[Audyssey] Road to rage
Hi all, I am worried. Why a new cool game like RTR doesn't get so much attention on the list? Tom, Dark and others are always here to give their expert opinions on a new product, and we all like to here that. What's up now? Only a few messages arrived till now about the game, and on the other hand, I see the activities online, it is always full of players. How should we explain this? By the way, my nick there is Mishko the Serb. So watch out! :) Best! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7308 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Train sims
Hi all, What's about the train simulations? There was one that I don't remember the name of, where you basicly use the i and k to drive, and there is another one, of wich I don't remember the name also, but that was not intended for blind but uses some speech and is farely accessible (or at least seamed so). Best, Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7308 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage
Its still a beta with bugs in it. Personally I don't see the point right now of just going round picking items and fragging. The maps right now are quite small and though I enjoy smashing computers and clocks etc its really not much fun. The radar is ok but I can barely line up before I die. And I bearly get a chance to get my bearings always get turned round. Even sod had a better replay value, heck even swamp has better replay than this does. Its a beta near on alpha which is why I am not coming out and saying how stupidly totally sucky and crap it is right now. There is no story and for what it is its actually good, sounds are spot on and the concept is good being its another mouse/ keyboard shooter and bugs are being reported and things will improve. I have played loads of ghortholans stuff and its not crap, the guy did blacksquare which is hard but really good. He has also told us the game is really prerelease and I am happy he has shared it with us even though it may not be fully ready. It reminds me of counterstrike, 2 teams 1 bad 1 good. the good guys you can get more the bad guys you can't. Saying that that game was only good if you had online play and actually had either on chat or friends in the room with you that made it good. At 11:13 a.m. 18/07/2012 +0200, you wrote: Hi all, I am worried. Why a new cool game like RTR doesn't get so much attention on the list? Tom, Dark and others are always here to give their expert opinions on a new product, and we all like to here that. What's up now? Only a few messages arrived till now about the game, and on the other hand, I see the activities online, it is always full of players. How should we explain this? By the way, my nick there is Mishko the Serb. So watch out! :) Best! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7308 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Train sims
Hmmm there are 2 of them I know about. 1. spoor sim. That is ok but was never developed after a sertain fashion. The other is by the pkd group, consisting of pkb dzk I think wisi and what was mtgames. The group died after a couple years stagnation. I backed up all the archive I think but who knows if I have it? It did almost the same as spoorsim did, and was really not that interesting to be truthfull. A lot of stuff was started but never completed to a satisfactory level. THere were a few soundpacks for lonewolf and trek but since locutis of borg has happily isimulated those and new ones are a bit better, there is not much point of them bar a few differences to each pack. I have a feeling I don't have this anymore I know that several sites of dubious nature in amongst their dubious and alegal contents may have a coppy of the game but to be honest all actual work stopped for ages due to constraints on the devs, so who knows. I don't know if I would like a trainsim, there would have to be more to it than just driving them round. its mostly a visual game, my friend with ms train sim says he can mod the engines, etc and drive them round tracks. Also do different views, crash the trains, race the trains, etc. Racing games are not in my forte unless they actually have the content. At 11:16 a.m. 18/07/2012 +0200, you wrote: Hi all, What's about the train simulations? There was one that I don't remember the name of, where you basicly use the i and k to drive, and there is another one, of wich I don't remember the name also, but that was not intended for blind but uses some speech and is farely accessible (or at least seamed so). Best, Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7308 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help finding a board game.
Hi Thomas, Yes sir, I am always amazed when I look at code from others myself. Maybe even more so than you as I don't even know what it should look like. You know just being self taught. Just for example with VB6 all of my code is in the .frm file and there is also automatically a .vbp and .vbw file. But others also create a .bas file. I don't even know how to do that or reference it. So that is weird to me before even trying to figure out the logic flow of the code etc. Pretty cool though that things can be coded in all sorts of ways and they work. BFN Jim IF code_works THEN don't_fix_it END IF j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
Hi Shaun, In winbase4.exe there is a baseballrules.txt file. So you can read up on the rules and play of baseball, even though you do not need to to be able to play and even win in my baseball game. BFN Jim Be careful reading the fine print. There's no way you're going to like it. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
sounds great! well worth the time to do it right. Thanks. again. _ From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Darren, Smile Its coming. I just want to make sure this works on a few more machines than mine. However, I have the patch created, and so far so good. I need to write up some documentation before I release it to make sure everyone is clear on what is involved. On 7/17/12, Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com wrote: Hey if you have the patch I would be interested. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7307 (20120717) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7308 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7308 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ideas for Championship Baseball by Jim Kitchen.
