Re: [gentoo-user] HELP: Problem in rebooting after running 'emerge -u world'

[Stephen Liu]

Ernie Schroder wrote:

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Stephen Liu wrote:
 

Hi all folks,

I encountered problem in rebooting Gentoo 1.4 after running

# emerge -u world

IIRC the last item updated is "betagenkernel"

During rebooting following warning popup;

..

Checking all filesystems...
fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while tryinng to open
/dev/BOOT /dev/BOOT:
The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct
ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then
the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with
an alternate superblock:
e2fsck - b 8193 
* Fsck could not correct all errors, manual repair need

Give root password for maintaince
(or type Control-D for normal startup):
No root password is required to enter. If typing in root
password I can't enter, following warning popup;
Login incorrect
It is rather strange

Tried;
# fsck /dev/hda
# fsck /dev/hda1
# fsck /dev/hda3
etc.
fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while tryinng to open
/dev/hda .. /dev/hda1
../dev/hda3
etc.
(remark: harddrive is connected to a ATA controller card)
IIRC Gentoo is running on 'reiser fs' . How to check it.
Furthermore 'reboot' (soft) has no effect. I have to press
hard-reboot (reset button)
Kindly advise how to fix the problem.

TIA

Stephen Liu

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Stephen, 
	When you ran etc-update after your emerge -u world, you overwrote 
your /etc/fstab. You will need to boot the live CD and chroot into 
your Gentoo and recreate the file.
 

Hi Ernie,

Thanks for your response.  I have not ran 'etc-update' in this test.

I ran

# emerge -u world

ending up with following warning and exited 'emerge -u world'

..
..
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `init':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:51: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `parse':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: (Each undeclared identifier is 
reported only once
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: for each function it appears in.)
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `print':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:186: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:186: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `save':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:209: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:209: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
make: *** [extensions/libipt_ROUTE_sh.o] Error 1

!!! ERROR: net-firewall/iptables-1.2.9 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 53, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
This warning appeared before and I could not fixed it (I have posted 
this problem on Gentoo forum but without a solution)

I ran  '# emerge -u world'  on Konsole window.  Login as USER on KDE 
desktop first, started Konsole window and then 'su -' as ROOT

I rebooted on Konsole window but could not start Gentoo.  As I recalled, 
before rebooting, I tried to start another Konsole window on KDE 
desktop, it popup 'hostname not found..' and I could not 'su -'

B.R.
Stephen


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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 + alsa = terrible

[Dennis Robertson]

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:18 pm, Redeeman wrote:
> did u emerge the latest versions of alsautils and alsalib? and anothing
> things, what option do you use on DXS SUPPORT? :)
>
> On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 13:29, Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote:
> > I don't recall any problems using the 2.6-test kernels.  However, with
> > 2.6.1/2 my sound is terrible.  I get whining, crackling periodicly.
> >
> > I've tried add 'apm=idle-threshold=100' to my grub line, as well as
> > disabling APM/CPU_IDLE.  Neither seemed to help... anyone else have
> > any ideas/suggestions?
> >
> > Card: VIA 8235
> > Chip: Realtek ALC650 rev 3
> >
> >   Kurt

I had the same problem arise after upgrading to KDE3.2 using 2.6.0-mm1 which 
previously had given no trouble. The noise started as alsa was loaded on boot 
and lasted about 2 mins. I noticed that alsa-lib was v1.0.2 while the rest of 
alsa were v0.9.8. I downgraded alsa-lib to 0.9.8 and so far, touch wood, the 
problem has not recurred.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Tom Wesley]

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 01:39, Grendel wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:
> 
> > Stroller wrote:
> 
> > I'd go for the 9200 for bang/buck - however, you will need to use the 
> > ATI binary drivers for 3D. If you get the 7000/7500 you should be able 
> > to use the DRI open-source drivers.
> 
> 
> I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for 
> linux :-)
> 
> Grendel

Any recommendations as to which?  I've about £100 to spend...

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Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla 1.6 not compiling

[Alberto Bert]

On Feb 06 at 11:26PM+0100, Jose González Gómez wrote:
> 
>Alberto,
> 
>I have successfully compiled mozilla 1.6. Have you tried to resync 
> and emerge again? Some strange compilation problems goes away doing this.

yes, I did it immediately after but obtaining the same result :-(

I'll try again today, but I'm starting to suspect having something else
wrong, since all people say mozilla is compiling. I've no idea what it
can be wrong...

thanks for all the help,
Alberto

> 
>Regards
>Jose
> 
> Alberto Bert escribió:
> 
> >On Feb 06 at 01:25PM+0100, Redeeman wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>i just emerged for some days ago, very strange, tried cut down the
> >>CFLAGS?
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >it doesn't compile the same way also with default CFLAGS:
> >
> >-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe
> >
> >:-(
> >
> >alb
> >
> > 
> >
> >>On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 12:46, Alberto Bert wrote:
> >>   
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>I'm not an expert of gentoo at all, but I've never had compilation 
> >>>problems up to now
> >>>(~ 1 year working), so I was very surpised today...
> >>>
> >>>I tryed to emerge mozilla 1.6, it requested several other updating and
> >>>new emerging, among them xfree, gtk+, etc.
> >>>The compilation stops with the following error message.
> >>>
> >>>Plus, now something seems to be happened to emerge, since when I try to 
> >>>emerge centain packages it gives me errors like:
> >>>
> >>>snoopy root # emerge -pv xterm
> >>>
> >>>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >>>
> >>>Calculating dependencies   
> >>>!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "xterm" have been masked.
> >>>
> >>>!!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.
> >>>
> >>>the error appear not for all packages...
> >>>
> >>>What am Isupposed to "correct"?
> >>>
> >>>Any help would be VERY appreciated.
> >>>thanks,
> >>>Alberto
> >>>
> >>>g++ -o nsAccessProxy.o -c -DOSTYPE=\"Linux2.4\" -DOSARCH=\"Linux\"  
> >>>-I../../../dist/include/xpcom -I../../../dist/include/string 
> >>>-I../../../dist/include/docshell -I../../../dist/include/dom 
> >>>-I../../../dist/include/widget -I../../../dist/include/gfx 
> >>>-I../../../dist/include/layout -I../../../dist/include/content 
> >>>-I../../../dist/include/uriloader -I../../../dist/include/pref 
> >>>-I../../../dist/include/embedcomponents 
> >>>-I../../../dist/include/accessproxy -I../../../dist/include 
> >>>-I/var/tmp/portage/mozilla-1.6/work/mozilla/dist/include/nspr 
> >>>-I/usr/X11R6/include   -fPIC  -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-rtti 
> >>>-fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align 
> >>>-Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-long-long 
> >>>-march=pentium3 -mcpu=pentium4 -pipe -s -fforce-addr -Wno-deprecated 
> >>>-fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -ffunction-sections -O2 
> >>>-I/usr/X11R6/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../mozilla-config.h 
> >>>-Wp,-MD,.deps/nsAccessProxy.pp nsAccessProxy.cpp
> >>>nsAccessProxy.cpp:46:25: nsIRegistry.h: No such file or directory
> >>>In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:52:
> >>>../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:48:20: nsIURI.h: No such 
> >>>file or directory
> >>>../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:53:26: nsILoadGroup.h: No 
> >>>such file or directory
> >>>In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:52:
> >>>../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h: In instantiation of 
> >>>`nsDerivedSafe':
> >>>../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:135:   instantiated from here
> >>>../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:135: base class `nsIURI' has 
> >>>  incomplete type
> >>>../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h: In member function `nsIURI* 
> >>>  nsIDocument::GetDocumentURL() const':
> >>>../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:135: cannot convert `const 
> >>>  nsCOMPtr' to `nsIURI*' in return
> >>>../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h: In member function `nsIURI* 
> >>>  nsIDocument::GetBaseURL() const':
> >>>../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:163: cannot convert `const 
> >>>  nsCOMPtr' to `nsIURI*' in return
> >>>In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:58:
> >>>nsAccessProxy.h:35:28: nsIAccessProxy.h: No such file or directory
> >>>In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:58:
> >>>nsAccessProxy.h: In static member function `static const nsID& 
> >>>  nsAccessProxy::GetCID()':
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>nsAccessProxy.h:64: `NS_ACCESSPROXY_CID' undeclared (first use this 
> >>>function)
> >>>nsAccessProxy.h:64: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
> >>>for each function it appears in.)
> >>>nsAccessProxy.cpp: In member function `virtual nsresult 
> >>>  nsAccessProxy::HandleEvent(nsIDOMEvent*)':
> >>>nsAccessProxy.cpp:102: invalid use of undefined type `struct nsIDOMEvent'
> >>>../../../dist/include/dom/domstubs.h:107: forward declaration of `struct 
> >>>  nsIDOMEvent'
> >>>nsAccessProxy.cpp:113: cannot convert `nsIDOMEvent*' to `nsISupports*' 
> >>>for argument `1' to `const nsQueryInterface 
> >>>  do_QueryInterface(nsISupports*

Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.2, framebuffer & Matrox G400

[Ralf Hinz]

With kernel 2.6 you have to put something like this in you grub.conf
video=matroxfb:vesa:0x115 as an append line.

 Am Mon, den 09.02.2004 schrieb Stroller um 00:18:
> Hi there,
> 
> Can anyone give me a hand getting my Matrox G400 to run in framebuffer  
> mode, please..? I've recently installed Gentoo on a dual-Althlon  
> system, which is running on a Tyan Tiger 2466 motherboard. It's been a  
> while since I used framebuffer, as in the last couple of years I've  
> only run Linux on my server, headless.
> 
> I've installed using the recent Gentoo-2004.0 20040204 LiveCD, and that  
> boot-up beautifully, with the splashscreen & glorious technicolour.  
> Basically. I want my terminal to look like that! 8-D
> 
> I've compiled in all the framebufferish-looking options to the 2.6.2  
> kernel , and everything Matroxy, I think. To start with I decided not  
> to enable the splashscreen, and just get a decent console-resolution to  
> start with, but I don't seem to be able to get anything like the  
> resolution I'd expect.
> 
> If I boot with these lines in my grub.conf:
>root (hd0,4)
>kernel /bzImage.2.6.2-gentoo root=/dev/hda7 vga=ask
> 
> I get the option to display a list of modes; they are:
>Video Adaptor: VESA VGA
>Mode:  COLSxROWS:
>0  0F0080x25
>0  0F0180x50
>0  0F0280x43
>0  0F0380x28
>0  0F0480x30
>0  0F0580x34
>0  0F0680x60
>0  0F07132x43
> 
> I have also tried booting with these grub.conf lines, which I  
> apparently found at random on the internet.
>root (hd0,4)
>kernel /bzImage.2.6.2-gentoo root=/dev/hda7 acpi=off vga=791
> and:
>root (hd0,4)
>kernel /bzImage.2.6.2-gentoo root=/dev/hda7 video=matrox:vesa:0x115
> and:
>root (hd0,4)
>kernel /bzImage.2.6.2-gentoo root=/dev/hda7  
> video=matrox:vesa:0x193,fv:76
> 
> (I have a couple of references [1] [2] [3] to the latter notations, and  
> I seem to have read that there are Matrox fb-drivers which are  
> different from the regular VESA ones).
> 
> After some faffing about with dodgy messages on boot-up I managed to  
> find the right drivers for my AGP bus & compile them in, so I get:
>$ dmesg | grep -i agp
>ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT]
>matroxfb: Matrox G400 (AGP) detected
>Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones
>agpgart: Detected AMD 760MP chipset
>agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M
>agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf800
> 
> I think the "matroxfb" line suggests I'm maybe pretty close, but:
>$ fbset
>mode "640x480-60"
>  # D: 25.176 MHz, H: 31.469 kHz, V: 59.942 Hz
>  geometry 640 480 640 26214 8
>  timings 39721 40 24 32 11 96 2
>  accel true
>  rgba 8/0,8/0,8/0,0/0
>endmode
> 
> 8-(
> 
> When I boot to the LiveCD - which is admittedly a different kernel,  
> 2.4.x I'm sure - it automagically looks wonderful, and I find that it's  
> running:
># fbset
>mode "1024x768-76"
>  # D: 78.653 MHz, H: 59.949 kHz, V: 75.694 Hz
>  geometry 1024 768 1024 768 16
>  timings 12714 128 32 16 4 128 4
>  rgba 5/11,6/5,5/0,0/0
>endmode
> 
> I don't know how to translate this to the codes I find at  
> , and really  
> don't know if that makes any difference, seeing as I've already tried  
> the "vga=ask" parameter. I think this resolution & refresh rate is  
> perfect, because it's probably at the limitations of my poor ageing 17"  
> monitor.
> 
> If anyone could give me any pointers at all, I would be very extremely  
> grateful,
> 
> Stroller.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [1]  
> http://www.directfb.org/mailinglists/directfb-users/2003/08-2003/
> msg00101.html
> [2] http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/1/1/23
> [3] http://tinyurl.com/34r6c
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Package of a file

