[Audyssey] guilds

2009-11-29 Thread shaun everiss
Hi all
how do I join a gild in core exiles?
I think i may look at a list, since I really need to do something about getting 
somewhere.
right now I only just have enough to live by.
Sooner rather than later I will be running out of things.
ip is low, like real low spent most of it well a good chunk  of 20k on servey 
for an extracter which I have placed.
I will be in a few missions be low on kits, not to mention I need to get more 
weaponry at some point.
so I think a guild is the next thing I need to get in, being indipendant just 
doesn't cut it.
on that note what do all of you guys use for chatting on the irc server I have 
a configed build of miranda but couldn't get it working right with irc.
My next plan was to get a good irc client.
Where do I get a free one that works.
the last one I heard about with the bofhnetirc client which was pree 
freedomchat but thats real old.


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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
I always buy stock even if I can't.
especially if I have unlucky roles early on in the game.
At 02:54 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
Well i usually do buy stock if I can,  but sometimes,  as happened 
with my friends, i just didn't land on the right square for that.

We've actually had far more fun out of the phrase but you daaant! than we 
could possibly have got if you'd added the apostropphy Jim,  so never 
mind,  actually, now that I play with realspeak daniel, i almost miss Sam, 
 almost but not quite!

Afterall, you might not have as much fun if you missed sam,  but you 
dnt! ;D.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
To: dark Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...


Hi Dark,

Just found that Microsoft Mary, Mike and Sam all say you may playt eh markit 
if you own stock,  but you dnt!  I have to say that it is probably 
all my fault.  Left out the apostrophe in don't.  I never caught that because 
I always buy stock.  Sure do miss out on allot of cash if you don't.  You 
know like the gold, oil and the possible cash made when you play the stock.

Pretty funny though about the dnt.

BFN

Jim

I wouldn't even write Email without a spell checker.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
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Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
well thats why I like to use hal over jaws, one thing I like is you can turn 
hotkeys and voice off with a couple keystrokes then go through and process say 
a game or something yet the speech is there on demand.
At 04:59 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
It's not just in games Tom that I find this useful.

in winamp or power dvd I can flick Hal's voice on to deal with config, or 
selecting a new folder to listen to,  then flick it off again and just use 
keyboard commands as normal, without Hal saying X whenever I start Winamp 
playing etc.

Doing this I was able to actually customize power dvd's time skip feature to 
exactly 91 seconds, which very nicely skips the voyager opening theme,   
which I'd otherwise have to sit through many times sinse I've been doing a a 
full watch through of all 7 series (I'm mid way through series six currently).

Pluss, I now know the vastly important information that voyager's opening 
sequence is exactly 92 seconds long,  which obviously was invaluable to 
learn!

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:43 PM
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Hi Dark,
As I said with Window Eyes 7.11 I don't have to unload the screen reader to 
play game x. I just tend to do so for personal reasons. I guess the techie 
side of me. Although, I am glad to know I don't need to unload Window Eyes 
when playing as that does free me up to chat on an instent messenger client 
or check on some task i might be running in the background like a very large 
download.

dark wrote:
funny Tom, I've never felt the need to with hal, and haven't experienced 
slowdown or anything similar.

Indeed, there have been occasions when I've played a bit of a game, flicked 
out of it, turned Hal's voice on to read E-mails or deal with other matters, 
then gone back to the game.

This is especially true of games where I have to wait for some reason,   
like Che martin's card games waiting for new players,   
or even waiting for your character to regain health in technoshock (which 
seems to take ages).

I also flick Hal's voice off when watching dvds for the same reason.

I'd actually miss this feature quite a lot if it wasn't possible to use.

Beware the grue!

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
weird where do you get the say tools from? I have most of the empowermentzone 
tools thanks to top tech tidbits but hmmm.
At 06:32 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
The one thing is I've played around with Jamal Masry's SayTools where you can 
get a program to talk using their screenreaders voice, or sapi if you want to.

Other joke is thought about creating a game using actual jaws scripts, but, 
for example, to generate a random number, you'd have to make a call to an 
external DLL or something.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson 
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games


I've never actually tried using Window-Eyes with Lone Wolf. I tend to use 
Sapi. But I am glad the game offers that option in case I ever decided to mix 
things up a bit for variety. And if I was to start developing games I would 
try to include options for as many screen readers as I could right from the 
outset so as not to seem like I was targetting one specific group of users.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games



Hi Bryan,
Well, don't forget GMA. As of Lonewolf 3.5 the game has Window Eyes  API 
support. That happened because us non-Jaws users nagged David Greenwood 
until he realized not all of his Lonewolf customers are Jaws users, and we 
want the same access to the game as Jaws users. If he could use the JFW API 
for the game he could use the same for Window Eyes too.

In the end he finally added Window Eyes and Sapi 5 support in version 3.5. 
However, that might not have happened if there were not enough non-Jaws 
users to maret such an upgrade. However, this is clearly a good case of how 
the developer uses Jaws, developed the game initially for a Jaws user base, 
and finally was asked to include other screen readers as part of the games 
speech output.

Cases like this sets a president that we can't assume what access 
technology, if any, is present on the target computer. These days it could 
be a free and open source solution like NVDA for all we know. Therefore the 
game itself should provide all that is necessary for providing accessibility 
to itself independant of any specific screen reader or speech software that 
may or may not be present.

Bryan Peterson wrote:
The only company I've seen make allownaces is BSC Games, and that wasn't 
even a game. It was actually one of their Blindsoftware products, that 
Day-by-day Professional which offers support for Window-Eyes. But I still 
don't think they realize how well Window-Eyes meshes with games. I remember 
I forgot to unload WIndow-Eyes, which as I said I still do out of habbit, 
and I played a full game of Classic Pipe and didn't even realize 
Window-Eyes was still running until I'd quit Pipe. That was a welcome 
surprise. So I'm trying to unload Window-Eyes less when I play most audio 
games.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.


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Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
thanks
At 09:52 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
http://www.empowermentzone.com/saysetup.exe

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games


weird where do you get the say tools from? I have most of the empowermentzone 
tools thanks to top tech tidbits but hmmm.
At 06:32 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
The one thing is I've played around with Jamal Masry's SayTools where you 
can get a program to talk using their screenreaders voice, or sapi if you 
want to.

Other joke is thought about creating a game using actual jaws scripts, but, 
for example, to generate a random number, you'd have to make a call to an 
external DLL or something.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson 
bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games


I've never actually tried using Window-Eyes with Lone Wolf. I tend to use 
Sapi. But I am glad the game offers that option in case I ever decided to 
mix things up a bit for variety. And if I was to start developing games I 
would try to include options for as many screen readers as I could right 
from the outset so as not to seem like I was targetting one specific group 
of users.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games



Hi Bryan,
Well, don't forget GMA. As of Lonewolf 3.5 the game has Window Eyes  API 
support. That happened because us non-Jaws users nagged David Greenwood 
until he realized not all of his Lonewolf customers are Jaws users, and we 
want the same access to the game as Jaws users. If he could use the JFW 
API for the game he could use the same for Window Eyes too.

In the end he finally added Window Eyes and Sapi 5 support in version 3.5. 
However, that might not have happened if there were not enough non-Jaws 
users to maret such an upgrade. However, this is clearly a good case of 
how the developer uses Jaws, developed the game initially for a Jaws user 
base, and finally was asked to include other screen readers as part of the 
games speech output.

Cases like this sets a president that we can't assume what access 
technology, if any, is present on the target computer. These days it could 
be a free and open source solution like NVDA for all we know. Therefore 
the game itself should provide all that is necessary for providing 
accessibility to itself independant of any specific screen reader or 
speech software that may or may not be present.

Bryan Peterson wrote:
The only company I've seen make allownaces is BSC Games, and that wasn't 
even a game. It was actually one of their Blindsoftware products, that 
Day-by-day Professional which offers support for Window-Eyes. But I still 
don't think they realize how well Window-Eyes meshes with games. I 
remember I forgot to unload WIndow-Eyes, which as I said I still do out 
of habbit, and I played a full game of Classic Pipe and didn't even 
realize Window-Eyes was still running until I'd quit Pipe. That was a 
welcome surprise. So I'm trying to unload Window-Eyes less when I play 
most audio games.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of 
pizza?
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Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm I like the way jaws handles the web, just like a standard page, also how 
it handles advanced word and excell functions.
However I don't care about how it handles winamp or eudora and some other apps.
At 01:44 p.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
I actually prefer both the way hal Handles virtual focus and screen 
recognition and interaction myself,  I actually found the jaws multiple 
modes system rather confusing.

In Hal for example, it's so natural for me to be in virtual focus for web 
pages, I'm quite familiar with all it's short cuts and nuances, and thus when 
I have to use it for a game like smugglers, or for an unusual application, 
 it's controls for reading and navigation are very familiar,  even if 
the html specific stuff isn't available.

Likewise, I don't mind the double control system either.

These though, are very much simply part of me having been such a long time Hal 
user,  heck, i stil remember when what later became virtual focus and is 
now the dolphin curser was called screen reading mode, and could do nothing 
more than literally read what text was on screen in the currently focused 
window,  and not interact with it,  that was back in Hal version 3.

I was also amused (and a litle disturbed), when Dolphin announced that version 
10 would no longer come with the version four keyset, sinse they felt that 
keyset was no longer needed as keys had been standardized for so long,  
though could stil be dwnloaded from teir sie.

I had to laugh, sinse I stil remember upgrading from version 4 to version 5 9 
years ago,  and after trying the version four keyset, deciding it'd be 
more worth my while to get used to the new version 5 keys than persist with 
the version 4 ones which didn't seem to let me access some of version 5's new 
features.

That's quite scary in a way!

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: peter Mahach piterm...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games


well
let's just say you could call me a screen reader expert or close to that. I 
worked with nearly everything available on windows and had a few experiences 
with orca on the gnome desktop.
when I started out I was running wineyes 4.5 and needless to say the control 
panel was very! confusing,  the option names sorta weird. especially the 
keyboard echo. instead of having 4 levels you have 1 long list with keys, 
words, both and then keys, words and both with out interrupt instead of 
putting these 2 separately.
I also at first had troubles applying changes globally, but as for day to day 
use (when I'm not digging in the thing) window-eyes was all in all a plezent 
experience to work with.
then when I ended up on vista I started to use jaws daily. it was an easier 
thing to learn I'll admit and I got used to it quite a lot.
dolphin's products, hmm. have these at school. I find them weird. the hot 
keys are especially confusing, sometimes requiring left, or specifrically, 
right, control, making me getting hal announcing the key instead of 
performing the function I expected it to do. I do, however, like its... uh. 
what was it called. verbosity schemes I think. it allows full modification of 
just about anything the thing says. for instance I changed it to say 
checked/unchecked instead of its default selected/unselected on checkboxes, 
that sort of thing. I wish though they made a seaprate buffer for msaa 
content instead of using their mouse emulation with some DOM thrown in to do 
the job.
I did also test system access and nvda and I find I don't have to comment, 
the 2 are really nice readers.
sorry if I went off topic at 1 point or another and sorry for the long 
message, and take care!
- Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games


Really? That's a feature I've come to like in JAWS myself.


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Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm I may have an older version but hal does not always show me everything and 
it chooses to crash loads more than jaws.
hal has its uses though.
I suppose I navigate via headdings loads these days.
At 02:29 p.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
Fair enough sean.

I admit, I found the jaws method of totally restructuring web pages not to be 
to my taste at all,  especially for online games which feature links in 
specific places at the top or bottom to be helpful to the player.

I'll also say, it makes things easier when i've got my sighted friends here 
doing things with the mouse, to be able to flick Hal off and on as needed and 
have the screen display web pages,  or indeed anything else, in a way 
which they can also read quite successfully.

I've had some fun playing through online gamebooks like project.aon using 
these methods.

Again though, this is probably just a case of me being much more used to doing 
things with Hal.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games


hmmm I like the way jaws handles the web, just like a standard page, also how 
it handles advanced word and excell functions.
However I don't care about how it handles winamp or eudora and some other 
apps.
At 01:44 p.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
I actually prefer both the way hal Handles virtual focus and screen 
recognition and interaction myself,  I actually found the jaws multiple 
modes system rather confusing.

In Hal for example, it's so natural for me to be in virtual focus for web 
pages, I'm quite familiar with all it's short cuts and nuances, and thus 
when I have to use it for a game like smugglers, or for an unusual 
application,  it's controls for reading and navigation are very 
familiar,  even if the html specific stuff isn't available.

Likewise, I don't mind the double control system either.

These though, are very much simply part of me having been such a long time 
Hal user,  heck, i stil remember when what later became virtual focus 
and is now the dolphin curser was called screen reading mode, and could do 
nothing more than literally read what text was on screen in the currently 
focused window,  and not interact with it,  that was back in Hal 
version 3.

I was also amused (and a litle disturbed), when Dolphin announced that 
version 10 would no longer come with the version four keyset, sinse they 
felt that keyset was no longer needed as keys had been standardized for so 
long,  though could stil be dwnloaded from teir sie.

I had to laugh, sinse I stil remember upgrading from version 4 to version 5 
9 years ago,  and after trying the version four keyset, deciding it'd be 
more worth my while to get used to the new version 5 keys than persist with 
the version 4 ones which didn't seem to let me access some of version 5's 
new features.

That's quite scary in a way!

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games


well
let's just say you could call me a screen reader expert or close to that. I 
worked with nearly everything available on windows and had a few 
experiences with orca on the gnome desktop.
when I started out I was running wineyes 4.5 and needless to say the 
control panel was very! confusing,  the option names sorta weird. 
especially the keyboard echo. instead of having 4 levels you have 1 long 
list with keys, words, both and then keys, words and both with out 
interrupt instead of putting these 2 separately.
I also at first had troubles applying changes globally, but as for day to 
day use (when I'm not digging in the thing) window-eyes was all in all a 
plezent experience to work with.
then when I ended up on vista I started to use jaws daily. it was an easier 
thing to learn I'll admit and I got used to it quite a lot.
dolphin's products, hmm. have these at school. I find them weird. the hot 
keys are especially confusing, sometimes requiring left, or specifrically, 
right, control, making me getting hal announcing the key instead of 
performing the function I expected it to do. I do, however, like its... uh. 
what was it called. verbosity schemes I think. it allows full modification 
of just about anything the thing says. for instance I changed it to say 
checked/unchecked instead of its default selected/unselected on checkboxes, 
that sort of thing. I wish though they made a seaprate buffer for msaa 
content instead of using their mouse emulation with some DOM thrown in to 
do the job.
I did also test system access and nvda and I find I don't have to comment, 
the 2 are really nice readers.
sorry if I went off topic at 1 point or another and sorry for the long 
message, and take care!
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Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools

2009-12-01 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm what about the advanced scripting for advanced users and a menu system 
like addrift, placing objects, moving round to place objects, etc.
At 04:15 p.m. 2/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi all,

I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game 
engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a 
real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like 
scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine 
that takes care of all the groundwork.

However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still a 
scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and 
understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there is 
a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which leads 
me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level tools 
such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based on a 
template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level tool, 
and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time you can 
get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. This way, 
people who are starting out can use these template builder things to make 
something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then as they 
get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they can go in 
and actually modify the game that the template program generated for them.

Any thoughts on this?

