Re: Dying GPUs?
On 9/5/10 01:04, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Is it DOS or the DOS command shell under Windows that the card patching programs need. I always figured they were DOS programs because those writing them were too lazy to create a GUI. It's plain old DOS usually - booted from a floppy to the flashing A drive prompt so you can easily fashion a DOS boot floppy for each card you may wish to flash. Flashing can be done with Windows running with apps like WinFlash etc but the problem is that the Windows flashing apps are unlikely to recognise or use a mac rom. It's also worth pointing out that many Radeon cards are flash locked to access only 64K of the rom and full mac roms are 128K. So reduced roms or high soldering skills are required - reducing is done by removing more than half of the mac rom data. Unlocking via soldering requires moving very very small resistors. The rom chip onboard the card may also be only 64K but they are quite easy to replace with 128K chip. Cards flashed with a reduced mac rom should then be flashed again in a mac using Graphiccelerator 1.3.3a utility and the full mac rom as it ignores the 64K lock. All great fun Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: can i use this video card?
On 8/5/10 20:48, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: i have recently bought an ATI Radeon 9600 with 256MB video RAM. I know I have to do some tweaking to put it in a PM G4 graphite Sawtooth It is a PC card. I have Leopard on the sawtooth right now, but the video card has only 64MB video RAM. The video card in it right now is an Nvidi GeForce 4 MX/MX 440 with 64MB of RAM. I want to put in the radeon for better graphics. I originally had an ATI RAGE 128 Pro in it with a measely 16MB of VRAM, and it was unbearable to work with. Dashboard lagged, and the icon animation effect wook 5 minutes to do one bounce cycle. With this GeForce card, I have good graphics, dashboard is really smooth, and everything is great as far as OS X goes. But when I play online games like super mario flash, i lags. The Windows do minimize smoothly and everything is good, I just want an even better video card. The PC 9600 models are mostly unusable in a mac - those that will convert must have BGA ram (square) rather than the slower TSOP ram (oblong). See. http://themacelite.wikidot.com/9600bga even though it may be convertible to mac it may suffer from reduced performance or non working ports. The 9500/9700/9800/XT models are more easy to convert. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: can i use this video card?
The PC 9600 models are mostly unusable in a mac - those that will convert must have BGA ram (square) rather than the slower TSOP ram (oblong). See. http://themacelite.wikidot.com/9600bga even though it may be convertible to mac it may suffer from reduced performance or non working ports. The 9500/9700/9800/XT models are more easy to convert. Pete Even on PCs the 9600's were a poor card and regarded as a stop gap until the better 9800's came out. I have a DA with a flashed 9600 256mb card and it is OK but certainly no world beater. I'd say it performs only as good as my 9800 128mb card in my other DA. The 9800 256mb cards and even better, the 9800XT's are a very good card and well worth the extra money. One thing though is that they do run hot and the video cards onboard fans are prone to a high failure rate. I replaced mine with an excellent Artic Cooler fan which runs just slightly louder but keeps the card so much cooler. Stewie _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Question
I found myself something called an iTrip Can I access it somehow with my G4 Quicksilver? If so, how do I do this? Also, what is this thing? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Which is better?
Ok guys and gals. I have just one question. I have 2 video cards that i plan on putting on my PM G4 sawtooth. One is an Nvidia GeForce 6200 with 256MB RAM, the other is an ATI Radeon 9550 with 256MB of RAM. Both are flashed PC cards and work well on my system. Which one is better to use? (hint: i don't know!!!) Which one would perform better? -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Red Light on startup
I have had some expirience with PM G5 towers, and they do have some noisy fans, not to mention the annoying red LED light. Just to warn you, do be careful that your PM G5 IS NOT liquid cooled, because there were sooo many reports piling up saying that their processor cooling unit just exploded or leaked, causing logic board corrosion and/or processor damage. That happened to me the week after I bought mine back in '05, and Apple replaced it the next day I came to the store. Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which is better?