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:22:09 -0800 Ian Truelsen
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| On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 12:06:04 +0600
| Anuradha Ratnaweera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > How can one find the package (and preferably the version) to which a
| > file belongs to?
| > 
| emerge gentoolkit
| qpkg -f /path/file
| 
| emerge -s package will give you the version

Or qpkg -v -f /the/file :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla 1.6 not compiling

[Alberto Bert]

Hi,

if I try etcat -u mozilla-1.6, it says as following. I hope the fact that I 
don't need the gnome support it doesn't generate prblems...

config_profile_path not specified to class config
incrementals not specified to class config
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[ Legend  : (U) Col 1 - Current USE flags]
[ : (I) Col 2 - Installed With USE flags ]
[ * No USE flags found for : net-mail/mozilla-thunderbird ]
[ * No USE flags found for : net-mail/mozilla-thunderbird-bin ]

 U I [ Found these USE variables in : net-www/mozilla-firebird-bin-0.7 ]
 - - gnome : Adds GNOME support
[ * No USE flags found for : net-www/mozilla-firebird-cvs ]

 U I [ Found these USE variables in : net-www/mozilla-1.6 ]
 + + java : Adds support for Java
 + + crypt: Add support for encryption -- using mcrypt or gpg where applicable
 + + ipv6 : Adds support for IP version 6
 + - gtk2 : Use gtk+-2.0.0 over gtk+-1.2 in cases where a program supports 
both.
 + + ssl  : Adds support for Secure Socket Layer connections
 + + ldap : Adds LDAP support (Lightweight Directory Access Protocol)
 - - gnome: Adds GNOME support
 - - debug: Tells configure and the makefiles to build for debugging. Effects 
vary acrosss packages, but generally it will at least add -g to CFLAGS. Remember to 
set FEATURES+=nostrip too.
 - - mozcalendar  : blank
 + + mozaccess: blank
 + + mozxmlterm   : blank
 - - moznoirc : If you do NOT want the IRC client built with mozilla
 + + moznomail: If you do NOT want the mail client built with mozilla
 + + moznocompose : If you do NOT want the web page composer built with mozilla
 - - moznoxft : blank

 U I [ Found these USE variables in : net-www/mozilla-firebird-0.7-r1 ]
 + - java : Adds support for Java
 + - gtk2 : Use gtk+-2.0.0 over gtk+-1.2 in cases where a program supports both.
 + - ipv6 : Adds support for IP version 6
 - - gnome: Adds GNOME support
 - - moznoxft : unknown


On Feb 06 at 11:47PM+0100, Arne Vogel wrote:
> Alberto Bert wrote:
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I'm not an expert of gentoo at all, but I've never had compilation 
> >problems up to now
> >(~ 1 year working), so I was very surpised today...
> >
> >I tryed to emerge mozilla 1.6, it requested several other updating and
> >new emerging, among them xfree, gtk+, etc.
> >The compilation stops with the following error message.
> >
> > 
> >
> I just compiled it successfully (using current non-masked packages). 
> "etcat -u mozilla-1.6" says:
> 
> U I [ Found these USE variables in : net-www/mozilla-1.6 ]
> + + java : Adds support for Java
> + + crypt: Add support for encryption -- using mcrypt or gpg 
> where applicable
> - - ipv6 : Adds support for IP version 6
> + + gtk2 : Use gtk+-2.0.0 over gtk+-1.2 in cases where a 
> program supports both.
> + + ssl  : Adds support for Secure Socket Layer connections
> - - ldap : Adds LDAP support (Lightweight Directory Access 
> Protocol)
> + + gnome: Adds GNOME support
> - - debug: Tells configure and the makefiles to build for 
> debugging. Effects vary acrosss packages, but generally it will at least 
> add -g to CFLAGS. Remember to set FEATURES+=nostrip too.
> - - mozcalendar  : blank
> - - mozaccess: blank
> - - mozxmlterm   : blank
> - - moznoirc : If you do NOT want the IRC client built with mozilla
> - - moznomail: If you do NOT want the mail client built with mozilla
> - - moznocompose : If you do NOT want the web page composer built with 
> mozilla
> - - moznoxft : blank
> 
> "emerge -up mozilla" says mozilla and direct dependencies are up to date.
> 
> Maybe this helps... :-|
> 
> >Plus, now something seems to be happened to emerge, since when I try to 
> >emerge centain packages it gives me errors like:
> >
> >snoopy root # emerge -pv xterm
> >
> >These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >
> >Calculating dependencies   
> >!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "xterm" have been masked.
> >
> >!!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.
> >
> > 
> >
> This is no different from what I get. It seems all versions of xterm are 
> currently masked.
> 
> >the error appear not for all packages...
> >
> >What am Isupposed to "correct"?
> >
> >Any help would be VERY appreciated.
> >thanks,
> >Alberto
> > 
> >
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom 4400 NIC

[Rudmer van Dijk]

Hi,

On Monday 09 February 2004 04:08, Kurt Guenther wrote:
> I unemerged the bcm4400 driver.  The kernel driver is b44.  I verified
> that it was built and installed in
> /lib/modules/xxx/kernel/drivers/net/b44.o & I can insmod it.

these are the messages I have kernel-2.6.3-rc1 (`dmesg | grep b44`)
b44.c:v0.92 (Nov 4, 2003)
b44: eth0: Link is down.
b44: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex.
b44: eth0: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX.

I had the same sort of trouble with linux-2.6.2-mm1 could not get a connection 
but the rest seemed to work. my solution was simple: use another kernel.

> ??  It's still not working, so I must be missing something.  How do I
> get this configured, so that I can bring up my network interface correctly?

well, is your network working??
can you verify that the link is up? (either by looking at the leds or unplug 
and plug the network cable and watch the kernel messages)

try to configure your network with a static IP (use an ip in the same range as 
your dhcp server would give)

is your dhcp server correctly configured / working?

Rudmer

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[gentoo-user] how to test crond actions ??

[raptor]

hi,

Is there a way to test crontab... what i mean is to run a script in the same way the 
crond did it, so I can check if there is some
problems, permissions wrong etc...
Otherwie I have to wait until crond trigger  the action and still have to guess what 
is really happening by the external script actions...

Is there such a way to simulate full crond.. and later to be sure that when the script 
executes after a day or so, everything will go fine...


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Re: [gentoo-user] what happened to supermount?

[Simon Čahuk]

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 07:00, Moshe Kaminsky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> With kernel 2.4 I had the following line in /etc/fstab:
> 
> none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
> dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=utf8,umask=0 0 0
> 
> which caused the cdrom (and similarly for the floppy) to be mounted 
> automatically when accessed. It seems that kernel 2.6 no longer supports this.
> Is there a replacement?
> 
> Thanks,
> Moshe

I have in /etc/fstab:
cdrom   /mnt/cdrom  supermount 
fs=auto,dev=/dev/cdrom,--,iocharset=iso8859-2   0 0

and it works. Using 2.6.2-ck1

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[gentoo-user] Re: what happened to supermount?

[Thorsten Kampe]

* Moshe Kaminsky (2004-02-09 07:00 +0100)
> With kernel 2.4 I had the following line in /etc/fstab:
> 
> none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
> dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=utf8,umask=0 0 0
> 
> which caused the cdrom (and similarly for the floppy) to be mounted 
> automatically when accessed. It seems that kernel 2.6 no longer supports this.

Aah, Kernel 2.4. That kernel 2.4. In fact the unpatched vanilla never
did support supermount.

> Is there a replacement?

Yes:
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CONFIG_SUPERMOUNT=y
# CONFIG_SUPERMOUNT_DEBUG is not set


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Tom Wesley wrote:

> > I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for 
> > linux :-)
> > 
> > Grendel
> 
> Any recommendations as to which?  I've about £100 to spend...
 
Hmm..At that price you are probably looking for a geforce Ti4200 chipset 
based card, It is a good chipset, which is extrememly overclockable. the 
card supports direct x 8.1, but not certain features of direct X 9 like 
pixel shaders IIRC.

Several vendors are available, NVIDIA, Enyah, asus etc, just see what are 
the brands available and do a internet search for reviews of the graphics 
card brand.

I am running a enyah ti4200 card with tvout. Its quite a cheap board which 
is surprisingly overclockable and stable too.

Linux supports the ti4200 without any problems.

Grendel
 

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[gentoo-user] More Graphics Cards Recommendations..? Was: Re: kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Stroller]

On Feb 9, 2004, at 4:49 am, Ernie Schroder wrote:
Frame buffer works just fine. That's not the problem.The caveat is if
using an Nvidia card, you need to compile in the vesa framebuffer
driver, NOT the nvidia FB support.
So does this mean that Nvidia cards work well either in X, or in 
framebuffer, but not at the same time..? I have to have different 
kernel options to get the optimal in each..?

Following Grendel's advice (February 9, 2004 1:39:58 am GMT) I'm 
disinclined to get one of these ATI cards.
My supplier has Abit 128Mb Siluro 128Bit FX5200DT TV/DVI at #45, Abit 
64Mb Siluro GeForce 3 VIO at #35 and 64Mb XFX GeForce4 MX440 AGP 8x DDR 
TV at #35.

As you can see, I'm definitely on a budget, and all these numbers don't 
mean much to me (the 2nd, cheaper Siluro seems to have more megahertz, 
tho', which surprised me). My motherboard is a Tyan Tiger dual-Athlon, 
and describes its AGP "4X... (also accepts 1X and 2X AGP  cards)" so I 
guess an 8x card gives me no benefit.

The cruicial criteria is than any card I buy must be decent in both the 
framebuffer AND in X, otherwise I might as well stick with the card I 
have.

TIA for any help,

Stroller.





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Re: [gentoo-user] Odd dependencies for emerge -UD world

[Jose Gonzalez Gomez]

   Gard,

   The -D options implies a "deep" update, so in this case, emerge 
searches not only for updates of the packages you have installed, but 
for updates for all the packages the installed packages depend on.

   About the packages you mention, I don't know, but if you do an 
emerge --emptytree -vp packageName you will find the whole list of 
dependencies for packageName, so maybe this way you can identify which 
packages need the packages you mention.

   Regards
   Jose
Gard Spreemann escribió:

Hi.
Can somebody explain to me why "emerge -pU world" lists a "sane" set of 
packages to be merged, while "emerge -pUD world" wants to install a new 
package called sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.21?
I'm running kernel 2.6.2, so I'm thinking I don't want that package in my 
system. It also lists things like freetype, gpm and pdflib, which "emerge -pU 
world" does not (this is on a server system, and I do not need freetype).
In case it is relevant, I always compile and install kernels manually, without 
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Re: [gentoo-user] More Graphics Cards Recommendations..? Was: Re: kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Stroller wrote:

> 
> On Feb 9, 2004, at 4:49 am, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> >
> > Frame buffer works just fine. That's not the problem.The caveat is if
> > using an Nvidia card, you need to compile in the vesa framebuffer
> > driver, NOT the nvidia FB support.
> 
> So does this mean that Nvidia cards work well either in X, or in 
> framebuffer, but not at the same time..? I have to have different 
> kernel options to get the optimal in each..?

No, it means that if you use a frame buffer, then you will have to use 
linux's agp driver instead of nvidias agp driver. reall there isnt much 
difference but the nvidia agp driver seems stabler than linux's agp 
driver. But there is very little difference practically I think.

