Re: [gentoo-user] uninstalling gnome
At 13 July, 2003 Andrew Gaffney wrote: > I've recently switched to fluxbox from Gnome. I now want to uninstall > Gnome. I want to unmerge all of Gnome's dependencies that are not > depended on by another package. Is there an easy way to go about this? Well, you could: # cd /usr/portage # emerge unmerge gnome-*/* to unmerge everything related to GNOME. Note that this will also wipe out pretty much all GTK programs. Is this what you want? Note that GNOME is an environment, while fluxbox is just a WM. -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] uninstalling gnome
I've recently switched to fluxbox from Gnome. I now want to uninstall Gnome. I want to unmerge all of Gnome's dependencies that are not depended on by another package. Is there an easy way to go about this? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Silly question: Skipping stuff that emerge suggests
Greets, all..this is probably a *really* easy question, but I'm drawing blanks even after reading manpages & searching forums mail jnichols% These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuildU ] sys-devel/gettext-0.11.5-r1 [0.11.5] [ebuildU ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6j [0.9.6i-r2] [ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.56] [ebuildU ] dev-libs/libpcre-4.2-r1 [3.9-r1] [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] [ebuildU ] app-arch/unzip-5.50-r2 [5.50-r1] [ebuildU ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.5.8 [2.5.7] [ebuildU ] dev-libs/libmcrypt-2.5.7 [2.5.5] [ebuildU ] dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2-r3 [4.3.2] [ebuildU ] dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.5.1 [2.5.0] [ebuildU ] dev-util/dialog-0.9_beta20030308-r1 [0.9_beta20020814] [ebuildU ] dev-lang/nasm-0.98.36 [0.98.34] [ebuildU ] dev-util/intltool-0.26 [0.25] mail jnichols% Wow, Apache 2.x is now unmasked. Cool! But, I don't want it yet. I'm quite happy with 1.3.27 right now. Is there an easy way to just skip Apache 2.x and emerge everything else? Thanks! :) -Jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [DEBATE] Gentoo on laptops
Jerry McBride wrote: Time for me to chime in and add my $0.02 worth... XFCE 4.0 is excellent. It's not quite as full featured as XFCE 3.0, but the improved graphic interface far, far outways it's shortcomings. I am now using it quite extensively on the various laptops I own and admin. Everyone seems to like it so far. Going away on vacation, will give xfce the full out-of-doors treatment. As for ACPI on laptops. The stated goal of the ACPI team is to eventually replace APM in the kernel. APM hardware is old technology which ACPI software will eventually support as well as it does ACPI compliant hardware. ACPI in linux is no where near what it is in windows, but it's coming along quite well. That said, I've been able to finally use the ACPI drivers in kernel 2.4.22-pre4 on a previously "APM only" laptop that I tote around. It's an old Compaq 1278. The apci drivers load and behave well with ACPID... ACPI works so well for me on this laptop I have not even checked the extent of the apm support. I am using 2.4.22-pre3-ac1, so maybe I am using a little apm, however unlikely (new centrino notebook) -Chris I -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who is this mlind@stravar.ca idiot?
Spider wrote: May I also suggest: ~/.procmailrc -8<--- :0 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ->8- many thanks, saves me a moment from having to write it myself. *sigh* gives .ca a bad image ;) -Chris I ... maybe i should have put my procmail rule on my server before writing this... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions (fb color bg, logo, cloop, etc)
Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: 5. Where's the sources for various Gentoo stuff such as emerge? Emerge is python so you can view it live I guess. yes, you can. for example: # vim `which emerge` I'm pretty sure it is /usr/bin/emerge (why wouldnt it be?), but unfortunately can't tell right now as I am in windows[1]. -Chris I [1] Don't even get me started on intel's centrino wireles. I'm buying a linksys pcmcia tomorrow, dammit. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a p100[?]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Gëzim Hoxha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got a p100 machine with 16mb ram, I was thinking > of installing either gentoo or debian [and "try" to > use it only as a web server]. The reason I kind of > wanna install debian in it is that it won't have to do > alot of compiling with debian whereas gentoo lots... > Which one should I install? I've got gentoo on a p100 with 64M ram and a 6G drive. It runs just fine tho X is being tempermental(it wont load for whatever reason... not that that is a big deal as it's a server box). Depending on what your putting on there it can take awhile. Qt takes about a day... but in general I think it took 3 days to get the install done. I'm personally trying to decide if I should freebsd my sons computer or gentoo it. It may well end up on gentoo because it is leaner afik. My sons machine is an amd k2/6 with 128M ram and only a 2G & 400M drives.(well for now til I upgrade something and give him a diffrent drive) - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- "Sanity - that which is within the frame of reference of conventional thought." - Erich Fromm -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EOVCeHHYEek/DSMRAniAAJ4ul8idUF3m9VAkEeB4tPVfzCuu/QCfWNIE 0Bge4u7IDUl3Ua/GU+nnqEs= =BF+A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a p100[?]
On Saturday 12 July 2003 22:49, G�im wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: > Hi, > I've got a p100 machine with 16mb ram, I was thinking > of installing either gentoo or debian [and "try" to > use it only as a web server]. The reason I kind of > wanna install debian in it is that it won't have to do > alot of compiling with debian whereas gentoo lots... > Which one should I install? > > Thanks guys, > ZiM 1) ONLY send once to the mailing list. Send double again and it's /dev/null for you. As for what to install on that slow of a machine? Up to you. Both Debian and Gentoo are gonna take a while, although admittedly Gentoo will take longer. I'm going to be installing Gentoo on a P133 with 80MB of RAM as soon as I can buy a new harddrive. -- Wielder of the mighty +1 LARTsaber of Unsubscribe Instructions At End of Message, the +3 Clue-by-Four of No Attachments to a Mailing List, and the -4 Shield of No Spell Checker http://joseph-a-nagy-jr.homelinux.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [DEBATE] Gentoo on laptops
Time for me to chime in and add my $0.02 worth... XFCE 4.0 is excellent. It's not quite as full featured as XFCE 3.0, but the improved graphic interface far, far outways it's shortcomings. I am now using it quite extensively on the various laptops I own and admin. Everyone seems to like it so far. As for ACPI on laptops. The stated goal of the ACPI team is to eventually replace APM in the kernel. APM hardware is old technology which ACPI software will eventually support as well as it does ACPI compliant hardware. ACPI in linux is no where near what it is in windows, but it's coming along quite well. That said, I've been able to finally use the ACPI drivers in kernel 2.4.22-pre4 on a previously "APM only" laptop that I tote around. It's an old Compaq 1278. The apci drivers load and behave well with ACPID... On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 23:38:44 -0400 Chris I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Timo Boettcher wrote: > >>Another environment to check out might be > >>xfce4, it looks rather impressive. > > > > Got an url for that? screenshots? > > http://www.xfce.org/ > > 3) APM or ACPI ? > >>> > I have tried both and can't make a choice, does anyone have any > experience to share ? > >>> > >>>My Notebook is to old for ACPI *g*. > > > >>If you have a choice, great. > > > > I didn't. > > I was referring more to Jonathan's statement. I don't really have a > choice either. > > 5) Framebuffer or not ? > >>> > Is framebuffer power consuming ? > >>> > >>>I would choose framebuffer over X anytime, because its a lot less > >>>CPU/Memory consuming. I was told that Links and Mplayer run in FB > >>>without problems. > > > >>I use X mainly, but I still have the framebuffer enabled. I'm having > >>some nasty issues switching back and forth between console an X that I > >>havent looked into solving. It depends on your use. Do you merely open > >>alot of xterms and do your work in there? > > > > Wasn't that the reason for wm's being developed? *g* > > > >>You might be better off with framebuffer with 12 (instead of 6) > >>consoles, or use screen. > > > > Thats not a question of FB, but of your inittab. I currently have 8 > > consoles. > > I know, but if you are going to use X and have xterms all over, you dont > really need a dozen consoles. If you were using framebuffer alone, it > might be worth considering, or you could use screen instead/as well. > > -Chris I > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:30pm up 2 days, 9:28, 4 users, load average: 0.40, 0.26, 0.16 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo in a p100[?]
Hi, I've got a p100 machine with 16mb ram, I was thinking of installing either gentoo or debian [and "try" to use it only as a web server]. The reason I kind of wanna install debian in it is that it won't have to do alot of compiling with debian whereas gentoo lots... Which one should I install? Thanks guys, ZiM __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo in a p100[?]
