Re: [Audyssey] Shadow Line let's play / walkthrough

2013-08-24 Thread Ian Reed
Here's the link to the thread Brian mentioned that discusses what you 
need to do to play Japanese games:

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=11309

Ian Reed
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On 8/24/2013 6:36 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote:
If you look at the general game discussion forum on www.audiogames.net 
there's a thread that discusses this very topic and explains what 
you'll need and how to get it working correctly. It's not a perfect 
solution but it'll work until and unless we get English translations 
someday.




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Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shadow Line let's play / walkthrough

What do I need to play these games? Some sort of translation software? 
And how do I set it up?


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shadow Line let's play / walkthrough
From: dan cook 
Date: 25/08/2013 12:33 am

Nice one Clement, i'll definitely give this a listen.
Also, thanks for the db link, it was taking ages to download from the
host server--well actually, it would always get to a certain
percentage and stop.  I tried it about 4 times. lol
Problem is now I've got a few Japanese games to try out, just need to
decide which one to do first.  :D

On 8/24/13, Allison P  wrote:

I would definitely be interested in listening to a part 2! though, if
I actually try to play the game remains to be seen. But still fun to
listen to play throughs. Lol.

On 8/22/13, Sarah Haake  wrote:

Hi,

I started to play this game just after I read the guide to japanese 
games.

I

already knew most of it, but now I'm using Protalker too which makes
things

a bit smoother, additionally I also got the Applocale which finally 
gets

rid

of all the jibberish on my screen. :D Shadowline is a really great 
game.

I
played the first part up to the fairy abode, unfortunately I have not
much
time for such things as playing games right now, but I deffinitely will
continue play this.

Thanks for the recording, I'll listen to it for sure and I hope 
there are

more parts coming. Although I think I'll only listen up to the point
where
I'm at now or when I get stuck to avoid spoilers. :D

Best regards
Sarah


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Re: [Audyssey] Shadow Line let's play / walkthrough

2013-08-24 Thread Bryan Peterson
If you look at the general game discussion forum on www.audiogames.net 
there's a thread that discusses this very topic and explains what you'll 
need and how to get it working correctly. It's not a perfect solution but 
it'll work until and unless we get English translations someday.




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From: lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com

Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shadow Line let's play / walkthrough

What do I need to play these games? Some sort of translation software? And 
how do I set it up?


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shadow Line let's play / walkthrough
From: dan cook 
Date: 25/08/2013 12:33 am

Nice one Clement, i'll definitely give this a listen.
Also, thanks for the db link, it was taking ages to download from the
host server--well actually, it would always get to a certain
percentage and stop.  I tried it about 4 times. lol
Problem is now I've got a few Japanese games to try out, just need to
decide which one to do first.  :D

On 8/24/13, Allison P  wrote:

I would definitely be interested in listening to a part 2! though, if
I actually try to play the game remains to be seen. But still fun to
listen to play throughs. Lol.

On 8/22/13, Sarah Haake  wrote:

Hi,

I started to play this game just after I read the guide to japanese 
games.

I

already knew most of it, but now I'm using Protalker too which makes
things

a bit smoother, additionally I also got the Applocale which finally gets
rid

of all the jibberish on my screen. :D Shadowline is a really great game.
I
played the first part up to the fairy abode, unfortunately I have not
much
time for such things as playing games right now, but I deffinitely will
continue play this.

Thanks for the recording, I'll listen to it for sure and I hope there are
more parts coming. Although I think I'll only listen up to the point
where
I'm at now or when I get stuck to avoid spoilers. :D

Best regards
Sarah


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Re: [Audyssey] Shadow Line let's play / walkthrough

2013-08-24 Thread lindsay_cowell
What do I need to play these games? Some sort of translation software? And how 
do I set it up?

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shadow Line let's play / walkthrough
From: dan cook 
Date: 25/08/2013 12:33 am

Nice one Clement, i'll definitely give this a listen.
Also, thanks for the db link, it was taking ages to download from the
host server--well actually, it would always get to a certain
percentage and stop.  I tried it about 4 times. lol
Problem is now I've got a few Japanese games to try out, just need to
decide which one to do first.  :D

On 8/24/13, Allison P  wrote:
> I would definitely be interested in listening to a part 2! though, if
> I actually try to play the game remains to be seen. But still fun to
> listen to play throughs. Lol.
>
> On 8/22/13, Sarah Haake  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I started to play this game just after I read the guide to japanese games.
>> I
>>
>> already knew most of it, but now I'm using Protalker too which makes
>> things
>>
>> a bit smoother, additionally I also got the Applocale which finally gets
>> rid
>>
>> of all the jibberish on my screen. :D Shadowline is a really great game.
>> I
>> played the first part up to the fairy abode, unfortunately I have not
>> much
>> time for such things as playing games right now, but I deffinitely will
>> continue play this.
>>
>> Thanks for the recording, I'll listen to it for sure and I hope there are
>> more parts coming. Although I think I'll only listen up to the point
>> where
>> I'm at now or when I get stuck to avoid spoilers. :D
>>
>> Best regards
>> Sarah
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Shadow Line let's play / walkthrough

2013-08-24 Thread dan cook
Nice one Clement, i'll definitely give this a listen.
Also, thanks for the db link, it was taking ages to download from the
host server--well actually, it would always get to a certain
percentage and stop.  I tried it about 4 times. lol
Problem is now I've got a few Japanese games to try out, just need to
decide which one to do first.  :D

On 8/24/13, Allison P  wrote:
> I would definitely be interested in listening to a part 2! though, if
> I actually try to play the game remains to be seen. But still fun to
> listen to play throughs. Lol.
>
> On 8/22/13, Sarah Haake  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I started to play this game just after I read the guide to japanese games.
>> I
>>
>> already knew most of it, but now I'm using Protalker too which makes
>> things
>>
>> a bit smoother, additionally I also got the Applocale which finally gets
>> rid
>>
>> of all the jibberish on my screen. :D Shadowline is a really great game.
>> I
>> played the first part up to the fairy abode, unfortunately I have not
>> much
>> time for such things as playing games right now, but I deffinitely will
>> continue play this.
>>
>> Thanks for the recording, I'll listen to it for sure and I hope there are
>> more parts coming. Although I think I'll only listen up to the point
>> where
>> I'm at now or when I get stuck to avoid spoilers. :D
>>
>> Best regards
>> Sarah
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Christina
Thanks.  :)


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Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:11 PM
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It is very accessible with JAWS14.

