Re: Sad day...
On 11-10-05 11:31 PM, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Il giorno 6-10-2011 3:44, Len Gerstel ha scritto: Reading the slashdot thread showed me a little easter egg I had never seen. The text of which applied to Steve Jobs as much as anyone in the ads. Zoom the Text Edit icon to as large as you can, and you will see the following. Dear Katie, [...] Len, I can't see it. :-( I'm using OSX 10.4.11. TextEdit version 1.4. I enlarged the window's icon size to 128 (the max), I zoomed in using Ctrl-scroll, but it wasn't enough to read the text (obviously, 128 pixel is not enough to fit in a page of text). What do you mean with Zoom the Text Edit icon? Am I missing something? I really love easter eggs... :-) Okay, Get Info Text Edit. Click on the icon in Get Info and copy. Open a graphics program like Fireworks and begin a new file. Paste your copied icon to the new file (and in the case of Fireworks you don't need to zoom in at all!). You can now zoom in to read the letter. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrading to Lion
On 11-08-04 1:30 PM, diane dianed...@gmail.com wrote: Is it true that you have to have SL to do the upgrade? I didn't see this as a requirement on Apple's site though they only have instructions for upgrading from SL, no other OS is mentioned. Somehow I missed that tidbit in the hoopla. Thanks, Diane There are articles out there that will explain in detail how to create a USB or DVD version of the Lion installer so you can do a clean install. I actually made an installer using a small partition of my 2TB drive and did a clean install on a much larger partition. The actual installer is buried in the contents package and it is a .dmg file. The articles will explain everything. Installation of Lion went much faster using the hard drive than when using DVD. BTW the articles do warn that booting the installer from DVD does take awhile so be patient. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.
On 10/05/11 12:50 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Go to these sources: http://www.tonymacx86.com/ http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a?hl=en For a wealth of information on building a Hack that DOES NOT REQUIRE altering the OS X installer; you install from the standard OS X disk. And at this point we're S far off topic, I expect the Nanny will close the thread. Woo hoo! I just built my first Custo-mac/Hackintosh! Thanks to the tonymacx86 site I was able to build a Mac Pro model 4,1 for under $1000 and it works great. I even used the upgrade disc (legit bought from Apple itself) and even though there was some hair pulling and cursing at times it is now working smoothly and I haven't seen OS X run this fast before. Core i5 4GB Ram 2TB HDD Sony Optiarc DVD-RW Gigabyte AMD/ATI 1GB Radeon HD 5770 Still my heart is with my PM G5, a model whose time was cut too short. =( -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Car computer
On 22/05/11 10:30 PM, Alexander Gomes alexcomputersolut...@gmail.com wrote: Again, that would be developed for an ARM cpu. I'm looking for a way to use my oldish hardware in a very productive way. I'm not wanting to use an ipod/ipad. I use an android phone because I found it to be much better then my jailbroken(that I jailbroke) iphone. Runs faster and cleaner out of the box then any iPhone I've ever run into. Ever. On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Jim McGee orb...@dslextreme.com wrote: This popped up: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1024525 which led to : http://www.devtoaster.com/products/rev/ works with iphone and ipod Jim Is this what you¹re looking for? http://gep.web.id/176/android-phone-car-diagnostic-kit/ ³Runs faster and cleaner out of the box then any iPhone I've ever run into. Ever.² Really? Maybe your problem was that it was jailbroken. My iPhone 4 runs very smoothly and quickly. I¹ve tried the Android phones of various makes and models and the myriad of Android flavours and I just found the iPhone 4 (not jailbroken) more stable. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.
On 10/05/11 12:50 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 10, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Jack Countryman wrote: IPC 10.5.6?? What's IPC mean here, or where do I find that version of 10.5.6? Yeah, I know...you know what you mean, but I'm not that much up to speed on this stuff anymore, and must have missed the post somewhere that talks about what IPC is in this context?(Last one I built that really worked was with the Kalyway distro...several years ago...if that gives you an idea of how far out of sync I am.) I'd really like to get a 10.6 machine going one of these times...just to show it can be done... Thanks. We are veering off into dealing with illegal torrents of altered OS X'es, which really isn't necessary. Go to these sources: http://www.tonymacx86.com/ http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a?hl=en For a wealth of information on building a Hack that DOES NOT REQUIRE altering the OS X installer; you install from the standard OS X disk. And at this point we're S far off topic, I expect the Nanny will close the thread. Thanks for the links Bruce! I looked at the tonyx86 site and I've just ordered my parts. Wish me luck! I was planning on saving up for a Mac Pro, but if this gets me to the promised land on the cheap then I'm a happy camper =). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Nullriver's MediaLink Leopard on a G4
On 14/04/11 8:29 AM, Jay Smith jonathan.newcas...@gmail.com wrote: I only have experience of this from my PC days and I used 'ps3 media server'. It was light, free and did the job. It is also available for mac on macupdates and runs on Leopard. I would try it and save $20. Sent from my iPhone PS3 Media Server works okay with the PS3 (v.1.10.5). I was using it on my PM G5 running leopard. I did notice that it had some difficulties with certain file formats and it didn't list some of the files I had. I switched to El Gato's Eye Connect and have been happy with it's performance. Also this program works well with both PS3 and my Sony Blu-Ray BDP370. One thing to remember is the PS3 will not play certain divx formats, the file may say .avi, but the PS3 will not play the sound. It's basically trial and error on which files it will play properly. The ones I couldn't play I've had to convert them to .mp4 in order for the PS3 to properly play it. I basically took half of my dvd collection and converted it to divx so I can just stream the video straight to my television. It's almost perfect. IMHO stay away from Media Link. I've had problems with it trying to stream my files to the PS3 and my blu-ray. I wish I had looked more closely into it before plunking down my $20. I use Handbrake to convert my files to .mp4 and Xilisoft's Video converter to convert to divx. One more thing, if you start to notice stuttering in your videos you can either copy the file to your PS3 hd and play it from there OR it could be a simple matter of turning off the media server program and turning it back on. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New addition to my tool kit...
