Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping

[dc]

It's significant that it ran OK until you opened it up, set it on its side, 
etc.  The panic might simply be that a RAM stick got dislodged; try pulling 
and reseating all the pieces.  But even if that gets it started it sounds 
like you should still be seeking a refund.
 
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:27:02 PM UTC-5, glenstrek wrote:

>
> Left it sit overnight without power and the side cover off, exposed side 
> down on workbench with tissue paper under the LCS to check for leaks. No 
> drips or wet areas on tissue paper the next morning. Rebooted and checked 
> back in an hour or so to find a panic screen. Now it no longer boots. No 
> start up chime, the fans start to rev and then rev down (< 1 sec) and stay 
> down, blank screen.
>
> Not good! power supply issue? Damaged CPU's? Any thoughts?
>

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Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping

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On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:06:03 PM UTC-5, glenstrek wrote:
>
> The case got bent, the hard drive and video card were dislarged on 
> arrival. How hard is it to take all guts out of this G5 and reassemble in a 
> new case? Any propriety tools needed?
>
I bought one with a bent case several years ago, it looked just like yours 
and it was far cheaper than a pristine one.  My solution, which I highly 
recommend, was to purchase a 27" monitor and hide the G5 behind it!  Worked 
great!  But being the anal-retentive sort that I am I eventually got out a 
bunch of large clamps and wrenches and went to work straightening the bent 
aluminum.  That worked pretty well cosmetically but since the rivets 
were popped (like yours are) the case wasn't 100% stable; still I ran it 
like that a few years.  Finally I got a good used case at a great price and 
transplanted all the "guts".  What a PIA, unless you really like tinkering 
with things it's very frustrating but not impossible.  The only special 
tool needed is a very long 2.5 mm torx driver, I found a 10" one at Ace 
Hardware (Eklind 10" 2.5 mm torx #54925).  Looking back at it I probably 
should have stuck with my first solution.

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Re: Mac Hovercraft (death of a PowerBook)

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>
> Just got She Who Must Be Obeyed a shiny new iPad3 for her birthday and 
> she's pleased as punch with it, just terrified of handling it 'naked', so 
> I'm investigating a seriously armored cover like an Otterbox or something. 
> I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>

I'm a big fan fan of the Otter Box.   A few months ago my wife laid her 
iPhone down on our driveway... black driveway, black iPhone, black Otter 
Box..   and then she got upset when I ran over it with my truck.  She 
calmed down when she found the iPhone still worked.  When we took the case 
off the phone still looked brand new, although the Otter Box needed a 
little scrubbing to get the tire marks off.

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Re: Bringing G3 back into use

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Maxxing the RAM is always a good idea but this machine needs low
profile sticks or the case may not close.

On Jun 11, 2:01 pm, Valter Prahlad 
wrote:
>

> After you solve the issue, I'd suggest you to add some more ram: 64MB is
> pretty tight. 256 or, better, 512MB, and OS8 should fly.
> You can use common PC Ram sticks, SDRam Dimm, PC66, PC100 or PC133

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Re: water in the laptop....

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Some newer clothes dryers come with a sweater rack that clips into the
dryer without tumbling.  When my wife spilled water on her Dell laptop
I opened it up and placed it on the dryer rack at a low setting for a
couple of hours.  I figured it was safe enough for wool sweaters so it
should be OK for a laptop.  Might be a little safer than the oven.


On Feb 22, 12:28 am, "David W. Morris"  wrote:
> I dropped my cell phone into a swimming pool once about 5 > 6 years
> ago, and it took me a few minutes to fish it out.  It was still on, so
> I turned it off and removed the battery.  I placed it in the oven and
> set the temperature to 100 degrees (or maybe it was 120 degrees) for
> about 1 or 2 hours and then let it cool down.  >
> Insert your open laptop into the Oven at low temperature at your own
> risk, but hopefully, after you have dried it out thoroughly, it will
> come to life again.  You might need to replace the battery.

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Re: water in the laptop....

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...and after you dry it out buy her a $2.00 keyboard cover.

On Feb 20, 4:41 pm, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> My daughter spilled some water into her Mac laptop.  What should she
> do now to dry things out?  The Mac did not shut-down after the
> accident, but her screen went haywire.  The Mac is presently turned
> offin a keyboard down position with a fan blowing on it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry

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On Jan 10, 11:37 pm, seeker  wrote:
> might again have one of these bad boys lined up for myself, and before
> i forgo an install of slackintosh, i would like to ask the g-
> men...  what if any would be the ideal version of macOS x to
> install on g3 b&w with maxed ram?  i am a huge fan of opensource, but
> i have fallen head over heals for mac osx and would like to keep these
> machines as such  so any help?

A few years ago I tried to see how much I could get out of an old
Smurf. I put in a Sonnet G4 500 MHz processor upgrade, a SCSI card
with a pair of 15K stripped RAID drives, and a GeForce 6200 PCI video
card flashed with a custom Mac ROM. I added an extra case fan to blow
out the heat from the drives. It runs Tiger very well and is useful
for a  lot of everyday tasks.

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Re: Magsafe Power Adapter mod. A1344, need help

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On Jan 11, 4:15 pm, willy  wrote:
> I have been asked to fix or replace this adapter.
> Have any of you worked on one?
> If I can't fix, do any of you have one for sale?Thanks
> Wm.

Check the Other World Computing used/demo page.

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Re: How do I block outgoing connections in Safari?

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On Dec 30, 8:24 pm, Dan  wrote:
> Paranoia is sometimes a bad thing.  Blocking CDNs can destroy your
> whole surfing experience.
> - Dan.
> --
> - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

Thanks for the rational explanation Dan, for a Psychoceramic Emeritus
you are remarkably non-paranoid! I was mainly concerned because these
were outgoing, not incoming, activities. When I shut down Pandora and
cleared all website data most of the activity stopped. That makes
sense to me, Pandora is constantly running pop-up ads and collecting
data about the music I select. Even with just this page open I still
get 6 different connections (Activity Monitor shows only this page).
So I guess I'll try to be calm about 1.amazonaws.com,
akamaitechnologies.com, iad04s01-in, etc.  Maybe a little medicinal
champagne is in order for me this evening.

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How do I block outgoing connections in Safari?

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After reading over one of the topics in this list I installed "Private
Eye". What a mistake! Now I'm paranoid! There are scores of outgoing
connections, including amazonaws.com. How do I disable or remove them?
ClamAV shows the system is clean but there seems to be a lot of
unauthorized activity going on.

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Re: Quicksilver optic drive

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On Dec 22, 1:25 am, Roger Faulkner  wrote:
> m8493 drive won't open. HD wiped and went to install new OS. Pro, Chicklet
> and Mcally keyboards all fail to open drive. No paper clip access. Ideas?
 The optical drive does have a paper clip access hole, it's just
difficult to get to it. You can try
1) pulling down on the outer drive door cover while applying gentle
pressure with your fingertips. If you can get the door open this way
you can see the access hole.
2) open the side of the G4, twist the optical drive 90 degrees
sideways while leaving the power and IDE cable connected, load the
disc, then put the drive back in place.

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Re: keyboard shortcut

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On Dec 16, 11:38 am, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:>
> I want to create a shortcut that puts my DA to sleep.

"Option-Command-Eject" or "Option-Command-Power" = Sleep

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Re: hacking for a slimmer world

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On Nov 15, 9:01 pm, "Stephen E. Bodnar"  wrote:
> I'll keep my ears open. We live up on Purtov now and have a pretty
> active feeder, but Switgard and Lars will be over in Germany for
> Christmas.  If somebody wants to sit in our kitchen drinking hot
> buttered rums and counting birds, that's OK too.

I forgot to mention, this is the most random Mac advice I've read i a
long time!

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Re: hacking for a slimmer world

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On Nov 15, 12:21 pm, Jesse  wrote:
> So what are the best drives and cards for scsi?

I agree with Dan, a SATA PCI card and 10K SATA (Raptor) drive is fast
and reusable in G5, MacPro, and PC machines. I do think SCSI drives
are cheaper right now. There are ATTO UL2x and UL3x cards for under
$25, 15K 36GB drives also around $25. They can also be reused in G5s
and other machines. The advantage of SCSI drives over IDE isn't so
much in the transfer speed as it is in the latency & seek/read/write
times. I don't have specific benchmarks now as I'm onto a MacPro, all
my SCSI machines are in storage (I probably should give them away).
But I've put fast SCSI drives in Macs from a 7200, beige G3, Smurf G3,
PCI G4, AGP G4s, etc. and they have always made noticable real world
speed improvement.

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Re: hacking for a slimmer world

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On Nov 11, 2:09 am, "Jesse St.John" 
wrote:
> alright everyone i am using leopard 10.5.8 on a dp 1.25mhz mdd with 2
> gigs of ram, any tweaks that you would suggest, any ways to go about
> kernel hacking and trimming my system?

The easiest, cheapest and safest things to do with your MDD:
1. Download and run Monolingual. You can trim more than 2 GB of
unneccesary languages and architectures out your OS, it will run much
better. It's free.
2. SCSI PCI cards and SCSI hard drives are cheap now that most people
are using SATA or SSDs. A 15K SCSI drive with a 16 MB cache is an
awesome upgrade, around $50.00 for used 73 GB drives.
3. If you add another hard drive (of any kind) and use Carbon Copy
Cloner to clone your original drive it will defrag everything in the
process of cloning. Apple claims you don't need to defrag OS X but I
always felt mine ran better after using TechTool Pro to defrag files.

