Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
Um...Phil did not develop super edging Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Lori Duncan wrote: > Hi Phil what about young adults who love game fun too, maube someday he'll > work on more games for older people too, although I'd think Super Egg Hunt a > good one for kids, oh and Packman and Sarah also. > - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH? > > >> Hi Thomas, >> The games from APH are designed to be purchased by sighted teachers for >> blind and visually impaired children. >> They all have large print graphics. >> Larry Skutchan is the head of development and being totally blind he is >> aware of the range of games for the blind as he purchased all of PCS earlier >> DOS games. >> Unfortunately he has to have the game concepts accepted by a board of >> advisers who probably reduced the challenge in the game concepts to make >> them easier to play for young children. >> >> I had fun playing Toodle Tiles, Based on the ancient game of Mahjong >> And Talking Word Puzzles is very challenging. >> It is an accessible crossword puzzle game. >> The others, Armadillo Army, Termite torpedo, and Hurry Scurry >> I wouldn't buy as they are too easy. >> >> Phil >> >> - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH? >> >> >>> Hi Ryan, >>> >>> In my personal opinion the games aren't worth the price. It has always >>> seamed to me the developer who created the APH games wasn't aware >>> there are plenty of competing accessible games out there on the >>> market. Besides the high price they are not that great to begin with. >>> To me Shades of Doom or something else is far better games and are >>> worth the price to license. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> On 1/22/11, Ryan Conroy wrote: >>>> Hey everyone, >>>> >>>> I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, >>>> but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, >>>> and are they worth it? The games are: >>>> Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. >>>> Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. >>>> If anyone has any information, please let me know. >>>> Take care, >>>> Ryan >>>> >>>> >>>> Globe Life Insurance >>>> $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. >>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>> - >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3396 - Release Date: 01/22/11 >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
Hi Phil what about young adults who love game fun too, maube someday he'll work on more games for older people too, although I'd think Super Egg Hunt a good one for kids, oh and Packman and Sarah also. - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH? Hi Thomas, The games from APH are designed to be purchased by sighted teachers for blind and visually impaired children. They all have large print graphics. Larry Skutchan is the head of development and being totally blind he is aware of the range of games for the blind as he purchased all of PCS earlier DOS games. Unfortunately he has to have the game concepts accepted by a board of advisers who probably reduced the challenge in the game concepts to make them easier to play for young children. I had fun playing Toodle Tiles, Based on the ancient game of Mahjong And Talking Word Puzzles is very challenging. It is an accessible crossword puzzle game. The others, Armadillo Army, Termite torpedo, and Hurry Scurry I wouldn't buy as they are too easy. Phil - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH? Hi Ryan, In my personal opinion the games aren't worth the price. It has always seamed to me the developer who created the APH games wasn't aware there are plenty of competing accessible games out there on the market. Besides the high price they are not that great to begin with. To me Shades of Doom or something else is far better games and are worth the price to license. HTH On 1/22/11, Ryan Conroy wrote: Hey everyone, I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, and are they worth it? The games are: Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Take care, Ryan Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3396 - Release Date: 01/22/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
Hi Thomas, The games from APH are designed to be purchased by sighted teachers for blind and visually impaired children. They all have large print graphics. Larry Skutchan is the head of development and being totally blind he is aware of the range of games for the blind as he purchased all of PCS earlier DOS games. Unfortunately he has to have the game concepts accepted by a board of advisers who probably reduced the challenge in the game concepts to make them easier to play for young children. I had fun playing Toodle Tiles, Based on the ancient game of Mahjong And Talking Word Puzzles is very challenging. It is an accessible crossword puzzle game. The others, Armadillo Army, Termite torpedo, and Hurry Scurry I wouldn't buy as they are too easy. Phil - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH? Hi Ryan, In my personal opinion the games aren't worth the price. It has always seamed to me the developer who created the APH games wasn't aware there are plenty of competing accessible games out there on the market. Besides the high price they are not that great to begin with. To me Shades of Doom or something else is far better games and are worth the price to license. HTH On 1/22/11, Ryan Conroy wrote: Hey everyone, I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, and are they worth it? The games are: Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Take care, Ryan Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3396 - Release Date: 01/22/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
Hi. Actually, I like termite torpedo. It actually takes some intelligence and strategy to play that game. And the voiceovers for it are fantastic. I'd venture to say that it has the best recorded voiceover of any game I have ever played, audio or not. On 1/23/2011 12:48 AM, shaun everiss wrote: I wouldn't touch them. I played termite torpedo once. Its probably good if you are the average poor handicapt blind retard maybe even a child that has even less inteligence than a deranged retard and is generally bad and likes to format his drive or run things like lets see what this command does kind of thing. But for any real computer user, ie one that can actually know what the internet is, well. Long and short is These are worse than bavisoft and they well are not for us. Maybe some narrow minded sole made these because thats what the retarded blind are worth. I don't want to be associated with the blind retards association and I don't play these though I did find and try these ages ago. To say, bd, is an understatement. If you want something like this, then you should play the kitchensinc games. Yeah, basic, and quite old school but at least they emulate the physical boards and actually are enjoyable. At 03:56 p.m. 23/01/2011, you wrote: Hey everyone, I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, and are they worth it? The games are: Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Take care, Ryan Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
Also, after trying on three different machines, I've never! got the damn things to work, that's one reason why armadillo army has no written description in the database, though I'm tempted to just put something together from the instructions, bad as that sounds (usually I always try to play a game before describing it). Eitherway, apparently they wrote ridiculously symple audio games, slapped a price on them, and called them a revolutionary new product considdering they were the first audio games ever created, despite the fact that a bit of googling would've shown them different. Oh, and the method they apparently use for showing audio directions is just insane! According to someone who described the games on audiogames.net, instead of hereing something in sterrio pan, you here a voice pout of center speakers saying "right right right" or "left left left" depending upon where the enemy or object is, which is just ridiculous! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
I wouldn't touch them. I played termite torpedo once. Its probably good if you are the average poor handicapt blind retard maybe even a child that has even less inteligence than a deranged retard and is generally bad and likes to format his drive or run things like lets see what this command does kind of thing. But for any real computer user, ie one that can actually know what the internet is, well. Long and short is These are worse than bavisoft and they well are not for us. Maybe some narrow minded sole made these because thats what the retarded blind are worth. I don't want to be associated with the blind retards association and I don't play these though I did find and try these ages ago. To say, bd, is an understatement. If you want something like this, then you should play the kitchensinc games. Yeah, basic, and quite old school but at least they emulate the physical boards and actually are enjoyable. At 03:56 p.m. 23/01/2011, you wrote: Hey everyone, I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, and are they worth it? The games are: Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Take care, Ryan Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games from APH?
Hi Ryan, In my personal opinion the games aren't worth the price. It has always seamed to me the developer who created the APH games wasn't aware there are plenty of competing accessible games out there on the market. Besides the high price they are not that great to begin with. To me Shades of Doom or something else is far better games and are worth the price to license. HTH On 1/22/11, Ryan Conroy wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, > but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, > and are they worth it? The games are: > Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. > Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. > If anyone has any information, please let me know. > Take care, > Ryan > > > Globe Life Insurance > $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Games from APH?
Hey everyone, I just ran across these games from American Printing House for the Blind, but they seem a little highly priced to me. Does anyone have these games, and are they worth it? The games are: Armidillo Army, Termite Torpedo, and Tudle Tiles or something like that.. Sorry, I know I destroyed the spelling on those, lol. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Take care, Ryan Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d3b990149a1981410ast05vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games with unlabelled buttons
Sinse I can't read in game text but can sometimes see enough graphics to play something like Mega man, I've used this tactic in mainstream games for years. In fact when I bought the Mega man aniversary collection, it almost became a bit of a family joke, me asking my mum to read the level select so that I could remember it ;D. The one thing I will say is that obviously the rest of the game needs to be playable anyway, and also the button structure needs to remain the same and not randomized. there is no good finding one of 100 items at random with unlabled selection choices and no way of identifying them. This is why though I've been able to play Mega man zero games which have about 70 items each (mostly by using heavily anotated faqs), I've never managed any of the later castlevania series, sinse there are just too many items, all of which are obtainable at random, and none of which I could identify once I picked it up. Oh, and obviously the game itself would have to be pretty playable anyway of course. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Darren Duff" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games with unlabelled buttons Well said my friend -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:17 PM To: audyssey gamers list Subject: [Audyssey] games with unlabelled buttons Think about this: You have a digital TV at home. A remote control box operates it. Are the buttons labeled in braille? Does the remote speak when you press a button? Now, you are totally blind and nobody else is at home. You want to watch channel 32 and don't know what channel the TV is tuned to. What do you do? You cannot see the TV screen to see what channel is tuned to. Now, you have an I-Phone and want to play a game that isn't very complex. Can you do it, even though the buttons aren't labeled? Probably not the first time you try, so what's your next step? Maybe you could get a sighted person to tell you which buttons do what when pressed, and memorize them for future use. Maybe you could just press them and see what they do. I would prefer the first approach, but it isn't always available. If you know other totally blind people who do play the game successfully, you could ask them how they do it. This, too, is a good approach. By the way, were you able to change your TV to the channel you wanted to watch? Remember, those buttons probably are not labeled. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5790 (20110115) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5790 (20110115) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Games for android?
Ok since we seem to be on a kick about games for phones and other devices, have any of you had any luck with games for Android phones or devices? I have really not looked into this much but I know that the Eyes Free group has some games listed on their market page. So any experiences good or bad will be welcome. Regards, Tom -- Check out my gaming blog at http://vi-mainstream-games.blogspot.com/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games with unlabelled buttons
Well said my friend -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:17 PM To: audyssey gamers list Subject: [Audyssey] games with unlabelled buttons Think about this: You have a digital TV at home. A remote control box operates it. Are the buttons labeled in braille? Does the remote speak when you press a button? Now, you are totally blind and nobody else is at home. You want to watch channel 32 and don't know what channel the TV is tuned to. What do you do? You cannot see the TV screen to see what channel is tuned to. Now, you have an I-Phone and want to play a game that isn't very complex. Can you do it, even though the buttons aren't labeled? Probably not the first time you try, so what's your next step? Maybe you could get a sighted person to tell you which buttons do what when pressed, and memorize them for future use. Maybe you could just press them and see what they do. I would prefer the first approach, but it isn't always available. If you know other totally blind people who do play the game successfully, you could ask them how they do it. This, too, is a good approach. By the way, were you able to change your TV to the channel you wanted to watch? Remember, those buttons probably are not labeled. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5790 (20110115) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5790 (20110115) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games with unlabelled buttons
Think about this: You have a digital TV at home. A remote control box operates it. Are the buttons labeled in braille? Does the remote speak when you press a button? Now, you are totally blind and nobody else is at home. You want to watch channel 32 and don't know what channel the TV is tuned to. What do you do? You cannot see the TV screen to see what channel is tuned to. Now, you have an I-Phone and want to play a game that isn't very complex. Can you do it, even though the buttons aren't labeled? Probably not the first time you try, so what's your next step? Maybe you could get a sighted person to tell you which buttons do what when pressed, and memorize them for future use. Maybe you could just press them and see what they do. I would prefer the first approach, but it isn't always available. If you know other totally blind people who do play the game successfully, you could ask them how they do it. This, too, is a good approach. By the way, were you able to change your TV to the channel you wanted to watch? Remember, those buttons probably are not labeled. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
I also find that automated tools and web editors etc put in an awful lot of unnecessary coding, that just gets in the way. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 29 December 2010 23:19 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play Hi Mauricio, Agreed. Back when I was in college when I took html the instructer had us use Windows Notepad to code our html pages by hand. The main reason for using a simple text editor like Notepad instead of something like Dream Weaver was so that we could get a firm understanding of html. Plus without having to depend on an automated tool like Dream Weaver we actually had to think about how we wanted to design our pages, think about the types of html tags we wanted to use, and that allowed us to be more creative and customize our pages. Automated wizards like Dream Weaver are nice and handy, but in the long run all you are really doing is borrowing someone elses automated code without any origionality or personalization. When it comes to BGT the same principle applys. A script wizard is nothing more than a bunch of automated code that might help speed up development, but you aren't actually learning how to do it yourself. You are depending on that wizard to do the majority of the work for you. If a person really wants automated code the best thing might be to write up some commonly used code and store it in a text file for later use. If they want to use it simply copy it into their new game, modify it, and are on their way. I do this myself a lot of the time, but I wrote all of my own templates so they are customized for my own personal use from the start rather than having some automatic wizard just generate some totally generic piece of code that may or may not do what I want it to do. Smile. On 12/29/10, Mauricio Almeida wrote: > i am personally against the scripting manager idea, simply because this > way you will never learn to program. > it is like people that say, oh yes, i can web design really really > really well, i only need dreamweaver... > they are always dependent on an automatic interface. > why? because they never went through learning the hard, and really > artistic part of things. > > Mauricio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Hi Lori, Oh, I copy and paste code all the time. As I explained I have written my own templates for the G3D engine containing common code like menus, common status messages, etc and copy and paste it into a new project all the time. There is nothing wrong with that. The difference in what I'm doing is I actually wrote those templates and know exactly how the code works so it is easy to modify and update as needed where an automated template wizard like some people are asking for may not be well suited for your project. It might have things you don't want or need, or lack something you whish it added. Writing your own templates that can be copy and pasted into the project is customized to provide you some automated functionality while being tailored specifically for you personally. On 12/29/10, Lori Duncan wrote: > Ho Tom, instead of writing out the same codes over and over, why can't you > just copy and paste them? Can you do that or does it mess up the engen? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Hi, Of course it is. It is just that most books never tell you that up front. Fortunately, I have read some good books on Visual Basic .NET that actually discusses the mechanics of creating a window by hand rather than pointing and clicking your way into glory. I'm actually glad I did as even though it is more time consuming it is more accessible than trying to get Jaws, Window-Eyes, NVDA, whatever to drag and drop buttons, labels, etc around on the form. I'll just manually code them into my project and forget it. Smile. On 12/29/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi, > Is it actually possible to create the entire window via VB code? If so, I > was not aware of that. > > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Hi, That also gives me another thought. Yeah, even assuming such an automated feature did exist how on earth would someone automate everything anyway. Part of writing games is to get creative, creat new worlds, new civilizations, and to boldly go where no man has gone before. Grin. If you are creating a Jedi Knight game and your template for a player class doesn't have force powers like heal, blind, lightning, whatever you are going to have to add it. If you don't know what the code does there is no way you are going to add it. Philip can't realistically think of a template wizard for everything. As for the "Dreamweaver users" I know exactly what you mean. I can't tell you how many times I've read web pages written in Front Page, Dreamweaver, etc and the html is so messy and sloppily written I feel like telling the owner just to delete it and start over from scratch.Especially, when the editor like Front Page uses a lot of non-standard tags for I.E. and don't work with Safari or Firefox. Like "hello, stupid! Not everyone uses Internet Explorer." That's exactly the kind of crap a person has to put up with when dealing with automated wizards. On 12/29/10, Mauricio Almeida wrote: > Hi tom, > > Indeed, that's sort of what i was thinking before you said it. > you might, as an experienced developer, not want to write up for > instance, the code for a basic corridor again and again. > well, all you do then is use your own template. > this way, both ours and josh§s points are met: you learn programming, > but in the long run, speeds up development. > As a certified web designer, I have seen dreamweaver only designers > stuck with messy code so many times that seriously, i dont even install > dreamweaver anymore, ehh. > the same applies to games. > if you only used a wizard, how would you, for instance, bug fix? > how would you understand your code to argue why or why not such feature > would be added, etc? > > mauricio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Hi, Is it actually possible to create the entire window via VB code? If so, I was not aware of that. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:41 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play Josh, I'm not quite sure how to say this without offending you, but the fact of the matter is you really have to learn a lot of this by studying it firsthand. You can't always depend on some sort of wizard, script helper, or a list of formulas because programming software just does not work that way. There is a lot more to a program than code. There is the issue of programming theory, experience, and logic involved in putting any kind of program together. For example, let's say you want a very basic artificial intelligence system for your game using fuzzy logic. So you click on some wizard that creates a very basic template using some sample fuzzy logic code. Now, if you don't know both the theory and techniques for fuzzy logic how are you going to modify that code to suit your particular game? Well, the truth of the matter is you can't. You'll have to go out and spend some time and money on reading a book or two on both the theory and techniques for fuzzy logic before you will understand the sample code. Just handing the code to you isn't going to explain to you how it works and how it should be properly modified to meet your needs. That is imho the problem with automated systems. They still assume you know and understand what you are doing in the first place and that you have enough skill to actually modify the templates to fulfill your needs. The same goes for math formulas. A formula is just a method for figuring out some unknown value or values. You still have to know how the formula works. Otherwise if you don't you might unintentionally use it incorrectly causing runtime errors in your code. So just handing you a list of formulas isn't necessarily the answer you want. Knowing how to actually work the formulas firsthand will go along way to programming error free code. To quote an old favorite "there is no such thing as a free lunch." Programming is like that too. Nothing worth while is free or automated. Having a firm understanding of how the code works is your best chance at writing stable code. Not knowing how the code works will lead you into errors, problems, and misery. So staying away from automated systems until you know the language well is a good idea. To give you an example of what I mean Microsoft Visual Basic .NET has a number of automated wizards, templates, that allows a developer to create a project rapidly. So let's assume i open VB .NET click on a Form wizard and create a simple dialog box. I use the form editor to set the size of the window, to set the window title, etc. Then, I open up the toolbox and drag a label to the center of the screen and add "Hello World!" to the caption. Finally, I drag and drop a button from the toolbox, name it Close, and then press f7 to open the editor. In the close button clicked event I add Close() to the event. I save my code and compile the project. Voila, At this point I have created a very basic Windows application, but what have I learned about the Visual Basic language itself? Truthfully, I haven't learned a thing. I let Visual Basic .NET do all the work of creating the dialog box, creating the lable, and even the Close button. The only code I added was the Close() method to close the app. Otherwise the IDE did everything for me. If I just want to save time automated wizards like that can be a great time saver, but if I am a student trying to actually learn how a VB .NET form works or how to create my own Windows forms manually I haven't learned a thing. I still wouldn't know anything more than when I started. That's precisely why I would be against any kind of script helper, script wizard, etc because you have to know how this stuff works to really use it effectively anyway. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Josh, I'm not quite sure how to say this without offending you, but the fact of the matter is you really have to learn a lot of this by studying it firsthand. You can't always depend on some sort of wizard, script helper, or a list of formulas because programming software just does not work that way. There is a lot more to a program than code. There is the issue of programming theory, experience, and logic involved in putting any kind of program together. For example, let's say you want a very basic artificial intelligence system for your game using fuzzy logic. So you click on some wizard that creates a very basic template using some sample fuzzy logic code. Now, if you don't know both the theory and techniques for fuzzy logic how are you going to modify that code to suit your particular game? Well, the truth of the matter is you can't. You'll have to go out and spend some time and money on reading a book or two on both the theory and techniques for fuzzy logic before you will understand the sample code. Just handing the code to you isn't going to explain to you how it works and how it should be properly modified to meet your needs. That is imho the problem with automated systems. They still assume you know and understand what you are doing in the first place and that you have enough skill to actually modify the templates to fulfill your needs. The same goes for math formulas. A formula is just a method for figuring out some unknown value or values. You still have to know how the formula works. Otherwise if you don't you might unintentionally use it incorrectly causing runtime errors in your code. So just handing you a list of formulas isn't necessarily the answer you want. Knowing how to actually work the formulas firsthand will go along way to programming error free code. To quote an old favorite "there is no such thing as a free lunch." Programming is like that too. Nothing worth while is free or automated. Having a firm understanding of how the code works is your best chance at writing stable code. Not knowing how the code works will lead you into errors, problems, and misery. So staying away from automated systems until you know the language well is a good idea. To give you an example of what I mean Microsoft Visual Basic .NET has a number of automated wizards, templates, that allows a developer to create a project rapidly. So let's assume i open VB .NET click on a Form wizard and create a simple dialog box. I use the form editor to set the size of the window, to set the window title, etc. Then, I open up the toolbox and drag a label to the center of the screen and add "Hello World!" to the caption. Finally, I drag and drop a button from the toolbox, name it Close, and then press f7 to open the editor. In the close button clicked event I add Close() to the event. I save my code and compile the project. Voila, At this point I have created a very basic Windows application, but what have I learned about the Visual Basic language itself? Truthfully, I haven't learned a thing. I let Visual Basic .NET do all the work of creating the dialog box, creating the lable, and even the Close button. The only code I added was the Close() method to close the app. Otherwise the IDE did everything for me. If I just want to save time automated wizards like that can be a great time saver, but if I am a student trying to actually learn how a VB .NET form works or how to create my own Windows forms manually I haven't learned a thing. I still wouldn't know anything more than when I started. That's precisely why I would be against any kind of script helper, script wizard, etc because you have to know how this stuff works to really use it effectively anyway. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Ho Tom, instead of writing out the same codes over and over, why can't you just copy and paste them? Can you do that or does it mess up the engen? - Original Message - From: "Mauricio Almeida" To: Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play Hi tom, Indeed, that's sort of what i was thinking before you said it. you might, as an experienced developer, not want to write up for instance, the code for a basic corridor again and again. well, all you do then is use your own template. this way, both ours and josh§s points are met: you learn programming, but in the long run, speeds up development. As a certified web designer, I have seen dreamweaver only designers stuck with messy code so many times that seriously, i dont even install dreamweaver anymore, ehh. the same applies to games. if you only used a wizard, how would you, for instance, bug fix? how would you understand your code to argue why or why not such feature would be added, etc? mauricio -Mensagem original- De: Thomas Ward Para: Gamers Discussion list Data: Quarta, 29 de Dezembro de 2010 18:19 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play Hi Mauricio, Agreed. Back when I was in college when I took html the instructer had us use Windows Notepad to code our html pages by hand. The main reason for using a simple text editor like Notepad instead of something like Dream Weaver was so that we could get a firm understanding of html. Plus without having to depend on an automated tool like Dream Weaver we actually had to think about how we wanted to design our pages, think about the types of html tags we wanted to use, and that allowed us to be more creative and customize our pages. Automated wizards like Dream Weaver are nice and handy, but in the long run all you are really doing is borrowing someone elses automated code without any origionality or personalization. When it comes to BGT the same principle applys. A script wizard is nothing more than a bunch of automated code that might help speed up development, but you aren't actually learning how to do it yourself. You are depending on that wizard to do the majority of the work for you. If a person really wants automated code the best thing might be to write up some commonly used code and store it in a text file for later use. If they want to use it simply copy it into their new game, modify it, and are on their way. I do this myself a lot of the time, but I wrote all of my own templates so they are customized for my own personal use from the start rather than having some automatic wizard just generate some totally generic piece of code that may or may not do what I want it to do. Smile. On 12/29/10, Mauricio Almeida wrote: i am personally against the scripting manager idea, simply because this way you will never learn to program. it is like people that say, oh yes, i can web design really really really well, i only need dreamweaver... they are always dependent on an automatic interface. why? because they never went through learning the hard, and really artistic part of things. Mauricio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Hi tom, Indeed, that's sort of what i was thinking before you said it. you might, as an experienced developer, not want to write up for instance, the code for a basic corridor again and again. well, all you do then is use your own template. this way, both ours and josh§s points are met: you learn programming, but in the long run, speeds up development. As a certified web designer, I have seen dreamweaver only designers stuck with messy code so many times that seriously, i dont even install dreamweaver anymore, ehh. the same applies to games. if you only used a wizard, how would you, for instance, bug fix? how would you understand your code to argue why or why not such feature would be added, etc? mauricio -Mensagem original- De: Thomas Ward Para: Gamers Discussion list Data: Quarta, 29 de Dezembro de 2010 18:19 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play Hi Mauricio, Agreed. Back when I was in college when I took html the instructer had us use Windows Notepad to code our html pages by hand. The main reason for using a simple text editor like Notepad instead of something like Dream Weaver was so that we could get a firm understanding of html. Plus without having to depend on an automated tool like Dream Weaver we actually had to think about how we wanted to design our pages, think about the types of html tags we wanted to use, and that allowed us to be more creative and customize our pages. Automated wizards like Dream Weaver are nice and handy, but in the long run all you are really doing is borrowing someone elses automated code without any origionality or personalization. When it comes to BGT the same principle applys. A script wizard is nothing more than a bunch of automated code that might help speed up development, but you aren't actually learning how to do it yourself. You are depending on that wizard to do the majority of the work for you. If a person really wants automated code the best thing might be to write up some commonly used code and store it in a text file for later use. If they want to use it simply copy it into their new game, modify it, and are on their way. I do this myself a lot of the time, but I wrote all of my own templates so they are customized for my own personal use from the start rather than having some automatic wizard just generate some totally generic piece of code that may or may not do what I want it to do. Smile. On 12/29/10, Mauricio Almeida wrote: > i am personally against the scripting manager idea, simply because this > way you will never learn to program. > it is like people that say, oh yes, i can web design really really > really well, i only need dreamweaver... > they are always dependent on an automatic interface. > why? because they never went through learning the hard, and really > artistic part of things. > > Mauricio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Dreamweever, hmmm sounds like a great game title. Maybe have an audio game based on certain dream types, sometimes if I'm dreaming of a game from GMA like Tank Commander, I'll suddenly find myself, still in my tank, hurtteling along a rocky wall grabbing jems, tortchs and moing down harpies. Oh yeah and eating dots to keep my energy levels up. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play Hi Mauricio, Agreed. Back when I was in college when I took html the instructer had us use Windows Notepad to code our html pages by hand. The main reason for using a simple text editor like Notepad instead of something like Dream Weaver was so that we could get a firm understanding of html. Plus without having to depend on an automated tool like Dream Weaver we actually had to think about how we wanted to design our pages, think about the types of html tags we wanted to use, and that allowed us to be more creative and customize our pages. Automated wizards like Dream Weaver are nice and handy, but in the long run all you are really doing is borrowing someone elses automated code without any origionality or personalization. When it comes to BGT the same principle applys. A script wizard is nothing more than a bunch of automated code that might help speed up development, but you aren't actually learning how to do it yourself. You are depending on that wizard to do the majority of the work for you. If a person really wants automated code the best thing might be to write up some commonly used code and store it in a text file for later use. If they want to use it simply copy it into their new game, modify it, and are on their way. I do this myself a lot of the time, but I wrote all of my own templates so they are customized for my own personal use from the start rather than having some automatic wizard just generate some totally generic piece of code that may or may not do what I want it to do. Smile. On 12/29/10, Mauricio Almeida wrote: i am personally against the scripting manager idea, simply because this way you will never learn to program. it is like people that say, oh yes, i can web design really really really well, i only need dreamweaver... they are always dependent on an automatic interface. why? because they never went through learning the hard, and really artistic part of things. Mauricio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Hi Mauricio, Agreed. Back when I was in college when I took html the instructer had us use Windows Notepad to code our html pages by hand. The main reason for using a simple text editor like Notepad instead of something like Dream Weaver was so that we could get a firm understanding of html. Plus without having to depend on an automated tool like Dream Weaver we actually had to think about how we wanted to design our pages, think about the types of html tags we wanted to use, and that allowed us to be more creative and customize our pages. Automated wizards like Dream Weaver are nice and handy, but in the long run all you are really doing is borrowing someone elses automated code without any origionality or personalization. When it comes to BGT the same principle applys. A script wizard is nothing more than a bunch of automated code that might help speed up development, but you aren't actually learning how to do it yourself. You are depending on that wizard to do the majority of the work for you. If a person really wants automated code the best thing might be to write up some commonly used code and store it in a text file for later use. If they want to use it simply copy it into their new game, modify it, and are on their way. I do this myself a lot of the time, but I wrote all of my own templates so they are customized for my own personal use from the start rather than having some automatic wizard just generate some totally generic piece of code that may or may not do what I want it to do. Smile. On 12/29/10, Mauricio Almeida wrote: > i am personally against the scripting manager idea, simply because this > way you will never learn to program. > it is like people that say, oh yes, i can web design really really > really well, i only need dreamweaver... > they are always dependent on an automatic interface. > why? because they never went through learning the hard, and really > artistic part of things. > > Mauricio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play