 
> Following Grendel's advice (February 9, 2004 1:39:58 am GMT) I'm 
> disinclined to get one of these ATI cards.
> My supplier has Abit 128Mb Siluro 128Bit FX5200DT TV/DVI at #45, Abit 
> 64Mb Siluro GeForce 3 VIO at #35 and 64Mb XFX GeForce4 MX440 AGP 8x DDR 
> TV at #35.
> 
> As you can see, I'm definitely on a budget, and all these numbers don't 
> mean much to me (the 2nd, cheaper Siluro seems to have more megahertz, 
> tho', which surprised me). My motherboard is a Tyan Tiger dual-Athlon, 
> and describes its AGP "4X... (also accepts 1X and 2X AGP  cards)" so I 
> guess an 8x card gives me no benefit.
> 
> The cruicial criteria is than any card I buy must be decent in both the 
> framebuffer AND in X, otherwise I might as well stick with the card I 
> have.

Well I havent had a ATI card, but setting up 3d under them is a bit of a 
pain, but please ask someone else who has a ATI card on this list about 
this.

NVIDIA certainly works well in the X mode, I havent tested out the 
framebuffer mode though.


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[gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Alexandre Aractingi]

Hi all,
I did not install Gentoo yet, but I'm considering trying it so I need to
ask a few questions before I actually install it:

- I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I
particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally
"problematic" packages - for example libdvdcss). Is there such a thing
for Gentoo?

- Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition
and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)?

- Does Gentoo use devfs?

- Does Gentoo use automount/supermount?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Norbert Kamenicky]

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Monday 09 February 2004 02:28, Stroller wrote:
>
...Which will give best bang-per-buck..?
- 64Mb ATI 7000 DDR with TV/Out for £23
- 64Mb ATI Radeon 7500LE SDR AGP TV Out for £30
- 128Mb ATI Radeon (Sapphire) 9200SE Tv/Out for £35
 
you may want to read this:
http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/atilinux_oct03/ati_linux_comp_oct03.html
the 7000 and 7500 are real old. And they were slow, when they were new. So I 
would not touch them.
Hi Armin,

I had the same feeling as u :-), but feeling is not certainty ...
I didn't read given link yet, but I use 7500 (it is not 7500LE)
and had one 9200LE (light edition ?) two weeks ago for testing.
1.Compared cards:
  Saphire/ATi Radeon 7500  64MB DDR V/D/VO
  id vendor 0x1002 id device 5157 (CRT out)  RV200 QW (R7500)
  Saphire/ATi Radeon 9200  128MB DDR V/D/VO
  id vendor 0x1002 id device 5961 (CRT out)  RV280 Ya (R9200LE)
  id vendor 0x1002 id device 5941 (DVI out)
2. Drivers and "glxgears" results:

Radeon 7500 64MB DDR  + xfree-drm-4.3.0-r7 1152x864 24 bit

default 8167 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1633.400 FPS
full screen 1023 frames in 5.0 seconds = 204.600 FPS
no screen  27739 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5547.800 FPS
R7500 is not supported by ati-drivers.
Radeon 9200LE 128MB DDR + ati-drivers-3.2.8 1152x864 24 bit

default 6366 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1273.200 FPS
full screen 1010 frames in 5.0 seconds = 202.000 FPS
no screen  12931 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2586.200 FPS
R9200 is NOT supported by xfree-drm !!!
Both cards were tested on the same machine
(i865PE, Xeon @1.6GHz, 2x256MB DDRAM CL2)
3. Summary

IMHO 9200 card is worse, because it is not faster, and
supported by proprietary drivers only.
For me that means also in case FPS results are identical,
I prefer 7500 (since it's cheaper).
R7500LE is probably little bit slower as 9200 (I didn't test it).
If somebody interested, I can send used XF86Config's and logs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Mike Williams]

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On Monday 09 February 2004 10:37, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:

> - I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I
> particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally
> "problematic" packages - for example libdvdcss). Is there such a thing
> for Gentoo?

Gentoo doesn't 'need' something like that

(sauron root # emerge -s libdvdcss
Searching...
[ Results for search key : libdvdcss ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  media-libs/libdvdcss
  Latest version available: 1.2.8
  Latest version installed: 1.2.8
  Size of downloaded files: 204 kB
  Homepage:http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/
  Description: A portable abstraction library for DVD decryption
  License: GPL-2
)

But, http://www.breakmygentoo.net has some ebuilds (unsupported obviously), 
and the forums (http://forums.gentoo.org, again unsupported) generally have a 
few.

> - Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition
> and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)?

Not to my knowledge.

> - Does Gentoo use devfs?

Yes. It doesn't have to either. It's also perfectly possible to use udev.

> - Does Gentoo use automount/supermount?

If you want it to.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Norbert Kamenicky]

Grendel wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:

I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for 
linux :-)

Grendel

It's a question what u mean by "support".

If by support u mean delivery of crappy proprietary closed
code drivers, u are right.
IMHO support for Open software system (as Linux is) means
open drivers & documentation.
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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Mike Williams commented thusly,

> 
> > - Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition
> > and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)?
> 
> Not to my knowledge.

I too am a user about to install gentoo, I have been postponing it till I
get some good old scottish whisky to put me in the mood, I am kind of 
feeling sentimental about having toi kick mandrake out :)

With regard to this aspect of the question, surely gentoo must handle this 
hardware detection and installation of necessary drivers well? The livecd 
which I booted into recognised all my hardware and loaded the ethernet 
card so I had a network connection working, so the base system which we 
install to the hdd must have some kind of auto detection, otherwise do we 
have to type the alias eth0 rtl8139too commands manuall to the 
/etc/modulesxxx files?
 
> > - Does Gentoo use automount/supermount?
> 
> If you want it to.

There are kernels for gentoo which support supermount.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Alexandre Aractingi]

Le lun 09/02/2004 à 11:34, Mike Williams a écrit :
> > - Does Gentoo use devfs?
> Yes. It doesn't have to either. It's also perfectly possible to use udev.
> > - Does Gentoo use automount/supermount?
> If you want it to.

Thanks for your reply!
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,

> Grendel wrote:
> > On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:
> > 
> > I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for 
> > linux :-)
> > 
> > Grendel
> > 
> 
> It's a question what u mean by "support".
> 
> If by support u mean delivery of crappy proprietary closed
> code drivers, u are right.

First of all, let me illustrate the fallacy of the above comments.

1. Crappy?? Well dude the last time I checked NVIDIA linux drivers frame
rates are equivalent to the windows drivers. The same game sometimes gives 
better frame rates than the windows version. Also the stability is 
excellent, I have been playing neverwinter nights with full detail on for 
12 hours continously, of course I took a trip to the loo in between ;-) 
but the game was running for 12 hours continously without a single crash 
or lockup.

IMHO NVIDIA provides the best support for linux 3d hardware accelrated 
cards. Just see how difficult it is to setup 3d under ATI cards.
 
Its the opensource nvidia (nv.o) drivers which are crappy and have poor 3d 
support, with poor 3d features.

> IMHO support for Open software system (as Linux is) means
> open drivers & documentation.

I am sure RMS (Richard Stallman) would be happy with a fanatical disciple 
of free software like you. 

Lets face the real world, I want good performance out of my 3d card and I 
dont care even if it is a propritary driver, whats difference does it make 
to me, I am not going to get my computer blessed for running 100% free 
software by St ignucius (RMS) am I?  

If the open source driver is better than the propritary one then by 
all means I will use the opensource driver, otherwise I will stick with 
nvidia.com.

At least they are decent enough to support linux in this way, so be 
thankful, there was a time when 3d card companies couldnt care about linux 
at all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom 4400 NIC

[Paul Puschmann]

> I can't seem to get my NIC working.  I've emerged  net-misc/bcm4400
> and I can insmod it without any problems.  However, when my net comes
> up, I get no complaints, but it doesn't work.
> 
> The LiveCD boots up fine with dhcp & the bcm4400 module loaded & used.
> 
> My /etc/config/net says:
> 
> iface_eth0="dchp"
> 
> everything else is commented.
> 
> I used 'genkernel' to build my kernel.  I'm starting to think the
> kernel needs something.
> 
> --Kurt

Hi Kurt,

with a Broadcom 5701 (in a Dell-Server) I had to wait 15 seconds,
until the interface was really up. Perhaps this is the same issue here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.4.22-gentoo-r5: depmod gives unresolved symbols on misc/svgalib_helper despite the module exists

[Norbert Kamenicky]

Calyth wrote:
Here's the problem.
I got a new sound card, and was recompiling the alsa-drivers. Granted, I 
gotta alter the cettings in /etc/modules.d/alsa, and then run 
modules-update.
Then it says depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.22-gentoo-r5/misc/svgalib_helper.o
The module exists in the said directory, and I tried going to the kernel 
source directory, do make mrproper, put the same settings back, go make 
dep && make clean && make modules modules_install, and the system still 
have the same problem.
Anyone got a clue why?
If u don't need the driver, simple remove it
from /lib/modules ...  run "depmod -a" and be happy :-).
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[gentoo-user] gtkhtml-1.1.0.ebuild

[Bob Barry]

I ran into an error when I tried to emerge gtkhtml:

checking for msgfmt... /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for dcgettext... yes
checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext
checking for catalogs to be installed...  az ca cs da de el es et eu fi fr gl 
hu it ja ko lt lv ms nl nn no pl pt pt_BR ru sk sl sv tr uk vi zh_CN zh_TW
sed: can't read ./intl/po2tbl.sed.in: No such file or directory
checking for Gnome App libraries (GAL) >= 0.20.1.99... 0.24 found
checking for Gnome configuration applet libraries >= 1.0.0... not found
configure: error: 

You need Gnome configuration applet libraries 1.0.0 or later to build gtkhtml.

!!! ERROR: gnome-extra/gtkhtml-1.1.10 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 66, Exitcode 1
!!! (no error message)

Do I simply need to emerge a pre-requisite package containing the Gnome
configuration applet libraries?  If so, what is the name of the package?

File "configure" refers to 'pkgname="capplet"', but I don't find an ebuild for 
"capplet".
I installed libcapplet-1.5.11.tar.gz (for which there is no ebuild), but that didn't 
help.

I googled about this, and it seems to be a very common problem - but I did not
find the answer.  Either the ebuild's dependencies should include the capplet
package, or the error message should give its name.

TIA,

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 + alsa = terrible

[Dennis Robertson]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 05:25 pm, Dennis Robertson wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:18 pm, Redeeman wrote:
> > did u emerge the latest versions of alsautils and alsalib? and anothing
> > things, what option do you use on DXS SUPPORT? :)
> >
> > On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 13:29, Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote:
> > > I don't recall any problems using the 2.6-test kernels.  However, with
> > > 2.6.1/2 my sound is terrible.  I get whining, crackling periodicly.
> > >
> > > I've tried add 'apm=idle-threshold=100' to my grub line, as well as
> > > disabling APM/CPU_IDLE.  Neither seemed to help... anyone else have
> > > any ideas/suggestions?
> > >
> > > Card: VIA 8235
> > > Chip: Realtek ALC650 rev 3
> > >
> > >   Kurt
>
> I had the same problem arise after upgrading to KDE3.2 using 2.6.0-mm1
> which previously had given no trouble. The noise started as alsa was loaded
> on boot and lasted about 2 mins. I noticed that alsa-lib was v1.0.2 while
> the rest of alsa were v0.9.8. I downgraded alsa-lib to 0.9.8 and so far,
> touch wood, the problem has not recurred.

Correction. I spoke too soon. The problem remains. I have also downgraded 
module-init-tools as recommended in bugzilla a few days ago, with no effect. 
I hope someone has a solution to this irritating problem.
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Re: [gentoo-user] debug script

[Paul Stear]

On Sun 8 February 2004 20:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 040208 Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
> > Paul Stear wrote:
> >>>  bash -x script
> >>
> >> that's just what I was looking for.  Where did you find it?
> >> I thought I had checked all docs, perhaps I was asleep
> >
> > I learned it some years ago probably from "man sh" on another unix.
> > If u can't find it in "man bash" it's probably
> > because programmers commonly hate to write/update manuals :-(.
> > Sometimes it's worth to read/compare manuals on another unix systems.
> > Some of them are really fine and web accessible.
>
> yes, it's remarkable: it's not listed by 'man bash';
> if you seek help via 'bash --help', then 'bash -c "help set"', it is
> listed.
>
> i have it in my home-made distill'n of 'man bash',
> but i've no record where/when i heard re it:
> prob'ly on Mandrake User judging by the 'last altered' date on the file.

