Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Sly, I am sorry, but I probably will not be adding force feedback to Mach 1. I don't think that I would like it and I do not believe that I have the software for my steering wheel. Sorry about that. BFN Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Thomas, Yeah, there are just allot of lines of code for the joysticks. I just have to figure out which ones that I need to duplicate with an r rather than the l. I did not have a clue about how to do the right joystick, now I do. Thank you very much. BFN Jim Thank you for reading this message! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Jim! It would be Totaly Awesome! if you could figure out how to incorprate force feedback with your mach one game. I love playing top speed and the force feed back is Excellent and adds a lot to the experience. Keep on Keepin On! Sly who is going to play some Trucker right now On 8/15/14, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Yeah, there are just allot of lines of code for the joysticks. I just have to figure out which ones that I need to duplicate with an r rather than the l. I did not have a clue about how to do the right joystick, now I do. Thank you very much. BFN Jim Thank you for reading this message! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Thomas, Thank you. I do see lots of lines of code that look like they are for the left stick. I'll have to experiment and try to get the right stick working as well. You know there is trying to detect it, initialize it, set the ranges, assign it and then be able to get input from it. Thank you again. BFN Jim My joystick is a Saitek ST290 Pro. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Charles, Yeah, I can't seem to find it either. I guess it was sent to Audyssey when we were still on Yahoo. I'll have to check my backup drives and see if I still have a copy. I found my review of the Logitech F510 but not the Philips SGC-2909. I guess the question is how important is this review? If people think it is important I suppose I can rewrite the thing if I can't turn up a copy. However, I should have a copy on one of my backup drives. Trouble is figuring out which one, and hope it wasn't lost in a drive crash or something. Cheers! On 8/13/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I've looked through the archives, and cannot find the review. I searched for Philips SGC2909 with you as the author of the post. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Jim, Yes, I'm aware of all that. The thing is the initialization code only needs to be done once for the controller. It doesn't matter how many sticks, buttons, and other controls are on it as all of that will be detected by your initialization of the device. Once it is initialized all you have to do is use the correct code to acquire information about the state of the left stick, right stick, POV hat, buttons, etc while it is in use. In other words you don't have to have two separate initializations just because there are two sticks on the controller. You only need one initialization that allows you to gather input from any button or stick on the device. Cheers! On 8/14/14, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Thank you. I do see lots of lines of code that look like they are for the left stick. I'll have to experiment and try to get the right stick working as well. You know there is trying to detect it, initialize it, set the ranges, assign it and then be able to get input from it. Thank you again. BFN Jim My joystick is a Saitek ST290 Pro. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Basically, I'm looking for a user's guide in text format to get a layout of the controller. So far, I haven't been able to find one. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question Hi Charles, Yeah, I can't seem to find it either. I guess it was sent to Audyssey when we were still on Yahoo. I'll have to check my backup drives and see if I still have a copy. I found my review of the Logitech F510 but not the Philips SGC-2909. I guess the question is how important is this review? If people think it is important I suppose I can rewrite the thing if I can't turn up a copy. However, I should have a copy on one of my backup drives. Trouble is figuring out which one, and hope it wasn't lost in a drive crash or something. Cheers! On 8/13/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I've looked through the archives, and cannot find the review. I searched for Philips SGC2909 with you as the author of the post. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Curious: What the heck is a POV hat? I'm figuring Point Of something, but can't come up with the V of the acronym. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question Hi Jim, Yes, I'm aware of all that. The thing is the initialization code only needs to be done once for the controller. It doesn't matter how many sticks, buttons, and other controls are on it as all of that will be detected by your initialization of the device. Once it is initialized all you have to do is use the correct code to acquire information about the state of the left stick, right stick, POV hat, buttons, etc while it is in use. In other words you don't have to have two separate initializations just because there are two sticks on the controller. You only need one initialization that allows you to gather input from any button or stick on the device. Cheers! On 8/14/14, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Thank you. I do see lots of lines of code that look like they are for the left stick. I'll have to experiment and try to get the right stick working as well. You know there is trying to detect it, initialize it, set the ranges, assign it and then be able to get input from it. Thank you again. BFN Jim My joystick is a Saitek ST290 Pro. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, POV stands for point of view. In mainstream games it is often possible to change the point of view or the perspective of where the game character is looking by using the POV hat on the controller to look around at the game world without moving the character. Typically the POV hat is a round shaped control on the gamepad located at the top left corner of the unit. You press it up or down to look up/down or press it left or right to look left/right. There is usually a button nearby to have it toggle between point of view and movement controls for the game character so you can use it as a type of alternative joystick as well as looking around. Since audio games don't usually have look commands I doubt many will employ this control much, but it is useful in mainstream games and could easily be adapted to audio. In fact, I am planning on doing just that once I get around to launching my full 3d audio games. Cheers! On 8/14/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Curious: What the heck is a POV hat? I'm figuring Point Of something, but can't come up with the V of the acronym. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Charles, I see. Unfortunately, I'm not finding a copy of my review, but the controller isn't that complicated. The controller actually has a fairly typical gamepad layout. Although, that probably doesn't help seeing as you are a newbie to game controllers. In any case I'll see what I can come up with. No promises, but at worse I'll try and recreate the review. Problem is I don't have sighted assistance around so I don't quite remember which buttons are labeled A, B, C, D, etc. In any case that usually doesn't matter because in games such as my own I have a profiler to map whatever action I want to the button and no longer recall what it is labeled. That's hardly a good thing for a technical review. Still I suppose I can find someone to remind me of what buttons are labeled what. Though, it might take a few days. Cheers! On 8/14/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Basically, I'm looking for a user's guide in text format to get a layout of the controller. So far, I haven't been able to find one. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Cool info. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question Hi Charles, POV stands for point of view. In mainstream games it is often possible to change the point of view or the perspective of where the game character is looking by using the POV hat on the controller to look around at the game world without moving the character. Typically the POV hat is a round shaped control on the gamepad located at the top left corner of the unit. You press it up or down to look up/down or press it left or right to look left/right. There is usually a button nearby to have it toggle between point of view and movement controls for the game character so you can use it as a type of alternative joystick as well as looking around. Since audio games don't usually have look commands I doubt many will employ this control much, but it is useful in mainstream games and could easily be adapted to audio. In fact, I am planning on doing just that once I get around to launching my full 3d audio games. Cheers! On 8/14/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Curious: What the heck is a POV hat? I'm figuring Point Of something, but can't come up with the V of the acronym. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Charles, Besides all of the things that Thomas said, the biggest problem that I have is that the code that I found only finds the left stick. I just could not figure out how to get it to find two sticks. So it finds ten buttons and one stick. Now with the Logitech MOMO Racing steering wheel the steering wheel is the left and right of the stick and the gas and brake peddle is the up and down of the stick. A person can use one stick with the game, but it just isn't very intuitive or fun to steer with the one stick left and right and at the same time with the same stick do the gas and brake peddle. BTW My Saitek ST290 Pro joystick has a large triangular shaped base. Then there is one joystick about a foot tall. It has a wrist rest on it, a trigger and four thumb buttons on the top of it. And then on the base there is also a horseshoe shaped slider control which would work great for the throttle in say Puppy 1, but I could not figure out how to detect that control either. BFN Jim What Do You Call a Boomerang That Doesn't work? A Stick j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Jim, Just for your info accessing both sticks on a gamepad is actually quite simple with DirectInput. The joystates are lX and lY for the left stick and rX and RY for the right stick. My memory of the correct VB code is a bit fuzzy but it should look something like this. ' declare variables to get the x/y axis of both sticks Dim x1 As Long Dim x2 As Long Dim y1 As Long Dim y2 As Long ' Get the state of the left stick x1 = joystate.lX y1 = joystate.lY ' Get the state of the right stick x2 = joystate.rX y2 = joystate.rY I hope that helps. Its been ages since I messed around with VB 6, but