Hi, I've got a p100 machine with 16mb ram, I was thinking of installing either gentoo or debian [and "try" to use it only as a web server]. The reason I kind of wanna install debian in it is that it won't have to do alot of compiling with debian whereas gentoo lots... Which one should I install? Thanks guys, ZiM __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [DEBATE] Gentoo on laptops
Timo Boettcher wrote: Another environment to check out might be xfce4, it looks rather impressive. > Got an url for that? screenshots? http://www.xfce.org/ 3) APM or ACPI ? I have tried both and can't make a choice, does anyone have any experience to share ? My Notebook is to old for ACPI *g*. If you have a choice, great. I didn't. I was referring more to Jonathan's statement. I don't really have a choice either. 5) Framebuffer or not ? Is framebuffer power consuming ? I would choose framebuffer over X anytime, because its a lot less CPU/Memory consuming. I was told that Links and Mplayer run in FB without problems. I use X mainly, but I still have the framebuffer enabled. I'm having some nasty issues switching back and forth between console an X that I havent looked into solving. It depends on your use. Do you merely open alot of xterms and do your work in there? Wasn't that the reason for wm's being developed? *g* You might be better off with framebuffer with 12 (instead of 6) consoles, or use screen. Thats not a question of FB, but of your inittab. I currently have 8 consoles. I know, but if you are going to use X and have xterms all over, you dont really need a dozen consoles. If you were using framebuffer alone, it might be worth considering, or you could use screen instead/as well. -Chris I -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lm-sensors
MIKE MacMartin wrote: > On July 12, 2003 07:45 pm, Norberto BENSA wrote: > > MIKE MacMartin wrote: > > > Question: how does one get this working? What do I need in kernel? > > > > # emerge i2c ? :-) > > perhaps it should be a dependency? > it is, look at lm-sensors-2.7.0-r1.ebuild DEPEND="|| ( >=sys-apps/i2c-2.7.0 >=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r1 >=sys-kernel/lolo-sources-2.4.20.1 >=sys-kernel/xfs-sources-2.4.20_pre4 Regards, Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[gentoo-user] Re: win98 config behind Gentoo router
Klaus D. Neumann wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:22:09 -0500, Andrew Gaffney > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Klaus D. Neumann wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a >>> gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew >>> computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router >>> it worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between >>> gentoo and win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) >>> can print from Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an >>> internet connection. What did I miss? Must be something on the win98 >>> side, since I did not change anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! >> >> Are you using a static or dynamic IP on the Win98 box? If it's a static >> IP, make sure you add the Gentoo box's IP in as the default gateway under >> the TCP/IP properties. > > Yes, I did. Something else must be wrong. on the win98 box run winipcfg and it will tell you what the ip/dns/gateway settings are. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage dependency issues
On 07/12/03 gabriel wrote: > On July 12, 2003 10:18 pm, Spider wrote: > > try: > > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p transcode > > hmmm while from my testing (-p) that would have worked to install > k3b-0.9pre2 initially, it doesn't solve my current problem, that of > how to run a general update without upgrading everything to the ~x86 > level (did a test, looks like about 50packages or so -- not interested > right now). isn't there a way i can tell portage to consider certain > packages to be "unmasked"? Simple fix is to use --upgradeonly instead of (or together with) --update (might not be the best fix, but works). Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge and bootscript.sh
Thanks to Ian and Thorsten, I was able to get an existing client computer to
rsync from an internal server. This works great!!!
Now, to get this working with a new system rebuild. I am installing gentoo
linux using livecd-basic-1.4_rc1-r2.iso and connecting to my internal server.
The problem is that the bootscript.sh tries to connect to my server, but is
not successful. bootscript.sh then tries to connect to quite a number of
systems on the internet without success; the new install computer does not
have access to the internet.
After getting the hard drive setup, and extracting the stage1 tar file, I
added some lines to the /etc/make.conf. The lines where for these variables:
FETCHCOMMAND, SYNC, GENTOO_MIRRORS.
FETCHCOMMAND='rsync -vcrtz --partial --progress --timeout=600
rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-packages/${FILE} ${DISTDIR}'
SYNC="rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-portage"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-packages"
Ok, so what am I misssing? What did I do wrong?
Thanks again for your help.
Harlan...
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage dependency issues
On July 12, 2003 10:18 pm, Spider wrote: > try: > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p transcode hmmm while from my testing (-p) that would have worked to install k3b-0.9pre2 initially, it doesn't solve my current problem, that of how to run a general update without upgrading everything to the ~x86 level (did a test, looks like about 50packages or so -- not interested right now). isn't there a way i can tell portage to consider certain packages to be "unmasked"? -- under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison. - henry david thoreau -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] backup ntfs volume from gentoo boot cd
Tom Wesley wrote: Hi all, I am trying to create a simple disaster recovery solution for a server, but before I started I wanted to check the theory. The server uses a set of 2 SCSI disks (36GB each) mirrored using hardware RAID-1. There are two partitions, the system C and data D. If I boot the system using a gentoo cd, load the correct scsi module can I just cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/backup where /dev/backup is a third disc of 36GB? I don't think cat would get you the results you're looking for. Aslo, sda1 will only get your the 1st partition, and not the MBR. Try "dd if=/dev/sda of=/deb/backup bs=8192". the device /dev/backup has to be as large or larger than /dev/sda. You can adjust the bs parameter as you see fit to enhance performance. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router - solved!
Got it! Thank you so much! It works now! On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:11:28 -0500, Ian Truelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:09:59 -0700 "Klaus D. Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should also make sure that you have the DNS addresses added to > the Win98 box, as in static mode, it won't migrate them over > automatically. Hmm..., I'm not sure what the correct values are here. Can you give me a hint? Get your DNS addresses from the /etc/resolv.conf file on the Gentoo router box, then transfer them to your Win98 box. -- Best regards, Klaus -- Gentoo-Linux = the better choice! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/dnsdomainname question
On 07/12/03 Daniel Robbins wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 02:38:33AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > The "problem" is that agetty displays the domainname as reported by > > /bin/domainname which is the NIS domainname that is stored in > > /etc/nisdomainname. This is irritating many people. Personally, I've > > put my domainname in /etc/domainname and symlinked > > /etc/dnsdomainname and/etc/nisdomainname to it. An IMO better > > approach would be to patch agetty to use dnsdomainname (maybe with > > another letter in /etc/issue). > > These files have confused many people in the past. Thanks to some good > work by Martin Schlemmer, we now have these files set up exactly the > way they should be. Unfortunately, some apps like agetty cater to > Linux systems that have them set up the wrong way. I agree that it > would be a good idea to find a patch for agetty to fix this cosmetic > issue. Ok, I've gathered my remaining C knowledge (doing too much java and scripting these days) and submitted patches for agetty and the manpage on bug 22275. The patch is based on the hostname utility from net-tools. Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage dependency issues
begin quote On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:25:59 -0400 gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i had a purpose in mind: i wanted the latest version of k3b 'cause 0.8 didn't work properly. > > so i tried > > # USE="~x86" emerge k3b Here is where you go wrong, the setting you are after is ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge k3b not USE, useflags define functionality, not stability in this case. > and now i have a working k3b with dvd ripping/encoding support. yay! > but then today i tried the usual: > > # emerge --update --deep world > doing adding the "--upgradeonly" option didn't work either, so now i'm > stuck with a crippled system until i either (a) downgrade my software, > or (b) figure out wht someone is supposed to do in this position. > anyone care to fill me in? Yes, you did install packages that your system will not accept as stable, and thus will find a lot of trouble supporting. The problem is probably (I'm not that much an expert on how the more intrikate workings of portage to really be confident ) that you only satisfied partial dependencies in the builds, and since you didn't install the dependencies, or set all of your tree to accept testing packages, it is struck with an installed package that wants something it can't get. try: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p transcode (no -u there.. only emerge that package and its direct dependencies) and I think you should be ok off. Regards, //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:09:59 -0700 "Klaus D. Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should also make sure that you have the DNS addresses added to > > the Win98 box, as in static mode, it won't migrate them over > > automatically. > > Hmm..., I'm not sure what the correct values are here. Can you give me > a hint? > Get your DNS addresses from the /etc/resolv.conf file on the Gentoo router box, then transfer them to your Win98 box. -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:50:24 -0500, Ian Truelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:24:19 -0700 "Klaus D. Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nope, didn't work here. :-( I would start out by removing the TCP/IP entry on the Win98 box and re-install it. Done. Then set it up to your IP address and default gateway. Done. You should also make sure that you have the DNS addresses added to the Win98 box, as in static mode, it won't migrate them over automatically. Hmm..., I'm not sure what the correct values are here. Can you give me a hint? -- Best regards, Klaus -- Gentoo-Linux = the better choice! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lm-sensors
On July 12, 2003 07:45 pm, Norberto BENSA wrote: > MIKE MacMartin wrote: > > Question: how does one get this working? What do I need in kernel? It's > > complaining about my i2c being too old - but I don't even remember > > compiling it into the kernel. > > > > MIKE > > # emerge i2c ? :-) perhaps it should be a dependency? > Norberto MIKE -- Beware the JabberOrk -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:24:19 -0700 "Klaus D. Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope, didn't work here. :-( > I would start out by removing the TCP/IP entry on the Win98 box and re-install it. Then set it up to your IP address and default gateway. You should also make sure that you have the DNS addresses added to the Win98 box, as in static mode, it won't migrate them over automatically. -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
On 07/12/03 Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > (There was an announcement on -dev). > > There was an announcement here on gentoo-user too...just 4 days ago. > The thread was called '**HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable > status'. I thought so but couldn't find the thread :) Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout, sysvinit
On 07/12/03 Norberto BENSA wrote:
> Marius Mauch wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:05:45 -0300 Norberto BENSA wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > This is a question to devs. Why does baselayout depends on
> > > sysvinit 2.84? Why is it a HARD depend? I mean, why there's no a
> > > separated sysvinit ebuild?
