graphics card reccomendation for PowerMac g5
I have a PowerMac g5 1.8 dual processor with the older AGP port. what are some good graphics card options for this computer that will not cost a ridiculous amount of money, that is a good upgrade over the stock GeForce FX 5200 64mb. The card will be used for light photo/video work in adobe Photoshop, and Primere Pro CS2, Thanks -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: UPnP/DLNA client
On Dec 23, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Dan wrote: > At 7:58 PM -0800 12/17/2013, nestwasright wrote > (on g-books and got no response after 6 days, so I'm doin this on g3-5 too): >> Anyone know of a solid dedicated UPnP/DLNA client? >> >> I say dedicated because I've tried VLC and don't really like it for that >> purpose. >> >> This will run on 10.5.8, if you know of an intel app, that will be good >> for research as well. > > Lookin too, here. I want to stream from my QuickSilver (Leopard) to my new > Toshiba LED Cloud TV. > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. I use tvmobili with great success streaming from my mini (Mavericks) to my Samsung blu-ray, Samsung tv and even my PS3! I think they offer an older unsupported version for ppc leopard if I recall correctly. There is also Plex and a few other options. Google “mac dlna server”. Have fun figuring out the options! Joe -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: USB problem (SOLVED)
Thanks to your suggestions Clark I found out that it has to do with the USB hub on the keyboard. When booted up with the option key, no power to the ports on the keyboard. When the OS is booted up then the mouse works fine. Something to do with the resetting of the USB ports. Somehow going through it twice produces power at the ports on the keyboard. In any case the keyboard hub is "bad" in some way - it worked fine for about three months and then this just started up a couple of days ago. Final workaround is to just plug the mouse into it's own motherboard port and it works fine. Many thanks to those who replied. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: USB problem
On May 3, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > > The USB port(s) the keyboard and mouse are plugged into are motherboard > port(s)? > Yes. > Are the mouse and keyboard Apple brand? > Yes. > Have you tried another mouse and keyboard plugged into the G5 in question. > > No! Good question. I'll give it a try and report back.. I'll also do a verbose boot and see if something comes up in the logs. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
USB problem
Hi All, Have a G5 2.0ghz DP (A1047) running Leopard 10.5.8. Recently it developed a strange bug which I think must be hardware related. The mouse is plugged into the keyboard and the keyboard is plugged directly into one of the rear USB ports. When booting with the Option key held down to select an alternate startup drive (firewire external), I get no mouse or keyboard action (I get a mouse pointer but it does not move). The mouse laser does not light up. However when allowing the system to boot off the default internal drive and come up into the OS, the mouse and keyboard work fine. In both cases I can see the mouse flash twice during startup then it goes off. When booting into the regular drive, the mouse laser then comes back on. I have tried resetting the PRAM several times, tried different USB port, unplugged other USB devices, pressed the SMU button on the motherboard, powered off and unplugged the machine then held the power button down. None of these things have made a difference. I tried the external drive, mouse and keyboard on another G5 and everything works perfectly, plugged in the same way. Being that the USB port works under OS control but not under firmware, could it be a case of corrupted firmware? I admit I am stumped and have worked on Macs for years. Never had this problem before. Any ideas? Yes I have googled this and found some similar reports, but nothing that really helped. Thanks! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
I won't be moving to the forums. I think Wordpress stinks. And I really enjoyed getting my info via email lists. Really sad about the change. Bye all. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Leopard on an 800MHz eMac (ATI)? (... and stuff)
On Mar 26, 2011, at 8:38 AM, iJohn wrote:l I was wondering if anything other than performance might go wrong if I moved her eMac to Leopard? Technically it doesn't meet the minimum requirement of 867MHz, but it's not very far off. So if the only concern is how well it might perform it seems like it's worth trying it to find out. I'm not sure Leopard will run on the 800mhz. The minimum is stated at 867mhz and I think the install disc will not proceed if it detects a slower processor. Tiger would be a good choice and will perform faster (at least according to my subjective experiences with both on an eMac). The main reason I went to Leopard was to get iTunes 10, so I could continue to upgrade and sync my iPhone OS. Oh, almost forgot. I'm not sure if it is still using the original PRAM (?) battery or not. If so, that might also be on its last legs. If some day ... sure as heck not going to be THIS month, but if some day after I file my taxes I ever go inside the eMac to swap the hard drive, it probably would be prudent to replace the PRAM at the same time. Where do you folks go to buy those? About how much does a replacement battery usually cost? I just replaced the pram batteries in both of my eMacs. They were both dead (I discovered this after a power outage). I bought the batteries for $3.99 each at OWC, plus shipping. You can find them slightly cheaper but I wanted to make sure I got good fresh batteries. I have no stake in OWC but have had good experience with them in the past. The batteries arrived in a couple of days. joe -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Supply
As long as the specs are the same it's a non-issue. Just be sure that the new battery fits snugly in the holder. I just had the same experience with a new battery for my eMac. The new battery had a shorter + terminal than the old one. But it fit quite snugly so no worries! It's working fine now. On Feb 5, 2011, at 5:26 PM, diane wrote: On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:08 PM, wrote: > Quick question I just ran to Radio Shack and he noticed what I did - > the > battery that came out of the machine has a very high tip to it. Much > higher > than the spares I had and what he has in stock. > > Is that "normal" with this particular battery? There is a shop I can check > with locally but not till Monday. The +'ve terminal DOES, indeed, project farther than the -'ve terminal. Sorry, I wasn't clear. The + terminal is taller on the battery I pulled out of the G4, than the spares I had on hand (from Yikes and below) and the ones I could buy from Radio Shack. I know the + is taller than the - in general practice. :) Diane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: how do i stop these emails?
On Nov 30, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:08 AM -0500 11/30/2010, Charles Davis wrote: Header ? WHAT HEADER??? I don't think that I've turned off anything in the header department, and the only thing 'headers' controls is the normal 'E- Mail' information. *shrug* EVERY email sent by Google Groups contains these seven "List-" headers: Dan is right, every email does include those headers. To see them though you have to go into Mail Preferences and change the header viewing option from default to long or custom headers. The default is to not show the "long" headers. Joe -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
FW: Half time event
Amazing performance! Subject: Fwd: Half time event Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:30:13 -0400 From: don1...@aol.com THIS IS AWESOME Video: A Physical Education teacher, Lynn Kelley who founded the Kings Firecrackers 13 years ago, said the video of their performance at an Army vs. Navy game in February was posted to the team's Web site in early April, and has ignited national interest. http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1418565565?bctid=23207933001 _ Windows 7: I wanted more reliable, now it's more reliable. Wow! http://microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default-ga.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:102009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Sort of on the same issue, does anyone know if there's something different about CNN videos? I do fine with YouTube and most other video formats (and I use "ClickToFlash" to avoid loading Flash stuff I don't want), but CNN videos play terribly for me. (AGP G4 1.4ghz, 2 gigs, RAM 10.4.11 and a GeForce FX 5200 AGP card) Not a big deal, but fewer and fewer stories are being offered as text. Joe ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
"desktop" folder downloads
Have I got some sort of malware? I keep getting downloads of folders called "Desktop" (or rather "Desktop-1", "Desktop-2", etc.) while using Safari 4.0 (with Webkit) under OS 10.4.11 on my G4 Sawtooth. They happen when I switch from one URL to another, but don't correspond to any URL. Sometimes (pretty frequently) when I enter a new URL and load it, Safari's Downloads window pops up and shows the thing being downloaded. There seems to be nothing in the folder, but the files do appear in my user folder, and my actual Desktop seems to be undisturbed. So far, I've just trashed them out of my user folder and cleared Safari's Downloads window. Anyone heard of such a thing? Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SATA card for a G4 AGP?
Just looking at harddrive prices for larger drives, it seems that it might be worth my while to get a SATA controller card. I don't know anything about them, though. Is there anything in particular I should look for? Can I buy any SATA card, or does it have to specify "for Mac"? TIA, Joe ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DVD/CD master?
