Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Things like the README: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/c/axiom/README Axiom/C was moved to a separate folder only recently, however it is still part of Axis2/C Here is a tutorial: http://ws.apache.org/axis2/c/docs/om_tutorial.html Please try the tutorial with 0.91 release of Axis2/C. Currently the API is undergoing major changes and hence the svn head would not work according to the tutorial. Tutorial will be updated before the next release. Thanks, Samisa... Appear to be empty :) Thanks, Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
> > > > IIRC, FeedParser is languishing for need of a community. > > > > It really ought to just be dead. Kevin (original coder) decided to > > fork it externally so he wouldn't be tied up by our focus on not > > having single coder codebases (if I understand things correctly). > > There wasn't any interest in FeedParser in Commons, so he > was getting > > increasingly held back in the sandbox and unable to get a > release etc. > Hey - I had a patch integrated, so that makes at least 2 authors! (ok... it was only to the build scripts) > Don't really understand why ...just had a brief look lately - > looked quite cool. > I think it's kind of sad this happened. > > Do you know where the fork is? > http://www.feedblog.org/2006/01/updated_jakarta.html > cheers > -- > Torsten > Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Global Summit 2006: Technology Connected Futures -- 17-19 October, Sydney, Australia. Visit our website http://www.educationau.edu.au/globalsummit2006 for further details. _ IMPORTANT: This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain private or confidential information. If you think you may not be the intended recipient, or if you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not reproduce any part of this e-mail or disclose its contents to any other party. This email represents the views of the individual sender, which do not necessarily reflect those of education.au limited except where the sender expressly states otherwise. It is your responsibility to scan this email and any files transmitted with it for viruses or any other defects. education.au limited will not be liable for any loss, damage or consequence caused directly or indirectly by this email. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
> IIRC, FeedParser is languishing for need of a community. It really ought to just be dead. Kevin (original coder) decided to fork it externally so he wouldn't be tied up by our focus on not having single coder codebases (if I understand things correctly). There wasn't any interest in FeedParser in Commons, so he was getting increasingly held back in the sandbox and unable to get a release etc. Don't really understand why ...just had a brief look lately - looked quite cool. I think it's kind of sad this happened. Do you know where the fork is? cheers -- Torsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
On 5/25/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nick Lothian wrote: > There's also Jakarta FeedParser, which has an Atom parser. > Also the ROME project (http://rome.dev.java.net/) has been debating > requesting incubation at Apache for quite a long time. We've got an > Atom parser, too. IIRC, FeedParser is languishing for need of a community. It really ought to just be dead. Kevin (original coder) decided to fork it externally so he wouldn't be tied up by our focus on not having single coder codebases (if I understand things correctly). There wasn't any interest in FeedParser in Commons, so he was getting increasingly held back in the sandbox and unable to get a release etc. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
> > Nick Lothian wrote: > > > There's also Jakarta FeedParser, which has an Atom parser. > > > Also the ROME project (http://rome.dev.java.net/) has been debating > > requesting incubation at Apache for quite a long time. We've got an > > Atom parser, too. > > IIRC, FeedParser is languishing for need of a community. > Roller also has an Atom parser, AIUI. Is there any desire to > combine forces in this domain? I saw Dave Johnson expressing > interest in this proposal, too. > (I'm CC-ing ROME dev on this) I believe that Roller uses ROME for its feed parser (although I think Dave has written a client for Atom Publishing Protocol separatly). In any case, he certianly is a ROME committer (he wrote ROME's Atom 1.0 support). I am certain that the ROME developers would react positivly to any proposal to combine forces. It would be unfortunate to end up with Yet-Another-Java-Syndication API just because no one thought to try and combine them. OTOH, ROME's mission is slightly different to this proposal. ROME is designed to be the best possible API for syndication format. That means support for all the RSS "standards" and - increasingly - a degree of leinency in parsing. Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Global Summit 2006: Technology Connected Futures -- 17-19 October, Sydney, Australia. Visit our website http://www.educationau.edu.au/globalsummit2006 for further details. _ IMPORTANT: This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain private or confidential information. If you think you may not be the intended recipient, or if you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not reproduce any part of this e-mail or disclose its contents to any other party. This email represents the views of the individual sender, which do not necessarily reflect those of education.au limited except where the sender expressly states otherwise. It is your responsibility to scan this email and any files transmitted with it for viruses or any other defects. education.au limited will not be liable for any loss, damage or consequence caused directly or indirectly by this email. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Yes, personally I would love to collaborate with the ROME folks on this. Their project has a much broader scope in that it supports Atom plus all the various flavors of RSS, but there are a number of ways in which the two projects could feed off of and into each other. - James Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Nick Lothian wrote: > >> There's also Jakarta FeedParser, which has an Atom parser. > >> Also the ROME project (http://rome.dev.java.net/) has been debating >> requesting incubation at Apache for quite a long time. We've got an >> Atom parser, too. > > IIRC, FeedParser is languishing for need of a community. Roller also has an > Atom parser, AIUI. Is there any desire to combine forces in this domain? I > saw Dave Johnson expressing interest in this proposal, too. > > --- Noel > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