On May 9, 2010, at 12:12 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Ok guys and gals. I have just one question. I have 2 video cards that i plan on putting on my PM G4 sawtooth. One is an Nvidia GeForce 6200 with 256MB RAM, the other is an ATI Radeon 9550 with 256MB of RAM. Both are flashed PC cards and work well on my system. Which one is better to use? (hint: i don't know!!!) Which one would perform better? Since you have both cards, instead of ASKING us which works better, why don't you TELL us which works better? Some ideas for tests might be: CineBench OpenMark OpenGL Extensions Viewer XBench GeekBench Common game frame rates If I were guessing, I'd think the GeForce might be a tiny bit better? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Wakes up Screaming
A couple times now my G5 has woken from sleep the fans have gone into high gear. I have an Airport network. This time no other computers were on. I got this in my Logs/DirectoryService/DirectoryService.server.log : 2010-05-09 08:43:48 EDT - T[0xA0586820] - Sleep Notification occurred. 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xA0586820] - 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xA0586820] - DirectoryService 5.8.1 (v514.27) starting up... 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin Cache, Version 1.0, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin Configure, Version 3.0, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin Local, Version 1.1, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin LDAPv3, Version 3.1, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin Search, Version 3.1, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin BSD, Version 2.0, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF030B000] - Registered node /Configure 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF030B000] - Plug-in Configure state is now active. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF040F000] - Plug-in LDAPv3 state is now active. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0491000] - Registered node /Search 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0513000] - Registered Locally Hosted Node /BSD/local 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0491000] - Registered node /Search/Contacts 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0513000] - Registered node /BSD/local 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0513000] - Plug-in BSD state is now active. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0491000] - Registered node /Search/Network 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0491000] - Plug-in Search state is now active. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF038D000] - Registered Locally Hosted Node /Local/Default 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF038D000] - Registered node /Local/Default 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF038D000] - Plug-in Local state is now active. 2010-05-09 09:06:56 EDT - T[0xF0289000] - Registered node /Cache 2010-05-09 09:06:56 EDT - T[0xF0289000] - Plug-in Cache state is now active. 2010-05-09 09:06:56 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin Active Directory, Version 1.6.5, is set to load lazily. 2010-05-09 09:06:56 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin PasswordServer, Version 4.0.4, is set to load lazily. 2010-05-09 09:07:21 EDT - T[0xF0081000] - Network transition occurred. 2010-05-09 09:07:23 EDT - T[0xF0081000] - Network transition occurred. 2010-05-09 09:07:24 EDT - T[0xF0081000] - Network transition occurred. 2010-05-09 09:07:24 EDT - T[0xF0081000] - Network transition occurred. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which is better?
okay but the thing is... where can i download a benchmark program? -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which is better?
On May 9, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: okay but the thing is... where can i download a benchmark program? -- http://lmgtfy.com/?q=geekbench http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cinebench http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xbench I normally use xBench for benchmarking Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which is better?
On May 9, 1:12 am, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have 2 video cards that i plan on putting on my PM G4 sawtooth. One is an Nvidia GeForce 6200 with 256MB RAM, the other is an ATI Radeon 9550 with 256MB of RAM. Both are flashed PC cards and work well on my system. Which one is better to use? If you are running Leopard the GeForce 6200 will cause a boot delay of 2 - 3 minutes (unless you flashed it with the modified ROM that removes the temperature sensing function). But on the + side, once booted you can monitor the GPU temp using a program like Temperature Monitor; I don't think the Radeon 9550 has temp sensor capability. I put up with the 6200's boot delay because I like to monitor temperatures, heat can build up in Macs when you start adding processor upgrades, RAM, better video cards, additional hard drives, etc. If the 6200 is a fanless model you should look into putting a fan on it, these are popular add-ons for the 6200: http://www.aerocooler.com/shop.cart?action=ITEMprod_id=FANTIC3 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!