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> Hi.
> Is Audacity accessible with JAWS?
> Thanks.
> Christina
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:05 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audacity
>
> Hi Jesse,
>
> Well, I have never tried either one on Mac so can't really advise you
> there. All I can say is in terms of the Windows versions both Audacity
> and Goldwave have their strengths and weaknesses and that is why I
> tend to use both for a sound project. It really all comes down to what
> you want your sound editor to do.
>
> Audacity's strengths are it is free, is cross-platform, supports a lot
> of different audio formats, has fairly easy to learn and use editing
> commands, and supports a number of basic effects like echo, phaser,
> wahwwah, low pass and high pass filters, etc. It will allow you to
> change pitch, speed, allow you to change volume, etc. In short, it is
> a pretty basic audio editor for far less than Goldwave, Soundforge,
> and so on. Its disadvantages are that it doesn't have as many special
> effects and lacks some other features you might get with a commercial
> editor.
>
> Goldwave has many of the same features listed for Audacity with the
> addition of more special effects to choose from, such as flanger and
> mechanize which Audacity doesn't have. Goldwave has a CD reader for
> ripping audio CDs to mp3, ogg, wav, etc. Since a lot of blind people
> are more familiar with Goldwave and its commands its easier to get
> help on what hot keys do what, or just advice in general from the
> community just because more people are familiar with it. Bottom line,
> I think Goldwave is the better product over all, but Audacity is
> certainly a good second if you don't want to pay the $55 or so for
> Goldwave.
>
> As for myself I am beginning to use Audacity more and more mainly for
> personal convenience. I am a Linux user for the most part, and since
> there is not a version of Goldwave for Linux and there is one for
> Audacity naturally I simply do the editing in Audacity rather then
> getting on a Windows system to do a quick edit here and there. So its
> not really a case of liking one over the other, but more of using
> whatever is available and serves my purpose at the time.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 8/24/13, Jesse Gaona  wrote:
>> Thanks Thomas. Which one of the two would you would recommend running on
>> both windows 7 and Mac note pro?
>>
>> Sent from my jPhone 5
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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Rivard

It is very accessible with JAWS14.

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Hi.
Is Audacity accessible with JAWS?
Thanks.
Christina


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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:05 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

Hi Jesse,

Well, I have never tried either one on Mac so can't really advise you
there. All I can say is in terms of the Windows versions both Audacity
and Goldwave have their strengths and weaknesses and that is why I
tend to use both for a sound project. It really all comes down to what
you want your sound editor to do.

Audacity's strengths are it is free, is cross-platform, supports a lot
of different audio formats, has fairly easy to learn and use editing
commands, and supports a number of basic effects like echo, phaser,
wahwwah, low pass and high pass filters, etc. It will allow you to
change pitch, speed, allow you to change volume, etc. In short, it is
a pretty basic audio editor for far less than Goldwave, Soundforge,
and so on. Its disadvantages are that it doesn't have as many special
effects and lacks some other features you might get with a commercial
editor.

Goldwave has many of the same features listed for Audacity with the
addition of more special effects to choose from, such as flanger and
mechanize which Audacity doesn't have. Goldwave has a CD reader for
ripping audio CDs to mp3, ogg, wav, etc. Since a lot of blind people
are more familiar with Goldwave and its commands its easier to get
help on what hot keys do what, or just advice in general from the
community just because more people are familiar with it. Bottom line,
I think Goldwave is the better product over all, but Audacity is
certainly a good second if you don't want to pay the $55 or so for
Goldwave.

As for myself I am beginning to use Audacity more and more mainly for
personal convenience. I am a Linux user for the most part, and since
there is not a version of Goldwave for Linux and there is one for
Audacity naturally I simply do the editing in Audacity rather then
getting on a Windows system to do a quick edit here and there. So its
not really a case of liking one over the other, but more of using
whatever is available and serves my purpose at the time.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, Jesse Gaona  wrote:

Thanks Thomas. Which one of the two would you would recommend running on
both windows 7 and Mac note pro?

Sent from my jPhone 5


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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Will
Oh so install mac on exuernal then install windows later

Sent from my iPhone

On 24 Aug 2013, at 22:08, Scott Chesworth  wrote:

> Hey Cara,
> 
> Just checking I'm following you with this, because I wasn't aware that
> Boot Camp would run on anything other than the internal drive. Are you
> saying that so long as the copy of OS X that you run the Boot Camp
> creation wizard thingy from is running on an external, Boot Camp
> itself will work on that same drive? I'm guessing it's not possible to
> have Mac OS on the internal, and just the Boot Camp partition on an
> external drive without having two copies of Mac OS, if you see what I
> mean?
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 8/24/13, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> Absolutely! :)
>> 
>> You can install your Mac OS on that and then you'll have as much space as
>> you need.
>> From there you can choose to use a VM or partition.
>> 
>> to boot from the external you simply hold down Option at startup and select
>> the drive as you normally would with any other bootable disc.
>> 
>> It might actually even be cheaper to get a standard laptop drive and
>> inclosure separately and install the drive yourself. This can be very easy
>> to do. If you have not done this before than you probably want sighted help
>> the first time, but once you learn it it's really easy to do on your own.
>> 
>> Hope this helps and have a great weekend!
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
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>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:57 AM, Will  wrote:
>> 
>> oh i can?
>> 
>> On 24 Aug 2013, at 09:54, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>>> William,
>>> 
>>> YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can
>>> either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it.
>>> 
>>> YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole
>>> new laptop.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:17 AM, William Lomas 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still
>>> want play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to
>>> run audio games?
>>> i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really
>>> to be fair cut out for gaming
>>> regards will
>>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Will
How install windows so keep mac running iwn os