> What a great idea! The code looks very nice and I'd love to help. > > - Dave Yes , I agree and hope to join in and dev at some point. > > > > James M Snell wrote: >> Hello, >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal I see this is now changed, http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AbderaProposal A couple of other things on thwe Wiki I guess will need changing - 3. Identify the ASF resources to be created 3.1 mailing list(s) atom-ppmc (moderated subscriptions) atom-dev atom-commits atom-user 3.2 Subversion repository https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/atom 3.3 Bugzilla Atom With all the talk of being too 'Atom' specific in naming, using it in mailing lists and SVN will be a bit confusing. >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz >> >> Thank you, >> >> - James M Snell >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- snip > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Gav... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
Trademarked. I liked it too. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=b0fu7h.2.1 Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> what was wrong with "Atomate"? I really liked that one. > > So did I, actually. Not that I have a horse in this race. > > --- Noel > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Nick Lothian wrote: > There's also Jakarta FeedParser, which has an Atom parser. > Also the ROME project (http://rome.dev.java.net/) has been debating > requesting incubation at Apache for quite a long time. We've got an > Atom parser, too. IIRC, FeedParser is languishing for need of a community. Roller also has an Atom parser, AIUI. Is there any desire to combine forces in this domain? I saw Dave Johnson expressing interest in this proposal, too. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
> what was wrong with "Atomate"? I really liked that one. So did I, actually. Not that I have a horse in this race. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
What a great idea! The code looks very nice and I'd love to help. - Dave James M Snell wrote: Hello, The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation including mentors. The proposal is also located at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal The initial source for the project is available at: http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz Thank you, - James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- snip - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
> > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Does any one have any problems with simply calling this project > > "Atom"... as in, "The Apache Atom Implementation" ? > > > Well, unless I'm mistaken, it would actually be (at least) > the second Atom implementation at the ASF, since Roller has > one already. Simply calling it Atom implies it has some > special status, especially in the phrase you use above (i.e. > "The Apache Atom Implementation"). So I would not be in > favour of that name. > > -- There's also Jakarta FeedParser, which has an Atom parser. Also the ROME project (http://rome.dev.java.net/) has been debating requesting incubation at Apache for quite a long time. We've got an Atom parser, too. Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Global Summit 2006: Technology Connected Futures -- 17-19 October, Sydney, Australia. Visit our website http://www.educationau.edu.au/globalsummit2006 for further details. _ IMPORTANT: This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain private or confidential information. If you think you may not be the intended recipient, or if you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not reproduce any part of this e-mail or disclose its contents to any other party. This email represents the views of the individual sender, which do not necessarily reflect those of education.au limited except where the sender expressly states otherwise. It is your responsibility to scan this email and any files transmitted with it for viruses or any other defects. education.au limited will not be liable for any loss, damage or consequence caused directly or indirectly by this email. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in no particular order) Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) Did I miss something or what was wrong with "Atomate"? I really liked that one. cheers -- Torsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
How about Nucleus or Nucleo? Or in German: Atomkern ;-) nucleus is taken ...a blogging system cheers -- Torsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abdera (was: Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
Ok, given all the +1's in favor of the name Abdera, I've updated the proposal to use the new name. The wiki has been updated accordingly: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AbderaProposal - James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
On 5/25/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in > no particular order) > > Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) > Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") > Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") > Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) > Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) Of these, I like the last one, Abdera. +1 abdera - robert
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
