Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
Okay, where to get this game? Cheers --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
I just posted two links for it, so you should find it as you read through the messages. if not, let me know. Ken Downey The Addictor www.TheAddictor.com - Original Message - From: lirin seal11...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question Okay, where to get this game? Cheers --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
Sadly, havent these messages --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
could you re-post the links to download them? - Original Message - From: The Addictor kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question Hey Chris, Glad you like the air hockey game. First, the paddle used to be constant, but it got annoying if I wanted to switch to keyboard for a while. However, I can see you point and will loop it again for the next release. As for announcing the score, I'll have to turn it into a self-voicing game for that, because I get a run-time error when the mouse is moving at the same time sapi is speaking. No idea why. For now, use the mouse wheel to announce scoring. The up and down arrows control how much friction there is between the puck and table. The lower the number, the more air is being pumped out and therefore, the less friction you have. High numbers mean the puck slows down rapidly. What do the rest of you think? What else do you want in this game--and if you say online play, then one of you other vb6 experts will have to handle it, because I have absolutely no clue how to set that kind of thing up. Ken Downey The Addictor www.TheAddictor.com - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air hockey question Hey Ken, just tried your air hockey game. Some thoughts and a question. I never really knew where I was in the game until the score was announced at the end. It might be nice to have goals announced with the score. And what is happening if you hit up and down arrow and are hearing numbers? Is this some sort of mouse speed thing? Also, it might be nice to have a constant sound for the paddle; I found myself not always knowing where I was in relation to the goal and the puck, since I couldn't hear the paddle unless I moved it, and there was a noticeable delay between gestures and the sound. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Air hockey question
Hey Ken, just tried your air hockey game. Some thoughts and a question. I never really knew where I was in the game until the score was announced at the end. It might be nice to have goals announced with the score. And what is happening if you hit up and down arrow and are hearing numbers? Is this some sort of mouse speed thing? Also, it might be nice to have a constant sound for the paddle; I found myself not always knowing where I was in relation to the goal and the puck, since I couldn't hear the paddle unless I moved it, and there was a noticeable delay between gestures and the sound. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
How did you get the game started? I clicked on the desktop icon and it does nothing at all. Same thing happens on Wrecking Ball. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air hockey question Hey Ken, just tried your air hockey game. Some thoughts and a question. I never really knew where I was in the game until the score was announced at the end. It might be nice to have goals announced with the score. And what is happening if you hit up and down arrow and are hearing numbers? Is this some sort of mouse speed thing? Also, it might be nice to have a constant sound for the paddle; I found myself not always knowing where I was in relation to the goal and the puck, since I couldn't hear the paddle unless I moved it, and there was a noticeable delay between gestures and the sound. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
Who makes Air Hockey and Wrecking Ball? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
Ah, ignore my previous question, for this message tells me the answer. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
I haven't tried wrecking ball, but Air Hockey announces itself then presents the puck sound. Move the mouse or trackpad upward to serve. If you're not even getting that much, I don't know what's going on. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question How did you get the game started? I clicked on the desktop icon and it does nothing at all. Same thing happens on Wrecking Ball. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air hockey question Hey Ken, just tried your air hockey game. Some thoughts and a question. I never really knew where I was in the game until the score was announced at the end. It might be nice to have goals announced with the score. And what is happening if you hit up and down arrow and are hearing numbers? Is this some sort of mouse speed thing? Also, it might be nice to have a constant sound for the paddle; I found myself not always knowing where I was in relation to the goal and the puck, since I couldn't hear the paddle unless I moved it, and there was a noticeable delay between gestures and the sound. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
Hey Chris, Glad you like the air hockey game. First, the paddle used to be constant, but it got annoying if I wanted to switch to keyboard for a while. However, I can see you point and will loop it again for the next release. As for announcing the score, I'll have to turn it into a self-voicing game for that, because I get a run-time error when the mouse is moving at the same time sapi is speaking. No idea why. For now, use the mouse wheel to announce scoring. The up and down arrows control how much friction there is between the puck and table. The lower the number, the more air is being pumped out and therefore, the less friction you have. High numbers mean the puck slows down rapidly. What do the rest of you think? What else do you want in this game--and if you say online play, then one of you other vb6 experts will have to handle it, because I have absolutely no clue how to set that kind of thing up. Ken Downey The Addictor www.TheAddictor.com - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air hockey question Hey Ken, just tried your air hockey game. Some thoughts and a question. I never really knew where I was in the game until the score was announced at the end. It might be nice to have goals announced with the score. And what is happening if you hit up and down arrow and are hearing numbers? Is this some sort of mouse speed thing? Also, it might be nice to have a constant sound for the paddle; I found myself not always knowing where I was in relation to the goal and the puck, since I couldn't hear the paddle unless I moved it, and there was a noticeable delay between gestures and the sound. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