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Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

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I'm up and running again. Thanks for all the great tips! I pulled out
just about everything: RAM, PCI cards, video card, then put in the OEM
video card and base RAM. While I was at it I put in a fresh PRAM
battery. I found the SMC reset button just above the RAM trays,
pressed it for 10 seconds. It started up normally and seems to be
running well. I haven't started putting my upgrade components back in
yet but I'm hoping they are all OK, I think the reset button is what
really fixed things.

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Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

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That's good to hear, I hope the APC did it's job and the mobo isn't
damaged. Gee, you mean I can't believe everything I read on the
internet?!?!?


> Well "on the internet" and real life experience are two different things...we 
> have used them here for years for hundreds of systems. They work well, with 
> the caveat that we normally spec their SmartUPS systems. The cheapest 
> SmartUPS is around $300; but if it keeps a $10K server running, it's worth it.
The low-end gear is, well, low end. The base BackUPS systems are
essentially surge protectors with battery failover, heir to the fail-
UNsafeness of surge protectors...eventually surge protectors stop
protecting.
> SO yeah a lot of the criticism is justified,but it's also painted on with a 
> broad brush,. and frankly, having tried others, even Tripp-lite, I'll take 
> APCs over any others.

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Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

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On Oct 14, 10:27 am, Dan  wrote:
> Reset the pram and nvram.http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379
> Try booting with the shift key held down.
> If you hold down the option key, does the boot selector come up?
> Disconnect all external peripherals except keyboard, mouse, and display.
>
> Perhaps try disconnecting the internal boot volume/drive, and try
> booting on an external?

Thanks for the reply, Dan. I tried disconnecting peripherals and
resetting the PRAM, that's actually what the computer sounds like it's
doing with the chime repeating ad nauseum. Safe boot (shift key) or
boot options (option key) have no effect. The screen stays dark and
the chime keeps cycling. I'll pull all the internal drives this
weekend (an act of despiration) but I don't think I'm getting past the
firmware startup to the point where the drives would kick in. I'm
really disappointed that this seems to have been caused by the power
fluctuation because I was hooked up to an APC surge/battery backup,
but from what I've been seeing on the internet not many people seem to
think highly of APC.

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No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

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I have a bad feeling about this...
After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac
desktop.  I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again
and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding keys- option,
shift-command-option-delete, command-option-o-f, etc.- has no effect,
it just keeps repeating the startup chime. I've had a number of
different Mac desktops over the years and I've never run across this
phenomenon. Can anyone help me figure out what the problem might be?
The computer was connected to a UPC battery backup surge protector at
the time and I was using it; as soon as I saw the UPC alert I went to
the Apple menu and shut the machine down normally.
The computer is an Intel-based MacPro (1,1) but I am wondering if
anyone ever had a similar problem, say with a G5 running Leopard?

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Re: Airport card password

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On Sep 21, 9:22 am, Norm  wrote:
> Received an airport card for my G4 deck top mac and it installed OK
> but it wants a pass word. I have tried all the ones I know.

Many major brand routers ship with the generic "password" as the
password until you manually change it.

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Re: Airport card password

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On Sep 21, 9:22 am, Norm  wrote:
> Received an airport card for my G4 deck top mac and it installed OK
> but it wants a pass word. I have tried all the ones I know.

Many major brand routers ship with the generic "password" as the
password until you manually change it.

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Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?

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On Sep 11, 8:35 am, Doc  wrote:
> Hi guys, first time posting! Anyone know what the best possible
> graphics card a dual 1.42GHz MDD G4 (FW800) can support is? I've seen
> modded GeForce 7800s available but I have concerns about the power
> draw in a G4, as I believe the PSU is only rated at 400W.

I have a GeForce 7800GS in my MDD (dual 1.25 GHz) along with 2 optical
drives and 2 additional SATA drives; power is never a problem. Heat
is, when I upped to video card I needed to install the CPU control
panel to toggle single processor mode to keep everything cool.

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Re: ------ adding a pci-e video card to a g5 mac

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On Aug 3, 4:48 pm, imrazor  wrote:
> On Aug 3, 10:55 am, rumble  wrote:

> > i'd like to add an additional video card to my g5 mac, but it is pci-
> > e.

> I think your options are going to be very limited *adding* a video
> card. For upgrades, there should be at least a few available on eBay
> or perhaps LEM Swap. According to Everymac, the PCIe G5's only had one
> 16 lane PCIe slot, along with one 8 lane and two 4 lane slots. The
> problem is that most graphics cards require a 16 lane slot, and
> there's only one in your G5. That means replacing your existing card
> would be theoretically simple, but adding would not be.

You might be able to find a nVidia GeForce 7300GT pci-e on the swap
list. The early Mac Pros shipped with these and many people have since
upgraded their video card. When I added a Radeon 5870 to mine I moved
the GeForce card to the 8x slot and it works fine there as a second
card.

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Re: Virtual Snow Leopard in Lion?

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On Jul 21, 10:52 am, Rich  wrote:
> I'm pretty annoyed that Apple expects me to replace a lot of apps that
> have been reliable for years now that they are dropping Rosetta. It's
> too expensive to consider.
>
> I was wondering if a workaround might be to run a virtual copy of Snow
> Leopard within Lion?

VirtualBox works with Leopard and Snow Leopard Server versions. From
their website:

Mac OS X Server (Leopard, Snow Leopard) Works without Additions

I run Windows 7 and XP from VirtualBox on my MacPro and they seem just
a little slower than when I boot Windows from Bootcamp. I find
VirtualBox much more convenient than rebooting in Bootcamp.  I would
think you could pick up a used copy of Leopard Server pretty cheaply.

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Re: G3 Beige Tower Questions

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On Jul 11, 2:23 pm, iainnitro  wrote:
> I found this group via LEM, naturally.  I was looking up specs on my
> newly acquired G3 Beige Tower.  I am actually writing to find out if I
> can replace the SCSI (9 GB) Drive with a nice ATA adapter (and which
> one I need) so I can put at least an 80 GB drive into the box.

I have a G3 tower which I still occasionally use, I gave it an ATTO
express SCSI card and a 15K SCSI 68-pin hard drive. That setup is much
faster than any ATA drive and you won't be limited to a small boot
partition if you ever want to install Tiger. ATTO cards are available
for under $20, 15K SCSI (36 GB) drives can be had for under $40.

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Re: power supply - power on?

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On Jun 20, 10:03 pm, Valter Prahlad 
wrote:
> Il giorno 21-06-2011 4:00, dc ha scritto:
>
> > You can check the diagrams on this page:
> > file:///Users/Dave/Documents/Hardware/OutOfSpec.COM%20-%20Cut%20the%20red%2 
> > 0wi
> > re%20or%20the%20green%20one%3F!.webarchive
>
> It looks like you pasted a local path (i.e., on your computer), and not a
> valid URL (Web address).

Indeed!
http://www.outofspec.com/frankenmac/wire.shtml

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Re: power supply - power on?

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On Jun 20, 2:34 pm, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
> Just curious here... on power supplies that are installed in PC's  
> there is a bright green wire that can be connected to ground source  
> making the power supply "always on". is there such a wire in the  
> MDD power supply that when grounded, does the same thing? and if so,  
> what color is it? I have a power supply from an MDD that I'd like to  
> use for bench power if possible.

You can check the diagrams on this page:
file:///Users/Dave/Documents/Hardware/OutOfSpec.COM%20-%20Cut%20the%20red%20wire%20or%20the%20green%20one%3F!.webarchive
I've started Macs by momentarily jumping the power with a ground (pins
3 & 4 on the MDD) but I've never let them run very long that way.

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Re: Processor upgrade?

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It should work. A few MDDs came with only single processors but I
think the mobo was the same as the duals. The board should have a part
number printed on it that you can cross reference. I think I have a
heatsink from a MDD dual 1GHz lying around somewhere, "Reply to
author" if you need one.

On Jun 13, 4:00 pm, Heather Cotter  wrote:
> Hey,
>
>  So I'm pretty much building a Leopard-capable machine from scratch at
> this point. (First time doing so with a Mac! Only Frankensteined PCs
> before.)
>
>  Can anyone tell me whether this would be compatible with a G4 M8570
> logicboard?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250822734647
>  The seller didn't know, and while this website
> (http://www.dvwarehouse.com/Multiprocessor-Module-N5-for-Power-Mac-G4-...
> ) says it is, their customer service is so blatantly clueless in
> response to any and all questions, I'm reluctant to trust it.
>
>  Thanks for any help/advice,
> Heather

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Re: Jump-Starting a "Dead" G5

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OK, well, I'll be the first... I stuck a jumper wire between pins 2 &
13 and the "dead" G5 fired right up. Time to search for an affordable
used front panel switch assembly.

On Jun 9, 11:42 am, dc  wrote:
> A G5 (DP 2 GHz) purchased from the LEM swap list a few weeks ago
> worked quite well for a while, the only issue was the front USB port
> didn't work. A few days ago it just stopped powering up. The front
> power button gets me nothing, no chime, no LEDs, nothing. The power
> supply still makes the usual single click when I unplug it/plug it in,
> so I'm hoping it's just the front panel that's gone bad. I found a
> pinout that shows front panel pin #2 as ground and pin #13 as power
> button, so I'm thinking that if I momentarily bridge pins 2 + 13 it
> should bypass the front switch and start up the G5. I'm wondering if
> anyone has ever tried this? I'm not sure I want to be the first.

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Re: G4 Cube: possible processors?

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On Jun 10, 10:38 am, "Mac User #330250"  wrote:

> I finally got a G4 Cube from eBay, and since I've got so many feasible
> processor cards laying around I'd like to know if it was possible to upgrade
> the Cube with them.
>
> What I have:
> 1) a Dual-450 MHz G4 7400 from a Gigabit Ethernet
> 2) a Dual-800 MHz G4e 7450 from a Quicksilver
> 3) an OWC Mercury Extreme G4e 7450 1.4-1.467 GHz (NOT a Cube version)
> 4) a Dual-1 GHz G4e 7450 from a Quicksilver 2002 will arrive soon (eBay)
>
> The questions are:
> 1) Will they work in the Cube?