But the low-profile SIMMs are for the VRAM, correct? The RAM modules are standard PC-66 low-density ones, right? Yesterday I was busy tinkering with the PM... installed some old apps which I found in Macintosh Garden, and then started copying some old floppies I have here (unfortunately, some of them have become corrupted and are not read anymore :( ). And using it with my 22'' HP flat screen is simply great (I tinkered with the dip switches on the adapter until I found the perfect resolution - now the Mac thinks it is attached to a 21'' Apple fixed-resolution display, and goes up to 1152xsomething. I haven't noticed until last night that the PM was able to sleep - I had it turned on, and went away for a while. When I came back the power LED was flashing and it had turned off... great! And I totally love the design of the case - these were the days when Apple was genuinely concerned with the user-serviceability of their machines, and made it really easy to work inside of it (even in a desktop machine, which are always smaller!). Thanks to you all, for all the replies! MM On May 9, 1:03 am, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: If I recall properly, adding the VRAM gave more color options for my beige G3. When I added the Radon 7000 to run Tiger I did have to install a fan blowing across the video card to keep it from over heating. It would be fair to say that I have the desktop 266 (not the tower) so it takes those low profile simms. I have the standard size simms in it so I have the case off and top part slightly open so the simms don't have any weight on them. I am certain this has totally messed up the designers airflow through the mac and is most likely the cause of the video card over heating. But when I want to run an application for days on end without any consideration, I start it on the old Beige G3 and turn the monitor off and forget about it. It shares its files and does it job. And if I want to fire up the old scsi flat bed scanner I reboot to 9.2 and I can scan and use my old apple laserwriter printer to print it out. I don't know if that toner cart will ever empty grin. Plus running the A10 simulator games never seem to get old. Good Luck with your (new to you) beige!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Wakes up Screaming
On May 9, 2010, at 6:23 AM, M Christol wrote: A couple times now my G5 has woken from sleep the fans have gone into high gear. I have an Airport network. This time no other computers were on. I got this in my Logs/DirectoryService/ DirectoryService.server.log : 2010-05-09 08:43:48 EDT - T[0xA0586820] - Sleep Notification occurred. 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xA0586820] - 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xA0586820] - DirectoryService 5.8.1 (v514.27) starting up... 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin Cache, Version 1.0, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin Configure, Version 3.0, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:43 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin Local, Version 1.1, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin LDAPv3, Version 3.1, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin Search, Version 3.1, processed successfully. 2010-05-09 09:06:45 EDT - T[0xF0185000] - Plugin BSD, Version 2.0, processed successfully. This was a consequence of it waking up, not the cause. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Red Light on startup
The liquid cooler death is pretty well known by now. Mine are all dual 2gig units so they never had this device ticking away inside in the first place. Still the warning is appreciated. You mentioned the annoying red light in your post. Are you indicating that this is normal? This is on a model A1117 not the earlier A1047. I have both. The A1047 is the one with the screeching fans and no red light. The A1117 is just the opposite. Is all this normal? I am going to follow Bruce's suggestion and get a temp measuring module of some sort and check both units just for peace of mind in any case. Thanks for the heads up on the cooler warning! Cheers On May 9, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I have had some expirience with PM G5 towers, and they do have some noisy fans, not to mention the annoying red LED light. Just to warn you, do be careful that your PM G5 IS NOT liquid cooled, because there were sooo many reports piling up saying that their processor cooling unit just exploded or leaked, causing logic board corrosion and/or processor damage. That happened to me the week after I bought mine back in '05, and Apple replaced it the next day I came to the store. Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dying GPUs?
Thanks for all the replies - very useful info if I ever intend to try this. Now, AMD or Intel Winbox? ;-) Anyway, it was the Apple DVD player that was mostly having issues. The movies would be stopping and way out of sync as Mac OS 9's DVD player could be a lot of the time. iTunes rentals do mostly OK with a few stutters, which is not unusual for a low end G4 slightly below the 1GHz mark, plus no Core image hardware only software support. But, it Does support Quartz extreme. (That's a sweet spot for this GForce4 Ti) -Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!
On May 9, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Manuel Marques wrote: But the low-profile SIMMs are for the VRAM, correct? The RAM modules are standard PC-66 low-density ones, right? vram modules are different than simms. vrams are smaller and look like laptop memory. The ram modules are standard pc-66 low density. HOWEVER, there were 2 specs for some reason as to the size of the actual sticks. IIRC, they were either 1 1/4 or 1 and 1/2 tall. The taller ones would not fit in a desktop beige without removing the fan shroud and the shorter ones fit fine with the fan shroud on. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Red Light on startup
i have a late 05 g5 tower and i have the red light also i think this is normal and nothing to worry about On May 8, 10:29 am, William Lueders wlued...@mac.com wrote: Group, I have acquired a Power Mac G5, Model # A1117 produced around January 2006. Has dual 2gig PPC's, 4 gig ram. Works like a champ as my wife's main computer. I have a Apple cinema (20) attached and over all couldn't be happier. However! (Always one of these, However's not too far away.) It is very silent. No noticeable fan noise at all! When I start it up there is a Red glowing light behind and above the start up button that goes on with the white light indicating power on. This red indicator stays on for perhaps one or two seconds, no longer, and then start up proceeds with the chime and boot up. Is this normal for this type of machine? Is the red light trying to tell me something? I have a earlier (2005) model that has fans that go on during start up and when any work is being done and they make a real racket. You can't miss them. And there is no Red light. I know this is a different build and there are considerable differences inside the machines. Both do the jobs asked of them well, one quietly and one with some attendant fan noise. Should I worry? Should I just shut up and enjoy? Why do the chickens cross the road? Inquiring minds want to know! Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks for your time. Uncletoot. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Which is better?