That's weird--I'm using the exact same version you are, and it starts okay. Is your sapi 5 working? Ken Downey The Addictor www.TheAddictor.com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question How did you get the game started? I clicked on the desktop icon and it does nothing at all. Same thing happens on Wrecking Ball. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air hockey question Hey Ken, just tried your air hockey game. Some thoughts and a question. I never really knew where I was in the game until the score was announced at the end. It might be nice to have goals announced with the score. And what is happening if you hit up and down arrow and are hearing numbers? Is this some sort of mouse speed thing? Also, it might be nice to have a constant sound for the paddle; I found myself not always knowing where I was in relation to the goal and the puck, since I couldn't hear the paddle unless I moved it, and there was a noticeable delay between gestures and the sound. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question
I'm not sure which version of voices I have, but it might be a clue if I tell you that it is ScanSoft Tom that came with an earlier version of JAWS. It works with other games such as those from Jim Kitchen. I don't even think I'm getting to the point at which the voice would kick in, because it just stays at the desktop icon. The same thing happens if I go into the c:\program files\air hockey or c:\program files\wrecking ball folders and hit enter on the air hockey or wrecking ball file. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: The Addictor kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question That's weird--I'm using the exact same version you are, and it starts okay. Is your sapi 5 working? Ken Downey The Addictor www.TheAddictor.com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air hockey question How did you get the game started? I clicked on the desktop icon and it does nothing at all. Same thing happens on Wrecking Ball. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air hockey question Hey Ken, just tried your air hockey game. Some thoughts and a question. I never really knew where I was in the game until the score was announced at the end. It might be nice to have goals announced with the score. And what is happening if you hit up and down arrow and are hearing numbers? Is this some sort of mouse speed thing? Also, it might be nice to have a constant sound for the paddle; I found myself not always knowing where I was in relation to the goal and the puck, since I couldn't hear the paddle unless I moved it, and there was a noticeable delay between gestures and the sound. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Air hockey traylor
I've been doing lots of work on Air Hockey and Wrecking Ball lately. Here, to whet your appetite, is the trailer for Air Hockey. The AI is not as good as I'd like it to be, but--ah, not bad. This is a game played only with the mouse, no keyboard at all. The hiss-like sound is my paddle sliding around. The ticking sounds, like something running, are the opponent's paddle. (You'll hear his a lot more than mine.) As in the last version, the cheer means I got a goal, and the buzz means he got one. Now I know where the idea of Pong came from. It's a bit slow, which is one of the reasons I am not releasing it yet, but if you listen you'll know it's air hockey. Here's the link! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/air%20hockey%20trailer.mp3 Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Air Hockey
Hi all, I have two questions, the first one is OT, so please answer that directly to me. Because I have recently become interested in ice hockey: 1. Sorry, but I don't know how American radio works, and the amount and names of your stations are quite confusing. If they are allowed to do this, I would love to listen to an NHL game, so can someone please tell me if these are broadcast over the internet, and, because you guys have so many stations, which station could I hear one on if possible. 2. Now to the games question. My dad and I were trying to see if I could play air hockey, but it wasn't that successful because, as you guys know, the disk blows and bounces all over. My question is, as a totally blind person, do any of you guys play it successfully, what strategy do you use. Do you think, if none of you have an answer, it would somehow help to create a disk that could make some kind of buzz or beep while it's flying, would that be a good way to play near evenly, or equally against a sighted person? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
i would also be interested in this my email is dennisl1...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: ari aridamoula...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey Hi all, I have two questions, the first one is OT, so please answer that directly to me. Because I have recently become interested in ice hockey: 1. Sorry, but I don't know how American radio works, and the amount and names of your stations are quite confusing. If they are allowed to do this, I would love to listen to an NHL game, so can someone please tell me if these are broadcast over the internet, and, because you guys have so many stations, which station could I hear one on if possible. 2. Now to the games question. My dad and I were trying to see if I could play air hockey, but it wasn't that successful because, as you guys know, the disk blows and bounces all over. My question is, as a totally blind person, do any of you guys play it successfully, what strategy do you use. Do you think, if none of you have an answer, it would somehow help to create a disk that could make some kind of buzz or beep while it's flying, would that be a good way to play near evenly, or equally against a sighted person? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