yeah found the file after sending that message thanks At 06:41 a.m. 18/07/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Shaun, In winbase4.exe there is a baseballrules.txt file. So you can read up on the rules and play of baseball, even though you do not need to to be able to play and even win in my baseball game. BFN Jim Be careful reading the fine print. There's no way you're going to like it. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
would be very interested, especially as those Freedom Scientific rat bags have now tied the only available ones to there own software now, which is useless if using window-eyes, and if you want to use them with some games like entombed. would be super interested please! Simon - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:45 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage
Huh crap, what a negative, absolutely it isn't I am a tester from the begnning of the project and right now is really playable. Bugs are there ofcourse, but these must be, it's a beta. I'm more like it from swamp, cause it's PVP and it's much detailed for me. Personal opinion ofcourse. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Ron, That's not what I said. What I said is that the older version of the Realspeak voices are full Sapi 5 voices that will work with Jaws, NVDA, Openbook,games, Textaloud, etc. The newer Realspeak voices available on the Freedom Scientific site only work with Jaws, Openbook, and Magic. That's the difference. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Simon, I know, but I don't think Freedom Scientific had much choice in the matter. Nuance, the company that owns the Realspeak voices, has changed the end user license on those voices, and I believe Freedom Scientific had to tie it to their products per the new license agreement the same way Nextup ties their Realspeak voices to Textaloud, Weatheraloud, and Newsaloud. Cheers! On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: would be very interested, especially as those Freedom Scientific rat bags have now tied the only available ones to there own software now, which is useless if using window-eyes, and if you want to use them with some games like entombed. would be super interested please! Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Jacob, Right, it should work with Jaws, but I haven't tried them with a 64-bit copy of Jaws. There may be some technical issues using a 64-bit program like Jaws with a 32-bit voice. So far I've tried them with NVDA, Jim Kitchen's games, and Textaloud and they work O.K. However, I have no way of knowing if Jaws and other programs will work equally well unless I test them. On 7/17/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: They should work with jaws, under it's setting to make use of sapi synthesizer as such. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hang on tom, where do I get the full sapi compatible ones? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 July 2012 13:44 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, That's not what I said. What I said is that the older version of the Realspeak voices are full Sapi 5 voices that will work with Jaws, NVDA, Openbook,games, Textaloud, etc. The newer Realspeak voices available on the Freedom Scientific site only work with Jaws, Openbook, and Magic. That's the difference. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5138 - Release Date: 07/17/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
and with nvda with a extension - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hang on tom, where do I get the full sapi compatible ones? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 July 2012 13:44 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, That's not what I said. What I said is that the older version of the Realspeak voices are full Sapi 5 voices that will work with Jaws, NVDA, Openbook,games, Textaloud, etc. The newer Realspeak voices available on the Freedom Scientific site only work with Jaws, Openbook, and Magic. That's the difference. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5138 - Release Date: 07/17/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
True, but, for example, have some other sapi 5.0 synths on this 64 bit machine that do seem to work alright, but, yes, suppose will still depend on synthesizer to synthesizer - I have tried out speech profiles with both eSpeak and another synths, like one from cereproc, and they seem alright, but, not necessarily as stable as eloquence itself, but anyway... stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Jacob, Right, it should work with Jaws, but I haven't tried them with a 64-bit copy of Jaws. There may be some technical issues using a 64-bit program like Jaws with a 32-bit voice. So far I've tried them with NVDA, Jim Kitchen's games, and Textaloud and they work O.K. However, I have no way of knowing if Jaws and other programs will work equally well unless I test them. On 7/17/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: They should work with jaws, under it's setting to make use of sapi synthesizer as such. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage
The only reason I think that the game has been quietly present on list is because of the way it was marketed. This does not reflect, in my oppinion, poorly on the creator of the product. The trouble is that the first we heard about the game was that he needed voice talent. At that point, we only knew about the game in any more detail if we happened to listen to a couple of podcasts about the game or, perhaps, saw it on Audiogames.net, if it was posted there. The difference here, as I posted previously, is that Swamp was a playable game, then we received a request for voice talent. It's basic marketing that is actually quite odd that introducing a product with a request is not as effective as offering the product then making improvements based on requests for user contribution. Also, the game is still in beta, an alpha-ish beta, and I've only known about it for three full days and a little bit of today. There's not much to say about it because it is honestly a concept right now, and any complaints have already been registered. As a final note, I would appreciate it if the developer or at least someone associated with the developer would announce updates with a link as does Aprone with his games, because it makes it convenient to pull the game from the database. Other than that, I will make only one complaint. You start out with a pretty decent weapon. While this prevents camping, which means waiting at spawn points with a powerful gun to shoot people who arrive on-map relatively unarmed, it doesn't follow pretty much any other game. The MK14 is, I think, a battle rifle. It's got the third fastest rate of fire with pistols and shotguns as the only weapons below it and several above. I suggest that the player start out with either a pistol or a shotgun and that they be able to find the mk14, but I also know that ground-breaking ideas like starting out with a decent weapon make the game more popular, it's just that there's no point in using a pistol ever when you have a battle rifle and 20 clips of ammunition for it. As a wrap-up for the list, I say just talk about it. Get excited. The Road to Rage is a good concept, and it's going to grow. Don't let it leave you behind. Enjoy it. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 7/18/12, Tomasz Tworek seal11...@gmail.com wrote: Huh crap, what a negative, absolutely it isn't I am a tester from the begnning of the project and right now is really playable. Bugs are there ofcourse, but these must be, it's a beta. I'm more like it from swamp, cause it's PVP and it's much detailed for me. Personal opinion ofcourse. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