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
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Re: [Audyssey] High level game creation tools

2009-12-01 Thread shaun everiss
aah.
well if you find space for me to test I'll give it a shot I know you are full 
right now.
At 05:55 p.m. 2/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,

Yes, such high level tools are definitely on the sketchboard. However I have 
not finalized exactly how they are going to work yet as I am still working on 
the low level stuff, so any ideas are much appreciated at this point.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
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hmmm what about the advanced scripting for advanced users and a menu system 
like addrift, placing objects, moving round to place objects, etc.
At 04:15 p.m. 2/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi all,

I am, as most of you probably already know, working on a scriptable game 
engine that will allow you to make advanced games without having to learn a 
real programming language. All that you have to learn is a basic like 
scripting language, and behind this simple interface sits a powerful engine 
that takes care of all the groundwork.

However, despite all my efforts to make it as simple as possible it is still 
a scripting language which might still be daunting for some to grasp and 
understand. Having followed the recent discussions on list I see that there 
is a lot of interest in something like a sidescroller creation tool, which 
leads me to the following question. Would you people like to see high level 
tools such as a sidescroller builder that basically generates Bgt code based 
on a template? You would have a pretty interface like any other high level 
tool, and you would be able to adjust tons of parameters after which time 
you can get your Bgt code written out in a file ready for use in the engine. 
This way, people who are starting out can use these template builder things 
to make something that is fairly close to what they want to create, and then 
as they get more and more familiar with the workings of the language they 
can go in and actually modify the game that the template program generated 
for them.

Any thoughts on this?

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
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Re: [Audyssey] new chapter added to the game night of parasite

2009-12-02 Thread shaun everiss
thats cool news, I however have never beaten the game.
hmph I'll look at both of these files, I may  create another multilang 
installer again with innosetup 3.6 if I know where I may host the file 
perminantly.

hey everyone!
i'm just posting this message to inform you that Francis Wolf (the
developer of the night of parasite game) as just released the version
3.1, translated to english, with a new chapter added.
i'll first send the link to dropbox,without the installer of the game,
because it seems to be having problems with some antivirus (avast,
avg,etc). but if you prefer to download from the original site, i'll
include the link as well.
so,here are the links:
(game without the installer):
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1652003/Night%20of%20Parasite.zip
(game with the installer):
http://www.xldmrw.cn/up/updown/NOP31.exe
enjoy,and happy gaming!

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[Audyssey] nop3.1 installer

2009-12-02 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
subject says it all.
Thanks to mathias  for shoving me the game I have made an installer with 
innosetup 3.6 and isstool, after doodling round and hacking bits of the script 
its ready.
Installer features.
Should run on any windows version from 95 to whatever.
2.  should not have any images, all background tasks are shown not sure about 
colour.
3.  all pages speak, should work on any processer type though not set anything.
Due to the fact I don't know all info the author has, and other things I have 
included the source in the installed program.
To successfully compile and edit the iss file you will need
isstool and innosetup3.6
get all these from www.innosetup.com
get the startup pack to.
install the pree processer incription and istool.
this program works with all languages or rather a good percentage of them.
This system uses lzma internal and external compression at ultra level.
It doesn't modify anything bar putting an uninstall in the registry.
it does not need any user privilages, yeah anyone can install this program 
anywhere.
Note due to issues with the script I could not configure all the versions etc 
that it would like.
I have also hacked the script so no images are included in the setup.
Now where to put it.
tom is there space to put it on your site?
I'll put it on dropbox for those that care to, but I won't be always online so 
I will have to find another way.
If anyone knows the author, please tell him that his installers are causing all 
these virus things.
However also tell him that I am happy to create installers for his stuff as 
long as I don't have to modify any system files I am not that advanced I have 
just used basic wizzard generaters.
However i will be more than happy to make the installer for him.
he may even use my installer if he wants, the installer is opensource and free 
to use.
the only thing I ask you to do is put the fact the installer was made by using 
a free program and where to get innosetup from.
I don't even want any cash.
 


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[Audyssey] please hold?

2009-12-02 Thread shaun everiss
Hi all.
ok due to the fact I decided to be real smart, and not include a main program 
the stupid file has decided not to  create a main shortcut.
Ok, so this may take some time, I'll tell you when I am actually done i 
prommise.


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[Audyssey] ok its ready I think

2009-12-02 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
Ok, the installer works, everything works.
Note, in some languages where  the program can not register a file you will get 
the english error because of the language not being defind.
these are traditional chinese, japanese and swedish.
other than that though the installer is ready to go.
I will move it to dropbox, however as I said I don't have a server to put it 
on,  so if I can have it on usagamesinteractive or audiogames then cool.


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[Audyssey] installer for nop uploading

2009-12-02 Thread shaun everiss
Hi all.
Ok this is how its gona work.
I am putting the installer on sendspace.
thats only going to last for  a couple weeks, however it should give people 
some time to get it and for who ever wants to host it a chance to put it up 
perminantly, due to my dropbox not always being online and the fact that I am 
using it for pkb mostly as well as other projects well most of the space is 
taken.
the installer will work and the program will run.
Does anyone have an idea how to get passed the cloth man without dieing?
this guy is why I eventually quit the game I could basically get passed the 
major monsters mostly.


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[Audyssey] Fwd: You have uploaded a file (Description: night of parasite innosetup installer)

2009-12-02 Thread shaun everiss
ok guys here is the temp link for the installer.



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Re: [Audyssey] USAGames Server

2009-12-02 Thread shaun everiss
I should also add that if you are over your data cap then you may have issues.
I have got over that by going unlimited ofcause that costs me a little more but 
for what we use it here its worth.
At 04:20 p.m. 3/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Hayri,
I usually get decent upload/download speeds from the server. Can you explain 
how slow are we talking slow on your end?

It could be your internet connection rather than the server, or the server was 
experiencing some heavy bandwidth at the time. USA Games isn't the only 
company to use that server so it could just be some heavy network congestion 
at the time you tried it.

HTH

Hayri Tulumcu wrote:
I just wanted to inform you Thomas about that your server does not have it so 
good and it is slow!
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Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-12-03 Thread shaun everiss
yeah games are secondary, fair enough I suppose.
don't lose heart though, we are not out the woods yet.
I know for example that mushclient can work direct with jaws and windoweyes and 
a map exists for lonewolf in hal 5 and later.
I think though that expecting the manufacturers to make game scripts just won't 
happen, however thats no big concern, all readers, hal, jaws and windoweyes 
have some form of scripting, jaws is scripted and has been for a long time.
windoweyes and hal although they had setting and map files respectively have 
got scripts and people are actively using and developing, true it may cost a 
bit to get the script adition of the software but at the end of the day you 
have the tools.
nvda was made in python and its an opensource system, you can write modules for 
it these are scripts by default.
At 07:22 a.m. 4/12/2009, you wrote:
They'll probably say that it will corrupt the software. Which is a pile of
crap as we all know but that will be their argument. Thus if it were me I'd
just get the system and install it anyway lol. There's always an uninstall
button if they decide to come see you.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games


Hi Charles,
Your guess is as good as mine. I imagine the agencies are primarily 
focussed on work and business so devote all of their funding and 
interests into that endever. They see what they do, trying to get blind 
people employed by giving them computers for work in school, is more 
important than telling their clients that developer x has a few 
accessible games to play. They could, for example, put some free games 
on the system like Jim Kitchens Casino, Life, Monopoly, Hangman, 
whatever as a start, but they won't because it doesn't have anything to 
do with their business software only computers.

Charles Rivard wrote:
 Sighted people have games on their computers, and those games are 
 played.
 That's why gaming is such a big industry.  For the sighted computer user,
a 
 computer is not a work only device.  Why on earth should this not be so
for 
 the blind computer user?  Windows comes with free games, even.  Isn't this
a 
 clue for agencies who buy computers for blind people?  Duh??
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[Audyssey] Re: Can not install Night of Parasi te .

2009-12-03 Thread shaun everiss
yeah the installer is showing as a virus for most av scanners
yesterday I sent a message to the list should be there now with a sendspace 
link of an innosetup installer.
At 06:21 a.m. 4/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi list.
I'm having problems installing Night of Parasite .
When I click on the installer I get an error message, I think it's in Chinese,.
Then the installer closes when I click on okay.
This is what it looks like.

graphic 722  Æô¶¯°²×°³ÌÐòʧ°Ü!
OK 
Anybody know what the problem might be?
Thanks in advance for any help, and take care.
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Re: [Audyssey] sircus mod for sl

2009-12-03 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm I like this already, I currently have the game on the max pain mod but 
when this one comes out I'll switch, a circus manager?
hmmm this will be interesting, hmmm there is a thought you die you get booed 
you win well.
ANd ofcause if you get booed the croud can hit you with bottles or tomatoes or 
something.
At 03:12 a.m. 4/12/2009, you wrote:
HI all
Here is a more detailed sneek preview to my sircus mod I am busy
developing. Here is level1's layout for now:
Big
Spoiler
Space
All the cut sceens will contain my voice as well as cool sircus music
recorded by yours sincerely.
Level1:  welcome to the boswell wilky sircus tent.
Obstacles:
Instead of robotic troopers,  you will face baby donkeys.
They enjoy hot water on their backs, and if you do not splat some  hot
water on them, they will kick you and you will lose a bit of your
health. So instead of shooting the trooppers, you are carrying a self
filling container full of warmwater  with a host pipe in front.  
Instead of the  robodogs, there will be real dogs, poodles to be exact.
Instead of shooting robodogs, you will give a bone to each little sircus
poodle approaching you.
If you do not give them a bone, they will bite you in your leg and you
will lose some health.
Of course, in most levels you will hear your footsteps on tent material.
It will sound as if you are walking in a  huge tent.
Instead of the monkeys dropping coconuts, you will find gorillas
throughout  this level. They sit on chairs hoisted in to the air a
little, these chairs  are made of silver and the guirillas are in fact
tossing coconuts at you and you will lose health if one lands on your
head. For now I am not going to tell you what kind of music will be in
each level, but it will definitely be sircus music.
For each level there will be another kind of sircus music, mainly
showtune and march rhythms.
The teleporter sound as you are getting closer will be a solo trumpet
tune and the music that plays while you are teleporting will be a nice
sircus tune.
IN this sircus mod only the last part of level7 will be a boss level.
The final act of level1 will be a german shepherd riding on a swing high
in the air. AS he descends, he will take a munch at your leg and take
away some health obviously.
The german shepherd does not like warm water, so before he can get too
close to the ground to munch your leg, throw warm water at him until he
jumps off the swing and runs bark-bark to the sircus boss.
Stay tune for level2's layout.
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Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-12-04 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm I can get that side.
my brother is a chronic game player.
he wastes his days playing poker, or battlefield or something after he mangled 
his hand doing battlefield and ra2 all the time he went to poker but he now 
sleeps late gets up later and plays all day.
I know that I can get on a role and play with the pc whilst I really should be 
practicing music, cycling, and other things, people make it out that I am quite 
slack, and I suppose I am quite slack but I think my brother may be a level 
lower, I at least semi do stuff which although its not really doing it is 
better than just slobbing not that at one stage I was like this.
I think as blind people we seem to stay with what we know, I like my computer, 
its my comunication its my plaything especially when its my self thats left at 
home for most of the day.
And its my god, ooops
issue is now I really need to manage time, because I am now a lazy prick, I 
promise I will get it one of these days the question is when.
Games can be also a danger.
Its when you are plain forbidden from playing games for any reason religious or 
otherwise, or just bard for using a computer or doing something because you are 
blind or because you do as you are told.
I know my family wish I would do more and will nagg me constantly but they 
won't bar me I don't think, though they keep warning me I will have a boring 
life after they go and They keep telling me hoping I will get the message, and 
I suppose I will eventually have to do something about this.
Hmmm this chair is so soft snore
later
At 12:46 a.m. 5/12/2009, you wrote:
Well yes games are secondary nobody is arguing that, that's not even an
issue. I mean you aren't going to make a living out of playing games.
Although it would be nice though But it's this rather stupid mentality
of oh games aren't meant for computers or blind people shouldn't be playing
games that's what I think is wrong. I mean we all need some form of
enjoyment or stress relief at the end of the day for what ever reason. I
mean, what's better, playing games, drinking or smoking yourself to death?
Because people will find an outlet somewhere and I think gaming is much more
healthy in the long run.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: 04 December 2009 00:59
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games


yeah games are secondary, fair enough I suppose.
don't lose heart though, we are not out the woods yet.
I know for example that mushclient can work direct with jaws and windoweyes
and a map exists for lonewolf in hal 5 and later. I think though that
expecting the manufacturers to make game scripts just won't happen, however
thats no big concern, all readers, hal, jaws and windoweyes have some form
of scripting, jaws is scripted and has been for a long time. windoweyes and
hal although they had setting and map files respectively have got scripts
and people are actively using and developing, true it may cost a bit to get
the script adition of the software but at the end of the day you have the
tools. nvda was made in python and its an opensource system, you can write
modules for it these are scripts by default. At 07:22 a.m. 4/12/2009, you
wrote:
They'll probably say that it will corrupt the software. Which is a pile 
of crap as we all know but that will be their argument. Thus if it were 
me I'd just get the system and install it anyway lol. There's always an 
uninstall button if they decide to come see you.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 03 December 2009 17:27
To: Charles Rivard; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games


Hi Charles,
Your guess is as good as mine. I imagine the agencies are primarily
focussed on work and business so devote all of their funding and 
interests into that endever. They see what they do, trying to get blind 
people employed by giving them computers for work in school, is more 
important than telling their clients that developer x has a few 
accessible games to play. They could, for example, put some free games 
on the system like Jim Kitchens Casino, Life, Monopoly, Hangman, 
whatever as a start, but they won't because it doesn't have anything to 
do with their business software only computers.

Charles Rivard wrote:
 Sighted people have games on their computers, and those games are
 played.
 That's why gaming is such a big industry.  For the sighted computer user,
a
 computer is not a work only device.  Why on earth should this not be 
 so
for
 the blind computer user?  Windows comes with free games, even.  Isn't 
 this
a
 clue for agencies who buy computers for blind people?  Duh??
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[Audyssey] bits and bobs

2009-12-04 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
night of parasite 3.1 installer is avalible on dropbox.
warning! this is far from perminant.
Due to testing with mainly pkb and other things the dropbox is quite full, if 
the size goes over 2gb I will start deleting things, so be warned the public 
file is not perminant by any means.
I will keep this up as long as I can.
however note that since this is a remote system its not going to stay up all 
day, and its not always going to be up.
if the link does not work try again later.
note.
betwene 9 pm and 8 am I will be sleeping, otherwise it should be up previded 
the following conditions don't happen.
1.  the network is not being used for anything else.
therea are  3 systems on the network and they do get used.
I can't hog upstream.
2.  I am out, since I was hacked a couple years ago generally I do keep the 
system on whilst in the house.
but if not in the house or away for a long time the system goes off.
I may be doing repair work on other computers, with no active connection.
if someone wants to host this perminantly then go nock yourselves out.
The installer is part of the file, so  go nuts with the code.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/nop31setup.exe


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Re: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, improvements, suggestions

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
yeah I aggree with you.
I like shooting people.
ofcause those games where you do that in free stress.
would I do it in real life, no I would not.
 for starters it would ruin my life.
and second its just  sad and sucky to have to get to that level.
However children shouldn't play sod for instance or people that are hmmm well 
not right in the head.
that is why we have a ratings system for most stuff games included.
Now thats how far companies need to go.
now if someone does this and has been warned its their problem.
or should be their problem, but its usually the company thats blamed or 
something like that.
At 12:31 a.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:

Which is exactly my point. I play a game to escape real life i don't treat a 
game like real life. I think people who treat games as such must live a very 
sad existence indeed. Sorry but i really do think that. 
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, 
improvements,suggestions
From: Mauricio Almeida mauricio...@uol.com.br
Date: 05:12:2009 10.57 am

darren.
PVP on miriani is managable if you are a palyer who actually tries to
grow on the game, instead of one who whines and screams all the time. I
have been there for almost thee years now,, and i actually handle things
quite well.while miriani is yes  a game of pvp, it is not all that. it
is about real life, which makes it fun, what i mean is, it enables you
to actually challenge yourself, gaining power, and yet treating it like
a game. while i do think some players there , fails in life, llets say,
since i cant send them where iw ish on this list, i dont wine a bout it,
i deffend myself as i can and make them stop targetting me, as they get
bored. most of the people who do not like miriani, do so bedause they
never succeed on the game, with the exception of one or two people, who
actually played and didnt like it. now, about cosmos, i didn't really
play it to actually check what was going on, exactly because it was
very, very similar to miriani once it started, and i thought it would be
a silly, weird, copy. however, as i have been talking to tristan last
couple of weeks, he has been explaining me how the game is, and yes, i
will give it a chance and comment once i did so.

regards,

mauricio aka sebastian hadford.
-Mensagem original-
De: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com
Para: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Data: Sabado, 5 de Dezembro de 2009 10:22
Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, 
improvements,suggestions

Yeah the pvp in that game goes way to far people take it way too seriously
instead of treating it like a game. Which is sad really. A game is meant to
be a game not real life.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Matheus
Sent: 05 December 2009 10:44
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, improvements,
suggestions


hey man.
well. the only thing that i think should be changed it's because, as many
others have said, the game is very similar to miriani.. although i like it,
i've plaied miriani for 2 years. and i didn't left it for pvp reasons, i
know that the pvp in cosmos is a bit reduced and you have more chance to
play instead of fighting other players. in this case, if you want to make or
continue with it, even with all these similarities, you will have to make a
interesting game. take for example the thing that mike, ryan, etc developed
with humanitymoo. it was a mix between miriani and hellmoo. it was
interesting, on my opinion. because you could do ground combat missions,
gain money from that, then take your ship in the space, do some other
missions, etc. if you add these things, or different things to add more
variety to the game, it will be much better. thanks. -Mensagem
original-
De: Tristan B theblinddj...@gmail.com
Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Data: Sabado, 5 de Dezembro de 2009 02:25
Assunto: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, improvements,
suggestions

Hello,
This is Tristan here. I'm sure most of you know me well.