> > >
> >
> > Why do you think that sysvinit is a dependency of baselayout? I've
> > checked all 3 ebuilds for baselayout (1.8.5.9, 1.8.6.7, 1.8.6.8-r1)
> > in my tree and none has sysvinit as a dependency, neither does it
> > show up in "emerge -ep baselayout".
> >
>
> Read the source ;-) Look inside baselayout 1.8.6.8-r1 ebuild
>
> # SysvInit version
> SVIV="2.84"
>
> S2="${WORKDIR}/sysvinit-${SVIV}/src"
>
> src_unpack() {
>
>unpack sysvinit-${SVIV}.tar.gz
>
>
> There must be a reason I'm overlooking. There used to be a separate
> ebuild for sysvinit, but now it's included inside baselayout, why?
> Why? Why? (That's it, if you don't mind me ask :-)
Ok, but that's not a dependency. Gentoo still uses /sbin/init and
/etc/inittab for booting, I guess that's the whole reason. You see this
if you read src_install() :-P If you're going to write a /sbin/init that
uses the gentoo runlevel style nobody would stop you, but until then
/sbin/init from sysvinit will do the job.
Marius
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Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
Finne Boonen wrote: > wanneer moet jij in Brussel izijn voor Joachim? > English please. Or I'll start posting in Español ;-) Thanks, Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] w/o devfsd - Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/root
Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote: > On Saturday 12 July 2003 01:21 am, Norberto BENSA wrote: > > > I'm not using devfsd and haven't been since I installed Gentoo. > > > > What do you mean you don't use devfsd? Have you modified your init > > scripts? > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24361 > Thanks. Regards, Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On July 12, 2003 07:11 pm, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: > Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a > gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew > computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router it > worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo and > win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print from > Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. What > did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change > anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! i'd check to see what's going on on your router's firewall. (a) is it running? (b) is it running nat? (c) are your forward rules working to direct traffic between the right interfaces? -- in the past we had little to do with other races. evolution teaches us that we must fight that which is different in order secure land, food, and mates for ourselves, but we must reach a point when the nobility of intellect asserts itself and says: no. we need not be afraid of those we are different, we can embrace that difference and learn from it. - g'kar, babylon 5 "the ragged edge" -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage dependency issues
so far i've been so very pleased with gentoo... so pleased in fact that i decided to try some of the more risky stuff and install a masked package or two. the thinking behind this wasn't entirely adventure-driven however, i had a purpose in mind: i wanted the latest version of k3b 'cause 0.8 didn't work properly. so i tried # USE="~x86" emerge k3b that't didn't work though 'cause it just tried to replace what i had with 0.8. so i tried this: # emerge /usr/portage/app-cdr/k3b/k3b-0.9_pre2.ebuild and sure enough, that worked just fine... except that now the dvd-ripper/encoder wasn't working, so i did: # emerge /usr/portage/media-video/transcode/transcode-0.6.8.ebuild # emerge /usr/portage/media-libs/divx4linux/divx4linux-20030428.ebuild and now i have a working k3b with dvd ripping/encoding support. yay! but then today i tried the usual: # emerge --update --deep world and instead of getting the usual "you have these packages to update", i got this: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies - !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy ">=media-libs/divx4linux-20030428" have been masked. !!!(dependency required by "media-video/transcode-0.6.8" [ebuild]) !!! Problem with ebuild media-video/transcode-0.6.8 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. !!! Depgraph creation failed. doing adding the "--upgradeonly" option didn't work either, so now i'm stuck with a crippled system until i either (a) downgrade my software, or (b) figure out wht someone is supposed to do in this position. anyone care to fill me in? btw, outside of the above, i've found no problems with k3b-0.9pre2 so i'd suggest that it get unmasked... where do i make this suggestion? thanks -- corporation, n. an ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - ambrose bierce -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/dnsdomainname question
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 02:38:33AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > The "problem" is that agetty displays the domainname as reported by > /bin/domainname which is the NIS domainname that is stored in > /etc/nisdomainname. This is irritating many people. Personally, I've put > my domainname in /etc/domainname and symlinked /etc/dnsdomainname and > /etc/nisdomainname to it. An IMO better approach would be to patch > agetty to use dnsdomainname (maybe with another letter in /etc/issue). These files have confused many people in the past. Thanks to some good work by Martin Schlemmer, we now have these files set up exactly the way they should be. Unfortunately, some apps like agetty cater to Linux systems that have them set up the wrong way. I agree that it would be a good idea to find a patch for agetty to fix this cosmetic issue. Best Regards, -- Daniel Robbins Chief Architect, Gentoo Linux http://www.gentoo.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lm-sensors
MIKE MacMartin wrote: > Question: how does one get this working? What do I need in kernel? It's > complaining about my i2c being too old - but I don't even remember > compiling it into the kernel. > > MIKE # emerge i2c ? :-) Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
Klaus D. Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > What > did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change > anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! Win98's gateway? HTH, Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] filesystem error?
Gent00 wrote:
> El Jue 10 Jul 2003 02:42, Norberto BENSA escribió:
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${William Kenworthy}
> | Wednesday 09 July 2003 08:27 pm
> |
> | > reiserfs is fantastic - much better than ext3 which occaionally acts
> | > like the hack that it is
> |
> | I couldn't say it better :-)
>
> Sorry If I disagree with you, but reiser-fs cost me a full installation
> of Caldera OpenLinux... I turned off the computer one day, and in the
Heh, that's the cost of using SCO :-)
> following day I found that all the things once I had... had gone :)
> So.. I... I'm not so plenty sure about reiser-fs.. That's why I use..
> XFS. Never a problem.
My history with XFS is the same as yours with ReiserFS. I got tired of turning
my box on just to find that ALL my files were zero'ed :-/
Anyway, I like Reiserfs, XFS, JFS. They are 3 superb filesystems (can't say
that for ext3.)
Norberto
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Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout, sysvinit
Marius Mauch wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:05:45 -0300 Norberto BENSA wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is a question to devs. Why does baselayout depends on sysvinit
> > 2.84? Why is it a HARD depend? I mean, why there's no a separated
> > sysvinit ebuild?
> >
>
> Why do you think that sysvinit is a dependency of baselayout? I've
> checked all 3 ebuilds for baselayout (1.8.5.9, 1.8.6.7, 1.8.6.8-r1) in
> my tree and none has sysvinit as a dependency, neither does it show up
> in "emerge -ep baselayout".
>
Read the source ;-) Look inside baselayout 1.8.6.8-r1 ebuild
# SysvInit version
SVIV="2.84"
S2="${WORKDIR}/sysvinit-${SVIV}/src"
src_unpack() {
unpack sysvinit-${SVIV}.tar.gz
There must be a reason I'm overlooking. There used to be a separate ebuild for
sysvinit, but now it's included inside baselayout, why? Why? Why? (That's it,
if you don't mind me ask :-)
Saludos,
Norberto
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[gentoo-user] -fPIC
Hello, is -fPIC a good thing (tm) ? What exactly does it do? Thanks, Norberto pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[gentoo-user] new docs?