i am personally against the scripting manager idea, simply because this way you will never learn to program. it is like people that say, oh yes, i can web design really really really well, i only need dreamweaver... they are always dependent on an automatic interface. why? because they never went through learning the hard, and really artistic part of things. Mauricio -Mensagem original- De: Josh Kennedy Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: Quarta, 29 de Dezembro de 2010 16:54 Assunto: [Audyssey] games I'd like to play Hi Personally over the years, with playing games here's what I'd like to see come out of bgt. 1. an excellent star trek voyager/ds9/tng first person shooter game. 2. an enhanced american nfl football game, one with commentary and more plays kind of like that football game that ran in DOS. any night football I think it was. 3. a really good baseball game with commentary. 4. star wars games. 5. more fantasy games kind of like entombed. a real harry potter game with sounds and music from the playstation games. also other fantasy games like lord of the rings or final fantacy remakes or something like sound-rts but with cool music, sounds, and stuff. I bought the bgt lite a while ago. Haven't had the chance to play with it really yet due to going back to college for an information technology degree. What really gets me is the math. I hope eventually bgt has some pre-defined math formulas with good commentary that explains what they do so I could open a script and play with and modify it until I get the hang of it and can make what I want. I kind of imagine a room with things in it like this but I could be wrong. Say I have a 25 by 25 grid. x can go from -25 to +25 and y from -25 to +25. so this means I could have an object say something laying on the ground at position x4 and y -3. another at x-5 and y +6. and so on. maybe this makes no sense. But when I took high school algebra in order to make graphs I had a board with a bunch of pegs on it. So to put something at x+3 and y-5 I'd go over 3 spaces to the right of x0 y0 and down 5 spaces from the 0 y axis. So is that kind of how positioning objects in games works? except there is no physical graph paper or board you just have to imagine the board in your head and define the grid using the bgt code? Maybe the math isn't the problem here. maybe what is needed in bgt to make it more useable is a file containing formulas. Also I don't think that people are meaning to make bgt simple like audio game maker that would be counter-productive. But why not make bgt kind of like the jaws scripting manager. In the jaws script manager if you forget a command you can bring up a list view of all possible commands and hit enter to insert that one into your script. So why not a bgt script manager. but it would be a notepad-like editor and you could easily pull up lists of commands and even type to filter down to just what you are looking for. Also the bgt script manager could let you open save and debug your bgt code. need math formulas? pull up a quick list of common formulas and hit enter to insert the basic code into the bgt script or game. Ok lets say you want to create thomas's room. in the bgt script editor you could open the basic template for a room paste it into your existing game then just change its parameters to your heart's content. Also the jaws script manager has lists of functions. how about if bgt script editor can quickly let you make timers and stuff, at least the basics then you can use the editor to modify them to your own parameters. think of it as a scripting assistant. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games I'd like to play
Hi Personally over the years, with playing games here's what I'd like to see come out of bgt. 1. an excellent star trek voyager/ds9/tng first person shooter game. 2. an enhanced american nfl football game, one with commentary and more plays kind of like that football game that ran in DOS. any night football I think it was. 3. a really good baseball game with commentary. 4. star wars games. 5. more fantasy games kind of like entombed. a real harry potter game with sounds and music from the playstation games. also other fantasy games like lord of the rings or final fantacy remakes or something like sound-rts but with cool music, sounds, and stuff. I bought the bgt lite a while ago. Haven't had the chance to play with it really yet due to going back to college for an information technology degree. What really gets me is the math. I hope eventually bgt has some pre-defined math formulas with good commentary that explains what they do so I could open a script and play with and modify it until I get the hang of it and can make what I want. I kind of imagine a room with things in it like this but I could be wrong. Say I have a 25 by 25 grid. x can go from -25 to +25 and y from -25 to +25. so this means I could have an object say something laying on the ground at position x4 and y -3. another at x-5 and y +6. and so on. maybe this makes no sense. But when I took high school algebra in order to make graphs I had a board with a bunch of pegs on it. So to put something at x+3 and y-5 I'd go over 3 spaces to the right of x0 y0 and down 5 spaces from the 0 y axis. So is that kind of how positioning objects in games works? except there is no physical graph paper or board you just have to imagine the board in your head and define the grid using the bgt code? Maybe the math isn't the problem here. maybe what is needed in bgt to make it more useable is a file containing formulas. Also I don't think that people are meaning to make bgt simple like audio game maker that would be counter-productive. But why not make bgt kind of like the jaws scripting manager. In the jaws script manager if you forget a command you can bring up a list view of all possible commands and hit enter to insert that one into your script. So why not a bgt script manager. but it would be a notepad-like editor and you could easily pull up lists of commands and even type to filter down to just what you are looking for. Also the bgt script manager could let you open save and debug your bgt code. need math formulas? pull up a quick list of common formulas and hit enter to insert the basic code into the bgt script or game. Ok lets say you want to create thomas's room. in the bgt script editor you could open the basic template for a room paste it into your existing game then just change its parameters to your heart's content. Also the jaws script manager has lists of functions. how about if bgt script editor can quickly let you make timers and stuff, at least the basics then you can use the editor to modify them to your own parameters. think of it as a scripting assistant. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: House of Darkness: nightmares in New York
At 08:25 p.m. 31/10/2010, you wrote: This game is in the style of a side-scrolling shooter and beat em up. Everyone knows of the mansion built in 1884 of what is now New York city. The crew who built the house built it over a cemetary which was demolished to accomidate the space needed by the residence of that area. The house hasn't been lived in for nearly 50 years... and rumors are abundant of hauntings being the main reason. Every halloween since its last mysterious occupants moved out, people have gone to that house to investigate... and have not returned. Finally, a group of detectives from the NYPD decided to venture into the mansion, and solve the mystery of who is behind these mysterious murders. Their head investigator, detective Jason sanada, is a japanese-american who has been in the field for almost 25 years. At the age of 50, he has followed in his culture's tradition of studying martial arts, and is profession in Kendo, karate and aikido. He is also proficient in the use of firearms... and it is his hot-blooded personality and sense of determination as well as a love for others and concern for their safety that has lead him to decide to go ahead with this investigation, as well as scouting out others to accompany him into the house of darkness... You play as Akechi, and are placed in a mansion full of ancient horrors such as undead zombies, vampires, martial artists of old, and other unspeakable horrors and mutated creatures. Also, you must navigate your way past empty graves with spiked bottoms, be wary of rotten floors, and many other unknown dangers. You will go through eight action-packed levls of action with fists, feet, guns, knives and other such utilities. There will also be puzzle-solving elements... keys to drag, levers to pull, switches to push in order to open doors, discover secret rooms and reveal hidden staircases leading to alternate areas. You start off with a 9 mm pistol, a katana, and your bare-handed skills as a martial artists. Weapons will be available, as well as ammo for said weapons. There will also be multiplayer components... an online co-op mood for up to 4 people over the internet to go in as the team of detectives, or a deathmatch mode up to 10 players. The deathmatch mode will utilize special maps that are larger than the typical story maps with platforms and strategic locations used for shooting. This game will retail for 60 US dollars, if it ever becomes reality... Happy halloween. Sorry for that, guys, but I thought it'd be fun and that was the best thing I could drag up at midnight and almost half-asleep. lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games we'd like to play: House of Darkness: nightmares in New York
This game is in the style of a side-scrolling shooter and beat em up. Everyone knows of the mansion built in 1884 of what is now New York city. The crew who built the house built it over a cemetary which was demolished to accomidate the space needed by the residence of that area. The house hasn't been lived in for nearly 50 years... and rumors are abundant of hauntings being the main reason. Every halloween since its last mysterious occupants moved out, people have gone to that house to investigate... and have not returned. Finally, a group of detectives from the NYPD decided to venture into the mansion, and solve the mystery of who is behind these mysterious murders. Their head investigator, detective Jason sanada, is a japanese-american who has been in the field for almost 25 years. At the age of 50, he has followed in his culture's tradition of studying martial arts, and is profession in Kendo, karate and aikido. He is also proficient in the use of firearms... and it is his hot-blooded personality and sense of determination as well as a love for others and concern for their safety that has lead him to decide to go ahead with this investigation, as well as scouting out others to accompany him into the house of darkness... You play as Akechi, and are placed in a mansion full of ancient horrors such as undead zombies, vampires, martial artists of old, and other unspeakable horrors and mutated creatures. Also, you must navigate your way past empty graves with spiked bottoms, be wary of rotten floors, and many other unknown dangers. You will go through eight action-packed levls of action with fists, feet, guns, knives and other such utilities. There will also be puzzle-solving elements... keys to drag, levers to pull, switches to push in order to open doors, discover secret rooms and reveal hidden staircases leading to alternate areas. You start off with a 9 mm pistol, a katana, and your bare-handed skills as a martial artists. Weapons will be available, as well as ammo for said weapons. There will also be multiplayer components... an online co-op mood for up to 4 people over the internet to go in as the team of detectives, or a deathmatch mode up to 10 players. The deathmatch mode will utilize special maps that are larger than the typical story maps with platforms and strategic locations used for shooting. This game will retail for 60 US dollars, if it ever becomes reality... Happy halloween. Sorry for that, guys, but I thought it'd be fun and that was the best thing I could drag up at midnight and almost half-asleep. lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: bomber man
sounds awesome! - Original Message - From: "NIcol" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: bomber man Hi all Those of you who had sight and played mainstream games in the past, can you remember a game called bomber man? I cannot exactly remember all the contents of this game but I have good memories of me and my sighted friends playing bomber man when I was younger. I had the joystick in my hand and my friends told me which direction to go. I can remember that in bomber man, the player runs in 4 directions, planting boms and picking up amulets. If memory serves, these amulets were called pies. If memory serves, my sighted friends told me these look like little pies. Grab them for extra health. And then in bomber man you had to avoid bombs from enemies and plant bombs along the way . And we had to be careful not to step into bombs we planted ourselves. I can remember the adrenelin rush when an enemie is close on my tail and my friends yell in excitement: "right! Right! No left! The other way! We had loads of fun with bomber man. Do you guys think an accessible remake of bomber man is possible? Is there any copyright issues involved?\ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: bomber man
Hi Hayden, Just that. Some Linux developer has created a version of Bomber Man for Linux. It is listed in the Ubuntu Software Center, under the free games section, simply as Bomber Man. If I'm not mistaken it was written in c and uses SDL for sound, video, and input. It is not quite like the original, but is close enough. On 10/8/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi Thomas, > If I may ask...what is the Linux cloan of Bomber Man? > > Best Regards, > Hayden > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: bomber man
Hi Thoas, If I may ask...what is the Linux cloan of Bomber Man? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 7:41 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: bomber man Hi Nicol, Yes, I remember the game well. In fact, my wife and I have it right here on our gaming computer we have in the living room. A while back when my wife and I decided to go Linux we took the family computer that was an old Windows XP system from 2003 or 2004 and installed Ubuntu Linux 10 on it. We then installed several Linux game emulaters on it like Dosbox, Stella, SNes 9x, Frotz, and scare which allows us to play all kinds of older games on that one computer. We can play all the Atari classics like Asteroids, Centipede, Packman as well as various Super NES roms like Super Castlevania. Not to mention a number of Linux specific retro remakes like Super Tux, Circus Linux, Pengwuine Command, that are basically remakes of Super Mario, Circus Atari, Missile Command, with a Linux theme. So as a result we have a Bomber Man rom we can play through emulation, plus there is a free clone of Bomber Man for Linux as well. Anyway, while I would certainly think it would be cool to have an accessible Bomber Man clone for the blind it wouldn't be that easy to translate into audio. The way the screen is laid out you have a ggrid in what could be called a top down view. A sighted person can see the entire screen at once and get an idea of what is happening everywhere at once. With an audio only game the audio is related to you, the listener, therefore presenting a first-person perspective rather than an outside observer. If that makes any sense to you. To give you a better idea of what I am talking about let's take Packman. In the video arcade game version you can see it from a top down perspective where you see the entire maze and everything in it as though you were looking down at the entire thing from up above. With Phil's Packman Talks you can only hear sounds in relation to you depending on where you are at in the maze. you can't see all the dots, ghosts, and Packman himself all at once. You only hear the ghosts nearest to you as well as the power pills tunnels etc. Bomber Man would have this same problem. With Bomber Man sometimes you need to be aware of things happening on screen in a different part of the grid than where you are. It would be difficult if not frustrating to convey all this information to someone who can't see it. Especially, if you are only listening to sounds in the immediate area where you, the player character, are located in the grid at any certain place or time. As far as power ups and such I certainly don't remember any pies. I remember collecting bombs, flames, and that sort of thing, but no pies. Are you certain it was pies? HTH --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: bomber man
Hi Nicol, Yes, I remember the game well. In fact, my wife and I have it right here on our gaming computer we have in the living room. A while back when my wife and I decided to go Linux we took the family computer that was an old Windows XP system from 2003 or 2004 and installed Ubuntu Linux 10 on it. We then installed several Linux game emulaters on it like Dosbox, Stella, SNes 9x, Frotz, and scare which allows us to play all kinds of older games on that one computer. We can play all the Atari classics like Asteroids, Centipede, Packman as well as various Super NES roms like Super Castlevania. Not to mention a number of Linux specific retro remakes like Super Tux, Circus Linux, Pengwuine Command, that are basically remakes of Super Mario, Circus Atari, Missile Command, with a Linux theme. So as a result we have a Bomber Man rom we can play through emulation, plus there is a free clone of Bomber Man for Linux as well. Anyway, while I would certainly think it would be cool to have an accessible Bomber Man clone for the blind it wouldn't be that easy to translate into audio. The way the screen is laid out you have a ggrid in what could be called a top down view. A sighted person can see the entire screen at once and get an idea of what is happening everywhere at once. With an audio only game the audio is related to you, the listener, therefore presenting a first-person perspective rather than an outside observer. If that makes any sense to you. To give you a better idea of what I am talking about let's take Packman. In the video arcade game version you can see it from a top down perspective where you see the entire maze and everything in it as though you were looking down at the entire thing from up above. With Phil's Packman Talks you can only hear sounds in relation to you depending on where you are at in the maze. you can't see all the dots, ghosts, and Packman himself all at once. You only hear the ghosts nearest to you as well as the power pills tunnels etc. Bomber Man would have this same problem. With Bomber Man sometimes you need to be aware of things happening on screen in a different part of the grid than where you are. It would be difficult if not frustrating to convey all this information to someone who can't see it. Especially, if you are only listening to sounds in the immediate area where you, the player character, are located in the grid at any certain place or time. As far as power ups and such I certainly don't remember any pies. I remember collecting bombs, flames, and that sort of thing, but no pies. Are you certain it was pies? HTH --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: bomber man