First off, start researching at CubeOwner:
http://www.cubeowner.com/forums/

If you going to do any mods to the Cube put in a base fan. I have a
Zalman in mine running on low voltage and I can't hear it at all. Of
the processors you list only the dual 450 will work in the Cube and
that will require spacers under the heatsink. The others will probably
burn out the Cube's VRM if you try to run them. Processors for the
Cube are built differently from most other Mac models so that they
don't overload the Cube's VRM, which is it's weak spot.

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Jump-Starting a "Dead" G5

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A G5 (DP 2 GHz) purchased from the LEM swap list a few weeks ago
worked quite well for a while, the only issue was the front USB port
didn't work. A few days ago it just stopped powering up. The front
power button gets me nothing, no chime, no LEDs, nothing. The power
supply still makes the usual single click when I unplug it/plug it in,
so I'm hoping it's just the front panel that's gone bad. I found a
pinout that shows front panel pin #2 as ground and pin #13 as power
button, so I'm thinking that if I momentarily bridge pins 2 + 13 it
should bypass the front switch and start up the G5. I'm wondering if
anyone has ever tried this? I'm not sure I want to be the first.

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Re: installing video card into DP 1.0GHz MDD

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If it is a Mac edition or has had the ROM editted for the Mac it
should work just fine. If it is a PC card you will need to alter the
ROM for it to work. The best paln would be to 1) install it 2) boot up
3) if it works, great 4) if you get a black screen start looking for
directions on how to flash the card's ROM.

On Jun 1, 11:56 am, Dark_Mac  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Just get a NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 128 MB card for my DP 1.0GHz MDD  
> running OS X.4.11.  Before I remove the old card and install this one  
> is there anything special that I need to do?
>
> Download drivers? install drivers?  I'll back up the system before I  
> do this as well.  Am I missing anything?  Just want to have the  
> correct plan of action here before I install.
>
> Regards,
> Dark_Mac

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Re: Video upgrade

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On May 9, 10:52 am, Jeff Bequette  wrote:
> I have the low end June 2004 1.8 DP G5 with the Nvidia GeForce FX 5200  
> (64mb) video card on the AGP bus.

I've run a GeForce 6200/256 AGP and a eForce 7800 GT/AGP in my DP G5
and either one is a big improvement over the OEM card. The 7800 GT is
arguably the best AGP you can get. There are no Mac versions of these
per se, but they end up being cheaper than Mac cards if you can get
the PC version and convert it.

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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

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On Mar 30, 12:57 am, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
> >> If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4
> >> supply to be easily modified to work in
> >> the Audio Digital G4.
>
> It's "easy" IF you have the Molex (USA) Inc special tools and access to
> Molex (Japan) Ltd pin housings for the Mini-Fit Jr series.

It's easy to remove the purple +28V wire from a QS PSU, you don't need
special tools. You just need 2 heavy duty sewing needles; push them in
the sides of the pin to compress the lock tabs and pull the purple
wire out, shazam! you have a Digital Audio PSU!

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Re: A note on Monolingual 1.3.9 and Tiger

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I use Monolingual often, one trick I've learned is to make sure I have
other web browsers (Firefox, Chrome) installed so that I can download
and reinstall Safari if it has issues after the languages are removed-
that issue was discussed quite a bit when Tiger was the current OS.

On Mar 26, 11:55 pm, Sean Carroll  wrote:
> Prior to trying out Monolingual, I found and studied the following  
> helpful article:
>
> http://www.jklstudios.com/misc/monolingual.html
>
> Based on cautions about Adobe apps, I decided not to remove language  
> files from any apps (unchecking the Languages box - actually both  
> boxes - on Applications in Monolingual Preferences). At the last  
> minute I decided I would remove unneeded architectures from apps  
> (rechecking the Architectures box on Applications in the prefs).
>
> After Monolingual had done its thing and I'd rebooted, I opened  
> Safari and got a dialog box about a Flip4Mac file having been damaged  
> and the need to reinstall Flip4Mac. OK, fine. Except that I needed  
> Safari to go get it, and Flip4Mac was killing Safari after the dialog  
> box. Tried reinstalling Flip4Mac from the old .mpkg, no dice, nothing  
> there to install. Hmmm. What do I do now, wait another 100 minutes to  
> clone back the backup? Fortunately, Flip4Mac's uninstaller still  
> worked. With Flip4Mac gone, Safari worked again, and I was able to  
> download Flip4Mac and right the Monolingual wrong.
>
> I mention this both as a note on Monolingual and as a question about  
> what other little oddities I might expect as a result of messing with  
> the architectures in applications (I had the ARM and all G5 and 64-
> bit and Intel ones removed). I hope I avoided the major disasters  
> that people who just kind of dived into running Monolingual have  
> reported.
>
> Took about 50 minutes here. Monolingual reported removing 790 MB, but  
> the system came back showing 1.12 GB of additional space on the  
> partition. Either way, not bad.
>
> Sean Carroll
> slcarr...@me.com
>
> Power Mac G4 AGP "Sawtooth" 1.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 1 each SATA (750 GB) &
> PATA (160 GB) hard drives, gigabit ethernet & USB 2.0, ATI Radeon 9800
> Pro, Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 & Leopard 10.5.8

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Re: Safari and a RAM Disk

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I'm trying it on a MacPro running 10.6.6, although I was hesitant to
install anything with such an ugly icon. Despite that it seems to
work.

On Mar 21, 4:12 pm, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:

> It works, yes. I've set up a 256mb one, and had it move the caches over. I'll 
> see if it seems faster. It'll be hard to see, though. I've got a fast system 
> (this was on my quadcore imac, which has a 7200 rpm drive) I'll put it on my 
> AlBook tonight and see if it helps. (also with a 7200 rpm drive)

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Re: Radeon 9600 from G5 – possible upgrade for G4?

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On Mar 13, 11:03 am, "Mac User #330250"  wrote:
> I'm just wondering: will an ATI Radeon 9600 Dual-DVI AGP card work in (every)
> G4 Power Mac?

Most but not all, according to the chart
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/compatibility

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Re: New to the group but the best find ever!!

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On Mar 11, 7:29 am, Major Motoko  wrote:
> I just bought a *PowerMac G5* Single 1.6GHz & 1.8GHz, Dual 1.8GHz & 2GHz
>
> I am a graphic designer who would like to turn my office into a one man
> graphic studio (on a budget) and I would really like to sup my G5 up to
> handle all the work that I will be working from movie editing, 3d rendering
> and photo editing all the big guns.

Start by identifying the specific model G5. You can do this by either
clicking on the Apple (top left corner of the screen) and selecting
"About This Mac" or by removing the side panel and looking for the
sticker on the bottom of the interior case.
Different G5 models can take different amounts of RAM and you will
want to max out the RAM to get optimal performance.
You also might want a better video card than the one that came with
the G5, and that will also depend upon the model G5 (AGP or PCI-e
video slot).
Post the hardware specifics here and you will get tons of good advice.

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Re: GeForce FX 5200 causing kernel panics on Sawtooth running Tiger

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On Feb 24, 5:43 pm, Sean Carroll  wrote:
> I've been unable to get this new graphics card to work properly. It's
> the only failure of an otherwise successful upgrade project (Sonnet ST/
> G4 1.0 GHz CPU, SATA card and HD, and USB 2.0 card were the other
> items).

What version of Tiger are you running? Is it fully updated to 10.4.11?
If not, swap an older video card in and fully update the OS, then try
the 5200.

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Re: Sufficient power from Sawtooth PSU for Radeon 9800?

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On Feb 22, 8:09 am, faithie999  wrote:
> i'm planning on installing a Radeon 9800 pro card in my sawtooth.
> should i replace the power supply with a 300W (or larger) ATX power
> supply?

I once loaded up a Sawtooth with several extra hard drives and a
better video card, I was not able to overload the OEM power supply. I
went ahead and fitted a 550W ATX PSU anyway, mainly because of the
better fan; it ran MUCH quieter and pushed more hot air out of the
Sawtooth.

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Re: GeForce 6800 vs 6200

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On Feb 14, 7:11 pm, faithie999  wrote:
> i'm running an XFX GeForce 6200 (flashed) video card in my Sawtooth.
> i'm wondering if a galaxy GeForce 6800 would be an appreciable
> improvement.
I think the Nvidia model would be a much better choice. From some
comments from themacelite:
•Galaxy Geforce 6800
This card has shown up recently on Ebay from Hong Kong and has a
smaller than normal 6800 PCB. It is not as fast as the large PCB
6800's. The card is disabled by hardware and a very curious PC ROM.
The Temperature Sensor, TV Out and DL do NOT work. It is not
overclockable. There are still some odd issues in certain computer
setup's with video card/ROM, so be warned.

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Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002

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On Feb 7, 12:40 pm, Jay  wrote:
> Anybody running Leopard on a G4 Quicksilver 2002 800mhz with 1.5gb ram
> and how is it?
> I have read on LEM that I will be pushing if I want decent performance
> and that's fair enough.

Leopard will be slower than Tiger but I think you will find it
accaptable. One thing you can do: after installing and updating
Leopard download and run Monolingual (freeware). Remove all languages
you don't use and remove the Intel architecture. You'll save a few GB
disk space and gain better performance.