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 07:32:07PM -0400, Chris Bare wrote: > Sorry, if I missed it, this is the first mention I've seen of re-written > install docs. When did the re-written ones go up and where are they? > What's different in the new version? I added a complete fdisk and mkfs tutorial to the install docs a couple of months ago. There have also been many other clarifications and improvements made by our documentation team. Best Regards, -- Daniel Robbins Chief Architect, Gentoo Linux http://www.gentoo.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
Nope, didn't work here. :-( On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:36:38 -0600, Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:11:41 -0700 "Klaus D. Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router it worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo and win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print from Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. What did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! -- Best regards, I use Win98 behind a hardwared router; should be the same for using a gentoo router. You have the correct choices. All you need to do is right click on Network Neighborhood, select properties, scroll down until you select the TCP/IP -> your ethernet card and select properties: IP address check Obtain and IP address automatically Gateway, nothing Wins check use DHCP DNS check disable This works for me. Good luck. -- Best regards, Klaus -- Gentoo-Linux = the better choice! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow
No Real life: may be published Kinda hard to see a "standard install of gentoo being left in the dust by debian ... gotta justify it somehow! BillK On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 07:29, Zack Gilburd wrote: > Troll. -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tipp: more X sessions starting from kde panel
You can also use qingy (http://qingy.sourceforge.net), that allow you to log in into as many enviroments as you want, all at the same time. Sorry about publicizing my own software, but I couldn't resist ;-) Regards, Michele Noberasco -- Linux *IS* user friendly: it just appears to be selective who it is friend with! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrw not detected
On 07/13/03 Jorge Almeida wrote: > The relevant (I think) data: > > hda: HD > hdb: DVDROM > hdc:HD > hdd: - > hde:CDRW (LG ATAPI) > hdf: - > hdg: 250 Iomega zip > hdg: - Check if the host controller for hde-hdh is detected or try to move the cdrw to hdd. Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/dnsdomainname question
On 07/12/03 Ian Truelsen wrote: > I was looking at the newly re-written install docs (well, done by the > way) and I noticed that the hostname looks to be being broken up as > /etc/hostname as the machine name and /etc/dnsdomainname as the domain > segment. So, if I have mymachine.mydomain.com, then hostname should > have mymachine in it and dnsdomainname should have mydomain.com. > > When I set up my machine like that, on login my hostname is reported > as mymachine.(none). I can only get my full name in by setting the > whole thing in /etc/hostname, and then is reports as > mymachine.mydomain.com.(none). > > Did I misinterpret the documentation, or miss a step? The "problem" is that agetty displays the domainname as reported by /bin/domainname which is the NIS domainname that is stored in /etc/nisdomainname. This is irritating many people. Personally, I've put my domainname in /etc/domainname and symlinked /etc/dnsdomainname and /etc/nisdomainname to it. An IMO better approach would be to patch agetty to use dnsdomainname (maybe with another letter in /etc/issue). Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:11:41 -0700 "Klaus D. Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind > a gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew > computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as > router it worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping > between gentoo and win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box > (samba) can print from Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get > an internet connection. What did I miss? Must be something on the > win98 side, since I did not change anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! > > -- > Best regards, I use Win98 behind a hardwared router; should be the same for using a gentoo router. You have the correct choices. All you need to do is right click on Network Neighborhood, select properties, scroll down until you select the TCP/IP -> your ethernet card and select properties: IP address check Obtain and IP address automatically Gateway, nothing Wins check use DHCP DNS check disable This works for me. Good luck. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
Marius Mauch wrote: (There was an announcement on -dev). There was an announcement here on gentoo-user too...just 4 days ago. The thread was called '**HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status'. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
William Kenworthy wrote: As a general principle, shouldnt apache 2 (and mysql 4) be slotted and something like gcc-config used to switch between them to keep everybody happy? I don't think this can really be done this way. Slots and programs like gcc-config are all good for libraries and programs that are not running all the time, but for a constantly running daemon, this just doesn't work. How would you switch between them? Ask as startup? That's not practical. Stop the daemon, switch version, start daemon? Anyone running a production machine really can't afford to do this more than once. This approach also wouldn't work because the binaries names and install directories are the same between versions. It works with different major versions of libraries because they're named differently. It works with gcc because each installation has its own install directory. How hard is it to manually mask apache-2* and mysql-4*? Why are people turning this into such a big deal? I wasn't using Gentoo when Gnome went from 1.x to 2.x or when KDE went from 2.x to 3.x, but did people make as much fuss? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:28:54 -0700 Zack Gilburd wrote: > On Saturday 12 July 2003 12:53 pm, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: > > right now I took a "emerge -DUp world" and found something > > disturbing.[ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.57] > > [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] > > > > why the hell would I upgrade my apache 1.3x to 2.0x? > > and mysql 3x to 4x. Not until I decide anyway. > > > > Can anyone please tell me why this is suddenly happening? > > Because you're running ~x86. If the box is a server, you shouldn't be > running ~x86 unless you really know what you're doing. Which is > probably not likely considering you're posting to an ML about trivial > sysad tasks. No, he isn't running ~x86. Apache-2 and Mysql-4 have been moved to x86 (There was an announcement on -dev). Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
On 13 Jul 2003 08:13:08 +0800 William Kenworthy wrote: > As a general principle, shouldnt apache 2 (and mysql 4) be slotted and > something like gcc-config used to switch between them to keep > everybody happy? At least apache is slotted and has 2 different startscripts and config dirs in /etc. Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
As a general principle, shouldnt apache 2 (and mysql 4) be slotted and something like gcc-config used to switch between them to keep everybody happy? BillK On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 04:58, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 12 July 2003 22:48, Yannick Le Saint wrote: > > On Saturday 12 July 2003 19:53, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: > > > right now I took a "emerge -DUp world" and found something disturbing. > > > [ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.57] > > > [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] > > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] w/o devfsd - Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/root
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 July 2003 01:21 am, Norberto BENSA wrote: > > I'm not using devfsd and haven't been since I installed Gentoo. > > What do you mean you don't use devfsd? Have you modified your init > scripts? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24361 - -- ^^^ Kurt There is no good nor evil; there is only power. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EKQs0cAvx3ELfKARAjaeAKCXyKMJaMcmKFDesLfn8iC0w+/1YgCgojDN xasbqDiwFhCIOpBsEM3cM6g= =mLRe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:00:41 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 04:59:38PM -0700, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:23:41 -0700, Zack Gilburd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Saturday 12 July 2003 04:11 pm, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a >>gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew >>computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router >>it >>worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo >>and >>win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print >>from >>Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. >>What >>did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change >>anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! > >It depends on whether or not the box is broadcasting via DHCP. eth0(to internet) is a dhcp. Does this count? >If the box is broadcasting, no extra configuration is needed. If the box >is not broadcasting, you need to give the win98 box a static IP (just >pick one that's not in use) and make the gateway the Gentoo box's IP. I gave win98 the address 192.168.1.2, the gentoo gateway is 192.168.1.2 My guess is you want 192.168.1.1 for the latter. It needs to be the address of the Linux side of the connection, not the Windows side. You're telling Windows the address of the host that will forward its packets to other networks. Yes, of course. This was a typo. Sorry! Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Best regards, Klaus -- Gentoo-Linux = the better choice! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 04:59:38PM -0700, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:23:41 -0700, Zack Gilburd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >On Saturday 12 July 2003 04:11 pm, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a > >>gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew > >>computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router > >>it > >>worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo > >>and > >>win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print > >>from > >>Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. > >>What > >>did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change > >>anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! > > > >It depends on whether or not the box is broadcasting via DHCP. > eth0(to internet) is a dhcp. Does this count? > > >If the box is broadcasting, no extra configuration is needed. If the box > >is not broadcasting, you need to give the win98 box a static IP (just > >pick one that's not in use) and make the gateway the Gentoo box's IP. > > I gave win98 the address 192.168.1.2, the gentoo gateway is 192.168.1.2 My guess is you want 192.168.1.1 for the latter. It needs to be the address of the Linux side of the connection, not the Windows side. You're telling Windows the address of the host that will forward its packets to other networks. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:22:09 -0500, Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Klaus D. Neumann wrote: Hi, Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router it worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo and win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print from Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. What did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! Are you using a static or dynamic IP on the Win98 box? If it's a static IP, make sure you add the Gentoo box's IP in as the default gateway under the TCP/IP properties. Yes, I did. Something else must be wrong. -- Best regards, Klaus -- Gentoo-Linux = the better choice! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:23:41 -0700, Zack Gilburd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 12 July 2003 04:11 pm, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: Hi, Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router it worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo and win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print from Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. What did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! It depends on whether or not the box is broadcasting via DHCP. eth0(to internet) is a dhcp. Does this count? If the box is broadcasting, no extra configuration is needed. If the box is not broadcasting, you need to give the win98 box a static IP (just pick one that's not in use) and make the gateway the Gentoo box's IP. I gave win98 the address 192.168.1.2, the gentoo gateway is 192.168.1.2 For the DNS settings, that depends on whether or not the Gentoo box is running a daemon like bind. Couldn't find any bind in my process table. Oh sh... ! Now I screwed up the win98 configuration completely. Not even ping works any more. Can we get it from the begining? The following network components are installed: Client for Microsoft Networks VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter TCP/IP File and printer sharing for MS networks Is this correct so far? -- Best regards, Klaus -- Gentoo-Linux = the better choice! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] cdrw not detected
