at present): FirmTek SeriTek/1S2 Internal Serial ATA Host Adapter https://eshop.macsales.com/item/Firmtek/FTST1S2/ 2 ports for SATA internal drives, PCI controller. _ Want to know what your boss is paid? Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't purchase from iTunes Store
Make sure you have Safari upgraded and installed...that sneaky iTunes store uses Safari. Bill Sent from my iPhone. Bill Boggs 219-781-6628 On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: minG4 Tiger iTunes 9.0.2 Try to purchase a tune and get Error 1008 Google search on problem reveals others with same problem Seeming only fix is revert to vs 8. Surely there s a fix in the making. So, wondering if others here have experienced similar issues and/or have inside scoop on anticipated fixes, or shall I just regress? Thanks, Cliff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hacking cellphone pics from Motorola flip up cell phone to Powerbook G3 Pismo
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Michael J. Amato wrote: I have a motorola flip phone. It has Bluetooth which I use for that purpose. Can you set up Pismo for bluetooth? I'm not Dwight, but yeah, any USB Bluetooth dongle will work in OS X. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
thanks bruce and others... i am a noivice in Apple world, just seriously using this machines for a year (even i smiliar with them since 1988). Any PC software that can backup Apple's from PC? For networks... it will be my last question. 2009/11/10 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:52 AM, iJohn wrote: What advantage is there to using these other apps beyond what Apple's Disk Utility would provide? CCC lets you schedule copies and maintains an up-to-date version, only copying files that have changed. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
hmmm... i might try it... if i can... i will report it 2009/11/11 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Baha Ata wrote: Any PC software that can backup Apple's from PC? For networks... it will be my last question. Big enterprise solutions like Arcserve offer Mac clients. I did find this open source enterprise backup: http://www.zmanda.com/ which has an OS X client: http://www.zmanda.com/amanda-client-macintosh.html Hmmm. I hadn't run across this before -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Classic on Ruby Red iMac
I have a Ruby Red iMac that i am setting up for a 6 year old. It is G3, 400mhz. I installed a new hard drive and formatted it to 10.4, that's the OS her school runs on their iMacs.) I have also installed several learning games that need Classic. However, whenever I try to open one of these, I get a message that it cant find 9.2 to run Classic. I thought i had installed it during the 10.4 installation. Was there a separate option? How can i put in on the iMac now? Jane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Classic on Ruby Red iMac
On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:59 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I have a Ruby Red iMac that i am setting up for a 6 year old. It is G3, 400mhz. I installed a new hard drive and formatted it to 10.4, that's the OS her school runs on their iMacs.) I have also installed several learning games that need Classic. However, whenever I try to open one of these, I get a message that it cant find 9.2 to run Classic. I thought i had installed it during the 10.4 installation. Was there a separate option? How can i put in on the iMac now? Jane The 10.4 DVD contains support for Classic, but you will have to install 9.2.2 separately. Put in a 9.2.x disk while in Tiger, then select it as the startup disk in System Preferences and restart. Or restart and hold down the C key. Once booted to the OS 9 disk, install 9.2.x and then run Software Update until there's nothing left to update. You may find that the firmware needs to be updated; if so, consider yourself lucky that 10.4 ran OK. When you're happy with OS 9.2.2, select OS 10.4 as the startup disk in Control Panel, and restart in 10.4. Once there, go to System Preferences, select Classic and follow the prompts. One of the options is to always start up Classic when the iMac boots into 10.4. That lets you put Classic program icons on the desktop, and your little friend will be able to launch those apps without any problems. Of course, check them out first since some OS 9 apps don't run very well in Classic. If so, then you'll have lots of fun teaching a 6-year-old how to do the old dual-boot dance. Good luck! Jim Scott --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Classic on Ruby Red iMac
janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I have a Ruby Red iMac that i am setting up for a 6 year old. It is G3, 400mhz. I installed a new hard drive and formatted it to 10.4, that's the OS her school runs on their iMacs.) I have also installed several learning games that need Classic. However, whenever I try to open one of these, I get a message that it cant find 9.2 to run Classic. I thought i had installed it during the 10.4 installation. Was there a separate option? How can i put in on the iMac now? A retail Mac OS X install doesn't include Classic. I know my iBook G4 installer disk came with a Classic installer but I don't recall how it was handled, if it was an option in the main install or a separate installer file you had to run afterwards. If your installer doesn't have it you can download a 9.something installer from Apple. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA card for DVD burner in a MDD