Bomberman is actually one of those games it'd be pretty difficult to replicate in an audio form, or at least I can't think of a way to do it. The playing area is a grid, ie, you can only move in four directions up down, left and right. each bomb you place on the grid explodes in a cross, and can kill you as well as monsters or other players, and blow up bricks. Sinse however you really need the top down view to get these relations, until tactile desplays are invented I'm unsure how this could work in audio. Btw, I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean by pies or amulets. Poers ups included bombs, which could give you extra bombs, flame to increase your bomb's radius, skates which made your character walk faster, a kicking boot and punching glove to chuck your bombs around with and some special one offs, no pies, though there was an icecream come which gave you an extra life. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "NIcol" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 9:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: bomber man Hi all Those of you who had sight and played mainstream games in the past, can you remember a game called bomber man? I cannot exactly remember all the contents of this game but I have good memories of me and my sighted friends playing bomber man when I was younger. I had the joystick in my hand and my friends told me which direction to go. I can remember that in bomber man, the player runs in 4 directions, planting boms and picking up amulets. If memory serves, these amulets were called pies. If memory serves, my sighted friends told me these look like little pies. Grab them for extra health. And then in bomber man you had to avoid bombs from enemies and plant bombs along the way . And we had to be careful not to step into bombs we planted ourselves. I can remember the adrenelin rush when an enemie is close on my tail and my friends yell in excitement: "right! Right! No left! The other way! We had loads of fun with bomber man. Do you guys think an accessible remake of bomber man is possible? Is there any copyright issues involved?\ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games we'd like to play: bomber man
Hi all Those of you who had sight and played mainstream games in the past, can you remember a game called bomber man? I cannot exactly remember all the contents of this game but I have good memories of me and my sighted friends playing bomber man when I was younger. I had the joystick in my hand and my friends told me which direction to go. I can remember that in bomber man, the player runs in 4 directions, planting boms and picking up amulets. If memory serves, these amulets were called pies. If memory serves, my sighted friends told me these look like little pies. Grab them for extra health. And then in bomber man you had to avoid bombs from enemies and plant bombs along the way . And we had to be careful not to step into bombs we planted ourselves. I can remember the adrenelin rush when an enemie is close on my tail and my friends yell in excitement: "right! Right! No left! The other way! We had loads of fun with bomber man. Do you guys think an accessible remake of bomber man is possible? Is there any copyright issues involved?\ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games playable under the linux
Hi Petr, No problem. Glad I could be of some help. As it happens the topic of Linux gaming is a subject I am very personally interested in myself since I primarily use Linux for day to day computer work/play. I don't venture into Windows except when I really have to to write some Windows specific piece of software or to play an accessible game that I like. As a result I've made it my personal quest to find and create accessible games for Linux. As it so happens there are definitely games out there we can play. Unfortunately, many VI gamers would see it as taking a big step backwards because text adventures and muds make up the large majority of accessible games on Linux right now. There are also the odd console game like Hangman that are accessible to if you have the BSD games package installed. However, with APIs like SFML 1.6, which has bindings to OpenGL and OpenAL, it is certainly possible to create games equal to Tank Commander, Shades of Doom, Sarah, and all the other great accessible games for Windows. That's why when I get an opertunity to I have plans to use SFML for my Open G3D engine for Linux. I think Linux has gotten to the point where the game APIs are certainly equal to Windows and a developer could quite easily begin producing high-quality accessible games for Linux using C, C++, or Python. Cheers! On 8/28/10, Petr Bláha wrote: > Hi Thomas, > i was hoping that specially you will answer my question, so thanks very > much for your answers and all the information you gave to me. > And i i am very looking forward to stfc under the linux, cause this > game i play the most often nowadays - smiles. > Tomb hunter will be also very nice if it would be under this OS. > By the way - can you give me any instant messaging contact to you - i > mean skype or ICQ or facebook - maybee we can discull some other topics > about the linux and you can give me some more information important for > me as the linux beginner. Off course only if you are not too busy. > My address is hammet...@seznam.cz, there you can send me some contact > information if you decide to do that. > Bye for now and once again, thanks very much for your help. > > On 28.8.2010 06:26, Thomas Ward wrote: >> Hi Petr, >> Yes, there are some accessible games for Linux. If you are in to text >> adventures there is a free frotz interpretor called, frotz, that will >> allow you to play a number of ZCode games like the old Infocom games >> under Linux. There is also an accessible Adrift Runner called Scare >> that will allow you to play a number of Adrift text adventures as >> well. If you are into muds there is an accessible mud client, >> gnome-mud, that will allow you to play all the usual muds everyone >> talks about on the list. >> If you are looking for something more serious try FreeCiv. I've found >> it mostly accessible and works fairly well with Orca so far. FreeCiv >> is basically an accessible free clone of the old game Civilization. >> SoundRTS can be played on Linux too, but configuring it is a pain >> because it requires a number of older Python and PyGame packages that >> conflicts with the native Python packages that ship with Ubuntu, >> Vinux, and Debian, etc these days. So SoundRTS is problematic. >> In addition I am also working on Linux ports of STFC, MOTA, etc but >> those are far behind the Windows releases as these ports are primarily >> created for myself, but sooner or later once the Linux ports catch up >> with the >> Windows releases I'll be adding them to my products page as well. I've >> also got a number of text games I wrote a few years ago such as >> Blackjack, Yatzi, Uno, etc that were created for Linux and I >> eventually want to upgrade them and put them up for download as well. >> So Linux gaming is not only possible I have plans to add to what is >> out there fore Linux personally. >> As for using Wine to play Windows games forget it. It doesn't have all >> the dependencies you need and you pretty much have to install and >> register several dlls to get something like one of GMA's games to >> play. Even then the games are not stable, will crash, or run >> sluggishly. I did it one time with Shades of Doom, and setting Wine up >> to do it was a frickin' nightmare, and the end result sucked. So I >> don't consider Wine an option for a Linux gamer. >> >> Cheers! >> >> On 8/27/10, Petr Bláha wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> i would like to ask you, if there are any accessible games, which are >>> playable under the linux operation system. >>> I use linux more and more, so entertainment is one part of my computer >>> using, which i would like to try in linux as well. >>> I have got an idea that games which are equipped by self voicing could be >>> played under the wine - windows emulation programm, but i don >>> t know if this is possible. And what about the other ones which are not >>> self >>> voiced? >>> Thanks for your answers. >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the lis
Re: [Audyssey] games playable under the linux
Hi Thomas, i was hoping that specially you will answer my question, so thanks very much for your answers and all the information you gave to me. And i i am very looking forward to stfc under the linux, cause this game i play the most often nowadays - smiles. Tomb hunter will be also very nice if it would be under this OS. By the way - can you give me any instant messaging contact to you - i mean skype or ICQ or facebook - maybee we can discull some other topics about the linux and you can give me some more information important for me as the linux beginner. Off course only if you are not too busy. My address is hammet...@seznam.cz, there you can send me some contact information if you decide to do that. Bye for now and once again, thanks very much for your help. On 28.8.2010 06:26, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Petr, Yes, there are some accessible games for Linux. If you are in to text adventures there is a free frotz interpretor called, frotz, that will allow you to play a number of ZCode games like the old Infocom games under Linux. There is also an accessible Adrift Runner called Scare that will allow you to play a number of Adrift text adventures as well. If you are into muds there is an accessible mud client, gnome-mud, that will allow you to play all the usual muds everyone talks about on the list. If you are looking for something more serious try FreeCiv. I've found it mostly accessible and works fairly well with Orca so far. FreeCiv is basically an accessible free clone of the old game Civilization. SoundRTS can be played on Linux too, but configuring it is a pain because it requires a number of older Python and PyGame packages that conflicts with the native Python packages that ship with Ubuntu, Vinux, and Debian, etc these days. So SoundRTS is problematic. In addition I am also working on Linux ports of STFC, MOTA, etc but those are far behind the Windows releases as these ports are primarily created for myself, but sooner or later once the Linux ports catch up with the Windows releases I'll be adding them to my products page as well. I've also got a number of text games I wrote a few years ago such as Blackjack, Yatzi, Uno, etc that were created for Linux and I eventually want to upgrade them and put them up for download as well. So Linux gaming is not only possible I have plans to add to what is out there fore Linux personally. As for using Wine to play Windows games forget it. It doesn't have all the dependencies you need and you pretty much have to install and register several dlls to get something like one of GMA's games to play. Even then the games are not stable, will crash, or run sluggishly. I did it one time with Shades of Doom, and setting Wine up to do it was a frickin' nightmare, and the end result sucked. So I don't consider Wine an option for a Linux gamer. Cheers! On 8/27/10, Petr Bláha wrote: Hi all, i would like to ask you, if there are any accessible games, which are playable under the linux operation system. I use linux more and more, so entertainment is one part of my computer using, which i would like to try in linux as well. I have got an idea that games which are equipped by self voicing could be played under the wine - windows emulation programm, but i don t know if this is possible. And what about the other ones which are not self voiced? Thanks for your answers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games playable under the linux
Hi Petr, Yes, there are some accessible games for Linux. If you are in to text adventures there is a free frotz interpretor called, frotz, that will allow you to play a number of ZCode games like the old Infocom games under Linux. There is also an accessible Adrift Runner called Scare that will allow you to play a number of Adrift text adventures as well. If you are into muds there is an accessible mud client, gnome-mud, that will allow you to play all the usual muds everyone talks about on the list. If you are looking for something more serious try FreeCiv. I've found it mostly accessible and works fairly well with Orca so far. FreeCiv is basically an accessible free clone of the old game Civilization. SoundRTS can be played on Linux too, but configuring it is a pain because it requires a number of older Python and PyGame packages that conflicts with the native Python packages that ship with Ubuntu, Vinux, and Debian, etc these days. So SoundRTS is problematic. In addition I am also working on Linux ports of STFC, MOTA, etc but those are far behind the Windows releases as these ports are primarily created for myself, but sooner or later once the Linux ports catch up with the Windows releases I'll be adding them to my products page as well. I've also got a number of text games I wrote a few years ago such as Blackjack, Yatzi, Uno, etc that were created for Linux and I eventually want to upgrade them and put them up for download as well. So Linux gaming is not only possible I have plans to add to what is out there fore Linux personally. As for using Wine to play Windows games forget it. It doesn't have all the dependencies you need and you pretty much have to install and register several dlls to get something like one of GMA's games to play. Even then the games are not stable, will crash, or run sluggishly. I did it one time with Shades of Doom, and setting Wine up to do it was a frickin' nightmare, and the end result sucked. So I don't consider Wine an option for a Linux gamer. Cheers! On 8/27/10, Petr Bláha wrote: > Hi all, > i would like to ask you, if there are any accessible games, which are > playable under the linux operation system. > I use linux more and more, so entertainment is one part of my computer > using, which i would like to try in linux as well. > I have got an idea that games which are equipped by self voicing could be > played under the wine - windows emulation programm, but i don > t know if this is possible. And what about the other ones which are not self > voiced? > Thanks for your answers. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games playable under the linux
Hi all, i would like to ask you, if there are any accessible games, which are playable under the linux operation system. I use linux more and more, so entertainment is one part of my computer using, which i would like to try in linux as well. I have got an idea that games which are equipped by self voicing could be played under the wine - windows emulation programm, but i don t know if this is possible. And what about the other ones which are not self voiced? Thanks for your answers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
I suppose that could be arranged... :P - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit And if you don't receive it, will there be a, uh! oh!, law suit? (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hi Peter, Lol! I've already filed that suit...I expect the game tonight. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of clement chou Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hey I'm in! Can I beta test for free? Or is there a half-price fee for beta testing too? - Original Message - From: "peter Mahach" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit ..On the edge of creminalizm, ..on the edge of high priced screen readers, ..on the edge of fat people who never want to eat stuff other than fast food. ..on the edge of nothing, you! the random person who picked up the most incredible thing from the cops. The law suit! Your job, drive your modified mustang shellby around the streets, pursue bad guys and so on. When you got them out of their car, use your law suit's built-in features to catch them! the lawsuit is capable from eyes-free operation via audio crosshair, a b built-in handcuff dispenser as well as a mp3 player, a built-in m16 rifle, a phone, a free copy of the echo from the apple 2 adding about 500kg to the weight and much, much more! Advance through progressively more difficult levels until you find your self above earth, on-board the freedom science fiction space station for the ultimate ending... The game will be offered via download exclusively to users of premium account file sharing services and will require 10 times the cost of the highest plan available. The game will communicate with window-eyes, system access, nvda, and S.A.P.I, the scientific application programming introduction, complete with W.T.L.S, with the least success! If you'd like to obtain the game, please file a lawsuit against downlo...@pkbgames.com - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.weisi4u.de/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) _
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
And if you don't receive it, will there be a, uh! oh!, law suit? (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hi Peter, Lol! I've already filed that suit...I expect the game tonight. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of clement chou Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hey I'm in! Can I beta test for free? Or is there a half-price fee for beta testing too? - Original Message - From: "peter Mahach" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit ..On the edge of creminalizm, ..on the edge of high priced screen readers, ..on the edge of fat people who never want to eat stuff other than fast food. ..on the edge of nothing, you! the random person who picked up the most incredible thing from the cops. The law suit! Your job, drive your modified mustang shellby around the streets, pursue bad guys and so on. When you got them out of their car, use your law suit's built-in features to catch them! the lawsuit is capable from eyes-free operation via audio crosshair, a b built-in handcuff dispenser as well as a mp3 player, a built-in m16 rifle, a phone, a free copy of the echo from the apple 2 adding about 500kg to the weight and much, much more! Advance through progressively more difficult levels until you find your self above earth, on-board the freedom science fiction space station for the ultimate ending... The game will be offered via download exclusively to users of premium account file sharing services and will require 10 times the cost of the highest plan available. The game will communicate with window-eyes, system access, nvda, and S.A.P.I, the scientific application programming introduction, complete with W.T.L.S, with the least success! If you'd like to obtain the game, please file a lawsuit against downlo...@pkbgames.com - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.weisi4u.de/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
Hi Peter, Lol! I've already filed that suit...I expect the game tonight. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of clement chou Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hey I'm in! Can I beta test for free? Or is there a half-price fee for beta testing too? - Original Message - From: "peter Mahach" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit > ..On the edge of creminalizm, > ..on the edge of high priced screen readers, > ..on the edge of fat people who never want to eat stuff other than fast > food. > ..on the edge of nothing, you! the random person who picked up the most > incredible thing from the cops. > The law suit! > Your job, drive your modified mustang shellby around the streets, pursue > bad guys and so on. When you got them out of their car, use your law > suit's built-in features to catch them! > the lawsuit is capable from eyes-free operation via audio crosshair, a b > built-in handcuff dispenser as well as a mp3 player, a built-in m16 rifle, > a phone, a free copy of the echo from the apple 2 adding about 500kg to > the weight and much, much more! > Advance through progressively more difficult levels until you find your > self above earth, on-board the freedom science fiction space station for > the ultimate ending... > The game will be offered via download exclusively to users of premium > account file sharing services and will require 10 times the cost of the > highest plan available. > The game will communicate with window-eyes, system access, nvda, and > S.A.P.I, the scientific application programming introduction, complete > with W.T.L.S, with the least success! > If you'd like to obtain the game, please file a lawsuit against > downlo...@pkbgames.com > > > > > - > Peter Mahach > |piterm...@gmail.com > msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com > skype (not very often): pitermach > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach > webpage: http://pmsworld.weisi4u.de/ > > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 5266 (20100709) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