I run Trek Games.net Inc. Now, which is accompanied by my MUD (or MOO) (in
short, a text-based game with sound packs, add-ons, and the like) Cosmos, is
now managed
by Trek Games. It has come a long way in two years -- from the one year in
2007 I spent devoted to just coming up with ideas for it, then in the
beginning of 2,008
putting those ideas into code.

So now we are reaching a 3.5 year project, and the game is near 290 players,
but only nearly 70 are active within a 1 month period or so. I want to get
oppinions,
what everyone thinks, what I should do to improve the game, how I can fix
things to make your experience better, what isn't fun about the game, etc,
etc, etc. A game will get nowhere if it has no testers. After being two
years in beta, Cosmos is now just starting to flourish.

This is coming from just the main admin of the game. You can 

Re: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, improvements, suggestions

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
miriani was good when I played but I  never got on enough.
THe net was slow and well.
Things cost to much, once I got lucky, found a friend that got me 20 million 
bucks straight into my account.
however I spent 10 mil on a hauler, and 10 mil on my debt for things and I had 
a couple mil and got a suite and bag and shirt and a com and a few other things.
I never progressed and never made my way.
I recreated my char and never got really anywhere, got bored and left.
I was hopeless in combat, never was able to fight.
Core exiles is a bit better but still I actually have issues, I am now in a 
guild now, but I still have a ways off before I can get anywhere.
At 04:03 a.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:
I used to play Miriani and I succeeded in it. I think the game is useless
and a bore for the PVP although I was not focused on was ridiculous and
waste of time. If a game is going to thrive you need balance. I tell
everyone I know an meet to stay away from that place. That is my own
personal opinion. Hey if you think that while as a newbie once he newbie
flag is removed and you get your ships blown up over and over is fun well
then congratulations. Again for me I play star conquest and cosmos and would
play cosmos as a backup much more if there combat was better. If Miriani was
the last mud on earth and I had to choose between that and chewing bark of a
tree or playing hat mud, I would chew bark.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Mauricio Almeida
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:57 AM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments,
improvements,suggestions

darren.
PVP on miriani is managable if you are a palyer who actually tries to
grow on the game, instead of one who whines and screams all the time. I
have been there for almost thee years now,, and i actually handle things
quite well.while miriani is yes  a game of pvp, it is not all that. it
is about real life, which makes it fun, what i mean is, it enables you
to actually challenge yourself, gaining power, and yet treating it like
a game. while i do think some players there , fails in life, llets say,
since i cant send them where iw ish on this list, i dont wine a bout it,
i deffend myself as i can and make them stop targetting me, as they get
bored. most of the people who do not like miriani, do so bedause they
never succeed on the game, with the exception of one or two people, who
actually played and didnt like it. now, about cosmos, i didn't really
play it to actually check what was going on, exactly because it was
very, very similar to miriani once it started, and i thought it would be
a silly, weird, copy. however, as i have been talking to tristan last
couple of weeks, he has been explaining me how the game is, and yes, i
will give it a chance and comment once i did so.

regards,

mauricio aka sebastian hadford.
-Mensagem original-
De: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com
Para: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Data: Sabado, 5 de Dezembro de 2009 10:22
Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments,
improvements,suggestions

Yeah the pvp in that game goes way to far people take it way too seriously
instead of treating it like a game. Which is sad really. A game is meant to
be a game not real life.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Matheus
Sent: 05 December 2009 10:44
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, improvements,
suggestions


hey man.
well. the only thing that i think should be changed it's because, as many
others have said, the game is very similar to miriani.. although i like it,
i've plaied miriani for 2 years. and i didn't left it for pvp reasons, i
know that the pvp in cosmos is a bit reduced and you have more chance to
play instead of fighting other players. in this case, if you want to make or
continue with it, even with all these similarities, you will have to make a
interesting game. take for example the thing that mike, ryan, etc developed
with humanitymoo. it was a mix between miriani and hellmoo. it was
interesting, on my opinion. because you could do ground combat missions,
gain money from that, then take your ship in the space, do some other
missions, etc. if you add these things, or different things to add more
variety to the game, it will be much better. thanks. -Mensagem
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De: Tristan B theblinddj...@gmail.com
Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Data: Sabado, 5 de Dezembro de 2009 02:25
Assunto: [Audyssey] TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, improvements,
suggestions

Hello,
This is Tristan here. I'm sure most of you know me well.

I run Trek Games.net Inc. Now, which is accompanied by my MUD (or MOO) (in
short, a text-based game with sound packs, add-ons, and the like) Cosmos, is
now managed
by Trek Games. It has come a long way in two years -- 

Re: [Audyssey] Visit Salem

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
all these games you are doing sound real good, will these be sold or what.
I'd like to contribute in some way, testing or something sounds real good.
At 05:43 a.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:
Phil,

Yes. The audio files could be bundled separately. Though they total about 6 
hours of playing time and 450 Mb of disk space.
The music, interviews and voiceovers are in mp3 files.
The Salem March is a midi.
The incidental sounds (sea gulls, crowds, fireworks, etc) are wav's.

Certainly a player could be programmed.
Or one could just play them on their computer.

David, our writer, deliberately scripted the voiceovers to include visual 
descriptions of the monuments, buildings, etc. so that later they would work 
for people who are blind.

What I personally want to do is make this into the first truly accessible 
travelogue.
But that's going to take some work.
And that's not likely to happen until this summer at earliest.
If my group gives me the time.

John
www.7128.com


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Re: [Audyssey] Klango

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
www.klango.net is the website.
At 07:15 a.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:
How do I download the klango client from? I tried and just went around in a
circle trying to download it.

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Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: You have uploaded a file (Description: night of parasite innosetup installer)

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
weird.
what happens when you run it.
the requirements are like real low.
I have xpsp3 here.
I tested the game and it worked fine on here.
so should work there.
I don't know if nop 2.4 put stuff in registry.
hmmm doesn't look like it.
what does it do.
what system do you have.
this system will run on 98 or higher, and thats about it.
what do you mean it won't run.
I have directx 8 and 9 here, dotnet and loads of other libs but I don't know 
what is waht its all internal I don't know if it uses external files or what.
go start programs night of parasite then click that.
if you get a security box select the checkbox and then run.
this game was loaded with no privs on it.

I need to check if anyone else has this issue.

At 09:22 a.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:
hey shaun,
how come NOP doesn't work?
I can install the game, but then I can't run it

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[Audyssey] Fwd: Re: Fwd: You have uploaded a file (Description: night of parasite innosetup installer)

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
Hi all.
this message below is f a person that has issues with the installer.
has anyone got an issue loading the game then running it.
does the game run at all.
I have it set to load with out any privs.
I have run this system myself but I have dotnet 1 2 3.5 dx9c nov vc08 and 05 
and a host of other libs on all the systems so I can just about run anything i 
want.
does the installer care if you had nop 2.4 or not.
does the installer need any extras.

is something wrong.
I need feedback guys.
the game should run on every system from win95 to vista and beyond.
on that note is there an issue because on vista it runs in program files.
if so I will make a folder where it just installs to the root directory or 
something.
however I'd prefur that I did not have a seperate installer.
same again if you need privs then tell me I can say you need to be standard 
admin, or I could just make the installer without the extra hacks I did to it.
I like the installer myself but if anyone has an issue they can try to make 
their own and shove it up.
the game should run, its good to note the installer loaded it all ok.
if you need to move the folder somewhere then thats good I guess just move the 
shortcuts.
get back to me.

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hey shaun,
how come NOP doesn't work?
I can install the game, but then I can't run it

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[Audyssey] nop31 installer

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
Hi all.
after some tests I have  discovered some bugs with the current installer.
the main one is  the privilages.
If you install the game on  your system and you are a limited user, either 
install as admin or you won't be able to uninstall.
if you load it on limited user you will not have  any control in another user 
or admin.
though I never tested that part.
you will not have access to programm files on limited user.
I will be recompiling the installer so it runs with admin privs only.
I will also be making an installer for vista users or those that don't want to 
use program files.
the scripts will be included.
vista installers for those that have uac will be installed to c:\nop or 
something like that.
I could access the root of the drive, however if you have any issue you should 
be able to change where things go.
I don't know how to detect  if you are in an non admin account or not.
the installer will be deleted once I have another installer uploaded to the 
server.

keep getting the installer right now I will have a new build of the installer 
up soon.
However there should not be an issue with running the game note that I have not 
got a system to test uac or anything like that.
if anyone knows how to sign an installer that would rock but for now.



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[Audyssey] nop3.1

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
Hi all.
Ok.
the old file is being removed.
or rather has been.
you will need winzip, the file is 60mb or so.
in it there are 2 installers.
now you will need admin for these installers.
installer1.
nop31vistasetup.exe
this will install in the root of the c drive.
you will need admin but you should be able to run it from the  menu as normal.
nop31xpsetup.exe
you will be able to  run from  the menus but it installs in program files as 
normal.
Other notes.
this version has the readme and guide in the files.
it also is more complete.
The good point is that now when ever a new version is made of nop I will just 
need the binaries and then I can change the scripts.
if anyone that knows innosetup knows how to do the list of things   that are 
below please get back to me.

detect os, and what section to put it in.
detect account, yeah I know I can have min windows version and allow admin but 
right now I can't put something in c:\users\ whatever unless its broused to 
probably not important.
how to sign apps and if it is more trouble than worth.
the installers will be up in a bit and I will upload a file at that time, I 
mean a link.
I have tried on here on different accounts and in all cases the programs have 
run.
if anyone tries now and even on admin still finds programs don't run then the 
best bet is getting the author to adjust his installer, his email address is in 
the program and I may email him with the offer to create the installers for him 
if he wants to host the files, or give him program links to get things.
I would much better have this stuff hosted somewhere.
on that note did anyone host nop 2.4 when I asked for it.
I think it was on audiogames or maybe another server.
brandoncole or something don't know.
Forgot.
could that person email me if they want to host the stuff?
right now the file is about 64mb in size, once I have figured out what is 
happening I hope to just have 32mb.
thanks.


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[Audyssey] game up

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
ok guys here is the big scary file.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/nop31.zip
remember, that vistasetup will put things in your root drive
xpsetup will do as normal.
you will need admin rights for both these.
I have no idea why the program will not run as I tried another account.
I have also emailed the author about the installers, so lets see if I will do 
this full time.
I have a list of other stuff in the pipe I have emailed the author about doing 
to if he wishes.
I have also emailed my source scripts to the author to.
You will need to use winzip to get the file extracted.
or whatever then select what you want.
please send feedback at me, not able to tell you why the game does not run but 
the installers should work now at least I think they will.


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Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Re: Fwd: You have uploaded a file (Description: night of parasite innosetup installer)

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm you need your reader.
the game does not start right away you need to go file and hit new.
I suppose you could get stuff accessible with notkeys but i honestly have not 
tried them.
At 11:51 a.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi all,

Perhaps this is me being very dim, but I can't get NOP to do much yet.
 It did install fine or seemed too, when I run it from the start menu
I get 30 seconds of music or so, that all ends fine but I can't get
any keys to do anything.

Jaws is asleep, so that shouldn't be the issue.  I'd check the help,
but there doesn't seem to be any installed.

Any tips apreciated...
Scott

On 12/5/09, Ryan Chou rc4896...@gmail.com wrote:
 okay here's what it says
 Windows cannot access the specified device, path, or file.  You may
 not have the appropriate permissions to access the item.
 and this is my admin account
 could AVG be stopping it?

 On 12/5/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi all.
 this message below is f a person that has issues with the installer.
 has anyone got an issue loading the game then running it.
 does the game run at all.
 I have it set to load with out any privs.
 I have run this system myself but I have dotnet 1 2 3.5 dx9c nov vc08 and
 05
 and a host of other libs on all the systems so I can just about run
 anything
 i want.
 does the installer care if you had nop 2.4 or not.
 does the installer need any extras.

 is something wrong.
 I need feedback guys.
 the game should run on every system from win95 to vista and beyond.
 on that note is there an issue because on vista it runs in program files.
 if so I will make a folder where it just installs to the root directory or
 something.
 however I'd prefur that I did not have a seperate installer.
 same again if you need privs then tell me I can say you need to be
 standard
 admin, or I could just make the installer without the extra hacks I did to
 it.
 I like the installer myself but if anyone has an issue they can try to
 make
 their own and shove it up.
 the game should run, its good to note the installer loaded it all ok.
 if you need to move the folder somewhere then thats good I guess just move
 the shortcuts.
 get back to me.

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hey shaun,
how come NOP doesn't work?
I can install the game, but then I can't run it

On 12/2/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 ok guys here is the temp link for the installer.