Thank alot,
It works like a dream
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Norbert Kamenicky]

Pawel J Maczewski wrote:

I'd like to see your X config file... 
Here it follows:



# Radeon 7500 + Eizo F56 + Genius Netmouse Pro + xfree-drm

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "radeon + netmouse + eizo"
Screen 0"Screen0"   0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0""CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection


Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath"unix/:-1"
EndSection


Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"dbe"
Load"extmod"
Load"fbdevhw"
Load"glx"
Load"dri"
Load"record"
Load"freetype"
Load"type1"
EndSection


Section "DRI"
Mode0666
EndSection
 

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc105"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us,sk_qwerty"
Option  "XkbOptions""grp:switch,grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "NetMousePS/2"
Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Eizo F56"
VendorName  "Eizo"
ModelName   "F56"
HorizSync   27.0-86.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
DisplaySize 315 235
Option  "dpms"

Modeline "1152x864"   110   1152 1240 1324 1552 864  864  876  908

Modeline "1024x768"   98.9  1024 1056 1216 1408 768 782 788 822 -HSync -VSync
  
Modeline  "800x600"60.75  800  864  928 1088 600  616  621  657 -HSync -VSync

EndSection


Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Radeon 7500"
Driver  "radeon"
VendorName  "ATI Radeon 7500"
BoardName   "ATi RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]"
Option  "AGPMode" "4"
Option  "AGPSize" "64"
Option  "AGPFastWrite" "on"
EndSection


Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Screen0"
Device  "ATI Radeon 7500"
Monitor "Eizo F56"
DefaultDepth24

Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" 
EndSubsection
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Re: [gentoo-user] Don't update linux headers ! NEW Gentoo install broken

[Arne Vogel]

Ted Ozolins wrote:

I use to look after quite a few win98 boxes for some of the eldery 
arround Edmonton Alberta. One of the gents had gotten a complete 
computer system as a bonus for buying a new car. He got so tired of 
having a window pop up requesting him to register his O/S that he 
decided to take matters in his own hand and deleted that dang 
"regestry" . He didn't think that a software company had the right to 
clutter his desktop with that crap every time he started his 
computer.  He thought he had deleted whatever was asking him to 
register. I informed him that he had made the right choice  I 
put Caldera 1.3 on it and he's been using linux since.

Excellent! :-D
But isn't Caldera now SCO? *shudder*
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Harald Arnesen]

Manuel McLure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Stroller wrote:
>> Which will give best bang-per-buck..?
>> - 64Mb ATI 7000 DDR with TV/Out for £23
>> - 64Mb ATI Radeon 7500LE SDR AGP TV Out for £30
>> - 128Mb ATI Radeon (Sapphire) 9200SE Tv/Out for £35
>
> I'd go for the 9200 for bang/buck - however, you will need to use the
> ATI binary drivers for 3D. If you get the 7000/7500 you should be able
> to use the DRI open-source drivers.

I have a 9200, and I use open-source drivers. Kernel 2.6.3,
XFree86 4.3.99.902. Works fine.
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[gentoo-user] Getting overlay to work? with saa7108e & kernel 2.6

[Michael Wever]

I have upgraded, in parallel, my pc from Redhat 9 Kernel 2.4.x to
Gentoo Kernel 2.6.x
On my old system I used xawtv with overlay on my GeForce460MX (rivatv and
saa7108e modules).

Now on the 2.6 kernel I cannot get video-in overlay to work anymore and I
have no idea what the kernel requirements are! And the grabdisplay
performance is not upto scratch.
Note, grabdisplay never worked on the kernel 2.4, so I'm puzzled to the
swap of functionality..

I can boot into the old system and overlay still works fine so it is not a
limitation of the hardware.

Can anyone help me as to information about how to get overlay to work?

Mick.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 09 Feb 2004 04:03, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> somebody should put a message into the ebuild that FB and NVIDA is a
> NONO. This will never work.

Of course it works, as long as you use the VESA framebuffer.  It's the 
Riva framebuffer that causes problems with Nvidia.

> And it has been pointed out millions of times. (I can't even think
> why anybody could want FB, if he is using X anyway).

I told you a zillion times not to exaggerate :-)
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] More Graphics Cards Recommendations..? Was: Re: kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 09 Feb 2004 10:32, Grendel wrote:
> No, it means that if you use a frame buffer, then you will have to
> use linux's agp driver instead of nvidias agp driver. reall there
> isnt much difference but the nvidia agp driver seems stabler than
> linux's agp driver. But there is very little difference practically I
> think.

I'm sorry but that is absolute rubbish.

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[gentoo-user] ispell-3.2.06-r5 compilation error

[Christoph Gysin]

I tried to emerge ispell-3.2.06-r5

...
+ bison -y parse.y
parse.y:676.17: syntax error, unexpected "|"
parse.y:706.50-51: invalid $ value
parse.y:706.50-51: $3 of `option_stmt' has no declared type
parse.y:712.74-75: invalid $ value
parse.y:712.74-75: $3 of `option_stmt' has no declared type
+ gcc -O -c y.tab.c
gcc: y.tab.c: No such file or directory
gcc: no input files
+ mv y.tab.o parse.o
mv: cannot stat `y.tab.o': No such file or directory
+ rm -f y.tab.c
+ gcc -O -o buildhash buildhash.o hash.o makedent.o parse.o
gcc: parse.o: No such file or directory
make: *** [buildhash] Error 1
I have bison-1.875 installed.

Any hints?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem after upgrade to kde 3.2

[Vanh Phom]

On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 06:33, Simon Prosser wrote:
> On Sunday 08 February 2004 14:28, Vanh Phom wrote:
> > After  upgrade to kde 3.2, qt 3.3. I'm now having problem emerging kde
> > apps
> have you tried it against qt-3.2.3? ive had no problems as of yet..
> 
> *  x11-libs/qt-3.2.3-r1 :
> [  I] 3.2.3-r1 (3)
> 
> *  kde-base/kdebase-3.2.0 :
> [M~I] 3.2.0 (3.2) OVERLAY
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Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: boot problem, login immediately after init start

[Robert Svoboda]

* Robert Svoboda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-02-07 09:17]:
> Hi all,
> 
> when I rebooted my machine yesterday, what was my surprise
> when booting my freshly compiled kernel (2.6.1) booting
> finished immediately after init start (I think so), last
> messages I've seen were:
> 
> ...
> INIT: version 2.84 booting
> INIT: entering runlevel 3
> 
> and here login prompt appears
 
Problem was in /sbin/rc script, which is called from inittab.
Line in inittab is:

si::sysinit:/sbin/rc sysinit

when I tried this with knoppix in chrooted environment
(called /sbin/rc sysinit from cli), the only message was:
Segmentation fault ;-)

So I went through /sbin/rc doing some simple debugging with
echo and found, that if I comment out this line:

rc_splash_init

everything works... :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Norbert Kamenicky]

Grendel wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,


Grendel wrote:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:

I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for 
linux :-)

Grendel

It's a question what u mean by "support".

If by support u mean delivery of crappy proprietary closed
code drivers, u are right.


First of all, let me illustrate the fallacy of the above comments.

1. Crappy?? Well dude the last time I checked NVIDIA linux drivers frame
rates are equivalent to the windows drivers. The same game sometimes gives 
better frame rates than the windows version. Also the stability is 
excellent, I have been playing neverwinter nights with full detail on for 
I have seen a lot of nvidia stability related problems in ML's.
And personally had problems to make nvidia to work on VIA chipset
using proprietary drivers.
12 hours continously, of course I took a trip to the loo in between ;-) 
but the game was running for 12 hours continously without a single crash 
or lockup.

Hmmm ... I never had troubles with xfree-drm and Radeon 7500.


IMHO NVIDIA provides the best support for linux 3d hardware accelrated 
cards. Just see how difficult it is to setup 3d under ATI cards.
 
It depends, if u know it, it's really easy :-).


Its the opensource nvidia (nv.o) drivers which are crappy and have poor 3d 
support, with poor 3d features.

Fine, but it's only a logical result of fact, nvidia hide documentation.


IMHO support for Open software system (as Linux is) means
open drivers & documentation.


I am sure RMS (Richard Stallman) would be happy with a fanatical disciple 
of free software like you. 

It has nothing to do with fanatism, but security ...
I have lot of experience with proprietary software, and can say
in many cases code was stolen from Open source, but badly implemented.
Today are 3D drivers very sophistcated, but if sources are open
mistakes can be easier patched and deceptions easier discovered.
(nvidia likes to do it, check google for "nvidia benchmark scandal")
Probably everybody knows about microshit XP "remote supervision feature".
Would u like to have an OS, which is totally under the control of
microshit stuff, government, secret services and/or mafia ?
I would not be surprised if herd of trojan horses or some security holes
are discovered in nvidia drivers.
Lets face the real world, I want good performance out of my 3d card and I 
dont care even if it is a propritary driver, whats difference does it make 
to me, I am not going to get my computer blessed for running 100% free 
software by St ignucius (RMS) am I?  

If the open source driver is better than the propritary one then by 
all means I will use the opensource driver, otherwise I will stick with 
nvidia.com.
It's fine, u can make a choice ... IMHO.

At least they are decent enough to support linux in this way, so be 
thankful, there was a time when 3d card companies couldnt care about linux 
at all.
This is only a question of linux spreadness.
If linux comunity has 50% OS installed, am am sure all producers
have to support it (or they lose the market).
Grendel

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[gentoo-user] Backup Procedure?

[Paul Stear]

Hi all,
I have been working on a backup solution for my home system and have a full 
backup of /home and then incremental backups for the rest of the week.
I know how to uncompress and and action the full backup, but have 2 questions 
regarding the incremental.
The incremental only tar the files that have changed or are new, which is what 
I want, however, my script also saves empty directories, which I don't want.
1. How can I exclude empty directories?
2. What is the correct way to install the incremental backups after the full 
backup is installed so that my home directory is back to normal i.e. I don't 
want full directories over written with empty ones or end up with just a few 
files.
This is probably a dumb question, but I am learning.

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Thomas Preissler]

Hello Norbert,

* Norbert schrieb am 09.02.2004:

> Grendel wrote:
> >On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,
> >
> >
> >>Grendel wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Manuel McLure wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I would definitely go for a NVIDIA card as NVIDIA has better support for 
> >>>linux :-)
> >>>
> >>>Grendel
> >>>
> >>
> >>It's a question what u mean by "support".
> >>
> >>If by support u mean delivery of crappy proprietary closed
> >>code drivers, u are right.
> >
> >
> >First of all, let me illustrate the fallacy of the above comments.
> >
> >1. Crappy?? Well dude the last time I checked NVIDIA linux drivers frame
> >rates are equivalent to the windows drivers. The same game sometimes gives 
> >better frame rates than the windows version. Also the stability is 
> >excellent, I have been playing neverwinter nights with full detail on for 
> 
> I have seen a lot of nvidia stability related problems in ML's.
> And personally had problems to make nvidia to work on VIA chipset
> using proprietary drivers.

I have a AMD Duron 700 with a NVIDIA Geforce 2 MX. When I switch
videomode the computer hangs somtimes - as mentioned in various
forums - "mem=nopentium" as kernelparameter works great. For about
one week my computer was not freezed by that AMD bug.

I have a few links, but they are all German :-((


Greets,
Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,

> Grendel wrote:
> I have seen a lot of nvidia stability related problems in ML's.
> And personally had problems to make nvidia to work on VIA chipset
> using proprietary drivers.

Most are due to linux's buggy ACPI implementations. VIA support is much 
better in the latest 5336 release. 
 

> Hmmm ... I never had troubles with xfree-drm and Radeon 7500.

But how were the frame rates in 3d when compared with windows versions of 
the same application.
 
> > IMHO NVIDIA provides the best support for linux 3d hardware accelrated 
> > cards. Just see how difficult it is to setup 3d under ATI cards.
> >  
> 
> It depends, if u know it, it's really easy :-).
 
The NVIDIA installer makes everything easy.
 
> > Its the opensource nvidia (nv.o) drivers which are crappy and have poor 3d 
> > support, with poor 3d features.
> > 
> 
> Fine, but it's only a logical result of fact, nvidia hide documentation.
 