On May 26, 2009, at 2:35 PM, MacGuy wrote: > > I just made several "what I thought" were bootable dvd .dmg's in disk > utility and for some reason they won't launch dvd player? I set the > image format to: "DVD/CD master" and they all simply mount to the > desktop, but dvd player does not automatically come up? what did I do > wrong? I also tried it with a new tiger test volume, and no dice... > strange. Jeff It sounds like you made a data DVD with a copy of a dmg file on it. You want to make a movie DVD with the VIDEO_TS folder--that is if you want something that will play by DVD Player. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Swapping one default app for another?
On May 25, 2009, at 1:05 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: > > At 1:57 PM -0700 5/22/09, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> I just got BBEdit 9, I've been using TextWrangler, and I have a whole >> pile of document types (.txt, .pl, .css, etc etc) all set to open in >> TextWrangler. >> >> Rather than burro through my disk and find an example of each one to >> 'get info > open with > change all' on, is there any way to tell the >> system 'Every kind of file I now open with TextWrangler, I want it to >> open with BBEdit"? >> > > Jeez Bruce, if *you* don't know the answer to something it might not > be possible! > > (this one is though) > > get info on an example file > select the application you want to open that file under "Open with" > click on [change All...] to apply this globally > But that won't change over the entire list of file types. He'd have to do that with one example of each file type. You'd think there's a file somewhere that could simply be changed. I'm very curious as to whether Kris' idea works. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5.7
On May 24, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On May 24, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Meghrouni Vince wrote: > >> But it >> didn't, it just started from 10.5.6. I thought maybe I'd made a >> mistake and restarted from the wrong drive somehow from something I'd >> done, but then did it again from startup disc in prefs, making >> sure to >> choose the proper volume, the one with 10.5.7 and same exactly the >> same thing happened. >> >> What the bleep is going on here? Anybody know? > > Are you saying that you're booting in 10.5.6 from the drive you > thought you installed the 10.5.7 upgrade on? It sounds to me like he has 10.5.7 on one partition and 10.5.6 on another. The 10.5.7 system is messed up and not bootable, and now it's starting up from the other one. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bigger Internal HDs & Bigger External Firewire/USB HD
On May 22, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: > first which model QS? If 2002 or 2002ed then no problems w/ large > drives. But!! if first model then you will haveto partition > or use > third party software to set drive up. > Look in archives for drive size limitations, and high text cap I think you mean "hi cap kext". I only know of Intech's high capacity driver. I use it on my older AGP G4, and I've never had problems with it. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes needle stuck
On May 20, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On May 19, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Doug Burton wrote: >> After listening to the files >> being played from that system I can tell there is some copy >> corruption. Which begs the question, why? Does it have to do with >> the nature of the MP3 files themselves (being compressed and all), or >> is the computer copying procedure suspect? > > If copied files over the networks are showing corruption you have > either: > > a faulty network (in which case EVERYTHING will be getting screwed up > on a system connected to it) > > the local hard drive the files were copied to is failing (in which > case that computer will be displaying all sorts of faults, crashing, > etc) > > the player app on the computer with the corruption issues is at fault. > > A file copy across a network doesn't care if the file is compressed or > not, it is expected to be a bit for bit copy of that file. I suspect my problem was a failing drive (or a least a bad directory) that I backed up. When I decided to restore that partition from backup, the files were probably already corrupted before those were backed up. (In fact, these were relatively recently added files.) No biggie, though. I've got the CD these tracks came from. I was mostly confused by what iTunes was doing (where the timer toggled between two seconds). At first I didn't know the files were bad, but thought it was some problem with iTunes. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes needle stuck
On May 19, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On May 19, 2009, at 10:29 AM, joe wrote: > >> I've been having the weirdest iTunes problem. On certain songs, it >> "sticks" --it will literally play the same roughly 1 second part of a >> track over and over again. The timeline display toggles back and >> forth (like between 1:46 and 1:47 for example). >> > > I've had that problem with corrupted mpg or aac files ripped from > CD's. If it's a MP3 song, try playing it with a different player, like > VLC. I think you're right. I thought these were songs I'd copied from vinyl, but at least the one I'm looking at now was indeed ripped from a CD. In Amadeus I can see that it's messed up. I'm pretty sure these all worked fine for a long time, but a month or so back, I copied that partition back from a back-up, so I guess it got corrupted in the copying process at one point or another. What threw me is that iTunes would play like it was stuck (toggling back and forth over the same second). In VLC and Amadeus it doesn't do that. It actually plays through the entire track, but the sound is all messed up. Thanks, Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iTunes needle stuck
I've been having the weirdest iTunes problem. On certain songs, it "sticks" --it will literally play the same roughly 1 second part of a track over and over again. The timeline display toggles back and forth (like between 1:46 and 1:47 for example). I haven't checked into it much, but my impression is that it does it only on certain tracks and at the same position--but not always (I think). I think it happens when my CPU is being taxed pretty hard, but I'm not sure. I haven't yet looked at the problem tracks in Amadeus II or some such to see if they're damaged. I just wanted to see if anyone has even heard of such a thing. I think I have dust on my virtual needle! I'm using the latest version of iTunes 8 on OS 10.4.11 with everything up-to-date. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?
On May 13, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Baha Ata wrote: > You catched my eyes.. What software you recommend for fixing > batteries? May i need too. Thanks. I don't think this got answered yet. If it did, sorry for the duplicate. I think what he meant was to boot into Open Firmware, then type "reset-nvram" and hit return, then type "reset-all" and hit return. This gave me a lot more battery life once doing this with a Wallstreet. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 12, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > > As moderator said topic closed. We will continue if you like with > personal emails. I have not seen a moderator declare this topic closed. Dennis asked that someone please close it (because apparently he is obliged to read this thread against his will). > > Ask Apple: > > For example i bought two computer :) > > With system 10.5 > > One of them system disc lost? > > What will i do? > > Ask Apple: > > My neighbour got new G5 , i have a new G5, same model, same > production number... > > " i lost my installation disc? > > can i barrow from my neighbour :)" No, you cannot legally borrow it from your neighbor. Your neighbor would be violating his Software License Agreement (assuming he still has the OS on his machine). If you bought the computer new, there's a document that has the OS information on it. I have used that to replace a lost or damaged install disk (not the retail OS, but the install disk that I, the original purchaser, received with the new computer). Apple did that for me once upon a time. (It was 9.1, I believe, on my G4.) But that's not the situation described by the OP in this thread. You can get the software license agreements (in nearly any language) from this page: http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/ Here's the appropriate excerpt of the SLA for Tiger (from http:// images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx1044.pdf ): From 2.A: "This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. If you use Setup Assistant to transfer software from one Apple-labeled computer to another Apple-labeled computer, please remember that continued use of the original copy of the software may be prohibited once a copy has been transferred to another computer, unless you already have a licensed copy of such software on both computers. You should check the relevant software license agreements for applicable terms and conditions. You may make one copy of the Apple Software (excluding the Boot ROM code) in machine-readable form for backup purposes only; provided that the backup copy must include all copyright or other proprietary notices contained on the original." A couple of key clauses: "This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time" "You may make one copy of the Apple Software... for backup purposes only". Note, the OP of this thread does not have a license to the software. Further, this is from the rules page of the lemswap list: "Trafficking in wares and pirated software is illegal, violates the rules of the list, and disrespects the buyer. Only original copies of software may be sold on this list. This also applies to software 'left on' hard drives or installed on computers. Original software disks (not copies) must be included with the sale, along with manuals, serial numbers, etc." http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 12, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Baha Ata wrote: > So... Do u really catch the > point? Look, Baha, don't be snarky. I understand what you're saying. The thing is, what you're saying is wrong. > OEM licenses belong the machines not people Software licenses do not belong to machines. > All apple's comes with eproms and Systems... No > single Apple produced without system. Aside from a few Macs (like the Mac SE) that had OS's on their ROM chips, all Apples are produced without an OS. They're all sold *with* an OS (and install disks). If you sell a machine with an OS installed on it, you're supposed to include the install disks. (In other words, you can't use 1 license to install the OS on multiple machines--you're supposed to buy that OS for each machine.) The OP of this thread described a situation where the person did not own the OS. He is not entitled to download it from some sharing site as you advised him to do. I still think his first recourse should be to contact the seller who should have included disks. If the OS wasn't part of the purchase price, then it's up to him to purchase the OS. I catch your point, but you're wrong. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 11, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > Yes above one of my post i state that they may use OEM license... for > one install.. And it's already been pointed out to you that the license for the Mac OS that comes installed on a new Mac only goes to the original purchaser and is not transferable. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 12, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Baha Ata wrote: > > please do not add what i have never said... > Please review the thread. Someone who bought a second hand G4 that had Mac OS X installed on it but no disks was looking for a place to purchase the disks. You advised him to download it from rapidshare reasoning that owning a Mac entitles you to Mac OS X. What you advised was actually illegal. Debating whether or not a jury would convict someone (the people who own or run rapidshare, for example) is completely irrelevant. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 11, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > Joe... infact you are right in point of view... but rapidshare and > magaupload like sites use that... It is like that you may copy your > version on a backup and put somewhere for backup purposes. As long as > you do not use illegal way, it is legal. You make some bad statement, > you have ability to make illegal means not being illegal, or we are > all illegal... I wish my English is enough for clear out. But not > rapdishare or any other share services are illegal if you do not use > them illegal way. Thats the idea! I understand what you're saying. At best, you're making an argument that rapidshare or whatever upload service isn't violating the Apple copyright or EULA, but what you described (someone who doesn't legally own the software obtaining it from that source) is most definitely illegal. The fact that you can find a legal use of rapidshare, however, doesn't prove that they aren't violating laws. (It would be like a bank robber pointing to the thousands of times he walked into a bank and didn't rob it as a defense.) The context of your advice was NOT someone who owns the software making a backup copy and storing it on rapidshare for their own use within the license agreement. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 11, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Mac G4 wrote: > Secondly I asked Mac of All Trades and PowerMax how they are > allowed to sell used machines with no discs. According to them as > a Apple Authorized Reseller they are able to do this within certain > rights. Of course they didn't tell me all the legalities other > than if i wanted to to call Apple to check. I suspect they have to say the software is on there for demonstration purposes only, and is to be deleted (or reinstalled from a legal disk) by the purchaser. I don't think they can legally advertise these machines as being sold "with Mac OS X" if the disks aren't included. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 11, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > > Uploader putting his disc on backup purposes for futere downloading > his backup copy. Do you catch the idea? Uploading and storing a copy of software that you legitimately own as a backup copy is NOT what you described to the guy asking about getting this software. He does not own the software. That's exactly the problem. And I don't think you can make the case that rapidSHARE's motivation is to make a backup of legally owned software. (If so, why do they have "share" as part of their name?) Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 11, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Dan wrote: > > Slippery slope. Just because the cop lets that other guy go speeding > by is NOT justification for you to speed. I very specifically said that my observation that Apple is (or was) not interested in enforcing their copyright is no justification for piracy. It was the sentence right after the text you quoted me saying. On May 11, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > The funny part to me is that everyone here is saying the same thing, > and then saying Baha is all wrong. Everyone says you can reinstall > the > same version of OSX that came with your machine and you don't need to > buy a new license to do that. That is all I ever took Baha to be > saying. No. Baha is saying that it's okay to get that software from rapidshare.com, and that it's okay for someone to duplicate and upload the OS for distribution that way. I think the best solution is to ask for disks from the people who sold him a G4 with that OS installed on it--powermax.com. I think they either have to provide him with those disks or stop selling machines with that OS installed on it. I'll bet in their descriptions of the computer they are selling them with OS whatever. If that's the case, they're breaking the license agreement if they don't provide a set of disks with each one. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 11, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Dan wrote: > > This thread is bugging me. > > Let's be clear here. Apple's licensing is VERY specific. > <http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/> My comment is a bit of a tangent, but still pertinent, I think. Some years ago, I bought Jaguar install disks via e-bay. As it turns out, they were home-made copies with paper labels on them. I complained to the seller first, who said he thought they were legitimate since he didn't make them himself, but bought 100 sets of them from someone else.I complained to e-bay and Apple. Neither one responded to any of my e-mails, and the guy was still selling software on e-bay at least a year later. So. . . Apple doesn't seem at all interested in protecting their license. (Oh yeah, this was when Jaguar was still being sold in the stores, I should have mentioned.) After all, they let such a flagrant violator (not even an anonymous pirate, but an e-bay seller) get away with it. This certainly doesn't justify what Baha Ata has been saying. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
On May 8, 2009, at 4:34 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: >> Then why are you running Safari 3.0.4? >> >> - Dan. > > > Beats me... I'm on dialup and usually update a couple of times a year > by carrying my laptop to someone that has broadband (of which there is > none in these heeyah pahts). I help a friend who has dialup with her updates. I have her run Software Update and tell me what she needs, then I download them via DSL and put them on a flash drive for her. I used to even mail CDs to help an out-of-town brother with updates. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Question about suspect email re: my MAC (which is accurately a .mac) account wanting my info
On May 8, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Anne Brataas wrote: > What's with this email I got today from alleged HELP DESK at > mac.com full of wrong info about my MAC account, starting with its > name (correctly, it's a .mac account) and including its size and > expiration date, and telling me it's about to expire and wanting my > account info? Screen shot attached. Of course I didn't bite. I get these phishing/spoof e-mails pretending to be from paypal and ebay all the time. I usually forward them to sp...@paypal.com and sp...@ebay.com, respectively, before trashing them. They usually send an acknowledgement of the forward and a few minutes later a confirmation that it was indeed a phishing thing and a promise that they'll do what they can to track do the bad guys. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange "Downloads" While Using Safari...
On May 7, 2009, at 10:47 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: > > Yes, it is probably the "downloads" window. It just pops up randomly > and the downloads are generally tiny like 4K files. This crap just > started the other day. > > I don't know about capturing a screen shot since this activity > seems to > hijack the whole application. > > I guess I need to upgrade Safari for starters. > > JT You should be able to do a whole screen capture with command-shift-3. If not, go to Applications/Utilities/Grab. If your OS is 10.4.9, you should update it to 10.4.11 too. Maybe clean up a bunch of browser stuff (I like to use Onyx to clean all that stuff out). I can't imagine how you'd get automatic downloads, though. You could try looking at the page with JavaScript disabled. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DSL Modem Question
On Apr 28, 2009, at 4:47 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: > This is what I got: > > Siemens Speedstream 4100 B DSL ethernet ADSL modem > > > Just for reference sake, how good is this modem (ie, long lived)? > How reliable is it? > > Any one here have experience with this modem? I've got exactly that modem. I've been using it with AT&T DSL for about 3 years now. (I upgraded it from an older model when I had bad DSL performance, and the older modem was suspected. Turns out the older modem was fine too; the problem was outside the house.) Anyway, I've had no problems with it. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
multiple instances of Webkit again
I'm having a recurrence of the problem I had shortly after first using Safari 4 beta. The problem is not with Safari, though--best I can tell. When I have the default browser set to Webkit, and Webkit/Safari is already running, if I click on a link in Mail it will start a new instance of Webkit/Safari. (Last time this happened, just to experiment, I found it would open a 3rd, 4th, 5th etc. instance each time I did this.) If I switch the default browser to Safari I don't get this problem. I tried doing what worked last time: trashing Webkit and emptying the trash. Reset LaunchServices database using Onyx. (I also ran a bunch of Onyx's other cleaning and maintenance options.) Restart the computer. Download Webkit again, but don't run it. Test that using Safari as the default browser, I still don't get the multiple problem while Webkit is on my harddrive. Finally try Webkit. This time the problem is persisting. The problem came back after downloading one of the nightly builds. I suppose if no one can tell me what's going wrong, I'll just get rid of Webkit and quit using it altogether. Any ideas? Joe G4 AGP 1.4 GHz, OS 10.4.11 ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange mail behaviot
On Apr 23, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Norm Rowe wrote: > For the past couple of weeks I find the mail application open on the > desktop. I do leave my G4 on at night so it can do it's thing. I'm > using > OS 10.5.6 and I do not remember adding any new software but have used > software update. I can turn mail off and every thing is fine until > next > morning. I use Thunderbird for my mail and have it set as default. > Norm I think someone else on the list described the same problem not too long ago. Sorry--I'm no help, but maybe if you find who that was and see if he or she has found a solution yet. Joe ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: HELP!