I'm trying to setup cd burning, but it seems that the CDRW drive is not even being detected. I searched the forums, but found nothing relevant for this stage. Any suggestion on what to do at this point? TIA The relevant (I think) data: hda: HD hdb: DVDROM hdc:HD hdd: - hde:CDRW (LG ATAPI) hdf: - hdg: 250 Iomega zip hdg: - MB: Asus P4T-F kernel 2.4.21 vanilla without ATAPI_CD support, with scsi emulation support in /boot/grub/grub.conf : title=gentoo_vanilla root (hd1,2) kernel (hd1,2)/boot/bzImage_gentoo_vanilla root=/dev/hdc3 hde=ide-scsi video=radeon:[EMAIL PROTECTED] root $ cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 2.01a14 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'IDE ' 'DVD-ROM 16X ' '2.0 ' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * root $ lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted ide-scsi 10512 0 sg 28428 0 (autoclean) sr_mod 16024 0 (autoclean) cdrom 29600 0 (autoclean) [sr_mod] radeon107972 17 ipt_TOS 1016 12 (autoclean) ipt_LOG 3384 7 (autoclean) ipt_REJECT 3256 4 (autoclean) ipt_state568 13 (autoclean) iptable_mangle 2136 1 (autoclean) ip_nat_irc 2448 0 (unused) iptable_nat16920 1 [ip_nat_irc] ip_conntrack_irc3024 1 iptable_filter 1740 1 (autoclean) ip_tables 12280 9 [ipt_TOS ipt_LOG ipt_REJECT ipt_state iptable_mangle iptable_nat iptable_filter] vfat 10860 1 (autoclean) fat32696 0 (autoclean) [vfat] root $ dmesg|grep -i rw sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 16x/16x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray root $ dmesg|grep -i rom hdb: IDE DVD-ROM 16X, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Vendor: IDE Model: DVD-ROM 16X Rev: 2.0 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 -- Jorge Almeida -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow
On Saturday 12 July 2003 04:29 pm, Zack Gilburd wrote: > Troll. Eh, maybe I was a little harsh here... .21's IDE core code was completely rewritten and has given, in some cases, 120% performance gains over .20's IDE code. It's entirely unfair to compare the two kernels. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com GnuPG Key ID: A79A45668240AB6C pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow
Looks like I picked the wrong kernel. :( Is there a kernel that is
regarded as the "best" performer for processing like gimp, spreadsheets
etc ("scientific workstation" or "graphic workstation" might be the
categories?) Or is just switching off low-latency and pre-empt with
gentoo sources likely to be fastest? Pity that desktop responsiveness
etc is so hard to measure, that we didnt look at that.
The gentoo kernel document mislead me a bit here. It might need a bit
of a review to make the distinction that gentoo-sources is for
interactive desktop usage, at a significant penalty to performance -
performance has a particular meaning here.
The comparison was meant to be as standard an install as practical, but
that soon became impossible due to debian stables old packages etc,
whilst gentoo-sources is the reccomended kernel for gentoo, it seems to
have exacted a penalty.
There is also spiders comment on -O2 opts and celerons which will need
confirming on this hardware at some time. What does Mandrake do here?
Unfortunately, we are out of time, so the ideas here will have to wait
...
Gotta look at this some more ...
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 00:35, Daniel Robbins wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 04:27:38PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > Mandrake and debian (monolithic, no modules) used the 2.4.21 kernel,
> > against 2.4.20 gentoo-sources with preempt etc (it seems gentoo is
> > behind here?)
>
> To compare performance, you should use similarly configured kernels.
> Preempt decreases overall performance significantly but also increases
> interactivity greatly. Things will benchmark slower with it enabled,
> like you are experiencing.
>
> Best Regards,
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/dnsdomainname question
> > I was looking at the newly re-written install docs (well, done by the > > way) and I noticed that the hostname looks to be being broken up as Sorry, if I missed it, this is the first mention I've seen of re-written install docs. When did the re-written ones go up and where are they? What's different in the new version? -- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
On Saturday 12 July 2003 12:53 pm, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: > right now I took a "emerge -DUp world" and found something disturbing. > [ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.57] > [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] > > why the hell would I upgrade my apache 1.3x to 2.0x? > and mysql 3x to 4x. Not until I decide anyway. > > Can anyone please tell me why this is suddenly happening? Because you're running ~x86. If the box is a server, you shouldn't be running ~x86 unless you really know what you're doing. Which is probably not likely considering you're posting to an ML about trivial sysad tasks. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com GnuPG Key ID: A79A45668240AB6C pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
On Saturday 12 July 2003 04:17 pm, Spider wrote: > begin quote > On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:13:38 + > > Dan Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some suggestions: > > > > 1. the ability to see what ebuilds were > >installed on the system and what version they are. > > You already got the solutions of qpkg and emerge.log from others, let me > come here with some more :) If you don't believe him, `qpkg -I -v`. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com GnuPG Key ID: A79A45668240AB6C pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who is this mlind@stravar.ca idiot?
begin quote On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 23:11:12 +0100 Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I keep getting failure notices for this fellow. Anyone else? > > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at stravar.ca. > > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > > addresses. > > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) > its the person who commented on the recent decision to move apache 2.x series to stable. //Spider irate developer -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Saturday 12 July 2003 04:11 pm, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a > gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew > computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router it > worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo and > win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print from > Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. What > did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change > anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! It depends on whether or not the box is broadcasting via DHCP. If the box is broadcasting, no extra configuration is needed. If the box is not broadcasting, you need to give the win98 box a static IP (just pick one that's not in use) and make the gateway the Gentoo box's IP. For the DNS settings, that depends on whether or not the Gentoo box is running a daemon like bind. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com GnuPG Key ID: A79A45668240AB6C pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
wanneer moet jij in Brussel izijn voor Joachim? Finne On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 04:11:41PM -0700, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a > > gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew > > computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router it > > worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo and > > win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print from > > Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. What > > did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change > > anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! > > Are you manually configuring the win98's network settings, or using DHCP? > If manually, you need to be sure to set win98 to use the Linux host as > a gateway. If using DHCP, that should be happening automatically. > > Nathan Meyers > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > mvg Finne Boonen *** Beware of the spring, it'll jump you when you least expect it -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
Klaus D. Neumann wrote: Hi, Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router it worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo and win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print from Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. What did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! Are you using a static or dynamic IP on the Win98 box? If it's a static IP, make sure you add the Gentoo box's IP in as the default gateway under the TCP/IP properties. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 04:11:41PM -0700, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a > gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew > computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router it > worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo and > win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print from > Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. What > did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change > anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! Are you manually configuring the win98's network settings, or using DHCP? If manually, you need to be sure to set win98 to use the Linux host as a gateway. If using DHCP, that should be happening automatically. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/dnsdomainname question
Ian Truelsen wrote: I was looking at the newly re-written install docs (well, done by the way) and I noticed that the hostname looks to be being broken up as /etc/hostname as the machine name and /etc/dnsdomainname as the domain segment. So, if I have mymachine.mydomain.com, then hostname should have mymachine in it and dnsdomainname should have mydomain.com. When I set up my machine like that, on login my hostname is reported as mymachine.(none). I can only get my full name in by setting the whole thing in /etc/hostname, and then is reports as mymachine.mydomain.com.(none). Did I misinterpret the documentation, or miss a step? I have a few different Gentoo boxes. My main one was setup before the install docs were re-written with the dnsdomainname thing. It started showing that around 2 months ago. A few newer boxes that I've setup in the last month are showing that also. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who is this mlind@stravar.ca idiot?