So does ATI for that matter.
 
> > I am sure RMS (Richard Stallman) would be happy with a fanatical disciple 
> > of free software like you. 
> > 
> Today are 3D drivers very sophistcated, but if sources are open
> mistakes can be easier patched and deceptions easier discovered.
> (nvidia likes to do it, check google for "nvidia benchmark scandal")

Hmm...Yes I know the incident but ATI also does it, all the major 
manufacturers tweak there drivers so that certain benchmark utilities like 
3dmark, quake3, and splinter cell all run faster (or appear to run 
faster). Its commonplace and not really cheating. 

NVIDIA was forced to do this because the creaters of benchmark utility 
3dmark2003 did not include real world 3d tests in that release, just some 
theoretical benchmarking which had no significant impact on the real world 
3d performance (like games). 3dmark2003 were widely criticised for 
favouring ATI in there benchmark.

> I would not be surprised if herd of trojan horses or some security holes
> are discovered in nvidia drivers.

Now you ARE letting your emotion run riot, lets say that if this were the 
case it would have been long detected by various firewalls and packet 
sniffers that the linux geeks use. Linux guys are more sophistcated and 
such spyware would have been detected instantly if this is the case.
 
> > If the open source driver is better than the propritary one then by 
> > all means I will use the opensource driver, otherwise I will stick with 
> > nvidia.com.
> 
> It's fine, u can make a choice ... IMHO.

BTW IIRC ATI also has binary drivers right? For them its more 
competetiveness ie ATI dont want to let NVIDIA know how there 3dcards work 
and vice versa than anything else.

> > At least they are decent enough to support linux in this way, so be 
> > thankful, there was a time when 3d card companies couldnt care about linux 
> > at all.
> 
> This is only a question of linux spreadness.


Or when the company is about to go bankrupt, old timers will recall 3dfx 
opensourcing there vodoo drivers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Thomas Preissler commented thusly,

> I have a AMD Duron 700 with a NVIDIA Geforce 2 MX. When I switch
> videomode the computer hangs somtimes - as mentioned in various
> forums - "mem=nopentium" as kernelparameter works great. For about
> one week my computer was not freezed by that AMD bug.
>
> I have a few links, but they are all German :-((


Again this is not due to a buggy nvidia driver, but due to linux's 
instability on nforce platforms. Many people like to blame a closed source 
driver when its really the OS's fault.
 
Bye,
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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Daniel Drake]

Grendel wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Mike Williams commented thusly,


- Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition
and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)?
Not to my knowledge.


I too am a user about to install gentoo, I have been postponing it till I
get some good old scottish whisky to put me in the mood, I am kind of 
feeling sentimental about having toi kick mandrake out :)

With regard to this aspect of the question, surely gentoo must handle this 
hardware detection and installation of necessary drivers well? The livecd 
which I booted into recognised all my hardware and loaded the ethernet 
card so I had a network connection working, so the base system which we 
install to the hdd must have some kind of auto detection, otherwise do we 
have to type the alias eth0 rtl8139too commands manuall to the 
/etc/modulesxxx files?
Thats only the livecd.
For your real install, you will need to:
- Compile support for your network card into the kernel
- Add it to modules.autoload if you compiled it as a module
- Configure /etc/conf.d/net for DHCP or static IP.
I don't understand what is meant by the original question (scanners/printers). 
Are you asking if there is an autoconfiguration method? If so, not natively as 
part of gentoo. However, a well configured system (even default 
configurations) will handle the addition/removal of devices like this well, e.g.:
- If you use hotplug, it will load the printer module when you plug in your 
printer, and remove it when its disconnected
- If you try and print before the printer is connected, CUPS will queue the 
job and wait until the printer appaers
- You can't scan unless your scanner is plugged in

Or did I misunderstand the question?

Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] More Graphics Cards Recommendations..? Was: Re: kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004,  Peter Ruskin commented thusly,

> On Monday 09 Feb 2004 10:32, Grendel wrote:
> > No, it means that if you use a frame buffer, then you will have to
> > use linux's agp driver instead of nvidias agp driver. reall there
> > isnt much difference but the nvidia agp driver seems stabler than
> > linux's agp driver. But there is very little difference practically I
> > think.
> 
> I'm sorry but that is absolute rubbish.

Could you please show me why this is the case? Just give me some facts or 
benchmarks please rather than making one liners like the above, which do 
not reflect well on your disposition.

All what i know is that 
1. If you have agpgart and nvidia_agp loaded then you CANNOT run nvidias 
AGP driver.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Alexandre Aractingi]

Le lun 09/02/2004 à 12:08, Daniel Drake a écrit :
> I don't understand what is meant by the original question (scanners/printers). 
> Are you asking if there is an autoconfiguration method? If so, not natively as 
> part of gentoo. However, a well configured system (even default 
> configurations) will handle the addition/removal of devices like this well, e.g.:
> - If you use hotplug, it will load the printer module when you plug in your 
> printer, and remove it when its disconnected
> - If you try and print before the printer is connected, CUPS will queue the 
> job and wait until the printer appaers
> - You can't scan unless your scanner is plugged in
> 
> Or did I misunderstand the question?

I meant an autodetect tool to help install new devices with appropriate
drivers (coming from Mandrake, I'm looking for a 'harddrake'
replacement, which is not crucial but comes in handy from time to time)

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Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom 4400 NIC

[Kurt Guenther]

The network and machine are fine as both redhat and the LiveCD are able
to boot up just fine.

I looked at my log, and the odd thing is that the kernel is trying to
bring up eth1 with b44.  I only have one nic, so I would think it
should be eth0.  

I used 'genkernel', but I'll recompile the kernel when I get a chance. 

--Kurt



Rudmer van Dijk wrote:

  Hi,

On Monday 09 February 2004 04:08, Kurt Guenther wrote:
  
  
I unemerged the bcm4400 driver.  The kernel driver is b44.  I verified
that it was built and installed in
/lib/modules/xxx/kernel/drivers/net/b44.o & I can insmod it.

  
  
these are the messages I have kernel-2.6.3-rc1 (`dmesg | grep b44`)
b44.c:v0.92 (Nov 4, 2003)
b44: eth0: Link is down.
b44: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex.
b44: eth0: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX.

I had the same sort of trouble with linux-2.6.2-mm1 could not get a connection 
but the rest seemed to work. my solution was simple: use another kernel.

  
  
??  It's still not working, so I must be missing something.  How do I
get this configured, so that I can bring up my network interface correctly?

  
  
well, is your network working??
can you verify that the link is up? (either by looking at the leds or unplug 
and plug the network cable and watch the kernel messages)

try to configure your network with a static IP (use an ip in the same range as 
your dhcp server would give)

is your dhcp server correctly configured / working?

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Daniel Drake commented thusly,

> Thats only the livecd.
> For your real install, you will need to:
> - Compile support for your network card into the kernel
> - Add it to modules.autoload if you compiled it as a module
> - Configure /etc/conf.d/net for DHCP or static IP.

I see, so that means that the dhcp client side programs are automatically 
installed and that I dont have to manually install them right?

Thanks a lot for the information.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Has anyone actually gotten squidguard to compile?

[Eric Livingston]

> The squidguard ebuild on my system indicates that it RDEPENDS on
> >=sys-libs/db-2, meaning that any version of the db package >= 2 should
> satisfy this dependency.

Ok, I think I've figured it out. After rooting around in the source code a
bit and comparing with various db.h versions, it seems to me that SquidGuard
can't deal with db-4.1.

Unfortunately, db-4.1 and db-4.0 both want to redirect softlinks to db.h and
relevant libraries, but are incompatible.

So, I had to umerge db-4.1, re-emerge db-4.0 to re-establish the links,
emerge squidguard (successfully, this time), then re-emerge db-4.1.

This is all ok, but I'm now concerned that any time squidguard gets updated
and I do a "emerge -u world" it'll break again, requiring me to go through
the above process. That seems kind of lame.

I'll enter a bug for this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Norbert Kamenicky]

Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
- I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I
particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally
Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting
much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little
bit less comfort.
Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw
and/or it will run just after installation.
If u are really very happy with Mandrake, and do not
like to learn lot of new things, stay with it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Daniel Drake]

Hi,

Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
I meant an autodetect tool to help install new devices with appropriate
drivers (coming from Mandrake, I'm looking for a 'harddrake'
replacement, which is not crucial but comes in handy from time to time)


Ah. Gentoo doesn't have anything like this as standard, but I guess there may 
be some tools out there. Generally, gentooists go through the configuration 
manually - it usually isnt too long winded. There is plenty of information on 
the forums about this kind of thing (CUPS setup etc), but if you don't have 
the time, then you might consider using some of the wizards that KDE/similar 
include.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:30:06 +0600 (LKT) Grendel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| Hmm...Yes I know the incident but ATI also does it, all the major 
| manufacturers tweak there drivers so that certain benchmark utilities
| like 3dmark, quake3, and splinter cell all run faster (or appear to
| run faster). Its commonplace and not really cheating. 
| 
| NVIDIA was forced to do this because the creaters of benchmark utility

How much are nVidia paying you to spread this junk? Before you go any
further, I suggest looking up the little memory corruption problem in
the LKML archives. Or the virtual console problem. Or the amd64 issues.
Or the sysfs screwup. Or any of a dozen other bugs that nVidia won't let
us fix.

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Re: [gentoo-user] HELP: Problem in rebooting after running 'emerge -u world'

[Nox Motard]

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 14:59:23 +0800
Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ernie Schroder wrote:
> 
> >>- snip -
> >>
> >>
> >>>Stephen Liu wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>
> Hi all folks,
> 
> I encountered problem in rebooting Gentoo 1.4 after running
> 
> # emerge -u world
> 
> IIRC the last item updated is "betagenkernel"
> 
> During rebooting following warning popup;
> 
> ..
> 
> Checking all filesystems...
> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while tryinng to open
> /dev/BOOT /dev/BOOT:
> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct
> ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then
> the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with
> an alternate superblock:
> e2fsck - b 8193 
> 
> * Fsck could not correct all errors, manual repair need
> 
> Give root password for maintaince
> (or type Control-D for normal startup):
> 
> No root password is required to enter. If typing in root
> password I can't enter, following warning popup;
> Login incorrect
> 
> It is rather strange
> 
> Tried;
> # fsck /dev/hda
> # fsck /dev/hda1
> # fsck /dev/hda3
> etc.
> 
> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while tryinng to open
> /dev/hda .. /dev/hda1
> ../dev/hda3
> etc.
> 
> (remark: harddrive is connected to a ATA controller card)
> IIRC Gentoo is running on 'reiser fs' . How to check it.
> 
> Furthermore 'reboot' (soft) has no effect. I have to press
> hard-reboot (reset button)
> 
> Kindly advise how to fix the problem.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Stephen Liu
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> > When you ran etc-update after your emerge -u world, you overwrote 
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> >  
> >
> 
> Hi Ernie,
> 
> Thanks for your response.  I have not ran 'etc-update' in this test.
> 
> I ran
> 
> # emerge -u world
> 
> ending up with following warning and exited 'emerge -u world'
> 
> ..
> ..
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `init':
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:51: error: structure has no member named `flags'
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `parse':
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: structure has no member named `flags'
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
> (first use in this function)
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: (Each undeclared identifier is 
> reported only once
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: for each function it appears in.)
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `print':
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:186: error: structure has no member named `flags'
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:186: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
> (first use in this function)
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `save':
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:209: error: structure has no member named `flags'
> extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:209: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
> (first use in this function)
> make: *** [extensions/libipt_ROUTE_sh.o] Error 1
> 
> !!! ERROR: net-firewall/iptables-1.2.9 failed.
> !!! Function src_compile, Line 53, Exitcode 2
> !!! (no error message)
> 
> 
> This warning appeared before and I could not fixed it (I have posted 
> this problem on Gentoo forum but without a solution)
> 
> I ran  '# emerge -u world'  on Konsole window.  Login as USER on KDE 
> desktop first, started Konsole window and then 'su -' as ROOT
> 
> I rebooted on Konsole window but could not start Gentoo.  As I recalled, 
> before rebooting, I tried to start another Konsole window on KDE 
> desktop, it popup 'hostname not found..' and I could not 'su -'
> 
> B.R.
> Stephen
> 
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Hello,

I think that you overwrite some of your /etc files.