On Apr 11, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > I'm surprised that you didn't suggest that his G5 is both dead and > > alive at the same time. > > What? he's got a cat in there?? Well THERE'S the problem :-P > > --__ > > What about the radioactive material? That'd scramble it. Nah--neither one is a problem as long as you never open the case and collapse the probability wave. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes Music Store issue
On Apr 10, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > On Apr 10, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Dan wrote: > >> At 1:56 PM -0500 4/10/2009, joe wrote: >>> "We could not complete your iTunes Store request. A required iTunes >>> component is not installed. (-42403)" >>> >>> I expect re-installing iTunes will do it >> >> Yes. Googling finds a number of people have experienced this exact >> error, and it was fixed by re-installing iTunes. The problem seems >> to be a corrupted update. Very bad design, that Apple doesn't check >> things such as this, before installing. > > The version provided by Software Update comes as 4 separate packages; > AppleMobileDeviceSupport.pkg, CoreFP.pkg, iTunesAccess.pkg, and > iTunesX.pkg. If one package was missing or not installed correctly, > that would probably be a "required component". I don't understand why > Software Update would offer a 4 package version when the Apple iTunes > site has a single package version? Thanks for the info. That does seem weird. In the future, I may just forgo the Software Update of iTunes and just reinstall the whole thing. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes Music Store issue
On Apr 10, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 1:56 PM -0500 4/10/2009, joe wrote: >> "We could not complete your iTunes Store request. A required iTunes >> component is not installed. (-42403)" >> >> I expect re-installing iTunes will do it > > Yes. Googling finds a number of people have experienced this exact > error, and it was fixed by re-installing iTunes. The problem seems > to be a corrupted update. Very bad design, that Apple doesn't check > things such as this, before installing. Yep--that did it. I was finally able to download and re-install iTunes, and it just asked for my password once to verify that my computer is authorized. Now it's playing purchased music. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes Music Store issue
On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > On Apr 10, 2009, at 11:23 AM, joe wrote: > >> it reported that some component is missing. > > "Some component"? > > Please, do better. OK "a required iTunes component". The exact wording is: "We could not complete your iTunes Store request. A required iTunes component is not installed. (-42403)" And in smaller print: "There was an error in the iTunes Store. Please try again later." I expect re-installing iTunes will do it, but I still have to put that off a while. I was wondering if someone had any other ideas? (I'm running most recent update of iTunes 8 on OS 10.4.11 on a G4 AGP upgraded to 1.4 GHz. I also use Libra to manage multiple iTunes libraries.) == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iTunes Music Store issue
I recently downloaded the latest version of iTunes 8. I was about to
play a track that I bought via the Music Store some time ago, and got
a popup saying that my computer wasn't authorized, so I entered my
password. After it communicated with Music Store for a long time, it
reported back that my computer is already authorized, but did not
continue to play the track. When I tried to play the track again,
the same procedure happened again. After restarting iTunes, and
trying it again--around the 5th or 6th time rather than saying my
computer was already authorized, it reported that some component is
missing.
I plan to download iTunes all over again, but my bandwidth is
currently tied up with something else. Anyone have any other
suggestions I could try in the meanwhile?
BTW--I don't know that this problem coincided with the latest
download. I very rarely play the small handful of tracks I bought
from the iTunes Store. This may have been a problem that existed for
a long time.
Joe
==
Joe the Juggler
4148 Wyoming St.
St. Louis, MO 63116
(314) 771-3243
http://joethejuggler.com
==
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
On Apr 7, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Dan wrote: > Actually, it kindof is a big deal. Each of those is WRITING to the > same data files, ~/Library/Caches/ and more importantly > ~/Library/Safari/. In the event of a collision, you're going to be > left with things like corrupted bookmarks, etc. We need to figure > this out It's fixed now, but I meant not a big deal in that I wasn't running multiple instances of the browser. I only did that to show that it happened. (Kris thought I was only starting different versions of Safari on my computer.) No, the first time I realized that was happening (easy enough with that plug-in warning popping up), I avoided using links. It's nice to have it fixed! ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
> On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Dan wrote: > >> Odd. I cannot seem to reproduce that. >> >> Please trash WebKit.app. Empty the trash. Launch Safari. Select >> Safari as the default browser. Quit Safari. Use RCDefault to verify >> that Safari is actually now the default. Launch Mail, hit some links >> to make sure you only get one Safari. Put the new WebKit Nightly >> onto your system. Don't launch it - verify that links in Mail still >> go to Safari. Launch WebKit, etc. That worked. Finally! For whatever reason, I couldn't get a good download of Webkit. It kept failing to verify. I trashed all the attempted .dmg files, went ahead and ran a few things in Onyx (repair disk permissions, run the daily script and rebuilt launch services database), then restarted the computer. Got a good download. I started Safari, then Mail, then clicked a link in an e-mail-- it started WebKit. I checked the preferences, and it somehow set the default browser back to WebKit. (Does merely copying WebKit into the Applications folder do this?) I just quit Safari, started WebKit and then hit a few links in e-mail-- all opened in just one instance of it. Hooray! I'll see if that corrected the invisible text thing in Mail also. It was intermittent anyway. At first glance I think it may have taken care of it. Many thanks! == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Dan wrote: > Odd. I cannot seem to reproduce that. > > Please trash WebKit.app. Empty the trash. Launch Safari. Select > Safari as the default browser. Quit Safari. Use RCDefault to verify > that Safari is actually now the default. Launch Mail, hit some links > to make sure you only get one Safari. Put the new WebKit Nightly > onto your system. Don't launch it - verify that links in Mail still > go to Safari. Launch WebKit, etc. Sorry--I fell behind in the responses to this. I'm trying the above right now. I'm up to downloading Webkit again. (The first part works right---getting rid of WebKit and making Safari the default--clicking e-mail links uses the already open Safari and doesn't make new instances of it.) I'll report on the rest in a moment. . . == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2009, at 11:12 AM, joe wrote: > >> clicking a link from Mail causes a second instance of the browser to >> start. > > This is incorrect. You can never run a second instance of "the" > browser. You can only run a second instance of a "second" browser. > This means you must have TWO versions of the browser on you computer > to begin with, and you must be currently using one of the two, and > then then second one is being launched by the link as a default > preference. I have only one version of Safari installed (and the current build of Webkit). If it's already running, when I click on a link in a Mail document, it starts another instance of Webkit/Safari. If I click on yet another e-mail link, it starts a third instance, and so on. Honest. It's not a different version of the browser. Not unless that other Safari somehow manages to avoid turning up when I search the Finder for "Safari". Here's a screen capture of Activity Monitor with 5 instances of Safari running: http://joethejuggler.com/ActMonitorCapture.jpg It's not a big deal. I don't ordinarily click on e-mail links anyway. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Dan wrote: > WebKit *DOES* support plug-ins and inputmanagers *EXACTLY* "like > Safari does". > > The error dialog is *cosmetic only*. It is provided to drive the > user nutz, er a alert the user that they're running a developer > nightly build that MAY have problems with plug-ins or inputmanagers > that have not been updated. I'm immune. (Already nutz, I suspect.) It doesn't bother me to click "continue" whenever I start it up. I'm fine with that tradeoff for a much more stable browser! == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
On Apr 7, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:48 PM, joe wrote: > >> I still think it's the best browser I've used in a while. >> >> I do have these problems: >> 1)It causes messages in Mail to be half invisible until you select a >> part of the text > > ?? I've not seen nor heard of this before... Several people have mentioned it on the G-list. Look at the earlier thread(s) on Safari 4 beta. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > >> I do have these problems: >> 1)It causes messages in Mail to be half invisible until you select a >> part of the text > > I'm not sure what you're talking about? My Mail.app behaves normally. Just what I described. Several other people have reported it on this list. Most of them said it was the reason they abandoned Safari 4 beta. > >> 3) When I open a link from a Mail message and I already have Webkit/ >> Safari opened, it opens a second instance of the application. > > This occurs when you have both Safari and Webkit. The problem is a > preferences issue. No, it is not a preferences issue. I have tried with my default browser set to Webkit and to Safari. In both situations, if the app is already running, clicking a link from Mail causes a second instance of the browser to start. This never happened with previous versions of Safari and Webkit, so I assume it's a problem brought on by Safari 4 beta. (Also, for unrelated reasons, I've re-installed my OS and all my software on a freshly zeroed partition and the problem persisted.) == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: >> 2)With Webkit, it always reports problems on startup (which I've >> figured out is the ClickToFlash plug-in that I like a lot, so I >> don't mind just clicking "continue" whenever I start up). > > Webkit nightly builds are completely different than Safari 4 beta. > Webkit works as a "self-contained" application, it doesn't install a > new version of webkit or the associated frameworks, but rather > utilizes copies within it's own Contents package. Yes, I know. However, using Webkit with Safari 3 versions, I never had the startup warning. Yes, I recognize it's Webkit and not Safari 4 doing this startup warning, but it appeared at the same time I started using Safari 4. I guess that was just a coincidence. (Do people using ClickToFlash with Webkit and Safari 3 get the start up warning? I did not previously, but I also haven't gone back to Safari 3. So, yes, it could just be something relatively new in Webkit.) == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 beta Problems still?