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On 24 Aug 2013, at 21:56, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> Absolutely! :)
> 
> You can install your Mac OS on that and then you'll have as much space as you 
> need.
> From there you can choose to use a VM or partition.
> 
> to boot from the external you simply hold down Option at startup and select 
> the drive as you normally would with any other bootable disc.
> 
> It might actually even be cheaper to get a standard laptop drive and 
> inclosure separately and install the drive yourself. This can be very easy to 
> do. If you have not done this before than you probably want sighted help the 
> first time, but once you learn it it's really easy to do on your own.
> 
> Hope this helps and have a great weekend!
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> On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:57 AM, Will  wrote:
> 
> oh i can?
> 
> On 24 Aug 2013, at 09:54, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
>> William,
>> 
>> YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can 
>> either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it.
>> 
>> YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole 
>> new laptop.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
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>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:17 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
>> 
>> hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still want 
>> play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to run 
>> audio games?
>> i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really to 
>> be fair cut out for gaming
>> regards will
>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hey Cara,

Just checking I'm following you with this, because I wasn't aware that
Boot Camp would run on anything other than the internal drive. Are you
saying that so long as the copy of OS X that you run the Boot Camp
creation wizard thingy from is running on an external, Boot Camp
itself will work on that same drive? I'm guessing it's not possible to
have Mac OS on the internal, and just the Boot Camp partition on an
external drive without having two copies of Mac OS, if you see what I
mean?

Scott

On 8/24/13, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> Absolutely! :)
>
> You can install your Mac OS on that and then you'll have as much space as
> you need.
>  From there you can choose to use a VM or partition.
>
> to boot from the external you simply hold down Option at startup and select
> the drive as you normally would with any other bootable disc.
>
> It might actually even be cheaper to get a standard laptop drive and
> inclosure separately and install the drive yourself. This can be very easy
> to do. If you have not done this before than you probably want sighted help
> the first time, but once you learn it it's really easy to do on your own.
>
> Hope this helps and have a great weekend!
>
> Smiles,
>
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> On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:57 AM, Will  wrote:
>
> oh i can?
>
> On 24 Aug 2013, at 09:54, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>
>> William,
>>
>> YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can
>> either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it.
>>
>> YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole
>> new laptop.
>>
>> HTH
>>
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>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:17 AM, William Lomas 
>> wrote:
>>
>> hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still
>> want play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to
>> run audio games?
>> i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really
>> to be fair cut out for gaming
>> regards will
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Cara Quinn
Absolutely! :)

You can install your Mac OS on that and then you'll have as much space as you 
need.
 From there you can choose to use a VM or partition.

to boot from the external you simply hold down Option at startup and select the 
drive as you normally would with any other bootable disc.

It might actually even be cheaper to get a standard laptop drive and inclosure 
separately and install the drive yourself. This can be very easy to do. If you 
have not done this before than you probably want sighted help the first time, 
but once you learn it it's really easy to do on your own.

Hope this helps and have a great weekend!

Smiles,

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On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:57 AM, Will  wrote:

oh i can?

On 24 Aug 2013, at 09:54, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> William,
> 
> YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can 
> either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it.
> 
> YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole new 
> laptop.
> 
> HTH
> 
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> 
> On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:17 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
> 
> hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still want 
> play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to run 
> audio games?
> i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really to 
> be fair cut out for gaming
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> 
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Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won this?

2013-08-24 Thread john
Ok, that helps a lot. I had no clue that it was possible to check 
for cloaked ships at all, I guess that's why defiant keeps 
getting hit by pairs of them.
	Is there any way you could email me the patch for the game, 
I really don't rellish the idea of searching through years of 
archived messages for it, and crashing whenever I check sector 
location or try to do the borg mission is frustrating.


- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody 
ever won this?


Hi John,

If you are getting attacked like that it sounds to me like you 
aren't
using your sensors to their full effect. Long range sensors will 
help
you keep track of where any and all non-cloaked vessels are 
allowing
you to anticipate how close they are, when an attack is coming, 
and
you can adjust your ships' positions accordingly. Short range 
sensors

have the advantage of detecting cloaked vessels in your immediate
area. It will show up as a subspace anomaly of some kind and you 
can
pretty much figure out there is a Klingon or Romulan ship about 
to
decloak and attack you so you can use that info to your 
advantage. If
you aren't scanning each and every turn for each and every ship 
no

wonder you are getting jumped.

As for how sectors work in STFC they are squares of about 100 by 
100

units with the letters A through J giving you your horizontal
position, and the numbers 1 through 10 giving you your vertical
position. So if you were in sector E-5 you would be in the center 
of

the starmap, or at least in the center sector.

I think what has you confused is in Trek 2000 it has a very 
simple
grid of 100 by 100 units. Each sector represents one single unit 
on
the map where in STFC a sector location is more like real space 
travel
with a sector covering 10 parsects of space rather than a single 
unit.
So at warp 9.7, maximum speed, it would take you about ten moves 
to
travel one sector or 10 parsects in the game universe. Does that 
make

sense?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won this?

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi John,

If you are getting attacked like that it sounds to me like you aren't
using your sensors to their full effect. Long range sensors will help
you keep track of where any and all non-cloaked vessels are allowing
you to anticipate how close they are, when an attack is coming, and
you can adjust your ships' positions accordingly. Short range sensors
have the advantage of detecting cloaked vessels in your immediate
area. It will show up as a subspace anomaly of some kind and you can
pretty much figure out there is a Klingon or Romulan ship about to
decloak and attack you so you can use that info to your advantage. If
you aren't scanning each and every turn for each and every ship no
wonder you are getting jumped.

As for how sectors work in STFC they are squares of about 100 by 100
units with the letters A through J giving you your horizontal
position, and the numbers 1 through 10 giving you your vertical
position. So if you were in sector E-5 you would be in the center of
the starmap, or at least in the center sector.

I think what has you confused is in Trek 2000 it has a very simple
grid of 100 by 100 units. Each sector represents one single unit on
the map where in STFC a sector location is more like real space travel
with a sector covering 10 parsects of space rather than a single unit.
So at warp 9.7, maximum speed, it would take you about ten moves to
travel one sector or 10 parsects in the game universe. Does that make
sense?

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, john  wrote:
> I guess the issue that I have is that 2/3 of the ships are
> cloaked, and they tend to annihilate whatever they go after in
> the first turn or two. This is especially true when they gang up
> on me. It also seems like all the ships (including the
> cardacions) criple my ships almost immediately (I just started a
> game, and in the first turn cardicia2 knocked out deep space 9's
> power). My current overall strategy is to send my uncloaked ships
> to the starbases, and have them act as protection while defiant
> goes in and knocks out enemy starbases. It seems to work pretty
> well, but I keep forgetting that checking sector location in
> non-federation space crashes the game, so I end up losing
> eventually. I'm also having some difficulty figuring out the map,
> because coordinates aren't displayed as easily as in something
> like trek2000.
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Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won this?