On 01/04/11 7:35 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/04/01 15:57, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 2:40 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: On Apr 1, 4:37 pm, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: ...something everyone who works with computers should have in their kit... http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10622 I'm buying a bunch! This is ridiculous. I paid over twice the price for half the portion they are selling here. I guess I got ripped off.:( What can I say, the magic smoke market is highly volatile... I hear Cheech Chong can get you a good dealŠ Tina I've dealt with Cheech Chong Co. and IMHO Cheech is a very respectable dealer. Very laid back, almost to the point of comatose. Anyway don't believe those prices advertised, the going rate for magic blue smoke (MBS) is actually quite high right now (2 - 3 x the advertised price on sparkfun). I bet you sparkfun is mixing theirs with some other substance and selling them as pure MBS. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: problemas com o blackberry e apple
On 16/03/11 3:59 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) janespra...@comcast.net wrote: On Mar 10, 5:12 pm, ricardo ferreira rjr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flixxy.com/my-blackberry-is-not-working.htm This is so funny that I forwarded it to lots of friends! Jane ROFL Thanks Jane! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple Oompa Loompas!
LOL!! LOVE IT! Thanks Dan! I'm glad they included the song Pure Imagination it's my fav from the original Willy Wonka. Those Apple Loompas don't look Chinese though. Shouldn't they? On 04/03/11 10:10 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1948362 And make sure you CRANK up the volume for the singing Oompas! - Dan. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BW G3
On 08/12/10 5:56 PM, applewho queel...@yahoo.com wrote: I have BW G3, rev1, , it seems that the motherboard is good because when turned on the light come on on the motherboard and it chimes. It has a SCSI board installed on it, ATA/133 PCI card installed, and ati graphics card. There are 4 memory cards installed. Problem: HDs. I have a few HDs laying around the house that I would like to see if they work, they worked on the G3 at one time. I have transported the G3 across country and now am trying to figure out if I can use this machine while I save up for a G5 destop and take some of the pressure and time off my Macbook for video stuff. I want to know if it is worth my time and pocket to try to get the G3 working for a little bit of cash. I purchased a $6 usb keyboard online and am using a emachine monitor. I have tried hooking up the HDs to the PCI card and then booted but nothing, while the HDs light up, I get nothing on the monitor.PLs help, I have put OS9 in the CD tray and when installing pressed Cl to try and boot up to the CD but so far nothing. PLS help. is there any way to try to see if the drives will work. I do have external drives that I use with my laptop, one is a usb and the orther is a FW HD. both of these drives work with the laptop. But I have not tried to see if they work with the G3. Lost at home. :( Have you tried zapping your PRAM? Sometimes that works. You should have no problems using master/slave configs with the ATA PCI card. It's the onboard ATA controller that had issues with master slave configs. You can also try removing all the cards (RAM included) and then reseating them. Then boot from your CD. See if that works. I also have a rev 1 BW and I remember having problems booting from CD whenever I updated it. I did the above that I mentioned and that seemed to fix things. I also remember pressing the CUDA button when I replaced all the cards. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Interesting Vintage Website
On 22/10/10 4:14 PM, Bill Brown thunder...@mindspring.com wrote: Wow!! Take a look at this stuff!! A little expensive for a hard drive, eh? Bill http://www.oddee.com/item_97232.aspx?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailut m_campaign=Feed%3A+Oddee+%28Oddee%29 I remember watching a television series (via video tape) in high school for computer class and one episode discussed hard drives and how they will revolutionize desktop PC's one day. Of course the sample they showed was the size of a steering wheel. I believe the drive was from IBM. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IS the world about to change ?
On 21/10/10 7:02 AM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:40 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: Unfortunately obsolescence is a fact of life in the electronics industry, even tho it's not planned. That may be true but Marketing certainly is planned. And, I see Apple slipping into big brother mode which humankind will naturally resist. I've been a Mac user, (Mac Plus by way of employment), since 1985. I bought my first Mac II way back in 1987. Since that time, I've seen Apple go through two major OS changes, (68xxx, PPC and lastly Intel), and while each of these changes certainly advanced the user's experience, I have detected a creaping feeling of the heavy thumb of Applelonian control. (How's that for a new word? G) If things turn out as many are suggesting, Apple's ascension may run smack into a brick wall. ...And you'll see why 1984 won't be like 1984. Jobs is starting to look and sound like that big brother face on the screen in the famous 1984 commercial, glasses and all. That said, at least we can say is Apple doesn't sit on its laurels and is always trying to innovate (for better or worse). However they are a business and like everyone else they're in it for the money, innovations or not. If you notice in the media event, Jobs starts off with the business aspect of Apple i.e. $22 billion, Mac is 1/3 of Apple revenue, if they were just Macs they'd be no. 110 in Forbes top 500, etc. Apple is in the business of selling an experience. They want you to experience their product their way. The more control they have the less chaos for their user, the less flack they get as a business. Just take a look at the iPhone. It is a very controlled environment, BUT in the spirit of the old Apple days, people have found ways to make it their own by jail breaking it. I can see that happening with the Mac. Remember when we could only use certain optical drives with our Powermacs? Then along comes PatchBurn. Leave it to die hard Mac users to take back control. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IS the world about to change ?