that's basically how it works. Same basic code as the left stick but instead of the lX and lY states you use the rX and RY states of the joystate object you initialized in your joystick initialization. Cheers! On 8/13/14, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Charles, Besides all of the things that Thomas said, the biggest problem that I have is that the code that I found only finds the left stick. I just could not figure out how to get it to find two sticks. So it finds ten buttons and one stick. Now with the Logitech MOMO Racing steering wheel the steering wheel is the left and right of the stick and the gas and brake peddle is the up and down of the stick. A person can use one stick with the game, but it just isn't very intuitive or fun to steer with the one stick left and right and at the same time with the same stick do the gas and brake peddle. BTW My Saitek ST290 Pro joystick has a large triangular shaped base. Then there is one joystick about a foot tall. It has a wrist rest on it, a trigger and four thumb buttons on the top of it. And then on the base there is also a horseshoe shaped slider control which would work great for the throttle in say Puppy 1, but I could not figure out how to detect that control either. BFN Jim What Do You Call a Boomerang That Doesn't work? A Stick j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Charles, I posted that review right here on Audyssey. It should be in the list archives, but not sure quite when as it was ages ago when I wrote it. However, if you go to the list archive page on mailarchive.org, of which there is a link to it on our site, you should be able to search for the review. If you can't find it I can look for it and repost. As to the software if you can't find it I'll look for the CD, zip it up, and slap it up on Dropbox or something. Its perfectly legal to distribute as it is freeware anyway. Cheers! On 8/12/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I've been surfing on the web, and the software for your controller is the same that mine uses, although I haven't found where to get it. Also, now that you mention your make and model, I'm thinking that it is the one that Thomas Ward did a write-up on, although I don't recall where it was posted. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Valiant, That sounds about right. Although, that unit was out more like 8 years ago rather than 10. However, as far as controllers goes it is getting long in the tooth. However, it still works fine with a lot of games. I've plugged it in on systems running Windows 8.1 and Windows finds it, and everything works accept the force feedback which I don't really care about anyway. Not a lot of accessible games have or use force feedback so I can use it with most games without any big deal. Cheers! On 8/12/14, valiant8086 valiant8...@gmail.com wrote: I have the same one, but I'm not sure what it is either. I wanted to say philip 2909 but that's probably not right. I bought it at walmart probably 10 years ago. Cheers, Sent with thunderbird 17.0.8 portable --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'll let you know, off list. Thanks in advance. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question Hi Charles, I posted that review right here on Audyssey. It should be in the list archives, but not sure quite when as it was ages ago when I wrote it. However, if you go to the list archive page on mailarchive.org, of which there is a link to it on our site, you should be able to search for the review. If you can't find it I can look for it and repost. As to the software if you can't find it I'll look for the CD, zip it up, and slap it up on Dropbox or something. Its perfectly legal to distribute as it is freeware anyway. Cheers! On 8/12/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I've been surfing on the web, and the software for your controller is the same that mine uses, although I haven't found where to get it. Also, now that you mention your make and model, I'm thinking that it is the one that Thomas Ward did a write-up on, although I don't recall where it was posted. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I didn't even know that it had force feedback. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question Hi Valiant, That sounds about right. Although, that unit was out more like 8 years ago rather than 10. However, as far as controllers goes it is getting long in the tooth. However, it still works fine with a lot of games. I've plugged it in on systems running Windows 8.1 and Windows finds it, and everything works accept the force feedback which I don't really care about anyway. Not a lot of accessible games have or use force feedback so I can use it with most games without any big deal. Cheers! On 8/12/14, valiant8086 valiant8...@gmail.com wrote: I have the same one, but I'm not sure what it is either. I wanted to say philip 2909 but that's probably not right. I bought it at walmart probably 10 years ago. Cheers, Sent with thunderbird 17.0.8 portable --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, Yep. It sure does. Although, one has to install Philips drivers and software to use the force feedback feature. I haven't had XP for ages so have been running the Microsoft generic Windows drivers which work okay, but lack force feedback support for the device. Cheers! On 8/13/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I didn't even know that it had force feedback. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hmmm I remember that a controler was discussed by philips the model was 940 or something I don't remember now. At 03:02 a.m. 12/08/2014, you wrote: Rummaging through a box of stuff I had packed when moving into this house, I have come across a game controller. I think that Thomas Ward did a review of it once, but I don't recall which model this is, or anything about it. I'll describe it below in hopes that this indicates what I have. The question is this: Is this an adequate controller for the currently accessible games for blind gamers. I'm still using Windows XP. Here's the description: The USB cable is retractable and the button to retract it is immediately to the right of the cable. Along this same surface are 2 buttons on the left edge and two more on the right edge. This surface faces away from the gamer. On the top surface on the left is a set of 4 sort of long buttons that look like they might be arrows. These are just forward and to the left of a round knob that can be moved in any direction and also clicks when pressed straight down. There is another identical knob to the right of this one. Between these knobs is a set of 4 buttons in a diamond pattern, the rightmost one feels like an arrow that points to the right. To the right, and slightly ahead of, the right hand knob mentioned before is another set of 4 buttons that are a bit bigger and are round, in a diamond shape. Northwest and northeast of the center set of buttons, is another small button. Between these two buttons is an oval-shaped, convex glass or plastic piece that does not press. I'm thinking it is some visual indicator of some sort. Finally, facing the gamer are two handles with which to hold the controller. Any feedback on this is appreciated. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, The review I wrote was for the Philips SGC2909 which is the USB version of that controller. Philips also had a wireless version out called the Philips SGC-2910 which was the same but was completely wireless as I recall. Anyway, the SGC-2909 is the one people are talking about here. Cheers! On 8/11/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm I remember that a controler was discussed by philips the model was 940 or something I don't remember now. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I've looked through the archives, and cannot find the review. I searched for Philips SGC2909 with you as the author of the post. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question Hi Charles, I posted that review right here on Audyssey. It should be in the list archives, but not sure quite when as it was ages ago when I wrote it. However, if you go to the list archive page on mailarchive.org, of which there is a link to it on our site, you should be able to search for the review. If you can't find it I can look for it and repost. As to the software if you can't find it I'll look for the CD, zip it up, and slap it up on Dropbox or something. Its perfectly legal to distribute as it is freeware anyway. Cheers! On 8/12/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I've been surfing on the web, and the software for your controller is the same that mine uses, although I haven't found where to get it. Also, now that you mention your make and model, I'm thinking that it is the one that Thomas Ward did a write-up on, although I don't recall where it was posted. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, That would not be the best game controller for Mach 1 tts, but it would certainly work great for Awesome Homer, guns, Pong, Puppy 1, reaction and Triple J Shooter. BFN Jim Which one is the controller? BZBBTTTNot that one! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, That would not be the best game controller for Mach 1 tts, but it would certainly work great for Awesome Homer, guns, Pong, Puppy 1, reaction and Triple J Shooter. BFN Jim My joystick is a Saitek ST290 Pro. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Is it not the best for Mach 1 because of the lack of accelerator, wheel, and pedals? Would the two sticks not take the place of those controls? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Charles Rivard Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question Hi Charles, That would not be the best game controller for Mach 1 tts, but it would certainly work great for Awesome Homer, guns, Pong, Puppy 1, reaction and Triple J Shooter. BFN Jim My joystick is a Saitek ST290 Pro. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, The main reason is because when Jim wrote Mach 1 TTS he exclusively designed it for his Logitech racing wheel. While your game controller will work with the game the buttons and controls won't exactly match up with those the game were designed for. Plus while there are substitute controls they won't be as intuitive as those the game was designed with. For instance on a typical racing wheel there is only one wheel. Turn it left or right to turn the car. With a gamepad you have a POV hat and two sticks. Depending on how your game controller is set up the wheel could be replaced by either stick or the POV hat. Requiring some trial and experimentation to figure out which performs the desired action. Same goes for controls like throttles and gearshifts. Since gamepads are generally designed for different types of games you may or may not have an equivalent control on your pad. Meaning that you may be without a vital control just because of the type of controller being used, or you have something that works but isn't immediately obvious. What would help is a profiler where you can map the controls to whatever works best for that specific controller. Cheers! On 8/12/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Is it not the best for Mach 1 because of the lack of accelerator, wheel, and pedals? Would the two sticks not take the place of those controls? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I have the same one, but I'm not sure what it is either. I wanted to say philip 2909 but that's probably not right. I bought it at walmart probably 10 years ago. Cheers, Sent with thunderbird 17.0.8 portable On 8/11/2014 11:02 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: Rummaging through a box of stuff I had packed when moving into this house, I have come across a game controller. I think that Thomas Ward did a review of it once, but I don't recall which model this is, or anything about it. I'll describe it below in hopes that this indicates what I have. The question is this: Is this an adequate controller for the currently accessible games for blind gamers. I'm still using Windows XP. Here's the description: The USB cable is retractable and the button to retract it is immediately to the right of the cable. Along this same surface are 2 buttons on the left edge and two more on the right edge. This surface faces away from the gamer. On the top surface on the left is a set of 4 sort of long buttons that look like they might be arrows. These are just forward and to the left of a round knob that can be moved in any direction and also clicks when pressed straight down. There is another identical knob to the right of this one. Between these knobs is a set of 4 buttons in a diamond pattern, the rightmost one feels like an arrow that points to the right. To the right, and slightly ahead of, the right hand knob mentioned before is another set of 4 buttons that are a bit bigger and are round, in a diamond shape. Northwest and northeast of the center set of buttons, is another small button. Between these two buttons is an oval-shaped, convex glass or plastic piece that does not press. I'm thinking it is some visual indicator of some sort. Finally, facing the gamer are two handles with which to hold the controller. Any feedback on this is appreciated. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I've been surfing on the web, and the software for your controller is the same that mine uses, although I haven't found where to get it. Also, now that you mention your make and model, I'm thinking that it is the one that Thomas Ward did a write-up on, although I don't recall where it was posted. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: valiant8086 valiant8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question I have the same one, but I'm not sure what it is either. I wanted to say philip 2909 but that's probably not right. I bought it at walmart probably 10 years ago. Cheers, Sent with thunderbird 17.0.8 portable On 8/11/2014 11:02 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: Rummaging through a box of stuff I had packed when moving into this house, I have come across a game controller. I think that Thomas Ward did a review of it once, but I don't recall which model this is, or anything about it. I'll describe it below in hopes that this indicates what I have. The question is this: Is this an adequate controller for the currently accessible games for blind gamers. I'm still using Windows XP. Here's the description: The USB cable is retractable and the button to retract it is immediately to the right of the cable. Along this same surface are 2 buttons on the left edge and two more on the right edge. This surface faces away from the gamer. On the top surface on the left is a set of 4 sort of long buttons that look like they might be arrows. These are just forward and to the left of a round knob that can be moved in any direction and also clicks when pressed straight down. There is another identical knob to the right of this one. Between these knobs is a set of 4 buttons in a diamond pattern, the rightmost one feels like an arrow that points to the right. To the right, and slightly ahead of, the right hand knob mentioned before is another set of 4 buttons that are a bit bigger and are round, in a diamond shape. Northwest and northeast of the center set of buttons, is another small button. Between these two buttons is an oval-shaped, convex glass or plastic piece that does not press. I'm thinking it is some visual indicator of some sort. Finally, facing the gamer are two handles with which to hold the controller. Any feedback on this is appreciated. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Fastest way is to have someone with sight just read the logo sticker on the controller. because that description could fit a lot or ones not highly known. At 11:02 AM 8/11/2014, you wrote: Rummaging through a box of stuff I had packed when moving into this house, I have come across a game controller. I think that Thomas Ward did a review of it once, but I don't recall which model this is, or anything about it. I'll describe it below in hopes that this indicates what I have. The question is this: Is this an adequate controller for the currently accessible games for blind gamers. I'm still using Windows XP. Here's the description: The USB cable is retractable and the button to retract it is immediately to the right of the cable. Along this same surface are 2 buttons on the left edge and two more on the right edge. This surface