I still think it's the best browser I've used in a while. I do have these problems: 1)It causes messages in Mail to be half invisible until you select a part of the text 2)With Webkit, it always reports problems on startup (which I've figured out is the ClickToFlash plug-in that I like a lot, so I don't mind just clicking "continue" whenever I start up). 3) When I open a link from a Mail message and I already have Webkit/ Safari opened, it opens a second instance of the application. Joe On Apr 6, 2009, at 9:46 PM, MacGuy wrote: > > been waiting to download the Safari 4 beta till all the bugs are out > (or most of them) anything I need to know before download/install? > Thanks, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Erase a drive to sell
On Apr 4, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote:
>
> I once ruined a Credit Card by putting it in a shirt pocket where I
> had forgotten I was carrying a small magnet.
I used to wear a name tag held on by a small magnet, and I ruined
several credit cards that way!
Joe
==
Joe the Juggler
4148 Wyoming St.
St. Louis, MO 63116
(314) 771-3243
http://joethejuggler.com
==
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Erase a drive to sell
On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Dan wrote: > Ok... Just for kicks... I've got a drive here and a honking big > magnet. The magnet is so strong that once it grabs the drive, it > won't let go unless I pin the drive down with my feet and wiggle the > magnet off with both hands. After an hour of that exposure... I > hooked the drive up and . it works fine. Most of the data seems > intact; very little seems scrambled. And Disk Utility found no > errors in the file system. > > I'd say one needs a lot more powerful mechanism - like a real a/c > degausser. And even so, if the data on the drive is very sensitive, since she has no way of testing whether the scrambling worked, she would never know if it was successfully erase (or still usable). == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Erase a drive to sell
On Apr 4, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > But most people do not have the skills > to recover the data after a simple single pass, so go ahead and > write 0's to > it once and sell it. My understanding of the issue is that she doesn't have a SCSI machine (or a SCSI card in a modern Mac) to do this. Recall that the first time someone suggested she zero the drive, Diane replied: On Apr 4, 2009, at 9:40 AM, diane wrote: > > Unless I have a SCSI card in my old Yikes! I don't have a way to do > that. > I've heard two opposing takes on whether using a magnet is effective and/or safe. Anyone know for sure? I do know that magnets have very different properties. Those thin refrigerator magnets are done in layers and designed to be pretty strong but only very close to their surface. I expect you need a magnet that's strong enough at the appropriate distance to affect the actual disks of magnetic media inside the drive case. I have no idea if a magnet you might have around the house is capable of this, and if so, if it indeed would make the drive unusable. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail messages containing eBay links don't work (the links)
On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Tom wrote: > Now here's something else I just tried: I opened up this G3-5 webpage > in Safari, clicked on the links in my own message above, and got the > same error: "Safari can't open the page." > > Then I quit Safari, opened up this page in Firefox, clicked on the > same links in the message again, and the linked pages open right up in > Firefox. > > Does that supply any clue to the problem? Just a guess--but it could it problems with line breaks?(FWIW, the link in your previous message worked fine for me.) What happens if you right click and copy the link then paste it into an empty TextEdit document? Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail messages containing eBay links don't work (the links)
On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Dan wrote: > Good! > > Get OUT of the habit of using links in emails! Phish-type emails are > getting better and better - harder to distinguish from the real > thing. If make it a habit of NEVER clicking on emailed links, then > you won't have to worry about them. You can also look at these links by viewing the message as "raw source" in Mail. I remember the very first time I got a paypal spoof e-mail. I looked at the actual URL the link was going to, and it was obviously not the URL of paypal. Even though the look of the e-mail did a fine job of mimicking a paypal e-mail, the link was a dead giveaway. BTW, you should forward those things to sp...@paypal.com and sp...@ebay.com. (I'm sure other big companies have a similar place for reporting them.) Joe ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Multiple HDs in Sawtooth
On Mar 24, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: > If the sawtooth setup is pretty much like the gigabit ethernet set > up... you should already have three places to mound hd's in the > bottem of the case although you may have to get another hd sled, > and if you take out the zip drive you have another place. > -Jonas Yes. there are three bays in the bottom of the case. Plus you can get a double-decker bracket for putting two drives in one bay (at least in the first bay--the one toward the back of the case). There's also the spot underneath the optical drive. You can put another drive there, though it would probably be difficult to use any other cable but the second IDE bus (the one the optical drive is on) routed to that spot. ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Janine Cheung wrote: > > My files are still on the boot drive, but how can I get the harddrive > to mount? > > I don't have an up-to-date version of Disk Warrior. if I got the > appropriate version and ran it, building a new volume directory for > the disk, would that solve the prolem? If the problem is a corrupted disk directory, Disk Warrior would solve it. I've just gone through similar problems, that got complicated. (Long story.) In the end, even though I had two backups of the partition that was giving me trouble, I wasn't able to get a stable and usable one. I did the archive and install (several times) with no luck, then did a clean install thinking I could at least migrate all my stuff over using the setup-assistant, but that didn't work. I think the problem is that I was installing 10.4, but was migrating from later versions of apps that I had under 10.4.11--I probably should have done all the updates first, and then used set-up assistant to migrate stuff from the messed up drives. By that point, I was afraid of transferring something that was problematic, so I've just been manually moving stuff over. Anyway--I would definitely run Disk Warrior first. Good luck! Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't Delete Mail
On Mar 13, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: > > > > Also, I did think maybe I should reinstall Mail. > > The Drafts box is also not working. > > There's no Trash mailbox either. Is there supposed to be one? > > Can I do this without doing an entire Archive & Install? > I would use the latest combo updater before I'd do a full archive and install of the entire OS. Or use Pacifist to install just Mail (though if you're like me, the version of Mail on your installer disk is likely to be pretty old, so you'd need to update it anyway). == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: HD problems--advice sought
On Mar 9, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Charles Davis wrote: > Joe; > What I would try [Assuming that you have backups of all the files on > the HD (both partitions)]. > Keep Re-Running 'Disk Utility repair Disk' until there are no changes > from report to report. > At that point try and identify the 'culprit' file. delete that file, > and then re-run 'Disk Utility repair disk' again. [Hopefully, is will > allow 'repair disk' to now complete.] > > WHEN you get the HD to the point that everything that you want to > save is 'elsewhere'. Go through a cycle of writing Zeros [To the > whole HD, NOT individual partitions.] to give the hardware a chance > to do it's magic of mapping bad sectors. Then, re-partition as > desired, and restore things. > > Just the way I'd tackle this problem. [You did ask!! ;-)] Thanks, Chuck. I think that's the way I'll try it. On the other hand, if it's going to take 12 hours again (I've already given it more than 12 hours on 4 occasions), I might just erase the problem partition and restore my pretty nearly up-to-date backup. (Again, whatever's messed up is what prevents me from doing a full back-up right now.) I'd like to zero out the entire drive, but I don't think I have enough space to back up the "good" partition of that drive. If I trash enough stuff that I no longer need, I just might have enough room somewhere to do it. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
HD problems--advice sought
