Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Cool. I've joined the list, and I know it'll help keep me up to date with the forum. Thanks! Check out my games at www.ThePionEar.net and my music, and that of my band, at www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . Also, check out, "The Believer and Skeptic Show," at iTunes! If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Mailing lists and forums are just different, and serve different purposes. While I can confidently claim to prefer mailing lists for lots of technical reasons, and have on more than one occasion in the past declared my hatred of forums on this list, I strongly suggest people actually have a good poke around on forum.audiogames.net before dismissing the idea. It really is a nice, well-managed forum that is light on bloat, and in fact is very friendly to javascriptless, mobile browsers including most blindness note-takers. It's a great place to hang out when I have the time, and in fact I generally prefer to catch up there, due to the archival and organisational properties that are inherent to the forum. I have also set up a list specifically to reflect the forum postings back to me in email, so that I can follow in my email clients, which is very quick and convenient; once you've logged in at the forum, just click the link to reply to each incoming message, and you wouldn't notice you were using a forum at all. That list, for those who want the same treatment, is at: http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector The main advantages of a mailing list are choices of email client, easy cross-participation in multiple lists, speed for the user in receiving and sending messages and robustness of the discussion against downtime or censorship. This latter is sadly less and less true as more people move to Google Groups or whatever, and also due to the spam filters of various brain-dead providers. The main advantages of a forum are generally better etiquette (especially where blindness lists are concerned, I find), intuitive archival and organisation of threads, centralised features such as voting or editing of posts, and a much lower curve to discovery and participation which leads to a broader base of contributions and a somewhat more relaxed attitude to off-topic discussion and community. Which one you prefer, or whether you prefer both, is so much about preference that trying to decide which is "Better" is unlikely to produce a useful conclusion for everybody. I also need to point out that some software now has the ability to gateway natively to mailing lists, which would mean that if people liked the interface, it would certainly be possible to support both forum and list simultaneously. Mozilla does this, offering NNTP, email and HTTP access to discussions, and it seems to work for them. HTH. Cheers, Sabahattin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Mailing lists and forums are just different, and serve different purposes. While I can confidently claim to prefer mailing lists for lots of technical reasons, and have on more than one occasion in the past declared my hatred of forums on this list, I strongly suggest people actually have a good poke around on forum.audiogames.net before dismissing the idea. It really is a nice, well-managed forum that is light on bloat, and in fact is very friendly to javascriptless, mobile browsers including most blindness note-takers. It's a great place to hang out when I have the time, and in fact I generally prefer to catch up there, due to the archival and organisational properties that are inherent to the forum. I have also set up a list specifically to reflect the forum postings back to me in email, so that I can follow in my email clients, which is very quick and convenient; once you've logged in at the forum, just click the link to reply to each incoming message, and you wouldn't notice you were using a forum at all. That list, for those who want the same treatment, is at: http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector The main advantages of a mailing list are choices of email client, easy cross-participation in multiple lists, speed for the user in receiving and sending messages and robustness of the discussion against downtime or censorship. This latter is sadly less and less true as more people move to Google Groups or whatever, and also due to the spam filters of various brain-dead providers. The main advantages of a forum are generally better etiquette (especially where blindness lists are concerned, I find), intuitive archival and organisation of threads, centralised features such as voting or editing of posts, and a much lower curve to discovery and participation which leads to a broader base of contributions and a somewhat more relaxed attitude to off-topic discussion and community. Which one you prefer, or whether you prefer both, is so much about preference that trying to decide which is "Better" is unlikely to produce a useful conclusion for everybody. I also need to point out that s ome software now has the ability to gateway natively to mailing lists, which would mean that if people liked the interface, it would certainly be possible to support both forum and list simultaneously. Mozilla does this, offering NNTP, email and HTTP access to discussions, and it seems to work for them. HTH. Cheers, Sabahattin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi. Look at it like this. I haven't been on the audyssey forum in years. I don't think to go out and navigate to a webpage and click my way through threads over coffee or anything like that. It only works on me if I have the content thrown at me where I can group by conversation and hit delete on the nonimportant stuff and read what's left. My suggestion is google groups if you switch to another list manager. Cheers, Sent with thunderbird 17.0.8 portable On 11/14/2013 9:39 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Well, I certainly see the advantages and disadvantages of both which is why I put the question to the list. I like forums myself personally, but I also agree there are advantages to a mailing list that others prefer. Its not a question of right or wrong but simply a matter of preference. As I am all for preference I agree that keeping the list open as an alternative to the Audio Games forum is a good idea. Especially, since there are some people who absolutely dislike and refuse to use forums, but are quite happy with a list format. I have no problem with giving them what they want as I can use either one, and I see the advantages in a mailing list even if some people do not. Cheers! On 11/17/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > That is true, though bare in mind just as you as list moderator need to > monitor list traffic for ontopic subjects, equally I do spend a surprisingly > > large amount of my own time on audiogames.net booting threads into the right > > area of the forum, since some people have a habbit of getting things wrong > however well you explain the categories and will post about random game > ideas with no released information in new releases, or will ask about > something to do with games in the offtopic room. > > As I said myself I see advantages and disadvantages both ways which is why > in this case I do agree with the rest of the members that it's worth having > > both a forum (ie the audiogames.net one), and a mailing list (ie this one), > > available so people have the choice for one or either or indeed both! :D. > > All the best, > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Tom. That is true, though bare in mind just as you as list moderator need to monitor list traffic for ontopic subjects, equally I do spend a surprisingly large amount of my own time on audiogames.net booting threads into the right area of the forum, since some people have a habbit of getting things wrong however well you explain the categories and will post about random game ideas with no released information in new releases, or will ask about something to do with games in the offtopic room. As I said myself I see advantages and disadvantages both ways which is why in this case I do agree with the rest of the members that it's worth having both a forum (ie the audiogames.net one), and a mailing list (ie this one), available so people have the choice for one or either or indeed both! :D. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Lol! That's funny. I just asked my dog to find a gremlin and she just lifted her head, gave me a doggy look, and went back to sleep. Either she doesn't know what one looks like or doesn't care. Its noon and probably near her nap time. Cheers! On 11/17/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > Well at least in britain, gremlin legends started as a way to explain the > various faults and breakdowns experienced by plane pilots in the second > world war. It started out as a bit of a joke, indeed when I was quite young > > I once knewa vicar who was himself a pilot during the war and used to tell > > myself and other childrenn Gremlin stories :D.. Then Rohald dahl, himself a > > plane pilot decided to write a screen play story based on that idea of > Gremlins for Walt Disney in the mid 70's, albeit that had nothing to do with > > the later films you mention accept the name, albiet I do own both Gremlins > films on dvd and rather enjoy them, as they were films I grew up with (I > even used to have an audio book of the novelization read by none other than > > the most famous of all Doctor who actors, Tom Baker). > > It's actually still common in Britain, if there are lots of electric faults > > to say "oh we've got a gremlin" indeed this last weekend while I was staying > > at my parents my laptop had a user account error, (why I'm only just picking > > up my mail after getting back to my flat), my mum's video camera broke and! > > our sky tv box froze, so my mum said we must have a gremlin in the > house, I even tried askking my mum's dog to find it, but she was a > little confused, she did however go off runing around the house looking, so > > clearly Dogs know what gremlins are too :D. > > All the best, > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Dark, Well, I don't think mailing lists are old fashioned per say I just personally feel forums do have the advantage of supporting more members as well as being able to organize threads by topic. As you know on Audiogames.net there are different categories such as general, new releases, off topic, etc which helps separate things for the forum users. If a user has no interest in off topic messages he or she can go directly to general or new releases and never see the off topic messages. With a mailing list every post that is posted gets delivered to the end user which means someone like myself has to try and make sure each post stays on topic otherwise a list member could receive hundreds of junk messages that have nothing to do with games or this list. Even when a message is on topic a person is forced to receive a copy weather they have any interest in it or not where a forum gives a user more choice in what to read and not to read. So I think in that respect forums have their advantages, but I'm not going to set one up as it isn't what many list members want. Cheers! On 11/17/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > Well I know people do comment about mailing lists being old fashioned, but > actually there are still lots of them around and likely to be more > considdering that people now get E-mail on their tablets, phones, even tvs, > > heck, there are still! some very well established newsgroups out there, it's > > all about choice hwich is why I'm in favour of keeping the mailing list > open. > > if google groups is no longer workable (I admit it's been a while since I > looked into their interface), then another system might work, though > obviously that's a matter for those who run the list to decide upon since > it's yourself and the other mods who must deal with the interface and admin > > console. > > Indeed, this is a major difference between mailing lists and forums, > different forums can change access dramatically, and I've seen everything > from very accessible systems like Punbb, (which audiogames.net uses), to all > > sorts of silly things such as proboards or even custom built systems. > > Forums really can change in access and usability as much as web pages can, > where as a mailing list just gives out E-mails to members and it's > accessibility is thus entirely dependent upon a members' E-mail client, > which again is a major advantage. > > All the best, > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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On the other hand, it's far easier to step into a conversation mid way through with a mailing list. For example, lets say we were discussing dRaconis' new title, which a none Iphone user would obviously find a less interesting topic. Then however I could see this leading back to a discussion of analogue control, and uses of the mouse etc, and games like swamp, daytona or rail racer. Now, at that point if the subject line was changed to something like "analogue game control was: say it right game from Draconis" everyone lacking an Iphone could jump in without having to read the entire initial thread and every last response as would be the case on a forum. To me, it's very much swings and roundabouts. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Tom. Well at least in britain, gremlin legends started as a way to explain the various faults and breakdowns experienced by plane pilots in the second world war. It started out as a bit of a joke, indeed when I was quite young I once knewa vicar who was himself a pilot during the war and used to tell myself and other childrenn Gremlin stories :D.. Then Rohald dahl, himself a plane pilot decided to write a screen play story based on that idea of Gremlins for Walt Disney in the mid 70's, albeit that had nothing to do with the later films you mention accept the name, albiet I do own both Gremlins films on dvd and rather enjoy them, as they were films I grew up with (I even used to have an audio book of the novelization read by none other than the most famous of all Doctor who actors, Tom Baker). It's actually still common in Britain, if there are lots of electric faults to say "oh we've got a gremlin" indeed this last weekend while I was staying at my parents my laptop had a user account error, (why I'm only just picking up my mail after getting back to my flat), my mum's video camera broke and! our sky tv box froze, so my mum said we must have a gremlin in the house, I even tried askking my mum's dog to find it, but she was a little confused, she did however go off runing around the house looking, so clearly Dogs know what gremlins are too :D. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Tom. Well I know people do comment about mailing lists being old fashioned, but actually there are still lots of them around and likely to be more considdering that people now get E-mail on their tablets, phones, even tvs, heck, there are still! some very well established newsgroups out there, it's all about choice hwich is why I'm in favour of keeping the mailing list open. if google groups is no longer workable (I admit it's been a while since I looked into their interface), then another system might work, though obviously that's a matter for those who run the list to decide upon since it's yourself and the other mods who must deal with the interface and admin console. Indeed, this is a major difference between mailing lists and forums, different forums can change access dramatically, and I've seen everything from very accessible systems like Punbb, (which audiogames.net uses), to all sorts of silly things such as proboards or even custom built systems. Forums really can change in access and usability as much as web pages can, where as a mailing list just gives out E-mails to members and it's accessibility is thus entirely dependent upon a members' E-mail client, which again is a major advantage. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Or when Gizmo got wet LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Shaun, Lol! Wrong kind of gremlin. Here in America whenever something goes wrong with a piece of equipment, software fails, mechanical failure, etc we jokingly blame the problem on a gremlin which is not the same thing as the gremlins in the gremlins movie. Gremlins according to folk tales are actually suppose to be a race of magical beings, kind of like nasty elves, that go around causing trouble for humans by breaking things or pulling pranks on people. The gremlins in the gremlins movie were ugly little monsters created when Billy fed the little Mugwas after midnight which isn't quite the same thing as gremlins in the folk tale sense. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: Well catch it and stick it in the microwave if you have seen the gremlin 1 and 2 films you will know what I am talking about. hmm also I think the film mentioned not feading it after mightnight. Dark have you being feeding the gremlin again or something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Ah, but I have mail filters set up with mailboxes that I haven’t, uh, perused in quite awhile. I could not handle mailing-list messages going to my inbox, unless the mailing list is very small. This one isn’t. :) Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Nov 16, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Shaun, > > Well, that may be the case, but that is really the advantage of a > forum. A person can go to the forum, click on the new link, and use > the h key to look at all the various threads with new posts and only > read the ones of interest. If there is a thread on BK2 and I have no > interest in that game I can skip it. With a mailing list everything is > just mailed to a person's inbox and they have to delete all the > messages they don't want to read before reading the ones they do want > to read. However, that is a mute point since I have decided not to set > up a forum here on Audyssey. > > Cheers! > > > On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: >> I agree I like both. >> I have a big time trying to access everything I want in audiogames. >> These days I only really go down the first 3-4 topics on each topic >> page and every sub forum. >> There are to many to view them all. >> And there are spam posters, and other things to. >> Sometimes the audiogames forum database overloads like it has been >> this week and I can not get on from time to time. >> The forum is ok I guess but if it overloads then there will be issues. >> And also I barely read everything on those as it is. >> Saying that it may be an idea to include an announcement list which >> handles all the releases and such mag issues and other important stuff. >> I do still like the discussion list as it is in particular because I >> can post things faster and other such things. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, Well, that may be the case, but that is really the advantage of a forum. A person can go to the forum, click on the new link, and use the h key to look at all the various threads with new posts and only read the ones of interest. If there is a thread on BK2 and I have no interest in that game I can skip it. With a mailing list everything is just mailed to a person's inbox and they have to delete all the messages they don't want to read before reading the ones they do want to read. However, that is a mute point since I have decided not to set up a forum here on Audyssey. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: > I agree I like both. > I have a big time trying to access everything I want in audiogames. > These days I only really go down the first 3-4 topics on each topic > page and every sub forum. > There are to many to view them all. > And there are spam posters, and other things to. > Sometimes the audiogames forum database overloads like it has been > this week and I can not get on from time to time. > The forum is ok I guess but if it overloads then there will be issues. > And also I barely read everything on those as it is. > Saying that it may be an idea to include an announcement list which > handles all the releases and such mag issues and other important stuff. > I do still like the discussion list as it is in particular because I > can post things faster and other such things. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I agree I like both. I have a big time trying to access everything I want in audiogames. These days I only really go down the first 3-4 topics on each topic page and every sub forum. There are to many to view them all. And there are spam posters, and other things to. Sometimes the audiogames forum database overloads like it has been this week and I can not get on from time to time. The forum is ok I guess but if it overloads then there will be issues. And also I barely read everything on those as it is. Saying that it may be an idea to include an announcement list which handles all the releases and such mag issues and other important stuff. I do still like the discussion list as it is in particular because I can post things faster and other such things. At 05:30 PM 11/15/2013, you wrote: Hey, Thomas. I actually like the email instead of forum. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, I forgot about that, but yes you are right. Although, when I was talking about gremlins I was not talking about the car either. :D Cheers! On 11/16/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > A Gremlin is also a small car made by Chevrolet. (another grin) > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, You might want to go read it again. I did not write fed but f'ed. There is an apostrophe between the f and the ed. That is the universal way to abbreviate the f word without spelling it all the way out. :D Cheers! On 11/16/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Fed??? I was thinking of a different word, and I'll bet you know what it > it. (grin) > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Cara, Thanks for the info. It was a while ago since using Google Groups, perhaps a year or so, and I'm definitely not up to speed with their new interface. In any case I'm trying to fix our mail server on Audyssey, and won't be going to a new service until we have run out of options to fix our mail server. Cheers! On 11/16/13, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Not sure how long ago you used G Groups, but this last round of changes has > happened over like the last two or three months. > > Just sayin' > > Smiles, > > Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Ah. Darn these screen readers, anyway. Go ahead and flitter. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Actually he used it, or at least the shortened version. That wasn't fed, that was F ed. *flitters back up to her perch* Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 16, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: Fed??? I was thinking of a different word, and I'll bet you know what it it. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Charles, At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Charles Rivard wrote: Is it fubar?, or is it snafu. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Actually he used it, or at least the shortened version. That wasn't fed, that was F ed. *flitters back up to her perch* Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 16, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: Fed??? I was thinking of a different word, and I'll bet you know what it it. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message > Hi Charles, > > At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call > it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for > f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. > > Cheers! > > On 11/15/13, Charles Rivard wrote: >> Is it fubar?, or is it snafu. >> >> --- >> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, >> >> you! really! are! finished! > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Thomas, Not sure how long ago you used G Groups, but this last round of changes has happened over like the last two or three months. Just sayin' Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 16, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Cara, Yeah, I know. I used Google Groups a while back, and their list management interface was pretty poor accessibility wise. I could do it, but nowhere as accessible or straight forward as Mailman is. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi again, Thomas, > > Just to clarify, I am talking about the GoogleGroups interface for managing > groups, not the member interface. > > The management experience at this point is just awful from a blindness > perspective. > > Thanks, > > Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi oh I agree. I manage lists for an organisation I volunteer for and Google groups are not as easy as it use to be. The audio word verification things are not very good and I got a head ake trying to use them. My view is that, if needs be, if you delete the list and re-create it, that might be the easiest thing as we need to make sure that you are not swamped with this work. I know how time consuming it is putting people on to lists and I don't want you to be having to spend too much time with this. Amanda -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:35 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Cara, Yeah, I know. I used Google Groups a while back, and their list management interface was pretty poor accessibility wise. I could do it, but nowhere as accessible or straight forward as Mailman is. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Cara Quinn wrote: Hi again, Thomas, Just to clarify, I am talking about the GoogleGroups interface for managing groups, not the member interface. The management experience at this point is just awful from a blindness perspective. Thanks, Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Fed??? I was thinking of a different word, and I'll bet you know what it it. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Charles, At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Charles Rivard wrote: Is it fubar?, or is it snafu. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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A Gremlin is also a small car made by Chevrolet. (another grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Shaun, Lol! Wrong kind of gremlin. Here in America whenever something goes wrong with a piece of equipment, software fails, mechanical failure, etc we jokingly blame the problem on a gremlin which is not the same thing as the gremlins in the gremlins movie. Gremlins according to folk tales are actually suppose to be a race of magical beings, kind of like nasty elves, that go around causing trouble for humans by breaking things or pulling pranks on people. The gremlins in the gremlins movie were ugly little monsters created when Billy fed the little Mugwas after midnight which isn't quite the same thing as gremlins in the folk tale sense. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: Well catch it and stick it in the microwave if you have seen the gremlin 1 and 2 films you will know what I am talking about. hmm also I think the film mentioned not feading it after mightnight. Dark have you being feeding the gremlin again or something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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This sounds definitely like something to try before switching things over to another service. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Nov 16, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Shaun, > > That is of course one possibility. Worst case we will delete the > Audyssey account and start over from scratch in the hopes that we get > a fresh setup because the issue isn't the server or the software > itself. We are running on the assumption that when transferring the > Audyssey CPanel configuration from Raul's host to mine something got > messed up in the move. Now we are trying to find out what went wrong > and if we can't we need to just nuke the account and start over fresh. > > However, doing so is nowhere as bad as you make it sound. I won't have > to reinstall any software because it isn't the software that is messed > up. The list membership wont have to resubscribe because I can export > the list of members to a text file and import it making it a breeze to > simply resubscribe everyone at once. Point being deleting the account > and recreating the account is no big deal. Slightly time consuming but > not anything that will effect most list members other than the fact > the list will be down for a few hours. > > Cheers! > > > On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: >> the web portal of googlegroups is not accessable at all for the >> blind to handle the new systems google uses really have not sat well >> with me and don't get me started on yahoo. >> there is freelists but unsubscribe and format and other such things >> are interpreted as list commands and the system will then send you an >> error. >> is there any way to simply delete the entire database and restart from >> scratch? >> it will mean ofcause you may need to reinstall everything and every >> user would have to resubscribe but who knows. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, That is of course one possibility. Worst case we will delete the Audyssey account and start over from scratch in the hopes that we get a fresh setup because the issue isn't the server or the software itself. We are running on the assumption that when transferring the Audyssey CPanel configuration from Raul's host to mine something got messed up in the move. Now we are trying to find out what went wrong and if we can't we need to just nuke the account and start over fresh. However, doing so is nowhere as bad as you make it sound. I won't have to reinstall any software because it isn't the software that is messed up. The list membership wont have to resubscribe because I can export the list of members to a text file and import it making it a breeze to simply resubscribe everyone at once. Point being deleting the account and recreating the account is no big deal. Slightly time consuming but not anything that will effect most list members other than the fact the list will be down for a few hours. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: > the web portal of googlegroups is not accessable at all for the > blind to handle the new systems google uses really have not sat well > with me and don't get me started on yahoo. > there is freelists but unsubscribe and format and other such things > are interpreted as list commands and the system will then send you an > error. > is there any way to simply delete the entire database and restart from > scratch? > it will mean ofcause you may need to reinstall everything and every > user would have to resubscribe but who knows. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Here all this time I thought FUBAR had different words. *l* On 16-Nov-2013 12:12 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Charles, At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Is it fubar?, or is it snafu. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > > you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, Lol! Wrong kind of gremlin. Here in America whenever something goes wrong with a piece of equipment, software fails, mechanical failure, etc we jokingly blame the problem on a gremlin which is not the same thing as the gremlins in the gremlins movie. Gremlins according to folk tales are actually suppose to be a race of magical beings, kind of like nasty elves, that go around causing trouble for humans by breaking things or pulling pranks on people. The gremlins in the gremlins movie were ugly little monsters created when Billy fed the little Mugwas after midnight which isn't quite the same thing as gremlins in the folk tale sense. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: > Well catch it and stick it in the microwave > if you have seen the gremlin 1 and 2 films you will know what I am > talking about. > hmm also I think the film mentioned not feading it after mightnight. > Dark have you being feeding the gremlin again or something > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Well, your opinion seems to be widely supported by many list members so no matter what we will be keeping this list for a good long time. I'm not exactly certain who will be hosting this list, but I can say for certain we won't be moving to a forum as many list members are flat out against that idea. Plus as you yourself pointed out Audiogames.net already has a forum and there is no need to have two forums of the same kind. We should try to keep this list running if for no other reason to offer people an alternative to the web forums popping up everywhere. Cheers! On 11/15/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > I'm afraid I'd not be in favour of an audeasy forum, simply because there > already is! an accessible games forum, and frankly I would have too much > business checking two forums, also it'd make it quite difficult for > developers and others to communicate on both systems. > > I'd personally suggest setting up a google groups list, since google groups > > are fairly reliable, and you'd still get the bennifits of running a mailing > > list, particularly having an alternative to audiogames.net for those people > > who don't enjoy forums. > > I've had experience with google groups myself over the entombed list, and I > > can say they work reliably so long as moderator in put continues and the > list doesn't get abandoned. > > All the best, > dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Kelly, definitely agree. I'm against Yahoo Groups on grounds of accessibility. Accessibility was one of the main reasons why Raul and I moved the list away from there, but we also got sick and tired of the spam and other garbage that went with Yahoo. So as far as I'm concerned Yahoo Groups is a definite no go. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Kelly Sapergia wrote: > Hi, > > I would prefer to have a mailing list rather than a forum, but I wouldn't go > > with Yahoo Groups anymore as the site has become hard to use ever since they > > switched to a different CMS or something. Lots of sighted people are also > complaining about it from what I read. I wonder if Freelists might be a > better option? > > Thanks. > > Yours Sincerely, > Kelly John Sapergia > Show Host and Production Director > The Global Voice Internet Radio > www.theglobalvoice.info > > Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net > Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Nicol, I suppose Freelists.org might be a possibility, but I'm waiting to hear back from the server admins before I make any final decisions as to what to do with the list. The one thing I will say is wherever we take the list has to be able to handle the list traffic. This is a moderately active list with many messages per day and some of those free list services aren't able to keep up with heavy list traffic. So I need to check that out before making a final decision. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Nicol wrote: > Hi tom > I personally prefer a mailing list. > How about freelists.org? > I find them very accessible. > I am subscribed to the blind tech list at freelists.org. > I can easily change options such as digest and mail delivery and I don't > need a password to change options. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Cara, Yeah, I know. I used Google Groups a while back, and their list management interface was pretty poor accessibility wise. I could do it, but nowhere as accessible or straight forward as Mailman is. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi again, Thomas, > > Just to clarify, I am talking about the GoogleGroups interface for managing > groups, not the member interface. > > The management experience at this point is just awful from a blindness > perspective. > > Thanks, > > Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Sly, That was my concern as well. Personally I like forums, but as there is already a gaming forum we don't really need a second one. Thus I was interested to know how many members was in favor of keeping the list all be it from a different server/host. Cheers! On 11/15/13, sylvester thomas III wrote: > Greetings Thomas! > I too would prefere a mailing list to a forum. > If I want to read a forum I would just go to audiogames.net, no need > for 2 blind gameing forums. > > Sly's 2 cents --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi again, Thomas, Just to clarify, I am talking about the GoogleGroups interface for managing groups, not the member interface. The management experience at this point is just awful from a blindness perspective. Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: HI Thomas, let me kindly try to steer you away from GoogleGroups. I mod several Google Groups and have done so for years now. Unfortunately, of late, their interface has become all but unusable, at least on a Mac with VO. I'm actually thinking of moving my groups somewhere else because of this. Since I cannot offer any personal experience with the current interface on other OS'es, if you're curious how Google's interface works with your OS, I'd suggest starting a test group and see how managing it, works for you. HTH Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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HI Thomas, let me kindly try to steer you away from GoogleGroups. I mod several Google Groups and have done so for years now. Unfortunately, of late, their interface has become all but unusable, at least on a Mac with VO. I'm actually thinking of moving my groups somewhere else because of this. Since I cannot offer any personal experience with the current interface on other OS'es, if you're curious how Google's interface works with your OS, I'd suggest starting a test group and see how managing it, works for you. HTH Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