Peter Ruskin wrote: I keep getting failure notices for this fellow. Anyone else? I don't know who he is, but I'm beginning to not like him :( -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
begin quote On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:13:38 + Dan Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some suggestions: > > 1. the ability to see what ebuilds were >installed on the system and what version they are. > You already got the solutions of qpkg and emerge.log from others, let me come here with some more :) etcat (recent tool that people have been getting more hots for ;) epm rpm command like abilities, for us who are used to rpm based machines as well as manual handling, look inside /var/db/pkg . Its wonderful how much information you can gain and use with some simple shellscripting. (grep is good, grep is the way... ) Glad you found our work useful //Spider irate developer -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router
Hi, Could anyone please give me a hint how to configure a win98 box behind a gentoo router? Just replaced Dad's broken WinXP box with a brandnew computer where I installed win98 for him. Using my Gentoo box as router it worked perfectly with Dad's old computer. Now I can ping between gentoo and win98, I can manage Dad's files from my Gentoo box (samba) can print from Gentoo to his printer, but his win98 can't get an internet connection. What did I miss? Must be something on the win98 side, since I did not change anything on my Gentoo box. TIA! -- Best regards, Klaus -- Gentoo-Linux = the better choice! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
begin quote On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:58:58 +0200 Svein Harald Soleim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > right now I took a "emerge -DUp world" and found something > > > disturbing.[ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.57] > > > [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] > > > > > > why the hell would I upgrade my apache 1.3x to 2.0x? > > > and mysql 3x to 4x. Not until I decide anyway. > > > > Should not you then ` emerge " > ??? > > No thats the problem, you are forced on to apache2 instead of just > going on with the 1.3.x Ermm. No, you are not forced. You have the same option as always, that is -not- to update the package. I have this sense that people overabuse the "world" target :-/ if you had followed the announcement as well as the following and initiating discussion you'd have noticed that apache-2.x did make it into stable gentoo, but that we do not force 1.3, and that apache 1.3 series will remain in the tree as well as be interoperable and maintained. No, We dont force you to upgrade. Upgrading is a choice users make. //Spider irate developer -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] /etc/dnsdomainname question
I was looking at the newly re-written install docs (well, done by the way) and I noticed that the hostname looks to be being broken up as /etc/hostname as the machine name and /etc/dnsdomainname as the domain segment. So, if I have mymachine.mydomain.com, then hostname should have mymachine in it and dnsdomainname should have mydomain.com. When I set up my machine like that, on login my hostname is reported as mymachine.(none). I can only get my full name in by setting the whole thing in /etc/hostname, and then is reports as mymachine.mydomain.com.(none). Did I misinterpret the documentation, or miss a step? -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 13 July 2003 01:05, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: > Svein Harald Soleim wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > right now I took a "emerge -DUp world" and found something disturbing. > > [ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.57] > > [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] > > > > why the hell would I upgrade my apache 1.3x to 2.0x? > > and mysql 3x to 4x. Not until I decide anyway. > > Why not? What are your reasons not to move? well lets se, mabybe I would like to have my testing area at the same level as the one I'm testing it against, apart for not moving on is, apache 2.x is not stable enough and not good enough suported by other progs (please not flame me) and mysql 3x is for varius of inhouse programs. which haven't been fixed and/or tested on 4x. > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list - -- gnuPG key: ID 915B0745 at http://pgp.mit.edu/ http://www.fribyte.uib.no/~svein/PublicKey.asc Key fingerprint = 0123 B179 0994 F5C7 12D3 F253 E0AA 6A67 915B 0745 Registered Linux User #319622 'The maths is easy,' said Chaos. AH? WELL, MATHS, said Death, dismissively. GENERALLY I NEVER GET MUCH FURTHER THAN SUBTRACTION. Svein Harald Soleim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EI5d4KpqZ5FbB0URAjmPAJ9JLc1FKD7ReQbqBW02Iq0nDbrdYgCeIqGO wvt42wYJZZj3KFj49JDeYZE= =12rV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge packages locally
* Harlan (2003-07-12 23:03 +0200)
> I have another question. How do I get my local computer to serve files from
> /usr/portage/distfiles?
It's described in the Howto:
[gentoo-packages]
path= /usr/portage/distfiles
comment = Gentoo Linux Portage packages (distfiles)
If you are using "rsync-gentoo-portage.sh" to sync you'll have to
point it to
#DST="/opt/gentoo-rsync/portage/"
DST="/usr/portage/"
Also add "--exclude distfiles" to "OPTS" in the script or you will
lose all your packages.
"rsyncd.conf" should contain
dont compress = *.ace \
*.arj \
*.bz \
*.bz2 \
*.cab \
*.deb \
*.gz \
*.iso \
*.jar \
*.lha \
*.lzh \
*.rar \
*.rpm \
*.sqx \
*.taz \
*.tbz \
*.tgz \
*.tz \
*.Z \
*.z \
*.zip
And finally:
FETCHCOMMAND='rsync -vcrtz --delete-after --partial --progress --timeout=600
rsync://local_server/gentoo-packages/${FILE} ${DISTDIR}'
I first omitted the "-z" and "emerge sync" hung at the first sync.
Thorsten
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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
Hi, qpkg to show the installed packages has already be mentioned, I just want to add that "emerge search" supports regular expressions and will also report the installed and available versions for all packages that match the given expression. Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who is this mlind@stravar.ca idiot?
Peter Ruskin wrote: I keep getting failure notices for this fellow. Anyone else? Hi. This is the qmail-send program at stravar.ca. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) Peter I'm getting too. This is precisely what the list wishes to avoid by not setting a default reply to address I guess. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions (fb color bg, logo, cloop, etc)
Dan Foster wrote: A couple questions: 1. How can I get the same kind of coloured background - just like the one from the install CD? I find it easier to read than a white-text-on-black background. Maybe I'm weird, but that's just me. ;) 2. How can I keep the Gentoo logo at the bottom? I think it'd be a great way to advertise Gentoo while I'm using the console. Most of my co-workers are big Gentoo fans now. The framebuffer logos aren't enough because they're small, only at the top left corner, and disappears as soon as something is done late at boot time (consolefonts run, perhaps?). http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=49036 4. There isn't a command to list installed package name and version, is there? If not, where is that information stored, so that I might whip up something to parse it? I know it exists _somewhere_ because emerge -u is able to figure out what already is installed and at what version. emerge gentoolkit Then use qpkg and do etcat -f gentoolkit to find out what files it has placed on your system. 5. Where's the sources for various Gentoo stuff such as emerge? Emerge is python so you can view it live I guess. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 July 2003 23:05, Peter Ruskin wrote: > On Saturday 12 Jul 2003 21:16, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: > > yeah. But I need to do that after every emerge sync ;( > > No you don't > > > btw. The file is in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask > > No it isn't. The file he was talking about is > /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask. Thanks I had to make the whole three. no more make error on dosemu ;) > If you don't have it, create it. There is also > /etc/portage/package.unmask, which does the reverse. > > Peter - -- gnuPG key: ID 915B0745 at http://pgp.mit.edu/ http://www.fribyte.uib.no/~svein/PublicKey.asc Key fingerprint = 0123 B179 0994 F5C7 12D3 F253 E0AA 6A67 915B 0745 Registered Linux User #319622 'The maths is easy,' said Chaos. AH? WELL, MATHS, said Death, dismissively. GENERALLY I NEVER GET MUCH FURTHER THAN SUBTRACTION. Svein Harald Soleim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EIkI4KpqZ5FbB0URAszbAKC1saR11qdjht1NJiKpywEojVOhdQCfeieG 8ybDqUVhZvopa/WfQHM6sRU= =fZnP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo isn't slow :)
Daniel Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ ... ] > I think that a modern uni-processor system with preempt and the > low-latency patches enabled would be great for audio work. I don't > think you'd specifically need SMP, unless maybe I'm unaware of some > special situations where it would be needed. I'd agree with this, but since I mostly live on dual systems I'd just like to say that you _know_ you're on a dual box when you do a lot of stuff. :-) it's very nice to be able to emerge world, watch a movie, surf with galeon, read news over ssh and never ever feel latency or skipping anywhere -- on a dual 450Mhz. the worst culprit is actually flash, which I need to have installed for a few really annoying reasons. a single 600Mhz I have doesn't yield the same carefree environment, even though it runs 2.5.7* with all the trimmings. if you're just doing audio, a single CPU will be fine. if you're planning on a couple of other CPU-intensive things at the same time, well, look at your wallet and decide. :-) -- Terje -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Who is this mlind@stravar.ca idiot?
