[gentoo-user] EVMS2 Volumes Not Detected on Bootup

2004-02-09 Thread Kent Jantz
I installed a barebones Gentoo with a 2.6 kernel and evms on 10GB of my first
hard drive. I then created the standard boot, swap, and root partitions on my
main(second) hard drive. After that I created my evms volumes(/home, /usr, and
/var partitions) on my main hard drive. I finished intalling Gentoo which
included listing my drives in fstab as /dev/evms/hdx(for the root, boot, and
swap partitions) and /dev/evms/xxxlv(for the /usr, /var, and /home partitions).
I then try to boot up, evms loads ok(right after '* Calculating module
dependencies') but later on in the process when it is '* Mounting local
filesystems' it complains that it can't find my evms volumes and of course the
rest of the bootup is a mess because there are no /usr, /var, and /home
partitions mounted. I saw that there was a new experimental 2.6 LiveCD with
basic evms support, would I have better luck with that? 

Thanks,
Kent

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread Tianran Chen
thanks, is this feature stable now? i had used it back in 2.4.1x age 
(with swsusp 1.x/0.x cannot recall) , but it wasn't very stable yet at 
that time. is it stable enough that i can confidently hibernate even 
while working on some really really important project?

also, now do i still have to use the script from swsusp? or i can simply 
use shutdown -z?

thanks again.


On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, HvR wrote:

> Why not use the hibernate feature of 2.6, then you wont need to reboot
> and between sleeps it uses no battery...

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[gentoo-user] the buildpkg option

2004-02-09 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
Hi,

I've just discovered a directory /usr/portage/packages occupying more 
than 1G of my disk. It seems that this is generated due to the buildpkg 
feature in make.conf, which is on by default. My question is, what do I 
gain from it? It seems like an option that is useful mainly for 
packagers, is it safe to remove it?

Thanks,
Moshe


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Re: [gentoo-user] error

2004-02-09 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 04:18, Robert Morris wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 11:55, Rudmer van Dijk wrote:
> > I get this error when I inject some package:
> >
> > emerge --inject media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.2c
> > !!! BAD COUNTER in 'media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.2c'
> > >>> Injected media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.2c.
> >
> > the package seems to be injected though...
> > I have seen this with other packages, so is this a serious error or not?
> > (using portage 2.0.50)
>
> I've had the same problem, I think I've tracked down the problem.
> See the bug report I posted for the reason and a possible solution.
>
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41062

ok, thanks

Rudmer

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Re: [gentoo-user] HELP: Problem in rebooting after running 'emerge -u world'

2004-02-09 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Christoph,

To my surprize, I can start 'Fail Safe'

Hereinbelow is  /etc/fstab

# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/BOOT/bootext2noauto,noatime1 1
/dev/ROOT/xfsnoatime0 0
/dev/SWAPnoneswapsw0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0/mnt/cdromiso9660noauto,ro0 0
#/dev/fd0/mnt/floppyautonoauto0 0
# NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
none/procprocdefaults0 0

.
none/dev/shmtmpfsdefaults0 0
Compared it with chapter 15 and found following difference
/dev/ROOT/xfsnoatime0 0  (new)
/dev/ROOT / reiserfsnoatime 0 1  (Chapter15 'reiserfs)
(shall I change 'xfs' back to 'reiserfs'
none/dev/shmtmpfsdefaults   0 0

(I think the above line was added during 'emerge -u world'
and
/mnt/cdwriter disappears)
I can login as ROOT without password but can't login as USER (satimis) 
with/without password.

# cat /etc/passwd
root:x:0,0:root:root:/bin/bash
...
...
Operator:x:11:0:operator:/root:/bin/bash
(USER/satimis not found there)

Kindly advise how to revive Gentoo.  What shall I do next.

TIA

B.R.
Stephen


Stephen Liu wrote:

I am not quite familiar with rescue on Gentoo.  I shall do follows;

1) boot up the Gentoo box with the rescue diskette
2) mount /dev/hda3  /mnt/gentoo
3) mount /dev/hda1  /mnt/gentoo/boot
4) mount t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc


there's a typo:
mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
  ^
5) chroot /mnt/gentoo  /bin/bash
6) nano -w /mnt/gentoo/etc/fstab (to edit  'fstab')


change ROOT, BOOT and SWAP with the appropriate devices (/dev/hda3, 
/dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 I assume)

One thing I could not resolve why I can login as ROOT without 
password.  If key in ROOT password then it says wrong password


This could mean that you've also overwritten your /etc/passwd. Is your 
normal user still in the /etc/passwd? If not, just add it with # 
useradd and reset your root-password with # passwd

I can't imagine how this can happen without the use of etc-update...

bye, christoph


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Re: [gentoo-user] Distributed Gentoo Package management?