it can be done i keep my hand on the table and when it is my turn to hit the disc i stop it with my hand so i know where it is. - Original Message - From: dennis dennisl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey i would also be interested in this my email is dennisl1...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: ari aridamoula...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey Hi all, I have two questions, the first one is OT, so please answer that directly to me. Because I have recently become interested in ice hockey: 1. Sorry, but I don't know how American radio works, and the amount and names of your stations are quite confusing. If they are allowed to do this, I would love to listen to an NHL game, so can someone please tell me if these are broadcast over the internet, and, because you guys have so many stations, which station could I hear one on if possible. 2. Now to the games question. My dad and I were trying to see if I could play air hockey, but it wasn't that successful because, as you guys know, the disk blows and bounces all over. My question is, as a totally blind person, do any of you guys play it successfully, what strategy do you use. Do you think, if none of you have an answer, it would somehow help to create a disk that could make some kind of buzz or beep while it's flying, would that be a good way to play near evenly, or equally against a sighted person? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
Hi Ari. Unfortunately in most arcades where I've seen tables, they don't let you bring your own air hocky disk, so you'd have to modify whatever disk came out of the machine. What you need is a small, constantly beeping buzzer I think which you could slip on to the top of the disk, a bell would be no good sinse it'd only ring when the disk was violently hit. I'd recommend checking somewhere like a gadgit or toy type shop for a small toy or keyring with the requisit sound, unfortunately many such things (such as key finders), usually have to be activated by pressing a button which would obviously be difficult if you were playing hocky. Perhaps you could mutilate a toy to get it's buzzer out? Btw, I'm just having thoughts here which may or may not be helpful, sinse I'm afraid I personally just look for a table with a highly contrasting disk, which admitedly can be a bit of a pest to find. Hth though. Beware the Grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
hi all when I was at school I whent to a school for the blind by the way we played Air hockey and never had any modifications or anything. well hth. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Mich, But I can't see how you could have played air hockey in the propper sense, because the wind always changes direction and blows the disk all over the place. I know you could try and hear how it bounces and try and hit it, but wasn't that kind of a hit-and-miss thing, because the disk doesn't bounce predictably, because of the wind it might blow to the total opposite side, and, until it bounces, as far as I can tell, you're none the wiser? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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i have played quite a bit too, with no special tools either. I just protected my goal for the most part, and hit the puck when i could. try to hit it at an angle and bounce it off the side, to aim it at the opponent goal from an angle too, rather than a direct hit. - Original Message - From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey hi all when I was at school I whent to a school for the blind by the way we played Air hockey and never had any modifications or anything. well hth. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] air hockey again
I play for fun but I never do well. Since air is already coming up and supporting the puck, I don't see why a whistle couldn't be built right into the puck--a small hole on one side of the puck for the air to blow through, and on the other side a dip and slit type deal like on the mouthpiece of a recorder. It would still be a bit hard to localize the sound, but I think it would be doable. In the mean time, try my air hockey game at Kara's web site. - Original Message - From: ari aridamoula...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey Hi all, I have two questions, the first one is OT, so please answer that directly to me. Because I have recently become interested in ice hockey: 1. Sorry, but I don't know how American radio works, and the amount and names of your stations are quite confusing. If they are allowed to do this, I would love to listen to an NHL game, so can someone please tell me if these are broadcast over the internet, and, because you guys have so many stations, which station could I hear one on if possible. 2. Now to the games question. My dad and I were trying to see if I could play air hockey, but it wasn't that successful because, as you guys know, the disk blows and bounces all over. My question is, as a totally blind person, do any of you guys play it successfully, what strategy do you use. Do you think, if none of you have an answer, it would somehow help to create a disk that could make some kind of buzz or beep while it's flying, would that be a good way to play near evenly, or equally against a sighted person? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] air hockey again