I keep getting failure notices for this fellow. Anyone else? > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at stravar.ca. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > addresses. > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) Peter -- == Gentoo Linux: Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.8p1 kernel-2.4.22_pre2-gss i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
Svein Harald Soleim wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 right now I took a "emerge -DUp world" and found something disturbing. [ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.57] [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] why the hell would I upgrade my apache 1.3x to 2.0x? and mysql 3x to 4x. Not until I decide anyway. Why not? What are your reasons not to move? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow
Christian Aust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ ... ] > p.s.: I'd like to know because I'm just about to switch one of our > production machines over to gentoo... so server performance matters > to me. apart from the standard warnings around "I hope you know what you're doing when you're putting Gentoo onto production machines", you do *not* want a preemptive kernel on a heavy server. -- Terje -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
> > Cool! I'll give it a try. Thanks for the update/corrections :) > Hey, Us gentoo users, we rock like that :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
Hot Diggety! Bjorn Sodergren was rumored to have written: > 1) emerge gentoolkit > > qpkg does that Ah! Very nice. Just emerge'd it... qpkg -I -v looks to be a winner. > Note, that in debian, apt-* doesn't show what packages are installed, you > need to query dpkg. Also, apt-* are front-ends to dpkg and its many tools. > > emerge info in gentoo currently reports Portage configuration information. Makes sense. I see it now. > 2) Gentoo network installation (PXE) HOWTO > http://www.menteb.org/docs.php?doc=pxe > > I don't have enough extra boxes laying around to try out the network > install, but I have faith in the author of that how to that it works :) Cool! I'll give it a try. Thanks for the update/corrections :) -Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
On Saturday 12 Jul 2003 22:13, Dan Foster wrote: > 1. emerge is missing one key function -- I say key, because we can't >consider deploying Gentoo as the OS of choice for x86 servers > unless it has this feature: the ability to see what ebuilds were > installed on the system and what version they are. Look in /var/log/portage/ and /var/log/emerge.log > >Package management is extremely important to us in the server > arena because it represents the bulk of our long-term maintenance for > both by hand and with our extensive automated tools which figures out > what stuff to install based on what currently is installed. > Currently, the argument is to use Debian instead of Gentoo because of > missing bits related to package management such as this. I suck at > coding or I'd contribute something, but I could take a shot at it. Loads of stuff for doing that. emerge gentoolkit and epm. > Peter -- == Gentoo Linux: Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.8p1 kernel-2.4.22_pre2-gss i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
1) emerge gentoolkit qpkg does that Note, that in debian, apt-* doesn't show what packages are installed, you need to query dpkg. Also, apt-* are front-ends to dpkg and its many tools. emerge info in gentoo currently reports Portage configuration information. 2) Gentoo network installation (PXE) HOWTO http://www.menteb.org/docs.php?doc=pxe I don't have enough extra boxes laying around to try out the network install, but I have faith in the author of that how to that it works :) > -Original Message- > From: Dan Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 4:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement > > > Some suggestions: > > 1. emerge is missing one key function -- I say key, because we can't >consider deploying Gentoo as the OS of choice for x86 > servers unless >it has this feature: the ability to see what ebuilds were installed >on the system and what version they are. > >Package management is extremely important to us in the server arena >because it represents the bulk of our long-term > maintenance for both >by hand and with our extensive automated tools which > figures out what >stuff to install based on what currently is installed. > Currently, the >argument is to use Debian instead of Gentoo because of missing bits >related to package management such as this. I suck at coding or I'd >contribute something, but I could take a shot at it. > >Perhaps consider a command such as 'emerge info' to list one-liners >listing all installed ebuilds and their versions? And 'emerge info >' to view info for a specific ebuild. And > some sort >of wildcard support such as 'emerge info foo*' to return info about >all installed ebuilds matching the wildcard pattern. > >For the most part, I think you've already got code in > emerge to figure >out what ebuilds are installed and at what version... > could adapt it >to also be used for an 'emerge info' function. > > 2. The only other thing we're missing with Gentoo is a > network boot/install >server -- we already have AIX's NIM, Solaris's Jumpstart, RedHat's >KickStart. Even Windows and MacOS has something. :) With > the number of >sites and servers we run, this is a crucial bit of functionality. > >Since that functionality is generally generic -- support tftp, etc. >...it sounds theoretically simple to support this one way > or another. >I wonder if RedHat's KickStart stuff could be ported to Gentoo? I >hesitate to suggest this, but I'm also hesitant to suggest > something >that would chew up developers' time by doing something > from scratch. > >Gentoo's got a firm hold on the desktop... and getting > there with the >hardened project for the high security stuff... but could > get a bigger >chunk of the servers. > > -Dan > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] lm-sensors
Question: how does one get this working? What do I need in kernel? It's complaining about my i2c being too old - but I don't even remember compiling it into the kernel. MIKE -- Beware the JabberOrk -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 12:50:49PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >One sort of urban legend that's out there in the Linux audio > community has to do with the value of a dual vs. single processor > systems and how much they can help in this area. > >The argument seems to go that on a DP machine one processor will > handle the GUI/OS/drivers and the second processor will handle the audio > application. However, no one (that I know of anyway) has really measured > this quantitatively and shown it to be true. (It might be to subjective > anyway...) Any thoughts? GUIs are memory pigs much more than they are CPU pigs - I doubt that throwing extra processor power at them will do much good. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors - Will it work with my MB?
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 01:53:51PM -0700, Doug Gorley wrote: > Thanks for your help. I got lm_sensors working, and now I'm a bit > concerned about the readings. Take a look at temp3: > > as99127f-i2c-0-2d [...] > temp1: +34?C (limit = +60?C) > temp2: +61.0?C (limit = +120?C, hysteresis = +100?C)(beep) > temp3:+224.4?C (limit = +120?C, hysteresis = +100?C) > > Anyone know what temp3 is referring to? I think the BIOS temps list MB, > CPU, Power Supply in that order. Should I be worried? Not unless you actually have a power supply temperature sensor connected to the motherboard. You'd have had to hook up a two-wire 'power supply thermal connector' (TRPWR1 on my A7V8X, using the same chipset) separately for that to be used. If you don't have that hooked up, then the temperature is just floating and means nothing. Ignore it. ---+--- Bryan Feir VA3GBF|"Advertising may be described as the science of Home:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | arresting human intelligence long enough to get | money from it." -- Stephen Leacock ---+--- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
Some suggestions: 1. emerge is missing one key function -- I say key, because we can't consider deploying Gentoo as the OS of choice for x86 servers unless it has this feature: the ability to see what ebuilds were installed on the system and what version they are. Package management is extremely important to us in the server arena because it represents the bulk of our long-term maintenance for both by hand and with our extensive automated tools which figures out what stuff to install based on what currently is installed. Currently, the argument is to use Debian instead of Gentoo because of missing bits related to package management such as this. I suck at coding or I'd contribute something, but I could take a shot at it. Perhaps consider a command such as 'emerge info' to list one-liners listing all installed ebuilds and their versions? And 'emerge info ' to view info for a specific ebuild. And some sort of wildcard support such as 'emerge info foo*' to return info about all installed ebuilds matching the wildcard pattern. For the most part, I think you've already got code in emerge to figure out what ebuilds are installed and at what version... could adapt it to also be used for an 'emerge info' function. 2. The only other thing we're missing with Gentoo is a network boot/install server -- we already have AIX's NIM, Solaris's Jumpstart, RedHat's KickStart. Even Windows and MacOS has something. :) With the number of sites and servers we run, this is a crucial bit of functionality. Since that functionality is generally generic -- support tftp, etc. ...it sounds theoretically simple to support this one way or another. I wonder if RedHat's KickStart stuff could be ported to Gentoo? I hesitate to suggest this, but I'm also hesitant to suggest something that would chew up developers' time by doing something from scratch. Gentoo's got a firm hold on the desktop... and getting there with the hardened project for the high security stuff... but could get a bigger chunk of the servers. -Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Questions (fb color bg, logo, cloop, etc)
A couple questions: 1. How can I get the same kind of coloured background - just like the one from the install CD? I find it easier to read than a white-text-on-black background. Maybe I'm weird, but that's just me. ;) 2. How can I keep the Gentoo logo at the bottom? I think it'd be a great way to advertise Gentoo while I'm using the console. Most of my co-workers are big Gentoo fans now. The framebuffer logos aren't enough because they're small, only at the top left corner, and disappears as soon as something is done late at boot time (consolefonts run, perhaps?). 3. Where's the source for cloop.c? I'd like to poke through the compressed initrd images to see how some of the more neat things happen. 4. There isn't a command to list installed package name and version, is there? If not, where is that information stored, so that I might whip up something to parse it? I know it exists _somewhere_ because emerge -u is able to figure out what already is installed and at what version. 5. Where's the sources for various Gentoo stuff such as emerge? -Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Thank you to the Gentoo developers!