2004-02-09 Thread Brian
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 15:49, Konstantinos Agouros wrote:
> If not here's how we thought of doing it (comments welcome).
> 
> One machine (the fastest one) keeps /usr/portage. Everybody else mounts this
> read only. Once every night (after the rsync) all machine do an emerge -uDp
> world and send the result to the server. 
> 
> The server has some kind of database knowing the cpu-type and start ebuild-
> packaging the necassary packages for each cpu-type. The packages are put in
> /usr/portage/packages//All
> 
> Each machine has this mounted to /usr/portage/packages/All corresponding to its
> CPU-Type. And can than emerge -u the new packages.
> 
> Machines of a different architecture (ie sun) are handled a little differently.
> 
> The one problem I currently see is determining the order of the emerge -u's or
> could I use more than one tbz2-file at once so that portage determines the
> order.
> 
> Also we will add some kind of flag for packages where it might be better, 
> if human intervention happens before upgrading.


It sounds like you need to check out distcc which can spread out the
compilation among all the machines, doesn't matter if they are different
cpu's.  There is also a new streaming distfiles server that seems quite
promising and could work for you as well called tsp-cache.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=110973&highlight=streaming+file+server

And I would also ALWAYS check and pre-approve all package upgrades
before letting the machines update themselves, especially for a work
environment.  You might check out the new portage features regarding
/etc/portage/package.mask & package.use where you can create your own
masking/unmasking and also individual use flag settings at the package
level.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=121499


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Re: [gentoo-user] First install - Grub hard disk error

2004-02-09 Thread LoneStar
Assuming you're using one of the Genkernel 3.0 beta versions, I've had 
trouble with those also.

There seems to be something in the creation of the initrd that gives errors.
Comment out the initrd line in your grub config and try booting.
Works for me (on three different systems I've built).
Marc Forrest wrote:

Hello,
I have been trying to install gentoo 1.4 on my laptop 'IBM thinkpad' but 
cannot boot from the harddisk. I have followed the instructions in the handbook to the 
letter, the only odd occurance that happened was when using genkernel to compile, I 
recieved this message:
"copying system.map to /boot/system.map-2.4.20-gentoo-r5
mv: cannot stat 'boot/system.map': no such file"
below I have placed the commands I used to setup grub and below this is the fstab and grub files, please help I'm stuck?

grub>root (hd0,0)
grub>setup (hd0)
My fstab file /etc/fstab
/dev/hda1   /boot   ext2noauto,noatime  1 2
/dev/hda2   noneswapsw  0 0
/dev/hda3   /   ext3noatime 0 1
none/proc   procdefaults0 0
none/dev/shmtmpfs   defaults0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0/mnt/cdromauto  noauto,user0 0

My grub file /boot/grub/grub.conf
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux 2.4.20
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda3
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r5
thank you
Marc 

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[gentoo-user] First install - Grub hard disk error

2004-02-09 Thread Marc Forrest
Thank you for that, I booted using the LiveCD and mounted the drives including 
/dev/hda1 to /boot, I then executed genkernel again, this time no error apeared. I 
checked all the settings for grub and ran the grub setup again. The "Grub hard disk 
error" still appears when I reboot.


>The new genkernel doesn't mount /boot automatically. You will have to
>mount it manually yourself.

>mount /dev/hda1 /boot

>or 

>mount /boot

>Then you can rerun genkernel or copy the necessary files to /boot.