Good call clement rocking out is as good as anything. Could you give me info to some good pc games (apart from ag's) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
Aren't politicians any of the targets?? If not, I won't be filing my law suit. By the way, do lawyers wear law suits? --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: "peter Mahach" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:00 PM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit ..On the edge of creminalizm, ..on the edge of high priced screen readers, ..on the edge of fat people who never want to eat stuff other than fast food. ..on the edge of nothing, you! the random person who picked up the most incredible thing from the cops. The law suit! Your job, drive your modified mustang shellby around the streets, pursue bad guys and so on. When you got them out of their car, use your law suit's built-in features to catch them! the lawsuit is capable from eyes-free operation via audio crosshair, a b built-in handcuff dispenser as well as a mp3 player, a built-in m16 rifle, a phone, a free copy of the echo from the apple 2 adding about 500kg to the weight and much, much more! Advance through progressively more difficult levels until you find your self above earth, on-board the freedom science fiction space station for the ultimate ending... The game will be offered via download exclusively to users of premium account file sharing services and will require 10 times the cost of the highest plan available. The game will communicate with window-eyes, system access, nvda, and S.A.P.I, the scientific application programming introduction, complete with W.T.L.S, with the least success! If you'd like to obtain the game, please file a lawsuit against downlo...@pkbgames.com - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.weisi4u.de/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
well I must say I tried to beta test hal once but they were full still hope to do that, not keen on fs though. not to test. At 09:13 a.m. 10/08/2010, you wrote: Hi, If you want to beta test ls, you need to pay a small entry fee of just $1100.99, as well as not be playing any other auditory or otherwise, game. Lol, seriusly though, if you want to betatest for fs you can't tell anyone anything, as well as not be using any other sr or magnifier than jaws or magic, but that's off-topic. - Original Message - From: "clement chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hey I'm in! Can I beta test for free? Or is there a half-price fee for beta testing too? __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
What!? I'd never pay out that much even supposing I had it! - Original Message - From: "peter Mahach" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hi, If you want to beta test ls, you need to pay a small entry fee of just $1100.99, as well as not be playing any other auditory or otherwise, game. Lol, seriusly though, if you want to betatest for fs you can't tell anyone anything, as well as not be using any other sr or magnifier than jaws or magic, but that's off-topic. - Original Message - From: "clement chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hey I'm in! Can I beta test for free? Or is there a half-price fee for beta testing too? __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
Lol! I think I'l pass.. I'l spend half the money on Window-eyes and buy myself a new guitar, thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
Hi, If you want to beta test ls, you need to pay a small entry fee of just $1100.99, as well as not be playing any other auditory or otherwise, game. Lol, seriusly though, if you want to betatest for fs you can't tell anyone anything, as well as not be using any other sr or magnifier than jaws or magic, but that's off-topic. - Original Message - From: "clement chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit Hey I'm in! Can I beta test for free? Or is there a half-price fee for beta testing too? __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
Hey I'm in! Can I beta test for free? Or is there a half-price fee for beta testing too? - Original Message - From: "peter Mahach" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit ..On the edge of creminalizm, ..on the edge of high priced screen readers, ..on the edge of fat people who never want to eat stuff other than fast food. ..on the edge of nothing, you! the random person who picked up the most incredible thing from the cops. The law suit! Your job, drive your modified mustang shellby around the streets, pursue bad guys and so on. When you got them out of their car, use your law suit's built-in features to catch them! the lawsuit is capable from eyes-free operation via audio crosshair, a b built-in handcuff dispenser as well as a mp3 player, a built-in m16 rifle, a phone, a free copy of the echo from the apple 2 adding about 500kg to the weight and much, much more! Advance through progressively more difficult levels until you find your self above earth, on-board the freedom science fiction space station for the ultimate ending... The game will be offered via download exclusively to users of premium account file sharing services and will require 10 times the cost of the highest plan available. The game will communicate with window-eyes, system access, nvda, and S.A.P.I, the scientific application programming introduction, complete with W.T.L.S, with the least success! If you'd like to obtain the game, please file a lawsuit against downlo...@pkbgames.com - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.weisi4u.de/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games we'd like to play: Law suit
..On the edge of creminalizm, ..on the edge of high priced screen readers, ..on the edge of fat people who never want to eat stuff other than fast food. ..on the edge of nothing, you! the random person who picked up the most incredible thing from the cops. The law suit! Your job, drive your modified mustang shellby around the streets, pursue bad guys and so on. When you got them out of their car, use your law suit's built-in features to catch them! the lawsuit is capable from eyes-free operation via audio crosshair, a b built-in handcuff dispenser as well as a mp3 player, a built-in m16 rifle, a phone, a free copy of the echo from the apple 2 adding about 500kg to the weight and much, much more! Advance through progressively more difficult levels until you find your self above earth, on-board the freedom science fiction space station for the ultimate ending... The game will be offered via download exclusively to users of premium account file sharing services and will require 10 times the cost of the highest plan available. The game will communicate with window-eyes, system access, nvda, and S.A.P.I, the scientific application programming introduction, complete with W.T.L.S, with the least success! If you'd like to obtain the game, please file a lawsuit against downlo...@pkbgames.com - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.weisi4u.de/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit
Hi Ben, Lol. I must say his Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series was a laugh if you're into that sort of thing. If not it would make absolutely no sense to you. None whatsoever. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:02 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit Its good that one of (I say one of) the greatest authors of all time is making an appearance -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 18 July 2010 05:17 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit Hi Scott, Lol...for the love of Bob? Hale ye, Douglas Adams! Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:26 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit Though I'm not a moderator, I do feel it's necessary to point out that so far this conversation has spanned about 15 more threads than it needs too. For the love of Bob, please can we only change subject lines when the subject really has changed. Cheers all Scott On 7/14/10, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Hi > well then unless Jim updates his games, I guess the only way to play them in > future versions of windows will be to use vmware and virtualise windows xp. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Games for mobile
hi all: if you please, I need games for my nokia device, am using talks not window eyes. Thanks in advance. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love, play on... Tel: 0020102221750 Personal email, msn and yahoo messengers: flutelo...@link.net skype: roma30 facebook: www.facebook.com/moustafa.ramy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games not working
Hi Thomas, Thank you very much for letting me know that many of the sapi5 voices do work with my games in Windows 7 and that it only seems to be a problem with the ScanSoft voices and that might even just be on your computer. It is good to hear that the sapi5 voices do still work ok. BTW A gentleman told me that he does not like Microsoft Anna and that it was ruining his gaming experience. He thus went out and bought a couple of the Cepstal voices and said that they only cost 30 dollars each. Guess that's not too bad for getting better voices than Anna. BFN Jim It's not hard to meet expenses; they're everywhere. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit
Its good that one of (I say one of) the greatest authors of all time is making an appearance -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 18 July 2010 05:17 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit Hi Scott, Lol...for the love of Bob? Hale ye, Douglas Adams! Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:26 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit Though I'm not a moderator, I do feel it's necessary to point out that so far this conversation has spanned about 15 more threads than it needs too. For the love of Bob, please can we only change subject lines when the subject really has changed. Cheers all Scott On 7/14/10, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Hi > well then unless Jim updates his games, I guess the only way to play them in > future versions of windows will be to use vmware and virtualise windows xp. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit
Hi Scott, Lol...for the love of Bob? Hale ye, Douglas Adams! Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:26 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit Though I'm not a moderator, I do feel it's necessary to point out that so far this conversation has spanned about 15 more threads than it needs too. For the love of Bob, please can we only change subject lines when the subject really has changed. Cheers all Scott On 7/14/10, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Hi > well then unless Jim updates his games, I guess the only way to play them in > future versions of windows will be to use vmware and virtualise windows xp. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question
Hi Thomas, Considewring what you've had to go through in the last couple of years, I'd say Thomas's revenge would be a good one. Think of it: "Breaking news! Thomas ward, infuriated at the infinite requests for Mysteries of the Ancients that came in yesterday, has now gone berserk, and is out to obliterate the entire blind community. It is your job to see that this monster is put to rest once and for all, by first tracking him to his new super secret lare, defeating him in a sword duel (the one reserved for Athena) then completing the sourceCode for MOTA." The hardest part would be completing your sourcecode, considering I barely know an ounce of C ++, I can about imagein what that would turn out to be. smile Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question Hi Hayden, I don't know either. I thought Thomas's Revenge was pretty good. Sounds kind of like the mood I've been in lately. Lol! Cheers! On 7/17/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi, > I'm still trying to figure out which one was my favorite. Jerassic Egghunt? > Sarah's slippery slide? Q 10? Thomas's revenge? (I think that may be the > one). lol > > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question
Hi Phil, Hmmm...reminds me of the great toy robbery. Is there anything you do with these dinosaur eggs? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question Hi Phil,., Darn. I was hoping to get eaten by a momma Tyrannosaurus Rex. I don't want to get stomped. Grin. On 7/17/10, Phil Vlasak wrote: > Hi Hayden, > Come on, Jurassic Egg hunt is the best! > Just think, you go around picking up dinosaur eggs, while the Momma > Tyrannosaurus rex hunts you down. > In this game you don't just get hen pecked, you get royally stomped! > > smiles, > just joking, > Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question
Hi Phil,., Darn. I was hoping to get eaten by a momma Tyrannosaurus Rex. I don’t want to get stomped. Grin. On 7/17/10, Phil Vlasak wrote: > Hi Hayden, > Come on, Jurassic Egg hunt is the best! > Just think, you go around picking up dinosaur eggs, while the Momma > Tyrannosaurus rex hunts you down. > In this game you don't just get hen pecked, you get royally stomped! > > smiles, > just joking, > Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question
Hi Hayden, I don’t know either. I thought Thomas’s Revenge was pretty good. Sounds kind of like the mood I’ve been in lately. Lol! Cheers! On 7/17/10, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi, > I'm still trying to figure out which one was my favorite. Jerassic Egghunt? > Sarah's slippery slide? Q 10? Thomas's revenge? (I think that may be the > one). lol > > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question
Hi Hayden, Come on, Jurassic Egg hunt is the best! Just think, you go around picking up dinosaur eggs, while the Momma Tyrannosaurus rex hunts you down. In this game you don't just get hen pecked, you get royally stomped! smiles, just joking, Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question
Hi, I'm still trying to figure out which one was my favorite. Jerassic Egghunt? Sarah's slippery slide? Q 10? Thomas's revenge? (I think that may be the one). lol Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:19 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question Good jokes! That's actually feasible as well! Just a quick question, how did you do the radio effects in gtc? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: 17 July 2010 02:48 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Games released the past week Hi Michael, Before palace punch up was, Q, 10, the sequel and, Jurassic Park egg hunt. Then Sarah's slippery slide. Before that was, Thomas's Revenge. Then there was, Shades of Doom, the Multy Player on-line version. But due to legal restrictions, all those games were pulled, and now cannot be downloaded, pending law suits. This teaches you not to go anywhere! smiles, Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week and a question
Good jokes! That's actually feasible as well! Just a quick question, how did you do the radio effects in gtc? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: 17 July 2010 02:48 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Games released the past week Hi Michael, Before palace punch up was, Q, 10, the sequel and, Jurassic Park egg hunt. Then Sarah's slippery slide. Before that was, Thomas's Revenge. Then there was, Shades of Doom, the Multy Player on-line version. But due to legal restrictions, all those games were pulled, and now cannot be downloaded, pending law suits. This teaches you not to go anywhere! smiles, Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games not working
Hi Jim, No, I just used the standard yes/no prompt until Crystal came up and asked me if I wanted to use that voice. It crashes only when it tries to use Scansoft Tom, Daniel, Karen, or some of the other Real Speak Solo voices that comes with Openbook 8 or Jaws 9. As I said those voices were true Sapi voices and should work, but aren't working for some reason. However, back when I was still using Vista I didn't have this issue. I'm suspecting the trouble isn't with your games but the Real Speak Solo voices themselves. They work alright with Window-Eyes and Text Aloud but not some of the games. I just tried them with Time of Conflict and got the same problem. I'm not sure if it is my install or some weird compatibility issue with those voices and Sapi 5.4. However, I thought you might like to know what voices I have tried and know work for certain with Windows 7 and your games. AT&T Crystal AT&T Mike AT&T Lorn Cepstral Callie Microsoft Anna These are currently the voices I have installed and I have tested with your games. I would assume since Cepstral Callie for Windows works that any of the Cepstral voices that also use the Swift 5.0 engine from Cepstral would equally work well with your games. Same goes for the AT&T voices that all use the same engine as Crystal and Mike. If Crystal and Mike work it goes without saying all the other voices should work too as they all use the same engine. I recently have purchased a couple of the Cereproc voices, but haven't tested them with your games yet. However, according to Cereproc they are suppose to be Windows 7 compatible so I would assume they are. If you need me to I have Cereproc Sarah and William to try with your games. HTH On 7/16/10, Jim Kitchen wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Oh, it is sapi 5.4 with Windows 7. Didn't know that. Thanks. > > That is cool that you have gotten my games set to use AT&T Crystal. May I > ask, did you do that by setting Crystal as your computer's default voice? > > And thanks for letting me know that the AT&T voices do work in Windows 7. > > TGIF and BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games released the past week
Hi Phil, Lol, now how did I miss those games... grin Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Games released the past week Hi Michael, Before palace punch up was, Q, 10, the sequel and, Jurassic Park egg hunt. Then Sarah's slippery slide. Before that was, Thomas's Revenge. Then there was, Shades of Doom, the Multy Player on-line version. But due to legal restrictions, all those games were pulled, and now cannot be downloaded, pending law suits. This teaches you not to go anywhere! smiles, Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Games released the past week
Hi Michael, Before palace punch up was, Q, 10, the sequel and, Jurassic Park egg hunt. Then Sarah's slippery slide. Before that was, Thomas's Revenge. Then there was, Shades of Doom, the Multy Player on-line version. But due to legal restrictions, all those games were pulled, and now cannot be downloaded, pending law suits. This teaches you not to go anywhere! smiles, Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games not working
Hi Thomas, Oh, it is sapi 5.4 with Windows 7. Didn't know that. Thanks. That is cool that you have gotten my games set to use AT&T Crystal. May I ask, did you do that by setting Crystal as your computer's default voice? And thanks for letting me know that the AT&T voices do work in Windows 7. TGIF and BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Actually, Windows 7 comes with Sapi 5.4. Sapi 5.4 is technically backward compatible with Sapi 5.1 as it is basically just a newer version of the Sapi 5 library. Anna, though, was specifically compiled using Sapi 5.3 or later so won't run on XP. As for the AT&T voices those work fine on Windows 7. In fact, I just got your games setup using AT&T Crystal. So I can say for certain those work. the only problem is the Scansoft voices. As for the Scansoft voices those are not locked to Window-eyes. these are the Real Speak Solo voices that ship with Openbook 8, and are standard Sapi 5 voices not the Real Speak Direct voices with Jaws 10 and later.I don't have the Real Speak Direct voices, because they don't work with Window-eyes at all. However, setting something like tom as the default voice and seeing if your games work with it should be worth a try. I know the voices work with Win-Eyes and some other apps but crashes your games. So I'll do more testing and let you know. HTH Jim When in doubt, take all the defaults. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games not working