faces away from the gamer. On the top surface on the left is a set of 4 sort of long buttons that look like they might be arrows. These are just forward and to the left of a round knob that can be moved in any direction and also clicks when pressed straight down. There is another identical knob to the right of this one. Between these knobs is a set of 4 buttons in a diamond pattern, the rightmost one feels like an arrow that points to the right. To the right, and slightly ahead of, the right hand knob mentioned before is another set of 4 buttons that are a bit bigger and are round, in a diamond shape. Northwest and northeast of the center set of buttons, is another small button. Between these two buttons is an oval-shaped, convex glass or plastic piece that does not press. I'm thinking it is some visual indicator of some sort. Finally, facing the gamer are two handles with which to hold the controller. Any feedback on this is appreciated. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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No sighted people nearby, otherwise I would have done so. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question Fastest way is to have someone with sight just read the logo sticker on the controller. because that description could fit a lot or ones not highly known. At 11:02 AM 8/11/2014, you wrote: Rummaging through a box of stuff I had packed when moving into this house, I have come across a game controller. I think that Thomas Ward did a review of it once, but I don't recall which model this is, or anything about it. I'll describe it below in hopes that this indicates what I have. The question is this: Is this an adequate controller for the currently accessible games for blind gamers. I'm still using Windows XP. Here's the description: The USB cable is retractable and the button to retract it is immediately to the right of the cable. Along this same surface are 2 buttons on the left edge and two more on the right edge. This surface faces away from the gamer. On the top surface on the left is a set of 4 sort of long buttons that look like they might be arrows. These are just forward and to the left of a round knob that can be moved in any direction and also clicks when pressed straight down. There is another identical knob to the right of this one. Between these knobs is a set of 4 buttons in a diamond pattern, the rightmost one feels like an arrow that points to the right. To the right, and slightly ahead of, the right hand knob mentioned before is another set of 4 buttons that are a bit bigger and are round, in a diamond shape. Northwest and northeast of the center set of buttons, is another small button. Between these two buttons is an oval-shaped, convex glass or plastic piece that does not press. I'm thinking it is some visual indicator of some sort. Finally, facing the gamer are two handles with which to hold the controller. Any feedback on this is appreciated. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Charles, Well, the description you gave of the game controller could fit any number of gamepads as that is a fairly common description of a USB gamepad. That said, if I reviewed it you may be talking about the review I gave of the Philips 9009 rumblepad a few years ago. In any case if you have XP drivers for the device it should be more than sufficient for any audio games written in the last few years. As I may have indicated in a prior post on list most audio games don't really take full advantage of gamepads and other controllers anyway. Most have very generic support allowing the device to use the POV hat to move the character around, and the buttons will run, jump, fire, etc. Most games like Troopanum II, for example, are so generic that any game controller will do. So I wouldn't worry about having to buy the latest and greatest to play games. As it is I still use a lot of my older game controllers like the Philips 9009 with audio games, because there hasn't been any need for a newer controller. It works well with Troopanum, Topspeed, Jim Kitchen's games, etc. In fact, the only reason I got the Logitech F710 was because it was wireless and I wanted something more portable without a chord. Other than that my old Philips controller is just fine as a controller. cheers! On 8/11/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Rummaging through a box of stuff I had packed when moving into this house, I have come across a game controller. I think that Thomas Ward did a review of it once, but I don't recall which model this is, or anything about it. I'll describe it below in hopes that this indicates what I have. The question is this: Is this an adequate controller for the currently accessible games for blind gamers. I'm still using Windows XP. Here's the description: The USB cable is retractable and the button to retract it is immediately to the right of the cable. Along this same surface are 2 buttons on the left edge and two more on the right edge. This surface faces away from the gamer. On the top surface on the left is a set of 4 sort of long buttons that look like they might be arrows. These are just forward and to the left of a round knob that can be moved in any direction and also clicks when pressed straight down. There is another identical knob to the right of this one. Between these knobs is a set of 4 buttons in a diamond pattern, the rightmost one feels like an arrow that points to the right. To the right, and slightly ahead of, the right hand knob mentioned before is another set of 4 buttons that are a bit bigger and are round, in a diamond shape. Northwest and northeast of the center set of buttons, is another small button. Between these two buttons is an oval-shaped, convex glass or plastic piece that does not press. I'm thinking it is some visual indicator of some sort. Finally, facing the gamer are two handles with which to hold the controller. Any feedback on this is appreciated. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