On May 9, 1:12 am, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have 2 video cards that i plan on putting on my PM G4 sawtooth. One is an Nvidia GeForce 6200 with 256MB RAM, the other is an ATI Radeon 9550 with 256MB of RAM. Both are flashed PC cards and work well on my system. Which one is better to use? If you are running Leopard the GeForce 6200 will cause a boot delay of 2 - 3 minutes (unless you flashed it with the modified ROM that removes the temperature sensing function). But on the + side, once booted you can monitor the GPU temp using a program like Temperature Monitor; I don't think the Radeon 9550 has temp sensor capability. I put up with the 6200's boot delay because I like to monitor temperatures, heat can build up in Macs when you start adding processor upgrades, RAM, better video cards, additional hard drives, etc. If the 6200 is a fanless model you should look into putting a fan on it, these are popular add-ons for the 6200: http://www.aerocooler.com/shop.cart?action=ITEMprod_id=FANTIC3 All true DC but I don't think you have to modify the Rom if you don't want to. I seem to recall reading that it is the temp.kext that you can simply remove or add back into your library to have the temp monitor working or not. These nvidia 6200s are the best video cards for the G4 Cube - also 2x AGP slots, so have been pretty well documented. http://www.cubeowner.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13181pid=90144mode=threadedshow=st=; Stewie _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!
The problem may lie in the CD Rom drive itself. I've had this experience in the past with my G3's On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On May 9, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Manuel Marques wrote: But the low-profile SIMMs are for the VRAM, correct? The RAM modules are standard PC-66 low-density ones, right? vram modules are different than simms. vrams are smaller and look like laptop memory. The ram modules are standard pc-66 low density. HOWEVER, there were 2 specs for some reason as to the size of the actual sticks. IIRC, they were either 1 1/4 or 1 and 1/2 tall. The taller ones would not fit in a desktop beige without removing the fan shroud and the shorter ones fit fine with the fan shroud on. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!
Hiya Listers, Can anyone tell me why my G4 1.5 GHz Mini (OS X Tiger 10.4.2, deliberately!) thinks I have a Bluetooth Mouse and insists I produce it? I had to restart my Mini because it locked up when I plugged my USB external HD into it (something I've done successfully before), but along with the desktop coming up, the Bluetooth Setup Assistant is trying unsuccessfully to find a Bluetooth mouse. All I have is optical mice which (up until a few minutes ago with the Mini here) worked fine. My present mouse is a Logitech optical 2 button scroll wheel mouse which I've been using and it's still working fine on my Quicksilver 867 (through the KVM) which I'm using right now to write this post. Anyway: Where's this Bluetooth stuff coming from? I don't own any Bluetooth peripherals of any kind, much less ever tried to set that up on my Mini. It's whining the following: Pairing with your Bluetooth mouse When your mouse is found, it will be paired with your computer. If your mouse is not found, make sure it is discoverable. If you are using an Apple Wireless Mouse, slide the cover on the bottom of the mouse to expose the LED. For a non-Apple mouse, see the documentation that came with the mouse. Need to know what to do to be able to start up the Mini and NOT get this. Never had this happen before... Thanks in advance, ~Yersinia. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!
===( )8 wrote: Hiya Listers, Can anyone tell me why my G4 1.5 GHz Mini (OS X Tiger 10.4.2, deliberately!) thinks I have a Bluetooth Mouse and insists I produce it? I had to restart my Mini because it locked up when I plugged my USB external HDT Try going into the bluetooth prefs and turn off blue tooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!