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Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Re: Fwd: You have uploaded a file (Description: night of parasite innosetup installer)

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
weird.
I have microsoft security.
and although it stopped the installer it did not stop the game.
did this happen once you installed and then ran from the program group or 
directly?
are you using vista?
looks like windows can't read something, when does this error come, at program 
run, does music play?
do you have issues with sound?
do any of the files play?
could be a codec problem, get and install the klite mega codec pack in default 
mode and try again this thing does do mp3s.
no one bar you seems to be having issues with the game.
Turn avg off and try again.
but as I said avg would probably come up.
ms has not stopped me running the game.
its protection is active

just did a scan and nothing is going on.
did you install to the default drive and directory
uninstall get my installer at
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/nop31.zip
unzip then run one of the 2 installers, try the vistasetup first and see if it 
runs.

if you installed it to an external device try loading it to the default.
do a chkdsk c: /f on the c drive or whatever drive is your os drive reboot and 
after scan is done try again.
defrag your drive.
chkdsk should fix this.
It looks like either the drive is bad, windows can't find the file or something 
nothing here is going on and in fact you look to be the only one that  has this 
issue.
Its sertainly not my installer thats doing this although I have fixed a few 
bugs in the code.
did you run night of parasite 2.4 ok and did it work.
did it ever work?
YOu probably have some sort of drive or audio file error or something.
I have no idea what could be going wrong.
a chkdsk will probably fix any errors if there are any, but if the drive is 
doing other weird things it may be on the way out.
the folder and file should work ok.
admin should have all the permitions but then I have no idea what your os is I 
can not test for vista right now but hmph.
if anyone else is having this issue I may have to tell the vista installer to 
not install on 9x versions, and to only load on vista and up, but that means 
more checking.
do you have the latest updates for your os?
service packs, etc.
this may be the issue to.

have any other programs done this?
does anyone else have this issue.
if so I will rewrite the vista installer but that means reuploading the entire 
archive.
heck I know it works, I'll do that anyway.
but that will be it I think.


At 11:17 a.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:
okay here's what it says
Windows cannot access the specified device, path, or file.  You may
not have the appropriate permissions to access the item.
and this is my admin account
could AVG be stopping it?

On 12/5/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi all.
 this message below is f a person that has issues with the installer.
 has anyone got an issue loading the game then running it.
 does the game run at all.
 I have it set to load with out any privs.
 I have run this system myself but I have dotnet 1 2 3.5 dx9c nov vc08 and 05
 and a host of other libs on all the systems so I can just about run anything
 i want.
 does the installer care if you had nop 2.4 or not.
 does the installer need any extras.

 is something wrong.
 I need feedback guys.
 the game should run on every system from win95 to vista and beyond.
 on that note is there an issue because on vista it runs in program files.
 if so I will make a folder where it just installs to the root directory or
 something.
 however I'd prefur that I did not have a seperate installer.
 same again if you need privs then tell me I can say you need to be standard
 admin, or I could just make the installer without the extra hacks I did to
 it.
 I like the installer myself but if anyone has an issue they can try to make
 their own and shove it up.
 the game should run, its good to note the installer loaded it all ok.
 if you need to move the folder somewhere then thats good I guess just move
 the shortcuts.
 get back to me.

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[Audyssey] test installer

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
this archive reupload does not apply to everyone.
nop31v2setup.exe is a test build with all the win9x and all the nt code 
stripped out of it.
it will only run on vista and up but honestly I don't think this should make 
any difference.
there is no reason for this thing to not work as the xpsetup using it on xp but 
I may have to make a test build of the file for that to the way things are 
going.
this really shouldn't matter.
grrr.
if anyone else has any errors please reply to this message.
ryan I  c I have no idea what is causing this error.
but its definately not my code.
if you have xp, tell me and I will make a test file for you and you can get it.
but really this shouldn't fall over.
Ofcause if I do make another test file the archive will become even bigger.
I could make another test I suppose and ignore win9x totally but right now 
everyone seems to be using this.
what I may do is try this now, it will be a seperate file, I won't be zipping 
it up again and then I will just see.
however this is the last test build.
if all the issues work out I will reduce the setup to the main file and people 
will have to select their own folders, but hmph.  I won't be making 2-4 
installers every version, its the principal of it.



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[Audyssey] ok this is it

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
hi all.
if you have the archive don't bother getting it again.
if you have not get it again.
the v2.exe is a test file.
the next link the second link is a test build for ryan c.
but seriously I do hope this is not going ot be a waste.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/nop31.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/nop31setup%20with%20no%209x%20code.exe

ryan c
the bellow link is a test file it loads in program files by default but you can 
select this.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/setup.exe
run this program  if nothing else works.
if this does not work for you then you may have something else wrong for the 
rest.
Don't get this last link, its the test program script for innosetup.
Ryan if this does work, then I will recompile the setup without any isstool 
hacks just using the base wizzard.
if this does not work, I may have to try with iexpress or just zip the file but 
this is real odd.


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Re: [Audyssey] test installer

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
ok.
run all the installers again except the vista installer do any of them get the 
game running.
does the test program installer run does the test program run.
get back to me.
if this works I will do one more compile.
this will have no isstool hacking in it  and no processed text.
no preprocesser defs or anything.
if that does not work not sure what will.
I'll even shove the compression some.

At 05:21 p.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:
I'm using XP

On 12/5/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi.
 this archive reupload does not apply to everyone.
 nop31v2setup.exe is a test build with all the win9x and all the nt code
 stripped out of it.
 it will only run on vista and up but honestly I don't think this should make
 any difference.
 there is no reason for this thing to not work as the xpsetup using it on xp
 but I may have to make a test build of the file for that to the way things
 are going.
 this really shouldn't matter.
 grrr.
 if anyone else has any errors please reply to this message.
 ryan I  c I have no idea what is causing this error.
 but its definately not my code.
 if you have xp, tell me and I will make a test file for you and you can get
 it.
 but really this shouldn't fall over.
 Ofcause if I do make another test file the archive will become even bigger.
 I could make another test I suppose and ignore win9x totally but right now
 everyone seems to be using this.
 what I may do is try this now, it will be a seperate file, I won't be
 zipping it up again and then I will just see.
 however this is the last test build.
 if all the issues work out I will reduce the setup to the main file and
 people will have to select their own folders, but hmph.  I won't be making
 2-4 installers every version, its the principal of it.



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Re: [Audyssey] test installer

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm turn off avg and try the xp one again.
this is real strange.
maybe avg is the problem, try scanning the installer, though that may not tell 
you anything.
looks like the game will install but  won't run at all.
At 05:36 p.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:
could it be AVG that's the problem?
and both the XP and the other one don't work

On 12/5/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 ok.
 run all the installers again except the vista installer do any of them get
 the game running.
 does the test program installer run does the test program run.
 get back to me.
 if this works I will do one more compile.
 this will have no isstool hacking in it  and no processed text.
 no preprocesser defs or anything.
 if that does not work not sure what will.
 I'll even shove the compression some.

 At 05:21 p.m. 6/12/2009, you wrote:
I'm using XP

On 12/5/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi.
 this archive reupload does not apply to everyone.
 nop31v2setup.exe is a test build with all the win9x and all the nt code
 stripped out of it.
 it will only run on vista and up but honestly I don't think this should
 make
 any difference.
 there is no reason for this thing to not work as the xpsetup using it on
 xp
 but I may have to make a test build of the file for that to the way
 things
 are going.
 this really shouldn't matter.
 grrr.
 if anyone else has any errors please reply to this message.
 ryan I  c I have no idea what is causing this error.
 but its definately not my code.
 if you have xp, tell me and I will make a test file for you and you can
 get
 it.
 but really this shouldn't fall over.
 Ofcause if I do make another test file the archive will become even
 bigger.
 I could make another test I suppose and ignore win9x totally but right
 now
 everyone seems to be using this.
 what I may do is try this now, it will be a seperate file, I won't be
 zipping it up again and then I will just see.
 however this is the last test build.
 if all the issues work out I will reduce the setup to the main file and
 people will have to select their own folders, but hmph.  I won't be
 making
 2-4 installers every version, its the principal of it.



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[Audyssey] last installer

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
ok, ok.
this is it.
I am uploading an installer with no processing, no extra addons and nothing.
this is definately it.
The game works why it does not run on ryan's system is beyond me but its not my 
installer.
ryan turn off avg shield and try running the game.
if that does not work, try a chkdsk on the drive if that does not work.
hmmmdo a defrag.
do a spybot or other antispyware scan.
clear your caches.
if that does not work, reformat.
If after a reformat that does not work then I think something maybe the main 
board or hdd is bad.
does anything else work?
everyone else has virus software and it works.
something weird is going on.


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[Audyssey] nop31

2009-12-05 Thread shaun everiss
Hi all.
ok this is the final installer version.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/nop31.exe
there will not be any more.
this has no mods not even optional ones.
ryan you could have a drive error or something but since no one else has this 
issue I can't help.
I can  rebuild my code only so much before I get sick of it which I now am.


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Re: [Audyssey] Nop virus trouble?

2009-12-06 Thread shaun everiss
hmph.
well I have emailed the author  about it.
so hopefully he fixes this or something.
or I get my installers working I don't mind making em.

At 11:04 a.m. 7/12/2009, you wrote:
All of the installers (at least for me) say something about invalind sourse
code or something regarding the apliciation itself.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:34 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Nop virus trouble?

Hello. 

I've finally got around to giving nop a try, but Avg doesn't seem to like
the file at all, sinse the web shield thinks it's a trogeon. 

I've been busy with my parents staying for the last few days,  and with
matters on the entombed list, so haven't bee keeping up with things here as
much as I should. 

I did see several E-mails from Sean mentioning a fixed installer,  if
that solves the problem that'd be great! 

Could you please repost the link. Also, if perminant hosting is possible
I'll add it to the audiogames.net index page for Nop. 

Beware the grue! 

Dark.
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[Audyssey] mota spikes

2009-12-08 Thread shaun everiss
Ok what do I do about the spikes?
I have 2 to jump over I got as close as I dared and jumped but I still died.
Good game though now I am off to bed I have been up since 8 am


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Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: new game on GW Micro script central

2009-12-08 Thread shaun everiss
oh man.
we are getting better and better.
games inside the reader, games built in to the app.
fancy.
At 02:11 a.m. 9/12/2009, you wrote:
Hello all. If you are a Window-Eyes user, you might be interested in the 
following. You need to have the current version of Window-Eyes for this to 
work since 7.0 and above support scripting. The current version of Window-Eyes 
is 7.11 and if you have 7.0 or anything in between, the upgrade to 7.11 is 
free. To download the following script/game, go to 
www.gwmicro.com/scriptcentral and get it there. You don't need to have an 
account to download a Window-Eyes script, but if you have one, you can rate 
any script, comment on it and much more. Here is the information.

Original Message

From:   Jeff Weiss  jnwe...@lwsb.org




I just posted a new game to script central
Lunar Lander.
Some of you may remember this from the Apple II e days.
The help text from the script follows:

Press Control-Alt-Shift-L to play the LunarLander game.
You are landing on the moon and have taken over manual control
500 feet above the surface of the moon.
You have a downward velocity of 50 feet per second
and you have 120 units of fuel remaining.
Your objective is to land softly on the moon and still have fuel remaining.
To do this, you must burn fuel at a rate which will slow you down,
but not exhaust the fuel too early!
Unfortunately, you cannot burn fuel at a constant rate and accomplish your 
objective.
If you burn the same amout of fuel twice in a row, you will forfeit 1 unit of 
fuel!
you can burn from 1 to 30 units of fuel at a time!
You need to land with a downward velocity of 10 feet per second or less!
Enter letter r alone to repeat your current status.
Good luck!

Try it out and let me know if there are any problems.
Jeff Weiss



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Re: [Audyssey] Night of parasite.

2009-12-08 Thread shaun everiss
select the sheet then hit q
At 03:51 a.m. 9/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi list.
How do you read the code sheet?
I've gotten as far as the machinery door, but cant figure out how to read the 
code sheet to type it in.
I looked at everything under help but didn't see it.
Thanks in advance.
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[Audyssey] mota issue with chasm

2009-12-08 Thread shaun everiss
ok guys found my way passed the spikes.
I pulled one lever in level2 but nothing else.
I find the chasm.
I know there needs to be a bridge because  I heard about it on here.
I used the view command to find it I bumped into a wall and looked.
I have not found the bridge.


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[Audyssey] mine sweeper

2009-12-08 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
fransis wolf has made a mine sweeper.
as usual however  you can't install it because msse says its a virus or 
something.
does someone have the binary, I'll do another innosetup of this thing and have 
it up in a bit.
I know one person has an issue but no one else does so.
 mathias if you have this to can hou dropbox the zip at me and I will make the 
setup and put it back up.


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Re: [Audyssey] mota issue with chasm

2009-12-08 Thread shaun everiss
I had a torch lit I viewed the wall after the spikes.
is it on another wall?
At 04:54 p.m. 9/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Hint. Did you try viewing the wall with aburning torch lit?

Cheers!

shaun everiss wrote:
ok guys found my way passed the spikes.
I pulled one lever in level2 but nothing else.
I find the chasm.
I know there needs to be a bridge because  I heard about it on here.
I used the view command to find it I bumped into a wall and looked.
I have not found the bridge.


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[Audyssey] tweatstones

2009-12-09 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
the game is mentioned on www.randylaptop.com
the direct link is
http://www.twitter.com/tweetstones
this is a twitter game which is accessible.


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Re: [Audyssey] ending bosses in games

2009-12-10 Thread shaun everiss
well its hard enough, saying that if you get a blade its dead easy.
If you let em attack you well.
if the boss could run at you, maybe jump over you avoid some of your swings 
that kind of thing but I can't think of what else I could do for the bosses.
At 07:29 a.m. 11/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Yohandy,
Got any ideas in mind how to make the bosses more interactive in MOTA? It is, 
as you said, too much like run at it and shoot it which often isn't 
challenging at all. The only factor in determining if you beat one so far is 
how much ammo you have.

Yohandy wrote:
I too agree. bosses really need to be more interactive in audiogames. not 
just run straight at it and shoot it. I really like q9 and super Liam, but in 
both games the first thing that came to mind when I got to the boss was ok 
let me try shooting it. and guess what? it worked like a charm. we really 
need a lot more uniqueness to the bosses. I think it would've been so awesome 
if you beat super Liam, and the credits rolled as usual. then right in the 
middle of the credits the boss got right back up, laughed and resumed 
attacking you right when you were distracted. except this time he was way 
harder to beat. that would've been so cool.


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Re: [Audyssey] Saving Games in MOTA

2009-12-10 Thread shaun everiss
tom why don't you put those in a faq somewhere.
on that note I thik this list should have a faq if it doesn't have one already 
most news groups do have a faq.
At 07:57 a.m. 11/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Willem,
Yeah, unfortunately it does seam like I have to answer the same questions over 
and over again. Between too lists, a general FAQ on the web site, some times 
the question or questions are bound to come up time after time for one reason 
or another. That's just one of the things all developers have to deal with 
when they put out any piece of software. There is simply no way to tell 
everyone the necessary information at one time, or that the person knows how 
or were to look for the answers such as mail archives, on line FAQ, whatever. 
Some, unfortunately, are a bit lazy and don't look up information even though 
it might be write in the manual on line such and such. That is life I guess.

*Smile*


Willem wrote:
Mike, I don't know how long you have been on this list and other lists where 
Mysteries of the aintients is discussed, but the same questions and things 
get brought up over and over. Thomas then has to repeat over and over why 
something won't work or why he doesn't want to implement it. I don't even 
want to know what his personal inbox looks like! It's just that there are 
about a million simple requests coming in while Thomas clearly and 
repeatedly stated that he won't be adding new features and he is moving into 
the final phases of the beta.

You could simply say your post was the final straw. In fact the same question 
about loading and saving was asked two days ago and Thomas then also 
explained why he won't put it into the demo. It makes logical sense. Have you 
played any of the audio games, barring entombed, which is a different kind of 
game, where you could save? This is why it is a demo. You can look at all the 
gma game engine games, monkey business and many other examples. The demo, 
even a beta, can't contain all the features of the full release.


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Re: [Audyssey] just wondering if the usa games websight is down?