I'm got a G4 AGP with plenty of RAM (1.5 gig because I lent a 512 mg stick to another computer), 1.4 GHz cpu, running up-to-date Tiger (10.4.11) I've got two HDs inside on the regular IDE HD bus. Both are over- sized and partitioned thusly: 500 (actually 465.76GB) GB drive partition 1 127.88 GB with the OS on it partition 2 the rest of that drive 200 GB (actually 189.92) GB drive partition 1 127.86 GB partition 2 the rest of that drive I've also got a 180 GB drive in an external firewire enclosure in two partitions: partition 1: 127.88 GB with a relatively good back-up of the system partition partition 2: the rest, with backups of other more-or-less important stuff Oh yeah--IIRC, they're all HFS+, journaled. I've got a slightly out-of-date copy of the FireWire drive on a "loose" HD that was having some hardware troubles when I retired it. I use Intech's hi-cap kext to see the oversized partitions of the drives (but can see just the first partitions when I boot from a disk). My problem is this: That first partition on the big internal drive, the one with the OS on it, is messed up--not hardware. Once in a while it fails to mount, as if it's got a corrupted directory file. However, when I run DiskWarrior, it spends some 12 hours or so working on it, and then finally fails. I've booted from the firewire drive and run Disk Utility's repair disk on the drive--it identifies a ton of overlapped files, but finally fails. Usually, just trying again (restarting from the firewire or even from a disk) gets it to mount again. When I try to do a full back-up of the problem drive, it understandably fails. When I do an incremental back-up, it usually fails, but at least not until after it's backed up everything that seems to matter to me. Any idea how I should go about fixing stuff? Are there other 3rd party disk repair apps that don't rely on the same thing in my system that seems to be failing (fsck_hfs)? I'm thinking I may just get a 140 GB drive and just use the first 127.88 GB as my system drive from now on. (That way I can deal with just that one partition and nothing else on that drive.) I imagine I can clone from my FW back-up. After I've got that working, I suppose I can erase that problematic partition to re-use it. Since the problem is overlapping files and a corrupted disk directory, just a simple erase should make that partition usable again, right? If not, I can't re-format just that partition somehow--leaving the larger partition on that drive untouched? Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Dan wrote: > So how goes everyone's Safari 4 experiences? It's still the stablest browser I've used in a while. I've got the weird invisible text in Mail, and also the problem of opening links in Mail (if Webkit/Safari is already open, clicking a link in Mail opens a second instance of it). But the trade off is worth it to me! ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Mar 1, 2009, at 4:39 PM, tonycd wrote: > I pulled the drive from the FireWire case and popped it into the Blue > & White, replacing its resident IDE drive. (I didn't want to mess with > my G4 because it has a firmware upgrade for its transplant CPU. No > sense tempting fate.) The hard drive spun up the Blue & White > perfectly, displaying two of its three partitions. You don't have an extra IDE spot in your G4? If so, I'd put it in there (not replacing the drive with your regular system on it). That way you can start up on a different drive than the one that's a problem. And yes, I'd definitely install the hi-cap kext. Just to clear up some confusion: a system that won't run on a given machine is not responsible in itself for that partition not mounting. You said you ran DiskWarrior and "nothing". What do you mean? Did it rebuild the disk directory or did it report a problem preventing you from doing that? == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Mar 1, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Ken W wrote: > As a follow up, DiskWarrior did repair the problems. With the 80 > GB external, it was able to go through the entire process of > replacing the disk directory, but had an error at the end clearing > the journal and told me to contact tech support. I restarted and > ran disk utility, verified and repaired and it mounted fine. I ran > DiskWarrior again on the drive and it had one item that it fixed > and so far so good. > > Thanks for your help Wallace and Joe. DW saved my butt on more than one occasion already. I try to keep a current backup on a firewire drive myself, but when everything's hunky-dory, it's really hard to realize that it is an important use of time, so invariably when something's gone wrong, DW rescued me. I had one very scary time when it said there was something wrong with the hardware besides having a bad directory file. It took many hours to rebuild the file, but I was able to get everything I needed back and safely onto a new drive. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: questions....questions
On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Cyrus wrote: > Hmm, that's strange, the hard drive should work in either, if it's an > IDE HD. You could just install OSX on the G4, then put the HD from the > G4 in the beige, (hopefully this would work?) then move you home > folder over, and replace it on the G4 hd. I don't think this should work. The OSX install is hardware specific, and a G4 isn't the same as a beige (even with a G4 upgrade). ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Mar 1, 2009, at 9:05 AM, insightinmind wrote: > I thought OnyX and AppleJack did a respectable job of "fixing > things", directory-wise, if that's what the problem is ... Onyx does not rebuild a corrupted directory file. I don't know about AppleJack. DiskWarrior rebuilds the directory. On Mar 1, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Ken W wrote: > I am not a hard drive guru like some of the people on here with > expertise regarding formatting and whatnot, but my guess is that a > system file is corrupted? Is this really that rare of an issue? > Should I go drop a c-note and buy DiskWarrior? Not a system file, but the disk directory file. I don't know how rare it is, but it's happened to me several times. DiskWarrior is definitely worth it. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:19 PM, tonycd wrote: > Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly > the same exact problem. > > Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3 > partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Worked last time. This > time, none of the three show up anywhere. Not on the desktop, not in > Disk Utility, not even in Disk Warrior. The physical disk sounds like > it's running normally. > > Uh-oh. > >--Tony I'm not sure what computer you have, but if it's a Sawtooth, you could try opening the case and plugging the external drive into the internal FW port on the motherboard. You could also try taking the drive itself out of the FW case and attaching it to one of the IDE buses. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Steve R wrote: > Hi, > > I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 > external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The > 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered > off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, > and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can > see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. > > What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. > > > I ran into similar problems with a G3 iMac in OS X. I found that > rebooting into OS 9 to mount the partitions worked to make them > visible in OS X. > > Steve R Could be a corrupted disk directory. Maybe try Disk Warrior? I keep an external firewire drive to back up my internal drives. I've got it partitioned to mimic the internal drives. For both internal and external drives, I rely on Intertech's hi-cap kext. That means whenever I need to run Disk Warrior, it's best if I do it from the FW drive (rather than the disk) so that I can see all my partitions. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
On Feb 28, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Dan wrote: > > I'm a bit late jumping in. Was in the middle of some production > work - didn't want to risk applecramp until it was done. > > I did the normal flak-jacket install -- full backup, verify disk, > repair permissions, install, watch the reboot hang because Apple is > too stupid to get the timing right when clearing caches, enter > single-user mode, clear caches and vm with applejack, reboot, life > is good... > > A word about that installation package: Wow. Check your logs. > This is NOT a "clean" beta test, like we've come to know and love > with other apps. It is *destructive*. After making an archive of > a few pieces, Apple replaces the webkit framework installed in / > Library with one that's newer than their norm but still ancient > (and buggy!) compared to WebKit Nightly. THEN they fark with every > other application on your system that uses WebKit -- including > Mail. Then they give you the new Safari.app. > > IOW, this beta does not affect just Safari. It has the potential > to fark MANY other apps. So BE CAREFUL. > >> My first impressions are bad. As usual, new eye candy, a fancy "Top >> Spots" page that curves a miniature wallpaper of your most visited >> webpages across a window > > On my Smurf, Safari 4 happily decides I'm too slow to see such. LOL > > On faster Macs, that eye-candy is all abysmally slow. Bad > implementation of unnecessary features, IMO. My experience has been darn near the opposite of yours. I simply downloaded and ran the installer, and it's been by far the best, fastest and least crashy browser I've used in some time. (I'm using it with Webkit.) I still don't get a 100% acid test, but I'm sure that's because of some plug-ins I'm not willing to give up (mostly likely Flash--though I'm also using ClickToFlash, and have been happy with that). The only complaint I have is that when I click on a link from Mail, it opens a second instance of Webkit/Safari (both using Safari 4). I tried resetting the default browser (from Safari), but it already said "Webkit" and re-selecting it didn't stop the problem. I generally don't like extra bells and whistles, but I find myself using the "top spots" curve wallpaper thing. (It's optional--you don't have to display it or make it your default new tab or window.) I surely wouldn't describe mine as one of the faster Macs -- an aging G4 AGP with a 1.4 ghz cpu. Yet it's not at all slow (as I thought it would be). Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: best browser now