can you use dropbox ok? I could send you a version of them that way, the file is about 690MB. Simon - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hang on tom, where do I get the full sapi compatible ones? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 July 2012 13:44 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, That's not what I said. What I said is that the older version of the Realspeak voices are full Sapi 5 voices that will work with Jaws, NVDA, Openbook,games, Textaloud, etc. The newer Realspeak voices available on the Freedom Scientific site only work with Jaws, Openbook, and Magic. That's the difference. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5138 - Release Date: 07/17/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage
Hi Milos, Well, I can't speak for everyone, but part of the problem could simply be timing. First, as far as I know Road to Rage has only been out a couple of days. At least I didn't hear of it until a couple of days ago so I haven't had any time to download the game and play it. Second, is that it is summer and my wife and I have been out and about doing other things like walking, swimming, taking our son to the park, etc. Bottom line, because the weather is so nice I'm not stuck indoors all day playing games, chatting on Facebook, or responding to e-mail when there are better things to do outside. Something like Road to Rage might be a cool game, but I'll get to it when I don't have anything else to do such as a rainy day. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am worried. Why a new cool game like RTR doesn't get so much attention on the list? Tom, Dark and others are always here to give their expert opinions on a new product, and we all like to here that. What's up now? Only a few messages arrived till now about the game, and on the other hand, I see the activities online, it is always full of players. How should we explain this? By the way, my nick there is Mishko the Serb. So watch out! :) Best! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage
Hi Dakotah, I agree with you. The way this game has been marketed definitely accounts for lack of popularity. The first I heard of this game was Saturday or Sunday. Although I vaguely recall a request for voice actors, but I took that to assume the game wasn't playable and didn't bother checking it out until the author/developer made an announcement. Which brings us to the final issue. I generally respond to posts from game developers, and if someone says so and so has a game for download I often miss it because I don't necessarily read every post on list. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com wrote: The only reason I think that the game has been quietly present on list is because of the way it was marketed. This does not reflect, in my oppinion, poorly on the creator of the product. The trouble is that the first we heard about the game was that he needed voice talent. At that point, we only knew about the game in any more detail if we happened to listen to a couple of podcasts about the game or, perhaps, saw it on Audiogames.net, if it was posted there. The difference here, as I posted previously, is that Swamp was a playable game, then we received a request for voice talent. It's basic marketing that is actually quite odd that introducing a product with a request is not as effective as offering the product then making improvements based on requests for user contribution. Also, the game is still in beta, an alpha-ish beta, and I've only known about it for three full days and a little bit of today. There's not much to say about it because it is honestly a concept right now, and any complaints have already been registered. As a final note, I would appreciate it if the developer or at least someone associated with the developer would announce updates with a link as does Aprone with his games, because it makes it convenient to pull the game from the database. Other than that, I will make only one complaint. You start out with a pretty decent weapon. While this prevents camping, which means waiting at spawn points with a powerful gun to shoot people who arrive on-map relatively unarmed, it doesn't follow pretty much any other game. The MK14 is, I think, a battle rifle. It's got the third fastest rate of fire with pistols and shotguns as the only weapons below it and several above. I suggest that the player start out with either a pistol or a shotgun and that they be able to find the mk14, but I also know that ground-breaking ideas like starting out with a decent weapon make the game more popular, it's just that there's no point in using a pistol ever when you have a battle rifle and 20 clips of ammunition for it. As a wrap-up for the list, I say just talk about it. Get excited. The Road to Rage is a good concept, and it's going to grow. Don't let it leave you behind. Enjoy it. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage
Sounds like me and my new GF. If we aren't house sitting for my folks we're either out camping, visiting an amusemet park or out doing Karaoke. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage Hi Milos, Well, I can't speak for everyone, but part of the problem could simply be timing. First, as far as I know Road to Rage has only been out a couple of days. At least I didn't hear of it until a couple of days ago so I haven't had any time to download the game and play it. Second, is that it is summer and my wife and I have been out and about doing other things like walking, swimming, taking our son to the park, etc. Bottom line, because the weather is so nice I'm not stuck indoors all day playing games, chatting on Facebook, or responding to e-mail when there are better things to do outside. Something like Road to Rage might be a cool game, but I'll get to it when I don't have anything else to do such as a rainy day. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am worried. Why a new cool game like RTR doesn't get so much attention on the list? Tom, Dark and others are always here to give their expert opinions on a new product, and we all like to here that. What's up now? Only a few messages arrived till now about the game, and on the other hand, I see the activities online, it is always full of players. How should we explain this? By the way, my nick there is Mishko the Serb. So watch out! :) Best! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage
Hi Tom, Oh that's really nice. I don't know what the weather is like there now, but I certainly didn't want to make you understand me wrongly. I said that we are just used to hearing from you all the time, but the family and the private life should of course be always in the first place. Best, Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage Hi Milos, Well, I can't speak for everyone, but part of the problem could simply be timing. First, as far as I know Road to Rage has only been out a couple of days. At least I didn't hear of it until a couple of days ago so I haven't had any time to download the game and play it. Second, is that it is summer and my wife and I have been out and about doing other things like walking, swimming, taking our son to the park, etc. Bottom line, because the weather is so nice I'm not stuck indoors all day playing games, chatting on Facebook, or responding to e-mail when there are better things to do outside. Something like Road to Rage might be a cool game, but I'll get to it when I don't have anything else to do such as a rainy day. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am worried. Why a new cool game like RTR doesn't get so much attention on the list? Tom, Dark and others are always here to give their expert opinions on a new product, and we all like to here that. What's up now? Only a few messages arrived till now about the game, and on the other hand, I see the activities online, it is always full of players. How should we explain this? By the way, my nick there is Mishko the Serb. So watch out! :) Best! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7309 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7309 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help finding a board game.