The project will consist of three distinct components a. An Atom parser/serializer. This is the Axiom-based code that is available in the tar referenced by the proposal b. An Atom Publishing Protocol Client... likely taking the form of a set of utility/helper objects based on the Commons HttpClient c. An Atom Publishing Protocol Server... likely taking the form of a set of interfaces and utility objects intended to allow any application to provide an "atom interface". Ultimately, I would also like to see an "Atom store" developed. The Atom store is a data persistent layer built around the Atom data model and publishing protocol. - James Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > Hi James, > > (Greetings; hope u r doing well :)) > > How far does this project intend to go in implemention Atom? Is it a > client side only, a tool to support Atom generation from some other app, > APP, etc. etc.? > > (Sorry if this is an obvious answer question; I'm not an Atom expert at > all.) > > Thanks, > > Sanjiva. > > On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 16:47 -0700, James M Snell wrote: >> Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in >> no particular order) >> >> Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) >> Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") >> Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") >> Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) >> Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) >> >> I think any of these would work. >> >> - James >> >> Yoav Shapira wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong possibilities. >>> Why not take the stuff that's been suggested so far (there have been >>> 10+ ideas, no?), put it to a vote here, and take the resulting name so >>> the project can move along? If the committers on the project *really* >>> dislike it later, they may change it. >>> >>> Or do you mean that you want to pick something yourself and don't want >>> a community-chosen name? (I don't really care, I'm just curious to >>> see if I misinterpreted your original call for names) >>> >>> Yoav >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
Hi James, (Greetings; hope u r doing well :)) How far does this project intend to go in implemention Atom? Is it a client side only, a tool to support Atom generation from some other app, APP, etc. etc.? (Sorry if this is an obvious answer question; I'm not an Atom expert at all.) Thanks, Sanjiva. On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 16:47 -0700, James M Snell wrote: > Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in > no particular order) > > Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) > Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") > Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") > Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) > Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) > > I think any of these would work. > > - James > > Yoav Shapira wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name > >> selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong > >> possibilities. > > > > Why not take the stuff that's been suggested so far (there have been > > 10+ ideas, no?), put it to a vote here, and take the resulting name so > > the project can move along? If the committers on the project *really* > > dislike it later, they may change it. > > > > Or do you mean that you want to pick something yourself and don't want > > a community-chosen name? (I don't really care, I'm just curious to > > see if I misinterpreted your original call for names) > > > > Yoav > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 16:52 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote: > Of these, I like the last one, Abdera. +1. Sanjiva. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
Martin Cooper wrote: On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in no particular order) Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) +1 to Abdera. Atomico is my second preferred. Samisa... Of these, I like the last one, Abdera. (Anu is also a female first name, and - JAMES notwithstanding - I'm not that fond of picking people's names for project names.) -- Martin. I think any of these would work. - James Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name >> selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong >> possibilities. > > Why not take the stuff that's been suggested so far (there have been > 10+ ideas, no?), put it to a vote here, and take the resulting name so > the project can move along? If the committers on the project *really* > dislike it later, they may change it. > > Or do you mean that you want to pick something yourself and don't want > a community-chosen name? (I don't really care, I'm just curious to > see if I misinterpreted your original call for names) > > Yoav > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
On 25.05.2006, at 01:47, James M Snell wrote: Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in no particular order) Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) I think any of these would work. How about Nucleus or Nucleo? Or in German: Atomkern ;-) Cheers, Erik smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
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+1 to Abdera. Atomic is my second choice of this list. Iaea is very hard to pronounce. Yoav On 5/24/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 to abdera. On 5/24/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in > > no particular order) > > > > Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) > > Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") > > Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") > > Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) > > Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) > > > Of these, I like the last one, Abdera. > > (Anu is also a female first name, and - JAMES notwithstanding - I'm not that > fond of picking people's names for project names.) > > -- > Martin. > > > I think any of these would work. > > > > - James > > > > Yoav Shapira wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name > > >> selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong > > >> possibilities. > > > > > > Why not take the stuff that's been suggested so far (there have been > > > 10+ ideas, no?), put it to a vote here, and take the resulting name so > > > the project can move along? If the committers on the project *really* > > > dislike it later, they may change it. > > > > > > Or do you mean that you want to pick something yourself and don't want > > > a community-chosen name? (I don't really care, I'm just curious to > > > see if I misinterpreted your original call for names) > > > > > > Yoav > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yoav Shapira Nimalex LLC 1 Mifflin Place, Suite 310 Cambridge, MA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.yoavshapira.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