Some comments: 1. Many folks at work -- the system engineers and developers -- LOVES Gentoo! It's such a refreshing breath of fresh air. 2. The docs are top notch -- kudos to those who put it together. Even when it isn't 100% complete, it's often still enough to get us started on the right track. 3. Kudos to the entire Gentoo Linux team and all the contributors for an insanely great product. 4. UML is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and I was delighted to see there was even a page at gentoo.org with step by step info, too! 5. At least two of us here (myself included) always enjoyed reading the newsletter once a week... which is the mark of a well done newsletter because we never found others' interesting enough to read it on a weekly basis. Much appreciated Mr. Lieber's (and others') hard work. Well done, folks, and many thanks from us here for such an awesome distribution. -Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recommended CFLAGS for Dual Athlon MP 2200
Tom Wesley wrote: On Saturday 12 July 2003 21:22, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Charlie wrote: Salut Andrew, have a Tyan S2462 Thunder K7 with 2 x 1200 Athlon MP (now I know) had the problem that cat /proc/cpuinfo gave me the attached log. I interchanged the two cpus and have still the same output CPU0 = AMD Athlon (tm) MP and CPU1= AMD Athlon (tm) Processor. Do you have the same output ? I get something similar. It shows CPU0 as 'AMD Athlon MP 2200+' and CPU1 as 'AMD Athlon MP' when they are identical processors. Quick question moving slightly off, do the MP's in a dual system have to be the same, or could you use on MP 2000 and a 2600? I believe they can be 2 different processors, but don't hold me to it. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
On Saturday 12 Jul 2003 21:16, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: > yeah. But I need to do that after every emerge sync ;( No you don't > > btw. The file is in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask No it isn't. The file he was talking about is /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask. If you don't have it, create it. There is also /etc/portage/package.unmask, which does the reverse. > Peter -- == Gentoo Linux: Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.8p1 kernel-2.4.22_pre2-gss i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge packages locally
This worked quite well, Thank you very much. I have another question. How do I get my local computer to serve files from /usr/portage/distfiles? I am setting up my own server because I have a very slow dial-up and don't really want to download the same files over and over each time I setup a new computer. Thanks again for your help. Harlan... On Saturday 12 July 2003 01:29 pm, Ian Truelsen wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 13:11:55 -0500 > Try adding the following to your make.conf file: > > SYNC="rsync://192.168.1.50/gentoo-portage" > > The equivalent worked for me. My thinking is that you are not specifying > the directory, so the system can't find the files and goes looking for > another server. > > HTH -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors - Will it work with my MB?
Thanks for your help. I got lm_sensors working, and now I'm a bit concerned about the readings. Take a look at temp3: as99127f-i2c-0-2d Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at e800 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter VCore 1: +1.79 V (min = +1.74 V, max = +1.93 V) VCore 2: +0.08 V (min = +1.74 V, max = +1.93 V) ALARM +3.3V: +3.34 V (min = +3.13 V, max = +3.45 V) +5V: +4.86 V (min = +4.72 V, max = +5.24 V) +12V: +12.46 V (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.19 V) -12V: -13.99 V (min = -13.19 V, max = -10.73 V) ALARM -5V: -5.55 V (min = -5.24 V, max = -4.74 V) ALARM fan1: 4753 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) fan2:0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM fan3:0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM temp1: +34°C (limit = +60°C) temp2: +61.0°C (limit = +120°C, hysteresis = +100°C)(beep) temp3:+224.4°C (limit = +120°C, hysteresis = +100°C) vid: +1.850 V alarms: beep_enable: Sound alarm enabled Anyone know what temp3 is referring to? I think the BIOS temps list MB, CPU, Power Supply in that order. Should I be worried? Thanks, -- Doug Gorley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key ID: 0xA221559B Fingerprint: D707 DB92 E64B 69DA B8C7 2F65 C5A9 5415 A221 559B Interested in public-key cryptography?http://www.gnupg.org/ On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 08:08, H Demers wrote: > Hi, > I have look at the spec of your mobo and you have the VT8233 South > Bridge on the ASUS A7V266-E, so lm-sensors will work with your mobo. > > Good luck! > > drix > > Doug Gorley wrote: > > Howdy all, > > > > Can someone please tell me how to determine if my MB (ASUS A7V266-E) is > > supported by lm_sensors? I was a bit confused by the hardware > > compatibility list on the web site. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 July 2003 22:48, Yannick Le Saint wrote: > On Saturday 12 July 2003 19:53, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: > > right now I took a "emerge -DUp world" and found something disturbing. > > [ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.57] > > [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] > > > > why the hell would I upgrade my apache 1.3x to 2.0x? > > and mysql 3x to 4x. Not until I decide anyway. > > Should not you then ` emerge " > > Can anyone please tell me why this is suddenly happening? > > > > -- > > gnuPG key: ID 915B0745 at http://pgp.mit.edu/ > >http://www.fribyte.uib.no/~svein/PublicKey.asc > > Key fingerprint = 0123 B179 0994 F5C7 12D3 F253 E0AA 6A67 915B 0745 > > Registered Linux User #319622 > > > > 'The maths is easy,' said Chaos. > > AH? WELL, MATHS, said Death, dismissively. > > GENERALLY I NEVER GET MUCH FURTHER THAN SUBTRACTION. > > > > > > Svein Harald Soleim - -- gnuPG key: ID 915B0745 at http://pgp.mit.edu/ http://www.fribyte.uib.no/~svein/PublicKey.asc Key fingerprint = 0123 B179 0994 F5C7 12D3 F253 E0AA 6A67 915B 0745 Registered Linux User #319622 'The maths is easy,' said Chaos. AH? WELL, MATHS, said Death, dismissively. GENERALLY I NEVER GET MUCH FURTHER THAN SUBTRACTION. Svein Harald Soleim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EHaW4KpqZ5FbB0URAi/JAKC0LmduvIvMYaGLEfQ4Pi/JWNapWACgtmff 42l9E05Q1GX2hMtAElv5WYE= =Z25J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy
On Saturday 12 July 2003 19:53, Svein Harald Soleim wrote: > right now I took a "emerge -DUp world" and found something disturbing. > [ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.57] > [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3] > > why the hell would I upgrade my apache 1.3x to 2.0x? > and mysql 3x to 4x. Not until I decide anyway. Should not you then ` emerge " > Can anyone please tell me why this is suddenly happening? > > -- > gnuPG key: ID 915B0745 at http://pgp.mit.edu/ >http://www.fribyte.uib.no/~svein/PublicKey.asc > Key fingerprint = 0123 B179 0994 F5C7 12D3 F253 E0AA 6A67 915B 0745 > Registered Linux User #319622 > > 'The maths is easy,' said Chaos. > AH? WELL, MATHS, said Death, dismissively. > GENERALLY I NEVER GET MUCH FURTHER THAN SUBTRACTION. > > > Svein Harald Soleim -- If at first you don't succeed, you're doing about average. -- Leonard Levinson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recommended CFLAGS for Dual Athlon MP 2200
On Saturday 12 July 2003 21:22, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Charlie wrote: > > Salut Andrew, > > > > have a Tyan S2462 Thunder K7 with 2 x 1200 Athlon MP (now I know) had > > the problem that > > > > cat /proc/cpuinfo gave me the attached log. > > > > I interchanged the two cpus and have still the same output CPU0 = AMD > > Athlon (tm) MP and CPU1= AMD Athlon (tm) Processor. > > > > Do you have the same output ? > > I get something similar. It shows CPU0 as 'AMD Athlon MP 2200+' and CPU1 > as 'AMD Athlon MP' when they are identical processors. Quick question moving slightly off, do the MP's in a dual system have to be the same, or could you use on MP 2000 and a 2600? -- Tom Wesley Please encrypt personal replies if possible. pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] recommended CFLAGS for Dual Athlon MP 2200
Charlie wrote: Salut Andrew, have a Tyan S2462 Thunder K7 with 2 x 1200 Athlon MP (now I know) had the problem that cat /proc/cpuinfo gave me the attached log. I interchanged the two cpus and have still the same output CPU0 = AMD Athlon (tm) MP and CPU1= AMD Athlon (tm) Processor. Do you have the same output ? I get something similar. It shows CPU0 as 'AMD Athlon MP 2200+' and CPU1 as 'AMD Athlon MP' when they are identical processors. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