To su - verify that you're in the group wheel in /etc/group

for hostname problem re-edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.conf

If you can repopulate /etc with a backup it should be great for you but if not reedit 
one by one your /etc files.

Don't know what you've done but it seems there's a problem.

Verify your CONFIG_PROTECT variable

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Grendel wrote:
I see, so that means that the dhcp client side programs are automatically 
installed and that I dont have to manually install them right?
The package you will need is "dhcpcd". On my system, thats part of the system 
profile, so it should get installed automatically.

Even so, if it doesn't, its very simple to install it (like the majority of 
other gentoo packages):

emerge dhcpcd

If you give Gentoo a chance, you will grow to love portage :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] More Graphics Cards Recommendations..? Was: Re: kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Peter Ruskin]

On Monday 09 Feb 2004 13:35, Grendel wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004,  Peter Ruskin commented thusly,
>
> > On Monday 09 Feb 2004 10:32, Grendel wrote:
> > > No, it means that if you use a frame buffer, then you will have
> > > to use linux's agp driver instead of nvidias agp driver. reall
> > > there isnt much difference but the nvidia agp driver seems
> > > stabler than linux's agp driver. But there is very little
> > > difference practically I think.
> >
> > I'm sorry but that is absolute rubbish.
>
> Could you please show me why this is the case? Just give me some
> facts or benchmarks please rather than making one liners like the
> above, which do not reflect well on your disposition.
>
> All what i know is that
> 1. If you have agpgart and nvidia_agp loaded then you CANNOT run
> nvidias AGP driver.
>
Your first sentence was incorrect.  Whether or not you use VESA 
framebuffer, you _can_ use AGPGART or the Nvidia AGP driver.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Norbert Kamenicky]

Grendel wrote:


But how were the frame rates in 3d when compared with windows versions of 
the same application.
 
This I really don't care, since I haven't any copy of that M$ shit.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Ciaran McCreesh commented thusly,

> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:30:06 +0600 (LKT) Grendel
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> | Hmm...Yes I know the incident but ATI also does it, all the major 
> | manufacturers tweak there drivers so that certain benchmark utilities
> | like 3dmark, quake3, and splinter cell all run faster (or appear to
> | run faster). Its commonplace and not really cheating. 
> | 
> | NVIDIA was forced to do this because the creaters of benchmark utility
> 
> How much are nVidia paying you to spread this junk? Before you go any
> further, I suggest looking up the little memory corruption problem in
> the LKML archives. Or the virtual console problem. Or the amd64 issues.
> Or the sysfs screwup. Or any of a dozen other bugs that nVidia won't let
> us fix.

Well if you dont like the NVIDIA driver so much, then dont use it period. 
Just stick with the opensource driver from XFree. 

the reason they arent open sourcing is that they are (justifiably) afraid 
that ATI will have a look at their driver interface to the card, then they 
(ATI) can figure out the current wekneses of NVIDIA cards and improve 
there ATI's based on that. Its not that they dont like the linux 
community, if that is the case they wouldnt even bother about releasing 
even a closed source driver.

Just get realistic and tell me does nvidia make a profit by writing a 
driver for linux, no way at all, the windows market for nvidia cards is 
much greater than the linux desktop market which is very small. So they 
are doing a service and if you dont like what they are producing then 
instead of grumbling just use any other driver you like.

Even if they open sourced it, it would probablky take years for people to
figure out how the code works, remember that 3d cards are really rocket
science. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,

> Grendel wrote:
> 
> 
> > But how were the frame rates in 3d when compared with windows versions of 
> > the same application.
> >  
> 
> This I really don't care, since I haven't any copy of that M$ shit.
 
Ahh.a true open source disciple :-)
My friend I dont like windows any more than you do, but I need it to play 
my games like vice city, Sturmovik etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Alexandre Aractingi]

Le lun 09/02/2004 à 14:46, Norbert Kamenicky a écrit :
> Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting
> much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little
> bit less comfort.
> Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw
> and/or it will run just after installation.

I wasn't asking about GUIs, I was asking about binary distribution of
licence-problematic softwares. From what I read Portage works more or
less as urpmi for Mandrake, so it's a great tool, and I was asking if it
was possible to feed it with software like libdvdcss (which is yes from
one of the first answers :-))

> If u are really very happy with Mandrake, and do not
> like to learn lot of new things, stay with it.

I'm really happy with Mandrake, which doesn't conflicts with me being
curious about other things, like Gentoo for example. I'll stay with Mdk
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Re: [gentoo-user] More Graphics Cards Recommendations..? Was: Re: kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Peter Ruskin commented thusly,

> Your first sentence was incorrect.  Whether or not you use VESA 
> framebuffer, you _can_ use AGPGART or the Nvidia AGP driver.

Possible, in that case I would say I am sorry for giving wrong 
information. I dont know much about frame buffer modes.

Grendel. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] HELP: Problem in rebooting after running 'emerge -u world'

[Christoph Gysin]

Stephen Liu wrote:
Thanks for your response.  I have not ran 'etc-update' in this test.
You did not? So, this must be your first reboot since installing gentoo.

Repeat chapter 7 from the installation guide at 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml, chroot as described 
in chapter 8 and edit /etc/fstab as described in chapter 15.

Feel free to ask again if any problem occurs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,

> Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
> > - I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I
> > particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally
> > 
> 
> Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting
> much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little
> bit less comfort.
> Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw
> and/or it will run just after installation.

Actually I wonder why this is the case. I was really impressed by the way 
the livecd detected all of my hardware and autoconfigured it (it even 
detected by nforce2 nvnet driver, so far the only installation to do 
this). 
Surely the same tool(s) can also be installed as part of the base package, 
which can be optionally invoked by the user if necessary and which will 
modify the necesasry files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom 4400 NIC

[Rudmer van Dijk]

On Monday 09 February 2004 14:31, Kurt Guenther wrote:
> The network and machine are fine as both redhat and the LiveCD are able
> to boot up just fine.

ok, network is fine then (you already said it earlier, but I missed it).

> I looked at my log, and the odd thing is that the kernel is trying to
> bring up eth1 with b44.  I only have one nic, so I would think it should
> be eth0.

this probably means that you have put eth1 in some config file 
/etc/conf.d/net should be fine since you have iface_eth0="dhcp"
but what of IFACE in /etc/conf.d/dhcp?

Please note: I'm not very familiar with dhcp, so I cannot really help... sorry

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Re: [gentoo-user] missing libstdc++.so.5

[Andrej Moravcik]

Don't panic, it looks many people ecountered this problem. Look at this 
thread in gentoo forum:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=133497&highlight=libstdc

Andrej

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I emerged the new gcc (3.3.2-r5)  (emerge -u gcc).
It seems that emerge removed gcc 3.2.3 INCLUDING libstdc++.so.5
This means that python no longer works:
python
python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
and that emerge doesn't work.  (all other c++ based programs are also broken.)

I still have gcc-3.2.3.tar.bz2 in /usr/portage/distifiles and was going to compile it by hand to get
libstdc++.so.5 back.   

Will this work?  Anyone have a better idea?

(Guess I'll start backing up /lib and /usr/lib in addition to /etc and /home)

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[gentoo-user] "su" problems after running "emerge world -U"

[Anthony Hoppe]

I just ran "emerge world -U" a little while ago.  Now I can't change to
superuser in a console.  What do I do?! *panics*


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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Monday 09 February 2004 05:49, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> On Sunday 08 February 2004 11:03 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Monday 09 February 2004 04:20, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> > > Checking things out, I find that agpgart and nvidia-agp (both
> > > built as modules) are loaded at boot and trying to rmmod them
> > > fails saying they are in use. Does this happen due to frame
> > > buffer?
> > > CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
> >
> > somebody should put a message into the ebuild that FB and NVIDA is
> > a NONO. This will never work.
> > And it has been pointed out millions of times. (I can't even think
> > why anybody could want FB, if he is using X anyway).
> >
> > Try a kernel without that nonsense, should be a lot better...
>
> Frame buffer works just fine. That's not the problem.The caveat is if
> using an Nvidia card, you need to compile in the vesa framebuffer
> driver, NOT the nvidia FB support.

No,
#
# Graphics support
#
# CONFIG_FB is not set
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y

#
# Console display driver support
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_MDA_CONSOLE is not set
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y

directly from my config.

As you can see, no FB.
Why?
Because it is common known, that FB&nvidida binary driver, that FB&X are a 
very bad choice.

You do not need FB. Never. And if you want to use nvidia or ati-binary 
drivers, FB is not only bad, it is a false choice.

The only grakas, that need FB are SiS based, the rest NOT!

Glück Auf,
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Re: [gentoo-user] "su" problems after running "emerge world -U"

[Barry Marler]

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 06:43:34 -0800
Anthony Hoppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just ran "emerge world -U" a little while ago.  Now I can't change
> to superuser in a console.  What do I do?! *panics*
> 

Did you update baselayout? Did you run etc-update and allow /etc/group to be 
overwritten??  Sounds like it, since you have to be a member of the 'wheel' group to 
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[gentoo-user] How to run a script on shutdown?

[Paul Stear]

Hi again,

What is the best way to run a backup script after I have selected shutdown 
from the kdm choose?
Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] "su" problems after running "emerge world -U"

[lgatto]

Maybe, after emerging, you run etc-update and replaced your old 
/etc/group with an update where you username is not in the wheel group?
Hope this helps.

Anthony Hoppe wrote:
I just ran "emerge world -U" a little while ago.  Now I can't change to
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Re: [gentoo-user] Weird ext2/ext3 mount problems

[Michael Peppler]

On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 19:35, Andrey Kartashov wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 05:11:32PM -0800, Michael Peppler wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've just installed Gentoo on a new system, and I have some strangeness
> > in the ext3 mount for my root filesystem:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail # mount
> > /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
> > none on /tmp/.initrd/dev type devfs (rw)
> > /dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw,noatime)
> 
> I'd double check /etc/fstab. Is it possible that you have listed hda3 there
> more than once?

Yep - /dev/hda3 is only listed once. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to test crond actions ??

[Mike]

On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:25:48AM +0200, raptor wrote:
> hi,
> 
> Is there a way to test crontab... what i mean is to run a script in the same way the 
> crond did it, so I can check if there is some
> problems, permissions wrong etc...
> Otherwie I have to wait until crond trigger  the action and still have to guess what 
> is really happening by the external script actions...
> 
> Is there such a way to simulate full crond.. and later to be sure that when the 
> script executes after a day or so, everything will go fine...
> 

Why not just set it to run one time in five minutes? Then you can see
the result before having it run at its regular intervals.

Are you calling a script from your crontab? If that's the case just run
the script first to debug it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to run a script on shutdown?

[Nox Motard]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:59:56 +
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> Hi again,
> 
> What is the best way to run a backup script after I have selected shutdown 
> from the kdm choose?
> Thanks
> Paul
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Gard Spreemann]

Just to make sure you know: They're all absolutely horrible cards if you're 
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[gentoo-user] Mozilla Firefox (ugh, what a silly name) ebuild, anyone?

[Gard Spreemann]

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Re: [gentoo-user] HELP: Problem in rebooting after running 'emerge -u world'

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Christoph,

Thanks for your response

I have not ran 'etc-update' in this test.

You did not? So, this must be your first reboot since installing gentoo.
No, this Gentoo box has been running several months for test purpose.  
It has been idle for a period.  Last week I started

# emerge -u world

(Remark:  I operated all commands on Konsole window after login as USER 
on KDE desktop and then 'su -')

Because this is a slow machine it took about 6 x 24 hrs to complete.  
Finally it ended up as follows;

..
..
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `init':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:51: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `parse':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: (Each undeclared identifier is 
reported only once
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: for each function it appears in.)
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `print':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:186: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:186: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `save':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:209: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:209: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
make: *** [extensions/libipt_ROUTE_sh.o] Error 1

!!! ERROR: net-firewall/iptables-1.2.9 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 53, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
Then I ran

# emerge sync
# emerge -u world  (again)
But it returned to the same situation again.


Repeat chapter 7 from the installation guide at 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml, chroot as 
described in chapter 8 and edit /etc/fstab as described in chapter 15.
I am not quite familiar with rescue on Gentoo.  I shall do follows;

1) boot up the Gentoo box with the rescue diskette
2) mount /dev/hda3  /mnt/gentoo
3) mount /dev/hda1  /mnt/gentoo/boot
4) mount t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
5) chroot /mnt/gentoo  /bin/bash
6) nano -w /mnt/gentoo/etc/fstab (to edit  'fstab')
OR omitting step 4)

Kindly advise.   TIA

One thing I could not resolve why I can login as ROOT without password.  
If key in ROOT password then it says wrong password

B.R.
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[gentoo-user] Lockups with New Seagate HD, 2.6.2-mm1

[Michael Reid - CSCI/P2003]

Hello,

I recently bought a new 40gb laptop HD to replace my old 20gb one. Now I'm 
having hard lockups that I've never seen before. Does anyone know if a new 
HD is a likely culprit?