On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Dan wrote: > At 3:48 PM -0600 2/9/2009, joe wrote: >> Ha! No luck at all. Clicktoflash works fine--gives me a box for >> anything flash and lets me click to load and play them. >> >> But Safari just went all crash-happy on me again. I had one window >> with the JREF forum open and tried to open cnn.com's home page. It >> loaded most of the page, and then crashed. > > cnn crashed for me to, once, today. Lookin at it. > > And I'm just starting to look at this java nightmare coming from CNN, > via Octoshape. > <http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/02/cnn-p2p-video-streaming- > tech-raises-questions.ars> > So it seems my crashiness might be more due to java issues than flash. (I'm still keeping clicktoflash--I like it very much.) FWIW, I've gotten my cleaning up down to just two Onyx operations: under "Cleaning" I do most of the internet options (not form values, bookmark icons or cookies) and everything under "caches". That seems to give me smooth sailing until I hit something problematic. One thing I've come to dislike about cnn.com is that some of their stories are video-only. (I've never gotten their video to play smoothly, so I avoid them whenever possible.) Those stories are usually marked with a video icon, but not always. That nightmare you speak of could well be what's causing my problems. I could easily believe that I've hit one of those pages before the crashiness kicks in. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: best browser now
On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:41 PM, joe wrote: > On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Dan wrote: > >> See the "Cool plugin" thread on the G-Books LEM list. Great >> discussion re clicktoflash. > > > Thanks! That might be just what I need. Ha! No luck at all. Clicktoflash works fine--gives me a box for anything flash and lets me click to load and play them. But Safari just went all crash-happy on me again. I had one window with the JREF forum open and tried to open cnn.com's home page. It loaded most of the page, and then crashed. (I had just emptied all my caches prior to this start up, after putting the clicktoflash plug- in in my Internet Plug-ins directory.) After this crash, it now crashes trying to open ANY url I try. Usually when this happens my only solution has been to run Onyx and do pretty much everything you can do in Onyx. Anyway, I've at least eliminated Flash as the source of my difficulties. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: best browser now
On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Dan wrote: > See the "Cool plugin" thread on the G-Books LEM list. Great > discussion re clicktoflash. Thanks! That might be just what I need. ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: best browser now
> > At 6:38 PM -0600 2/8/2009, joe wrote: >> What about stability? >> > Safari 3.2.1 crashes on me regularly because one of the sites I > frequent has some funky JavaScript. This crash started with the > release of Safari 3. > > WebKit Nightly has been very very stable for me. It even handles the > bad JavaScript with no problem. I think I've had maybe one build of > WebKit in the past six months that had problems. No big deal, just > revert to the previous. Not for me. Webkit seems to do worse with the NY Times "play against the clock" crossword puzzle applet than Safari. > > > Learn what pieces are involved in what, so you don't need to do that. > > eg: the apps just don't corrupt themselves, so they don't need to be > "re-installed". I haven't had Firefox or WebKit corrupt their prefs > in years. Safari corrupts it prefs now and then tho. Caches - heh. > What a mess. When in doubt just totally empty ~/Library/Caches/. I mostly don't reinstall the entire app. Trashing the pref file never seems to help. Clearing up everything I can using Onyx is about the only thing I've gotten to make them usable. Next time, I'll try just manually emptying the caches as you suggest. > >> I realize a lot of this is probably because of the evil flash player >> plugin. Is there any stable solution (that lets you see flash >> content)? > > Yea. Most of the crashes are due to Flash. You can tell easily, if > you look at the crash log. The thread marked as crashed will have > all sorts of references to "adobe" and "flash" in it. > > There is no total solution, other than just blocking all flash > content. Flash is a horrible horrible horrible POS. > > See the thread "Flash in the pan ... aka dealing with Adobe Flash" > from October. It details how to deal with Flash, etc. I'll check that out. I don't think Flash itself is so evil. If it's being used maliciously or poorly standardized, that's something else. (Is it just Mac browsers that have this problem, or do browsers in other OSs disagree with Flash too?) I even use some flash content on my own website. (Mostly because I like the idea of a scalable vectored animation--the little splash movies that load on my site--randomly selected by a cgi script-- are teensy tiny files.) I tried for a little while using a css ad blocker. That actually seemed to work, except that it blocked a lot of good content too. I'd love a solution that blocks flash but give you the option to load it (maybe shows a little box or something). Or better yet, one that can handle flash without getting all crashy. Thanks! Joe > == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: best browser now
What about stability?
I used Webkit/Safari for a while, but it got crashier and crashier.
I've mostly used Firefox and Webkit (and plain Safari), but it seems
like they all get really crashy until I wipe out everything that I
can wipe out (which gets to be a PITA).
I realize a lot of this is probably because of the evil flash player
plugin. Is there any stable solution (that lets you see flash content)?
Joe
==
Joe the Juggler
4148 Wyoming St.
St. Louis, MO 63116
(314) 771-3243
http://joethejuggler.com
==
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mail question
This is on behalf of my sister (so the Mac in question is not in front of me). She's running Mail 2.1.3 in OS X 10.4.11 on a 1.83ghz intel core duo (I guess this is a MacBook--sorry, I should know that). Her problem is this: when replying to an e-mail, she composes her reply, then hits send, and that mail (her reply) disappears. If she looks in the Sent mail box (it's not there), then goes back to her In box, everything she just received in that recent batch of incoming mail (from the message she had selected that she was replying to and up) is also gone. (It is still on the server, though, and she can get it from a web interface, but not from Mail which apparently thinks it has already received it, even though it's nowhere to be found.) I had no idea what to tell her to try. Any suggestions? TIA, Joe ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Suggested online Mac retailers
On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:08 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Paxton wrote: > >> Right now any G4 tower less than 500Mhz is $100. They have too many. > > The reason they have too many is the price is too high. I saw G4 > Towers going for $30-35 last year at a local university auction, and > the auction produced "true" prices in my estimation since there were > multiple bidders for each G4. Ditto. I got a couple of G4 towers from RMartin (on the lemswap list) for right about $50 each shipped not too long ago. ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't Download iWork '09
On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: > Hello, > I've tried four times to download the trial version of iWork '09. > Each time the downloading process works fine, except instead of > showing me the downloaded results I get the following note. > "The following disk image failed to mount. Reason-Invalid checksum." > What does this mean? > I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6. > Thanks > That means the download failed to verify. (Checksums are just bits that tell you whether the current byte (or some other unit?) should add up to an even or odd number as a test of the accuracy of the download.) I find that very often the .dmg will mount just fine and function just fine if you merely skip the verify step--especially since you've tried it several times. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My computer
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:05 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: > The key to this Mac is: > >>> Machine Model: PowerMac3,3 > > An AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) should be PowerMac3,1. Yes. Also, on my AGP Graphics (originally a 450 mhz) the profiler even identifies it as AGP Graphics: Hardware Overview: Machine Name:Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac3,1 CPU Type:PowerPC G4 (3.3) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 1.4 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 1.5 GB Bus Speed: 100 MHz Boot ROM Version:4.2.8f1 Serial Number: XB022C40J2S Sales Order Number: 0100232123XB022C401234123412341234 ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Quitting Safari
On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: > > Safari started quitting on my eMac, using OS 10.5.6. > Every time I try to bring it up, the picture shows up on the screen > and then disappears. A note coms up saying it unexpectedly quit. > Any suggestions? > I would try trashing the Safari prefs. ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power failure-computer won't start
The motherboard reset button is right near the PRAM battery (yes--the half AA sized lithium battery). If that doesn't work, unplug it and take the PRAM battery out and leave it unpowered overnight. On Dec 26, 2008, at 1:17 AM, cheryl wrote: > > The keyboard, mouse and monitor are working fine with the G3 and they > are all plugged in to my MonsterPower surge protector. I do notice > that the light for the ground is on but the protection light is not. > > Where is the reset button? And is the pram battery that small lithium > battery thats on the door of the machine? > > Thanks! ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Why can't I update?