Hi Jim, I bet. It sounds to me like you just put all your code directly into the main form, the frm file, instead of breaking your games up into reusable modules. Its actually quite easy to create reusable bas files. If memory serves me correctly all you have to do is create a new bas file in Visual Basic 6, and as long as your subs and functions are set to public then the rest of your program can access them. For example, here is a sample function. Public Function AddNumbers(num1 As Integer, num2 As Integer) As Integer result as Integer = num1 + num2 return result End Function Because this function is specifically set to public access your entire Visual Basic application can access this function in any form or bas module.The advantage of putting your code in bas modules is if you have x number of programs that require access to the AddNumbers() function you can simply copy the correct bas file into your new project and add it to your project in the VB 6 IDE. To give you a better idea how a trained Visual Basic developer would design a game we basically split each component of the game up into modules that handle a specific area of the game. One might handle just audio, another just keyboard input, another joystick input,another one contains common functions, etc. In this way we aren't cramming the entire program into the main form. In fact, the main form simply is there to draw the window, and call sub Main() wherever it is placed in the program. The rest of the code for the game is split up among several bas modules. You can have both internal functions that only are visible to the current module by setting them to private, and public functions visible to your entire program simply by specifying they are public. VB.net handles things a bit differently. Since VB.net is more object oriented you have to create a class module, and then use the import statement to import a class module in your code. However, since you aren't familiar with VB.net I won't bore you with all the differences between VB 6 and VB.net. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Yes sir, I am always amazed when I look at code from others myself. Maybe even more so than you as I don't even know what it should look like. You know just being self taught. Just for example with VB6 all of my code is in the .frm file and there is also automatically a .vbp and .vbw file. But others also create a .bas file. I don't even know how to do that or reference it. So that is weird to me before even trying to figure out the logic flow of the code etc. Pretty cool though that things can be coded in all sorts of ways and they work. BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Ben, As I have said before the only way to get the full Sapi 5 Realspeak voices is off the disc that shipped with Openbook 8, Jaws, 8 or, Jaws 9.If you do not have that disc I can't just give you the voices. All I'm going to be giving people is a patch to fix the installer so they can be installed on newer Windows operating systems, but I'm not sharing the voices themselves. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: Hang on tom, where do I get the full sapi compatible ones? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Simon, AhemThat would be software piracy. Please take this discussion of sharing the files via Dropbox immediately off list. Thanks. On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: can you use dropbox ok? I could send you a version of them that way, the file is about 690MB. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage
I for one would be more then happy to do a voice for the game. I am just tied up all day every day now with my 4 month old daughter and don't have the time. _ From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage Hi Milos, Well, I can't speak for everyone, but part of the problem could simply be timing. First, as far as I know Road to Rage has only been out a couple of days. At least I didn't hear of it until a couple of days ago so I haven't had any time to download the game and play it. Second, is that it is summer and my wife and I have been out and about doing other things like walking, swimming, taking our son to the park, etc. Bottom line, because the weather is so nice I'm not stuck indoors all day playing games, chatting on Facebook, or responding to e-mail when there are better things to do outside. Something like Road to Rage might be a cool game, but I'll get to it when I don't have anything else to do such as a rainy day. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am worried. Why a new cool game like RTR doesn't get so much attention on the list? Tom, Dark and others are always here to give their expert opinions on a new product, and we all like to here that. What's up now? Only a few messages arrived till now about the game, and on the other hand, I see the activities online, it is always full of players. How should we explain this? By the way, my nick there is Mishko the Serb. So watch out! :) Best! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7309 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7309 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Quest and Informer.
Hi Mike, Informer? What is Informer? Do you mean Inform 7? If you are talking about the Inform toolkit it is fairly straight forward to use. You can write your code in Notepad, and then paste it into the Inform 7 program to compile. Although, the Inform 7 program is fairly screen reader friendly anyway. Plus the Inform language is fairly easy to learn. For example, the line Michael is a Man. would create a new Man object named Michael. Writing something like Michael is in the living room. would place our Michael character in the living room. Inform uses real world syntax and language which makes it easier for non-programmers to pick up and learn. You still have to write the code correctly, but once you pick up the basic gist of how to do things it will be extremely simple. On 7/17/12, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, To all of those who have used Quest and Informer. I am trying to find out which one is the best tool kit to use if you are totally blind? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi. You should also be able to get the voices to install by running the installer in compatibility mode imitating windows xp. I know that's what makes the difference trying to install the ATT voices. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.16 portable. On 7/17/2012 12:45 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Valiant, No. That won't work in the case of the Realspeak voices, because I've tried it. It gives you an error about this product is not compatible with 64-bit computers and bombs out of the install. I know exactly what the problem is, and have fixed it. Freedom Scientific created a special launch condition to refuse to install on 64-bit operating systems and it refuses weather you are in compatibility mode or not. On 7/18/12, Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com wrote: Hi. You should also be able to get the voices to install by running the installer in compatibility mode imitating windows xp. I know that's what makes the difference trying to install the ATT voices. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.16 portable. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Simon, Yes, its absolutely software piracy. It makes no difference if Nuance, Freedom Scientific, etc makes it available or not. The law is the law. It amazes me how many people fail to understand copyright law. It is all rapped up in that end user license agreement you get with your software product. If it says you are not to resell, share, or redistribute the software with a third-party that is exactly what it means. If the company decides to stop selling the product it does not suddenly make it legal to share the software with a third-party. The end user license agreement is still legally enforcible in the United States, Canida, United Kingdom, and wherever else the software was sold. I would agree with many that this sucks, is often unfair, but that is the way copyright law works. Believe me when I say I'm not a fan of copyright law. If I legally could I'd give the software away too. However, as our list attempts to keep everything on the up and up I can not legally just pass on the voices to anyone who wants a copy. Cheers! On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: not really, as they are not technically available any more, so does that really matter? I got mine as a download in the first place, so I am not even passing them on from an original disk either. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Train sims