On Nov 10, 11:27 am, Stewie de Young stewies...@hotmail.com wrote: ... I think what he is after though is whether these cards can have a DVD drive plugged into them that you can boot off... Stewie Correct! I just searched for Mac compatible SATA controller cards, then for cheap Mac compatible SATA cards. I finally found that Silicon Image chip sets are the basis for most Mac compatible SATA cards. SYBA makes about the cheapest SATA II 2int/2/ext 4-port Mac compatible out there; PCI-X model SD-PCXSA2-2E2R, $33.99 @ mwave.com. The card comes stock with a RAID capable (software only) BIOS/firmware that only supports hard drives. However, a non-RAID BIOS/firmware is available for download (card must be flashed in a Windows PC) that eliminates the delay at boot caused by the RAID BIOS looking for a RAID drive set, and allows the card to support SATA ATAPI devices such as optical drives, tape drives, etc. as well as hard drives (non-RAID). The SYBA SATA PCI-X model SD-PCXSA2-2E2R controller card is based on the SIL3124 chipset. So theoretically, any card based on this chip set will run in a Mac with the right BIOS/firmware installed. There are several other manufacturers cards available using this chip set that allow port multiplier (up to 5 devices/port) operation with external enclosures, etc.. I had to inquire directly with the manufacturer's tech support personnel to obtain this info. They were also very specific about which versions of OS X the card would operate with. Namely, 10.4.9, 10.4.10 and 10.5.1. I have sent an inquiry to confirm whether or not these are the ONLY versions of OS X the card will function with. If so, I will have to keep searching for a solution. I believe I have found an alternate card that will work under 10.5.8 and 10.6.1, but it is a 4-port internal that costs about $89.99-$119.00. Way too much for simply adding a SATA DVD burner to my MDD, unless I can sell the Seritek 1V4 for about the same amount. There may be some SIL3512 based cards that will work as well. Still looking... Anyway, thanks to all who tried to help. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA card for DVD burner in a MDD
On Nov 10, 6:35 pm, Ross olfec...@digizip.com wrote: On Nov 10, 11:27 am, Stewie de Young stewies...@hotmail.com wrote: ... I think what he is after though is whether these cards can have a DVD drive plugged into them that you can boot off... Stewie Correct! I just searched for Mac compatible SATA controller cards, then for cheap Mac compatible SATA cards. I finally found that Silicon Image chip sets are the basis for most Mac compatible SATA cards. SYBA makes about the cheapest SATA II 2int/2/ext 4-port Mac compatible out there; PCI-X model SD-PCXSA2-2E2R, $33.99 @ mwave.com. The card comes stock with a RAID capable (software only) BIOS/firmware that only supports hard drives. However, a non-RAID BIOS/firmware is available for download (card must be flashed in a Windows PC) that eliminates the delay at boot caused by the RAID BIOS looking for a RAID drive set, and allows the card to support SATA ATAPI devices such as optical drives, tape drives, etc. as well as hard drives (non-RAID). The SYBA SATA PCI-X model SD-PCXSA2-2E2R controller card is based on the SIL3124 chipset. So theoretically, any card based on this chip set will run in a Mac with the right BIOS/firmware installed. There are several other manufacturers cards available using this chip set that allow port multiplier (up to 5 devices/port) operation with external enclosures, etc.. I had to inquire directly with the manufacturer's tech support personnel to obtain this info. They were also very specific about which versions of OS X the card would operate with. Namely, 10.4.9, 10.4.10 and 10.5.1. I have sent an inquiry to confirm whether or not these are the ONLY versions of OS X the card will function with. If so, I will have to keep searching for a solution. I believe I have found an alternate card that will work under 10.5.8 and 10.6.1, but it is a 4-port internal that costs about $89.99-$119.00. Way too much for simply adding a SATA DVD burner to my MDD, unless I can sell the Seritek 1V4 for about the same amount. There may be some SIL3512 based cards that will work as well. Still looking... Anyway, thanks to all who tried to help. SIL3512 based cards do NOT work with Macs. Here is a list of BIOS/ firmware available for the SIL3124 based cards, along with the versions of OS X they support: http://www.siliconimage.com/support/searchresults.aspx? pid=27cat=3os=3 There are other manufacturers that I have not investigated yet; e.g., Addonics, Areca and Adaptec. I will take a look at their product lines as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