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Re: 2009 MacPro + Blu-Ray

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On Feb 6, 3:09 pm, Ted Treen  wrote:
> I also have an  2009 Mac Pro (bought in April 2010), and I would like to
> add an optical drive with Lightscribe into the lower optical bay which
> is currently empty.

I use an LG purchased from OWC several months ago and it hasn't given
any problems (MacPro 1,1)

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Re: jumper settings on optical drives

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The MDD should show both optical drives (mine does); the first and
easiest thing I would try is to blow out both drives with a can of
compressed gas. Sometimes a little dust gets in and interferes with
the laser just enough to mess with you.

On Feb 3, 5:48 am, Deiniol ap Deiniol
 wrote:
> Hi Group:
> When I got my dual 1.2GHz MDD a few months ago, I found it had two
> optical drives fitted, although only the upper one was functional.
> Clicking the 'open drive' icon  showed one drive: the button always
> opened the top one and sometimes the lower one would open too.  As I
> had it out of service today to install my newly acquired SCSI card
> (and that's another story - showed up in Profiler but no OSX drivers
> available), I decided to replace the non-functioning drive.
> I removed the drive cage, and then I noticed that both drives were
> jumpered as 'Master'.
> "Ahah!" I thoughtthat's why drive 1 isn't working, so I jumpered
> it as slave and restarted the machine.
> And suddenly I had two DVD drives showing when I clicked on the "open
> Drive" button.and reacting individually."Great" I thought, but
> drive 1 still wouldn't recognise any optical media I put in it.
>  So pretty  obviously borkedpossibly a non-operative laser...the
> drive is a Sony combo drive dated October 2003 so quite likely to have
> expired.
> Having an old DVD ROM that came out of my dead Sawtooth, I decided to
> try that.
> Jumpered as 'Slave' I fitted it and tried a reboot.
> No joy, and I no longer had two drives showing in the drive open
> button.
> But I did have another DVD ROM that I had bought BNIB from a thrift
> shop some months ago.
> That went in, showed up in System Profiler as a Lite-on DVD SHD -
> 16P1S rev. GS07, but again was not showing on the button, and I could
> only open it by pressing the 'open' button on the front of the drive.
> But when I put a DVD in I got the 'Assign Region Code" screen, so that
> was set to R1, because I have quite a few of those, and since the
> machine has the 128MB GeForce Ti Graphics card (what a monster:
> straddles the PRAM battery and runs the length of the machine!)
> driving a 21" Mac CRT monitor, it's excellent for media (and I have a
> choice of MacPro speakers or LaCie Firewire speakers so it sounds OK
> too!).
>
> It plays perfectly, and will open by ejecting the disc from the
> Desktop.
>  I watched my just-bought "In the heat of the night" (twice: second
> time with commentary - that's why I like R1 discs!): I then ripped it
> with Mac the Ripper, and that file plays absolutely perfectly with
> VLC.
> This new drive doesn't show in Disk utility either, but the other
> drive (TSST corp CD/DVDW TS-H552U rev. US06) does and (almost) always
> has worked fine.
>   I don't know if it's relevant, but I got an unopened copy of iLife
> 08 last week, and the DVD of that would NOT mount on this machine
> (tried 3 or 4 times, including after a reboot - sounded like it was
> spinning up then down again:  the iWork trial CD; also brand new,
> opened fine, as did two different movie DVD's) although this iLife
> DVD            worked perfectly on my G4 iMac
> So any thoughts as to what may be going on here?  I tried resetting
> PRAM on the off chanceI know clutching at a straw!...obviously no
> difference, and also tried a safe boot in case it was a cache issue:
> again zilch!
>
> Running 10.5.8 with 2GB memory, and two 160 GB hard drives, one
> original one new..
>
> I did try drive 0 as slave and 1 as master - no change, also both as
> cable select - no difference.
> Is it perhaps  a firmware issue, either with the G4 or the non-Apple
> drives perhaps?
> Hoping someone here has a solution to this little mystery.
>
> Dan

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Re: Unstable PowerMac G4

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I would get a new hard drive and do a clean install of 10.4, see if
that fixes things. When hard drives first start to fail they randomly
lock up. 10.4, 10.3, 9.2, safe mode, single user mode... all these
access the hard drives in slightly different ways. I had very similar
symptoms in my Cube and was lucky enough to copy my files and get a
new hard drive in before the failure become a disaster.

On Jan 30, 12:46 pm, "Deaner Lawless Jr."  wrote:
> Symptom:
> Will boot and operate properly. With or without activity will freeze with no 
> repeatability. If it goes to sleep it will wake up but not respond 
> consistently.

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Re: Dual G5 Dilemma

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On Jan 26, 3:50 pm, imrazor  wrote:
> I'm facing a dilemma about what to do with my (formerly) trusty dual
> G5. When I first got it used about two or three years ago, the package
> was damaged in shipping and warped the chassis, such that the G5 tilts
> to one side. Up until recently, the G5 worked fine in spite of that.
> Recently, however, the optical drive has quit ejecting properly. If
> you force open the tray, you can get it to eject with a paper clip,
> but that's rather inconvenient.

I bought a used G5 in the same condition several years ago. I was able
to fix the optical drive issue by removing the drive and adjusting the
small mounting screws on the bottom. I ran the G5 for several years
with a paperback book under the damaged corner (there, I fixed it!).
Last summer I decided to really fix it and I transplanted everything
into a used case that I picked up from the LEM swap list. I don't
recommend that. It took me all day, plus searching around several
hardware stores for the right tool to remove the processors. I'd
suggest you first try to sell it as is.

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Re: Sawtooth to Sabretooth: The CPU upgrade question

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On Jan 23, 3:57 am, Sean Carroll  wrote:
> Current system: Power Mac G4 AGP 450 MHz, 1.25 GB RAM, 160 GB & 40 GB
> hard drives (PATA), Gigabit Ethernet PCI Card, Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11
> and Mac OS 9.2.2
>
> I've found a great deal of useful information about Power Mac G4 AGP
> CPU upgrades through Low End Mac and scouring the archives here.

Personally I wouldn't think a processor upgrade, even a used one,
would be worth it if you are getting a new Mac soon. Max out the RAM
to 1.5 GB, that should only cost $20 or so. You can also run a
freeware utility called Monolingual which will strip out the Intel and
G5 architectures from your OS, along with the languages you don't
need. It will save around a gig of disk space and let Tiger run much
more efficiently.

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Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 2 Topics

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On Jan 4, 6:45 pm, Joan Duncan  wrote:
> In case this goes directly through: my lovely 22" Mac Cinemas screen
> needs a ADC to div connector for the Mac Pro. I'm thinking that I might
> can get a monitor for under $200 instead of paying  $100 for the
> connector. But I'm very nervous about buying some other 22" monitor. Any
> recommendations?

Go to a "big box" store (like Best Buy) where you can see dozens of
monitors running side by side and pick the one you like (I settled on
a Samsung) then shop around for the best price on that specific model.

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Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube

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On Jan 2, 2:24 pm, John Carmonne  wrote:
> I seem to have run into a bottle neck on my Cube 1.2GHz  1.5 GB RAM in that I 
> can't get a YouTube to play smooth and iChat is out of sync on the sound 
> along with very jumpy video.

It sounds like the Cube is nicely upgraded, the weak link may be the
video card. My Cube has a GeForce 6200, a popular upgrade for the
Cube, and it plays video pretty well (considering its age!).

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Re: Suggested upgrades for a Power Mac G4 PCI Graphics

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On Dec 29, 7:18 am, "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" 
wrote:
>I've been browsing OWC and the
> only processor upgrade is a 1GHz G3 PowerLogix upgrade. Is there
> anything out there that's cheaper and would give me a similar boost in
> speed?

If yoi can find a used Sonnet 500 mHz for under $25 it might be
worthwhile. I know it doesn't sound like much of a spped bump but you
get a larger cache with the Sonnet hence better performance. Also, max
out the RAM to 1 GB. See if anyone has an ATTO SCSI card and a 15K
SCSI hard drive for sale cheap. I set up a YIKES! with those mods for
a friend of mine and it's been running well for the past 5 years,
giving her internet access, email, iTunes, word processing, etc. with
10.4.11 as the OS.

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Re: Help Me Please!

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On Dec 29, 9:52 am, Stephen Conrad  wrote:
>  I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not
> work how can I manually eject this CD?

The easiest way is to put the "Eject" icon in your menubar, then you
can easily control the open/close/eject functions. Navigate to System
> Library > CoreServices > Menu Extras, double-click on the icon
called Eject.menu; you will see an eject icon appear in your menubar.

I don't know about the whole world but bunnies were on the verge of
taking over my yard until I started grilling them- tastes like chicken!

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Re: Radeon 9000

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On Dec 19, 1:22 pm, John Carmonne  wrote:
> Does any one know if a Radeon 9000 Pro video card out of a G4 MDD will run in 
> a G4 Cube?
> Would there be an advantage over a Radeon 7500 on the same Apple 20" cinema 
> display?

It will work but you will need to unscrew the metal backplate in order
to make it fit in the Cube. If the 9000 Pro has a fan you might need
to replace the fan with a smaller fan. It will give you better video
than the 7500.

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Re: Cube processor upgrade?

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On Dec 4, 4:19 pm, John Carmonne  wrote:
> I have a Cube with a Sonnet 1.2 and 1.5 GB RAM. I get a lot of SPOD (beach 
> ball) when trying to do a Carbon Copy Clone Between 2 FW ports  and it 
> doesn't matter which drive I'm booted to. It seems to be real slow and I'm 
> wondering if a Logic board can do this. I've tested it with all the apps I 
> have and they all say everything's OK. It seems any time I do any thing with 
> drives like CCC for instance it will SPOD forever and I have to force 
> shutdown and restart.