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Mara,

I have no idea how you got subscribed to our list, but I'll take care
of it for you. I will unsubscribe you just as soon as I finish with
this post.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won this?

2013-08-24 Thread Bryan Peterson

There's a link to unsubscribe at the bottom of most list mails.



We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Mara Steinhardt

Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won this?

How the heck did i even get on this email group? please stop sending me 
stuff.


-Mara


Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:26:35 -0400
From: jpcarnemo...@comcast.net
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won 
this?


I guess the issue that I have is that 2/3 of the ships are
cloaked, and they tend to annihilate whatever they go after in
the first turn or two. This is especially true when they gang up
on me. It also seems like all the ships (including the
cardacions) criple my ships almost immediately (I just started a
game, and in the first turn cardicia2 knocked out deep space 9's
power). My current overall strategy is to send my uncloaked ships
to the starbases, and have them act as protection while defiant
goes in and knocks out enemy starbases. It seems to work pretty
well, but I keep forgetting that checking sector location in
non-federation space crashes the game, so I end up losing
eventually. I'm also having some difficulty figuring out the map,
because coordinates aren't displayed as easily as in something
like trek2000.

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Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won this?

2013-08-24 Thread Mara Steinhardt
How the heck did i even get on this email group? please stop sending me stuff.

-Mara

> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:26:35 -0400
> From: jpcarnemo...@comcast.net
> To: gamers@audyssey.org
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won this?
> 
> I guess the issue that I have is that 2/3 of the ships are 
> cloaked, and they tend to annihilate whatever they go after in 
> the first turn or two. This is especially true when they gang up 
> on me. It also seems like all the ships (including the 
> cardacions) criple my ships almost immediately (I just started a 
> game, and in the first turn cardicia2 knocked out deep space 9's 
> power). My current overall strategy is to send my uncloaked ships 
> to the starbases, and have them act as protection while defiant 
> goes in and knocks out enemy starbases. It seems to work pretty 
> well, but I keep forgetting that checking sector location in 
> non-federation space crashes the game, so I end up losing 
> eventually. I'm also having some difficulty figuring out the map, 
> because coordinates aren't displayed as easily as in something 
> like trek2000.
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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Trouble

From another list,
1. The 2.x version has the interface very accessible to Jaws. 
However, Gary Campbell and me has written a script to make Jaws 
speech some useful info to people. The Release candadate of Audacity 
Jaws script can be downloaded from Jaws-users.com, or

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47990492/Jaws%20Script%20for%20Audacity.exe
   2. There is a guide for Jaws users from
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.0.3-Guide.html



At 11:20 AM 8/24/2013, you wrote:

Maybe I could use some tips on how to use the program, off list?  Thanks.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audacity



Hi Jesse,

Yes, I have definitely heard of Audacity. In fact, I use it frequently
on my Linux machine, and have used the version for Windows some too. I
think Goldwave is a bit of a better product, but Audacity is
definitely a decent low cost alternative to Goldwave, Soundforge, and
some of the other more expensive audio editors out there. Once you
learn the hot keys Audacity may be all you need for sound editing.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, Jesse Gaona  wrote:

Hi all,

I have heard about Gold Wave, but has anyone heard of Audacity, and if
so, what do you guys think? Thinking of getting one of these. Any
information would be greatly appreciated. (trying to create my own
game sounds)

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Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won this?

2013-08-24 Thread john
I guess the issue that I have is that 2/3 of the ships are 
cloaked, and they tend to annihilate whatever they go after in 
the first turn or two. This is especially true when they gang up 
on me. It also seems like all the ships (including the 
cardacions) criple my ships almost immediately (I just started a 
game, and in the first turn cardicia2 knocked out deep space 9's 
power). My current overall strategy is to send my uncloaked ships 
to the starbases, and have them act as protection while defiant 
goes in and knocks out enemy starbases. It seems to work pretty 
well, but I keep forgetting that checking sector location in 
non-federation space crashes the game, so I end up losing 
eventually. I'm also having some difficulty figuring out the map, 
because coordinates aren't displayed as easily as in something 
like trek2000.


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Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch.

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jesse,

Well, I will definitely give it some consideration. What languages are
you learning or experimenting with? Perhaps I may be able to help with
that. :D

Cheers!

On 8/24/13, Jesse Gaona  wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> That, in my opinion, would be great. I have been reading up on a
> couple of languages, and I think I have the gist of it, but having
> your wiki or blog with programming examples, or  tutorials would be
> beneficial to some, or most of us that are trying to program audio
> games. For me, honestly, I have never used a computer before I lost my
> eye sight. Yes, I was a gamer on XBOX, the Ps systems and NES systems
> as well, but now that I have found this mailing list and audio games,
> I can enjoy gaming once again. I think I have enjoyed gaming without
> my sight more than I did with my sight. Audio is just as great as
> graphics, in my opinion. So, if you are willing to put your time and
> effort into creating such information for us newbies
> "non-programmers,) it would greatly be appreciated. Best of luck, and
> hope to see helpful documentation in the near future.
>

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Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch.