On 20/10/10 12:26 PM, Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Lion ? To be fair Steve did say (regarding the App store), that it won't be the only place to get software. However questions I have are: 1) I'm guessing we can still create an empty folder so one can use them for files? 2) The demo didn't show a hard drive on the desktop, but we'd still have access to it right? 3) Can we just turn Mission Control off and go into a classic mac style mode? (i.e. traditional OS X interface) I had to watch this thing on my iPhone since the G5 and Leopard have been denied entry to the party. One of the windows that was opened did look like you could access the hard drive from the side panel. I was planning on joining the intel Mac crowd and buying a new Mac Pro next year, but would I hesitate just because of Lion? Nah, I'll wait till I get the whole picture of Lion before making any final decision on it. I'd still buy the Pro, but maybe keep it at Snow Leopard till I know more about Lion. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
64-bit question
I know my G5 is 64-bit (I have the late 2005 dual core PPC G5), but is Leopard (10.5.9) 64-bit? I've been looking on the net, but couldn't find a definitive answer. I was told that only 10.6+ is 64-bit. If this is true is there an alternative OS that will run at 64-bit on the PPC G5? Not that I would install it, I was just curious if there was one. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS
On 11/10/10 3:41 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: Except in Toast 6, I always select Video, then on the left panel choose DVD-Video from VIDEO_TS This gives you the option of selecting NTSC or PAL, and in Toast 8 or later, you also have the option to compress to fit on a standard single-layer blank DVD, if your VIDEO_TS folder 4.7GB Ted Good to know! I did not know you could do this, thanks Ted! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: External Fax Modem for G5
Hey folks, I have a late 2005 2.3GHz dual core G5. I wanted to get a fax modem for it and was told that my only option was for an external USB modem. However, I have read that my current OS (10.5.8) does not play well with external modems and that the built-in Fax software of OS X will not recognize external fax modems. Is this true? What are my other fax options? Thanks in advance! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB 2.0 Port G5 PPC (late 2005) question
Hey folks, Quick question is there a difference as how OS X or the computer itself handles the front USB port vs. the rear ports? I have an iPhone 4 and when I connect it to the front port iTunes doesn't automatically start up I have to manually start it. Now iPhoto does start up automatically (which is annoying sometimes since I usually don't have any photos on the iPhone that I've taken). Now come to think of it maybe it's an iTunes 9.2.1 thing. BTW I do have Open iTunes when this phone is connected checked in iTunes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video
Can¹t you simply (in Safari) go to Window-- Activity and then in the window that pops up look for your video file (it¹s the only file in MB). Double click your file and it should start to download. Once downloaded DO NOT open it, but add the extension .flv to it. Then you can open it in Quicktime using Perian and from there convert it to whichever format you want (as long as you have Quicktime Pro). On 22/07/10 7:43 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I want to DL this but nothing I have tried works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iicrreXTauIhd=1 Safari -- I tried Cosmopod but it only sends me to the page to buy it (clicking 'Later does nothing but close that window) Firefox - DownloadHelper didn't do it DownThemAll! didn't do it Flashgot didn't work The DLs were only 0k when anything was downloaded So, how do I get this downloaded? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.
On 22/05/10 7:24 PM, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: I was directed to a web site that pointed out that you had to hobble the bus speed on the G3 in order to use the Yikes G4 processor in it. As someone noted, hobbling the bus speed was only for those processors that were 700+ MHz. I believe just installing these higher speed CPU's hobbled the bus speed for you. If you're installing a G4 or G3 ZIF that was greater than 400 MHz, but 600MHz and under, then what you needed to do was update the firmware of the BW in order for it to properly use the 400+ MHz CPU's. ...Skip the whole upgrade process and invest in a low cost G4 computer all together. It would be much cheaper to go with a low cost G4 and one that used AGP graphics (more and cheaper options for you). You may also want to look into the G5 market (dual core) as they're getting cheaper too. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plz help with printing over network.
On 05/02/10 10:49 AM, A. Tuazon a.tua...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Clark Martin Or since you have a PPC G5 you could put an airport card in it. That is, if it doesn't already have one. Somewhere around the time frame of G5s the Airport card became standard. System Profiler will tell you if you have one. It's probably an original Airport Express but it's best to verify it. They should be available from various sources including e-Bay. If you want to go this route I would strongly recommend the Airport card. The USB adapters have, in my experience, terrible software. It works but it's cumbersome, confusing and not very fun to work with. Apple's Airport software is far, far better to work with. Unfortunately my G5 didn't come with an airport card =(. I'll stick with the PCI cards probably. I would rather have my G5 wired than wireless. One of the computers on the network is a PC so I'll probably make that the wireless. Well I bought an AirLink 101 Wireless-n PCI adapter for the PC, BUT discovered that it uses the same chipset as on the Arkview Wireless-n PCI card. I had an Arkview card installed on my G4 (Gigabit PPC) once, but I took it out and gave it to my dad. I did however keep the install discs. So I decided to try to install the Airlink on the BW just to see what would happen. Just as I thought the Airlink can use the same drivers and utility that will make it work on a PPC!. I believe I paid ~$50 CDN for the Arkview, whereas the ³PC only² Airlink cost only $30 CDN. Once the driver and utility app was installed the card quickly picked up the Airport Extreme base and connected to it. Printer/Fax pane found the printers, installed them and now I¹m good to go. BTW the chip on either card was NOT Broadcom, but RA(?). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plz help with printing over network.
On 05/02/10 2:37 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: As an aside to your current problem, I believe you can configure the Airport Extreme Base Station (AEBS) to act as a network connection. That is you use the wireless Access Point feature of the DSL modem. You then set up the AEBS to connect wirelessly to the DSL modem. The AEBS serves the attached USB printer and any computers connected via wired connection. In other words you could make the printer wireless. I'm not certain this feature is supported in the AEBS but I believe it is. The problem, I think, is that both the DSL Modem and the AEBS are providing Network Address Translation (NAT). Also known as double NAT. NAT is what allows a router (such as is part of the AEBS and DSL modem) to make a whole network of computers on the LAN side appear as a single IP address on the WAN side. The DSL modem's WAN side is connected to the Internet. The DSL modem's LAN side is connected to the BW and the AEBS's WAN side. The AEBS's LAN side is connected to all the other computers and the AEBS's print server. What you have then are the Internet and two discrete LANs which have limited access to each other. The BW is isolated on a network that can only see the Internet via the DSL modem. What you are trying to do is create a single LAN. To do this you need to get a 5 or 8 port 10/100 switch. They are pretty cheap and can be purchased at most places that sell computers and related equipment. You connect the switch to the DSL modem, each computer and the LAN side of the AEBS. You will also need to configure the AEBS to not do NAT, DHCP or wireless. Alternatively you could leave the DSL modem connected to the AEBS and put the switch between the AEBS LAN port and the computers. This avoids having to reconfigure the AEBS but it does mean you will be doing double NAT still. It will cause a slight speed penalty on Internet access and can be a configuration problem waiting to happen, especially if you don't understand it. Since I am not that network savvy I think I just realized the solution to my own problem. I'll simply make one of the computers wireless and then I don't need to worry about not having access to either printer. I'm looking at a Belkin or Airlink (both PCI). Anyone have any experience using USB wireless adapters on a Mac? Are they reliable? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On 26/01/10 7:58 PM, Chance Reecher cnrtechh...@gmail.com wrote: Glad G4s are still cutting it for you. They don't for me anymore. Between today's internet (flash), multitasking, gaming, and video/graphics work, I need Intel. I'm not saying that G4s aren't totally useless though. I have 2 DAs running as servers, and an MDD hooked up to a projector for watching TV and movies online. I just need the increased speed of Intel for my day-to-day computing. I hear you brother. I have an upgraded G4 Sawtooth for my daughter (1.6GHz CPU, 1.5GB RAM, 802.11 G wifi PCI card) and it was great when it was being used for day to day work stuff. But have it play online kid's flash games from Treehouse or Disney and it laaagsss. I have an Airport Extreme base station about 1/2 a meter from it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
It's was the same when people asked, Why don't you just throw away that IIsi? The IIsi can still run MS Word 4, boots up quicker than any PPC and Intel Mac I know of and if you can still find a use for the thing then it ain't dead. Surfing the web with it is tricky, but it was my main computer up until 1999 when I bought a BW. I use it with my special needs students running old edu software that is simple and way better (IMO) than what's currently out there for the newer systems. Also with 64MB, playing Marathon is still a hoot. As for the G's, as stated above and others have mentioned they are not dead until people can't find any use for them. With all these newer versions of the same apps, what other bells and whistles do you need to write a letter or a novel or make a card? E-mail is still text based and never needed any fancy graphics (although Jobs would like you to think otherwise). JPEG's and Gif's and PNGs can still be viewed by older PPC's. I can still view most web sites (unless they're frickin' IE specific! DAMN Winbloze IT at work) and surfing the internet will become more dangerous? For PPC Macs? Since when? Anyway if you want your BW to run faster simply upgrade the processor (o/c it if you want to 600 max.) and max out the RAM. Mine runs Tiger quite efficiently and it's used more for entertainment and storage. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MS Office (Word) memory question
Hey folks, I have a 2.3GHZ dual core G5 running Leopard (latest) and 5.5 GB of RAM. I've been having trouble with MS Office 2008 (w/latest update) especially in Word when working with a document containing graphics. My situation last night: I was working in MS Word on a document containing 2 images. My font sizes were from 12 to 28 (Candara and Snell Rounded). The document was about 1.1MB in size. I also had another doc opened that I was using for information. I had Safari opened as I was searching for images. I had Entourage opened as the other Word doc was sent to me via e-mail. I had Fireworks opened as I was editing the graphics used in the doc. I noticed that Word was getting slower than usual. With the two docs opened I couldn't seem to switch between the two docs; I could only see the one on top (I could still switch between apps). I tried to preview the main doc I was working on and I kept getting an error message saying that I was out of memory...I have 5.5 GB! Then Word would crash (luckily I saved the docs). With 5.5GB of RAM I thought that would be enough to handle all the apps I had opened. 2008 seems to be more buggy than 2004. I also noticed that in 2008 when I am choosing an art motif for my borders the list of art borders scrolls at a turtle's pace. Anyone know what's going on or how to speed up MS Office? 5.5GB should be enough right? BTW I did a full run of Apple Jack just in case, to clear out my caches and tune up the G5. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will any usb/vga KVM switch work?
On 05/01/10 3:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking at some cheap KVM switches on ebay, will they work? or do I need a mac compatible version $$$? Jeff If it doesn't require any software to switch between computers then it should work. I have seen one or two switches that included software to switch between computers, but most of them don't require any software at all. I'm using a 4 port USB KVM switch right now from Trendnet that has buttons on the KVM switch (model TK-407). I've got an IBM P4, my trusty old BW and my cheese grater G5. Knock on wood, it works flawlessly. Previous to this I had an I/O Gear 2 port USB KVM switch. You had to use the keyboard to switch computers. It worked okay, but sometimes it would drop the connection and I would have to fiddle with the connections on the back of the computers to get it connected again. I seem to prefer the ones with the switch buttons on the switch itself. Also regarding your later question about whether the mouse needed to be attached to the switch, on the I/O Gear KVM switch you had to connect the mouse to the switch or it wouldn't work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bluray revisited
On 21/12/09 3:59 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: You mentioned an HDMI connector? Then yes all you need is a player. Sounds pretty good to me, what about audio does the Bluray player connect to my stereo. also can I play an image thru the player or is a disk necessary? As Bruce was saying all you need is the stand-a-lone player connected to your screen via HDMI. IF your screen has built-in speakers then no you do not need external speakers, the HDMI connection should be able to carry the sound as well. However if you want that theatre experience then just connect the audio out from the player to a decent sound system. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Next for PPC?
On 02/09/09 12:29 AM, Ralph Green sfrea...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Howdy CoolKat, Yes, I was referring to the Intel laptops. The PPC laptops seem to have been solid designs, for the most part. I just got a G3/700 iBook and it works very well and looks very nice. I have seen speculation that Apple let Intel design at least the first generation of x86 laptops, since Apple had so much to deal with during the transition and Intel may not have been as focused on quality as Apple was. I don't know what the problem was, and I have not followed it closely. Mainly, I remember seeing consumer surveys that showed very high failure rates for the x86 Apple laptops and that is where I got that impression from. I believe the Apple desktops came out as one of the best, so it is not a overall x86 Apple problem. I have several friends with recent Apple laptops. The failure rate among that group has been high, too. Good day, Ralph Actually, the G3/700 iBook did have hardware issues especially with the video. There was a replacement program in place for awhile to fix the video problems they were experiencing, so even the old iBooks had quality issues (check your serial number regarding the video problem). Now the clamshells and Powerbooks were solid laptops IIRC. As for the intel books, there have been reports of high failure rates among them. Knock on wood, but my wife's Macbook Pro (early 2008) has been working well up to now with only one issue... Airport Extreme. I was using an SMC router and her Macbook, for the life of it couldn't hold the signal consistently. It was like playing Airport roulette and you had to pray to the wireless gods to get a connection on some days. The old iBook had no problem connecting anywhere in the house. After going on the Apple discussion forums I saw that the Airport issue with the Macbooks was a common thread. I finally replaced the SMC with a Airport Extreme base station. The Macbook connects fine now, but the iBook had problems because of WPA and this was an issue because I used the old iBook as my wireless adapter for my Xbox 360. Thankfully I discovered some weird mix WEP and WPA/WPA2 on the base station and now both books connect happily. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Posting etiquette?