Sometimes that is an early warning signal that a drive is failing. CCC
uses a lot of hard drive access, kind of like putting a drive to a
stress test.

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Re: Beating a dead horse? - Flashing "PC" video cards for a Power Mac

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> I recently brought my old 733 Digital Audio back to life.  Currently
> it's sporting a modified 5200 from a G5, but after digging in my parts
> pile, I've found a 9600XT from Sapphire.

If the VRAM chips (there should be 4 of them on the fan side of the
card) are square it can probably be flashed, if they are rectangular
it cannot be flashed for a Mac. If it looks like it may be compatible
the info on themacelite website is still good.

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Re: Cube immediately shuts down with 10.5

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On Nov 26, 7:39 pm, "Andrew W. Hill"  wrote:
> I recently installed 10.5 on my G4/450 Cube using the open firmware
> hack, and it now turns off immediately after booting from the disk.  A
> reinstall did not help.  It boots fine from the 10.5 installer.  Has
> anyone else had any problems like this?

I had the same problem when I first put 10.5 on my Cube. I had to
replace 2 of the 3 RAM sticks. They had never given trouble in 10.4
but 10.5 is apparrently much more memory intensive and sensitive. When
I ran Rember (freeware memory testing utility) it found the bad RAM.
After I replaced all 3 sticks with OWC 3 x 512 MB Leopard has run
flawlessly. I should mention my Cube has a Sonnet 1.2 GHz processor
and a GeForce 6200 video card. I don't think you'll be very happy with
10.5 on a stock Cube, Tiger will run much better.

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Re: Getting there

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On Nov 17, 3:29 pm, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required.
> 10.2  (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on
> the Smurf.
(Hi Larry!) When I installed Tiger on your "revived from the dead"
Smurf I did straigth off the OEM 10.4 DVD. XPF was not needed. If 10.4
doesn't install properly on a Smurf I would look for hardware problems
(CPU going bad, RAM needs re-seating, DVD drive needs cleaning, hard
drive failing, etc.) then do an erase and clean install.

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Re: Which used Mac to buy?

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On Nov 15, 12:07 pm, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:
> Back to ds's original post, it seems clear that the 64-bit restriction on 
> MacPros is only in software:
> see:
> 
> Also this excellent site offers a simple workaround, since a 32-bit EFI 
> firmware system can boot a 64-bit kernel without issues:
> 
> Editing one plist file may be all that's needed to boot an original Mac Pro 
> in 64-bit mode...

The Mac Pro 1,1 has 32-bit EFI and will not boot into 64-bit mode. I
tried both of the references you cited several months ago and
eventually gave up. My 64-bit apps do run and the prevailing opinion
seems to be that the 32-bit EFI should be able to boot into the 64-bit
kernal but that would require a firmware update from Apple. It seems
Apple would prefer that I buy a new Mac Pro rather than update the one
I already own.

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Re: AGP Video Card for a 30" Dell UltraSharp?

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On Nov 15, 12:32 pm, Bill Connelly  wrote:
> Is there a DA Dual 533 or QS 2002 Dual 1GHz AGP Video Card for a 30"  
> Dell UltraSharp?
> Inexpensive flashable AGP cards, and flashing instructions, available?

GeForce 6200 / 256 MB VRAM, AGP can handle it. Be careful to buy a
model that can be converted to a Mac ROM (like the -WANG version) or
check on the swap list, I've seen several for sale there over the past
few months. Most models of this card are fanless but I would recommend
putting a small fan on the GPU.
See
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/compatibility

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Re: G5 PM temps

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On Nov 13, 1:48 pm, John Carmonne  wrote:
> Now that all's well on my PM G5 Dual 2.7 with new heat sink I want to know 
> what to think about temp ranges on the CPU's. The limit says 181.4F  they are 
> running at 141.F  to 162.F>

My DP 1.8 GHZ, which is air-cooled, doesn't get above 135 F.  I know
that's not really comparing Apples to Apples.   I2F

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Re: Which used Mac to buy?

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On Nov 13, 3:25 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> Also, regarding Intel Macs, there is speculation that 10.7 Lion
> will drop support for the Core Duo Intel CPU Macs, because they are
> only 32 bit processors.  >
It might not be a bad idea to wait until the next OS ("Lion") is
released and see which Mac Pros are supported. I paid $1000 for a nice
used one last year, 2 x 3.0 GHz Core2Duo processors, and found out
later that Apple does not support 64-bit processing in the early Mac
Pros. I'm more than a little ticked off that it won't 'unleash the
power of 64-bit computing' as Apple promoted with SL and that it
probably won't be able to go past SL when 10.7 is released next summer.

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Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable

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The Digital Audio models aren't quite as fast as the MDD but they are
very well built and probably less expensive if you're looking to pick
up a used one. With a slight wiring mod I put a QS 933 MHz processor
into mine, along with the max 1.5 GB RAM and a GeForce 6200 video
card; it runs Leopard nicely.

On Oct 28, 9:28 am, Powermac  wrote:
> Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and
> least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers
> have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do
> you guys think?

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Re: G5 not taking keyboard input

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On Oct 25, 9:14 am, Nestamicky  wrote:

> I think that's the real problem herenot responding to
> keyboard input during boot.

At the risk of stating the obvious, the keyboard needs to be a wired
USB keyboard in order for startup shortcut commands to work. Are you
using a wireless keyboard?

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Re: Thanks to Everyone for g5 info!

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On Oct 20, 7:34 pm, R 2  wrote:
> AGP is
> listed for the video card, but is there also PCI or PCI E or X in this
> machine-g5 power mac 7,3?
What video card is in there now? Look in Apple System Profiler under
Graphics, it is probably a GeForce 5200 with 64 MD VRAM. You will get
much better video from a card with 256 or 512 MB VRAM. Flashed PC
cards like the GeForce 6200 are generally much cheaper than OEM Mac
video cards.

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Re: Just purchased used g5 mac

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On Oct 18, 11:57 pm, R 2  wrote:
> Hello all-
> I just bought a used g 5 mac!  It has Leopard os, lists as 7.3? (what's this
> mean) with 2 GB Ram and dual ppcs at 2.0 Ghz. Also,2 HDDs with 250 GB each.
> Is this a good machine-reliable?  Any known issues besides capacitors on
> motherboard? Seems reasonably fast even by today's standards, but what
> improvements would be best.
An AIrport Extreme card, 4-8 GB RAM and a better video card would be
nice for Leopard. A GeForce 6200 or, better yet, a 7800 converted from
PC to Mac ROM are good options. My G5 is a DP 1.8 with 4 GB RAM and a
GeForce 7800GT, it is a great machine.

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Re: looking for nvidia gpu temp widget

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http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html

On Oct 12, 6:38 pm, roger deghetto  wrote:
> hello
> listers im looking for a nvidia gpu temp widget that works with 10.4
> and 10.5 if it list names of the cards the better and if it can list
> both cards in my g5 all the better
>
> thanks
>  roger

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Re: Quicksilver issue

[dc]

Try unplugging all the USB stuff. I eventually figured out that my
wireless keyboard was causing my Mac to randomly wake up from sleep.
It also happened with a Logitech wireless mouse but the latest
Logitech software update seems to have solved that for me.

On Oct 7, 3:35 pm, Stephen Conrad  wrote:
> Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz)
> 1.5 GB SDRAM
>
> 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM
> USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera
> plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB
>
> Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord
> to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V
> cord to power this thing and cannot find one)
> Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it,
>
> KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse
>
> PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine
>
> When I am away it randomly shuts down.
> It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver
>
> Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down
>
> Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I
> will get a new can of air today) and under the tower.
>
> What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with
> the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up
> (externally but same power strip)
> --
> Steve Conrad
> Henrietta, MO 64036
>
> "The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go
> forth and claim our place in outer space."
>                    - Capt. Henry Gloval
>
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Re: My Quicksilver

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On Oct 10, 1:14 am, Stephen Conrad  wrote:
> > Also, am getting an HD (2 if they are cheap) and was wondering if CCC
> > > (Carbon Copy Cloner) would be OK to make me a new HD
> They had a 1 TB Seagate but the box explicitly said it required a G5 Mac or
> better
> Once I move my HD stuff (via CCC) over to this new HD will I be able to boot
> from it if my current HD dies?

I've never had any trouble with any brand of hard drive in any of my
Macs. If the onboard controller supports large drives just about
anything up to 500 GB will work, on older G4s there is a 128 GB limit
(can be worked around in several ways, though). 120 GB hard drives
with 8MB cache / 7200 rpm are good and relatively cheap. CCC will make
the cloned system bootable.

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Re: Just got my first apple desktop!

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On Oct 5, 6:54 am, yolee  wrote:
> I am contacting Apple because
> i am hoping they can help me figure out the specs on the CPUbecause
> I don't see anytihng anywhere. I am hoping they can give me that info
> by the serial/model number on the card and then start building!

You might want to read this article, it is actually very easy to get
specs and user manuals for Macs
http://www.maclife.com/article/tip_day/search_apple%E2%80%99s_specifications_page_serial_number

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Re: airport card on g4 500 sawtooth agp

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On Sep 30, 1:07 am, G-Group  wrote:
>my problem is with
> the airport card, it's not being recognized. has anyone run into this
> problem?

You didn't mention your OS but you may need to reinstall the airport
utility, check your utilities folder and see if it's there, see if it
can help you. Is it showing in Apple System Profiler?