Hi Shaun, You are right to a point. Part of the attraction to train simulators like Microsoft Train Simulator is the visual graphics. As you drive your train you can get side views of houses, farms, forests, etc as you pass them. We can sort of get this feeling by having the sound of forests, farms, etc as we pass them but its just not the same as looking at them. The other attraction is that you can select the type of train you want to drive. Everything from classic steam engines, to diesel engines, and I believe some electric engines as well. That means that depending on the type of engine you decided to select it can get pretty involved in driving the train. If you selected, for example, a steam engine you have to be careful how much coal you transfer from the coal tender into the engine. if you get the fires too hot the boilers will get too hot and explode. If you don'tkeep the boiler hot enough your engine won't move fast enough to make deliveries on time. You have to keep your eye on the pressure gages to make sure you have a full head of steam to keep the engine running, but not enough steam to cause the boilers to explode. Besides that you need to break properly slow during curves, speed up on the straight aways, and that's not easy because you need to have a good idea when to start slowing the train before you reach the curve or you'll wreck and so on. Let's just say its anything but simple driving a classic steam engine. I'm pretty sure a train simulator could be made accessible, but I don't know how much we'd get out of it because as I said earlier a lot of the attraction for sighted players is the visual graphics. I suppose some blind train enthusiasts might still like it, but I don't know if anyone else would. I think I might like such a game since I like old trains, and having a game driving a train during the old West would be kind of cool. Cheers! On 7/18/12, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm there are 2 of them I know about. 1. spoor sim. That is ok but was never developed after a sertain fashion. The other is by the pkd group, consisting of pkb dzk I think wisi and what was mtgames. The group died after a couple years stagnation. I backed up all the archive I think but who knows if I have it? It did almost the same as spoorsim did, and was really not that interesting to be truthfull. A lot of stuff was started but never completed to a satisfactory level. THere were a few soundpacks for lonewolf and trek but since locutis of borg has happily isimulated those and new ones are a bit better, there is not much point of them bar a few differences to each pack. I have a feeling I don't have this anymore I know that several sites of dubious nature in amongst their dubious and alegal contents may have a coppy of the game but to be honest all actual work stopped for ages due to constraints on the devs, so who knows. I don't know if I would like a trainsim, there would have to be more to it than just driving them round. its mostly a visual game, my friend with ms train sim says he can mod the engines, etc and drive them round tracks. Also do different views, crash the trains, race the trains, etc. Racing games are not in my forte unless they actually have the content. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Wednesday's games at www.Out-Of-Sight.net
Here are the games scheduled for Wednesday, July 18th: Chess Chat 1:00 PM eastern Hosted by Alan and Charles Location: Chess Castle Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess! We will tell you How You Can Learn to Play Chess Absolutely free of cost, including receiving a free full size highest quality Adaptive Chess Set! The Gymnastics of the Brain or The Martial Arts of the Mind feel the Thrill of Victory and the Agony of Defeat or just have lots of fun, a fantastic hobby, wonderful inexpensive recreation, playing Blind or sighted people alike. A great way to meet others, take this games of Kings to whatever level you like! Each Week, We will be discussing all aspects of this great Sport, from how to get started, to improving your game if you play already! Each Wednesday at 1 PM eaST in the Chess Castle. Yes, blind people can, and do play chess! Chat Room. Hope to see you there! Jeopardy 9:15 PM eastern Hosted by Kathy Mertz Location: Game Zone Do you know the answer? If so, you need to phrase it in the form of a question, because: THIS! IS! JEOPARDY! Come join me for the granddaddy of all trivia games. We will play as if we were on TV, with Jeopardy, double Jeopardy, and final Jeopardy, with three daily doubles and brain teasers galore. I'm looking forward to adding you to a team. The categories for tonight's game are: Jeopardy 1. Good Old Planet Earth 2. Special Days 3. Ten and Up Double Jeopardy 1. 3-Letter Verbs 2. I Need Some Space 3. Quotations in Literature Have a fantastic day! --- Real Presidents don't apologize for their Country, and Real First Ladies are ALWAYS Proud of their Country! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Train sims
And you forgot to mention a possible holdup! Heh heh heh. Stick 'em up, and give me all your games! --- Real Presidents don't apologize for their Country, and Real First Ladies are ALWAYS Proud of their Country! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Train sims Hi Shaun, You are right to a point. Part of the attraction to train simulators like Microsoft Train Simulator is the visual graphics. As you drive your train you can get side views of houses, farms, forests, etc as you pass them. We can sort of get this feeling by having the sound of forests, farms, etc as we pass them but its just not the same as looking at them. The other attraction is that you can select the type of train you want to drive. Everything from classic steam engines, to diesel engines, and I believe some electric engines as well. That means that depending on the type of engine you decided to select it can get pretty involved in driving the train. If you selected, for example, a steam engine you have to be careful how much coal you transfer from the coal tender into the engine. if you get the fires too hot the boilers will get too hot and explode. If you don'tkeep the boiler hot enough your engine won't move fast enough to make deliveries on time. You have to keep your eye on the pressure gages to make sure you have a full head of steam to keep the engine running, but not enough steam to cause the boilers to explode. Besides that you need to break properly slow during curves, speed up on the straight aways, and that's not easy because you need to have a good idea when to start slowing the train before you reach the curve or you'll wreck and so on. Let's just say its anything but simple driving a classic steam engine. I'm pretty sure a train simulator could be made accessible, but I don't know how much we'd get out of it because as I said earlier a lot of the attraction for sighted players is the visual graphics. I suppose some blind train enthusiasts might still like it, but I don't know if anyone else would. I think I might like such a game since I like old trains, and having a game driving a train during the old West would be kind of cool. Cheers! On 7/18/12, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm there are 2 of them I know about. 