what is the site - Original Message - From: Ken kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:05 PM Subject: [Audyssey] air hockey again I play for fun but I never do well. Since air is already coming up and supporting the puck, I don't see why a whistle couldn't be built right into the puck--a small hole on one side of the puck for the air to blow through, and on the other side a dip and slit type deal like on the mouthpiece of a recorder. It would still be a bit hard to localize the sound, but I think it would be doable. In the mean time, try my air hockey game at Kara's web site. - Original Message - From: ari aridamoula...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey Hi all, I have two questions, the first one is OT, so please answer that directly to me. Because I have recently become interested in ice hockey: 1. Sorry, but I don't know how American radio works, and the amount and names of your stations are quite confusing. If they are allowed to do this, I would love to listen to an NHL game, so can someone please tell me if these are broadcast over the internet, and, because you guys have so many stations, which station could I hear one on if possible. 2. Now to the games question. My dad and I were trying to see if I could play air hockey, but it wasn't that successful because, as you guys know, the disk blows and bounces all over. My question is, as a totally blind person, do any of you guys play it successfully, what strategy do you use. Do you think, if none of you have an answer, it would somehow help to create a disk that could make some kind of buzz or beep while it's flying, would that be a good way to play near evenly, or equally against a sighted person? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
To me, this would be cheating. You're not supposed to stop the puck with your hands. I have heard that some blind people can hear the air moving the puck, although I haven't noticed it. I haven't played the game in years. I helped with the drilling of an air hockey table using a pattern from an issue of Popular Mechanics for a neighbor's kids. I got fairly good with an electric drill during the process. (grin) --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: ian mcnamara riggs_mcnam...@yahoo.co.uk To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey it can be done i keep my hand on the table and when it is my turn to hit the disc i stop it with my hand so i know where it is. - Original Message - From: dennis dennisl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey i would also be interested in this my email is dennisl1...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: ari aridamoula...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey Hi all, I have two questions, the first one is OT, so please answer that directly to me. Because I have recently become interested in ice hockey: 1. Sorry, but I don't know how American radio works, and the amount and names of your stations are quite confusing. If they are allowed to do this, I would love to listen to an NHL game, so can someone please tell me if these are broadcast over the internet, and, because you guys have so many stations, which station could I hear one on if possible. 2. Now to the games question. My dad and I were trying to see if I could play air hockey, but it wasn't that successful because, as you guys know, the disk blows and bounces all over. My question is, as a totally blind person, do any of you guys play it successfully, what strategy do you use. Do you think, if none of you have an answer, it would somehow help to create a disk that could make some kind of buzz or beep while it's flying, would that be a good way to play near evenly, or equally against a sighted person? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
How did you do it? It would be more helpful to explain how it is done rather than to just say that you did it and give no details. Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey hi all when I was at school I whent to a school for the blind by the way we played Air hockey and never had any modifications or anything. well hth. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] air hockey
There isn't one yet--just use the keyboard as in Wrecking ball or Enemy attack, and especially try out the mouse. Everyone is welcome to mod this game in any way you like. Send me the results and I'll post it if it's at all better than my version (won't take much.) Mainly I want to familiarize all you vb6ers how to use the mouse--capturing it for exclusive use and making it move things. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. - Original Message - From: tim kilgore` [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] air hockey Hey, does any one have a read me for air hockey? Tim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 9/1/2007 4:20 PM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey, does any one have a read me for air hockey? Tim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tim: According to Ken from a post a few days ago he said this is a alpha release. No read me file available. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tim kilgore` Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:09 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] air hockey Hey, does any one have a read me for air hockey? Tim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey again
Ken: Does your air hocken work in Vista? I tried it and I got to where it said air hocken and your company name. After that I does nothing. However I did not get a error message. Anyone else know fif this works? If it doesn't, is there a way to make it work? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken the Crazy Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:20 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey again Okay, it is up--I uploaded the file last time and it said successful transfer--I don't know why it didn't take. Again, the link is http://tbrn.net/modgirl/Ken's%20games Maybe it didn't work because I put in the spaces instead of the %20, or forgot not to capitalize games, I don't know--but I wasn't far from the mark. Anyway, I just looked and the file is there. As I said, it's not very good, but it is open source. Feel free to modify it in any way you like as long as you send me the mods with your names so I can give you the credit when I release it--but it will be freeware so don't expect cash. The community has needed something we could all work together on as a group--so here it is. Have fun. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey again