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Re: Digital Audio won't boot os9

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It boots from the CD so the problem is likely your hard drive. How is
your hard drive formatted? If you set it up with OS X you have to make
sure to install OS 9 drivers. You might need to reformat the hard
drive using that option. You probably don't need 200 GB for OS 9, you
caould partition the drive into 2 sections, 20 GB shouyld be enough
for OS 9 with lots of apps, the other 180 GB could be a backup for
your data or a clone of OS X for emergency startup.

On Sep 24, 1:26 pm, Timothy  wrote:
> Hello list,
> I have a Digital Audio DP533mhz that I want to play old games on, and
> use old adobe software, pretty much use as a toy, I have a g5 and a
> macbook pro so I don't need the thing, but I really want to go back to
> the old days of my imac once in a while.
>
> I cannot boot into os9.  I have a generic retail 9.2.1 cd that I have
> tried to install and it almost works.  I have installed os9, didnt't
> work so I replaced the System Folder with the one from the 9.2.1
> install cd, and opened it to bless it, but when I restart as I press
> the option key it offers the hard drive system folder as a boot option
> then tries to boot, reboots and goes into Panther.
>
> 1. I have an Adaptec card that has the 2 hard drives, one on each bus,
> both are cable select and format fine but
> 2. They are both over 200 gig.  That isn't the problem is it?  The
> card allows for big drives, and is why I got it.
> 3. It boots from the retail cd fine.
> 4. I got the computer off ebay and I don't have the original install
> cds, but places likehttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1835
> say that 9.2.1, which is written on my retail cd, is supported.
> 5. 10.3 works great on one of the hard drives, I want os9 solo on the
> other one and thought it would make it easier.
> 6. Classic works fine, I tried opening the system folder on the os9
> drive in classic to bless it for when it boots off the hard drive but
> it didn't work.  It would change the system folder form a regular
> folder to one with a smile face on it, but it would boot from the os9
> drive for a second then reboot right away into osx.
> 7. I tried using the "sudo bless -folder9 .../path... -use9 or -
> setBoot " from inside osx and it didn't work.
> 8. I reset the pram a bunch of times.
>
> Any ideas?

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Re: Graphic Cards Compatibility with M5183 "Digital Audio" but back of computer looks like AGP Graphics set up

[dc]

You need to flash the ROM and tape pins 3 & 11. Once that's done the
card will work in 10.4.5 or later versions of Tiger, all versions of
Leopard, and it will boot into 9.2.2 as well. At least mine does.

On Sep 16, 11:19 am, Aerendel  wrote:
> Will a EVGA (brand) nVidia GeForce 6200 LE ("8x" AGP card work with a
> M5183 (digital Audio?) (the back panel looks like AGP Graphics set
> up)
>
> Most problems are weird, but, Somebody donated an older Mac G4 to the
> local museum here. I'm on the Museum Board of Directors and people
> think I'm a mac genius because I kept their beige G3 alive and running
> their slide show for years.
>
> The donated Mac 4 has a toasted video card (It's at the museum and I'm
> not, so I can't find the model number, but...) I put the AGP Rage 16MB
> VRAM card from my work horse M5183 (with a 1.4 GHz processor) into
> that computer and *it* works fine. But when I tried to use the PCI
> card that is still inside the M5183 and connect to the internet, it
> lasted about 5 minutes and shot half a zillion error messages across
> the screen I rebooted tiwce, and this happened again, both times. I
> took a photo of the error message filled screen on the final crash,
> but the camera's flash went off and it's really tough reading that, I
> could probably spend some time copying all the numbers for you and
> post them here if that would do any good. But I think the bottom line
> is it crashed due to a memory conflict with the ethernet card. (that's
> my best guess)
>
> So I decided to try to get a new AGP Video card for the M5183. There
> is a store on eBay that has 8 GeForce4 TI 4600 128 MB VRAM cards left
> for 89.50 U$ plus shipping each. I went into my friendly neighbourhood
> computer store and the guy there can get me the 6200 LE card for
> $69.00 (and no shipping charges) but it is an 8x card and further
> research says it should work as long as I don't boot into OS9.2.2
> which I need to do every now and then, but I can probably run a VGA
> monitor off the other card, as long as I'm not connected to the
> ethernet/internet.
>
> But does anybody know if the 6200 LE is one of those magic cards that
> is backward compatible with 2x/4x AGP slots (it has the three part
> insertion connectors, so it will fit in place, but---)
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jim (Aerendel)

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Re: SATA Drives on PCI card will not mount in G5

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Part deux-
I pulled all three drives out and plugged them one by one into an
external drive enclosure. I hooked them up to my MacPro and used disk
utility to reformat each drive as MBR/MSDOS. Then I booted my MacPro
into Windows XP (bootcamp) and ran Sea Tools diagnostic utility. Each
drive passed all the tests. The MacPro didn't have any problems with
any of the drives in either Windows or Mac OS. And yet, when I put
them back into the G5 with the SeriTek controller card they do not
show up at all. Apple System Profiler shows the card in its PCI slot
and reports the proper firmware and driver installed. Where are the
drives?

On Aug 26, 10:53 am, dc  wrote:
> I've tried everything I can think of. I have a PM G5 with 2 SATA
> drives in the upper and lower bays and 3 additional drives in a Sonnet
> Jive 5 bracket; the drives are cabled to a SATA PCI controller card
> with SIL3124 chip. I have also tried 2 different Seritek IV4 cards.
> The drives will not mount, they never show up in Finder, System
> Profiler of Disk Utility.
> I know the drives (Seagate 7200.10 500GB) are good. I have put each
> one into the lower drive bay where they load up just fine. They each
> passed the SMART tests, have been partitioned with 1 partition and are
> formatted HFS extended. I cloned the system onto one of them and it
> boots up normally as long as it is in the lower bay with it's direct
> connection to the motherboard. When I move the connection to the PCI
> controller card it doesn't show up.
> I know the cards are good. The Seritek cards have run before in this
> G5 and in a MDD G4. The cards show up in System Profiler, the firmware
> is updated and the drivers are installed.
> It's not a power issue. The drives get warm so I assume they're
> spinning. I even hooked one up to and external power supply to be sure
> it was getting enough power.
> The SeaTools utility only runs in Windows so it can't help me check
> the drives.
> Maybe there is something I can do through Open Firmware to mount the
> drives?

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Re: Change computer icon

[dc]

The icons are located in System -> Library -> CoreServices ->
CoreTypes.bundle -> (Show Package Contents) Contents -> Resources

You will see a number of .icns for various Mac models.  There is a
generic com.apple.mac.icns that looks like an iMac but is actually a
monitor, that one often gets substituted if a specific icon is not
available. Also, for some reason, the iMac G4 15 is often substituted.
Figure out which icon shows up in your sidebar and change its name to
something else, or move it somewhere else. Then pick out one that
looks most like your computer (for example, in place of a TiBook 800
you might pick the ibook g4 or the macbook pro icon). Change the name
of that icon to the name of the one your system was using. Reboot and
enjoy.

On Aug 30, 11:13 am, JOHN CARMONNE  wrote:
> Hi All
> I want to change the Computer icon in the sidebar on my machines to  
> indicate the correct model, however when I get info on the file it  
> says read only and it wont accecpt the pasted new icon. How can I get  
> this to work?

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SATA Drives on PCI card will not mount in G5

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I've tried everything I can think of. I have a PM G5 with 2 SATA
drives in the upper and lower bays and 3 additional drives in a Sonnet
Jive 5 bracket; the drives are cabled to a SATA PCI controller card
with SIL3124 chip. I have also tried 2 different Seritek IV4 cards.
The drives will not mount, they never show up in Finder, System
Profiler of Disk Utility.
I know the drives (Seagate 7200.10 500GB) are good. I have put each
one into the lower drive bay where they load up just fine. They each
passed the SMART tests, have been partitioned with 1 partition and are
formatted HFS extended. I cloned the system onto one of them and it
boots up normally as long as it is in the lower bay with it's direct
connection to the motherboard. When I move the connection to the PCI
controller card it doesn't show up.
I know the cards are good. The Seritek cards have run before in this
G5 and in a MDD G4. The cards show up in System Profiler, the firmware
is updated and the drivers are installed.
It's not a power issue. The drives get warm so I assume they're
spinning. I even hooked one up to and external power supply to be sure
it was getting enough power.
The SeaTools utility only runs in Windows so it can't help me check
the drives.
Maybe there is something I can do through Open Firmware to mount the
drives?

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Re: Do G5s sleep?

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A stock G5 running 10.5 should sleep just fine. My G5 1.8 MHz DP would
randomly wake up from sleep until I got rid of my Microsoft Wireless
DEsktop keyboard and mouse. I replaced it with a Logitech and sleep
has worked fine ever since. I would also check 3rd party USB PCI cards
and APC UPS units, which are known to cause sleep issues.

On Aug 10, 5:24 pm, DLC  wrote:
> Greetings all,
> I was able to move a spare G5 (1.8GHz, DP) from my school office to
> home studio. At the office, sleep on the unit was not a luxury; now at
> home it would be a nice feature. The G5 does not sleep; when I
> manually put it to sleep, it goes through the motions to the point of
> shitting down the monitor projection, then immediately wakes up again.
> The OS is 10.5.8, btw.
> Is this a common issue with G5s? Any particular preferences to trash
> to reset the Energy System Preference?
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
> Best regards,
> Dana

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Re: Digital Audio doesn't recognize Sonnet ST / processor temperature

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On Aug 9, 3:09 pm, Geke  wrote:
> From a search on the web, I get the impression that most G4 processors
> don't have a temperature sensor, so I'll have to live with that. But I
> found that thermal paste isn't expensive at all and I'm going to put
> that on.
Correct, the G4 processor won't have a temperature sensor; newer hard
drives and video cards often do. If you want to use thermal paste you
will need to clean the CPU and heatsink. I usually start by scraping
with an old plastic credit card edge, then scrub with acetone (or
fingernail polish remover) on a cotton swab followed by ethanol or
rubbing alcohol. When you apply the new paste use a very small amount,
about the size of a grain of rice, and spread it thinly with a piece
of stiff, soft plastic. Be careful not to scratch the surface of the
CPU or the heatsink.