>HTH
>Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Grendel
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Manuel McLure commented thusly,

> Grendel wrote:
> > Let me tell you this, the xfree86 has buggy drivers for cards as well. So 
> > does open source software for example even our beloved kernel has a lot of 
> > problems with ACPI, so even free software has its bugs. Tell me the 
> > ide-scsi source code is available has anyone fixed that for 2.6.2? No not 
> > at all. If someone did that it would really help as I can run gtoster and 
> > other old apps which still do not recognise the new ide cdrecord format.
> 
> What's wrong with ide-scsi in 2.6? I've got it running and mounting my 
> IDE CDRW/DVD drive as SCSI...

scsi emulation for IDE devices is not supported that well in kernel 2.6
(there is no one maintainint ide-scsi apparently), sometimes you get
buffer underruns and other nasty things hapenning. Thats why they advice
you not to use scsi emulation for kernel 2.6, but to use the alpha version 
of cdrecord which support direct IDE writing ie:
cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd -data we.iso

So thats why scsi emulation is not reliable in 2.6 kernels.

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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 gentoo windows partition

2004-02-09 Thread Claudinei Matos
OK, I've tried again but I still not work
I've put umask=000 in mount parameters and now the directory is mounted
with full access to any user:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] localhost # ls -ld /mnt/dados
drwxrwxrwx   27 myersroot16384 Dec 31  1969 /mnt/dados

so I've tried even putting the entire path in DocumentRoot since that
when I'm using symlink I get some error:
[Mon Feb 09 20:52:22 2004] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Symbolic link not
allowed: /var/www/localhost/htdocs
and now my apache2.conf is like that:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] localhost # cat /etc/apache2/conf/apache2.conf |grep -i
documentroot
#DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs/
DocumentRoot /mnt/dados/Jobs/Work/cjmatos.no-ip.com/www
So, I also can't view the page and I get another error on to apache log:
[Mon Feb 09 20:54:12 2004] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] client denied by
server configuration: /mnt/dados/Jobs/Work/cjmatos.no-ip.com/www/

Which configuration is this that apache tell me about???

tks in advice

claudinei matos

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 17:20, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Claudinei Matos wrote:
> > That's it...
> > I get a look at the directory and I see that the permissions is just for
> > owner:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] myers $ ls /mnt/dados -ld
> > drwxr--r--   27 root fat 16384 Dec 31  1969 /mnt/dados
> > so in my /etc/fstab I'm using gid in mount options. how can I mount this
> > directory with rwx permissions to group?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a partition which I mount for access by everyone on the system.
> To achieve this, I have appended "umask=000" onto the options in my fstab.
> 
> You should try that first (remember to re-mount). If apache then will serve 
> documents, then perhaps you should tweak the "000" value to something a little 
> more restrictive.
> 
> Daniel.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What doesnt work with 2.6 ?

2004-02-09 Thread Manuel McLure
Bluesman wrote:
The only things that don't work for me with 2.6 are PPTP and lm-sensors.


Took me days to figure out lm-sensors.
Select the options as modules, then mess with the modprobe order. I found out 
that with the right order gkrellm2 is able to read the data from /sys. Been a 
while though and I never really tried to figure out why, but here's my info:

# cat /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6

via686a
eeprom
i2c_isa
Yeah - I finally figured it out - it seems I was loading via686a and 
i2c_viapro at the same time, and that's a no-no on 2.6.

I also resolved PPTP by patching the kernel and using the ~x86 version 
of pppd, so I'm all set. Everything I could do on 2.4 I can now do on 2.6.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Manuel McLure
Grendel wrote:
Let me tell you this, the xfree86 has buggy drivers for cards as well. So 
does open source software for example even our beloved kernel has a lot of 
problems with ACPI, so even free software has its bugs. Tell me the 
ide-scsi source code is available has anyone fixed that for 2.6.2? No not 
at all. If someone did that it would really help as I can run gtoster and 
other old apps which still do not recognise the new ide cdrecord format.
What's wrong with ide-scsi in 2.6? I've got it running and mounting my 
IDE CDRW/DVD drive as SCSI...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Distributed Gentoo Package management?

2004-02-09 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:49:29 +0100
Konstantinos Agouros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Just a few comments.

1) If this were my company, I would not be in such a hurry to do
upgrades.  Except for security problems (do them right away), do the
emerge sync and emerge -p[uU]v frequently on your main machine, evaluate
the results, wait a week or two, check forums and this list, then
upgrade your primary machine, evaluate again, and then and only then
proceed to upgrade the others.

2) Automation, IMO, will eventually lead to disaster, if you expect
everything to work every time.  Play safe.  You really have nothing to
gain at the bleeding edge.  Don't be lulled into thinking that all
packages marked stable are stable in every environment.