+1 to abdera. On 5/24/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in > no particular order) > > Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) > Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") > Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") > Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) > Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) Of these, I like the last one, Abdera. (Anu is also a female first name, and - JAMES notwithstanding - I'm not that fond of picking people's names for project names.) -- Martin. I think any of these would work. > > - James > > Yoav Shapira wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name > >> selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong > >> possibilities. > > > > Why not take the stuff that's been suggested so far (there have been > > 10+ ideas, no?), put it to a vote here, and take the resulting name so > > the project can move along? If the committers on the project *really* > > dislike it later, they may change it. > > > > Or do you mean that you want to pick something yourself and don't want > > a community-chosen name? (I don't really care, I'm just curious to > > see if I misinterpreted your original call for names) > > > > Yoav > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in no particular order) Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) Of these, I like the last one, Abdera. (Anu is also a female first name, and - JAMES notwithstanding - I'm not that fond of picking people's names for project names.) -- Martin. I think any of these would work. - James Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name >> selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong >> possibilities. > > Why not take the stuff that's been suggested so far (there have been > 10+ ideas, no?), put it to a vote here, and take the resulting name so > the project can move along? If the committers on the project *really* > dislike it later, they may change it. > > Or do you mean that you want to pick something yourself and don't want > a community-chosen name? (I don't really care, I'm just curious to > see if I misinterpreted your original call for names) > > Yoav > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Name options (was Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal])
Ok, so here are a few of the name options that seem to be the safest (in no particular order) Iaea (adapted, of course, from the U.N. nuclear watchdog group) Anu (Dims suggestion, sanskrit for "atom") Atomico (Spanish/Italian for "atomic") Dalton(Suggested by Robert B. Donkin) Abdera(birthplace of the philosopher Demokritos) I think any of these would work. - James Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name >> selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong >> possibilities. > > Why not take the stuff that's been suggested so far (there have been > 10+ ideas, no?), put it to a vote here, and take the resulting name so > the project can move along? If the committers on the project *really* > dislike it later, they may change it. > > Or do you mean that you want to pick something yourself and don't want > a community-chosen name? (I don't really care, I'm just curious to > see if I misinterpreted your original call for names) > > Yoav > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
I've gone through all of the suggestions offered here and have done a variety of trademark/google searches on each. I think for every one that there has been at least two or three relevant hits either on google or USPTO. A community chosen name is great, so long as it doesn't cause any potential trademark headaches. - James Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name >> selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong >> possibilities. > > Why not take the stuff that's been suggested so far (there have been > 10+ ideas, no?), put it to a vote here, and take the resulting name so > the project can move along? If the committers on the project *really* > dislike it later, they may change it. > > Or do you mean that you want to pick something yourself and don't want > a community-chosen name? (I don't really care, I'm just curious to > see if I misinterpreted your original call for names) > > Yoav > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Hi, On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong possibilities. Why not take the stuff that's been suggested so far (there have been 10+ ideas, no?), put it to a vote here, and take the resulting name so the project can move along? If the committers on the project *really* dislike it later, they may change it. Or do you mean that you want to pick something yourself and don't want a community-chosen name? (I don't really care, I'm just curious to see if I misinterpreted your original call for names) Yoav - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Ok, it was worth a shot. I've been stewing over possible name selections for a couple days and can't seem to come up with any strong possibilities. - James Martin Cooper wrote: > On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Does any one have any problems with simply calling this project >> "Atom"... as in, "The Apache Atom Implementation" ? > > > Well, unless I'm mistaken, it would actually be (at least) the second Atom > implementation at the ASF, since Roller has one already. Simply calling it > Atom implies it has some special status, especially in the phrase you use > above (i.e. "The Apache Atom Implementation"). So I would not be in favour > of that name. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does any one have any problems with simply calling this project "Atom"... as in, "The Apache Atom Implementation" ? Well, unless I'm mistaken, it would actually be (at least) the second Atom implementation at the ASF, since Roller has one already. Simply calling it Atom implies it has some special status, especially in the phrase you use above (i.e. "The Apache Atom Implementation"). So I would not be in favour of that name. -- Martin Cooper - James Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz > > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. > > One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks > into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff > into the current working directory. > > -garrett > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Hola, Wouldn't that be confusing? I can see users asking "is Atom the spec or the implementation or both?" I'd prefer a name that's not the same as the spec name. Yoav On 5/24/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does any one have any problems with simply calling this project "Atom"... as in, "The Apache Atom Implementation" ? - James Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz > > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. > > One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks > into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff > into the current working directory. > > -garrett > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yoav Shapira Nimalex LLC 1 Mifflin Place, Suite 310 Cambridge, MA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.yoavshapira.