Hik Kenn is the air hokey game a full game or is still a beta version? your friend, Jason - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey again Okay, it is up--I uploaded the file last time and it said successful transfer--I don't know why it didn't take. Again, the link is http://tbrn.net/modgirl/Ken's%20games Maybe it didn't work because I put in the spaces instead of the %20, or forgot not to capitalize games, I don't know--but I wasn't far from the mark. Anyway, I just looked and the file is there. As I said, it's not very good, but it is open source. Feel free to modify it in any way you like as long as you send me the mods with your names so I can give you the credit when I release it--but it will be freeware so don't expect cash. The community has needed something we could all work together on as a group--so here it is. Have fun. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey again
it's still in beta. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 - Original Message - From: jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey again Hik Kenn is the air hokey game a full game or is still a beta version? your friend, Jason - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey again Okay, it is up--I uploaded the file last time and it said successful transfer--I don't know why it didn't take. Again, the link is http://tbrn.net/modgirl/Ken's%20games Maybe it didn't work because I put in the spaces instead of the %20, or forgot not to capitalize games, I don't know--but I wasn't far from the mark. Anyway, I just looked and the file is there. As I said, it's not very good, but it is open source. Feel free to modify it in any way you like as long as you send me the mods with your names so I can give you the credit when I release it--but it will be freeware so don't expect cash. The community has needed something we could all work together on as a group--so here it is. Have fun. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Air Hockey again
Okay, it is up--I uploaded the file last time and it said successful transfer--I don't know why it didn't take. Again, the link is http://tbrn.net/modgirl/Ken's%20games Maybe it didn't work because I put in the spaces instead of the %20, or forgot not to capitalize games, I don't know--but I wasn't far from the mark. Anyway, I just looked and the file is there. As I said, it's not very good, but it is open source. Feel free to modify it in any way you like as long as you send me the mods with your names so I can give you the credit when I release it--but it will be freeware so don't expect cash. The community has needed something we could all work together on as a group--so here it is. Have fun. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] air hockey
Does this game work in vista? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:40 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] air hocky Hi, ken, what do I do in the game. Where is the manual. I can move the mouse around and push butttons and shift sliders with the arrow down and up keys but I don't know what the heck I am doing. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 4:29 p.m. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
i wanna know where to get this too, ken. thanks! On 8/26/07, Michael Maslo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken: Has this been released? Where can I get this from?? I do not see it any where. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Leary Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:09 PM To: Ken the Crazy; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey Hey now that will be fun. I use to really enjoy that game when I could find one in a quiet place. - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey I have Wrecking Ball on hold for a while so that I can make an air hockey game. The AI is almost complete, but the real reason I'm doing this is to get some experience with setting up mouse support. That's right, call me mister wizard--I'm about to turn your mouse into an air hockey paddle. In rail racer, the cars move fast--but you'll have to have even faster reflexes to guard those goals and make some yourself. Of course, my standard keyboard interface is still in place as well, just like in Wrecking Ball. Once Air Hockey is done, I'll put mouse support in Wrecking Ball and um, we'll have a ball! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2485 (20070826) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
yes we will ave a grate time will this game be muly player r not how is it going to ork - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey Don't you mean that we'll have a pucking good time?? (grin of orneriness) -- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey I have Wrecking Ball on hold for a while so that I can make an air hockey game. The AI is almost complete, but the real reason I'm doing this is to get some experience with setting up mouse support. That's right, call me mister wizard--I'm about to turn your mouse into an air hockey paddle. In rail racer, the cars move fast--but you'll have to have even faster reflexes to guard those goals and make some yourself. Of course, my standard keyboard interface is still in place as well, just like in Wrecking Ball. Once Air Hockey is done, I'll put mouse support in Wrecking Ball and um, we'll have a ball! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] air hockey