My laptop:

  IBM Thinkpad R31
  Celeron 1133mhz
  384 mb ram (upgraded from 128mb)
  40 gb hd (upgraded from 20gb)
  Intel 830/810/whatever video chipset

I've had very good stability with this laptop in the past, but now these 
lockups are baffling me. I didn't change much:

I replaced the old 20gb hd with the new Seagate one, I transferred the 
contents to the new one, with the help of my PC as an intermediate temp 
storage device. I then recompiled my kernel to support reiserfs, as I 
changed from JFS (this is a terrible fs IMO, don't use it).

(I won't post the method I used to migrate the data, its pretty convoluted 
and I can't rule out any problems caused by this, but I think everything's 
okay, I just want to know if anyone can tell me whether or not the HD 
could be causing this problem)

Right now I'm using the generic PIIx chipset driver, should I be using a 
different IDE driver? Does anyone else have this laptop that can post 
their kernel config (preferably a 2.6.x config)?

Any ideas are welcome.

Thanks much,
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Re: [gentoo-user] "su" problems after running "emerge world -U"

[Stephen Liu]

Anthony Hoppe wrote:

I just ran "emerge world -U" a little while ago.  Now I can't change to
superuser in a console.  What do I do?! *panics*
 

Hi Anthony,

I had the same situation as yours.  Please be careful and watch my 
thread 'HELP: Problem in rebooting after running 'emerge -u world'

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Stroller]

On Feb 9, 2004, at 3:14 pm, Gard Spreemann wrote:
Just to make sure you know: They're all absolutely horrible cards if 
you're
going to be doing some gaming...
The ATI ones..?
So a geForce would be worth the extra money..?
I'm tempted by the Abit 64Mb Siluro GeForce 3 VIO at #35 or the 64Mb 
XFX GeForce4 MX440 AGP 8x DDR TV at #35.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Marius Mauch]

On 02/09/04  Alexandre Aractingi wrote:

> Le lun 09/02/2004 à 14:46, Norbert Kamenicky a écrit :
> > Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting
> > much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little
> > bit less comfort.
> > Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw
> > and/or it will run just after installation.
> 
> I wasn't asking about GUIs, I was asking about binary distribution of
> licence-problematic softwares.

No on binary. If you don't know yet, portage is a source-centered
package manager.

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Re: [gentoo-user] "su" problems after running "emerge world -U"

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Barry,

I just ran "emerge world -U" a little while ago.  Now I can't change
to superuser in a console.  What do I do?! *panics*
Did you update baselayout? Did you run etc-update and allow /etc/group to be overwritten??  Sounds like it, since you have to be a member of the 'wheel' group to use su. 

I think his situation same as my case.  After running

"emerge -u world"

I started a new konsole window but could not 'su -'.  Then I rebooted 
machine and could not start the Gentoo box

(my thread 'HELP: Problem in rebooting after running 'emerge -u world')

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Ric Messier]

>
>No on binary. If you don't know yet, portage is a source-centered
>package manager.
>

Except that there are plenty of packages that rely on binary distributions for a 
variety of reasons.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Alexandre Aractingi]

Le lun 09/02/2004 à 16:36, Marius Mauch a écrit :
> No on binary. If you don't know yet, portage is a source-centered
> package manager.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

[Grendel]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Stroller commented thusly,

> 
> On Feb 9, 2004, at 3:14 pm, Gard Spreemann wrote:
> >
> > Just to make sure you know: They're all absolutely horrible cards if 
> > you're
> > going to be doing some gaming...
> 
> The ATI ones..?
> So a geForce would be worth the extra money..?
> I'm tempted by the Abit 64Mb Siluro GeForce 3 VIO at #35 or the 64Mb 
> XFX GeForce4 MX440 AGP 8x DDR TV at #35.

The ti4200 is also a good option it maybe more expensive than the mx440 
but the ti4200 can be really overclocked a lot. The ti4200 is certainly 
better in the fact that it has more 3d options and is a better performer 
than the mx440, but the price maybe a problem. Still there are a lot of 
ti4200 based boards out there and you can make your pick.

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Re: [gentoo-user] "su" problems after running "emerge world -U"

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Laurent,

lgatto wrote:

Maybe, after emerging, you run etc-update and replaced your old 
/etc/group with an update where you username is not in the wheel group?
I think Anthony's case is quite similar to mine.  I ran 'emerge -u 
world'.  Immediately after its completion I can't 'su -' on konsole 
window.  Then I rebooted the PC but Gentoo box could not start.

IIRC during 'emerge -u world' I saw on the screen upgrading 
'betagenkernel'  Would it be the cause???

B.R.
Stephen Liu
Hope this helps.

Anthony Hoppe wrote:

I just ran "emerge world -U" a little while ago.  Now I can't change to
superuser in a console.  What do I do?! *panics*




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Re: [gentoo-user] how to test crond actions ??

[raptor]

|> Is there a way to test crontab... what i mean is to run a script in the same way 
the crond did it, so I can check if there is some
|> problems, permissions wrong etc...
|> Otherwie I have to wait until crond trigger  the action and still have to guess 
what is really happening by the external script actions...
|> 
|> Is there such a way to simulate full crond.. and later to be sure that when the 
script executes after a day or so, everything will go fine...
|> 
|
|Why not just set it to run one time in five minutes? Then you can see
|the result before having it run at its regular intervals.

]- not very helpfull,  especialy when i can see maeningfull result after many 
invocations not just 2-3 ... such as rrd-driven scripts


|
|Are you calling a script from your crontab? If that's the case just run
|the script first to debug it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] HELP: Problem in rebooting after running 'emerge -u world'

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Nox,

Thanks for your response.

- snip -

Hi Ernie,

Thanks for your response.  I have not ran 'etc-update' in this test.

I ran

# emerge -u world

ending up with following warning and exited 'emerge -u world'

..
..
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `init':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:51: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `parse':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: (Each undeclared identifier is 
reported only once
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:138: error: for each function it appears in.)
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `print':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:186: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:186: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c: In function `save':
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:209: error: structure has no member named `flags'
extensions/libipt_ROUTE.c:209: error: `IPT_ROUTE_CONTINUE' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
make: *** [extensions/libipt_ROUTE_sh.o] Error 1

!!! ERROR: net-firewall/iptables-1.2.9 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 53, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
This warning appeared before and I could not fixed it (I have posted 
this problem on Gentoo forum but without a solution)

I ran  '# emerge -u world'  on Konsole window.  Login as USER on KDE 
desktop first, started Konsole window and then 'su -' as ROOT

I rebooted on Konsole window but could not start Gentoo.  As I recalled, 
before rebooting, I tried to start another Konsole window on KDE 
desktop, it popup 'hostname not found..' and I could not 'su -'

B.R.
Stephen
   

Hello,

I think that you overwrite some of your /etc files.

To su - verify that you're in the group wheel in /etc/group

for hostname problem re-edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.conf

If you can repopulate /etc with a backup it should be great for you but if not reedit one by one your /etc files.

Don't know what you've done but it seems there's a problem.

Verify your CONFIG_PROTECT variable

Another folk on the list also ran into the same situation similar to my 
case:

Could not 'su -' after running 'emerge -u world'

I doubt whether 'upgrading betagenkernel' has influence.  IIRC I saw 
upgrading it on the screen.

B.R.
Stephen


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[gentoo-user] Appropriate Stage3 tarball?

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

Is there a decent stage3 tarball that I should consider downloading to 
get a machine up and running quickly and yet have it as close to 
up-to-date with x86 as possible?  I would prefer a tarball that is of a 
known good quality, and not an experimental or testing version.

Thank you in advance,

Tom Veldhouse


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[gentoo-user] DMA

[Scharf Yuval]

Hello,

In a computer with a disk capable of DMA.

hdparm -i /dev/hda returns:
/dev/hda:

 Model=Maxtor 6E040L0, FwRev=NAR61590, SerialNo=E13CFB3E
 Config={ Fixed }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
 CurCHS=17475/15/63, CurSects=16513875, LBA=yes, LBAsects=80293248
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
 PIO modes:  pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
 DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 udma6
 AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled
 Drive conforms to: (null):

 * signifies the current active mode


but hdparm /dev/hda returns:

/dev/hda:
 multcount=  0 (off)
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  0 (off)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 65535/16/63, sectors = 80293248, start = 0


When I try turning the DMA on using hdparm -d1 /dev/hda I get:

/dev/hda:
 setting using_dma to 1 (on)
 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
 using_dma=  0 (off)

I'm using Linux 2.6 and as much as I can see all the DMA options in the
kernel are turned on. Can someone tell me what is the problem?


Thanks,
Yuval Scharf



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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Jakub Krajcovic]

I don't know what's the problem with using framebuffer??? I think that
the framebuffer is a great idea. Why bother with X all the time, when
sometimes you don;t even need to start it, and you can do all you need
in the console, even _graphically_ browse the net (yes, links it is).

An one more thing for the framebuffer: try watching divx/xvid/etc movies
in fullscreen on a pII 266, ati mach 64 4mb and 96 mb ram in X and see
how far you go. And thanks to the vesa framebuffer (but mplayer mostly
:-)), an old piece of junk is a great mobile multimedia station...


On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:45:03 +0100
"Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> directly from my config.
> 
> As you can see, no FB.
> Why?
> Because it is common known, that FB&nvidida binary driver, that FB&X
> are a very bad choice.
> 
> You do not need FB. Never. And if you want to use nvidia or ati-binary
> drivers, FB is not only bad, it is a false choice.
> 
> The only grakas, that need FB are SiS based, the rest NOT!

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Re: [gentoo-user] libwww-5.4.0-r[12] compile fails

[Arne Vogel]

Harlan wrote:

gcc -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -Wall -o .libs/libapp_1 libapp_1.o  
../src/.libs/libwwwinit.so -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -L/usr/lib 
../src/.libs/libwwwapp.so ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwxml.so 
../../modules/expat/xmlparse/.libs/libxmlparse.so 
../../modules/expat/xmltok/.libs/libxmltok.so ../src/.libs/libwwwhtml.so 
../src/.libs/libwwwtelnet.so ../src/.libs/libwwwnews.so 
../src/.libs/libwwwhttp.so ../src/.libs/libwwwmime.so 
../src/.libs/libwwwgopher.so ../src/.libs/libwwwftp.so 
../src/.libs/libwwwdir.so ../src/.libs/libwwwcache.so 
../src/.libs/libwwwstream.so ../src/.libs/libwwwfile.so 
../src/.libs/libwwwmux.so ../src/.libs/libwwwtrans.so 
../src/.libs/libwwwcore.so ../src/.libs/libwwwutils.so 
../../Library/src/SSL/.libs/libwwwssl.so ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwzip.so 
../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwsql.so ../../modules/md5/.libs/libmd5.so -ldl 
/usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so -lz -lcrypt -lnsl -lm -lssl -lcrypto 
-Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib/mysql
../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwsql.so: undefined reference to `mysql_connect'
../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwsql.so: undefined reference to `mysql_create_db'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libapp_1] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/libwww-5.4.0-r2/work/w3c-libwww-5.4.0/Library/Examples'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/libwww-5.4.0-r2/work/w3c-libwww-5.4.0/Library'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/libwww-5.4.0-r2/work/w3c-libwww-5.4.0'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

!!! ERROR: net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 53, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
 

Maybe try doing an "emerge mysql" first?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Appropriate Stage3 tarball?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:01:15 -0600 "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Is there a decent stage3 tarball that I should consider downloading to
| get a machine up and running quickly and yet have it as close to 
| up-to-date with x86 as possible?  I would prefer a tarball that is of
| a known good quality, and not an experimental or testing version.