2009-12-10 Thread shaun everiss
its the right link, and it works.
at least it does here.
At 08:21 a.m. 11/12/2009, you wrote:
hi all. when I go to
http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/

i get Cannot find server

The page cannot be displayed

 is this the right sight? and if not then what is the right sight? many 
 thanks. from Mich. 
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Re: [Audyssey] Saving Games in MOTA

2009-12-10 Thread shaun everiss
Well I do do some installers, and a few other things.
naturally when I get complaints I do try to solve the issues.
Ofcause when these become flames I just don't reply anymore.
As long as I have assured myself that at least on my end it works then I am 
satisfied.
It becomes an issue when only one or 2 people say its not ok and the rest 
either don't give any feadback or say its ok.
At 08:25 a.m. 11/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Liam,
Understood. I'll freely admit that I did over react when Mike sent his 
message. Yet, I'm also pretty frustrated and upset too at some of the e-mails 
I receive. When I became a game developer and took over James North's projects 
I didn't count on some of the negative e-mails that come with the job.
Anyway, as far as being able to fix the save/load game problem I realise it is 
quite easy to solve, but that really was not my point. My over all point to 
Mike was I have reasons for turningoff the save/load game feature in the beta, 
and the way he asked for it seamed to me quite rude and insulting. He knows 
full well it is a beta release, a locked demo, and said features are not there 
because of that reason. Even if he didn't know he could have reworded his 
request to me to be a lot nicer about it. Either that or he could have just 
waited for 1.0 to come out, buy the game, and not even worry about the 
save/load game feature at all.


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Re: [Audyssey] Saving Games in MOTA

2009-12-10 Thread shaun everiss
well you could always put the questions in a faq on your page, you could always 
 have me do support and have all the questions/ suggestions /complaints foreded 
at me I have time.
I know this could be interpreted as a semi sob but I am still looking for some 
decent things to do, so I could help you out or anyone else for that matter.
At 08:31 a.m. 11/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Matheus,
That is in large part why I was thinking of discontinuing the public beta 
program. Rather than dealing with lots of questions, suggestions, complaints, 
etc I'lljust work on the game, get it close to done as I can, and put out a 
final test release for registered users to test. Once I'm sure it is stable 
release 1.0.

*Smile*

Matheus wrote:
completelya gree here. if a user makes a suggestion that you don't like,
ignore it, or if you can find a way to implement it, go ahead. i've seen
lots of times you implementing every single suggestion that was said
here,to make one user happy. other peoples already have said that
you're never going to make everyone happy at the same time, so implement
what you feel is right for the game, it's the best choise. take philip,
for example. his last project, Q9 received lots and lots of
suggestions. some of then were implemented, a lot of then not.
so, when someone requests to do x thing, think if you're going to like
it. if not, just don't do it. and i think that in one point, i have to
agree with will. i really like to download all the beta versions and
play all of then, to see what was changed. but the time that you take to
answer all the questions after each beta take a lot of time, if you
prefer to finish the game, and release a final version, it whould be
faster and good too.
you decide :)
HTH.
  


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Re: [Audyssey] ending bosses in games

2009-12-10 Thread shaun everiss
well each boss need to have their own characteristics tom.
smaller bosses can fly, jump, etc.
 other bosses can be slow and armoured.
and do loads of dammage but they will all have weaknesses.
At 10:00 a.m. 11/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
That's just the problem though. Some bosses like a minotaur is to big and too 
heavy to jump over you. They tend to stand in one spot and swing a big sword 
or ax at the hero. Of course, in those movies and games the hero is carrying a 
sword and not a gun which makes a big tactical advantage in this game. In this 
game Angela can just pull out an Uzi and hoze the boss down before he closes 
to attack range. I've done that a number of times and the minotaur is just way 
to easy to kill.

shaun everiss wrote:
well its hard enough, saying that if you get a blade its dead easy.
If you let em attack you well.
if the boss could run at you, maybe jump over you avoid some of your swings 
that kind of thing but I can't think of what else I could do for the bosses.
  


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Re: [Audyssey] ending bosses in games

2009-12-10 Thread shaun everiss
true but you will have to make sure that we can find at least one bladed weapon 
in level1.
if you put that in.
you will have to make sure the sword appears in level1 somewhere all the time.

if you don't well.
At 05:52 p.m. 11/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Dark,
Personally, I like the suggestion of limiting the ability to kill a boss to 
the sword. Since the sword is an enchanted sword it only stands to reason it 
would be the only weapon powerful enough to slay Kerberos, a cyclops, a 
minotaur, a hydra, and other such powerful creatures of Greek mythology. Plus 
the ending battle is going to be a sword duel anyway.
Not only that, but besides the bosses mentioned above I've been thinking of 
making up some new bosses. Say a warrior in heavy armour and sword who will 
challenge Angela to pass a certain point like cross a bridge or something. 
Perhaps some ancient Greek mage/sorceror who would be powerful enough to cast 
fireballs, perhaps create an ice storm, or something cool like that. Perhaps a 
massive skeleton warrior on horse back. Lots of cool ideas here.


dark wrote:
Hi Tom.

as I said, environmental factors,  and tactical advantage!

suppose,  as happened with certain sword wielding bosses in castlevania, 
the minertaur's weight when swinging it's sword caused rocks to fall from the 
cieling which angela had to doge,  thus making mow down at a distance a 
lot harder.

a cheaper (but possibly tougher and more dramatic option), might be to have 
the minertau's thick skin imune to bullets,  however the magic sword 
angela finds in the temple is just the thing,  though that might make 
bosses tough indeed!

You could also considder arming the beast with some sort of long distance 
weapon, spears to throw, a ball and chain etc.

I've even seen games where big stationary bosses had magic weapons which they 
could throw, and then have boomerang back to them!

there are mythical counterpoints for such,  and those attacks could be a 
real pest because they would often hit you twice, once on the way out, and 
once coming back!

Just some random thought.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Playing games on a real live Apple II e!

2009-12-11 Thread shaun everiss
I'd also be happy to hear this.
I am part of a site that posts anything tech so I could post it here.
however just don't pause for to long i will probably do something over the cast 
if I post it, but this should be interesting.
At 05:38 p.m. 12/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi,
Since this is on topic please feel free to reply to this on list. I wouldn't 
mind going back down memory lane myself. I used to love playing those old 
Apple games. Although, I don't remember the screen review commands. I still 
had enough vision at that point in time I simply red the screen.

*Smile*

Jeremy Hartley wrote:
Hey there folks.

I almost wasn't going to post to the list with this question, but this is 
sort of game related, and all the other lists and avenues I have tried are 
either no longer in existence, or the automated subscribing method appears to 
be broken, for example, on blindtech. grin

Anyway, a few days ago, a very special person obtained an apple II e machine 
for me, equipped with many disks with TextTalker and talking writer, Oregon 
trail, space invaders, haunted house, and a whole host of other games that 
I'm sure some of you know and remember from our apple days.

I will keep this question short.  I am recalling a lot of commands from my 
days with the Apple II gs and echo, such as run, brun, int, load, and 
catalog.  However, I can not seem to remember the screen review commands that 
was a part of all textTalker based programs.  I did remember last night that 
if I hit Control+l it got me into review mode.  Not sure how I remembered 
that after almost sixteen years. Heh.  But anyway, does anyone here remember 
the other screen review commands?

I would love to play some of these games, or even port some of them to 
windows just for kicks and a programming exercise.

Anyway, to not clutter up the list, I will include my e-mail address if you 
want to reply privately.

jeremyhart...@comcast.net

Thanks.

Jeremy Hartley


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Re: [Audyssey] Playing games on a real live Apple II e!

2009-12-12 Thread shaun everiss
aah.
maybe I should explain myself some.
There are new rules where if there are to many gaps, pauses and times where 
there is blank space in the recording it could get regected.
the site is at
http://technology.jaredrimer.net
I think there is a page of rules somewhere, forgot to link to the site.
At 08:29 p.m. 12/12/2009, you wrote:
Shaun,

I have really no idea what you meant in your below post. grin  All I asked is 
if anyone knows the old review commands.

You Wrote:

I'd also be happy to hear this.
I am part of a site that posts anything tech so I could post it here.
however just don't pause for to long i will probably do something over the 
cast if I post it, but this should be interesting.


I respond:

What in the world do you mean by saying don't pause too long because you may 
do something over the cast if you post it?  That really makes no sense in the 
context of my question.

Sorry, but this post made me chuckle, so just had to ask what in the heck you 
are talking about.  I am not making fun of you, I am sure you meant well, but 
if you expected me to get something out of what you posted, I didn't. grin

Jeremy


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Re: [Audyssey] Game Accessibility Site reported as an attack site

2009-12-12 Thread shaun everiss
well if you imagine a website like its an old house now not maintained its 
starting to tumble down.
thats what happens to old houses.
by now rats infest every corner and plants are growing through the walls.
At 05:41 a.m. 13/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi,

The website is still hacked. Please DO NOT VISIT!

And for the record: Sander and I originally set up the GA.com project and 
designed and maintained the website, but when we switched jobs about two years 
ago we stopped doing this. The website is the property and the responsibility 
of the Bartimeus Accessibility foundation who, unfortunately, have neglected 
the website from the moment we left. If Sander or me were still responsible 
for the website, this would never have happened. Sad...

Richard

http://audiogames.net
http://creativeheroes.net






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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Accessibility Site reported as an attack site


Hi eleanor.

Which sight is this? I've just checked 
http://www.game-accessibility.com/index.php?pagefile=home and neither avg nor 
ie brought up any errors. Obviously if there is one people should know, and 
sinse the site is run by the same admins who run audiogames.net it would be 
easy for me to contact them.

Or has the probleem just now been fixed?

This does need looking into, and thanks for reporting it.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Eleanor elea...@7128.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 3:38 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Game Accessibility Site reported as an attack site


When I tried to sign on to the Game Accessibility Site I got a warning page 
stating that the site has been reported as an attack site.  When you look at 
the more information section, it does not say that any mal-ware has been 
reported from the site in the last 90 days, but it does give you the 
warning.  The people who operate that site may want to try to get the 
warning removed because most people won't go to a site that is listed as an 
attack site.  I know they have had problems with spammers over the last 
year, but this is the first time I've seen the warning.

Eleanor Robinson
7-128 Software

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[Audyssey] mine sweeper

2009-12-12 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
fransis wolf has released mine sweeper a bit ago.
today I had to turn off my virus checker to install it because it said  there 
was a trogen just like night of parasite.
I have converted the installer to innosetup
and here it is
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/minesweeper11setup.exe


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Re: [Audyssey] Important MOTA Announcement

2009-12-12 Thread shaun everiss
well I think you should do what you can to at least get the registered  version 
going even if this is just adding the reg support in the game so that those 
that are waiting for the game due to the pree orders and such don't whine at 
you, they have been waiting long enough.
However since I didn't do the preorder thing when it was mont I say go for it 
man.
I have seen wh what your work is nice and if its going  to be better than it 
actually is which by the way actually is quite good then go nock yourself out.
At 02:39 p.m. 13/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi everyone,
Over the passed few months many of you have reported to me a problem with 
Mysteries of the Ancients where it crashes suddenly and often times without 
warning. Some times an error will come up stating that a certain *.wav file 
could not be found, DirectX passes an illegal argument exception, and so on 
all of which seam to be related to Managed DirectX. I've confirmed this 
problem is related to Managed DirectX itself, not my games, from various 
sources so it is quite apparent that the Managed DirectX API for .NET programs 
needs to be taken out of the game and be replaced with something else much 
more stable and reliable. I agree that this should be done before Mysteries of 
the Ancients 1.0 is released. Obviously this will take some time, but there 
are various options and alternatives open to me at this point.
There is a somewhat short term solution I could use where I simply upgrade the 
existing Genesis Engine written in C# .NET with alternative sound and input 
APIs. Just off the top of my head there is FMOD,Earclang, the XNA Framework, 
and SlimDX just to name a few options here. While upgrading the engine to use 
one or more of these APIs wouldn't take too long I do wonder if that is the 
better solution for the project long term.
A better long term solution is to simply move away from C# .NET altogether and 
begin converting the code over to C++ now. Two of my projects STFC and USA 
Raceway are already in the process of being written in C++, and it would be in 
my long term interests to go ahead and switch the Genesis Engine and Mysteries 
of the Ancients to c++ now rather than wait to do it later on.
For one thing I've been in the process of converting the Genesis Engine over 
to C++ anyway as well as some on going projects like the new STFC and USA 
Raceway. Rather than go through the trouble of removing Managed DirectX from 
the .NET based engine, upgrading it for this one game, it makes more practical 
sense to save myself the time and work by completing the C++ version of the 
Genesis Engine. Once that task is completed I could conceivably produce a 
better more stable version of Mysteries of the Ancients  by using the newer 
and hopefully better C++ based game engine.
Another reason why I think Mysteries of the Ancients should be converted to 
C++ has to do with long term technical support on my end of things. Ever since 
I began releasing games based on Microsoft's .NET technology my number one 
technical support issue has been related to downloading, installing, and 
upgrading the various .NET components you need such as the .NET Framework and 
Managed DirectX. Were i to switch to C++ I could save both you and I a lot of 
work downloading, installing, and upgrading libraries as I would primarily use 
standard Windows libraries that would be found on any XP, Vista, or Windows 7 
system. You should be able to just install and go without wondering if you 
have the absolutely latest DirectX or .NET Framework on your system. I think 
this is a much better user friendly setup and hopefully would require a lot 
less tech support from me.
Those are just some of the advantages of switching to C++ now. Others would 
include better system performance, better security, a wider availability of 
game related APIs, etc. Basically, C++ can't be beat when it comes to game 
programming, and now is clearly the time to strongly consider using it for 
this project as well as my on going and pending projects.
The one question I know many of you are asking is, how long will all of this 
take?
That is a difficult question to answer. Anything I would say here would be 
simply a guess at best. Do to the fact C# .NET is a C-Style language it 
obviously has a lot in common with C++, and much of the code could be 
converted pretty easily from C# to C++. That would obviously save time. Still 
there would be quite a lot of manual coding by hand to fully convert the 
engine from one language to the other. How long that would actually take is 
anyone's guess. However, if I had to make an educated guess say three or four 
months for the conversion process if everything goes well.
Anyway, the point I want to make is that there are lots of ways of resolving 
our Managed DirectX issue. In the short term I certainly could upgrade the 
.NET based Genesis Engine, finish Mysteries of the Ancients, and have 1.0 out 
fairly quickly. However, I believe the long term 

Re: [Audyssey] donating was: Re: cosmos versus miriani?

2009-12-12 Thread shaun everiss
mushclient is a good client no ftp will not work.
At 02:39 p.m. 13/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi, What should I use to connect to this game?  I'm new to the game play. 
Should I use my FTP filezilla? Or is there something different for the games?
Sorry for the dumb questions
Lisa

- Original Message - From: Tristan theblinddj...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] donating was: Re: cosmos versus miriani?


SERVER:  trek.servegame.org
PORT(s): 1234, 1236, or 5190

HTH

Tristan
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:38:49 -0600, mike maslo wrote:


I can't connect to cosmos. Can someone give me the connection info again
Also there is a new space game but low player base and not many help files

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Helms
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:18 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] donating was: Re: cosmos versus miriani?

let us not forget that cosmos does have player benfaits

On 12/11/09, Constantine tcwoo...@shaw.ca wrote:
Exactly. Which is probably why cosmos isn's as stable - people just think
oh, well, if he's not going to give us anything...too bad, we're not
donating!


contact details:

email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca

and others
msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com
skype: the_conman283

system details:
Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram,
Fujitsu
100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio
- Original Message -
From: peter Mahach piterm...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:43 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] donating was: Re: cosmos versus miriani?


miriani can be a cool game, if not annoying at times lol, but I agree
with

you both, however
cady, donating does not always mean benefits. some people do it, some
don't. the idea of donating is to support the people and if we're looking
at willing to donate rather than paying to unlock a certin software,
sometimes you get benefits like here, and sometimes, you just get thanked
for supporting the dev (which is the case, for instance, when donating to
qwitter).
- Original Message -
From: Mauricio Almeida mauricio...@uol.com.br
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] cosmos versus miriani?