1. spoor sim. That is ok but was never developed after a sertain fashion. The other is by the pkd group, consisting of pkb dzk I think wisi and what was mtgames. The group died after a couple years stagnation. I backed up all the archive I think but who knows if I have it? It did almost the same as spoorsim did, and was really not that interesting to be truthfull. A lot of stuff was started but never completed to a satisfactory level. THere were a few soundpacks for lonewolf and trek but since locutis of borg has happily isimulated those and new ones are a bit better, there is not much point of them bar a few differences to each pack. I have a feeling I don't have this anymore I know that several sites of dubious nature in amongst their dubious and alegal contents may have a coppy of the game but to be honest all actual work stopped for ages due to constraints on the devs, so who knows. I don't know if I would like a trainsim, there would have to be more to it than just driving them round. its mostly a visual game, my friend with ms train sim says he can mod the engines, etc and drive them round tracks. Also do different views, crash the trains, race the trains, etc. Racing games are not in my forte unless they actually have the content. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
as far as I am concerned, STUFF! THE! STUPID! LAW! also, I didn't get that end user license agreement with my version of the realspeak voices anyway, so therefore, don't consider myself bound by it. Simon - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Simon, Yes, its absolutely software piracy. It makes no difference if Nuance, Freedom Scientific, etc makes it available or not. The law is the law. It amazes me how many people fail to understand copyright law. It is all rapped up in that end user license agreement you get with your software product. If it says you are not to resell, share, or redistribute the software with a third-party that is exactly what it means. If the company decides to stop selling the product it does not suddenly make it legal to share the software with a third-party. The end user license agreement is still legally enforcible in the United States, Canida, United Kingdom, and wherever else the software was sold. I would agree with many that this sucks, is often unfair, but that is the way copyright law works. Believe me when I say I'm not a fan of copyright law. If I legally could I'd give the software away too. However, as our list attempts to keep everything on the up and up I can not legally just pass on the voices to anyone who wants a copy. Cheers! On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: not really, as they are not technically available any more, so does that really matter? I got mine as a download in the first place, so I am not even passing them on from an original disk either. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Road to rage
Swamp has much better handling for me- mouse and all, not to mention sounds. While it's not really fair to compare the two games...it's hard not to do. If you like PvP, I guess Road's okay since it's one of the few in that catagory, but if you like shooting games...it still needs lots of work to make it on par with SOD or Swamp in my opinion. The bleeps get a bit annoying after awhile. There's no specs on what gun does what. The directional control is confusing as heck if you don't have very good hearing. Also dies too easily when you're just learning the game- it needs a practice mode when you can at least learn to aim and navigate. Also some of those background machine sounds are way too loud. Over all, after 2 hours of play, I feel it's a so-so game with alot of growing protentials and maybe lots of replay value for those who like player killing. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Train sims
Hi Charles, Grin. Now, that would be an interesting addition. The Microsoft version didn't have hold ups, but I could imagine a Wild West version that did. Lol! On 7/18/12, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: And you forgot to mention a possible holdup! Heh heh heh. Stick 'em up, and give me all your games! --- Real Presidents don't apologize for their Country, and Real First Ladies are ALWAYS Proud of their Country! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi. In that case, I appreciate your efforts, and would definitely like to have that patch you mentioned. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.20 portable. On 7/18/2012 12:01 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Valiant, No. That won't work in the case of the Realspeak voices, because I've tried it. It gives you an error about this product is not compatible with 64-bit computers and bombs out of the install. I know exactly what the problem is, and have fixed it. Freedom Scientific created a special launch condition to refuse to install on 64-bit operating systems and it refuses weather you are in compatibility mode or not. On 7/18/12, Valiant8086valiant8...@lavabit.com wrote: Hi. You should also be able to get the voices to install by running the installer in compatibility mode imitating windows xp. I know that's what makes the difference trying to install the ATT voices. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.16 portable. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Simon, I understand your feelings, but I'm only the messenger here. I didn't make the laws. :D As far as the license agreement goes unless someone changed the installer you did get the end user license. When you run the Realspeak setup on the second screen you get a license agreement to accept or not. You have to accept it to continue. If you didn't get this screen then you must have a modified installer. If you checked the I Agree checkbox to continue then you legally agreed to be bound by the license. Checking that checkbox is the same as signing it. Cheers! On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: as far as I am concerned, STUFF! THE! STUPID! LAW! also, I didn't get that end user license agreement with my version of the realspeak voices anyway, so therefore, don't consider myself bound by it. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation
Hello everyone, I have just uploaded the new 64-bit patched installer for the Realspeak voices. The instructions for patching the install is located in the file Readme.txt inside the zip file. You can download the patch at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/extras/Realspeak-64-bit-Installer.zip and do let me know how it goes. I've only tried this out on my machine with a few games and applications, and I'd be interested to know of any problems and/or issues you encounter. Success stories too. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation
Seens to have workjed perfectly and i would like to share that link on a couple (literally 2 other) mailing lists, where there might also be people who would really appreciate it, if that's alright with you? And, BTW, am currently typing this message with jaws 13 set to use scansoft daniel, on windows7 64 bit, but did also make sure voices are now showing up in my standard MP3 generating bit of software, DSpeech, and worked fine - thanks for your efforts. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation Hello everyone, I have just uploaded the new 64-bit patched installer for the Realspeak voices. The instructions for patching the install is located in the file Readme.txt inside the zip file. You can download the patch at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/extras/Realspeak-64-bit-Installer.zip and do let me know how it goes. I've only tried this out on my machine with a few games and applications, and I'd be interested to know of any problems and/or issues you encounter. Success stories too. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation
Thank you Tom for this patch. Now all my brother and I have to do is to find our old dik with the voices on it. It will be nice to be able to use Samatha and I think the one male voice tht we liked to use was Mike. Many Many thanks once again. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:40 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation Hello everyone, I have just uploaded the new 64-bit patched installer for the Realspeak voices. The instructions for patching the install is located in the file Readme.txt inside the zip file. You can download the patch at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/extras/Realspeak-64-bit-Installer.zip and do let me know how it goes. I've only tried this out on my machine with a few games and applications, and I'd be interested to know of any problems and/or issues you encounter. Success stories too. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation
Hi Ron, There is no Realspeak voice named Mike. The disc that shipped with Jaws and Open book included Daniel, Emily, Lee, Caren, Samantha, Jill, Tom, and a couple Spanish voices. Perhaps you are thinking of Realspeak Tom? :D Cheers! On 7/18/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Thank you Tom for this patch. Now all my brother and I have to do is to find our old dik with the voices on it. It will be nice to be able to use Samatha and I think the one male voice tht we liked to use was Mike. Many Many thanks once again. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation
Hi Jacob, Go ahead. That's basically why I created the patch. I want as many people as possible to be able to use it if they need it. I figured there were plenty of people like myself who wanted to use the older Realspeak Solo voices on a new Windows 7 machine, and were unable to because the Freedom Science Fiction installer bombed out. The patch is free to anyone who wants or needs it to patch their Realspeak installer for a new 64-bit PC. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: Seems to have worked perfectly and i would like to share that link on a couple (literally 2 other) mailing lists, where there might also be people who would really appreciate it, if that's alright with you? And, BTW, am currently typing this message with jaws 13 set to use scansoft daniel, on windows7 64 bit, but did also make sure voices are now showing up in my standard MP3 generating bit of software, DSpeech, and worked fine - thanks for your efforts. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation
Legend, cheers for upping this Tom! Working fine and dandy here. Karen is headed for the Swamp. Cheers Scott On 7/18/12, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jacob, Go ahead. That's basically why I created the patch. I want as many people as possible to be able to use it if they need it. I figured there were plenty of people like myself who wanted to use the older Realspeak Solo voices on a new Windows 7 machine, and were unable to because the Freedom Science Fiction installer bombed out. The patch is free to anyone who wants or needs it to patch their Realspeak installer for a new 64-bit PC. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: Seems to have worked perfectly and i would like to share that link on a couple (literally 2 other) mailing lists, where there might also be people who would really appreciate it, if that's alright with you? And, BTW, am currently typing this message with jaws 13 set to use scansoft daniel, on windows7 64 bit, but did also make sure voices are now showing up in my standard MP3 generating bit of software, DSpeech, and worked fine - thanks for your efforts. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation
I might. It was the same voice tht Jim has for his golf course. I finally found our disk but haven't had the time to install it once again. Ron, Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation Hi Ron, There is no Realspeak voice named Mike. The disc that shipped with Jaws and Open book included Daniel, Emily, Lee, Caren, Samantha, Jill, Tom, and a couple Spanish voices. Perhaps you are thinking of Realspeak Tom? :D Cheers! On 7/18/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Thank you Tom for this patch. Now all my brother and I have to do is to find our old dik with the voices on it. It will be nice to be able to use Samatha and I think the one male voice tht we liked to use was Mike. Many Many thanks once again. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation
LOL! Freedom Science Fiction..? Will do in any case. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Realspeak Patched Installation Hi Jacob, Go ahead. That's basically why I created the patch. I want as many people as possible to be able to use it if they need it. I figured there were plenty of people like myself who wanted to use the older Realspeak Solo voices on a new Windows 7 machine, and were unable to because the Freedom Science Fiction installer bombed out. The patch is free to anyone who wants or needs it to patch their Realspeak installer for a new 64-bit PC. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: Seems to have worked perfectly and i would like to share that link on a couple (literally 2 other) mailing lists, where there might also be people who would really appreciate it, if that's alright with you? And, BTW, am currently typing this message with jaws 13 set to use scansoft daniel, on windows7 64 bit, but did also make sure voices are now showing up in my standard MP3 generating bit of software, DSpeech, and worked fine - thanks for your efforts. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Train sims