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Paul,

Yes, Aprone's little tutorial was well written. I have been thinking
of writing something similar only with a slightly more cross-platform
point of view using Python. Using VBScript was a simple starting
place, which was good, but Aprone was thinking like a Windows user and
didn't give Mac or Linux users a leg up. My thinking is I could take
his basic idea, turn it into a Python/game programming tutorial, and
write the sample games so that they would run on any platform. When we
get into components like Pygame for input, audio, networking, etc
again it would apply to a Mac user, Linux user, or a Windows user
which would help everyone equally. :D

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, Paul Lemm  wrote:
>   Hi Thomas and cara,
>
> I like the idea of helping people that are trying to get into programing
> for the first time, hopefully this encourages more people to try and helps
> people that may be struggling to understand.  Hopefully the end result
> gives
> us more people making audio games which helps the community .
>
> Like Thomas said I know different people learn better in different
> situations.  Personally I work well with reading the theory with examples
> that I can try to write out myself to practise.  One of the first articles
> I
> read on programming was something  Aprone wrote called learning  how to
> code
> for the absolute beginner, it only ran through some very basics  of  how to
> program using VBS, but it was great since I only needed notepad  in word
> and
> I could follow what he was talking about and using his examples write my
> first little bit of programming  and then used the knowledge learnt to
> expand that program.  Although it was only a very basic program I thought
> it
> was a great article, well written and easy to follow  for someone with
> absolutely no programming knowledge.  The link to it is below
>
> http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=7297
>
>
> I like the idea of the wicki that you talked about I think it would be a
> great central point for new developers to visit  to see tutorials  etc  I
> know there have been a lot of emails recently  regarding programming advise
> requested from john, and although some of the concepts have been a little
> over my head they have been interesting and I can begin to see the
> logic/thought process of some of the ideas and been storing the emails away
> in a file for later use   when I will find it helpful so having a wicki
> where this kind of information is would be invaluable  to people just
> learning to program and wanting a little assistance.
>
> Paul

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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Christina
Thank you.
Christina


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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

Hi Christina,

As far as I know it is. I have used Audacity with NVDA and Window-Eyes
so I would assume Jaws would work equally as well with it.

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Re: [Audyssey] Game mud and interpreter.

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,

If you want to play interactive fiction games such as ZCode based
games try Zoom for Mac. I have heard it is fairly accessible with
VoiceOver.

Cheers!

On 8/24/13, michael barnes  wrote:
> Hello.
> I would like to start playing muds.
> However I would like to do this on the Mac.
> What would be the best accessible mud client to get?
>
> I also would like to play interactive fiction games aswell.
> What would be the best accessible interpreter for the Mac?
> Thanks alot in advance for the help!
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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Christina,

As far as I know it is. I have used Audacity with NVDA and Window-Eyes
so I would assume Jaws would work equally as well with it.

Cheers!

On 8/24/13, Christina  wrote:
> Hi.
> Is Audacity accessible with JAWS?
> Thanks.
> Christina
>

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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Christina
Hi.
Is Audacity accessible with JAWS?
Thanks.
Christina


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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:05 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

Hi Jesse,

Well, I have never tried either one on Mac so can't really advise you
there. All I can say is in terms of the Windows versions both Audacity
and Goldwave have their strengths and weaknesses and that is why I
tend to use both for a sound project. It really all comes down to what
you want your sound editor to do.

Audacity's strengths are it is free, is cross-platform, supports a lot
of different audio formats, has fairly easy to learn and use editing
commands, and supports a number of basic effects like echo, phaser,
wahwwah, low pass and high pass filters, etc. It will allow you to
change pitch, speed, allow you to change volume, etc. In short, it is
a pretty basic audio editor for far less than Goldwave, Soundforge,
and so on. Its disadvantages are that it doesn't have as many special
effects and lacks some other features you might get with a commercial
editor.

Goldwave has many of the same features listed for Audacity with the
addition of more special effects to choose from, such as flanger and
mechanize which Audacity doesn't have. Goldwave has a CD reader for
ripping audio CDs to mp3, ogg, wav, etc. Since a lot of blind people
are more familiar with Goldwave and its commands its easier to get
help on what hot keys do what, or just advice in general from the
community just because more people are familiar with it. Bottom line,
I think Goldwave is the better product over all, but Audacity is
certainly a good second if you don't want to pay the $55 or so for
Goldwave.

As for myself I am beginning to use Audacity more and more mainly for
personal convenience. I am a Linux user for the most part, and since
there is not a version of Goldwave for Linux and there is one for
Audacity naturally I simply do the editing in Audacity rather then
getting on a Windows system to do a quick edit here and there. So its
not really a case of liking one over the other, but more of using
whatever is available and serves my purpose at the time.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, Jesse Gaona  wrote:
> Thanks Thomas. Which one of the two would you would recommend running on
> both windows 7 and Mac note pro?
>
> Sent from my jPhone 5

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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Will,

I don't know enough about Mac to give you instructions on how to do
it, but you should be able to use Boot Camp to set up your USB
external drive and install Windows on it. In fact, if you have your
bios setup to  search for USB external drives on startup you can
install any OS on it and should be able to boot directly from the
external drive when it is plugged in.

On 8/24/13, Will  wrote:
> i have a 2 gig ram macbook air so could i just boot camp with an external
> drive?

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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Trouble,

Yeah, I know. I saw the C850 at my local Walmart store and it was only
about $600 or so around here. When Shaun said he paid $1,000 I about
fell out of my chair because he was getting charged almost double what
it went for at our local Walmart. Talk about bend over and take it up
the behind, but he got seriously screwed.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, Trouble  wrote:
> Wow, your right about getting ripped. I found that same laptop from
> Toshiba Australia from $599 to 899.
> http://www.mytoshiba.com.au/products/computers/satellite/c850#

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Re: [Audyssey] adventure at c:

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jesse,

Check the audiogames.net forum. There was a link up there for the download.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, Jess Varnell  wrote:
> how can I get this game?

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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jesse,

Well, I have never tried either one on Mac so can't really advise you
there. All I can say is in terms of the Windows versions both Audacity
and Goldwave have their strengths and weaknesses and that is why I
tend to use both for a sound project. It really all comes down to what
you want your sound editor to do.

Audacity's strengths are it is free, is cross-platform, supports a lot
of different audio formats, has fairly easy to learn and use editing
commands, and supports a number of basic effects like echo, phaser,
wahwwah, low pass and high pass filters, etc. It will allow you to
change pitch, speed, allow you to change volume, etc. In short, it is
a pretty basic audio editor for far less than Goldwave, Soundforge,
and so on. Its disadvantages are that it doesn't have as many special
effects and lacks some other features you might get with a commercial
editor.

Goldwave has many of the same features listed for Audacity with the
addition of more special effects to choose from, such as flanger and
mechanize which Audacity doesn't have. Goldwave has a CD reader for
ripping audio CDs to mp3, ogg, wav, etc. Since a lot of blind people
are more familiar with Goldwave and its commands its easier to get
help on what hot keys do what, or just advice in general from the
community just because more people are familiar with it. Bottom line,
I think Goldwave is the better product over all, but Audacity is
certainly a good second if you don't want to pay the $55 or so for
Goldwave.