Katie! You  're my hero for the day!
I have been trying to make all those points in this list for ages. while
i do give the hosts of cosmos credit, I have to say miriani is a way
more developed game.
If i may ask your contacts (skype, msn, etc), you can answer privately.
I ask because i know over 275 miriani players after 3.5 years playing,
and I love knowing new folks from there.

thanks,

mauricio
-Mensagem original-
De: Katie Madison dectalk.l...@gmail.com
Para: gamers@audyssey.org
Data: Sexta, 11 de Dezembro de 2009 00:05
Assunto: [Audyssey] cosmos versus miriani?

Hello,
To all of you out there who like muds, there are a couple of space
based muds called cosmos and miriani. If anyone plays these muds,
which do you like better. I like miriani better than cosmos hands
down! It's more up to date, and has a tons more features and
activities than cosmos. It can keep you playing for hours. There are
far more people on miriani than cosmos and it's more active and fun.
For those who donate to miriani and cosmos, donating to miriani is so
much better! With miriani, if you donate, you sure get your money's
worth! There are so many cool things you can do and get that donators
can't. Cosmos, on the other hand, you hardly get any donator binifits.
And most of all, I like miriani better than cosmos because it is a lot
more stable! I have only found one bug in miriani but a ton of errors
on cosmos. I think the hosts of miriani are a lot more on top of
things and are a lot more aware of bugs and errors. This is just my
opinion. So what do you think. For people who have never heard of
these muds, here are some links. For miriani, go to toastsoft.net. For
cosmos, go to trekgames.net.
Katie

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Re: [Audyssey] the switching of the voice in MOTA beta 10

2009-12-13 Thread shaun everiss
yeah some sapis get broken.
I have broken mine and repaired it but unless you want to reformat or muck 
about which is what I eventually did I wouldn't recomend doing anything bar 
formatting.
although sapi doesn't really break unless you mangle something, hmph.
At 12:28 p.m. 14/12/2009, you wrote:
Well Thomas would have to leave the sound files unencripted which can be a 
recipe for a lot of trouble with people stealing his sounds and things like 
that. At least with Sapi they can use their own voices, but then you have the 
problem of some people's broken Sapis. And while the number seems to be 
comparitively small there would undoubtedly be more as time went on. And as 
he's also pointed out, using an OS' native speach API would probably make 
making the game cross platform, at least without a lot of extra work. It may 
be possible but I'm not enough of a programming whiz to know.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the switching of the voice in MOTA beta 10


I have thought about it a bit more and i still think wave files will do the 
job. If anyone doesnt like the voice or cant follow the language quickly, 
they can just make new voice files.

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the switching of the voice in MOTA beta 10
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Date: 13/12/2009 8:52 pm

Hi Jim,
Yeah, but if I go ahead and put in Sapi support I'm not going to use wav
files any more for speech. That's just too much work supporting both.
Keep in mind here I'm preparing to convert my code to C++ and while I am
at it I could go ahead and rewrite the speech functions to use Sapi
instead. I'm not going to do both. It is one way or the other. Not both.

*Smile*

Jim Kitchen wrote:
Hi Thomas,

You know adding the sapi5 support would be the easy part of speech.
It is using wave files that takes so much programming.  For Basic it
could be as easy as

if sapi = true then
say StuffToSay variable
else
do the wave file speech stuff
end if

I actually have two say sub routines.  One waits for the speech to be
done and the other doesn't.  They are just sub say(a$) and say2(a$)
And look like

Sub say(a$)
Voice.Speak a$
End Sub

Sub say2(a$)
Voice.Speak a$, SVSFlagsAsync
End Sub

That would be pretty easy to add I would think.

BFN

Jim

Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play.

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Re: [Audyssey] PKB Games

2009-12-14 Thread shaun everiss
yeah you can also test but be warned this stuff is not all fun.
just be carefull what you run.
At 08:35 p.m. 14/12/2009, you wrote:
You don't find pkb games, you become it.
Pkb games is a group which I'm part of, we make games in autoit.
If you are a programmer you can join us, write to Peter.

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 Hi All,

 Does anyone know where to find PKB Games?

 Best Regards,

 Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] PKB Games

2009-12-14 Thread shaun everiss
no you can just be a tester or whatever.
you can join just have to ask for access.
you do need dropbox to have access to the files.
At 01:39 p.m. 15/12/2009, you wrote:
In other words, you have to be a  programmer to join  and get copies of the
games?

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] PKB Games

yeah you can also test but be warned this stuff is not all fun.
just be carefull what you run.
At 08:35 p.m. 14/12/2009, you wrote:
You don't find pkb games, you become it.
Pkb games is a group which I'm part of, we make games in autoit.
If you are a programmer you can join us, write to Peter.

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 Hi All,

 Does anyone know where to find PKB Games?

 Best Regards,

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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for Lighttech Games

2009-12-15 Thread shaun everiss
I can.
I'll look through your free stuff and put up what you don't have.

At 04:26 p.m. 15/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi all,
As many of you know I am working on a free games page, and beginning to upload 
all of the free games I have to the USA Games server. However, apparently I 
have lost all of the Lighttech Interactive games. When I checked their web site
www.lighttechinteractive.com
I get a web site unavailable message. Either the domain has expired, the web 
server is having problems, whatever I have no way to download any of their 
games.
So if nobody would mind could you upload their games to sendspace or something 
so I can grab them, and put them on my web site?

Thanks.


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for Lighttech Games

2009-12-15 Thread shaun everiss
well I am uploading all the games they have had right now.
I'll give the links when its all up.
I will need to kill these things though soonish because I don't have much space 
left.
on that note.
will you tom be hosting my night of parasite and mine sweeper installers?
I can send these links at you to if you want.
I'll do this.
On that note to all I will be killing the installers once everyone has em or 
they are hosted.
If i can get some more users to join that are my friends I will have up to 3gb 
eventually but still.

you wrote:
Hi Tom.

I've got setup files for all their games accept number guess.

the folder's uploading to sendspace right now,  I'll post the link when 
it's finished.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:26 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for Lighttech Games


Hi all,
As many of you know I am working on a free games page, and beginning to 
upload all of the free games I have to the USA Games server. However, 
apparently I have lost all of the Lighttech Interactive games. When I checked 
their web site
www.lighttechinteractive.com
I get a web site unavailable message. Either the domain has expired, the web 
server is having problems, whatever I have no way to download any of their 
games.
So if nobody would mind could you upload their games to sendspace or 
something so I can grab them, and put them on my web site?

Thanks.


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[Audyssey] all my games

2009-12-15 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
these are the current links to my games
lti.zip
contains all games bar numcrunch
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/lti.zip
the next link is  for numcrunch
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/num-crunch_setup.exe
night of parasite installer innosetup
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/nop31.exe
minesweeper installer.


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[Audyssey] oops

2009-12-15 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
mine sweeper link below
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1407689/minesweeper11setup.exe


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Re: [Audyssey] LightTech Games

2009-12-15 Thread shaun everiss
hmmph.
I already did this last night looks like we are doubeling up.
At 01:27 a.m. 16/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi all,

Ok, I have zipped all the Light Tech games. I warn you, the file is quite
large though. Get it at :
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3515620/Light%20Tech%20Games.zip.

Enjoy,

Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] FW: New game

2009-12-15 Thread shaun everiss
no.
I have not.
rather I may have but I get loads of mail these days
however taking into mind the email address was google this could be from anyone.
usually people post to audiogames, this may be lagit.
but who is game enough to check it.
I'm not such a person.
if someone has a system to get hacked or something can they varify this is a 
lagit thing?
The email was not in good english but then  emails from the author of night of 
parasite are not fully in good english either so then again no way to varify.
The youtube is lagit but it probably could be replicated.
on that note maybe I may have some answer for the list.

At 08:38 a.m. 16/12/2009, you wrote:
I haven't looked at this, but the YouTube link is genuine. Also, I have no
idea why I got this. Has anyone else seen it?

 

Ryan

 

  _  

From: Mariusz Suder [mailto:suderma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:33 AM
To: r_str...@hotmail.com
Subject: New game

 

Greatings 


We are SuderMario company developing computer software.

We mainly develop nice computer games for blind and visually impaired.

Try original navigation with sound cursors.


For more information please visit our website:

http://www.sudermario.co.cc http://www.sudermario.co.cc/ 


Full version works like in this commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEqDPUTFBTo

Best wishes Mariusz Suder
SuderMario

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Re: [Audyssey] Triple J Shooter

2009-12-16 Thread shaun everiss
yeah its interesting.
also if you enter the wrong message.
is there any to tell you what the target should be.
I have the sound right in front of me but I still get the walls.
At 02:09 a.m. 17/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Johnny,

Thank you very much!  I'm glad to hear that you think that TJS is a fun little 
game.

At first I was thinking a more serious game, but since there are not real 
sounds the ones to depict the actions kind of ended up being a bit more 
humorous.

You just barely missed getting enough points to make it to the bonus round.  
Good luck with that.

Thanks again for saying that you like the game.

BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Triple J Shooter

2009-12-18 Thread shaun everiss
I think there should be a sound at least in easy level.
I have slowed down the target factor by a couple notches but even on easy mode 
its still semi hard.
I think there should be a target sound though maybe in all levels nothing 
flash, just a beep or click will do.

At 11:20 p.m. 18/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I have had some bad scores just for trying for below the belly button.

Just wondering, do people think that there should be a targeting scanner sound 
or something?  I don't want to make it too easy though.  And some times it is 
fun just to accidently do the facial or whatever.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Triple J Shooter

2009-12-18 Thread shaun everiss
Well I mannaged to get one perfect round and get one almost.
enough to get into the bonus round I got betwene 700 and 850 in that round 
correct.
well 500 points in bonus, and thats it.
I think something should happen if you finnish the bonus round though depending 
on your score also if you get everything correct which is a challange itself.
Interestingly I find this game quite good in the way I need to concerntrate.
I often play mota first thing in the morning and others to wake up and wind 
down or if I am sleeping so I sertainly appreciate small games like this one.
Nothing special really but then when you need to be awake you need a small 
piece of crud to get going not a huge double wopper  with cheese.
When you are stressed or you want to blow some steam then you need one of those.

At 11:21 p.m. 18/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I have had some bad scores just for trying for below the belly button.

Just wondering, do people think that there should be a targeting scanner sound 
or something?  I don't want to make it too easy though.  And some times it is 
fun just to accidently do the facial or whatever.

BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Ablegamers.com

2009-12-18 Thread shaun everiss
not well john.
I loaded the site with nvda but got nothing but a blank page in fact ie6 really 
couldn't do much.
when I loaded with hal 5.2 I got an opperation abborted message after a while 
although the site did try to load or at least it sounded like it was.

At 11:44 p.m. 18/12/2009, you wrote:
Folks,

Please help me determine if the Web site www.ablegamers.com is indeed now 
blind accessible.

I've been bugging Mark Barlet, the Webmaster, for a year about this. We met 
here in Boston last week and he said he'd added skipnav and related features.

But my skills at JAWS are pathetic. And his Web site is information-dense. I 
got in and realized that I can't do a fair evaluation on my own.

Mark is a sighted disabled Vet, who's had a demonstrable effect getting the 
mainstream game biggies to make their stuff more accessible to the motion 
impaired.

If we can help him make his Web site more blind and VI accessible, then 
perhaps we can get some of his effectiveness to benefit the blind and VI 
gaming community.

Please go to www.ablegamers.com and post here how it works for you.

Dark, how well does Mark's Web site work for your reader?

Thanks,

John Bannick
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Re: [Audyssey] Ablegamers.com

2009-12-18 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm that dnd thing would be hard dark though not impossible as long as it all 
came in text if the player wished but you are right we can't have it all.
At 04:36 a.m. 19/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi John.

I've checked the site, and as far as blog and review sites go it seemed okay 
with Hal, - usual shortcuts seemed to work, and ctrl down arrow got me to 
the site content.

Indexing links somewhere at the top for news catagories might be nice,   
but there's no difficulty in going to the bottom and finding them from there.

As to the favourites thing Phil mentioned,  -well like Wikipedia pages the 
site does seem to have pre set link hotkeys for alt f etc, but there's a 
symple work around I've used on wikipedia for years,  alt T for tools, 
then left into favourites and add.

I did read an artical about hereing impared gamers and tabletop which I found 
interesting, however I do wonder if the focus of that site,  being more on 
motion imparement, deafness and colour blindness makes it a good place for 
discussion of games without vision, or with extremely limited vision.

On retroremakes.com I remember posting a topic about how dissatisfied I was 
with the Wiimote menue system, sinse it actually precludes me from accessing 
any of the console functions or learning where menue items are,  the way I 
would in a standard console game, and wishing there was an alternative to have 
a one press menue system of the classic type.

I was given some very hard answers,  and told that the Wiimote system was 
great for motion impared gamers.

This is one case where an accommodation for one disability actually precludes 
another,  in fact one of the articals I read was an interesting one about 
a deaf player playing tabletop wargames, talking about the visual appeal and 
nature of the game making it accessible.

Yet, such a game would be virtually impossible for a blind person,   
given the non-stratified piece movement and necessity to review the table with 
many objects.

By the same tocan though, standard dice roleplay such as DD,  where the 
Gm speaks what is happening and players' communicate their characters movement 
is incredibly accessible for someone with a visual imparement, --- -but would 
I guess be severely difficult for a deaf player due to the communication 
issues and the necessity to listen to the Gm.

Just my thoughts.

Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Core exiles what ship to buy next?

2009-12-18 Thread shaun everiss
well you need at least 16 mill for the next ship entry level up.
I suggest you stay with entry level ships first then work yourself up to the 
multipurpose, I am not up there yet but I wouldn't specialise unless thats what 
you are doing.
The special ships cost loads.
At 05:46 a.m. 19/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi all,

Well I'm at lvl 30 now with a grand total of about 8.5m cr to my name. am
looking for a new ship. Any thoughts? I'm really aiming sooner or later for
the liberator as that's a really nice looking bit of kit and that will do me
until I decide what to do from then on. But that's only going to come when I
have a ton of money lol. Something which I don't exactly have yet.

So any thoughts? I guess there's no right or wrong answers to this one so
let the debating begin!
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Re: [Audyssey] Triple J Shooter

2009-12-18 Thread shaun everiss
grin
aah ok.
yeah maybe it does do enough as it is.
At 09:54 a.m. 19/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,

What would you like to see happen, I mean it does say a perfect 10 points 
or in the bonus round a perfect 50 points.  And of course you will finish 
the bonus round if you score enough to get to it.

Now lets see for a perfect 100 points a real woman should walk out of your 
computer.  Oh well a guy can dream right?

TGIF and BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Naive C++ Questions

2009-12-18 Thread shaun everiss
the only language I have used is pascal.
free pascal with dev pascal compiler.
it was part of my uni class.
now if any resource is avalible for gaming I actually may pull out my 
programming books from those early days.
I only have done console apps but still.
At 11:49 a.m. 19/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Thomas,

You know, I have been wondering for awhile how much I would need to change my 
programming habits to go from VB6 to VB net.  Especially if BB net supports 
stuff like GoSub, loop while, GoTo etc.  But it kind of looks like you are 
saying that VB net is on it's way out as well.  I have also wondered if C++ is 
a derivative of COBOL.  It would be cool to program in C++ because it has been 
there forever and doesn't seem to change.  Of course the ultimate would be to 
program in what is it assembler or assembly.  Now that is some manly 
programming right?  But I do like that Basic does allot of stuff for you in 
the background and that Jaws works so well with BB6.  I have just always 
worked in the programming environment and then test run the code that I just 
added.  You know in VB6 you just press the f5 key to run the code.