I don't recall this being a rumble pad, but Phillips does ring a bell. When I plug it in, and start a game of Aliens in the Outback, nothing happens. When selecting to configure the joystick, none is found. I'll try it on some other games to see how it goes. If a driver is needed, any suggestions? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question Hi Charles, Well, the description you gave of the game controller could fit any number of gamepads as that is a fairly common description of a USB gamepad. That said, if I reviewed it you may be talking about the review I gave of the Philips 9009 rumblepad a few years ago. In any case if you have XP drivers for the device it should be more than sufficient for any audio games written in the last few years. As I may have indicated in a prior post on list most audio games don't really take full advantage of gamepads and other controllers anyway. Most have very generic support allowing the device to use the POV hat to move the character around, and the buttons will run, jump, fire, etc. Most games like Troopanum II, for example, are so generic that any game controller will do. So I wouldn't worry about having to buy the latest and greatest to play games. As it is I still use a lot of my older game controllers like the Philips 9009 with audio games, because there hasn't been any need for a newer controller. It works well with Troopanum, Topspeed, Jim Kitchen's games, etc. In fact, the only reason I got the Logitech F710 was because it was wireless and I wanted something more portable without a chord. Other than that my old Philips controller is just fine as a controller. cheers! On 8/11/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Rummaging through a box of stuff I had packed when moving into this house, I have come across a game controller. I think that Thomas Ward did a review of it once, but I don't recall which model this is, or anything about it. I'll describe it below in hopes that this indicates what I have. The question is this: Is this an adequate controller for the currently accessible games for blind gamers. I'm still using Windows XP. Here's the description: The USB cable is retractable and the button to retract it is immediately to the right of the cable. Along this same surface are 2 buttons on the left edge and two more on the right edge. This surface faces away from the gamer. On the top surface on the left is a set of 4 sort of long buttons that look like they might be arrows. These are just forward and to the left of a round knob that can be moved in any direction and also clicks when pressed straight down. There is another identical knob to the right of this one. Between these knobs is a set of 4 buttons in a diamond pattern, the rightmost one feels like an arrow that points to the right. To the right, and slightly ahead of, the right hand knob mentioned before is another set of 4 buttons that are a bit bigger and are round, in a diamond shape. Northwest and northeast of the center set of buttons, is another small button. Between these two buttons is an oval-shaped, convex glass or plastic piece that does not press. I'm thinking it is some visual indicator of some sort. Finally, facing the gamer are two handles with which to hold the controller. Any feedback on this is appreciated. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Charles, Yes. Use the CD that came with the controller. It comes with the Windows drivers as well as the software needed for calibrating the device. The software is also necessary if you wish to use force feedback in games that have it like Topspeed. Cheers! On 8/11/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I don't recall this being a rumble pad, but Phillips does ring a bell. When I plug it in, and start a game of Aliens in the Outback, nothing happens. When selecting to configure the joystick, none is found. I'll try it on some other games to see how it goes. If a driver is needed, any suggestions? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game controller question
Hi Charles, The Phillips game controller does not need to be left plugged in. In fact with the retractable usb chord it seams it is meant to be unplugged, rolled up, and stored when not in use. Of course weather to store it or leave it plugged in is your choice, and therefore is optional. As for the little lights I have no idea about those. I imagine eventually they might burn out, but they certainly have no effect on actual controller input. Those are just status indicaters I think. Charles Rivard wrote: This may seem like a really dumb one, but here goes, anyway. I'll probably install the game controller I have tomorrow afternoon. I think there is some sort of light inside it. Should it always be left connected to the PC once installed, as a mouse does? I'm just thinking about the possibility of wearing out, or burning out, the light. Of course, the light won't bother me, but could it, if burned out, affect the controler's performance? Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