Hi Jim, Actually, Windows 7 comes with Sapi 5.4. Sapi 5.4 is technically backward compatible with Sapi 5.1 as it is basically just a newer version of the Sapi 5 library. Anna, though, was specifically compiled using Sapi 5.3 or later so won't run on XP. As for the AT&T voices those work fine on Windows 7. In fact, I just got your games setup using AT&T Crystal. So I can say for certain those work. the only problem is the Scansoft voices. As for the Scansoft voices those are not locked to Window-eyes. these are the Real Speak Solo voices that ship with Openbook 8, and are standard Sapi 5 voices not the Real Speak Direct voices with Jaws 10 and later.I don't have the Real Speak Direct voices, because they don't work with Window-eyes at all. However, setting something like tom as the default voice and seeing if your games work with it should be worth a try. I know the voices work with Win-Eyes and some other apps but crashes your games. So I'll do more testing and let you know. HTH On 7/14/10, Jim Kitchen wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Yeah, I don't know. I hear that Windows 7 comes with sapi 5.3 Anna and my > games were developed for sapi 5.1. It is good that my games can use at > least sapi 5.3 Anna. There might be a conflict when trying to switch from > sapi 5.3 Anna to a sapi 5.1 voice. I don't know if sapi voices such as the > AT&T voices might or might not work. It could be that sapi scansoft Tom is > locked to Window Eyes like all of the sapi scansoft voices are now locked to > Jaws and or other applications that they come with. Of course this is all > just guess work on my part as I can use all twenty two sapi 5.1 voices on my > Windows XP computers. > > I wonder what would happen if you go into the control panel and change your > computer's default sapi voice. > > BFN > > Jim > > You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me. > > j...@kitchensinc.net > http://www.kitchensinc.net > (440) 286-6920 > Chardon Ohio USA > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games not working
Hi Thomas, Yeah, I don't know. I hear that Windows 7 comes with sapi 5.3 Anna and my games were developed for sapi 5.1. It is good that my games can use at least sapi 5.3 Anna. There might be a conflict when trying to switch from sapi 5.3 Anna to a sapi 5.1 voice. I don't know if sapi voices such as the AT&T voices might or might not work. It could be that sapi scansoft Tom is locked to Window Eyes like all of the sapi scansoft voices are now locked to Jaws and or other applications that they come with. Of course this is all just guess work on my part as I can use all twenty two sapi 5.1 voices on my Windows XP computers. I wonder what would happen if you go into the control panel and change your computer's default sapi voice. BFN Jim You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit
well I just got a report on a tech site I got to that ms is extending the life cycle to 2020 or the end of win7. So those of us that still want xp can stay with xp for a bit longer. It appears that there are still a load that can't be bothered upgrading just yet. At 01:30 a.m. 15/07/2010, you wrote: Hi well then unless Jim updates his games, I guess the only way to play them in future versions of windows will be to use vmware and virtualise windows xp. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games not working
Hi Josh, I really don't know. Although, i should revise my statement somewhat. Jim's games work more less fine on Windows 7, the 32bit versions, but I have had a few issues such as crashing when selecting a different Sapi voice. If I use something like Microsoft Anna no problem. If I try and switch to Scansoft Tom, for example, the games will crash. However, I can use Scansoft Tom with Window-Eyes 7.2 without issue. So there is something slightly buggy with Jim's games andSapi voices under Win 7 in general. Otherwise if I use a voice like Scansoft Anna they don't really give me troubles. Still running XP in something like Vmware is really the only way to really and truly resolve the problem, because Jim designed his games for 95, 98, ME, and XP, and that's it. Anything else is on an "if you can make it work" basis. On 7/14/10, Josh Kennedy wrote: > hi thomas, > since the games work fine on the 32bit version of windows7 I wonder why > they're not working on the 64bit version? I also read on several forums that > microsoft virtual pc is really a very slow bad sluggish virtual machine > software anyway and also on the forums they recommend using vmware to > virtualise if you want to play older games. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit
Hi Josh, It is starting to look that way. At least in your case. I still don't know why it is failing to run under Windows 7 64bit as apparently some users have it working according to Jim's message he sent to the list earlier, and I have various games like NFL, Spanker, Baseball, setup and running under Windows 7. Although, I am having a problem with them locking up now and then. However, I don't have similar issues with say the GMA or PCS games though. On 7/14/10, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Hi > well then unless Jim updates his games, I guess the only way to play them in > future versions of windows will be to use vmware and virtualise windows xp. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games and 64bit
Though I'm not a moderator, I do feel it's necessary to point out that so far this conversation has spanned about 15 more threads than it needs too. For the love of Bob, please can we only change subject lines when the subject really has changed. Cheers all Scott On 7/14/10, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Hi > well then unless Jim updates his games, I guess the only way to play them in > future versions of windows will be to use vmware and virtualise windows xp. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games and 64bit
Hi well then unless Jim updates his games, I guess the only way to play them in future versions of windows will be to use vmware and virtualise windows xp. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games not working
hi thomas, since the games work fine on the 32bit version of windows7 I wonder why they're not working on the 64bit version? I also read on several forums that microsoft virtual pc is really a very slow bad sluggish virtual machine software anyway and also on the forums they recommend using vmware to virtualise if you want to play older games. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games from travis
hi travis. well looked at the docs for your games some look good the battle star one looks quite good. I was never able to finnish that in dos. unfortunately there is a 0 byte file in the zip called com1.c which is corrupt. By mistake i was able to get that to extract to a directory on my system now I can't delete it. it can't find the file, there is nothing in it but hmph. At 10:24 p.m. 7/07/2010, you wrote: The one I'm working on at the moment will have sound in it, though the games I have ported from other operating systems do not have sound, they are located at: http://www.softcon.com/mac/ and you will find some games there, as well as other things that you may or may not find useful. Thanks for those willing to test, it's a bit rough at the moment, and incomplete, but I'm hoping it can be turned into something folks will really want to play. Thanks, and I'll be contacting everyone who offered to test. (at least those with osx machines) I have fixed the ppc problems, so it's not limited to intel based machines anymore. I've also managed to compile it for bsd as well (netbsd anyhow) so if anyone has a netbsd machine, you folks can test it too. :) Hope this helps. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games from travis
The one I'm working on at the moment will have sound in it, though the games I have ported from other operating systems do not have sound, they are located at: http://www.softcon.com/mac/ and you will find some games there, as well as other things that you may or may not find useful. Thanks for those willing to test, it's a bit rough at the moment, and incomplete, but I'm hoping it can be turned into something folks will really want to play. Thanks, and I'll be contacting everyone who offered to test. (at least those with osx machines) I have fixed the ppc problems, so it's not limited to intel based machines anymore. I've also managed to compile it for bsd as well (netbsd anyhow) so if anyone has a netbsd machine, you folks can test it too. :) Hope this helps. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games from travis
hi travis, Just curious for all of us here who are perhaps mac users. Are the games you have created ext or audio-based? Looking forward to help testing on mac if that ok :) WIll --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games for iPhone?
oh did they update the release info last time i heard was just june? On May 8, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Orin wrote: > Hi, > > Papa Sangre will be coming out in about a month apparently. > > http://www.papasangre.com > > > On May 6, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Richard Emling wrote: > >> Hello List. >> >> Is there another game around like Soul Trapper on the iPhone? I just >> finished this nice stuff of interactive audio play and now i am waiting for >> something comparable. Every idea is welcome. >> >> Regards >> >> Richard >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Games for iPhone?
Hi, Papa Sangre will be coming out in about a month apparently. http://www.papasangre.com On May 6, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Richard Emling wrote: > Hello List. > > Is there another game around like Soul Trapper on the iPhone? I just finished > this nice stuff of interactive audio play and now i am waiting for something > comparable. Every idea is welcome. > > Regards > > Richard > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Games for iPhone?
Hello List. Is there another game around like Soul Trapper on the iPhone? I just finished this nice stuff of interactive audio play and now i am waiting for something comparable. Every idea is welcome. Regards Richard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Funnily enough, I never use the numbpad switch at all, I find it quite a pest, I just swap Hal to the function key command set, then turn the keys off whenever I want to play a game. In fact the only game which really needs a numberpad and has no alternative whatsoever is monkey business. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook thats another reason I like toshiba. it seems ot be the only laptop with a numeric pad on a function key. this means almost every key is in reach. this is good for everything ofcause bar gaming, in fact the board is easy to wreck as I found out. so gaming with an external board deffinately. At least with this latest system its got a realtech hd. Said hd seems to have input and output which means I can run mic or stereo mix only which is sucky if I want to review a game or talk over a game with my voice. In fact I have no idea why they went to budjet cards. Ok I semi take that back. before realtech they had soundmax which although crappy did work nicely. before that it was yamaha and all those rocked. they were decent xg and fm cards. Sadly that doesn't happen. The speakers like to crackle I suspected card drivers but at the max driver recomended for the system by toshiba I found it was at least 3 years old. worse still, the new driver made the crackling more pronounced and made the system loopy. I downgraded and then it worked again as it should have. apart from that its quite a nice thing to have this model. At 05:11 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote: Hi, Oh, no big loss. I've been tempted to drop my Compaq on concrete just to smash it on purpose. Lol! Seriously though, I had the thing for only six months wen the dvd drive bit the dust. Then I started having weird problems with the right shift key not working. So lets say Compaq got an ear full when I sent it back to be serviced. I basically told them their notebooks were crap as I've owned two other laptops made by different companies that lasted far longer and without any serious problems, and I have the Comcrap six months and it starts going to heck in a handbag. I'll never recommend their computers to anyone ever again. Smile. On 5/4/10, shaun everiss wrote: well the dropping was a misjudging it dropped on the carpet. its not the worst story I have heard, a friend dropped his on a concrete floor, ok I admit my toshiba got mangled but it was ok. this guy's compaq disintergrated it went into little bits. smsh. I never saw it but I'm glad that was not mine. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
thats another reason I like toshiba. it seems ot be the only laptop with a numeric pad on a function key. this means almost every key is in reach. this is good for everything ofcause bar gaming, in fact the board is easy to wreck as I found out. so gaming with an external board deffinately. At least with this latest system its got a realtech hd. Said hd seems to have input and output which means I can run mic or stereo mix only which is sucky if I want to review a game or talk over a game with my voice. In fact I have no idea why they went to budjet cards. Ok I semi take that back. before realtech they had soundmax which although crappy did work nicely. before that it was yamaha and all those rocked. they were decent xg and fm cards. Sadly that doesn't happen. The speakers like to crackle I suspected card drivers but at the max driver recomended for the system by toshiba I found it was at least 3 years old. worse still, the new driver made the crackling more pronounced and made the system loopy. I downgraded and then it worked again as it should have. apart from that its quite a nice thing to have this model. At 05:11 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote: >Hi, >Oh, no big loss. I've been tempted to drop my Compaq on concrete just >to smash it on purpose. Lol! >Seriously though, I had the thing for only six months wen the dvd >drive bit the dust. Then I started having weird problems with the >right shift key not working. So lets say Compaq got an ear full when >I sent it back to be serviced. I basically told them their notebooks >were crap as I've owned two other laptops made by different companies >that lasted far longer and without any serious problems, and I have >the Comcrap six months and it starts going to heck in a handbag. I'll >never recommend their computers to anyone ever again. > >Smile. > >On 5/4/10, shaun everiss wrote: >> >> well the dropping was a misjudging it dropped on the carpet. >> its not the worst story I have heard, a friend dropped his on a concrete >> floor, ok I admit my toshiba got mangled but it was ok. >> this guy's compaq disintergrated it went into little bits. >> smsh. >> I never saw it but I'm glad that was not mine. > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hi, Oh, no big loss. I've been tempted to drop my Compaq on concrete just to smash it on purpose. Lol! Seriously though, I had the thing for only six months wen the dvd drive bit the dust. Then I started having weird problems with the right shift key not working. So lets say Compaq got an ear full when I sent it back to be serviced. I basically told them their notebooks were crap as I've owned two other laptops made by different companies that lasted far longer and without any serious problems, and I have the Comcrap six months and it starts going to heck in a handbag. I'll never recommend their computers to anyone ever again. Smile. On 5/4/10, shaun everiss wrote: > > well the dropping was a misjudging it dropped on the carpet. > its not the worst story I have heard, a friend dropped his on a concrete > floor, ok I admit my toshiba got mangled but it was ok. > this guy's compaq disintergrated it went into little bits. > smsh. > I never saw it but I'm glad that was not mine. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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oh man. yeah those cups can easilly get knocked I never care for the plastic ones. I have an external board for playing games. never bothered with wireless because of batteries, etc I like wired usb when I use those which when I play games on the box web games are another matter but I suppose I should probably do that to. At 03:36 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote: >As far as the coffee goes, well it wasn't one cup, it was more like half >a cup, and a small cup from the thermos I used to take around school at >that. > >I didn't actually drop it, more sort of knocked it while stationary. Sinse >then I've always made certain to have laptops and coffee in separate places. >Even when i'm on a train, i use the table in the next seat for coffee, >or else hold the coffee in my hand while drinking it and not over my laptop. > >I will say though, that's the one great thing about wireless keyboards. I >frequently now sit around with drinks or food while I'm using my computer, but >only with the keyboard on my lap a long way away from anything else, >besides in my experience pc keyboards are far less senstative than laptop ones. >My wireless keyboard has actually been sat on a couple of times and is none >the worse for ware, something I'd never even risk doing with a laptop ;D. > >Beware the grue! > >Dark. >- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:22 AM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook > > >> >>the nec was a joke I think the fan was broken loads or something. >>the 1850, well it dropped then died after a good life. >>the rest, inexperience mostly, the satelite, got hard labour for its entire >>life and although it had its failiers it was not to bad. >>the other 2 the 310 and 4400 had their uses and forfilled them. >>this current one seems to like mostly unless I do something stupid which I >>have done only about 4 times and in all cases I have managed to salvage it. >>Desktop wise I seem to be having a good run with the latest 2 units we have >>though one is quite old. >> >>what did you do just out a intrest with the cofee how did it happen, i >>imagine you dropping an entire cup and all whilst distracted at least thats >>probably what I'd have happen. >>I don't carry drinks round the unit or eat. >>I am always amased how sighted people can use the mouse with one hand, eat, >>put down the bowl drink, put down the cup, then type without either spilling >>or forgetting where the heck they were. >>I don't know if I'd spill probably would at some point but I know I'd forget >>what I was doing. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