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Does any one have any problems with simply calling this project "Atom"... as in, "The Apache Atom Implementation" ? - James Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz > > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. > > One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks > into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff > into the current working directory. > > -garrett > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Hi All, I too am interested in this project, I am from Axis2/C project and was involved with implementing Axiom in C for Axis2/C project. Hopefully, I too can help from Axiom domain. It is great that this is going to use Axiom, hopefully leading to lots of improvements to Axiom itself. Thanks, Samisa... Hi, I'm Eran Chinthaka, one of the contributors from Axiom and Axis2 projects. I also would like to mentor this project as I have worked a lot with Axiom and involved in integrating Atom and RSS feed generation in to Axis2. But I read the FAQ [1] and it states you have to be a member of ASF to become a mentor. So I wonder whether I can help as a mentor as I'm just a PMC member. -- Chinthaka [1] : http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentors Garrett Rooney wrote: On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation including mentors. The proposal is also located at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal The initial source for the project is available at: http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff into the current working directory. -garrett - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good catch. Ok, we'll keep looking :-) Davanum Srinivas wrote: > http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22wave+systems%22+software seems too > close for comfort. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22wave+systems%22+software seems too close for comfort. On 5/23/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, I did run a search. There were a number of hits for the term "wave", but none of which seem particularly relevant/conflicting. (one business consultant firm, a cigarette brand, a medical science research firm, swimming goggles, etc) - James Davanum Srinivas wrote: > James, > > did you search for trademarks? > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=vmko9c.6.51 > > thanks, > dims > > On 5/23/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Alrighty. Thanks for the all the name suggestions. I've been Googling >> like crazy and the best candidate seems to be "Wave" >> >> The three initial committers are fine with that name. If there are no >> objections, I can go ahead and update the proposal to use that name. >> >> - James >> >> Garrett Rooney wrote: >> > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> >> including mentors. >> >> >> >> The proposal is also located at >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz >> > >> > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps >> > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. >> > >> > One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks >> > into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff >> > into the current working directory. >> > >> > -garrett >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Yes, I did run a search. There were a number of hits for the term "wave", but none of which seem particularly relevant/conflicting. (one business consultant firm, a cigarette brand, a medical science research firm, swimming goggles, etc) - James Davanum Srinivas wrote: > James, > > did you search for trademarks? > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=vmko9c.6.51 > > thanks, > dims > > On 5/23/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Alrighty. Thanks for the all the name suggestions. I've been Googling >> like crazy and the best candidate seems to be "Wave" >> >> The three initial committers are fine with that name. If there are no >> objections, I can go ahead and update the proposal to use that name. >> >> - James >> >> Garrett Rooney wrote: >> > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> >> including mentors. >> >> >> >> The proposal is also located at >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz >> > >> > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps >> > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. >> > >> > One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks >> > into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff >> > into the current working directory. >> > >> > -garrett >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
James, did you search for trademarks? http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=vmko9c.6.51 thanks, dims On 5/23/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alrighty. Thanks for the all the name suggestions. I've been Googling like crazy and the best candidate seems to be "Wave" The three initial committers are fine with that name. If there are no objections, I can go ahead and update the proposal to use that name. - James Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz > > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. > > One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks > into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff > into the current working directory. > > -garrett > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Alrighty. Thanks for the all the name suggestions. I've been Googling like crazy and the best candidate seems to be "Wave" The three initial committers are fine with that name. If there are no objections, I can go ahead and update the proposal to use that name. - James Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz > > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. > > One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks > into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff > into the current working directory. > > -garrett > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On May 23, 2006, at 5:16 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 5/23/06, David N. Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James M Snell wrote: > Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos > Garrett Rooney wrote: >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism There are a bunch of names here, and on the related pages (neutron, fermion, etc...): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton some cool options there but many seem already taken leading on to scientists closely associated with atoms: Dalton Rutherford (quick google seems to indicate that these are less widely used as names for software that many physics terms) FYI, in California, the names/images of real people who lived within the past 75 years or so are protected by laws that are more like copyright than trademarks, and reserved for the exclusive benefit of the person's estate. It was originally intended to protect the image of famous people used in advertising. Similar laws (with varying length of coverage) are found elsewhere. As such, the days when you could name a product after a famous person are long gone unless you can get that person to sign a document that gives us irrevocable permission. Roy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 06:19 -0700, Paul Querna wrote: > > I am currently using the xmlTextReaderRead of libxml2, and it appears > that Axiom is also using that underneath. It has a pull parser abstraction layer to support multiple pull parsers. We currently use libxml2 but that's slow because it builds the dom and then pulls. We have our own native pull parser (guththila) but its not 100% ready yet .. once that's ready that'll become the default parser. We will retain support for libxml2 as that's the default parser in php land for example. Please join axis-c-dev@ws.apache.org .. in any case we should move axiom-c out into the ws-commons axiom project soon. Sanjiva. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"Anu" (Sanskrit word for Atom - [1]) [1] http://www.google.com/search?q=atom+anu+sanskrit On 5/23/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for all the name suggestions given thus far. Keep 'em coming. The two names I have in mind (in order of preference) are: 1. Wave 2. Atomos - James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for all the name suggestions given thus far. Keep 'em coming. The two names I have in mind (in order of preference) are: 1. Wave 2. Atomos - James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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+1. it would be VERY helpful to have an Axiom expert advising on the project, even if it's not in a formal mentor role. - James robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi, > > > hi eran > > I'm Eran Chinthaka, one of the contributors from Axiom and Axis2 >> projects. I also would like to mentor this project as I have worked a >> lot with Axiom and involved in integrating Atom and RSS feed generation >> in to Axis2. > > > i was hoping that some axis folks would jump in :) > > But I read the FAQ [1] and it states you have to be a member of ASF to >> become a mentor. So I wonder whether I can help as a mentor as I'm just >> a PMC member. > > > AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and the > current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something that > should be restricted to members only. > > but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved. you > don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're going > to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe it'd be > a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer. > > - robert > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jumping in with a quick $0.02: > There's also Atomate, a play on automate. > > -- > Martin Cooper I really like that, as it's both a play on automate and also "atom-mate", i.e. a useful companion to Atom. +1! --Glen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 5/23/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hola, I'll jump in with a couple of suggestions, although my record on this is dismal (I don't think any of my name suggestions have ever been accepted in the incubator ;)): From the nuclear domain: - Apache Reactor (borrowing on the nuclear connotation of Atom) - Apache Furnace (similar idea) - Apache Fission (also physics-driven, though implies splitting, i.e. not a unified community, so maybe not) - Apache Fusion (might be great as it implies bringing stuff together) A couple of international twists: - Apache Atomico (italian for atomic) - Apache Atomique (frensh for atomic) And the kicker: Apache Schmelzverfahren (german word for fusion) !! Yoav, I just can't understand why people haven't jumped on your suggestions before! ;-) There's also Atomate, a play on automate. -- Martin Cooper Yoav On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please see my comments in-line. > > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > > Hi, > > > > > > > AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and the > > current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something that > > should be restricted to members only. > > Ok... > > > > > but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved. you > > don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're going > > to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe it'd be > > a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer. > > I leave the discretion, of me adding as a developer, with the original > proposers. But I'm ready to help anytime specially with Axiom. Perhaps I > might even be able to crunch some code. > > Will give more feedback after downloading the original code. > > -- Chinthaka > > > > -- Yoav Shapira Nimalex LLC 1 Mifflin Place, Suite 310 Cambridge, MA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.yoavshapira.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Paul Querna wrote: > Paul Fremantle wrote: >> > > I am a little scared of the Axiom C code right now.. Maybe its really > not that scary to someone who knows it :) Don't be scared its apache code :). Axis2/C team recently released Axis2/C 0.9 and 0.91 based on Axiom/C implementation. > > I am currently using the xmlTextReaderRead of libxml2, and it appears > that Axiom is also using that underneath. > > Do you know of an Axiom C tutorial, introduction, or documentation? See here : http://ws.apache.org/axis2/c/docs/om_tutorial.html. - Chinthaka signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Paul Fremantle wrote: On 5/22/06, Paul Querna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Possibly even donate code for a C based parser. Sounds good. There is also a C version of the Apache Axiom xml model that the proposed ARI codebase has been written with which should make it easier. The Axiom C code hasn't been split off into a separate project, which was done for Axiom/Java, but it is modular within the codebase. I am a little scared of the Axiom C code right now.. Maybe its really not that scary to someone who knows it :) I am currently using the xmlTextReaderRead of libxml2, and it appears that Axiom is also using that underneath. Do you know of an Axiom C tutorial, introduction, or documentation? Things like the README: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/c/axiom/README Appear to be empty :) Thanks, Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 09:10 -0400, Yoav Shapira wrote: > > And the kicker: Apache Schmelzverfahren (german word for fusion) !! +1! Sanjiva. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Hola, I'll jump in with a couple of suggestions, although my record on this is dismal (I don't think any of my name suggestions have ever been accepted in the incubator ;)): From the nuclear domain: - Apache Reactor (borrowing on the nuclear connotation of Atom) - Apache Furnace (similar idea) - Apache Fission (also physics-driven, though implies splitting, i.e. not a unified community, so maybe not) - Apache Fusion (might be great as it implies bringing stuff together) A couple of international twists: - Apache Atomico (italian for atomic) - Apache Atomique (frensh for atomic) And the kicker: Apache Schmelzverfahren (german word for fusion) !! Yoav On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please see my comments in-line. robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi, Hi, > > > AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and the > current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something that > should be restricted to members only. Ok... > > but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved. you > don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're going > to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe it'd be > a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer. I leave the discretion, of me adding as a developer, with the original proposers. But I'm ready to help anytime specially with Axiom. Perhaps I might even be able to crunch some code. Will give more feedback after downloading the original code. -- Chinthaka -- Yoav Shapira Nimalex LLC 1 Mifflin Place, Suite 310 Cambridge, MA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.yoavshapira.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Please see my comments in-line. robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi, Hi, > > > AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and the > current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something that > should be restricted to members only. Ok... > > but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved. you > don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're going > to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe it'd be > a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer. I leave the discretion, of me adding as a developer, with the original proposers. But I'm ready to help anytime specially with Axiom. Perhaps I might even be able to crunch some code. Will give more feedback after downloading the original code. -- Chinthaka signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
what about OPPENHEIMER ?... On 23/05/2006, at 10:16 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 5/23/06, David N. Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James M Snell wrote: > Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos > Garrett Rooney wrote: >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism There are a bunch of names here, and on the related pages (neutron, fermion, etc...): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton some cool options there but many seem already taken leading on to scientists closely associated with atoms: Dalton Rutherford (quick google seems to indicate that these are less widely used as names for software that many physics terms) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, hi eran I'm Eran Chinthaka, one of the contributors from Axiom and Axis2 projects. I also would like to mentor this project as I have worked a lot with Axiom and involved in integrating Atom and RSS feed generation in to Axis2. i was hoping that some axis folks would jump in :) But I read the FAQ [1] and it states you have to be a member of ASF to become a mentor. So I wonder whether I can help as a mentor as I'm just a PMC member. AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and the current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something that should be restricted to members only. but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved. you don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're going to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe it'd be a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer. - robert
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
On 5/23/06, David N. Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James M Snell wrote: > Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos > Garrett Rooney wrote: >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism There are a bunch of names here, and on the related pages (neutron, fermion, etc...): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton some cool options there but many seem already taken leading on to scientists closely associated with atoms: Dalton Rutherford (quick google seems to indicate that these are less widely used as names for software that many physics terms) - robert
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