Most recent are:

http://dev.gentoo.org/~beejay/stages/

or use catalyst to make your own. The most recent non-testing stage3s
are on the mirrors.

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Mail:ciaranm at gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

[Rainer Sigwald]

> > Frame buffer works just fine. That's not the problem.The caveat is if
> > using an Nvidia card, you need to compile in the vesa framebuffer
> > driver, NOT the nvidia FB support.

Yup.  rivafb + nvidia = bad

> You do not need FB. Never. And if you want to use nvidia or ati-binary 
> drivers, FB is not only bad, it is a false choice.

Funny, it works fine for me . . . and why is it a false choice?  Perhaps I
want to spend most of my time in a 1600x1200 console, but still play games
(or use CAD, or various other things) in X with the full awesomeness of my
video card.

Regarding the OP:  
$ uname -r
2.6.2-rc3
$ qpkg -I -v nvidia-kernel
media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.5336-r1 *

Works very well for me in 2d--I haven't gamed much, but NWN works at least
for a short time.  I'm also having no trouble switching from X to my
(framebuffered) consoles.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DMA

[Kevin Hanson]

Scharf Yuval wrote:

Hello,

In a computer with a disk capable of DMA.

hdparm -i /dev/hda returns:
/dev/hda:
Model=Maxtor 6E040L0, FwRev=NAR61590, SerialNo=E13CFB3E
Config={ Fixed }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
CurCHS=17475/15/63, CurSects=16513875, LBA=yes, LBAsects=80293248
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes:  pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 udma6
AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: (null):
* signifies the current active mode

but hdparm /dev/hda returns:

/dev/hda:
multcount=  0 (off)
IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
unmaskirq=  0 (off)
using_dma=  0 (off)
keepsettings =  0 (off)
readonly =  0 (off)
readahead= 256 (on)
geometry = 65535/16/63, sectors = 80293248, start = 0
When I try turning the DMA on using hdparm -d1 /dev/hda I get:

/dev/hda:
setting using_dma to 1 (on)
HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
using_dma=  0 (off)
I'm using Linux 2.6 and as much as I can see all the DMA options in the
kernel are turned on. Can someone tell me what is the problem?
Thanks,
Yuval Scharf


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You probably didn't compile in the pci bus master dma support for the 
chipset your motherboard has into the kernel.  If you just use generic 
pci bus-master dma support you usually get this problem.

For example, I have an nforce2 chipset, so I compile in "AMD and NVIDIA 
IDE Support".  Check for you chipset under the generic DMA bus-master 
support tree.

Cheers,
Kevin
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Re: [gentoo-user] HELP: Problem in rebooting after running 'emerge -u world'

[Christoph Gysin]

Stephen Liu wrote:

I am not quite familiar with rescue on Gentoo.  I shall do follows;

1) boot up the Gentoo box with the rescue diskette
2) mount /dev/hda3  /mnt/gentoo
3) mount /dev/hda1  /mnt/gentoo/boot
4) mount t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
there's a typo:
mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
  ^
5) chroot /mnt/gentoo  /bin/bash
6) nano -w /mnt/gentoo/etc/fstab (to edit  'fstab')
change ROOT, BOOT and SWAP with the appropriate devices (/dev/hda3, 
/dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 I assume)

One thing I could not resolve why I can login as ROOT without password.  
If key in ROOT password then it says wrong password
This could mean that you've also overwritten your /etc/passwd. Is your 
normal user still in the /etc/passwd? If not, just add it with # useradd 
and reset your root-password with # passwd

I can't imagine how this can happen without the use of etc-update...

bye, christoph

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Jose González Gómez]

   Daniel,

   I think you are wrong here. The new genkernel by default configures 
the kernel with almost everything as a module, so you have both options:

  1. Manually compile the kernel, choose the drivers you need, and edit
 /etc/modules.autoload
  2. Compile the kernel using genkernel (and the default configuration
 it provides), emerge hotplug, and rc-update add hotplug default
   In the first case you will have an optimized kernel only working for 
your machine and your current hardware. In the second case, you'll have 
a kernel that takes a lot to build but than can autoconfigure when 
detecting new hardware.

   So, again Gentoo is all about choices :o)

   Regards
   Jose
Daniel Drake escribió:

Grendel wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Mike Williams commented thusly,


- Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition
and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)?


Not to my knowledge.


I too am a user about to install gentoo, I have been postponing it 
till I
get some good old scottish whisky to put me in the mood, I am kind of 
feeling sentimental about having toi kick mandrake out :)

With regard to this aspect of the question, surely gentoo must handle 
this hardware detection and installation of necessary drivers well? 
The livecd which I booted into recognised all my hardware and loaded 
the ethernet card so I had a network connection working, so the base 
system which we install to the hdd must have some kind of auto 
detection, otherwise do we have to type the alias eth0 rtl8139too 
commands manuall to the /etc/modulesxxx files?


Thats only the livecd.
For your real install, you will need to:
- Compile support for your network card into the kernel
- Add it to modules.autoload if you compiled it as a module
- Configure /etc/conf.d/net for DHCP or static IP.
I don't understand what is meant by the original question 
(scanners/printers). Are you asking if there is an autoconfiguration 
method? If so, not natively as part of gentoo. However, a well 
configured system (even default configurations) will handle the 
addition/removal of devices like this well, e.g.:
- If you use hotplug, it will load the printer module when you plug in 
your printer, and remove it when its disconnected
- If you try and print before the printer is connected, CUPS will 
queue the job and wait until the printer appaers
- You can't scan unless your scanner is plugged in

Or did I misunderstand the question?

Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

[Jose González Gómez]

   Grendel,

   You can do it, but expect a long time compiling your modules :o)

   Regards
   Jose
Grendel escribió:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,

 

Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
   

- I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I
particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally
 

Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting
much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little
bit less comfort.
Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw
and/or it will run just after installation.
   

Actually I wonder why this is the case. I was really impressed by the way 
the livecd detected all of my hardware and autoconfigured it (it even 
detected by nforce2 nvnet driver, so far the only installation to do 
this). 
Surely the same tool(s) can also be installed as part of the base package, 
which can be optionally invoked by the user if necessary and which will 
modify the necesasry files.

Bye,
Grendel


 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Init script problems ...

[Dave]

Dave wrote:

lukas wrote:

On Saturday 07 February 2004 16:30, Dave wrote:



First, on bootup how do I see the init messages ? I checked dmseg,

You normaly can see these messages while your system is coming up.
When you are logged in you can also type "dmesg | less" to see them.


I get ...
cant find module /dev/rtc
cant find module /dev/misc/rtc
Are you shure that devfsd is proper running?
sys-fs/devfsd must be installed. If it isn't, emerge it.
Your kernel must be compiled with "/dev file system support" and if you
don't have it also compiled with the "Automatically mount at boot"
option, you must add "devfs=mount" as a kernel bootparameter to your
grub.conf (respectively lilo.conf).
cu

lukas


I looked in dmesg | less but couldn't find it. I think its generated 
by one of the init scripts so its past the dmesg log. I'll look into 
devfs - never had a system that has run this before  its a 
learning curve.

Thanks for the info

Dave

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Opps ... I'll try and read the e-mail properly next time ! ... so you 
guys get /dev/rtc's as well

Dave

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[gentoo-user] rc-update problems

[Ernie Schroder]

Hi Folks,
A while back, I emerged Welcome2L, which is a neat little logo and 
spec graphic for the console. I've gotten framebuffer working now and 
want to get rid of it but it is in an "UNASSIGNED" runlevel and I 
can't find an option to remove it from all runlevels.

$ rc-status -a
Runlevel: UNASSIGNED
  Welcome2L  [ off ]
  crypto-loop[ off ]
  domainname [ off ]
  esound [ off ]
  fam[ off ]
  inetd  [ off ]
  iptables   [ off ]
  lisa   [ off ]
  local  [ started ]
  named  etc etc etc..


$ sudo /sbin/rc-update del Welcome2L
 * Welcome2L not found in any of the specified runlevels.

I've tried *, -a. --all and UNASSIGNED but still get the same error. 
Any ideas other than deleting the script from /etc/init.d?
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Re: [gentoo-user] DMA

[Scharf Yuval]

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Kevin Hanson wrote:

> Scharf Yuval wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >In a computer with a disk capable of DMA.
> >
> >hdparm -i /dev/hda returns:
> >/dev/hda:
> >
> > Model=Maxtor 6E040L0, FwRev=NAR61590, SerialNo=E13CFB3E
> > Config={ Fixed }
> > RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
> > BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
> > CurCHS=17475/15/63, CurSects=16513875, LBA=yes, LBAsects=80293248
> > IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
> > PIO modes:pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
> > DMA modes:mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
> > UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 udma6
> > AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled
> > Drive conforms to: (null):
> >
> > * signifies the current active mode
> >
> >
> >but hdparm /dev/hda returns:
> >
> >/dev/hda:
> > multcount  =  0 (off)
> > IO_support =  0 (default 16-bit)
> > unmaskirq  =  0 (off)
> > using_dma  =  0 (off)
> > keepsettings =0 (off)
> > readonly   =  0 (off)
> > readahead  = 256 (on)
> > geometry   = 65535/16/63, sectors = 80293248, start = 0
> >
> >
> >When I try turning the DMA on using hdparm -d1 /dev/hda I get:
> >
> >/dev/hda:
> > setting using_dma to 1 (on)
> > HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
> > using_dma  =  0 (off)
> >
> >I'm using Linux 2.6 and as much as I can see all the DMA options in the
> >kernel are turned on. Can someone tell me what is the problem?
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Yuval Scharf
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> You probably didn't compile in the pci bus master dma support for the
> chipset your motherboard has into the kernel.If you just use generic
> pci bus-master dma support you usually get this problem.
>
> For example, I have an nforce2 chipset, so I compile in "AMD and NVIDIA
> IDE Support".Check for you chipset under the generic DMA bus-master
> support tree.
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin
>
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>

Thanks kevin, it worked.
But I still have two problems.

my /etc/conf.d/hdparm file includes the line:
all_args="-d1"

After rebooting my machine dmesg showed the following lines:
hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hda: DMA disabled


hdb had the DMA on and hda had DMA off but I had no problem turning it on
manually.

Do I have a problem in hdb? what should I do about it?

Why didn't hda start with DMA automatically?

Thanks,
Yuval Scharf









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Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla Firefox (ugh, what a silly name) ebuild, anyone?

[romildo]

On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 04:18:50PM +0100, Gard Spreemann wrote:
> I know it's early, but does anybody have an ebuild? :-)

See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40949

Romildo

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[gentoo-user] LVM2 and gentoo installation

[Leonid Podolny]

Hi,
I'm going to perform a fresh installation of gentoo 
on my new box. I'll be using mm-sources-2.6.2 as my system kernel and LVM2 for 
most of my partitions. Does someone have any positive experience with LVM2 on 
gentoo? Is there LiveCD out to support it, i.e. to hold the kernel and tools for 
performing the initial partitioning at the installation process? Any pitfalls I 
should be aware of?
 
Cheers, L.

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird ext2/ext3 mount problems

[Andrey Kartashov]

On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:02:55AM -0800, Michael Peppler wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 19:35, Andrey Kartashov wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 05:11:32PM -0800, Michael Peppler wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I've just installed Gentoo on a new system, and I have some strangeness
> > > in the ext3 mount for my root filesystem:
> > > 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail # mount
> > > /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
> > > none on /tmp/.initrd/dev type devfs (rw)
> > > /dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw,noatime)
> > 
> > I'd double check /etc/fstab. Is it possible that you have listed hda3 there
> > more than once?
> 
> Yep - /dev/hda3 is only listed once. 

That's very odd, in this case I wonder if initrd setup got screwed somehow.
It also seems rather weird that you have /tmp/.initrd/dev mounted after machine
finished booting up.
The easiest thing to try probably is to boot without initrd and see if it
works.  It's simple, just compile support for your root filesystem (and SCSI if
you need it) into kernel , get rid of 'initrd' parameter in
/boot/grub/grub.conf and see if it can boot.


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- Andrey


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  but in practice they are different (Larry McVoy) ~



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