On 31/08/09 11:53 AM, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: Dan, Somebody made you the God of posting etiquette? Trim? Sure I did that. Bottom post? Only for people who want to re-read everything. Man are we on this topic again?! I thought the last time postiquette came up as a topic the nannies took it out back and put it out of it's misery. This is the topic that never dies... =P On a side note... see my next post. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Next for PPC?
So now that we've been orphaned or actually abandoned (Apple didn't die), do we happily chug along under Tiger/Leopard hoping that at least Firefox will keep updating PPC versions? How many more updates to Safari can we theoretically expect before PPC is no longer supported? Do we all jump ship and swim to to a different OS (Linux) ? Is there a future for Chrome OS and PPC? Just wondering. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 28/08/09 12:40 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey everyone, I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when I'm reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too??? With all my knowledge and all the yrs I have been using Apples Tiger can run on a G4 without any problems but a G3 it will run very slow... Can someone help me out here to understand what's up??? Well the mobo started with a G3 CPU (i.e. the BW), but the CPU can be upgraded to a G4. HOWEVER the mobo is still the original mobo that had the G3 CPU. This can cause other issues such as not being able to boot from a target disk via firewire or RAM limitations or even CPU speed limitations. So it's always good to indicate the original makeup of your system and then include any upgrades you've done to it so people here can get a better understanding of how to respond to issues or questions. With certain upgrades (RAM, graphics card, even overclocking) a G3 can run Tiger very well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 29/08/09 11:31 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey Arnel, thanks for that info!!! I guess there is no way to do this on a 466 clamshell with 576mb??? Because Panther was way too slow on that machine for me so I down graded it to Jaguar... I ended up buying a used G4 Titanium Powerbook 1000mhz with 1000mb and a 100g HD so I can keep up with all these new websites and videos etc etc etc that have out dated my iBook... They tell me I can run OSX 10.5 Lep on my new machine, do you think this would be wise because of it not being an Intel based Mac??? I really miss my clamshell I put the guts of a 466 in my Indigo 366 and even did the DVD drive by taring off the indigo face from the CD drive of the 366 and siliconed it on!!! That machine was a great machine and served me well and still runs great!!! I have a G3/700 iBook and I found Tiger to be a bit slow, but still usable. However, streaming video on it, with it's now ancient graphic processor, is choppy. Your Ti-book should be able to handle Tiger quite well. As for Leopard, it was built for both Intel and PPC (G4/G5), but I had it on my G4/1.6 GHz Gigabit Ethernet Mac (1.5GB RAM) and it felt slower than Tiger so I went back to Tiger. Also my G4 has a 256MB graphics card. I would stick with Tiger on your TiBook. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On 15/08/09 11:49 AM, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: freinds, romans, countrymen, i come to praise the G5, not bury them. i wonder how many of the posters above who can't wait for Apple to abandon the G5 actually understand chip architecture. i had a G5 for high-end computational work. tasks that take days, weeks, and sometimes even months to execute. unfortunately, it died of a flaky logic board. so as a stop gap, i began using a QS 933, and i grabbed the first used intelmac that i came across at a reasonable cost, because the newest version of the app i use is intel only. to my not so great surprise, given the exact same task, the single processor QS 933 w/ a 133MHz bus speed is still about 25% faster than the core-duo intelmac. maybe, and i mean maybe with a capital MAYBE, the newest intel nehalem processors will finally catch up to where the G4 was ten years ago, but i'm not holding my breath. so call me stoopid if you like, but i'm buying a used G5 to for $500 to replace the one that died instead of a nehalem for $5000. i'll let all of the smart folks above shell out their money so they can claim to have the newest and best. ah...clem As many of us have said in the past, if you have a use for it, then it ain't dead! When most of you were already playing around with the PPC architecture, I was still humbly using my IIsi with it's 20MHz 68030 processor, 17MB of RAM (currently at 64MB) and OS 7.1. It got me through university, wedding invitations, tonnes of office work, reports and the internet (Eudora and Mosaic) all the way through 1999... about 8 solid years without fail. I declared it in a coma once I got my brand new BW. It's currently packed away. My BW gave me about 7 solid years of work and tinkering (it's now a 500MHz G4 BW overclocked to 600MHz with 1GB RAM, 120GB of hard drive space, and a 128MB graphic card) until I was able to buy a brand new G5 Powermac. The BW runs Tiger and serves as a file backup system and iTunes jukebox. To me, it ain't dead. I find Tiger and Leopard to be solid OSes. How many more bells and whistles do we really need? Look at the Office suites, they've become so bloated. The early MS Word versions used only a few MB of RAM to run. To me there's no need to buy a new Mac just so I can install Snow Leopard since the G5 is doing just fine. There are still lots of apps out there for the PM. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Open Office
On 10/08/09 12:55 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:06 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: I just went on the Open Office site to download their PPC version. Funny thing though was that when you mouse over the Download Open Office button it says version 3.1.0 for PPC, but then you go through a list of versions for all systems and the PPC version available for English is 2.4.0. Anyone else experienced this problem? I thought they'd fixed that by now...here's the PPC port: http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/aqua.html Thanks Bruce! I installed it and yeah it does seem faster than NeoOffice as others have mentioned. Hopefully one of these will become my sole Office app... dare I say so long MS? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iBook G3/700 Ubuntu experiment
On 08/08/09 8:48 AM, Mark chris...@fuse.net wrote: That version of Ubuntu is not the latest and greatest - but yeah the latest and greatest still isn't exactly ready for the masses. Adobe plug ins for Linux are distributed the same as for Mac Windows. Not sure why that was a problem. I'd be happy just to have an iBook G3 700 that worked. :-) Really? I went back to their site and that's the latest version (Jaunty Jackalope 9.04) for both Intel and PPC. Ubuntu recommends NOT to install the plugins from the 3rd party companies, but to go through their app installer. Also I did try to install it through Adobe and there was a problem with the Linux plugin installing on a PPC. I also remember having a problem with another plugin for something else and it was because the Linux version was CPU specific. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Open Office
I just went on the Open Office site to download their PPC version. Funny thing though was that when you mouse over the Download Open Office button it says version 3.1.0 for PPC, but then you go through a list of versions for all systems and the PPC version available for English is 2.4.0. Anyone else experienced this problem? Did they stop making English versions of Open Office for PPC or are they just late with the PPC version? I did see the OS X Intel version and there are PPC versions but for other languages. I downloaded the French version to try it out against NeoOffice. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iBook G3/700 Ubuntu experiment
Well I thought I'd give my old iBook G3 some new life by installing Jaunty Jackalope as I kept hearing about Ubuntu and how great it is. All I can say is if you're a regular Joe computer user, Linux is still not for you IMHO. I don't understand how an OS (Linux) after all these years and with all the past hype still seems like it's in the beta stages as an OS for the masses. Ease of use it ain't (well maybe just for Ubuntu as I haven't tried YDL in 4 years). As for Ubuntu, even with all the apps that are apparently out there for it, it really isn't meant for the PPC. I thought with the end of Apple's support for PPC that Linux was the way to go to get some extra life out of my old Macs especially with web browsers and their plugins. The OS did boot up the iBook much faster than Tiger and Panther, but aside from using Open Office, Firefox was sluggish and I spent hours hunting down plugins to make it work with certain sites i.e. Flash, Quicktime. Also a few plugins wouldn't install on a PPC. I still couldn't find any plugins for Flash and Quicktime. I even installed the ubuntu restricted packages. I got as a far as getting sound from movie trailers and a screen saver effect instead of the video. I don't know, the whole experience was frustrating at times and the old iBook felt sluggish with several apps. Someone had recommended Ubuntu over YDL because of the amount of apps out there. I say most people only need a few of the apps any way to get what they need done. In the end I installed Tiger and the iBook is actually working pretty smoothly. I installed NeoOffice over MS Office to see how much faster it is. I am impressed with it. I may try YDL some time in the future with maybe my G4/1.6GHz Powermac and see how that goes. iBook G3/700 648MB RAM 30GB hd --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