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Re: G5 Question

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On Aug 3, 6:10 pm, Dana Collins  wrote:
 I presume that this " Expansion Slot Utility" is an app found in the
> Utilities folder? Out of curiosity, is this utility installed on the Mac
> Pros as well?

It is on my MacPro running 10.6, now that you mention it I don't think
the utility is on PPC versions of Leopard. It opened the first time I
move a PCI card to a different slot. In Snow Leopard it is in System
\Library\Core Services.

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Re: G5 Question

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On Aug 2, 10:30 pm, DLC  wrote:
> My main question is: which slot of the three is the 8-lane slot? I
> suspect its the one closest to the CPU, is that correct?

Correct, the bottom slot, the one closest to the CPU. Open up the
Expansion Slot Utility program and you will see some configuration
options.

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Re: any usb keyboard?

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On Aug 1, 11:20 am, MarkyB  wrote:
> I have two G4's from work. all I got was the towers. The mirror door
> one I know I need the apple keyboard to even open the cd tray, but the
> graphite one has a button on it for that. Can I use any USB keyboard
> to get this one going?

Look in System\Library\CoreServices\Menu Extras and double click on
Eject.menu, you will get an eject icon in the menubar that you can use
to open and close the optical drive. Enjoy!

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Swapping Out a G5 case

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I just replaced a G5 case. Sweet Mother of Steve Jobs, who designed
these cases? Two things are apparent: 1) everything, down to the
fasteners, is first class and built to last, and 2) it better last
cause it's a beast to work on! I can swap out a G4 motherboard and
have it up and running in under an hour but this project took me the
better part of 2 days. Several years ago I bought a G5 with a mangled
case off the LEM Swap List, I got it running and then hit upon a great
solution for the ugly, damaged case- I bought a 28" monitor and set it
in front of the G5, problem solved! Didn't even need duct tape. A few
months later I purchased an empty case from the Swap List, which sat
in my parts closet a year or two. I finally got around to switching
over the mobo, power supply, fans, the whole works. It's up and
running after about 8 hours labor and an unproductive trip to several
hardware and auto parts stores looking for a 6" 2.5mm hex driver. The
specs: DP 1.8 GHz, 4 GB RAM (with copper heat spreaders), Airport
Extreme card, GeForce 7800 GS 256 MB (flashed pc) video card, Firmtek
SATA pci card with 4 internal ports, one patched to an eSATA port,
generic USB2 4-port card. There is a Sonnet Jive 5 with 3 WD 320 GB
SATA drives in a RAID 0 configuration which is giving me trouble, if I
don't get it running soon it will be the subject of my next post.

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Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

[dc]

Ends today. Newegg has the Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS
500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive for $56 - $16 off
with coupon code EMCYVNP29 [Exp 7/29] = $40 with free shipping.
Western Digital covers this product with a 3-year warranty.

On Jul 28, 12:27 am, Richard Gerome 
wrote:
> I was leaning towards a 128g max 7200rpm HD PATA instead of a SATA... Or 
> would it be better to go with a SATA PCI card and a SATA HD that is a 128g 
> max 7200rpm??? This is where I am stuck??? Also which way would be faster and 
> how much faster???   Thank You everyone very much!!!   Rich  

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Re: New video card help...

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On Jun 24, 3:46 am, Mark Sokolovsky  wrote:
> Hello everyone, I need help on this one, so try your best. I recently picked
> up myself a nice deal on a new video card. for $60, I got myself an ATI
> Radeon 9550 AGP 8x with 256MB of DDR2 Video RAM.

Sorry but that card is not a good choice for a Mac. This page has
pictures of compatible video cards:
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/ati-radeon
These cards are getting hard to find because pro flashers are buying
them up, flashing them and reselling them on eBay. IMO the best choice
for a Sawtooth is the XFX Geforce 6200 PV-T44A-WANG 256MB DDR2.
If you watch the LEM swap list you will see video cards come up for
sale every now and then; the prices are usually reasonable and they
are Mac compatible.

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Re: IDK how to flash a video card

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On Jun 16, 12:56 am, Mark Sokolovsky  wrote:
> I have an Nvidia GeForce 6200 AGP
> with 256Mb DDR2 RAM AGP 8X, and it's a PC card. Can somebody show me step by
> step instructions to get it working on my PM G4 Sawtooth?

After yo flash the ROM you will need to tape over pins 3 & 11 (or cut
the traces) to make an 8x card run in a Sawtooth.

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Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

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On Jun 14, 5:32 pm, James Chapel  wrote:

> 2. What model DVD-ROM drive did the DVD-equipped Beige G3s ship with
> and what speed did it run at (2x? 5x?)

> 4. All of my PCI slots are now full, so I won't have any room for a
> faster IDE controller card. However, would I see a substantial
> performance improvement in using a newer, faster drive or does the
> stock drive pretty much already operate at the integrated controller's
> 16MB/s cap?

I'll speak to a couple of your questions, the ones I have experience
with.
2. You can put just about any IDE DVD drive in the beige, I have a
Pioneer DVR-109 in mine.
4. You will see a very large performance boost if you use a controller
card (either ATA, SCSI, or SATA) and put in a new hard drive, 7200 rpm
- 15,000 rpm with 8MB or 16 MB cache. It might be worth using the
built-in ethernet to free up a slot for a controller card, or looking
around for a combo ATA-USB Firewire PCI card.

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Re: G3 Blue and White

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On May 27, 6:33 pm, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
> Will the sonnet card below work? 20 bucks? shipped?
>   FS:Sonnet Encore/Zif G4 500 Mhz 1 Mb Proc Upgrade Card Auto Bus Part  
> #: EG4-500-1M

The Sonnet G4 500 is one of the best available upgrades for a B&W or
Yikes.

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Re: Flashing a PC video card if you do NOT have a PC

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On May 26, 1:30 pm, "tsaec...@att.net"  wrote:
> can you flash a PC video card for use on a MAC if you don't  
> have access to a PC?
> I think we first need a clear Yes or No to
> PCI Video cards
> and a clear Yes or No to
> AGP Video cards.
> If any are yes then please point us to the appropriate web sites etc.

Yes to both PCI and AGP. Use the utility from this site:
http://thomas.perrier.name/graphiccelerator.html
Now for the not-so-clear part of my answer... You need to have one of
the supported video cards listed on the Graphiccelerator website AND
you need to have a custom ROM file AND the model/manufacturer/revision
of the video card must match the ROM file AND you may need to modify
AGP pins 3 & 11.  This page:
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/nvidia-geforce
has modified ROMs and photos of the specific video cards that can use
the ROMs.
IMO using a PC is more effective. A few years ago it was possible to
get lots of help with the process from various flashing forums but no
longer, most now seem to be using Intel Macs or Hacks and modding the
cards in newer, better ways.

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Re: Flashing PCI cards if you do NOT have a PC

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On May 12, 10:17 pm, Kris Tilford  wrote:
> The best possible PCI card for a PCI Mac is the nVidia GeForce FX6200 that 
> are the only PCI cards that can enable Core Graphics. Again, you'll only be 
> able to enable  
> Quartz Extreme up to OS 10.4.11 because PCI Extreme doesn't work in Leopard 
> 10.5.

The GeFore 6200 (and, I'm pretty sure the 5200/5500) has Quartz
Extreme supported without using PCIExtreme, it shows Core Image and
Quartz Extreme enabled in both Tiger and Leopard.

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Re: Flashing PCI cards if you do NOT have a PC

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On May 12, 9:32 pm, deadwinter  wrote:
> Does anyone know if you can
> flash ATI cards if you ONLY have, say, a G4 or G3 desktop with PCI
> slots, and no access to a PC?

Try looking here:
http://thomas.perrier.name/graphiccelerator.html

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Re: Which is better?

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On May 9, 1:12 am, Mark Sokolovsky  wrote:
> I have 2 video cards that i plan
> on putting on my PM G4 sawtooth. One is an Nvidia GeForce 6200 with 256MB
> RAM, the other is an ATI Radeon 9550 with 256MB of RAM. Both are flashed PC
> cards and work well on my system. Which one is better to use?

If you are running Leopard the GeForce 6200 will cause a boot delay of
2 - 3 minutes (unless you flashed it with the modified ROM that
removes the temperature sensing function). But on the + side, once
booted you can monitor the GPU temp using a program like Temperature
Monitor; I don't think the Radeon 9550 has temp sensor capability. I
put up with the 6200's boot delay because I like to monitor
temperatures, heat can build up in Macs when you start adding
processor upgrades, RAM, better video cards, additional hard drives,
etc. If the 6200 is a fanless model you should look into putting a fan
on it, these are popular add-ons for the 6200:

http://www.aerocooler.com/shop.cart?action=ITEM&prod_id=FANTIC3

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Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

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On May 5, 8:13 am, Mark Sokolovsky  wrote:
> I have an idea. Since the system only boots from the internal HDD, try
> installing OS 9 on one computer, take out the HDD and put it back in the
> beige G3. The newest system that i know of that can work with a sudden
> hardware change is the Sawtooth G4. I have done this before, and it works.
> So basically if you want to install OS 9 through another mac, your best bet
> is anything from your power mac G3, all the way to the graphite sawtooth G4.