I already have a Postfix and Mailman setup on a public IP address under my control that comes up clean. If the list has nowhere else to go, and you don't mind the "Best effort no guarantees something really bad could happen at any time" conditions, I'd be happy to look into virtual-hosting the Audyssey lists. It might require that a subdomain of audyssey.org be dedicated to list management, but that's hardly inconvenient since people can just remember or bookmark "list.audyssey.org' instead of "audyssey.org" and the admins could always put a link on the main page linking to the list at the subdomain. If this offer appeals, the site admin can reach me at this address, or discuss here. The only other solution I can think of, also involving the cloud, is to route all the email through a third party, like authsmtp, SendGrid or Amazon SES. This will probably keep us out of trouble, but might impact performance. Try enabling the stripping of DKIM signatures in Mailman first. We might be in bad territory. Check that the DNS data on audyssey.org does not include SPF records or DKIM signing authority that are failing. Cheers, Sabahattin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi there, I agree. Or perhaps, make both available? I like using googlegroups myself. Ultimately though, whatever is easiest for you. Tyler - On 11/14/2013 9:23 PM, Danielle Antoine wrote: I vote for yahoogroups or googlegroups. On 11/14/13, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, I would prefer a mailing list. I have much more work with checking a forum for things I want and don't want to read than with a mailing list. Besides, we do have the audiogames.net forum already. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi tom I personally prefer a mailing list. How about freelists.org? I find them very accessible. I am subscribed to the blind tech list at freelists.org. I can easily change options such as digest and mail delivery and I don't need a password to change options. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message > Hello, List: > > I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the > Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. > Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or > notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail > by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post > messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite > numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as > yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. > > Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems > with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server > admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I > think it might be in our best interests to think about a different > solution. What I mean by that is simply this. > > I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing > list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the > software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle > for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as > is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days > I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this > list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. > Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go > back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? > > Sincerely, > Thomas Ward > Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Freelists is an excellent idea. I also have a list there, and it was extremely easy to set up. It takes a few hours for it to be approved, but that’s the only real holdup. Teresa "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."--Groucho Marx On Nov 14, 2013, at 9:04 PM, shaun everiss wrote: > Well I guess if we had to go forum then we could go forum. > I still like the list idea, I barely have the time to make it through the > audiogames forum as I always have a lot to cover, the general, the new games, > the articles and news and offtopics. > True I don't read all of it but often things do get missed. > I have used googlegroups for some time and have had no issue though if we can > ever fix the issues on the server well. > It may be worth in the first instance, formatting the mailman server, and > starting from scratch maybe some of the database files got dammaged over the > move. > I have had no trouble, at all so it could be a spaciffic thing. > > At 03:39 PM 11/15/2013, you wrote: >> Hello, List: >> >> I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the >> Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. >> Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or >> notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail >> by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post >> messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite >> numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as >> yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. >> >> Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems >> with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server >> admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I >> think it might be in our best interests to think about a different >> solution. What I mean by that is simply this. >> >> I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing >> list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the >> software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle >> for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as >> is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days >> I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this >> list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. >> Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go >> back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? >> >> Sincerely, >> Thomas Ward >> Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, I would prefer to have a mailing list rather than a forum, but I wouldn't go with Yahoo Groups anymore as the site has become hard to use ever since they switched to a different CMS or something. Lots of sighted people are also complaining about it from what I read. I wonder if Freelists might be a better option? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Would strongly agree to keeping E-mail list! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:40 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Tom. I'm afraid I'd not be in favour of an audeasy forum, simply because there already is! an accessible games forum, and frankly I would have too much business checking two forums, also it'd make it quite difficult for developers and others to communicate on both systems. I'd personally suggest setting up a google groups list, since google groups are fairly reliable, and you'd still get the bennifits of running a mailing list, particularly having an alternative to audiogames.net for those people who don't enjoy forums. I've had experience with google groups myself over the entombed list, and I can say they work reliably so long as moderator in put continues and the list doesn't get abandoned. All the best, dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
The same here: I'd prefer a mailing list. Thanks. Angela from Italy Il 15/11/2013 04:53, Charles Rivard ha scritto: If Yahoogroups is not very accessible, I wonder if Googlegroups is. I, for one, very much prefer a mailing list over a forum. I would only even consider a forum as the absolute last resort. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: ANGRY BIRDS: Acquista Peluche e Gadget Originali su mistercupido.com Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12900&d=15-11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Well catch it and stick it in the microwave if you have seen the gremlin 1 and 2 films you will know what I am talking about. hmm also I think the film mentioned not feading it after mightnight. Dark have you being feeding the gremlin again or something At 06:02 PM 11/15/2013, you wrote: Hi Lisa, More like a gremlin got hold of my server and has been messing with Mailman. Everything else seems to be working just fine, but the list, the main thing we got this server for, is jinxed. On 11/14/13, Lisa Hayes wrote: > well blame the grew, i hope that this situation can be resolved. > Lisa Hayes > > > > > www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Is it fubar?, or is it snafu. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Ryan, Yes, I know. What I believe happened when we moved the Audyssey account from one webhost to another something got fubar in the process, and we have had problems ever since. If we can't locate said problems we may have to just delete the account and recreate it from scratch. That would be quite a bit of work, but would fix the problem once and for all. I have other lists on the same server, and haven't had the same problems so it isn't Mailman's fault per say. I think there is something up with the configuration for the Audyssey List specifically. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Ryan Smith wrote: Hello, Mailman is a very popular, and successfully runs in places with many more members than here. It's the servers fault, not Mailman. Perhaps it would run better if you could have control over it yourself Thomas, on a VPS or something similar? Thanks. -Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
the web portal of googlegroups is not accessable at all for the blind to handle the new systems google uses really have not sat well with me and don't get me started on yahoo. there is freelists but unsubscribe and format and other such things are interpreted as list commands and the system will then send you an error. is there any way to simply delete the entire database and restart from scratch? it will mean ofcause you may need to reinstall everything and every user would have to resubscribe but who knows. At 04:53 PM 11/15/2013, you wrote: If Yahoogroups is not very accessible, I wonder if Googlegroups is. I, for one, very much prefer a mailing list over a forum. I would only even consider a forum as the absolute last resort. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Well I guess if we had to go forum then we could go forum. I still like the list idea, I barely have the time to make it through the audiogames forum as I always have a lot to cover, the general, the new games, the articles and news and offtopics. True I don't read all of it but often things do get missed. I have used googlegroups for some time and have had no issue though if we can ever fix the issues on the server well. It may be worth in the first instance, formatting the mailman server, and starting from scratch maybe some of the database files got dammaged over the move. I have had no trouble, at all so it could be a spaciffic thing. At 03:39 PM 11/15/2013, you wrote: Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