On 19/06/09 10:11 PM, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: new to this topic. perhaps i missed it in the deluge of replies, but it seems no one addressed the point of cost vs protocol (b or n). you said in your original post that you'll be using it with an airport extreme base station, but you neglected to say what other computers/ peripherals are connected to the base station. if all you are doing is connecting the base station to a DSL modem or a shared printer, and to other computers which are basically independent clients of the DSL and/or printer, then the older, cheaper, 802.11b card is already faster than the DSL, and probably faster than the printer, so you won't see any discernible difference in performance. on the other hand, if you are multi-tasking jobs, parallel processing, or otherwise transferring large amounts of data or huge files between computers constantly, then the faster card (n designation) will seem like day and night. The base station is connected to my DSL modem and my HP laserjet printer. I have one Macbook Pro and G3 iBook connected via Airport to the base station as well as a dual core G5 and an IBM PC with XP. I'm going to also connect my BW via ethernet to act as a central backup system/print server (inkjet printer). The Airport card or 3rd party PCI card will be for my daughter's G4 that I just upgraded. I'll be using Tiger and Leopard among the Mac systems. The price itself is not a factor since either one will cost the same. I just wanted to know if people experienced problems using a PCI wireless card either with Airport drivers or 3rd party OS X drivers. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
On 20/06/09 12:21 AM, iJohn zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:11 PM, ah...clemboneheads...@gmail.com wrote: new to this topic. perhaps i missed it in the deluge of replies, but it seems no one addressed the point of cost vs protocol (b or n). if all you are doing is connecting the base station to a DSL modem or a shared printer, and to other computers which are basically independent clients of the DSL and/or printer, then the older, cheaper, 802.11b card is already faster than the DSL, and probably faster than the printer, so you won't see any discernible difference in performance. I think I understand the point you're trying to make, but I also think I disagree with it. While on paper an 802.11b connection may be more than enough to handle the throughput of a DSL connection, it also doesn't leave a lot of buffer space. If the computer is always going to be 10 feet from the router with no signal barriers and the max throughput will always be limited to that of a DSL connection, then wireless b may be fine. But what if he decides to move the router or computer so they are now separated by a room or two or three. Suddenly what was borderline adequate becomes noticeably inadequate. Another reason IMO to avoid these ancient 802.11b devices is because the only security they may support is WEP. WEP has become such a joke that I believe no one bothers to talk about how to hack it. Instead they focus on finding the *fastest* way to hack it. There are how to articles out there you can easily find with Google. NEVER buy more horsepower than you are actually using right now. if you ever need more in the future, it will be cheaper (and probably better) then. Trying to go for the tightest fit to your current needs can also be a false economy. I think a better metric is the cost at the margin. If it costs you 5-10% more beyond your base cost to increase your performance by more than 100% then it may well be worth it to do that. Penny wise versus pound foolish and all that. I really don't know if I'd recommend that the OP go with wireless n at this point. He's never really said much about what he expects his network to look like. But at this point in time I also couldn't justify going with b unless the adapter is a total freebie and he has absolutely no concerns about who hacks into his wireless. A good enough g adapter is just not that expensive these days. -irrational john OP here, you make some very valid points IJ. As for the g adapters, they were about the same price as the n so was thinking why go with g when you can get n for the same price. My last post outlined my network. The G4 will be in the same room as the router so there won't be any concerns with distance. Again it's for my daughter's G4 and it's so she can play the online edutainment games and talk to her godmother in San Diego via Skype or iChat. I guess in terms of security you make a good point about WEP. I may go with the PCI card then. Thanks folks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
On 19/06/09 10:01 AM, Jason deftone...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello there. I just put an aftermarket pci wireless card into my sons dual G4 450 powermac. It is very stable, no drivers were needed and he gets fast internet upstairs in his room. Hope this helps Make? Model? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
On 17/06/09 10:40 PM, John Martz zjo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Arnel Tuazona.tua...@gmail.com wrote: Quick question: Which is better (more stable) an original Airport card (802.11b) or a PCI wireless card that is 802.11n ? IMO that's a question that can't really be answered as asked. I don't believe the stability of a connection has much to do with whether the protocol used is 802.11b or n. I wouldn't approach the question of what adapter to use this way. Thanks for the detailed answer, but my question wasn't really dealing with the protocol. I apologize if it seemed confusing, but what I was really asking was the stability of the TYPE of card being used i.e. Airport vs. PCI. The Airport card is Apple and Apple I trust, the PCI card is 3rd party Edimax nMax 802.11n PCI wireless card. Does anyone have any experience using a PCI wireless card on a G4 and if so how stable was it? I am using the latest Airport Extreme base station. 802.11n can be noticeably faster than 802.11b. But if you don't think things through ahead of time you might not realize the potential the marketeering types allege in their cryptic ad bites. That said, 802.11b is pretty well dead at this point in time and I wouldn't advise anyone to go that route unless they had very compelling reasons to do so. Or equivalently, compelling reasons why they would NOT want to go with 802.11n. The fact that you would be using an 802.11n capable router makes me wonder why on earth you'd stick with b. But I really don't know your context and doing so may very well make sense for you. The reason I was considering the original Airport card was that the G4 Gig-E has a built-in Airport card port. I know that on my old G3 iBook, the Airport card picks up the connection to the base station very well and it has no problems what so ever. If I go with the PCI route, even though there are OS X drivers, would there be potential problems with connecting to the base station? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
On 18/06/09 10:58 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 18, 2009, at 3:04 AM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: Thanks for the detailed answer, but my question wasn't really dealing with the protocol. I apologize if it seemed confusing, but what I was really asking was the stability of the TYPE of card being used i.e. Airport vs. PCI. The Airport card is Apple and Apple I trust, the PCI card is 3rd party Edimax nMax 802.11n PCI wireless card. Does anyone have any experience using a PCI wireless card on a G4 and if so how stable was it? They way you're describing it, there's no difference, but dropped connections, etc don't come about because of theninterface of the card, but the particulars of your given wireless networks. The only other thing would be the drivers for the card, and that's specific to the chipset, not the connection bus. Thanks Bruce! You kind of answered my question. Actually the post by Mike Baker also answered my question. His problem was a scenario I'm trying to avoid by going PCI. However the card in question says that it has OS X drivers whereas Mike's problem looks like he doesn't have the driver. Now does Airport Extreme (latest version) play nice with 3rd party wireless adapters (PCI or USB)? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G5 bad choice?