I to like old steam trains and I like you think it would be cool if we could drive in the old west -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:34 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Train sims Hi Shaun, You are right to a point. Part of the attraction to train simulators like Microsoft Train Simulator is the visual graphics. As you drive your train you can get side views of houses, farms, forests, etc as you pass them. We can sort of get this feeling by having the sound of forests, farms, etc as we pass them but its just not the same as looking at them. The other attraction is that you can select the type of train you want to drive. Everything from classic steam engines, to diesel engines, and I believe some electric engines as well. That means that depending on the type of engine you decided to select it can get pretty involved in driving the train. If you selected, for example, a steam engine you have to be careful how much coal you transfer from the coal tender into the engine. if you get the fires too hot the boilers will get too hot and explode. If you don'tkeep the boiler hot enough your engine won't move fast enough to make deliveries on time. You have to keep your eye on the pressure gages to make sure you have a full head of steam to keep the engine running, but not enough steam to cause the boilers to explode. Besides that you need to break properly slow during curves, speed up on the straight aways, and that's not easy because you need to have a good idea when to start slowing the train before you reach the curve or you'll wreck and so on. Let's just say its anything but simple driving a classic steam engine. I'm pretty sure a train simulator could be made accessible, but I don't know how much we'd get out of it because as I said earlier a lot of the attraction for sighted players is the visual graphics. I suppose some blind train enthusiasts might still like it, but I don't know if anyone else would. I think I might like such a game since I like old trains, and having a game driving a train during the old West would be kind of cool. Cheers! On 7/18/12, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm there are 2 of them I know about. 1. spoor sim. That is ok but was never developed after a sertain fashion. The other is by the pkd group, consisting of pkb dzk I think wisi and what was mtgames. The group died after a couple years stagnation. I backed up all the archive I think but who knows if I have it? It did almost the same as spoorsim did, and was really not that interesting to be truthfull. A lot of stuff was started but never completed to a satisfactory level. THere were a few soundpacks for lonewolf and trek but since locutis of borg has happily isimulated those and new ones are a bit better, there is not much point of them bar a few differences to each pack. I have a feeling I don't have this anymore I know that several sites of dubious nature in amongst their dubious and alegal contents may have a coppy of the game but to be honest all actual work stopped for ages due to constraints on the devs, so who knows. I don't know if I would like a trainsim, there would have to be more to it than just driving them round. its mostly a visual game, my friend with ms train sim says he can mod the engines, etc and drive them round tracks. Also do different views, crash the trains, race the trains, etc. Racing games are not in my forte unless they actually have the content. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Train sims
Well I think in that case our sims were just not developed enough then. I am still in the market for a sim, if its that envolved as you say it should, I'd like missions, races, other things like that the ability to fiddle with my controls and also freely go anywhere. have different views, etc. Not sure if I'd pay for that would have to be something special. At 12:34 p.m. 18/07/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Shaun, You are right to a point. Part of the attraction to train simulators like Microsoft Train Simulator is the visual graphics. As you drive your train you can get side views of houses, farms, forests, etc as you pass them. We can sort of get this feeling by having the sound of forests, farms, etc as we pass them but its just not the same as looking at them. The other attraction is that you can select the type of train you want to drive. Everything from classic steam engines, to diesel engines, and I believe some electric engines as well. That means that depending on the type of engine you decided to select it can get pretty involved in driving the train. If you selected, for example, a steam engine you have to be careful how much coal you transfer from the coal tender into the engine. if you get the fires too hot the boilers will get too hot and explode. If you don'tkeep the boiler hot enough your engine won't move fast enough to make deliveries on time. You have to keep your eye on the pressure gages to make sure you have a full head of steam to keep the engine running, but not enough steam to cause the boilers to explode. Besides that you need to break properly slow during curves, speed up on the straight aways, and that's not easy because you need to have a good idea when to start slowing the train before you reach the curve or you'll wreck and so on. Let's just say its anything but simple driving a classic steam engine. I'm pretty sure a train simulator could be made accessible, but I don't know how much we'd get out of it because as I said earlier a lot of the attraction for sighted players is the visual graphics. I suppose some blind train enthusiasts might still like it, but I don't know if anyone else would. I think I might like such a game since I like old trains, and having a game driving a train during the old West would be kind of cool. Cheers! On 7/18/12, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm there are 2 of them I know about. 1. spoor sim. That is ok but was never developed after a sertain fashion. The other is by the pkd group, consisting of pkb dzk I think wisi and what was mtgames. The group died after a couple years stagnation. I backed up all the archive I think but who knows if I have it? It did almost the same as spoorsim did, and was really not that interesting to be truthfull. A lot of stuff was started but never completed to a satisfactory level. THere were a few soundpacks for lonewolf and trek but since locutis of borg has happily isimulated those and new ones are a bit better, there is not much point of them bar a few differences to each pack. I have a feeling I don't have this anymore I know that several sites of dubious nature in amongst their dubious and alegal contents may have a coppy of the game but to be honest all actual work stopped for ages due to constraints on the devs, so who knows. I don't know if I would like a trainsim, there would have to be more to it than just driving them round. its mostly a visual game, my friend with ms train sim says he can mod the engines, etc and drive them round tracks. Also do different views, crash the trains, race the trains, etc. Racing games are not in my forte unless they actually have the content. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Train sims
That would rock if there was one. we don't actually have a full wild west game at least not a modern one. 3d fps with story, etc would cost but I'd gladly pay for that. At 01:31 p.m. 18/07/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Charles, Grin. Now, that would be an interesting addition. The Microsoft version didn't have hold ups, but I could imagine a Wild West version that did. Lol! On 7/18/12, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: And you forgot to mention a possible holdup! Heh heh heh. Stick 'em up, and give me all your games! --- Real Presidents don't apologize for their Country, and Real First Ladies are ALWAYS Proud of their Country! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Problem with real speak install
Hello all, I tried using Thomas's real speak patch and I get this error: Installer Information The file 'rssolo_synth_112mrf16.hdr.A9FB9463_8A9B_49D2_82 A1_D0DEEE4056A1' cannot be installed because the file cannot be found in cabinet file 'RSSolo.cab'. This could indicate a network error, an error reading from the CD-ROM, or a problem with this package. OK Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Greg Wocher --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