As for myself I am beginning to use Audacity more and more mainly for
personal convenience. I am a Linux user for the most part, and since
there is not a version of Goldwave for Linux and there is one for
Audacity naturally I simply do the editing in Audacity rather then
getting on a Windows system to do a quick edit here and there. So its
not really a case of liking one over the other, but more of using
whatever is available and serves my purpose at the time.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, Jesse Gaona  wrote:
> Thanks Thomas. Which one of the two would you would recommend running on
> both windows 7 and Mac note pro?
>
> Sent from my jPhone 5

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Re: [Audyssey] adventure at c:

2013-08-24 Thread Jess Varnell

how can I get this game?
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] adventure at c:



It is a clever game. I just wish I had a power disc...
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, 
(KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com .

Crazy Ken
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From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] adventure at c:


Probably due to the speech on my laptop, I misunderstood.  I thought it 
said "adventures in c"  Oops?


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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] adventure at c:



It is a side scroller and pretty popular on the audiogames.net forum.
It is adventure at C:.  That's C colon, as in your C drive on a windows 
machine.
You combat virii that have infected your computer and levels are named 
after folders like "My Music", "My Documents", etc.


Ian Reed
Try my games at http://BlindAudioGames.com

On 8/21/2013 3:49 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
With no other info than the name of the game, I think of a text 
adventure game I used to play using DOS.  It was a version of the 
original cave adventure game.



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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Rivard

Maybe I could use some tips on how to use the program, off list?  Thanks.

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Hi Jesse,

Yes, I have definitely heard of Audacity. In fact, I use it frequently
on my Linux machine, and have used the version for Windows some too. I
think Goldwave is a bit of a better product, but Audacity is
definitely a decent low cost alternative to Goldwave, Soundforge, and
some of the other more expensive audio editors out there. Once you
learn the hot keys Audacity may be all you need for sound editing.

Cheers!


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Hi all,

I have heard about Gold Wave, but has anyone heard of Audacity, and if
so, what do you guys think? Thinking of getting one of these. Any
information would be greatly appreciated. (trying to create my own
game sounds)

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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Rivard
It's a free sound recorder/editor, although I haven't used it much.  I do 
know that it is nowhere near as feature packed as Gold Wave, and the editing 
features aren't as precise, but keep in mind that it is free and that I have 
not had very much experience with it as of yet, so this is from a beginner's 
perspective.


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Subject: [Audyssey] Audacity



Hi all,

I have heard about Gold Wave, but has anyone heard of Audacity, and if
so, what do you guys think? Thinking of getting one of these. Any
information would be greatly appreciated. (trying to create my own
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Re: [Audyssey] adventure at c:

2013-08-24 Thread Hunter Jozwiak
And if you thought that part was hard, wait till you get to the 
boss.  That's platforms galore, plus aereal attacks.  Could never 
kill it.


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Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict: has anybody ever won this?

2013-08-24 Thread Hunter Jozwiak

Cool! I'll have to try this game again.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Trouble
Wow, your right about getting ripped. I found that same laptop from 
Toshiba Australia from $599 to 899.

http://www.mytoshiba.com.au/products/computers/satellite/c850#

At 04:54 AM 8/24/2013, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,

Sheesh, you got seriously ripped. You don't have to pay $1,000 for a
laptop unless it is top of the line. Here in the United states an
inexpensive laptop costs between $300 and $500 for something on the
really cheap side but decent. Double that for something really good,
but $1,000 is way too high for a standard laptop. The only thing I can
figure out that can account for such a price is exchange rates and
extra import/export costs that double the price beyond what it would
be for someone else in the United States.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, shaun everiss  wrote:
> well it depends what you want I got my toshiba c850 for about 1000.
> Its going to be hard to get xp units however, ebay may help, also x
> leased systems some are sold in computer shops are systems with
> expired leases in usually from businesses.
> These systems are all reformatted and may be refurbished.
> However expect the first come first served approach if you go there.
> and don't expect the best quality that doesn't mean that you will get
> a high speced core2.
> just if you see it, get it because stock may be limited depending on
> the type letf.
> If you have winxp or a nold windows software, then you may be able to
> get a recycled system.
> Or you can build one or something.
> you are looking for a system with no more than 4gb ram, hard drive
> size does not matter but make sure you have at least 500gb else you
> may have issue loading everything.
> if you have windows then whatever it works.
> you could also use an external drive though on vmware externals run
> really slowly via  the vm and I have not decided what to do.
> I think I may end up setting a share folder for all my vms that will
> have everything I need in it.
> I still have a high speed core2 laptop and have an old slightly
> smoking desktop which once retired will suit me ok.
> I also have a barely used singlecore but not sure really.
> My plan eventually is to have some sort of server I can make emulate
> sertain environments and cpu types.
> have vms for sertain users, xp, 7 8 linux maybe dos though probably
> don't need it.
> now if only I can run tads and hugo via sapi that would rock.
> my inform 6 and 7 games will run without any issue.

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Re: [Audyssey] adventure at c:

2013-08-24 Thread Ryan Strunk
Hi Kenny,
That puzzle leaves a little bit to be desired because of the stereo panning
caused by the same sound being played at various points. The solution, I
found, is to jump, hit the arrow a specific number of times, and hope you
land. If you do, great. Remember that number. If you don't, try again with a
different number. For example:
At the first platform, jump, then tap the right arrow 4 times. If you fall,
it probably wasn't far enough.
When you get back to the first platform, jump, then tap the right arrow five
times. If you landed, the answer is five. If you fall, try again with six.
Keep doing this until you have memorized the number of key presses for each
jump.
I want to say most of the jumps were 5 key presses, but it's been a while,
so I don't remember for sure.
HTH,
Ryan

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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:14 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] adventure at c:

Hi everybody. I just tried the "adventure at c:"-game and have a quession
about the platforms there.
For example, in "my pictures"-level I will losse my lifes at the point of
the level there you should jump between platforms. I cannot land at hte
point the "knock-knock-knock" sound are because I falling down. The time you
are in the air is to short.
Excuse me for my bad ecplanation but I hope someone maybee can understand it
and give me a good answer.
Best regards Kenny 


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Re: [Audyssey] Game mud and interpreter.