Jim

Just one little typo and it made the entire code useless.

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Re: [Audyssey] PKB Game Playability

2009-12-18 Thread shaun everiss
you need autoit.
At 12:25 p.m. 19/12/2009, you wrote:
Hello,

I have just received the invitation to hhe drop box  folder containing the
PKB Games and whatever else is there. Now how do I play them? I just
installed InoSetup 5.3, but I think that's the wrong version because the
file loads into InoSetup, then doesn't want to compile.

Best Regards,

Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] quesiton about triple j shooter

2009-12-20 Thread shaun everiss
yeah you need to push the keys slooowly as.
And I mean it, since this game is designed for joystick its not going to allow 
for keyboard quickpress probably because joystick actions are not like that.
I have noticed that navigation with this game in fact all the joystick designed 
things jim has made are quite different in speed of menu navigation.
At 11:54 p.m. 20/12/2009, you wrote:
Hey everyone,
I just had a question. I installed the triple j shooter and it doesn't appear 
to be working correctly. It asks my age and I input it and press enter. it 
then asks me to make a selection and the only choice I have is to exit game.
Can anyone offer some suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
Kellie and my lovable Lady J.
Resident Adviser, Guide Dogs for the Blind Oregon campus
www.guidedogs.com 

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Re: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming

2009-12-20 Thread shaun everiss
no actual level.
however I have some books and other junk I pulled from the net  some from 
blindprogrammers and some from my university days.
I'll zip it and dropbox it and shove it at you offlist.
At 12:46 a.m. 21/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi.

I suspected as much, but what would the limits of php be? could php for 
instance handle values and objects which remained persistant betwene page 
changes, such as hp and inventory?

i know games like Sryth use Javascript,  but again I'm not sure.

Also as I said, if php or javascript is what is required,  is there any 
conveneient beginners' level code or tutorials I might have a look at just to 
get a general idea of what sort of thing I'm up against?

BEWARE THE GRUE!

dARK.
- Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming


Hellow,
I know HTML, but haven't really managed to learn PHP or Javascript yet
because my laptop is being a ... when it comes to running a server of any
kind, although it is more powerful than most so it should work fine.
Anyway, I'd say probably use Javascript obviously along with HTML to make an
online game, but you can use PHP if you only want stuff to be displayed on
the page rather than use text, sound and pictures/videos.
Probably doesn't make much sense, but still.
Hope that kind of helps,
Harmony.

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: 20 December 2009 12:50 AM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming

Hi.

this is just a bit of idel speculation on my part here.

something I've always wanted to do for many years is program a text rpg in
html along the lines of Sryth. I've spent a fair amount of time working out
hopefully interesting systems for game mechanics such as tactical turn based
combat, exploration and wilderness navigation, several different areas, and
indeed a hopefully interesting experience system.

all this is thus far totally in speculation land, and sinse I'll be busy
with my thesis for another couple of years, i'm making no promises.

Just for interests' sake though, I would be quite interested to know how you
would go about programming an html gamebook style adventure,  even a
basic one with the standard fighting fantasy rules.

I know some basic formatting commands in html,  but not to write in
systems for hp, dice combat or checking inventory. Would that require
javascript or a similar second language?

As I said, this is certainly in no way a promise, more a sort of how
realistic would my speculations be once my thesis is finished sort of
thing.

While I understand much of the theory of programming,  having studdied
both formal logic and metaphysics, and had vaguely in depth chats with my
friend who's a software designer, --- I've little idea of the
practicalities.

if someone has any suggestion for something I can look at I'd be interested
to here it,  and who knows, time permitting i might have a crack at
writing something myself (sinse afterall some good descriptive writing and
basic dice combat rules can go a long way to making a good gamebook).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming

2009-12-20 Thread shaun everiss
no actual level.
however I have some books and other junk I pulled from the net  some from 
blindprogrammers and some from my university days.
I'll zip it and dropbox it and shove it at you offlist.
At 12:46 a.m. 21/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi.

I suspected as much, but what would the limits of php be? could php for 
instance handle values and objects which remained persistant betwene page 
changes, such as hp and inventory?

i know games like Sryth use Javascript,  but again I'm not sure.

Also as I said, if php or javascript is what is required,  is there any 
conveneient beginners' level code or tutorials I might have a look at just to 
get a general idea of what sort of thing I'm up against?

BEWARE THE GRUE!

dARK.
- Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming


Hellow,
I know HTML, but haven't really managed to learn PHP or Javascript yet
because my laptop is being a ... when it comes to running a server of any
kind, although it is more powerful than most so it should work fine.
Anyway, I'd say probably use Javascript obviously along with HTML to make an
online game, but you can use PHP if you only want stuff to be displayed on
the page rather than use text, sound and pictures/videos.
Probably doesn't make much sense, but still.
Hope that kind of helps,
Harmony.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: 20 December 2009 12:50 AM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming

Hi.

this is just a bit of idel speculation on my part here.

something I've always wanted to do for many years is program a text rpg in
html along the lines of Sryth. I've spent a fair amount of time working out
hopefully interesting systems for game mechanics such as tactical turn based
combat, exploration and wilderness navigation, several different areas, and
indeed a hopefully interesting experience system.

all this is thus far totally in speculation land, and sinse I'll be busy
with my thesis for another couple of years, i'm making no promises.

Just for interests' sake though, I would be quite interested to know how you
would go about programming an html gamebook style adventure,  even a
basic one with the standard fighting fantasy rules.

I know some basic formatting commands in html,  but not to write in
systems for hp, dice combat or checking inventory. Would that require
javascript or a similar second language?

As I said, this is certainly in no way a promise, more a sort of how
realistic would my speculations be once my thesis is finished sort of
thing.

While I understand much of the theory of programming,  having studdied
both formal logic and metaphysics, and had vaguely in depth chats with my
friend who's a software designer, --- I've little idea of the
practicalities.

if someone has any suggestion for something I can look at I'd be interested
to here it,  and who knows, time permitting i might have a crack at
writing something myself (sinse afterall some good descriptive writing and
basic dice combat rules can go a long way to making a good gamebook).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming

2009-12-20 Thread shaun everiss
well I have the free account.
I use it for pkb games right now and my own stuff  I have 2.3gb right now.
Its all I need at the oment.
its good for short term storage.
I have added my friends to it.
eventually I may even invest in it as some sort of hosting plan.
maybe.
there is another service called gnomedisk but i have no idea about prices.
At 02:40 p.m. 21/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Sean.

Sounds handy,  though i've never eally got my head around dropbox, 
particularly the registration part, hence why i'm registered myself with 
sendspace (I would subscribe for a paying account, however all their plans are 
too expensive for far too much space.

stil, If you can put these resources together I'll take a look.

Btw, I'm not a moderator here, --- -but I would've such things would be highly 
appropriate to be posted on list so others may bennifit,  though off list 
is certainly fine with me.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming


no actual level.
however I have some books and other junk I pulled from the net  some from 
blindprogrammers and some from my university days.
I'll zip it and dropbox it and shove it at you offlist.
At 12:46 a.m. 21/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi.

I suspected as much, but what would the limits of php be? could php for 
instance handle values and objects which remained persistant betwene page 
changes, such as hp and inventory?

i know games like Sryth use Javascript,  but again I'm not sure.

Also as I said, if php or javascript is what is required,  is there any 
conveneient beginners' level code or tutorials I might have a look at just 
to get a general idea of what sort of thing I'm up against?

BEWARE THE GRUE!

dARK.
- Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming


Hellow,
I know HTML, but haven't really managed to learn PHP or Javascript yet
because my laptop is being a ... when it comes to running a server of any
kind, although it is more powerful than most so it should work fine.
Anyway, I'd say probably use Javascript obviously along with HTML to make an
online game, but you can use PHP if you only want stuff to be displayed on
the page rather than use text, sound and pictures/videos.
Probably doesn't make much sense, but still.
Hope that kind of helps,
Harmony.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: 20 December 2009 12:50 AM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] speculative html game programming

Hi.

this is just a bit of idel speculation on my part here.

something I've always wanted to do for many years is program a text rpg in
html along the lines of Sryth. I've spent a fair amount of time working out
hopefully interesting systems for game mechanics such as tactical turn based
combat, exploration and wilderness navigation, several different areas, and
indeed a hopefully interesting experience system.

all this is thus far totally in speculation land, and sinse I'll be busy
with my thesis for another couple of years, i'm making no promises.

Just for interests' sake though, I would be quite interested to know how you
would go about programming an html gamebook style adventure,  even a
basic one with the standard fighting fantasy rules.

I know some basic formatting commands in html,  but not to write in
systems for hp, dice combat or checking inventory. Would that require
javascript or a similar second language?

As I said, this is certainly in no way a promise, more a sort of how
realistic would my speculations be once my thesis is finished sort of
thing.

While I understand much of the theory of programming,  having studdied
both formal logic and metaphysics, and had vaguely in depth chats with my
friend who's a software designer, --- I've little idea of the
practicalities.

if someone has any suggestion for something I can look at I'd be interested
to here it,  and who knows, time permitting i might have a crack at
writing something myself (sinse afterall some good descriptive writing and
basic dice combat rules can go a long way to making a good gamebook).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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[Audyssey] kringle crash

2009-12-20 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
oh wow that was a fast little laugh.
The score was close.
but I just beat the elves.
I got gifts and betwene getting gifts as I went along I beat as many as I could.
good fun.


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Re: [Audyssey] Blastbay Studios - New release!

2009-12-21 Thread shaun everiss
I liked losing.
mr clause realises he is not in shape tries to and splits his pants.
At 11:09 p.m. 21/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Philip,
Just wanted to say what a great Christmas game this is. I loved both the 
acting and the cute little jokes in the game. Like when testing the speakers, 
exiting the game, and so on you tossed in a little joke here and there. It 
made the game less serious and a bit on the funny side.

Cheers!


Philip Bennefall wrote:
Hi all,

I wish to announce the release of our latest free game... Kringle Crash! Help 
Santa Claus to recover all the gifts that his elves have stolen, and try to 
prevent them from chucking the colorful packages into a massive garbage 
disposal unit. And of course, you can take out your frustration on the 
unsuspecting elves in a pleasingly violent manner.

The game can be found at:
http://www.blastbay.com/kringle_crash.php

Enjoy!

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall
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Re: [Audyssey] announcing new group programmers' paradise

2009-12-21 Thread shaun everiss
its free to register with msn and the dropbox system for a basic 2gb account.
just email piter and he will tell you what you need.
If you do not have an msn account you will need to get one, you can get this 
free.
Either by using your isp email address or a hotmail.
in theory you need to see a varification for this to work but I have a friend 
that never got hers.
I registered when xtra was using msn and not yahoo as its platform so my 
address is registered on yahoo as well as msn.
though I only use the msn.
You will either need windows messenger 5.1 which is what I use.
or windows live messenger which is what microsoft wants you to use but I don't.
or go to ftp.onj1.andrelouis.com and go to programs and tget the preconfigured 
miranda.
Groupsim is free as far as I know.
if you need the dropbox account email me and I will send you an invite.
after that send a message to piter to ask for shares on the test folder.
YOu will also need autoit.
you may download it from www.autoit.com or you can run it from the tools folder 
inside the shared autoit folder in your dropbox folder.
I have also stored innosetup 5.36 a script maker and a startup pack of goodies 
in the innosetup folder.
Most of the stuff is semi complete but some aint and some stuff can do some 
dammage.
read all documentation, notice you may have to edit some of the source files to 
find out what things are.
look for the hotkey keywords and remember the strokes.
Note to that the folder will change from day to day.
At 11:48 p.m. 21/12/2009, you wrote:
Is it free to register with msn?
Do I need additional hardware or software to join your group?
have a sunny day 

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Behalf Of Oriol Gómez
Sent: 18 December 2009 08:40 AM
To: black-operations; Gamers Discussion list; entombedg...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Audyssey] announcing new group programmers' paradise

Hi all,
This message is to announce my new group up on GroupsIM.com, called
programmers' paradise.
It's going to be a group with a dropbox folder of about 700 mb of
content for now, where everyone wll be able to share their programming
tools/tutorials, etc. Right now it consists mostly of autoit and
python libraries as well as a very good free c++ tutorial.
To join this group, please add the following address to your msn
messenger contact list which is a groupsIM.com address, which means
that everyone in the group will be able to see what you write under
your nickname as long as you are in the group.

To join it, add
group920...@groupsim.com
If you add the group and you don't see an intro page, try sending a
message to it. It should then appear as online.
When a new member joins I will invite them to the dropbox folder.
Enjoy!

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Re: [Audyssey] New Game: Monopoly!

2009-12-21 Thread shaun everiss
yeah thats a known issue I have had sapi and jaws sometimes get mixed up in 
actions that was worse in earlier alphas.
At 11:57 p.m. 21/12/2009, you wrote:
Hey all

  So far I'm having no problems running the game.  Though a couple 
suggestions do come to mind.
  It would be good if the player movement sound could be lowered as I find 
JFW seems a tad behind what is actually going on during the game.  Guess 
that sums up both really.  I was wanting to say It would be good to have 
some of the sounds when the action is taken and not before.  However I do 
realize this could be completely a JFW thing and might work quite 
differently on other systems.

Ron

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New Game: Monopoly!


I'm not the developer but I was a beta tester and helped with sounds, here
is what you can expect.
-many tokens and no these aren't text only. like in the old pcs dos
monopoly, each token has its own sounds, and the available tokens are a
ccar, a dog, and a cannon to name a few.
-sounds for different squares.
-built-in chat capabilities with a typing notification
-saving of games
-can talk through screen readers or sapi which is auto detected.
-it does have bots if there's noone to play with, and if you ask me the fact
it's multiplayer makes it outstanding!
o and it's free for everyone!

- Original Message - 
From: Ryan Smith computerwi...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:49 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] New Game: Monopoly!


 Hey Guys,
 Mike F, Jayson Smith and myself have been working hard to release
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Re: [Audyssey] supershot and windows seven, heeelp!

2009-12-21 Thread shaun everiss
well I have a coppy of the free game.
never registered never saw the point the game plays to completion all the time.
unless there is more that is.
At 12:06 a.m. 22/12/2009, you wrote:
I was actually asked to remove supershot from the audiogames.net database by 
Liam, sinse he was no longer even supporting the game as a freeby, so I'd be 
more than a little surprised if he's changed his mind,  though obviously 
some people may stil have coppies of the game kicking around.

Beware the grue!

Dark. 

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Re: [Audyssey] new game idea: teddy bear machines

2009-12-21 Thread shaun everiss
yes I have once.
although it was a gift not necessarily a teddy.
we also have a game where you put a coin in a slot and click a trigger.
you only have around 30 seconds to click that trigger because after that the 
coin will drop back in the basket.
even if you hit the trigger there is a 50-50 chance the coin will not come back 
out.
these game ideas are simple ones.
I think pkb or anyone here that has time can probably do it.
they don't need much effert.
the music for the bear machine may be a bit copywrited so it couldn't be the 
same but I don't see any issue.
one thing though is the machines themselves don't make much of a racket at 
least the ones I saw.
At 01:56 a.m. 22/12/2009, you wrote:
Attention all south African  members: arrie willem and jakob
But you guys in other parts of the world may also comment.
Have you seen those machines where one can win a teddy bear by  beating
a little game?
My mom has always told me about these machines, they are very tricky.
Basically you are using an arm to pick up one of the teddy bears inside
the machine. You have to press buttons similarly to those found on
joysticks, the arm is inside the machine.
Its very tricky, most of the times the teddy bear falls off the arm into
the bucket before one can retrieve it.
Basically one have to move the arm forward somewhat like in a
sidescroller, till the arm riches a teddybear, then one have to try and
pick up the bear with this arm and bring it to the side of the bucket
and lift it high enough  so that the machine releases it. 
The machine will try its best to drop the bear again.
So how would you guys feel about a game similar to  these teddy bear
machines ?Of course, I am not the potential developer, I just wish that
a game like these teddy bear machines can be made.
The teddy bear machines I have been to, while you play the game and also
while the machine idles until someone else plays, the music these
machines plays, is the lambada tune instrumentally.
Have you guys in other parts of the world also seen these teddy bear
machines?Some of them even contains watches. 
A teddy bear catch game would rock.
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Re: [Audyssey] clause victorious!