I vote for yahoogroups or googlegroups. On 11/14/13, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hello, List: > > I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the > Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. > Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or > notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail > by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post > messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite > numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as > yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. > > Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems > with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server > admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I > think it might be in our best interests to think about a different > solution. What I mean by that is simply this. > > I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing > list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the > software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle > for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as > is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days > I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this > list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. > Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go > back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? > > Sincerely, > Thomas Ward > Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Greetings Thomas! I too would prefere a mailing list to a forum. If I want to read a forum I would just go to audiogames.net, no need for 2 blind gameing forums. Sly's 2 cents On 11/14/13, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Ryan, > > Yes, I know. What I believe happened when we moved the Audyssey > account from one webhost to another something got fubar in the > process, and we have had problems ever since. If we can't locate said > problems we may have to just delete the account and recreate it from > scratch. That would be quite a bit of work, but would fix the problem > once and for all. I have other lists on the same server, and haven't > had the same problems so it isn't Mailman's fault per say. I think > there is something up with the configuration for the Audyssey List > specifically. > > Cheers! > > On 11/15/13, Ryan Smith wrote: >> Hello, >> Mailman is a very popular, and successfully runs in places with many more >> members than here. It's the servers fault, not Mailman. Perhaps it would >> run better if you could have control over it yourself Thomas, on a VPS or >> something similar? >> Thanks. >> -Ryan >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Ryan, Yes, I know. What I believe happened when we moved the Audyssey account from one webhost to another something got fubar in the process, and we have had problems ever since. If we can't locate said problems we may have to just delete the account and recreate it from scratch. That would be quite a bit of work, but would fix the problem once and for all. I have other lists on the same server, and haven't had the same problems so it isn't Mailman's fault per say. I think there is something up with the configuration for the Audyssey List specifically. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Ryan Smith wrote: > Hello, > Mailman is a very popular, and successfully runs in places with many more > members than here. It's the servers fault, not Mailman. Perhaps it would > run better if you could have control over it yourself Thomas, on a VPS or > something similar? > Thanks. > -Ryan > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
And causing you head aches i bet. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Lisa, More like a gremlin got hold of my server and has been messing with Mailman. Everything else seems to be working just fine, but the list, the main thing we got this server for, is jinxed. On 11/14/13, Lisa Hayes wrote: well blame the grew, i hope that this situation can be resolved. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello, Mailman is a very popular, and successfully runs in places with many more members than here. It's the servers fault, not Mailman. Perhaps it would run better if you could have control over it yourself Thomas, on a VPS or something similar? Thanks. -Ryan On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Ian, > > It is easier to do than you might think. Most list management software > allows list admins to export and import subscriber lists and things > like that so it isn't all that complicated. It all could be moved in a > couple of hours if I were going to actually do it. However, I'm going > to give the server admins another week before I do anything to the > list. I'm just seeing what people want me to do if this doesn't pan > out. > > Cheers! > > > On 11/14/13, Ian Reed wrote: > > I have never hosted a mailing list on Yahoo or Google, but if you find > > them inaccessible consider http://www.freelists.org/ > > I host a mailing list on it and find the administration interface very > > accessible with many options for customizing headers, footers, welcome > > messages, etc. > > > > That said, I think any move to another system would be a large change > > with a lot of headaches for the admins and subscribers alike so should > > only be considered as a last resort. > > > > Ian Reed > > Try my free games at http://BlindAudioGames.com > > > > > > --- > > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Lisa, More like a gremlin got hold of my server and has been messing with Mailman. Everything else seems to be working just fine, but the list, the main thing we got this server for, is jinxed. On 11/14/13, Lisa Hayes wrote: > well blame the grew, i hope that this situation can be resolved. > Lisa Hayes > > > > > www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Ian, It is easier to do than you might think. Most list management software allows list admins to export and import subscriber lists and things like that so it isn't all that complicated. It all could be moved in a couple of hours if I were going to actually do it. However, I'm going to give the server admins another week before I do anything to the list. I'm just seeing what people want me to do if this doesn't pan out. Cheers! On 11/14/13, Ian Reed wrote: > I have never hosted a mailing list on Yahoo or Google, but if you find > them inaccessible consider http://www.freelists.org/ > I host a mailing list on it and find the administration interface very > accessible with many options for customizing headers, footers, welcome > messages, etc. > > That said, I think any move to another system would be a large change > with a lot of headaches for the admins and subscribers alike so should > only be considered as a last resort. > > Ian Reed > Try my free games at http://BlindAudioGames.com > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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w ell blame the grew, i hope that this situation can be resolved. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Lisa, Jim is still here, but for some reason when he tries to post to the list his messages vanish into cyberspace. I have actually just filed another bug report with the server admin to find out why he can't send posts to this list. It is beginning to bug me that ever since we switched servers this list has been jinxed from the beginning. Nothing has worked quite right for months. Cheers! On 11/14/13, Lisa Hayes wrote: I like that chatter of the list and the free flow of it, but having no issues i don't mind, now where's the kitchen sink gone? grin. Lisa Hayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well let's go with googlegroups then. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Charles, Well, in my opinion google Groups is more accessible than Yahoo Groups for the simple fact Google does offer an audio Captcha for blind users. Granted the audio Captchas are sometimes hard to hear you can get as many audio Captchas as you need until you find one you can use to create and manage your Google Groups accounts. Yahoo's is just plane down right unusable period. So I think if we had to I'd be in favor of giving Google Groups a go. Plus since all of you are already subscribed to the list it is a simple matter for me to transfer your subscriptions as is from our current mailing list to the new one on Google Groups saving everyone the work of having to subscribe etc. It would be pretty painless for you the list members as I would simply have to export and import the list subscriptions from one list server to another. Cheers! On 11/14/13, Charles Rivard wrote: If Yahoogroups is not very accessible, I wonder if Googlegroups is. I, for one, very much prefer a mailing list over a forum. I would only even consider a forum as the absolute last resort. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lisa, Jim is still here, but for some reason when he tries to post to the list his messages vanish into cyberspace. I have actually just filed another bug report with the server admin to find out why he can't send posts to this list. It is beginning to bug me that ever since we switched servers this list has been jinxed from the beginning. Nothing has worked quite right for months. Cheers! On 11/14/13, Lisa Hayes wrote: > I like that chatter of the list and the free flow of it, but having no > issues i don't mind, now where's the kitchen sink gone? grin. > Lisa Hayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, Well, in my opinion google Groups is more accessible than Yahoo Groups for the simple fact Google does offer an audio Captcha for blind users. Granted the audio Captchas are sometimes hard to hear you can get as many audio Captchas as you need until you find one you can use to create and manage your Google Groups accounts. Yahoo's is just plane down right unusable period. So I think if we had to I'd be in favor of giving Google Groups a go. Plus since all of you are already subscribed to the list it is a simple matter for me to transfer your subscriptions as is from our current mailing list to the new one on Google Groups saving everyone the work of having to subscribe etc. It would be pretty painless for you the list members as I would simply have to export and import the list subscriptions from one list server to another. Cheers! On 11/14/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > If Yahoogroups is not very accessible, I wonder if Googlegroups is. I, for > > one, very much prefer a mailing list over a forum. I would only even > consider a forum as the absolute last resort. Thanks. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > > you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I like that chatter of the list and the free flow of it, but having no issues i don't mind, now where's the kitchen sink gone? grin. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hey, Thomas. I actually like the email instead of forum. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I have never hosted a mailing list on Yahoo or Google, but if you find them inaccessible consider http://www.freelists.org/ I host a mailing list on it and find the administration interface very accessible with many options for customizing headers, footers, welcome messages, etc. That said, I think any move to another system would be a large change with a lot of headaches for the admins and subscribers alike so should only be considered as a last resort. Ian Reed Try my free games at http://BlindAudioGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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If Yahoogroups is not very accessible, I wonder if Googlegroups is. I, for one, very much prefer a mailing list over a forum. I would only even consider a forum as the absolute last resort. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Actually, that's not correct. When it emails me an update about the post, it puts a copy of the post in the email as well. Not sure why you're not getting the same thing, but it's doing it for me. Regards: Dallas On 20/03/2013, at 23:23, "dark" wrote: > Yes, audiogames.net also has that feature, though bare in mind it doesn't > actually send posts to your inbox, just a mail with a link to view the new > reply on the forum, which is actually why i don't use that feature myself > since I just find it quicker and easier to log in and check manually. > > Beware the Grue! > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Yes, audiogames.net also has that feature, though bare in mind it doesn't actually send posts to your inbox, just a mail with a link to view the new reply on the forum, which is actually why i don't use that feature myself since I just find it quicker and easier to log in and check manually. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Dallas O'Brien" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List Hi, On the other hand, if the forum is set up correctly, you can subscribe to threads with your email address. In which case new posts to the thread will be delivered to your mailbox much like an email list. However, there is still something about an email list that lends itself to what we're doing. Oh well, I guess we'll just see what happens. LOL. Regards: Dallas On 20/03/2013, at 5:15, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Dark, That's understandable. I would probably not visit Audiogames.net as often if Audyssey had a forum since there wouldn't be a need to check both forums as often. With the list setup it is much easier than a forum anyway because messages get delivered directly to your e-mail inbox. Every time you check your mail the messages from the list are in your mail inbox rather than having to go to a forum, log in, and locate the new posts. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, On the other hand, if the forum is set up correctly, you can subscribe to threads with your email address. In which case new posts to the thread will be delivered to your mailbox much like an email list. However, there is still something about an email list that lends itself to what we're doing. Oh well, I guess we'll just see what happens. LOL. Regards: Dallas On 20/03/2013, at 5:15, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Dark, > > That's understandable. I would probably not visit Audiogames.net as > often if Audyssey had a forum since there wouldn't be a need to check > both forums as often. > > With the list setup it is much easier than a forum anyway because > messages get delivered directly to your e-mail inbox. Every time you > check your mail the messages from the list are in your mail inbox > rather than having to go to a forum, log in, and locate the new posts. > > Cheers! > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. I agree on the topic structure being good in forums, though in fairness deleting messages in a thread I'm not interested in on a mailing list isn't too much trouble either. Just as an informational point however, when looking on the index, the general "new" link at the top will indeed give you all new topics on the forum, however next to each forum room there is a link labled "new posts" that will give you just the new posts in that room. this is as I said why i am a fan of the Punbb system, since it doesn't have a load of random pointless links to navigate all over the place the way some forums I've seen do, much less when reading posts, and the links it does have are actually usefull ones. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, I for one agree with you. If people want to have a forum for off topic messages why not use the Audiogames.net forum. It already has an off topic room for this purpose. Once again, it begs the question, why reinvent the wheel? Besides that not everyone, myself included, necessarily wants to read a bunch of off topic posts. Any more when I read the Audiogames.net forum I go directly to the room or rooms such as General so I don't have to read all the off topic posts about weather or not braille is necessary any more, or if someone can help someone else install Windows 8, etc. I realize those topics are important to someone, otherwise they wouldn't exist, but I don't have the time to read every off topic post that gets posted to the forum. Sometimes I do read and respond to those threads, but only if I am board and have nothing else to do at that moment. Otherwise I go for just the rundown on what's new or read about a game I am interested in and skip the rest. Cheers! On 3/19/13, dark wrote: > I aadmit I'm a little biased on this, what with being admin of the > audiogames.net forum etc, but what would be the point? People are quite free > > to use the offtopic room of audiogames. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I aadmit I'm a little biased on this, what with being admin of the audiogames.net forum etc, but what would be the point? People are quite free to use the offtopic room of audiogames. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi tom. well in fairness all you need to actually do to get the new posts on a forum is click the "new posts" link. Some forums I admit can be a pest to navigate, but punbb, and especially the customized version of punbb that audiogames.net uses tends to be fine. while I agree mailing list delivery is convenient, for me it also has a drawback. i'll hapily sign up to many forums even if temporarily, or even if i just want to ask a question. if I start playing a game, i'll sign up to the forum just to ask about that specific game, indeed I might well sign up to the storm8 forumswhile I test the games. Same goes for forums for other things, for instance I signed up to a doctor who forum when i was writing Dr. who episode reviews. Even if I don't post much, it doesn't matter, and there is no practical limit on how many forums I sign up for. Mailing lists on the other hand I am very careful about, and other than signing up for news letters or the like. won't join discussion lists, since I don't want that volume of mail through my inbox, I have more than enough already. so there are pros and cons to both systems really and i can quite understand why people prefer one or the other. all the best, dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
I don't mean kill the email list but have both, in fact moving the offtopic stuff to a forum could do something but yeah I know what you mean. I look at email 100 times a day and only look at the audiogames forum once or twice a day only posting every so often rather than well more often. At 01:05 AM 3/20/2013, you wrote: Actually, if the audeasy list did! change to a forum, I would probably be a less frequent visitor myself, since I don't particularly have the time to check two sets of forums a day, though one forum and one mailing list are okay. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
Hi Dark, That's understandable. I would probably not visit Audiogames.net as often if Audyssey had a forum since there wouldn't be a need to check both forums as often. With the list setup it is much easier than a forum anyway because messages get delivered directly to your e-mail inbox. Every time you check your mail the messages from the list are in your mail inbox rather than having to go to a forum, log in, and locate the new posts. Cheers! On 3/19/13, dark wrote: > Actually, if the audeasy list did! change to a forum, I would probably be a > > less frequent visitor myself, since I don't particularly have the time to > check two sets of forums a day, though one forum and one mailing list are > okay. > > all the best, > > Dark. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
Actually, if the audeasy list did! change to a forum, I would probably be a less frequent visitor myself, since I don't particularly have the time to check two sets of forums a day, though one forum and one mailing list are okay. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
I am glad to hear that. I find the forum kind of confusing and hard to deal with. Emails just seem easier over all. As for the trim message thing, I know I have a hard time remembering, because this is the only list I know of that I am on that practices it, so sorry for those. I need like a little leprechaun to slap me upside the head everytime I forget to trim the message, grin. al "The truth will set you free" Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
HI, Thanks for the clarifications Thom. One other thing that list members can do is to send messsages as plain text. For the most part plain text is sufficient. Sending as plain text decreases the size of each message by a lot. Of course it is better to send links and such as html. HTH. Shermanator - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:27 PM Hi Shaun, No, there is no way to automatically split or trim a message to the write length that I am aware of. To trim a message I just scroll down a few lines, to the end of the post I am replying to, and do a shift-control-end to select everything to the end of the message, and press delete. For example, since I am only responding to you I went down a few lines to the beginning of Charles's post, and selected everything to the end of the message and then deleted it. Now, all we have is roughly a page or so of text containing your message and my reply to it. If everyone did that most messages would probably be 5 KB or so at most, because there would not be these huge messages containing reply after reply in them. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
I'm not careful with the trimming either, and need to do better at it. Too bad you can't get a reminder every time you write a message lol. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List I agree with Tom's thoughts as far as moderation goes, and I do confess I'm not always careful to trim my messages either. On the forum point, it's actually surprising how many people only are in one place or the other, or are in one place the majority of the time and only look in on the other occasionally. Anyone who does! prefer forums is welcome on the audiogames.net forum. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
I agree with Tom's thoughts as far as moderation goes, and I do confess I'm not always careful to trim my messages either. On the forum point, it's actually surprising how many people only are in one place or the other, or are in one place the majority of the time and only look in on the other occasionally. Anyone who does! prefer forums is welcome on the audiogames.net forum. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
I think the list and such will change once we have a forum like audiogames.net does of a sort. there are rooms for general, new stuff, news and offtopic stuff and while I used to hate forums with a passion they kind of grew on me and well I like both obviously email is my first choice to look at but the forums I view once a day also so. At 11:56 AM 3/19/2013, you wrote: Hi Charles, Yes, that's it in a nutshell. I gave detailed explanations why certain guidelines are in place because I don't think people always realize why a certain rule or guideline is there in the first place, and why we would prefer people follow them. Take the issue of trimming messages as an example. I have gotten a few messages over the last few years to the effect what is the big deal, other moderators aren't this picky, list x has no message length, etc and what few of them think about is the fact those lists are probably on Yahoo or Google and the owner of the list isn't paying for bandwidth and storage space so can afford to have 20 KB, 50 KB, or 100 KB messages. Its no skin off his rear since Yahoo or Google is covering the costs to have that much space and bandwidth wasted. When you are the soul admin of a list and there are actual admin costs associated with its operation it makes sense to set some very basic limits to keep the costs down. By telling people why a certain guideline like that exists makes people more willing to follow it than just say this or that is the rules and give no explanation for it. In my experience as a parent and a list moderator people are much more willing to listen to the rules, the guidelines, when there is a clear reason why that rule or guideline exists. When people are unable to see a clear reason for a rule they are more often as not likely willing to ignore it., and then we have problems since someone is out of line. On 3/18/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Hi, Tom: Don't think that you're sounding like a hard case. What you're > basically asking us to do is to follow the guidelines with explanations as > to why. We should, individually, moderate our own messages in order to help > > take the load, and expense off of you, and I'll work on my messages, that's > > for sure. I appreciate the work you do. Thanks. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