2013-08-24 Thread Will
atlantis for mudding is no good as even when full text is read out you can not 
shut up the speech 
with interactive fiction titles, again, zoom is good but you can not shut up 
the voice as it reads as it is the system voice


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[Audyssey] Game mud and interpreter.

2013-08-24 Thread michael barnes

Hello.
I would like to start playing muds.
However I would like to do this on the Mac.
What would be the best accessible mud client to get?

I also would like to play interactive fiction games aswell.
What would be the best accessible interpreter for the Mac?
Thanks alot in advance for the help!

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Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch.

2013-08-24 Thread Paul Lemm
Hi Thomas and cara,

I like the idea of helping people that are trying to get into programing
for the first time, hopefully this encourages more people to try and helps
people that may be struggling to understand.  Hopefully the end result gives
us more people making audio games which helps the community .

Like Thomas said I know different people learn better in different
situations.  Personally I work well with reading the theory with examples
that I can try to write out myself to practise.  One of the first articles I
read on programming was something  Aprone wrote called learning  how to code
for the absolute beginner, it only ran through some very basics  of  how to
program using VBS, but it was great since I only needed notepad  in word and
I could follow what he was talking about and using his examples write my
first little bit of programming  and then used the knowledge learnt to
expand that program.  Although it was only a very basic program I thought it
was a great article, well written and easy to follow  for someone with
absolutely no programming knowledge.  The link to it is below

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=7297


I like the idea of the wicki that you talked about I think it would be a
great central point for new developers to visit  to see tutorials  etc  I
know there have been a lot of emails recently  regarding programming advise
requested from john, and although some of the concepts have been a little
over my head they have been interesting and I can begin to see the
logic/thought process of some of the ideas and been storing the emails away
in a file for later use   when I will find it helpful so having a wicki
where this kind of information is would be invaluable  to people just
learning to program and wanting a little assistance.

Paul 
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Hi Lenron,

Well, do to the fact my Jaw is currently messed up I am in no position to
verbally give podcasts or talk anyone through programming, but I have been
considering starting a wiki or blog with programming examples, tutorials,
and articles aimed at helping someone get started. Do you think that would
be enough?

Cheers!


On 8/23/13, lenron brown  wrote:
> I would learn better by someone walking me threw the process and maybe 
> giving me some reference material to look at.
>

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Re: [Audyssey] Audacity

2013-08-24 Thread Jesse Gaona
Thanks Thomas. Which one of the two would you would recommend running on both 
windows 7 and Mac note pro?

Sent from my jPhone 5

On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:31 AM, Thomas Ward  wrote:

> Hi Jesse,
> 
> Yes, I have definitely heard of Audacity. In fact, I use it frequently
> on my Linux machine, and have used the version for Windows some too. I
> think Goldwave is a bit of a better product, but Audacity is
> definitely a decent low cost alternative to Goldwave, Soundforge, and
> some of the other more expensive audio editors out there. Once you
> learn the hot keys Audacity may be all you need for sound editing.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> On 8/24/13, Jesse Gaona  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have heard about Gold Wave, but has anyone heard of Audacity, and if
>> so, what do you guys think? Thinking of getting one of these. Any
>> information would be greatly appreciated. (trying to create my own
>> game sounds)
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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Will
i have a 2 gig ram macbook air so could i just boot camp with an external drive?

On 24 Aug 2013, at 09:54, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> William,
> 
> YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can 
> either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it.
> 
> YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole new 
> laptop.
> 
> HTH
> 
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> On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:17 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
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> hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still want 
> play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to run 
> audio games?
> i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really to 
> be fair cut out for gaming
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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Will
how can i put bootcamp on an external here's me thinking it wouldn't run?
please reply off list to save clutter

On 24 Aug 2013, at 09:54, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> William,
> 
> YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can 
> either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it.
> 
> YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole new 
> laptop.
> 
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> 
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> hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still want 
> play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to run 
> audio games?
> i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really to 
> be fair cut out for gaming
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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Will
oh i can?

On 24 Aug 2013, at 09:54, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> William,
> 
> YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can 
> either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it.
> 
> YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole new 
> laptop.
> 
> HTH
> 
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> On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:17 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
> 
> hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still want 
> play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to run 
> audio games?
> i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really to 
> be fair cut out for gaming
> regards will
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Re: [Audyssey] bgt question

2013-08-24 Thread Philip Bennefall
Yes, check out appendix d. There you have a script property string called 
COMMAND_LINE. The description is:


COMMAND_LINE - String (the command line parameters given to a compiled BGT 
game executable. This is always empty for non-compiled scripts).


Kind regards,

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To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:34 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] bgt question


Hi all, I'm wondering if it's possible to pass in a string to a
bgt program, similar to notepad/wordpad. I'd like to be able to
use the bgt program to open a filetype, but I can't tell if
there's a way to have the program accept the path from windows.

Thanks,
John.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Cara,

Good advice. An external drive would be a cheaper way to go than
buying a new laptop from scratch.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> William,
>
> YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can
> either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it.
>
> YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole
> new laptop.
>
> HTH
>
> Cara :)

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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Cara Quinn
William,

YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can 
either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it.

YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole new 
laptop.

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On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:17 AM, William Lomas  wrote:

hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still want 
play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to run audio 
games?
i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really to be 
fair cut out for gaming
regards will


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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

Sheesh, you got seriously ripped. You don't have to pay $1,000 for a
laptop unless it is top of the line. Here in the United states an
inexpensive laptop costs between $300 and $500 for something on the
really cheap side but decent. Double that for something really good,
but $1,000 is way too high for a standard laptop. The only thing I can
figure out that can account for such a price is exchange rates and
extra import/export costs that double the price beyond what it would
be for someone else in the United States.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, shaun everiss  wrote:
> well it depends what you want I got my toshiba c850 for about 1000.
> Its going to be hard to get xp units however, ebay may help, also x
> leased systems some are sold in computer shops are systems with
> expired leases in usually from businesses.
> These systems are all reformatted and may be refurbished.
> However expect the first come first served approach if you go there.
> and don't expect the best quality that doesn't mean that you will get
> a high speced core2.
> just if you see it, get it because stock may be limited depending on
> the type letf.
> If you have winxp or a nold windows software, then you may be able to
> get a recycled system.
> Or you can build one or something.
> you are looking for a system with no more than 4gb ram, hard drive
> size does not matter but make sure you have at least 500gb else you
> may have issue loading everything.
> if you have windows then whatever it works.
> you could also use an external drive though on vmware externals run
> really slowly via  the vm and I have not decided what to do.
> I think I may end up setting a share folder for all my vms that will
> have everything I need in it.
> I still have a high speed core2 laptop and have an old slightly
> smoking desktop which once retired will suit me ok.
> I also have a barely used singlecore but not sure really.
> My plan eventually is to have some sort of server I can make emulate
> sertain environments and cpu types.
> have vms for sertain users, xp, 7 8 linux maybe dos though probably
> don't need it.
> now if only I can run tads and hugo via sapi that would rock.
> my inform 6 and 7 games will run without any issue.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Will,