Ken: Can you please tell me whre I can get the air hocken game is? I followed the link you posted but I got page not found message. Thanks, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of blind guy Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] darn it was wrong... this is crazy! lol. i will do it again. and again. level2 is very hard... On 8/26/07, Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What! level 2 act 2? I must get my revenge! also that was funny how you kept landing on the powerups hahaha. well doesn't this add a level of complexity to super liam? this is how the game would be if Liam had lost his gun at the beginning of the game. lol! Well off to break my keyboard some more. - Are you into Anime, manga, and video game music? If yes, take a look at this site. http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 - Original Message - From: blind guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:05 AM Subject: [Audyssey] darn it was wrong... this is crazy! sorry for alll these posts: http://www.sendspace.com/file/gcoegr thats the link. promise. bn was putting up a huge fight; i couldnt go into the blocks menu and paste in the link so... if it's wrong let me know. i got to level2 act2, though died on act2. so yohandy we're equal, more or less. act1 was easy! and so was sandy surf. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5813 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
Hey now that will be fun. I use to really enjoy that game when I could find one in a quiet place. - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey I have Wrecking Ball on hold for a while so that I can make an air hockey game. The AI is almost complete, but the real reason I'm doing this is to get some experience with setting up mouse support. That's right, call me mister wizard--I'm about to turn your mouse into an air hockey paddle. In rail racer, the cars move fast--but you'll have to have even faster reflexes to guard those goals and make some yourself. Of course, my standard keyboard interface is still in place as well, just like in Wrecking Ball. Once Air Hockey is done, I'll put mouse support in Wrecking Ball and um, we'll have a ball! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2485 (20070826) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
Ken: Has this been released? Where can I get this from?? I do not see it any where. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Leary Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:09 PM To: Ken the Crazy; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey Hey now that will be fun. I use to really enjoy that game when I could find one in a quiet place. - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey I have Wrecking Ball on hold for a while so that I can make an air hockey game. The AI is almost complete, but the real reason I'm doing this is to get some experience with setting up mouse support. That's right, call me mister wizard--I'm about to turn your mouse into an air hockey paddle. In rail racer, the cars move fast--but you'll have to have even faster reflexes to guard those goals and make some yourself. Of course, my standard keyboard interface is still in place as well, just like in Wrecking Ball. Once Air Hockey is done, I'll put mouse support in Wrecking Ball and um, we'll have a ball! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2485 (20070826) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Air Hockey
I have Wrecking Ball on hold for a while so that I can make an air hockey game. The AI is almost complete, but the real reason I'm doing this is to get some experience with setting up mouse support. That's right, call me mister wizard--I'm about to turn your mouse into an air hockey paddle. In rail racer, the cars move fast--but you'll have to have even faster reflexes to guard those goals and make some yourself. Of course, my standard keyboard interface is still in place as well, just like in Wrecking Ball. Once Air Hockey is done, I'll put mouse support in Wrecking Ball and um, we'll have a ball! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
i love air hockey so thanks for this - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey I have Wrecking Ball on hold for a while so that I can make an air hockey game. The AI is almost complete, but the real reason I'm doing this is to get some experience with setting up mouse support. That's right, call me mister wizard--I'm about to turn your mouse into an air hockey paddle. In rail racer, the cars move fast--but you'll have to have even faster reflexes to guard those goals and make some yourself. Of course, my standard keyboard interface is still in place as well, just like in Wrecking Ball. Once Air Hockey is done, I'll put mouse support in Wrecking Ball and um, we'll have a ball! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
yes! yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I was wanting an air hockey game for a while! the heck with the one in my basement. now i can get a whole computer version... On 8/24/07, Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Wrecking Ball on hold for a while so that I can make an air hockey game. The AI is almost complete, but the real reason I'm doing this is to get some experience with setting up mouse support. That's right, call me mister wizard--I'm about to turn your mouse into an air hockey paddle. In rail racer, the cars move fast--but you'll have to have even faster reflexes to guard those goals and make some yourself. Of course, my standard keyboard interface is still in place as well, just like in Wrecking Ball. Once Air Hockey is done, I'll put mouse support in Wrecking Ball and um, we'll have a ball! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey
Don't you mean that we'll have a pucking good time?? (grin of orneriness) -- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey I have Wrecking Ball on hold for a while so that I can make an air hockey game. The AI is almost complete, but the real reason I'm doing this is to get some experience with setting up mouse support. That's right, call me mister wizard--I'm about to turn your mouse into an air hockey paddle. In rail racer, the cars move fast--but you'll have to have even faster reflexes to guard those goals and make some yourself. Of course, my standard keyboard interface is still in place as well, just like in Wrecking Ball. Once Air Hockey is done, I'll put mouse support in Wrecking Ball and um, we'll have a ball! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