2009-12-21 Thread shaun everiss
I filled the slay and also beat up elves.
I got 45 so far I have never got higer than 46.
At 02:14 a.m. 22/12/2009, you wrote:
Well, i did it, second game 36 gifts recovered, 16 broken. 

I'm afraid I did use a rather crazy tactic, once i'd filled the slay enough I 
went and just stood in front of the desposal, knocking out elves so they 
couldn't break anymore presents! 

Nice game indeed! 

I'm not sure if developement is finished yet or not, but if you were planning 
to add anything, an extra sample when santa's got a full load of three 
presents would help, so that you don't need to press the C key,  as I did 
rather find myself sometimes running around trying to pick things up even with 
a full load. 

then, you might considder having difficulty modes,  not anything drastic, 
just playing around with the total of presents needed to collect, and the 
amount of time required to collect them. 


Whether this is possible or not though, it's a really nice game,  though 
it does rather offend my left wing sentiments to play the evil capitalist 
oppressive Santa clause! ;D. 

Beware the grue! 

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] new game idea: teddy bear machines

2009-12-21 Thread shaun everiss
I was thinking of this type to be a casino style.
you gamble some cash, then draw a card or something.
I know its not correct but that would make it interesting.
At 02:19 a.m. 22/12/2009, you wrote:
I have seen these machines,  we have them in England too, and in America I 
believe (sinse one featured in the film toystory),  though the background 
music may be various things not just the lambada you mention.

The problem is that they are actually a horrendous scam, sinse the jaws on the 
crane arm only tighten properly one time in about 50 (there is actually a 
mechanical switch inside the machine that assures this).

As to making it an audio game,  well I'm personally not sure about that, 
sinse it'd be a rather symple one even for a basic arcade game, and would need 
a good few extra features to be interesting to play, and by the time you'd 
added those features,  your probably talking about a completely different 
game entirely.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


- Original Message - From: Nicol Oosthuizen noosthui...@sars.gov.za
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:56 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] new game idea: teddy bear machines


Attention all south African  members: arrie willem and jakob
But you guys in other parts of the world may also comment.
Have you seen those machines where one can win a teddy bear by  beating
a little game?
My mom has always told me about these machines, they are very tricky.
Basically you are using an arm to pick up one of the teddy bears inside
the machine. You have to press buttons similarly to those found on
joysticks, the arm is inside the machine.
Its very tricky, most of the times the teddy bear falls off the arm into
the bucket before one can retrieve it.
Basically one have to move the arm forward somewhat like in a
sidescroller, till the arm riches a teddybear, then one have to try and
pick up the bear with this arm and bring it to the side of the bucket
and lift it high enough  so that the machine releases it.
The machine will try its best to drop the bear again.
So how would you guys feel about a game similar to  these teddy bear
machines ?Of course, I am not the potential developer, I just wish that
a game like these teddy bear machines can be made.
The teddy bear machines I have been to, while you play the game and also
while the machine idles until someone else plays, the music these
machines plays, is the lambada tune instrumentally.
Have you guys in other parts of the world also seen these teddy bear
machines?Some of them even contains watches.
A teddy bear catch game would rock.
have a sunny day

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Re: [Audyssey] night of parasite question

2009-12-21 Thread shaun everiss
it is clean.
its just the chinese installer.
I did have it up on dropbox. but after a few weeks after I got no responce I 
assumed it was no longer needed so got rid of it.
The installer is not infected with anything, you may turn off avg while you 
install the game.
At 05:17 a.m. 22/12/2009, you wrote:
Night of Parasite QuestionI just tried installing NOP and AVG came up and 
said it was infected with a trogen.  Where can I get a clean copy?




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Re: [Audyssey] announcing new group programmers' paradise

2009-12-22 Thread shaun everiss
aah.
At 07:28 p.m. 22/12/2009, you wrote:
You are mixing stuff up here Sean, this is not pkb, it's programmers
paradise, its a new group i made with another dropbox folder full of
different programming language stuff.

On 12/22/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 its free to register with msn and the dropbox system for a basic 2gb
 account.
 just email piter and he will tell you what you need.
 If you do not have an msn account you will need to get one, you can get this
 free.
 Either by using your isp email address or a hotmail.
 in theory you need to see a varification for this to work but I have a
 friend that never got hers.
 I registered when xtra was using msn and not yahoo as its platform so my
 address is registered on yahoo as well as msn.
 though I only use the msn.
 You will either need windows messenger 5.1 which is what I use.
 or windows live messenger which is what microsoft wants you to use but I
 don't.
 or go to ftp.onj1.andrelouis.com and go to programs and tget the
 preconfigured miranda.
 Groupsim is free as far as I know.
 if you need the dropbox account email me and I will send you an invite.
 after that send a message to piter to ask for shares on the test folder.
 YOu will also need autoit.
 you may download it from www.autoit.com or you can run it from the tools
 folder inside the shared autoit folder in your dropbox folder.
 I have also stored innosetup 5.36 a script maker and a startup pack of
 goodies in the innosetup folder.
 Most of the stuff is semi complete but some aint and some stuff can do some
 dammage.
 read all documentation, notice you may have to edit some of the source files
 to find out what things are.
 look for the hotkey keywords and remember the strokes.
 Note to that the folder will change from day to day.
 At 11:48 p.m. 21/12/2009, you wrote:
Is it free to register with msn?
Do I need additional hardware or software to join your group?
have a sunny day

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
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Sent: 18 December 2009 08:40 AM
To: black-operations; Gamers Discussion list; entombedg...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Audyssey] announcing new group programmers' paradise

Hi all,
This message is to announce my new group up on GroupsIM.com, called
programmers' paradise.
It's going to be a group with a dropbox folder of about 700 mb of
content for now, where everyone wll be able to share their programming
tools/tutorials, etc. Right now it consists mostly of autoit and
python libraries as well as a very good free c++ tutorial.
To join this group, please add the following address to your msn
messenger contact list which is a groupsIM.com address, which means
that everyone in the group will be able to see what you write under
your nickname as long as you are in the group.

To join it, add
group920...@groupsim.com
If you add the group and you don't see an intro page, try sending a
message to it. It should then appear as online.
When a new member joins I will invite them to the dropbox folder.
Enjoy!

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Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site down again?

2009-12-24 Thread shaun everiss
the site is ok.
Interestingly enough as  always happens every so often the isp decided to 
upgrade or the router did a perminant drop.
This happens every 2 weeks to 6 months depending on its mood.
the net died and I had to disconnect the router and reboot it.
this doesn't happen often but otherwise yeah your site works.
At 02:42 a.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Bryan,
Please, try again. I just checked and the site seams to be up and working fine 
as far as I can see, and everything server side appears to be configured 
properly.  Earlier this month we had a router die on us, and last month whee 
had to upgrade to a new hard drive. So we have had our hardware issues, but 
everything currently appears ship shape.
If you continue having problems I can try and sign you up to the list 
manually, but if you aren't seeing the site something could be wrong on your 
end.


Bryan Peterson wrote:
I've been trying to access the site so I could join the USA Games mailing 
list but I can't access the site. It seems to be down.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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Re: [Audyssey] Need A Walkthrough for Future Boy

2009-12-24 Thread shaun everiss
hmmph interesting.
I was able to buy it through their cafepress system.
Here is the issue.
its not needed but I'd create an account first at www.cafepress.com
Reason being I tried to order first and got a message that my credit card was 
not able to be processed 2 days after it supposedly went through.
The bank did charge me for the stuff even though I had not processed anything.
An email to gc got me that it hadn't.
I created the account manually, logged in to it and then things went to plan.
weird.
At 02:52 a.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Tom,
  I don't know what site you're talking about, but yes, the game isn't 
 available to download or purchase directly from the Future Boy website. I 
 ended up writing to the General Coffee Film Productions Company, who produce 
 the game along with the Hugo text adventure engine (their website is 
 www.generalcoffee.com/) to inquire about the game. They gave me an email 
 address to purchase the game using PayPal, then emailed me some download 
 instructions. If you want the demo version of the game, you can get it at the 
 Interactive Fiction Archive, www.ifarchive.org/, in the games/hugo folder.
  Hope this helps.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
For information regarding my Internet radio shows, links to my favorite sites, 
and more, visit my personal website at http://www.ksapergia.net/.
If you need jingles, voiceovers and music for your project at an affordable 
price, visit KJS Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com/.


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Re: [Audyssey] Giftanum?

2009-12-24 Thread shaun everiss
well jim kitchen has admitted some years back his code is not prity either.
not sure if this is true still or not.
I programmed in javascript and pascal.
and in pascal I would go nice and fast forget to put capitals on var or 
something or forget somethingelse and my program was locking up, restart, 
restart, oh man where is that code, where is it.
This is already an hour, oh man I need to smash something.
eventually I found it but yeah.
Actually I think javascript is teaching bad programming practice as you can 
store variables etc anywhere you want and it really couldn't give a stuff.
so if you then go pascal or other languages and try to do that well.
At 05:53 a.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Damien,
Smile. Yes, we all need to start somewhere. As it happens a while back I found 
some cds with some very old source code on it, code from my college days, and 
I was horrified when reading the source for some of those programs. It was 
obvious I didn't have a clue what I was doing, or I had an idea of what I was 
doing, but not quite sure how to write programs professionally yet. So we all 
have had our amateur days.
I also understand what you are going through with C++. Although, I took C++ in 
college and have programmed in it off and on for 10 years or so I don't have 
an extremely strong grasp of the language myself. When .NET came out around 
2003 most of the contract jobs I was looking into wanted VB .NET or C# .NET, 
so I learned those languages, and that is mainly what has been in high demand 
ever since. The end result was even though I knew the basics of C++ I never 
got to grow into the language and get a lot of hands on experience with it, 
because I'm working with VB and C# .NET professionally. Now, that I've decided 
to begin using C++ for games I'm finding myself looking up tutorials and 
refreshing my skills to get back into the swing of things. It isn't that hard 
for me since I basically know what I'm doing,but I also know my skills and 
experience aren't as good as they should be.
I'm making mistakes and doing things a more skilled C++ developer wouldn't. So 
it could be some time even for me to get back into using C++ with any degree 
of skill and experience.



Damien C. Sadler wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Well, to be honest everyone starts somewhere. I dread to think if I went back 
5 years what my code looked like. Even now I am not very experienced with 
games programming. Yes I can make the odd utility in VB, but even then I've 
been having reports left right and centre regarding bugs that I can't seem to 
replicate.
However, learning C++, I am right back to novice state. I feel humiliated to 
say that so far, after almost a month of trying to learn, I still can't even 
write a clean hello world program. Probably because of its extensive nature. 
In VB, I had to write it as a message box simply because I wasn't practising 
coding by drawing a window and saving an executable. So as you can imagine, 
writing a 3 liner in a message box to writing an 85 line version creating a 
window is a large jump.
Regards,
Damien.


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Re: [Audyssey] Santa Claus is back and other Code factury games

2009-12-24 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm code factory don't produce games anymore.
At 09:15 a.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi list,

I just tried to download the game Santa Claus is back from Code factory, but I 
got a page not found error.
Is Code factory totally down?
And if this is the case, has someone the Santa Claus game and maybe others too 
from Code factory and can host or upload them somewhere?

I really would like to play this game and perhaps the others from Code factory 
again.

Thanks for any help in advance, best regards and happy christmas from
Sarah 

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Re: [Audyssey] Giftanum?

2009-12-24 Thread shaun everiss
grin
I'll check it out.
its christmas day here and I have just finnished the potatoe pealing and other 
things.
need a break especially since the fridge has decided that it wants to die in a 
rather noisy way.
At 12:13 p.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,

Pretty or ugly or whatever, all I know is that my code is not business 
standard type coding.  It is self taught, home spun code.  I have no problem 
even years later going back into it and figuring it all out, but others, 
especially college taught, professional programmers would probably be swearing 
and wanting to hunt me down for the way that I code. grin

If you want to look at some of it, I have put my simple sample guess the 
number game and it's source code up on my site on my free windows sapi5 text 
to speech games page.  The file name is guessvb.zip.

BFN

Jim

I like Visual Basic 6.0 because I can not C.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
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[Audyssey] guess the number code

2009-12-24 Thread shaun everiss
Hi.
yeah jim just looked at the code.
I understood the first part but after that, yeah, 


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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-24 Thread shaun everiss
weird.
maybe a virus.
I have had the same issue with an old system my grandpa has.
all his stuff is on an unsecured system because we didn't have the equipment or 
software to do anything about it.
due to it dieing mainly because of all the spyware and viruses and the fact 
that one of the fans in the power unit has been on the blink for some months, i 
actually looked at recovery.
However because of the condition it was not possible.
So just reformat and lose your stuff.
All I can suggest, I almost lost everything with my wd 500gb elements exploding.
Thanks to a couple lucky breaks, a drive with a dieing power switch my dad's 
system and my cell, part of the net and a couple other things I mannaged to 
lose vary little.
did your virus checker or something give any warning?
if not then it may not be a virus.
no virus does this anyway.

at least I don't know one.
Ok so it aint a virus.
get someone to look in bios.
most new systems have smart detection which is internal monitoring of some 
hardware, cpus, fans main board hdd etc.
if something is failing or has failed then someone sighted should probably help 
you on this.
Ofcause not sure if you are blind or not, but if not using del or whatever key 
gets you in the bios settings will help and have a look at bits of stuff.
Remove the power wait for 20 mins open the system check the cards are all in 
their slots.
turn on the system and listen with the case open.
if a fan or something is not working you should at least be able to hear it and 
see  it if you can.
NOt sure but people say you can see spinning components so it must do.
If you have a external hard drive caddy you could try connecting the drive to 
your system, and transfering stuff off.
you probably can scan the hdd on that system to and fix any virus, etc.
however not windows.
Should be ok as long as you don't autorun the drive.
How in the basic terms of your problem I suggest some hardware is dead, check 
the power supply and replace the battery, have a real good listen to the system.
I say this because one day a friend of mine paniced and shut down his system 
during a disk scan with norton disk docter because he was not used to the noise 
and got scared.
this resulted in destruction of his boot record and required an reinstall of 
the os only, which was fortunate.
Also fortunate for him because he was running dos 5.0 and I had 6.22
however  that was long time ago you can't do that with windows based system.
I am not sure how to answer your issue.
If you are able to fix this issue or even not I strongly recomend you buy an 
external hard drive and then another to back it up.
I have 2 here.
 the 640gb which is my main data drive and workhorse and a 1tb mybook which 
stores backups.
every few months I manually sink the drive this can take half a day or so but 
it means that in most cases I do have a coppy of the drive if not exact, well 
almost.
If the drive does die I can change drives, till I can buy another, and then 
transfer stuff over to it.
At 02:07 p.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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