Well, this is something that is always changing, but the last time I
was at Walmart, for example, I saw an inexpensive HP for about $325
with Windows 8, a 2 GHZ duel core 64-bit processor, 4 GB of ram,  and
a load of trial and demo software. Something like that would be fine
for playing games although Windows 8 and a 64-bit processor isn't too
good for a lot of our older games. However, you can find a decent
machine for under $400 depending on where you look. Also there are
always refurbished laptops for sale on Ebay with Windows XP, Vista,
Windows7, etc available which is also a possibility too, and buying an
older model that has been refurbished generally costs less than a
brand new system. Just look around and you'll find something in your
personal price range that can serve as a dedicated gaming machine.

Cheers!


On 8/24/13, William Lomas  wrote:
> hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still want
> play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to run
> audio games?
> i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really to
> be fair cut out for gaming
> regards will
>
>

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Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread shaun everiss

well it depends what you want I got my toshiba c850 for about 1000.
Its going to be hard to get xp units however, ebay may help, also x 
leased systems some are sold in computer shops are systems with 
expired leases in usually from businesses.

These systems are all reformatted and may be refurbished.
However expect the first come first served approach if you go there.
and don't expect the best quality that doesn't mean that you will get 
a high speced core2.
just if you see it, get it because stock may be limited depending on 
the type letf.
If you have winxp or a nold windows software, then you may be able to 
get a recycled system.

Or you can build one or something.
you are looking for a system with no more than 4gb ram, hard drive 
size does not matter but make sure you have at least 500gb else you 
may have issue loading everything.

if you have windows then whatever it works.
you could also use an external drive though on vmware externals run 
really slowly via  the vm and I have not decided what to do.
I think I may end up setting a share folder for all my vms that will 
have everything I need in it.
I still have a high speed core2 laptop and have an old slightly 
smoking desktop which once retired will suit me ok.

I also have a barely used singlecore but not sure really.
My plan eventually is to have some sort of server I can make emulate 
sertain environments and cpu types.
have vms for sertain users, xp, 7 8 linux maybe dos though probably 
don't need it.

now if only I can run tads and hugo via sapi that would rock.
my inform 6 and 7 games will run without any issue.

At 08:17 PM 8/24/2013, you wrote:
hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet 
still want play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for 
windows use to run audio games?
i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not 
really to be fair cut out for gaming

regards will


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[Audyssey] windows laptops

2013-08-24 Thread William Lomas
hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still want 
play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to run audio 
games?
i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really to be 
fair cut out for gaming
regards will


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Re: [Audyssey] shadow rine

2013-08-24 Thread Bryan Peterson
I suppose that someday I ought to learn how to do that then in case I ever 
get a Mac, which is becoming a more and more appealing option as time goes 
by. That way I could still have all my games and things on one machine.




We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:30 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] shadow rine

Hi Charles,

Well, I wouldn't go to say that Mac users are limited in software
choices, in the general sense, because there is quite a lot of
software for all purpose day to day tasks such as office suites, sound
editors, web browsers, etc. The real issue is accessibility, and
accessible software. The Apple screen reader, VoiceOver, will only
work with applications built to a particular specification and if an
email client, web browser, or office program wasn't written with
VoiceOver accessibility in mind forget it. That could be one reason it
seems like Mac users have less options or choices than a Windows user.

However, when it comes to accessible games the real problem right now
is many blind audio game developers simply are not creating Mac games.
They often use languages, tools, and APIs not found on the Mac. For
instance, many of the games written were written in Visual Basic 6
using DirectX 8. Neither technology is found on Mac OS X and
consequently there is no way to make them run on a Mac without being
rewritten from scratch or being run in a Windows XP virtual machine.
Since it is rather unreasonable to ask a developer like Jim Kitchen to
rewrite all of his games from scratch for a platform he doesn't even
have or use the best option is a Windows virtual machine for all
involved.

Will's problem is he doesn't want to run a Windows virtual machine or
install Windows into a separate partition using Boot Camp. Well,
that's going to be his problem, because I highly doubt many developers
will ever port their games from Windows to Mac. Its one of the prices
one has to accept when choosing to use a different platform and OS.
Not everyone is going to be using what you are using, and you make do
with what you have even if that means virtualizing Windows for the
handful of apps and games not available on your OS of choice. So by
refusing to do this Will is blowing his own foot off proverbially
speaking.

For example, I use Linux for most of my day to day computer use. I
think everyone or almost everyone on the list knows that. All the same
I don't email GMA and ask them to rewrite Tank Commander, Lone Wolf,
Time of Conflict, etc just so I can have a Linux version. I'd be
elated if they did, but I know that it would be a long difficult task
without a lot of financial investment for David Greenwood so don't
bother making an issue of it. That is why I keep a Windows computer on
hand for running a few things like the GMA Games that won't run on
Linux. It is all a part of my choice not to use Windows full time. Mac
users will have to face the same realities I have. However, if I
refused to use a Windows virtual machine or keep a Windows computer on
hand I'd only be shooting myself in the foot and I know it.

Cheers!


On 8/23/13, Charles Rivard  wrote:

I don't know about now, but it used to be that Mac users were very limited
when it came to software choices.  I know that Windows software can now be
run on a Mac, although I don't exactly know how, because I am a Windows 
user


unless I am using my iPhone.  Maybe your choice to not have anything to do
with Windows on your machine is shooting yourself in the proverbial foot?

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