so do I. on that note is there a way you can automatic split messages, I know what you mean a reply to a reply to a reply. Ok if its all one topic fine, but maybe if you only allow up to the message length and then after that you somehow trim the message though there is probably issues with that to. Sometimes I get replies and it ends up with the message you origionaly wanted being lost at the end of the message somewhere. At 10:02 AM 3/19/2013, you wrote: Hi, Tom: Don't think that you're sounding like a hard case. What you're basically asking us to do is to follow the guidelines with explanations as to why. We should, individually, moderate our own messages in order to help take the load, and expense off of you, and I'll work on my messages, that's for sure. I appreciate the work you do. Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List Hi all, I don't want to sound like a serious hard case here, but there are a few list issues I felt that needed addressed, and further more I could address them all in a single post. So please read this message and consider it as your final warning on these issues. Inflammatory Comments As per the guidelines list members are to treat other list members with a certain degree of respect, and that can go for games and other products as well. Using terms such as retarded, stupid, crap, etc are just negative and do not offer any sort of constructive criticism how the person might improve his or her post, game, or whatever the inflammatory comment is aimed at.. While I support freedom of speech when and where possible the inflammatory comments and put downs stop here. Anyone caught putting another person or product down in such a manner will be put on 30 days moderation no questions asked. Proper Spelling While I'm sure we all prefer reading posts where the person has done his or her best to proofread the contents, spell words correctly, and use proper punctuation I am none-the-less aware that we are not all perfect and make mistakes. Moreover I am also aware that many people who may be on this list may have additional disabilities besides being visually impaired. Dyslexia, for example, has been known to effect the person's ability to properly spell words. Since we do not know each and everyone of you personally, have no way of knowing if there is any mental impairments involved, it is difficult for us to impose a rule to use proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation on the list. That said, I think there is a solution to the problem. If you or anyone else has a problem with a certain list members spelling, punctuation, or grammar we can attempt to mediate it off list. Rather than bringing the subject up on list, disrupting the flow of a topic, you should e-mail the moderators at gamers-ow...@audyssey.org and we can attempt to mediate the situation, and see if there is a real medical reason for the persons poor spelling, grammar, etc or it is simply a case of a person being a lazy poster. In either case I don't want it to become a witch hunt, or continue to be a source of contention on list. Subject Lines As with many mailing lists it is always a good idea to rename the subject of the post when the topic changes. There are two important reasons for this. First, if someone is going through an inbox full of messages, and if they are like me, they delete everything that they don't intend to read or respond to. So if you ask about Castaways in a message with the subject of Swamp chances are that a good number of people who could have helped with your question deleted the post unread because the message was titled incorrectly. Second, is this list archives all of the messages, and if messages are archived under the wrong subject line it makes it difficult to later locate the answer to a question when it is stored in a thread unrelated to the topic being searched for. So if you intend to change the topic of a thread change the subject line as well. It will make life easier for everyone all around. Message Length While I have never considered this a serious disciplinary problem it still remains to be a common problem with list members. When we created this list we gave it a cap of a 10 KB limit per message which is about three pages of text. Just enough for one message plus a response in most cases. There were two reasons for this 10 KB limit. At the time we created this list there were still plenty of people who have to pay for the amount of bandwidth they use per month. The more e-mail they download the more they have to pay. This is still the case in some places, and we of course want to keep the relative cost of being a list subscriber down for those people who have to p
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List
Hi, Tom: Don't think that you're sounding like a hard case. What you're basically asking us to do is to follow the guidelines with explanations as to why. We should, individually, moderate our own messages in order to help take the load, and expense off of you, and I'll work on my messages, that's for sure. I appreciate the work you do. Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message for the List Hi all, I don't want to sound like a serious hard case here, but there are a few list issues I felt that needed addressed, and further more I could address them all in a single post. So please read this message and consider it as your final warning on these issues. Inflammatory Comments As per the guidelines list members are to treat other list members with a certain degree of respect, and that can go for games and other products as well. Using terms such as retarded, stupid, crap, etc are just negative and do not offer any sort of constructive criticism how the person might improve his or her post, game, or whatever the inflammatory comment is aimed at.. While I support freedom of speech when and where possible the inflammatory comments and put downs stop here. Anyone caught putting another person or product down in such a manner will be put on 30 days moderation no questions asked. Proper Spelling While I'm sure we all prefer reading posts where the person has done his or her best to proofread the contents, spell words correctly, and use proper punctuation I am none-the-less aware that we are not all perfect and make mistakes. Moreover I am also aware that many people who may be on this list may have additional disabilities besides being visually impaired. Dyslexia, for example, has been known to effect the person's ability to properly spell words. Since we do not know each and everyone of you personally, have no way of knowing if there is any mental impairments involved, it is difficult for us to impose a rule to use proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation on the list. That said, I think there is a solution to the problem. If you or anyone else has a problem with a certain list members spelling, punctuation, or grammar we can attempt to mediate it off list. Rather than bringing the subject up on list, disrupting the flow of a topic, you should e-mail the moderators at gamers-ow...@audyssey.org and we can attempt to mediate the situation, and see if there is a real medical reason for the persons poor spelling, grammar, etc or it is simply a case of a person being a lazy poster. In either case I don't want it to become a witch hunt, or continue to be a source of contention on list. Subject Lines As with many mailing lists it is always a good idea to rename the subject of the post when the topic changes. There are two important reasons for this. First, if someone is going through an inbox full of messages, and if they are like me, they delete everything that they don't intend to read or respond to. So if you ask about Castaways in a message with the subject of Swamp chances are that a good number of people who could have helped with your question deleted the post unread because the message was titled incorrectly. Second, is this list archives all of the messages, and if messages are archived under the wrong subject line it makes it difficult to later locate the answer to a question when it is stored in a thread unrelated to the topic being searched for. So if you intend to change the topic of a thread change the subject line as well. It will make life easier for everyone all around. Message Length While I have never considered this a serious disciplinary problem it still remains to be a common problem with list members. When we created this list we gave it a cap of a 10 KB limit per message which is about three pages of text. Just enough for one message plus a response in most cases. There were two reasons for this 10 KB limit. At the time we created this list there were still plenty of people who have to pay for the amount of bandwidth they use per month. The more e-mail they download the more they have to pay. This is still the case in some places, and we of course want to keep the relative cost of being a list subscriber down for those people who have to pay for the amount of bandwidth they use per month by filtering out any unnecessary junk such as having 50 KB messages with multiple copies of messages going all the way back to the beginning of the thread which is ridiculous. More importantly the list owner, yours truly, is now responsible for paying for the amount of bandwidth used by the list, sending and receiving messages, and I see no need to use more bandwidth than absolutely necessary. I have purchased an 8 GB
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message About Skynet
Well spam and other junk as well as this type of user to user arguing seem to be a feature of not just this list but other places. I have not seen it appear really at all on the audiogames forum as bad though we get spam bots. Unfortunately its happened on klango to the degree where I have terminated all group and forum subscriptions. Due to the fact the klango seems not to be playing youtubes for some reason or even loading them right I am seriously thinking of deleting my backups, data, the software and my account if at all possible. I havn't but I suspect that every place the blind hang out seems to get into this stuff. Ofcause everyone has their own opinions but what will often happen as when any dissaggreements happen they will often become large arguments ending in the topic itself being forgot and ending in bickering and personal attacks. Imyself have to much to do to be participating in this. I was going to put a new topic but since its been highlighted well. This is why a lot of devs don't even want a part of this list. Memebers are to childish and think they control all game makers. At 04:59 PM 8/16/2011, you wrote: Hi all, it has come to my attention that a few of you have decided to send some negative messages to Skynet regarding their recent down time, and I shouldn't have to tell you that this is unacceptable behavior. First of all, they will only talk to me regarding the server administration or web account as I am the account holder. So trying to talk to them on my behalf or whatever you think you are doing isn't helping matters for me or them. So stop doing it! Second of all, if you have questions about the website those should be directed to myself personally. If you can't get through to me via the support address you can get me via my personal address thomasward1...@gmail.com and I expect you to consider me the contact person in terms of anything to do with the USA Games website. If something needs fixed, updated, or I decide to change my account status that will be between myself and Skynet. So, please, sease and desist e-mailing them with questions, complaints, suggestions, as they have had a very rough day reinstalling and reconfiguring the servers and web accounts. Your e-mails to them were getting in the way of there attempts to getting things back up and running for myself and everyone else who use them for hosting. Finally, to let you know how serious I consider this if I get more reports that someone is going to my web host and bashing them, asking them lots of needless questions while they are working hard to fix things, whatever I'll speak to Damien and Kevin about having your subscription terminated personally. There is no excuse for this behavior. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing list --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message About Skynet