Charles Lenington writes, Try going into the bluetooth prefs and turn off blue tooth. No can do. :-( I can't do ANYTHING with the Mini the way it is now. The cursor arrow is STUCK in the upper left side of the screen while the little gear in the dialog box screaming for a Bluetooth mouse spins and keeps telling me no mice have been found... Jack Countryman writes, Why is Bluetooth turned on, if you do not use any Bluetooth peripherals? Dunno. I never touched it that I can recall. Like I said, I've never had this happen, never seen it before. What happens if you safe boot and turn Bluetooth off, then reboot normally? How do you shut off Bluetooth from a safe boot? Safe boot = boot while holding the shift key, right? Or is there some sort of Bluetooth preference/history file from some othertime when someone (maybe someone other than you?) had such a device around your computer when Bluetooth was turned on? 1. No idea. I bought my Mini from someone on the LEM Swap list, but I did my own install of the OS using the 10.4.2 system CD which was included. 2. Not that I'm aware of, but maybe. My boyfriend always has his work laptop (ouch, a Windoze box) with him when he comes over, and he has this little wireless card-sorta-thing for Verizon wireless Internet access which he uses for work (is this a Bluetooth device possibly?), but that stuff is always in the living room and the Mini is in the bedroom.other than that little wireless card-sorta-thing for his Verizon wireless account, at the moment I have no idea what else he's got that might be Bluetooth. Well, I'll be happy to try a safe mode boot (confirm please, shift-power button?) and turn off Bluetooth that way if you can tell me how. Thanks, ~Yersinia. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: WebKit Nightly
Previously, at 12:08 am -0400 5/7/10, Dan wrote: WebKit Nightly warns about plug-ins by default - just in case the plug-in interfaces get changed. It's a general warning to make you aware of the fact that there could be problems, so you need to keep up with things. System-wide plug-in are stashed in /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ and /Library/InputManagers/ User specific plug-ins are stashed in ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ and ~/Library/InputManagers/ Is there something wrong about leaving them in? Or which should I trash? p. -- People who have no weaknesses are terrible; there is no way of taking advantage of them. -- Anatole France, -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: place to sell my old G4
I agree with Richard. I only sell things, that are either cheap to ship, (laptops and the like, something that can fit in a flat rate box), and things that are worth some serious money. The only problem with that is the final value fees. -Jonas On 5/7/10, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote: InSaNeBoY wrote: ok, I'm sick of LEM Swap's moderation garbage.can't even revise lower pice and add more to a posting, than they give no way to try to 'appeal' the moderators whims, just gives me a bounced message when I try to email the list managers, than when I post to the group they yell at me and tell me to send a message to the list managers(yeah, catch 22!) is eBay my only route? or are there other mac sales lists/boards I could post it? -sam Which list manager are you trying to contact? Perhaps I can help. Peace, Dennis in Victoria -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: But Mini, I don't HAVE a Bluetooth Mouse!
On May 9, 2010, at 10:56 PM, ===( )8 wrote: Charles Lenington writes, Try going into the bluetooth prefs and turn off blue tooth. No can do. :-( I can't do ANYTHING with the Mini the way it is now. The cursor arrow is STUCK in the upper left side of the screen while the little gear in the dialog box screaming for a Bluetooth mouse spins and keeps telling me no mice have been found... Jack Countryman writes, Why is Bluetooth turned on, if you do not use any Bluetooth peripherals? Dunno. I never touched it that I can recall. Like I said, I've never had this happen, never seen it before. What happens if you safe boot and turn Bluetooth off, then reboot normally? How do you shut off Bluetooth from a safe boot? Safe boot = boot while holding the shift key, right? Or is there some sort of Bluetooth preference/history file from some othertime when someone (maybe someone other than you?) had such a device around your computer when Bluetooth was turned on? 1. No idea. I bought my Mini from someone on the LEM Swap list, but I did my own install of the OS using the 10.4.2 system CD which was included. And why haven't you updated to 10.4.11? Well, I'll be happy to try a safe mode boot (confirm please, shift- power button?) and turn off Bluetooth that way if you can tell me how. And what's the delay? Safe boot holding the Shift key. Go to System PreferencesNetworkBluetooth and turn it off (or even delete it using the - button IF you have no bluetooth devices you're using now). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