3) I've seldom regretted being a few updates behind, but I certainly
remember the pain I experienced before I arrived at this approach.  And
I have only my single desktop system to think about.

HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE failed

2004-02-09 Thread Jared Thirsk
On February 9, 2004 12:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm not sure I remember everything, but I'll try . . .
>
> I tried to update to KDE 3.2 using ~x86.  kdelibs-3.1.4 blocked qt.
> So, unmerged kdelibs-3.1.4 and emerged the new qt.  The install of
> 3.2 failed at some point, so I installed 3.1.5.  Now, kde won't
> start.  The Nvidia splash screen flashes 3 or 4 times, then I'm
> dropped into console.  I checked /etc/X11/Sessions and it has the
> proper items, 3.1.1a and 3.1.5.  No matter which I put in
> /etc/rc.conf, I get the same result.  X works, but kde doesn't. 
> I'm stumped as to where else to look.  Any advice appreciated. 
> Thanks.

Muahaha!  A victim of qt vs kdelibs-3.1.4 blockage.  I was frustrated 
for a while with this. I don't really know where to look or how to 
help you (why does building kde-3.2 fail?) but I can say that I now 
have qt-3.3, kde-3.2, and I unmerged kde-3.1.5, but now it's showing 
up on my emerge -u world -- it wants to install kdelibs-3.1.5 again.

Jared

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Re: [gentoo-user] any problems with gcc 3.3?

2004-02-09 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:29:11 -0800
Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I noticed that gcc 3.3 snuck into stable for x86 a few days ago with
> no fanfare...
> 
> [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r5 [3.2.3-r3] 
> 
> Can I assume that upgrading is painless?  The move from 3.1 to 3.2 was
> pretty bad IIRC due to binary incompatibility or something, but I'd
> like to know if it's safe to upgrade without b0rking my server.
> 

My $.02.  Collins' painless method is what I use:

1) emerge sync every few days
2) emerge -pUv world (I have some ~x86 packages)
3) analyze the packages offered
4) if any of the biggies are there (gcc, glibc, xfree, kde, gnome,
etc.), let them age a couple of weeks and check in forums or here.
5) If you see any favorites, emerge them manually.
6) When well aged, emerge [-u | -U ] world
7) never update world withoyut checking!!!
8) if baselayout is to be updated, backup your /etc first, and do
etc-update very carefully.  It will offer to replace things like fstab,
which is 100% fatal.   I'll never understand why they do this. 
Lots of people have broken their systems this way. 

My experience has been that all too frequently something slips by the
quality control process (not too surprising with all the permutations
and combinations).  Just check the archives for the fallout from the
latest gcc, if you want a reason for going slow!  I'm still sitting on a
gcc and glibc update myself.

Enjoy, YMMV.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kopete and irc problem ?

2004-02-09 Thread Jared Thirsk
On February 9, 2004 18:52, David H. Askew wrote:
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> 'lo all
>
> anyone using kopete 0.8.0 and having trouble connecting to irc ..
> its as if I can connect, but I timeout almost immediately ?
>
> ...just curious if anyone is seeing this
>
> .. this is while trying to connect to various freenode servers

I asked about this on kde-forums.org and got the answer I was looking 
for.  Apparently, they set the timeout to establish a connection to 
15000ms, which just doesn't cut it.  

I unzipped /usr/portage/distfiles/kdenetwork-3.2.0*, and followed 
Twiggy794's advice, and then manually recompiled and installed just 
kopete:

> Yyyyeah ~ I had this problem. You're going to have to build Kopete 
> from source (grab the KDENetwork source package off of KDE's 
> website, since the Kopete website doesn't have .8final posted yet). 
> Go into the directory kopete/protocols/irc/libkirc and open up 
> kirc.cpp. Line number 363 will have a value in it (probably 15000). 
> Change the 15 to a 60. This is the setting for a timeout, which is 
> by default set at 15 seconds. You want it set to 60.
>  
>  Hope that helps.


It would be nice if this was made into a patch and submitted to the 
gentoo ebuild but I've never done that before (I would guess there's 
some docs on gentoo.org saying how easy it is and how much of a hero 
I would be to do so.)

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[gentoo-user] Re: What doesnt work with 2.6 ?