This is why a lot of devs don't even want a part of this list. Memebers are to childish and think they control all game makers. At 04:59 PM 8/16/2011, you wrote: Hi all, it has come to my attention that a few of you have decided to send some negative messages to Skynet regarding their recent down time, and I shouldn't have to tell you that this is unacceptable behavior. First of all, they will only talk to me regarding the server administration or web account as I am the account holder. So trying to talk to them on my behalf or whatever you think you are doing isn't helping matters for me or them. So stop doing it! Second of all, if you have questions about the website those should be directed to myself personally. If you can't get through to me via the support address you can get me via my personal address thomasward1...@gmail.com and I expect you to consider me the contact person in terms of anything to do with the USA Games website. If something needs fixed, updated, or I decide to change my account status that will be between myself and Skynet. So, please, sease and desist e-mailing them with questions, complaints, suggestions, as they have had a very rough day reinstalling and reconfiguring the servers and web accounts. Your e-mails to them were getting in the way of there attempts to getting things back up and running for myself and everyone else who use them for hosting. Finally, to let you know how serious I consider this if I get more reports that someone is going to my web host and bashing them, asking them lots of needless questions while they are working hard to fix things, whatever I'll speak to Damien and Kevin about having your subscription terminated personally. There is no excuse for this behavior. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing list --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator Important Message About Skynet
Hi all, it has come to my attention that a few of you have decided to send some negative messages to Skynet regarding their recent down time, and I shouldn't have to tell you that this is unacceptable behavior. First of all, they will only talk to me regarding the server administration or web account as I am the account holder. So trying to talk to them on my behalf or whatever you think you are doing isn't helping matters for me or them. So stop doing it! Second of all, if you have questions about the website those should be directed to myself personally. If you can't get through to me via the support address you can get me via my personal address thomasward1...@gmail.com and I expect you to consider me the contact person in terms of anything to do with the USA Games website. If something needs fixed, updated, or I decide to change my account status that will be between myself and Skynet. So, please, sease and desist e-mailing them with questions, complaints, suggestions, as they have had a very rough day reinstalling and reconfiguring the servers and web accounts. Your e-mails to them were getting in the way of there attempts to getting things back up and running for myself and everyone else who use them for hosting. Finally, to let you know how serious I consider this if I get more reports that someone is going to my web host and bashing them, asking them lots of needless questions while they are working hard to fix things, whatever I'll speak to Damien and Kevin about having your subscription terminated personally. There is no excuse for this behavior. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing list --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator important message
Thomas Jim kitchen and I were not getting messages yesterday but I am now. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator important message Hi Ron, I'll ask Raul too look at the server side, but messages seem to be working fine for me. I have copies of everything in the list archives so its not like the server itself is dropping messages, or at least not for me. However, this issue does require further investigation I think. On 6/21/11, Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi Tom and all. It seems I may not be the only person not getting emails from the list. As an example I didn't see my earlier email in my inbox, your reply, or in fact the moderator message. I had to find these by checking the archives. I'm having no other trouble with email either personally or groups so wonder if there is something strange on the server end? Take care Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
well tom I can safely say that over the net its all slowed down. Even all my tech lists are quiet. from getting 60 up to 100-300 a day its dropped down to sometimes barely 50 messages a day or less. At 01:10 a.m. 22/06/2011, you wrote: Hi all, I've noticed quite a number of test messages from various members wondering if the Audyssey list is down etc. Let me begin by assuring all of you that the list is not down, and everything is working just fine. It just so happens that now that we are into the summer season list traffic is a lot less than it normally is. particularly during the weekends where people are away doing something else. I'm not certain why list traffic is less than normal other than the fact it is now summer for a lot of people, particularly in North America and Europe, and perhaps people aren't on list as often as they usually are during the colder months of the year. Anyway, rather than bombarding the list with test messages one way to find out if the list is working or if you are getting all of the list messages is to head over to http://www.audyssey.org and check the recent archives by date. If the most recent message in the archive matches what you have received then your list subscription and e-mail is working fine. Its just a matter of low list traffic. We the moderators would prefer you try this before sending x number of test messages asking if the list is working. Another, perhaps more constructive, way to test the list is simply to open a new thread or topic on the list. Rather than sending a test message asking about if the list is working simply write a message about some game and if it goes through you know the list is working. Perhaps in the process some people will respond and list traffic will pick back up again. Which is your aim in the first place I think. In either case while test messages aren't banned there are better more constructive ways to find out what you want than resorting to test messages. So please if you are wondering about the lists status try one of the above before resorting to test messages. Thanks. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator important message
Hi Tom It's funny but this message I did indeed get to the inbox. I can always check on this end as well. Cheers Ron - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator important message Hi Ron, I'll ask Raul too look at the server side, but messages seem to be working fine for me. I have copies of everything in the list archives so its not like the server itself is dropping messages, or at least not for me. However, this issue does require further investigation I think. On 6/21/11, Ron Schamerhorn wrote: > Hi Tom and all. > > It seems I may not be the only person not getting emails from the list. > As an example I didn't see my earlier email in my inbox, your reply, or in > fact the moderator message. > I had to find these by checking the archives. I'm having no other > trouble > with email either personally or groups so wonder if there is something > strange on the server end? > > Take care > Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator important message
Hi Ron, I'll ask Raul too look at the server side, but messages seem to be working fine for me. I have copies of everything in the list archives so its not like the server itself is dropping messages, or at least not for me. However, this issue does require further investigation I think. On 6/21/11, Ron Schamerhorn wrote: > Hi Tom and all. > > It seems I may not be the only person not getting emails from the list. > As an example I didn't see my earlier email in my inbox, your reply, or in > fact the moderator message. > I had to find these by checking the archives. I'm having no other trouble > with email either personally or groups so wonder if there is something > strange on the server end? > > Take care > Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator important message
Hi, I haven't been getting messages either. What's even more strange is that I have recovered a few out of my spam folder. They never went there before, so I really don't know what's going on. On 6/21/11, Ron Schamerhorn wrote: > Hi Tom and all. > > It seems I may not be the only person not getting emails from the list. > As an example I didn't see my earlier email in my inbox, your reply, or in > fact the moderator message. > I had to find these by checking the archives. I'm having no other trouble > with email either personally or groups so wonder if there is something > strange on the server end? > > Take care > Ron > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator important message
Hi Tom and all. It seems I may not be the only person not getting emails from the list. As an example I didn't see my earlier email in my inbox, your reply, or in fact the moderator message. I had to find these by checking the archives. I'm having no other trouble with email either personally or groups so wonder if there is something strange on the server end? Take care Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi all, I've noticed quite a number of test messages from various members wondering if the Audyssey list is down etc. Let me begin by assuring all of you that the list is not down, and everything is working just fine. It just so happens that now that we are into the summer season list traffic is a lot less than it normally is. particularly during the weekends where people are away doing something else. I'm not certain why list traffic is less than normal other than the fact it is now summer for a lot of people, particularly in North America and Europe, and perhaps people aren't on list as often as they usually are during the colder months of the year. Anyway, rather than bombarding the list with test messages one way to find out if the list is working or if you are getting all of the list messages is to head over to http://www.audyssey.org and check the recent archives by date. If the most recent message in the archive matches what you have received then your list subscription and e-mail is working fine. Its just a matter of low list traffic. We the moderators would prefer you try this before sending x number of test messages asking if the list is working. Another, perhaps more constructive, way to test the list is simply to open a new thread or topic on the list. Rather than sending a test message asking about if the list is working simply write a message about some game and if it goes through you know the list is working. Perhaps in the process some people will respond and list traffic will pick back up again. Which is your aim in the first place I think. In either case while test messages aren't banned there are better more constructive ways to find out what you want than resorting to test messages. So please if you are wondering about the lists status try one of the above before resorting to test messages. Thanks. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