James M Snell wrote: > Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos > Garrett Rooney wrote: >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism There are a bunch of names here, and on the related pages (neutron, fermion, etc...): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 5/22/06, Paul Querna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Possibly even donate code for a C based parser. Sounds good. There is also a C version of the Apache Axiom xml model that the proposed ARI codebase has been written with which should make it easier. The Axiom C code hasn't been split off into a separate project, which was done for Axiom/Java, but it is modular within the codebase. -- Paul Fremantle VP/Technology, WSO2 and OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Hi, I'm Eran Chinthaka, one of the contributors from Axiom and Axis2 projects. I also would like to mentor this project as I have worked a lot with Axiom and involved in integrating Atom and RSS feed generation in to Axis2. But I read the FAQ [1] and it states you have to be a member of ASF to become a mentor. So I wonder whether I can help as a mentor as I'm just a PMC member. -- Chinthaka [1] : http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentors Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz > > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. > > One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks > into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff > into the current working directory. > > -garrett > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
RE: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Don't forget that although this may be about Atoms, there is Wave-Particle duality, so these things are also waves, which makes for interesting imagery, since they propogate as a wave front across the web. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos FTR, the names we've kicked around include "Covalence" (too close to Covalent), "Valencia" (Spanish for "Valence"), atomos (Latin root for "Atom"), and chimie (French for chemistry). Our lawyers didn't like "Covalence" or "Valencia" so those were shot down during the donation approval process. I'd be happy with just about any name so long as it means we can move forward :-) Molecule, or some variant thereof? They're made out of atoms, after all ;-) -garrett - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos FTR, the names we've kicked around include "Covalence" (too close to Covalent), "Valencia" (Spanish for "Valence"), atomos (Latin root for "Atom"), and chimie (French for chemistry). Our lawyers didn't like "Covalence" or "Valencia" so those were shot down during the donation approval process. I'd be happy with just about any name so long as it means we can move forward :-) - James Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That's fine. We've gone through a number of names internally and pretty >> much gave up on trying to come up with something good. Alternative name >> suggestions would be greatly appreciated. :-) > > How about "Democritus"? > > For those who haven't been crawling around wikipedia looking for names > related to atom, Democritus was the Greek philosopher who came up with > atomism, the theory that all objects in the universe are composed of > small, indestructible elements, atoms. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism > > -garrett > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's fine. We've gone through a number of names internally and pretty much gave up on trying to come up with something good. Alternative name suggestions would be greatly appreciated. :-) How about "Democritus"? For those who haven't been crawling around wikipedia looking for names related to atom, Democritus was the Greek philosopher who came up with atomism, the theory that all objects in the universe are composed of small, indestructible elements, atoms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism -garrett - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That's fine. We've gone through a number of names internally and pretty much gave up on trying to come up with something good. Alternative name suggestions would be greatly appreciated. :-) - James Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On May 22, 2006, at 12:23 PM, James M Snell wrote: > >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz > > -1 under that name. Atom is owned by the IETF. The IETF does not have > reference implementations -- any one implementation is as referenced > as any other. It would be socially rude (and factually incorrect) to > use such a name here. > > Roy > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On May 22, 2006, at 12:23 PM, James M Snell wrote: The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation including mentors. The proposal is also located at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal The initial source for the project is available at: http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz -1 under that name. Atom is owned by the IETF. The IETF does not have reference implementations -- any one implementation is as referenced as any other. It would be socially rude (and factually incorrect) to use such a name here. Roy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: = ARI, an Atom Reference Implementation Proposal = ahhh - acronyms :-) seems 'tis the fate of ASF acronyms to become first names: JAMES -> james ARI -> 'ari ...? it's good to see the young lightweight 'arry Acronym joining his brother James in the Apache stable ;) - robert
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
Paul Querna wrote: >[snip] > I am also interested in helping mentor the project, and to work on a C > implementation of its functionality. Possibly even donate > code for a C based parser. > Excellent. Thank you. - James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz > > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. I am also interested in helping mentor the project, and to work on a C implementation of its functionality. Possibly even donate code for a C based parser. Paul Querna - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your >> feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation >> including mentors. >> >> The proposal is also located at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal >> >> The initial source for the project is available at: >> http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz > > I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps > eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. > Excellent. > One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks > into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff > into the current working directory. > Doh! sorry about that. Fixed. - James > -garrett > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 5/22/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation including mentors. The proposal is also located at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal The initial source for the project is available at: http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality. One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff into the current working directory. -garrett - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]