May not work using a G4 then moving the drive to a beige, the OS will
install altivec on the G4 which the G3 cannot use. This usually means
the drive won't boot. I've never had success switching OSs between G3s
and G4s. Beige and Blue & White G3s can be swapped. But Manuel seems
to be up and running already with OS 9.2

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Re: Overclocking a Rev A Beige Desktop that's been upgraded to a G4

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On May 5, 11:22 am, deadwinter  wrote:
> Damn, DC, thanks for all the info.  I will now proceed with caution
> and not try to deal with those tiny jumpers.
> Also, I was *this* close to getting a cheap 700 on eBay.  Clearly I
> need to do some more research.  Cheap is good, but I don't really want
> to spend time getting over incompatibilities with 9.1
> Wait, there's a GeForce 6200 for the Mac?

There are PCI versions of the GeForce 5200, 5500 and 6200 that are PC
cards and can be converted to work on a Mac, or you can buy the
modified cards; you can find them on some popular auction sites or on
the LEM Swap list:
http://groups.google.com/group/lemswap/browse_thread/thread/883bca2c3b2eb8e0#
Bette hurry, $50 is a great price for this card!
A lot of the Radeon 7000s are flashed PC cards, that's the only way to
get a 64 MB VRAM 7000. They work fine is OS 9 - OS 9.1 and in all
versions of OS X. It's only 9.2 that has the extensions issue with the
7000.

My beige G3:
OWC G4 533 MHz, 768 MB RAM, 15K/16MB SCSI drive & ATTO PSC card,
GeForce 6200 /256 MB, Pioneer DVR-109, Sonnet USB & Firewire combo
card.  I added a 40mm Silenex fan in place of the small speaker to
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Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

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"The Beige is a handful as an upgrade project."

That's why I love it!  My beige G3:

OWC G4 533 MHz, 768 MB RAM, 15K/16MB SCSI drive & ATTO PSC card,
GeForce 6200 /256 MB, Pioneer DVR-109, Sonnet USB & Firewire combo
card.  I added a 40mm Silenex fan in place of the small speaker to
deal with the additional heat.

I've been running OS X 10.4./XPF for years; I use the machine on a
daily basis at work for email, word processing, internet, etc., mainly
for the "you can give me a Dell but you can't make me use it" factor.
It is truyly a handful as an upgrade project but the beige is built
like a tank and it may just run forever.

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Re: Overclocking a Rev A Beige Desktop that's been upgraded to a G4

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On May 4, 3:48 pm, deadwinter  wrote:
> I have a Rev.A Beige Desktop G3. maxed out in RAM, with the stock 4GB
> HD.  I upgraded the CPU to a G4, so now it's up to 500MHz.  OS is
> 10.2.6.  Strangely, with the L2 cache enabled (I'm assuming that if I
> ran the Sonnet enabler and I can see it in the System profiler it's
> enabled), performance has not gotten much better.  I am willing to
> believe the real bottleneck is disk i/o, but I was wondering...could I
> overclock this thing?  Most articles I've read focus On overclocking
> the G3 CPU up to 500, but mine is already at 500.  How far up can I
> go, and has anyone done this?

I have a number of upgraded beige G3s running Tiger with XPostFacto.
There are several things you can do to improve the performance.
First off, if you are using a Sonnet G4 500 MHz, moving the board
jumpers won't change the processor speed, Sonnet processors set the
speed to 500 no matter where the jumpers are placed.
A better hard drive will make a world of difference, I use 15,000 rpm/
16 MB SCSI drives and ATTO PCI SCSI cards. The cards are easy to find
and cheap, same with the SCSI drives now that so many people going
with SATA. An added bonus, you don't need to worry about the 8GB limit
when you use a controller card, your OS X partition can be any size
you like.
There are several video card options. The Radeon 7000* is one, Radeon
9000 or 9250 are better, GeForce 5200/5500 or 6200 are the best in my
opinion.
*if you go with the Radeon 7000 you are going to have trouble with
XPostFacto and OS 9.2.2.  You need OS 9 for XPostFacto but the 7000
will only work with the extensions from 9.0 or 9.1, so either leave it
OS 9 or 9.1 or you can copy the 9.1 extensions and replace the 9.2.2
extension with the copies.
To use XPostFacto partition your hard drive with 3 partitions, one for
OS X, one for OS 9, and the 3rd for OS 9 that will be used by OS X for
Classic.  All these tips can still be found on the XPostFacto page.
There is not much activity on the XPF forum anymore, most other Mac
users have moved beyond beige.

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Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!

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On May 4, 11:27 am, Manuel Marques  wrote:
> I recently got a PowerMac G3 desktop (the "Gossamer" model).
> The problem is that I can't make it to boot with the OS 9 CD I have
> here. I've tried booting with the "C" key pressed, and I've tried to
> manually select the CD in the startup disk control panel (the disk
> shows on the desktop, and it is browsable, so I believe the CD-ROM
> drive is good.).

1. Make sure you have an OS 9 system installation disk and not an
update disk.
2. Use compressed air or nitrogen to blow out the CD tray, sometimes
they get dirt & dust inside and don't work perfectly; since you can
mount and browse the CD this might not be your problem but it's easy
to do.
3. Lift off the top cover and see if the CD-ROM is an Apple CD-ROM,
jumpered as Master.

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Re: is my G4 PPC is dead?

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On Apr 25, 7:06 am, maggel...@gmail.com wrote:
>G4 PPC Quick Silver with 1.5Gb of RAM -
> 1.2 Single Processor - with 32mb Graphic Card
> Can't smell burn or nothing...just wont turn back ON again
> ANY ADVISE? thank you

If it's the power supply or logic board you might be better off $$
$wise buying a working Quicksilver (there's a nice one on the Swap
list for $100), transplanting your RAM, processor, etc. and then
selling or saving the working spare parts. That way you don't have to
guess which part has gone bad, you can test the mobo and power supply
one piece at a time and figure out exactly what broke.

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Re: installing a printer on an iMac G5

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On Apr 23, 9:30 pm, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> I have been trying to install an inkjet printer on my wife's iMac G5.
> I have tried installing 3 different printers (Lexmark X75, HP8050
> Canon MX300).  All installations end up the same way:  the iMac can't
> find a driver to use with the newly installed printer even after I
> have downloaded the latest drivers from the manufacturer's websites,
> and followed all onscreen prompts

Since all three printers have drivers for 10.4 and work on other Macs
it seems as if the problem is in the iMac G5. After you install the
drivers you should be able to find them manually in System\Library
\Extensions or in Library\Printers.  Things to try include
1) a different USB port
2) a different USB cable
3) repairing permissions, then shutdown and start up with a printer
attached and turned on
4) use a utility program like Xupport to force optimization, then a
restart will be required

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Re: older printer and a G5 iMac

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On Apr 20, 6:11 am, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> A friend recently gave me a Lexmark X75.  I downloaded the Lexmark
> drivers from their website, but it seems that the X75 is unsupported.
> The G5 can't find a driver...but it does "see" the printer and
> identifies it by name.
> Are there any other ways to solve this problem and get the X75 up and
> running on an iMac G5?

Did you follow these steps?
1. Double-click the installer icon on your desktop.
2. Accept the license agreement.
3. Cancel the Printer Selection screen. If you are unable to cancel
this screen, force quit it (command + option + escape).
4. If a Printer Setup is not complete message appears, click OK.
5. Go to System Preferences, Print and Fax, Set Up Printers.
6. When you see a message stating You have no printers available,
click Add, then select your printer. Note: If your printer is attached
via USB, it may not appear until you have selected USB from the pull-
down menu (I think that note is for Panther only).
7. It should find a driver called "Lexcmark All-in-One if you give it
a few moments to search.

-"A Friend"

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Re: G5 sleep problems

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Sounds like hard drive failure to me. Drives often die slowly, start
hanging, and just get worse until they fail altogether.

On Apr 13, 5:32 pm, John Carmonne  wrote:

> The systems are on separate drives this just started happening recently as 
> I've noticed. I only use this machine mostly to rip and burn DVDs and to CCC 
> HDDs. and watch movies
> usually on the Leopard drive. So the Tiger is the one that's pretty much 
> acting up. I'll try a system replace and then I guess maybe a hard drive. The 
> Tiger is on a Seagate 250 drive
> ST325624AS.

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Re: Power Crunch ?

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On Apr 8, 12:25 pm, Frank Dutra  wrote:
>I've just received my new Western
> Digital 2 tb "Green" drive and am impressed with it's size and weight
> and not just a little concerned about overtaxing my legacy machine's
> power supply. I also plan to upgrade my AGP OEM video card as I took
> a minor performance hit with the 22" Dell monitor.
> Will I be OK as far as the OEM power supply goes, and if not, would
> removing the 2 ATA drives help?

I would remove the 2 ATA drives to reduce heat (your PSU can probably
handle 4 internal drives). Consider 2 partitions on the new drive, one
for a bootable cloned system and a larger one for backups, data, etc.
If you are no longer using SCSI devices you could pull the old Adeptec
card. Be careful with the external firewire drives, if the Mac has to
supply them along with several internal drives there might be PSU
issues.

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Re: Best OS for MDD

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>I want a bit  
> of company on Tiger. It sure is doing real well for something obsolete.

You've got lots of company, Tiger's a good system for older Macs, but
Leo has 2 substantial improvements. Time Machine is the most obvious,
keeping things backed up is an important task. Sometimes our old Macs
run so well for so long that we neglect backups, then a hard drive
fails and  The second is less obvious, it's the way Leo runs
Software Update. Many people have screwed up their Tiger OS by running
something while Software Update is optimizing the system, leading to
an unbootable OS. Leo shuts down all other running processes when
running a system update that requires optimizing, it's Apple's answer
to the large number of complaints from 10.4 users.

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