On 17/06/09 3:37 PM, Meghrouni Vince foomc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: A good friend who is much more computer savvy than me has advised me to sell it before getting it out of the box, that the G5 is at best highly problematic. I am aware that the next OS is leaving all but the intel behind, so that the G5 meant a commitment to a vestigal OS for a while, but I don't have the $ for the next step up. Thank goodness I bought an air-cooled model because subsequent research revealed a world of trouble with the liquid-cooled varieties). Please, if you would be so kind, share your experiences with the G5. What are the problems you've had and/or heard of? It depends on which dual you bought. Do you mean dual core or dual G5 processors? The dual G5 processors (2 actual G5 processors on a single mobo) had problems and I believe they had PCI-X slots. I have a dual-core 2.3GHz G5 that I bought back in 2007. These have the PCI-e slots. The ram for these are inexpensive as far as RAM goes and you can have a maximum of 16GB. I have had no trouble with it so far (knock on wood). Yes your friend is right that all Powermacs will be abandoned by Apple with Snow Leopard, however if you're not into having the latest and greatest then Leopard itself will suffice. Editing and burning home movies has been so much LESS cumbersome since I got my G5. I used to work on a BW modded with a G4 and oc'd to 600MHz - huge difference with the computing power. A lot of listers have expressed their anger/disappointment with Apple regarding the intel only requirement for 10.6, but aside from video editing and photography, I'm mostly surfing the web, reading e-mail or using Office so I'll stick with Leopard for now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G5 bad choice?
On 17/06/09 4:56 PM, Meghrouni Vince foomc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: It is a dual core, late 2005 series. Sounds like good news to me. I don't like the idea of not being able to keep up with the latest OS, but that's my own lack of computer savvy considering my own needs. My uses are similar to your stated uses, except I don't do video editing. If I started with some video editing, however, it would advance some of my causes. The plan is also to do audio work via Pro Tools on this machine as well, and to my knowledge that will not require being down with the latest and greatest OS. This machine was meant to keep me in the digital world until I can get on board with the Intel. At $650 I figured it would give me processing power, memory, etc., to do what I intended to do until I had the dough to make the next step. The hope was that I'd get a good three or four year run. Maybe this wasn't such a naive idea? Thanks for your extremely useful input. One thing I do believe I've learned is that I don't know enough about this stuff to be buying used computers. Vince The thing with Macs is they were always built with foresight. Apple always seem to predict what was going to be needed in the future. Look at USB, when the BW came out people were saying that Apple took a gamble going USB only (although they did include one ADB port for use with old school keyboards and track pads). Now everything is USB. Your G5 (I'd get more RAM if I were you) should last you at least 3 more years before you'd start considering a new machine. You'll be just fine using Pro Tools with your G5. As I said before always consider what you will use your machine for before you buy it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard drive plate and screw
On 31/05/09 5:02 AM, ron ronstei...@mac.com wrote: On May 30, 7:54 pm, Arnel Tuazon a.tua...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know how to get the screws out? As of now only the center hard drive plate can be removed the others are stuck with the damaged screw heads. Use a sharp edged tool like a small chisel to score a nock from the screwdriver slot to the edge of the screw head. Then, use a small hammer and the edge of a flat blade screwdriver to drive the damaged screw around and around until it comes loose. Be careful placing the edge of the screwdriver blade in the nock that you created so that it will push against the nock instead of slipping out. You might want to use the chisel instead of a flat blade screwdriver since it already fits the nock you made. Be sure that any screw that you use as a replacement has fine threads instead of coarse threads. Thanks! I'll try it today. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 upgrade opinions welcomed
On 30/05/09 6:44 PM, Eric Volker evol...@gmail.com wrote: On May 30, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Paul wrote: The less expensive G5's and Intels are cheap enough to compete with those third party G4 upgrades, and you end up with a much more powerful machine. Like others have said, I think your best bet is to go with a new G5 (either an iMac or Powermac.) Dual G5's are relatively cheap (i got my dual 1.8 GHz G5 for $400, after a discount for some case damage.) I started out with a Sawtooth and upgraded to a 1GHz G4 from OWC (eshop.macsales.com.) Even though it made a considerable difference, I felt it still was too slow compared to my PCs even after overclocking it to 1.3GHz. So I upgraded to the dual G5, and the performance was *much* better. If you do go that route, remember to feed your new G5 plenty of RAM, especially if you load Leopard. In the States the older systems are cheaper, but up here in Canada I'm looking at twice the price for that dual G5. Also I don't want another system in the house on top of the newly acquired G4. The study is getting too cluttered and the wife is giving me the evil eye. I'll probably go for the Sonnet due to budget. It'll complete my setup of G3-G5 Macs: a BW G3, a Gig-e G4, and a dual-core G5 PM (as well as a G3/700 iBook thrown into the mix). Thanks all for the advice! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Hard drive plate and screw
Hey folks, I just noticed that the G4 Gig-e Mac I have has a problem with 2 of the hard drive plates. You know the metal plates that you attach the hard drives to and then in turn attach these plates inside the bottom of the G4 case. Each plate has one screw that keeps it in place inside the case. I noticed that the screw for 2 of the plates has been damaged. The head of each screw has been damaged to the point where no screw driver bit could ever snugly fit into it to allow you to unscrew the plate. Anyone know how to get the screws out? As of now only the center hard drive plate can be removed the others are stuck with the damaged screw heads. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 upgrade opinions welcomed