On Dec 16, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: > For the past two days I have been trying to update my eMac from > 10.5.5 to 10.5.6 using both single and combo method. Nothing works. > One of the reasons given is it will not mount because of "invalid > checksum", whatever that is. > I obviously need help. > Thanks Invalid checksum means that the download wasn't quite right. (IIRC, you take a chunk of zeroes and ones--like 7 of them--then you set the eighth one to zero or one so that the number of ones added up is always odd or even. Or something like that.) Often you can get the dmg to mount by just skipping the verify process. Otherwise, try to download it again. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: basic OS X finder question
On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Dana Collins wrote: > >>> In either list view or column view, select the items you want a list > >>> of, right click or control click on one of them and select Copy xxx > items. > >>> Open a new Text Edit document, make it plain text and paste. It will > >>> paste the list of names. > >>> Note that if the document is set for Rich Text Format, it will >>> try and > >>> place the actual documents. >> >> That's it! Thanks! I tried it with rtf and --since the files in >> question >> were images--it pasted the images in. > >> Yup--this works in 10.4. >> Thanks again! >> >> Joe > > Hmm... Very interesting. > > I tried this (in Leopard) as instructed to my list of Application > names. > TextEdit made a QuickTime movie out of the entries, not an RTF > document of > the entries. What happened? Sounds like the TextEdit doc was still set to rtf and one or more of the files was a movie (or something that would import as a movie). Try changing the doc to Plain Text before you paste. What Len and Clark said. . .. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard on G4 dual 450 mhz?
> > slowly, but people have done it. Simpler to spend a few bux and get a > 1 or 1.2 Ghz upgrade for it; leopard runs quite happily on that (a > gigE with a 1G upgrade is my home desktop) Get more memory too. a full > gig will be useful for a developers box. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be buying a new cpu for it any time soon, and no more RAM at the moment. I've got Leopard because I never put it on my machine (AGP G4 with a 1.2ghz upgrade). I'm still running Tiger. > >> Elsewise, would it be a big handicap for him to use an older version >> of Xcode and Panther? > > > MASSIVE handicap. Go for 10.4 at the very least. > > It does depend on what kind of programming he intends to do. D'oh--I meant Tiger. Thanks, Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Leopard on G4 dual 450 mhz?
I'm setting up a Gigabit Ethernet G4 with dual 450 mhz cpus and 768 mb RAM as a developer's computer for my girlfriend's son. I'm reading that the latest version of Xcode only runs on Leopard, so I want to know if this set up will run Leopard all right. Elsewise, would it be a big handicap for him to use an older version of Xcode and Panther? I imagine it'll mostly be an educational thing for him, but I wouldn't want it to be so slow that it's a lousy experience. TIA Joe ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: basic OS X finder question
On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > On Dec 15, 2008, at 3:41 PM, joe wrote: > >> I've got a G4 Sawtooth running 10.4.11 >> >> Is there a way to copy the filenames in a given directory? I don't >> want to copy or move the files, but I'd like to get all the file >> names to put them in a text file. > > This is in 10.5, but I am pretty sure it works in 10.4 also. > > In either list view or column view, select the items you want a list > of, right click or control click on one of them and select Copy xxx > items. > > Open a new Text Edit document, make it plain text and paste. It will > paste the list of names. > > Note that if the document is set for Rich Text Format, it will try and > place the actual documents. That's it! Thanks! I tried it with rtf and --since the files in question were images--it pasted the images in. Yup--this works in 10.4. Thanks again! Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
basic OS X finder question
I've got a G4 Sawtooth running 10.4.11 Is there a way to copy the filenames in a given directory? I don't want to copy or move the files, but I'd like to get all the file names to put them in a text file. I've roamed around Mac's help and I'm just not finding the way to do this. I'll bet it's something really simple that I'm just not finding. TIA Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: keychain G4 question
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> Sorry I wasn't very clear. It's a clean OS install (just one that I >> didn't do). There's nothing stored in keychain right now. The >> trouble is that I can't begin to use it for storing passwords without >> the keychain password itself to unlock it. I thought that just used >> the admin password or user password, but it doesn't. I re-set the >> admin password (the only account) using the install disk, but I can't >> unlock Keychain. > > Clark's advice is still dead on. Delete the login keychain, which you > can do without unlocking it. OK--I'll have my friend try this. When I was there and opened the Keychain Access app, there was nothing in the main panel, but now I realize that I wasn't looking in the "keychains" panel. If there's a locked login there, I'll tell my friend to delete that. Will it then automatically start another login keychain next time she logs in? And from then on, she should be able to save passwords (like from Mail or whatever) in the keychain using the login password that I recently reset using the install disk? Thanks! == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: keychain G4 question
On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > > joe wrote: >> I just set up a second hand G4 digital audio with OS X 10.3 already >> installed on it. I used the install disk to reset the admin >> password, >> but I didn't realize that the keychain password is also unknown to >> me. >> I can't unlock Keychain to put it to use. (There's nothing there at >> this point--I just want to use it.) >> >> Is there any way to get or reset that password short of re-installing >> the OS? > > Use the "Keychain Access" utility to delete the keychain file(s). It > should work okay after that. > > > You might be better off just creating a whole new admin user and > deleting the old one, just to burn the gunk out. > > Sorry I wasn't very clear. It's a clean OS install (just one that I didn't do). There's nothing stored in keychain right now. The trouble is that I can't begin to use it for storing passwords without the keychain password itself to unlock it. I thought that just used the admin password or user password, but it doesn't. I re-set the admin password (the only account) using the install disk, but I can't unlock Keychain. I hope I'm using the terminology correctly. For example, I just set up an account in Mail, and when you check mail you've got to re-enter the password. After you do so, a dialogue pops up asking if you want to store it in Keychain--to do so you need to enter the Keychain password (the admin account password I just reset doesn't work). Does that make sense? (This is a computer I set up for someone else, so I don't have quick access to it at the moment.) == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
keychain G4 question
I just set up a second hand G4 digital audio with OS X 10.3 already installed on it. I used the install disk to reset the admin password, but I didn't realize that the keychain password is also unknown to me. I can't unlock Keychain to put it to use. (There's nothing there at this point--I just want to use it.) Is there any way to get or reset that password short of re-installing the OS? TIA Joe ====== Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail date question
On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: > At 13:48 -0600 11/11/08, Bill Arnold wrote: > Messages received via Mail show a time on the message, > Example: Date: November 3, 2008 10:45:14 AM CST (CA) > The same time is shown in the Date Received pane for the mailbox > selected. > > What time is supposed to show for received messages,ie.time sent, > time received by ISP server, time received by Mail on my machine? You can display both time sent and/or time received in Mail. (Go View to Columns and select which fields you want to see.) Time sent and time received are often the same, but not always, so I imagine "sent" is something that comes from the sender's mail server and "received" is something from my incoming server. (It definitely isn't when Mail receives it. I have mine set to check the server only manually, so I can tell those times don't correspond to the time Mail connects to my server and receives the messages.) Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 is spelling out everything
> > On Sep 21, 2008, at 6:07 PM, joe wrote: > >> I haven't looked at this computer yet--it's one I set up for a >> friend some months ago. >> >> She tells me one of her cats walked across the keyboard, and since >> then, the computer is speaking everything, but it does it by >> spelling out things. (It's saying "c-a-t" not saying "cat".) I e- >> mailed her to check in system preferences/Speech that everything is >> unchecked. (It is.) > > apple key + function + F5. Or go to preferences, Universal Access and > deselect "VoiceOver". > > Ben > Thanks both to Ben and "thelordsservant". I'm sure that's it. That'll probably save me a trip! Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 is spelling out everything
I haven't looked at this computer yet--it's one I set up for a friend some months ago. She tells me one of her cats walked across the keyboard, and since then, the computer is speaking everything, but it does it by spelling out things. (It's saying "c-a-t" not saying "cat".) I e-mailed her to check in system preferences/Speech that everything is unchecked. (It is.) It is not any one program--but everything that's open and the Finder. Also, she says there's a heavy "box" around things that are being read. I'll probably go look at it some time this week, but I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas. It sounds to me like she got some 3rd party utility on her machine. It's a G4 AGP running 10.4.11. TIA Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