well the dropping was a misjudging it dropped on the carpet. its not the worst story I have heard, a friend dropped his on a concrete floor, ok I admit my toshiba got mangled but it was ok. this guy's compaq disintergrated it went into little bits. smsh. I never saw it but I'm glad that was not mine. Desktop wise the latest 2 are ok, the one I had before that had a good life and is now dead though it was a bad boy requiring reformats. strangely though it was slow xp fixed it, so it didn't care about win98. maybe it wanted another os? This record is broken with the first windows box which came from a bankrupt company. we can see why. things kept failing. Reformats and more reformats. etc. OFcause we had time then even my dad had time. It was rebuilt with bits and bobs. however thats all gone now. I struggled to replace the main dvd drive on the main pc last year because of time to rebuild it. the system needed a major hard drive and dust clearout and I decided to use a dvd module I was not using at the time. it all worked but that was a struggle. we also couldn't leave it down for to long as it was one of the main systems at the time. At 01:01 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote: >Hi Shaun, >Sheesh, man! You are pretty rough on your laptops. Lol! >I've never had that much problem with any computer laptop or desktop >that I can recall. If it is a desktop that has a hardware failior I >tend to replace the parts manually if it is something I can fix. >Laptops I just tend to take care of as best I can so they don't get >destroyed. Only Once haveI actually dropped a laptop and wonder of >wonders it lived to run another day without serious damage. Although, >I don't feel too bad for your NEC. I hate that brand with a passion. > >Cheers! > > >On 5/4/10, shaun everiss wrote: >> well since we are talking about laptops I have had several. >> my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001 >> It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power modules >> and a mains plug. >> I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which >> unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once. >> >> my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds. >> this lasted to about 2001 as a main box. >> running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0. >> this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that needed >> upgrading. >> >> 2002-2004. >> I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw >> deal with a nec versa. >> yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow. >> the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and required >> reformatting every week or so to keep it working. >> I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it and >> the rest bashint it literally in frustration. >> it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before an >> exam. >> G. >> I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well. >> the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box. >> after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9. >> It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive burned >> out. >> as a resolt I can't recover the box. >> the screen is loose and floppy too. >> after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I >> used for what it was worth it was usefull. >> I had it for a year then got rid of it. >> The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get me >> to reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost given up on it >> at times. >> its format process requires sight though and I am happy its gone ok for this >> long even with the abuse its got which is not to much though its keyboard >> was just replaced last month. >> Its probably gona last me till it burns its cpu. >> >> Ofcause not all the laptops are dead. >> >> my 4400 is now an email system for my mums friend or one of them. >> it does what it needs to do. >> my 310 was traded for a couple disks of mp3s and is happily making someone >> happy. >> my a10 satelite if I ever manage to replace the fan, cd drive and screen >> hinges will ride again though with its single core cpu there is probably not >> much point. >> >> my 1850 will work if I ever got the components, though I dropped it again >> while trying to fix it resulting in smoking batteries and broken casings so >> I think thats unlikely. >> My nec is in hell and I hope it stays there. >> disturbingly though it was the cheapest system on one of the us sites I >> think cnet or something. > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >ht
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
As far as the coffee goes, well it wasn't one cup, it was more like half a cup, and a small cup from the thermos I used to take around school at that. I didn't actually drop it, more sort of knocked it while stationary. Sinse then I've always made certain to have laptops and coffee in separate places. Even when i'm on a train, i use the table in the next seat for coffee, or else hold the coffee in my hand while drinking it and not over my laptop. I will say though, that's the one great thing about wireless keyboards. I frequently now sit around with drinks or food while I'm using my computer, but only with the keyboard on my lap a long way away from anything else, besides in my experience pc keyboards are far less senstative than laptop ones. My wireless keyboard has actually been sat on a couple of times and is none the worse for ware, something I'd never even risk doing with a laptop ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook the nec was a joke I think the fan was broken loads or something. the 1850, well it dropped then died after a good life. the rest, inexperience mostly, the satelite, got hard labour for its entire life and although it had its failiers it was not to bad. the other 2 the 310 and 4400 had their uses and forfilled them. this current one seems to like mostly unless I do something stupid which I have done only about 4 times and in all cases I have managed to salvage it. Desktop wise I seem to be having a good run with the latest 2 units we have though one is quite old. what did you do just out a intrest with the cofee how did it happen, i imagine you dropping an entire cup and all whilst distracted at least thats probably what I'd have happen. I don't carry drinks round the unit or eat. I am always amased how sighted people can use the mouse with one hand, eat, put down the bowl drink, put down the cup, then type without either spilling or forgetting where the heck they were. I don't know if I'd spill probably would at some point but I know I'd forget what I was doing. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
well my main reason for the toshiba obsession if you will is 2 fold 1. the fact they don't break, unless they are mangled in some way. ok I admit the first one was dropped. the 3rd one had dead fans a dead headphone jack, a dead lid a dead modem at one stage and a dead dvd drive but thats about it. and it did not happen all at once. most of the issues came at its end life the other came at the beginning. This tecra has had its close calls but bar the keyboard and some stupid things to do with some recording software for a piece of semi broken hardware which I will not use anymore anyway its been ok. Every time it really breaks I almos go as far as calling someone to reformat but I usually fix it and then although bits don't work its like well its ok and I can do without most of this anyway. I like the fact the bios is accessable from the os though. even in the 1850 I could access it in dos as long as I had no 386 managers active. there was a brief period where in win9x time the manuals were not that accessible and before where I had no manual at all. But lately its all pdf which can be converted to text and its all ok. Support is mostly helpfull to and I havn't had any complaints. Now I wish toshiba made a desktop. I'd switch everyone over to that. Another thing I like about toshiba is its bios update, it will load the update disk say, then compair it with the bios currently loaded. In older units say the 1850 you had to boot to dos and run a program. with the newer units say the 310 and up you pushed a couple keys and it updated from a disk. lately you can only get the windows download but that does the same as the old versions. Also they do try to emulate the bios setup as closely to what appears in the os. firstly it was a program in dos then in win95-98 it was all a windows program now its a control panel. so I definately will stay with toshiba. They are also extremely quiet. At 01:07 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote: >Hi, >Yeah, I'm a fan of Toshiba myself. Although, I haven't actually owned >one I know plenty of people who do, have worked on them in the field, >and they are ranked amung my favorite laptops. I think whenever my >Compaq goes my next will likely be a Toshiba. > > >On 5/4/10, dark wrote: >> Actually tom, I can beat that. >> >> My old uni laptop, a toshiba was bought in 2000, and I used it up until >> 2006, and until i got my desktop in 2005, it was pretty much used for >> several hours every day. In fact the only thing that went on it was the fan >> (my dad actually started using it recently just to do basic word processing, >> though he's sinse bought a newer model and my old machine has been consigned >> to the dustbin of history). >> >> the most extreme though is my brother's Toshiba. He had his original machine >> stolen during a burglary in 1997, containing all the work for his A-levels. >> Dolphin physically built him one within 10 days (this was in the days when >> you couldn't install a program like supernova without assistance, so it was >> better done in the shop), and sent it out. >> >> he stopped using it as a main work machine in 2005, and sinse bought a >> smaller netbook as a basic note taker. however, my mum is stil! using that >> machine, complete with it's install of windows 95 as a word processer >> now, and it stil! works! Admittedly, sinse my brother used consoles for >> his gaming, i don't believe it saw quite as much use as mine as it was >> basically used for word processing and net brousing, --- but stil it must be >> a record. >> >> As you might gather, we all like toshiba as a make. >> >> I did once use an acer, but found it ridiculously buggy and prone to >> overheat, even though it was scarcely six months old. >> >> The only issue with toshibas I've noticed is to be careful with the >> batteries, and remember to keep running them down, even when unnecessary. >> >> i bought two new batteries for my toshiba last year, and I try to run them >> down to nothing even when I've got a power point handy. Their stil taking >> full chaarge, which is good. Admittedly that's only about 200 minutes per >> battery, not like the battery life on some more modern machines, but having >> two of them helps a lot. >> >> Beware the grue! >> >> Dark. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyss
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the nec was a joke I think the fan was broken loads or something. the 1850, well it dropped then died after a good life. the rest, inexperience mostly, the satelite, got hard labour for its entire life and although it had its failiers it was not to bad. the other 2 the 310 and 4400 had their uses and forfilled them. this current one seems to like mostly unless I do something stupid which I have done only about 4 times and in all cases I have managed to salvage it. Desktop wise I seem to be having a good run with the latest 2 units we have though one is quite old. what did you do just out a intrest with the cofee how did it happen, i imagine you dropping an entire cup and all whilst distracted at least thats probably what I'd have happen. I don't carry drinks round the unit or eat. I am always amased how sighted people can use the mouse with one hand, eat, put down the bowl drink, put down the cup, then type without either spilling or forgetting where the heck they were. I don't know if I'd spill probably would at some point but I know I'd forget what I was doing. At 01:56 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote: >I managed to drop a laptop at the age of 15, but all that went was the >keyboard which was pretty easily replaced, then At the age of 16, I had my >first and only coffee related laptop incident, which I've been careful never >to repeat. > >Ironically, according to the repair shot I took it to, only 8 k was deleted >and once the innards had been dried it worked fine (I never actually >discovered what had! in fact been deleted). > >Apart from worn out fans, i don't think I've ever had another laptop >destruction, or at least not so far. > >Possibly Sean, your laptops are rebelling at being reformated so much ;D. > >Beware the Grue! > >Dark. >- Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:01 AM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook > > >>Hi Shaun, >>Sheesh, man! You are pretty rough on your laptops. Lol! >>I've never had that much problem with any computer laptop or desktop >>that I can recall. If it is a desktop that has a hardware failior I >>tend to replace the parts manually if it is something I can fix. >>Laptops I just tend to take care of as best I can so they don't get >>destroyed. Only Once haveI actually dropped a laptop and wonder of >>wonders it lived to run another day without serious damage. Although, >>I don't feel too bad for your NEC. I hate that brand with a passion. >> >>Cheers! >> >> >>On 5/4/10, shaun everiss wrote: >>>well since we are talking about laptops I have had several. >>>my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001 >>>It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power modules >>>and a mains plug. >>>I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which >>>unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once. >>> >>>my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds. >>>this lasted to about 2001 as a main box. >>>running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0. >>>this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that needed >>>upgrading. >>> >>>2002-2004. >>>I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw >>>deal with a nec versa. >>>yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow. >>>the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and required >>>reformatting every week or so to keep it working. >>>I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it and >>>the rest bashint it literally in frustration. >>>it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before an >>>exam. >>>G. >>>I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well. >>>the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box. >>>after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9. >>>It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive burned >>>out. >>> as a resolt I can't recover the box. >>>the screen is loose and floppy too. >>>after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I >>>used for what it was worth it was usefull. >>>I had it for a year then got rid of it. >>>The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get me >>>to reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hi Michael, Is it a notebook or a netbook computer. There is a big difference between the two here. Smile. On 5/4/10, michael barnes wrote: > man i love having a notebook or laptop what ever people call it. i > have been using one for over a year and i like that i can take my stuff > with me when i go on trips. like this coming july i'll be going out of > town and i'll be able to play all my games. the other thing is that i > havn't had any problem with my computer. some of the trouble i had > with my notebook is stupid stuff i have done on it. > > -- > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hi, Lol! That's for sure. I have never known anyone who likes to format as much as Shaun does. It is his personal obsession I think. Sometimes I'll do one once a year or so to make sure everything is in maximum working condition but that is backing up from images so generally that is a quick and easy process. Once I install the image I'll run any and all upgrades, make a new image, and go on. However, I think Shaun does it whenever and if ever he can just to do it. Poor computer. If I were it I'd die too from all the abuse. On 5/4/10, dark wrote: > I managed to drop a laptop at the age of 15, but all that went was the > keyboard which was pretty easily replaced, then At the age of 16, I had my > first and only coffee related laptop incident, which I've been careful never > to repeat. > > Ironically, according to the repair shot I took it to, only 8 k was deleted > and once the innards had been dried it worked fine (I never actually > discovered what had! in fact been deleted). > > Apart from worn out fans, i don't think I've ever had another laptop > destruction, or at least not so far. > > Possibly Sean, your laptops are rebelling at being reformated so much ;D. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
man i love having a notebook or laptop what ever people call it. i have been using one for over a year and i like that i can take my stuff with me when i go on trips. like this coming july i'll be going out of town and i'll be able to play all my games. the other thing is that i havn't had any problem with my computer. some of the trouble i had with my notebook is stupid stuff i have done on it. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
I managed to drop a laptop at the age of 15, but all that went was the keyboard which was pretty easily replaced, then At the age of 16, I had my first and only coffee related laptop incident, which I've been careful never to repeat. Ironically, according to the repair shot I took it to, only 8 k was deleted and once the innards had been dried it worked fine (I never actually discovered what had! in fact been deleted). Apart from worn out fans, i don't think I've ever had another laptop destruction, or at least not so far. Possibly Sean, your laptops are rebelling at being reformated so much ;D. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook Hi Shaun, Sheesh, man! You are pretty rough on your laptops. Lol! I've never had that much problem with any computer laptop or desktop that I can recall. If it is a desktop that has a hardware failior I tend to replace the parts manually if it is something I can fix. Laptops I just tend to take care of as best I can so they don't get destroyed. Only Once haveI actually dropped a laptop and wonder of wonders it lived to run another day without serious damage. Although, I don't feel too bad for your NEC. I hate that brand with a passion. Cheers! On 5/4/10, shaun everiss wrote: well since we are talking about laptops I have had several. my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001 It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power modules and a mains plug. I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once. my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds. this lasted to about 2001 as a main box. running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0. this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that needed upgrading. 2002-2004. I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw deal with a nec versa. yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow. the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and required reformatting every week or so to keep it working. I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it and the rest bashint it literally in frustration. it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before an exam. G. I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well. the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box. after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9. It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive burned out. as a resolt I can't recover the box. the screen is loose and floppy too. after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I used for what it was worth it was usefull. I had it for a year then got rid of it. The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get me to reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost given up on it at times. its format process requires sight though and I am happy its gone ok for this long even with the abuse its got which is not to much though its keyboard was just replaced last month. Its probably gona last me till it burns its cpu. Ofcause not all the laptops are dead. my 4400 is now an email system for my mums friend or one of them. it does what it needs to do. my 310 was traded for a couple disks of mp3s and is happily making someone happy. my a10 satelite if I ever manage to replace the fan, cd drive and screen hinges will ride again though with its single core cpu there is probably not much point. my 1850 will work if I ever got the components, though I dropped it again while trying to fix it resulting in smoking batteries and broken casings so I think thats unlikely. My nec is in hell and I hope it stays there. disturbingly though it was the cheapest system on one of the us sites I think cnet or something. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hi, Yeah, I'm a fan of Toshiba myself. Although, I haven't actually owned one I know plenty of people who do, have worked on them in the field, and they are ranked amung my favorite laptops. I think whenever my Compaq goes my next will likely be a Toshiba. On 5/4/10, dark wrote: > Actually tom, I can beat that. > > My old uni laptop, a toshiba was bought in 2000, and I used it up until > 2006, and until i got my desktop in 2005, it was pretty much used for > several hours every day. In fact the only thing that went on it was the fan > (my dad actually started using it recently just to do basic word processing, > though he's sinse bought a newer model and my old machine has been consigned > to the dustbin of history). > > the most extreme though is my brother's Toshiba. He had his original machine > stolen during a burglary in 1997, containing all the work for his A-levels. > Dolphin physically built him one within 10 days (this was in the days when > you couldn't install a program like supernova without assistance, so it was > better done in the shop), and sent it out. > > he stopped using it as a main work machine in 2005, and sinse bought a > smaller netbook as a basic note taker. however, my mum is stil! using that > machine, complete with it's install of windows 95 as a word processer > now, and it stil! works! Admittedly, sinse my brother used consoles for > his gaming, i don't believe it saw quite as much use as mine as it was > basically used for word processing and net brousing, --- but stil it must be > a record. > > As you might gather, we all like toshiba as a make. > > I did once use an acer, but found it ridiculously buggy and prone to > overheat, even though it was scarcely six months old. > > The only issue with toshibas I've noticed is to be careful with the > batteries, and remember to keep running them down, even when unnecessary. > > i bought two new batteries for my toshiba last year, and I try to run them > down to nothing even when I've got a power point handy. Their stil taking > full chaarge, which is good. Admittedly that's only about 200 minutes per > battery, not like the battery life on some more modern machines, but having > two of them helps a lot. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hi Shaun, Sheesh, man! You are pretty rough on your laptops. Lol! I've never had that much problem with any computer laptop or desktop that I can recall. If it is a desktop that has a hardware failior I tend to replace the parts manually if it is something I can fix. Laptops I just tend to take care of as best I can so they don't get destroyed. Only Once haveI actually dropped a laptop and wonder of wonders it lived to run another day without serious damage. Although, I don't feel too bad for your NEC. I hate that brand with a passion. Cheers! On 5/4/10, shaun everiss wrote: > well since we are talking about laptops I have had several. > my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001 > It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power modules > and a mains plug. > I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which > unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once. > > my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds. > this lasted to about 2001 as a main box. > running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0. > this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that needed > upgrading. > > 2002-2004. > I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw > deal with a nec versa. > yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow. > the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and required > reformatting every week or so to keep it working. > I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it and > the rest bashint it literally in frustration. > it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before an > exam. > G. > I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well. > the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box. > after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9. > It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive burned > out. > as a resolt I can't recover the box. > the screen is loose and floppy too. > after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I > used for what it was worth it was usefull. > I had it for a year then got rid of it. > The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get me > to reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost given up on it > at times. > its format process requires sight though and I am happy its gone ok for this > long even with the abuse its got which is not to much though its keyboard > was just replaced last month. > Its probably gona last me till it burns its cpu. > > Ofcause not all the laptops are dead. > > my 4400 is now an email system for my mums friend or one of them. > it does what it needs to do. > my 310 was traded for a couple disks of mp3s and is happily making someone > happy. > my a10 satelite if I ever manage to replace the fan, cd drive and screen > hinges will ride again though with its single core cpu there is probably not > much point. > > my 1850 will work if I ever got the components, though I dropped it again > while trying to fix it resulting in smoking batteries and broken casings so > I think thats unlikely. > My nec is in hell and I hope it stays there. > disturbingly though it was the cheapest system on one of the us sites I > think cnet or something. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Actually tom, I can beat that. My old uni laptop, a toshiba was bought in 2000, and I used it up until 2006, and until i got my desktop in 2005, it was pretty much used for several hours every day. In fact the only thing that went on it was the fan (my dad actually started using it recently just to do basic word processing, though he's sinse bought a newer model and my old machine has been consigned to the dustbin of history). the most extreme though is my brother's Toshiba. He had his original machine stolen during a burglary in 1997, containing all the work for his A-levels. Dolphin physically built him one within 10 days (this was in the days when you couldn't install a program like supernova without assistance, so it was better done in the shop), and sent it out. he stopped using it as a main work machine in 2005, and sinse bought a smaller netbook as a basic note taker. however, my mum is stil! using that machine, complete with it's install of windows 95 as a word processer now, and it stil! works! Admittedly, sinse my brother used consoles for his gaming, i don't believe it saw quite as much use as mine as it was basically used for word processing and net brousing, --- but stil it must be a record. As you might gather, we all like toshiba as a make. I did once use an acer, but found it ridiculously buggy and prone to overheat, even though it was scarcely six months old. The only issue with toshibas I've noticed is to be careful with the batteries, and remember to keep running them down, even when unnecessary. i bought two new batteries for my toshiba last year, and I try to run them down to nothing even when I've got a power point handy. Their stil taking full chaarge, which is good. Admittedly that's only about 200 minutes per battery, not like the battery life on some more modern machines, but having two of them helps a lot. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
well since we are talking about laptops I have had several. my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001 It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power modules and a mains plug. I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once. my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds. this lasted to about 2001 as a main box. running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0. this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that needed upgrading. 2002-2004. I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw deal with a nec versa. yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow. the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and required reformatting every week or so to keep it working. I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it and the rest bashint it literally in frustration. it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before an exam. G. I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well. the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box. after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9. It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive burned out. as a resolt I can't recover the box. the screen is loose and floppy too. after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I used for what it was worth it was usefull. I had it for a year then got rid of it. The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get me to reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost given up on it at times. its format process requires sight though and I am happy its gone ok for this long even with the abuse its got which is not to much though its keyboard was just replaced last month. Its probably gona last me till it burns its cpu. Ofcause not all the laptops are dead. my 4400 is now an email system for my mums friend or one of them. it does what it needs to do. my 310 was traded for a couple disks of mp3s and is happily making someone happy. my a10 satelite if I ever manage to replace the fan, cd drive and screen hinges will ride again though with its single core cpu there is probably not much point. my 1850 will work if I ever got the components, though I dropped it again while trying to fix it resulting in smoking batteries and broken casings so I think thats unlikely. My nec is in hell and I hope it stays there. disturbingly though it was the cheapest system on one of the us sites I think cnet or something. At 04:38 a.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote: >Hi dark, >Yeah, I've found laptops to be pretty rugged in design. My first >laptop I purchased in 1998 and I used it clear up until 2004 or so >when it was just too out of date to be practical any more. My next >laptop was an Averitech 6200 which I recently sold to my dad, and it >still works decently, but he upgraded it and now it works as good as >new. A bit old as far as laptops go, but is still mostly good enough >for day to day use. My current laptop is a Compaq 800 series notebook >which I purchased in 2008 and I figure it will last me for a few more >years yet. It runs Windows 7 just fine, and does everything I want it >to do. The dvd burner died a while back, but I sent it in, got it >serviced, and now it is as good as new. > >Smile. > >On 5/3/10, dark wrote: >> Hi Tom. >> >> Well bare in mind that I grew up carting laptops around in the days when it >> wasn't uncommon for a machine to have a floppy drive and cd drive as well, a >> full sized keyboard and a 15 inch screen, so my deffinitions of "slim line" >> are rather different to other peoples ;D. >> >> I'm currently using a toshiba I got in 2005. I'km not quite sure on ram etc, >> but I've yet to find an application it won't run, and though it doesn't have >> a dvd burner, it does have a very passable rewrite cd drive. >> >> In fact the only thing about it I find a pain is that it only has 32 gb of >> storage space, which practically means I can't keep my entire music and >> audio library on it, though i have got copies of all audio games. >> >> I did look at net books for interests' sake as much as anything, and because >> as far as past experience goes the operational life of a laptop I've found >> tends to be roughly 7 years, and I am taking my laptop around to various >> places, up and down the country on trains, to the Italian alps and even >> crusing down the Nile in egypt. >> >> I suspect whatever machine I buy next will simply be smaller, just by virtue >> of being smaller, but I have no intention of skimping on features. Indeed, >> probably the only feature I won't bother with is a screen, sinse I generally >> find below 21 inches is my limit for visible screen size, though of >> course I don't really need the s
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hi dark, Yeah, I've found laptops to be pretty rugged in design. My first laptop I purchased in 1998 and I used it clear up until 2004 or so when it was just too out of date to be practical any more. My next laptop was an Averitech 6200 which I recently sold to my dad, and it still works decently, but he upgraded it and now it works as good as new. A bit old as far as laptops go, but is still mostly good enough for day to day use. My current laptop is a Compaq 800 series notebook which I purchased in 2008 and I figure it will last me for a few more years yet. It runs Windows 7 just fine, and does everything I want it to do. The dvd burner died a while back, but I sent it in, got it serviced, and now it is as good as new. Smile. On 5/3/10, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > Well bare in mind that I grew up carting laptops around in the days when it > wasn't uncommon for a machine to have a floppy drive and cd drive as well, a > full sized keyboard and a 15 inch screen, so my deffinitions of "slim line" > are rather different to other peoples ;D. > > I'm currently using a toshiba I got in 2005. I'km not quite sure on ram etc, > but I've yet to find an application it won't run, and though it doesn't have > a dvd burner, it does have a very passable rewrite cd drive. > > In fact the only thing about it I find a pain is that it only has 32 gb of > storage space, which practically means I can't keep my entire music and > audio library on it, though i have got copies of all audio games. > > I did look at net books for interests' sake as much as anything, and because > as far as past experience goes the operational life of a laptop I've found > tends to be roughly 7 years, and I am taking my laptop around to various > places, up and down the country on trains, to the Italian alps and even > crusing down the Nile in egypt. > > I suspect whatever machine I buy next will simply be smaller, just by virtue > of being smaller, but I have no intention of skimping on features. Indeed, > probably the only feature I won't bother with is a screen, sinse I generally > find below 21 inches is my limit for visible screen size, though of > course I don't really need the screen for all that much anyway. > > Oh, and I hate! those mini keyboards with a pattion! I really don't think > they were made with touch typing in mind, particularly not at the sort > of speed I tend to type at. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
i only have 1 gig in my samsung nc10 at the moment so i will try 2 but we see On 3 May 2010, at 18:27, michael barnes wrote: > Hey Will. i disagree with Thomas because i have a notebook. and i'm runing > two gb. of ram and it runs the games just great. i have at least forty games. > > -- > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hey dark. like i said i have not any trouble with the notebook that i have. it run just fine. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hey Will. i disagree with Thomas because i have a notebook. and i'm runing two gb. of ram and it runs the games just great. i have at least forty games. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hi Tom. Well bare in mind that I grew up carting laptops around in the days when it wasn't uncommon for a machine to have a floppy drive and cd drive as well, a full sized keyboard and a 15 inch screen, so my deffinitions of "slim line" are rather different to other peoples ;D. I'm currently using a toshiba I got in 2005. I'km not quite sure on ram etc, but I've yet to find an application it won't run, and though it doesn't have a dvd burner, it does have a very passable rewrite cd drive. In fact the only thing about it I find a pain is that it only has 32 gb of storage space, which practically means I can't keep my entire music and audio library on it, though i have got copies of all audio games. I did look at net books for interests' sake as much as anything, and because as far as past experience goes the operational life of a laptop I've found tends to be roughly 7 years, and I am taking my laptop around to various places, up and down the country on trains, to the Italian alps and even crusing down the Nile in egypt. I suspect whatever machine I buy next will simply be smaller, just by virtue of being smaller, but I have no intention of skimping on features. Indeed, probably the only feature I won't bother with is a screen, sinse I generally find below 21 inches is my limit for visible screen size, though of course I don't really need the screen for all that much anyway. Oh, and I hate! those mini keyboards with a pattion! I really don't think they were made with touch typing in mind, particularly not at the sort of speed I tend to type at. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
Hi Dark, Exactly my point. I think far too often people mistake Netbooks for a type of inexpensive and slim line type of laptop which they are not. Oh, they are nice and handy if you are someone who needs to run standard day to day apps like Word, Excel, Quicken, Firefox, etc but beyond that you are pressing your luck. They have relatively small storage space, less memory, less CPU power, to say nothing of not coming with dvd burners, etc that comes with a real laptop computer. Netbooks really are nothing more and nothing less than a type of notetaker device. As for looking for a more slim line laptop, as you put it, I'm not really sure how feasable that is realistically. After all the difference between a laptop and a netbook computer can be quite different. For example, my laptop computer has a 3.6 GHZ processor, 2 GB of ram, a 160 GB hard drive, a 15 inch display, a dvd burner, etc. It is powerful enough to run about any program/application I want to run as well as do things like watch dvd movies which you can't do at all on a netbook. I know that some laptops have a home theater type feel to them so they come with 17 inch and even 19 inch displays for better visibility for people who like using their computer for watching movies or who want to play video games on their laptop. Obviously, having such a large display naturally makes the laptop unit much bigger and heavier to carry around. Netbooks on the other hand are not designed for video games and watching movies so can afford to get away with a much smaller screen, not have a full sized keyboard, not include a dvd player, etc. If you want small you can have it, but you also have to do without all of the bells and wistles so to speak. Smile. On 5/3/10, dark wrote: > That is essentially what put me off getting one myself, the lack of ability > to do things with it. > > I think I'll probably just wait until my laptop explodes, by which time > there should be powerful enough slim line laptops which will fulfill the > need very well. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
That is essentially what put me off getting one myself, the lack of ability to do things with it. I think I'll probably just wait until my laptop explodes, by which time there should be powerful enough slim line laptops which will fulfill the need very well. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook Hi Will, I'm sure that will help some, but in my opinion Netbooks aren't exactly a good option for games of any kind. Keep in mind they are only designed to be notetakers with wireless web access so can't handle a lot of applications that require heavy system resources. Some of our games run fine on them, but anything too resource intensive won't run well at all no matter how much ram you slap into it. HTH On 5/3/10, william lomas wrote: hi all, I have a samsung nc10 netbook and games like pinball tend to run quite slow. I assume if I get a 2 gig ram stick it will all run a lot faster? Will william lomas follow me on twitter: billbow_baggins --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