Hey folks, I am planning on upgrading a recently acquired G4 Gigabit PM. I'm looking at either the Sonnet Encore 1.6GHz or Newer Tech's MAXPower 1.6 GHz. I need opinions on which to get. First does anyone know if both are 7447 models? I know the MAXPower is (it says so on the site), but is the Encore also 7447 or 7448? Secondly is there a difference at all between the two? I'm leaning towards the Sonnet because it is slightly cheaper. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 upgrade opinions welcomed
On 29/05/09 2:06 PM, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: I've had great experiences with Sonnet upgrades. Their hardware, software and tech support is first class. Having said that, are you sure you want to invest $200 in such an outdated machine? You can probably find an Apple DP 500 MHz processor for around $50 and, if you max out the RAM, you'll run 10.4.11 nicely. Save up for an Intel Mac; the 1.83 core2duo's are going for around $400 now. Yeah, but the G4 Gigabit was free. Also the fact that it's NOT an Intel is why I want to update before investing in an Intel Mac. I'm a bit sentimental when it comes to PPC Macs. All my Macs save for the IIsi and my wife's Macbook are PPC. When I do switch to the Intel Macs I'm going for a new Mac Pro. I just bought a 256MB nVidia AGP card. I going upgrade the RAM to a min. of 1GB (not sure if I'll go higher). I want to run Tiger on it for my daughter, but still be able to run OS 9 for the educational software I still have collecting dust. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
PM G5 webcam
Anyone have any suggestions for a webcam for my PM G5? I'm running OSX 10.5.6. I wanted an iSight, but ebay seems to be selling them for triple their original price. I have heard that USB 2.0 cams work now with OS X. I wanted it for video chatting with family in the U.S. Thanks in advance! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Weird screen saver issue.
Hey folks, I noticed a problem yesterday with my screen saver. I've set my screen saver to collage using my iPhoto library. The screen saver works during the first time period of inactivity, but after it's used again and then left inactive, the screen saver reverts to the computer name screen saver. I don't have random screen saver set and I've made sure that library is chosen. I've also used Applejack to clean the system, but it's doing the same thing again. Anyone know what is going on? Thanks in advance! 2.3GHz dual core G5 PM 5.5 GB RAM Leopard 10.5.6 230GB left on hd --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple jumped the shark...
On 05/03/09 8:55 PM, Stephen Weber maryland...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Toshiba A205-S5803 running Windows Vista with 2GB ram, 250GB hard drive, with a intel Pentium Duel Core (1.6GHz). I've had this computer for around a half of a year and so far the only problem I've had is the the left arrow key is broken. But nothing a little tape would can fix :) and I would have to disagree with that statement of saying PC's die out. Sure my dad's computer that is close to 8 years old is slow but that's because there is a whole lot of crap on it. I'm sure if you load up a whole lot of crap on a Mac it will slow down a bit. We also have a 11 year old Compaq that still runs like new. Also I do say I can't afford a new Mac but that's why I buy my macs used and just upgrade them. Yeah, but the Toshiba¹s and Compaq¹s can¹t run on Leopard; mini¹s can run on both OSes. I¹ve bought cheap PC¹s and you usually do get what you pay for. The cheap PC running XP that I¹m toying with has been nothing but trouble getting it to run stable. Adobe Reader makes it crash, anti-virus programs make it crash, Winbloze makes it crash, anyone who looks at it makes it crash. My Mac IIsi has been running since 1992 when it was bought new. My BW has been chugging along since 1999. The Toshiba laptop I used to own was sent into the shop 2x for screen failure just 1 year after it was bought new. To be fair you certainly can¹t lump ALL PC¹s as crap and there are the crop of ³road Apples² out there. There are some good makes of PC¹s, but the good ones seem to be tiny islands in an ocean of crap. Working, updating, installing stuff on Winbloze drives me nuts. OS X is heaven and that¹s what you don¹t get on your cheap PC¹s. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A once in an epoch event!
Now that's cool... =) On 04/02/09 2:23 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Check it out! Better than watching your first car's odometer roll over! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/04/unix_timestamp_milestone/ :) - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iTunes 8.0.2 Rio S10 problem
Hey folks, I posted this problem on the Apple discussion forums for iTunes, but so far no solutions. I hope someone here can help with this problem. I have a PM 2.3GHz dual core G5 with 5.5 GB RAM, it's running on OS X 10.5.6. I have a Rio S10 mp3 player that worked great with iTunes up until iTunes was updated to 8.0.2. Now when the Rio is plugged in and turned on while iTunes is running, the whole system crashes. I get the dreaded grey screen of death with the multiple languages that tells you your system crashed. My only solution right now is to boot into Tiger using my second drive and use iTunes there. The weird part is it's the same version of iTunes (8.0.2)! The Rio works great while in Tiger, it's Leopard with 8.0.2 that has an issue with it. Anyone have any suggestions besides booting into Tiger to update the Rio? Anyone have any idea why the system might be crashing with this latest version of iTunes under Leopard? Thanks in advance! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears
On 03/10/08 7:20 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have had a number of iMac G3s and these smell terrible of burning. I changed the plastics on one recently and whilst testing it afterward smelt so bad of burning plastic I thought I had done something wrong. But my sons iMac G3 smells just as bad. On the other hand my BW, after all these years, has never given off any odour. My PM G5 tower and my wife's Macbook Pro emit no scent at all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