2004-02-09 Thread Bluesman
>>The only things that don't work for me with 2.6 are PPTP and lm-sensors.

Took me days to figure out lm-sensors.
Select the options as modules, then mess with the modprobe order. I found out 
that with the right order gkrellm2 is able to read the data from /sys. Been a 
while though and I never really tried to figure out why, but here's my info:

# cat /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6

via686a
eeprom
i2c_isa

Hope it helps...

Best regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] libwww-5.4.0-r[12] compile fails

2004-02-09 Thread Andrey Kartashov
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:31:54PM -0600, Harlan wrote:

[skpd]
> > > >../src/.libs/libwwwinit.so -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -L/usr/lib
[skpd]

Your build process seems to be picking up mysql stuff from /usr/local/... as opposed to
/usr/lib/..., I wonder if that's what's screwing you up here.
On my system mysql client lib is located in /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.
AFAIK /usr/ is the default place for system stuff and /usr/local is for 'I did it 
myself'
stuff.
It is possible that you have more than one mysql version installed, one in /usr/local 
and
one in /usr.

Here is where ebuild put mysql for me:

$ which mysql
/usr/bin/mysql

$ ldd `which mysql`
libreadline.so.4 => /lib/libreadline.so.4 (0x40021000)
libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x40051000)
libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.2/libstdc++.so.5 
(0x4009f000)
libmysqlclient.so.12 => /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.12 (0x40155000)
libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40199000)
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x401aa000)
libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x401d7000)
libssl.so.0.9.7 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 (0x401ec000)
libcrypto.so.0.9.7 => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 (0x4021e000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4032c000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.2/libgcc_s.so.1 
(0x4034f000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40358000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4048a000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)



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Re: [gentoo-user] First install - Grub hard disk error

2004-02-09 Thread Mike
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 01:21:19PM +1000, Marc Forrest wrote:
> Hello,
>   I have been trying to install gentoo 1.4 on my laptop 'IBM thinkpad' but 
> cannot boot from the harddisk. I have followed the instructions in the handbook to 
> the letter, the only odd occurance that happened was when using genkernel to 
> compile, I recieved this message:
> 
> "copying system.map to /boot/system.map-2.4.20-gentoo-r5
> mv: cannot stat 'boot/system.map': no such file"
> 
> below I have placed the commands I used to setup grub and below this is the fstab 
> and grub files, please help I'm stuck?
> 
> grub>root (hd0,0)
> grub>setup (hd0)
> 
> 
> My fstab file /etc/fstab
> /dev/hda1   /boot ext2noauto,noatime  1 2
> /dev/hda2   none  swapsw  0 0
> /dev/hda3   / ext3noatime 0 1
> 
> none  /proc   procdefaults0 0
> none  /dev/shmtmpfs   defaults0 0
> 
> /dev/cdroms/cdrom0/mnt/cdromauto  noauto,user0 0
> 
> 
> My grub file /boot/grub/grub.conf
> default 0
> timeout 30
> splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> title=Gentoo Linux 2.4.20
> root (hd0,0)
> kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda3
> initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r5
> 
The new genkernel doesn't mount /boot automatically. You will have to
mount it manually yourself.

mount /dev/hda1 /boot

or 

mount /boot

Then you can rerun genkernel or copy the necessary files to /boot.

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] error

2004-02-09 Thread Robert Morris
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 11:55, Rudmer van Dijk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I get this error when I inject some package:
> 
> emerge --inject media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.2c
> !!! BAD COUNTER in 'media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.2c'
> >>> Injected media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.2c.
> 
> the package seems to be injected though...
> I have seen this with other packages, so is this a serious error or not? 
> (using portage 2.0.50)
> 
> BTW. I run linux-2.6.x and that includes alsa, is there a way to let portage 
> know that alsa-driver is not needed??
> 
>   Rudmer


I've had the same problem, I think I've tracked down the problem.
See the bug report I posted for the reason and a possible solution.


> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41062


Not sure about the 2.6 problem though since I'm still on 2.4


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[gentoo-user] First install - Grub hard disk error

2004-02-09 Thread Marc Forrest
Hello,
I have been trying to install gentoo 1.4 on my laptop 'IBM thinkpad' but 
cannot boot from the harddisk. I have followed the instructions in the handbook to the 
letter, the only odd occurance that happened was when using genkernel to compile, I 
recieved this message:

"copying system.map to /boot/system.map-2.4.20-gentoo-r5
mv: cannot stat 'boot/system.map': no such file"

below I have placed the commands I used to setup grub and below this is the fstab and 
grub files, please help I'm stuck?

grub>root (hd0,0)
grub>setup (hd0)


My fstab file /etc/fstab
/dev/hda1   /boot   ext2noauto,noatime  1 2
/dev/hda2   noneswapsw  0 0
/dev/hda3   /   ext3noatime 0 1

none/proc   procdefaults0 0
none/dev/shmtmpfs   defaults0 0

/dev/cdroms/cdrom0/mnt/cdromauto  noauto,user0 0


My grub file /boot/grub/grub.conf
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux 2.4.20
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda3
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r5

thank you
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Re: [gentoo-user] missing libstdc++.so.5

2004-02-09 Thread Brendan Sullivan
thanks for the reply...glad that worked..that's what i used to do when i
ran redhat and compiled and installed most stuff myself...i'm still
getting used to gentoo's methods of installing programs...however,
people suggested other methods (Which may help you someday down the
line...)

run 'ldconfig' ...works wonders =0]

Brendan

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> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=133497&highlight=libstdc
> 
> I had the problem. Updated my search mechanism with updatedb and searched for 
> the missing components. I found them in an open office subdirectory and 
> copied two files to /usr/lib
> 
> Everything started working.
> 
> Then, just for good measure, I re-emerged gcc and I had earlier some reason to 
> re-emerge xfree86.
> 
> After that, all was ok.
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Re: [gentoo-user] missing libstdc++.so.5

2004-02-09 Thread Phil Barnett
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On Monday 09 February 2004 9:20 am, Andrej Moravcik wrote:

> Don't panic, it looks many people ecountered this problem. Look at this
> thread in gentoo forum:
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=133497&highlight=libstdc

I had the problem. Updated my search mechanism with updatedb and searched for 
the missing components. I found them in an open office subdirectory and 
copied two files to /usr/lib

Everything started working.

Then, just for good measure, I re-emerged gcc and I had earlier some reason to 
re-emerge xfree86.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail delete mails fails

2004-02-09 Thread Clay Culver
On Monday 09 February 2004 06:08 pm, Christian Bartl wrote:
> I'm not sure if that's the right place for my question, but I could not
> find the desired information on KDE website.
You should try the KMail development list, I'm sure there's one out there.

> When I delete a Mail from a mbox with KMail (1.6, KDE 3.2.0) the mail is
> not really deleted from the mbox but only from the index-files
> generated by KMail (.inbox*). Also compacting the mailbox doesn't help.
You should also provide more information.  I don't know if you use IMAP or 
POP3.  If you are using IMAP then just move the file to the "Local 
Folders->Trash" folder.  (Then you can right click on Trash, and tell it to 
empty.)

I'm not certain about POP3, as I don't use it with KMail.  Try the above 
method.  If that doesn't work, AND you can't get a "right-click->delete" to 
work, then you should probably ask on the KMail list.

Clay

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[gentoo-user] kopete and irc problem ?

2004-02-09 Thread David H. Askew
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'lo all

anyone using kopete 0.8.0 and having trouble connecting to irc .. its as if I 
can connect, but I timeout almost immediately ?

...just curious if anyone is seeing this 

.. this is while trying to connect to various freenode servers

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Re: [gentoo-user] libwww-5.4.0-r[12] compile fails

2004-02-09 Thread Harlan
On Monday 09 February 2004 07:13 pm, Harlan wrote:
> On Monday 09 February 2004 10:01 am, Arne Vogel wrote:
> > Harlan wrote:
> > >gcc -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -Wall -o .libs/libapp_1 libapp_1.o
> > >../src/.libs/libwwwinit.so -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -L/usr/lib
> > >../src/.libs/libwwwapp.so ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwxml.so
> > >../../modules/expat/xmlparse/.libs/libxmlparse.so
> > >../../modules/expat/xmltok/.libs/libxmltok.so ../src/.libs/libwwwhtml.so
> > >../src/.libs/libwwwtelnet.so ../src/.libs/libwwwnews.so
> > >../src/.libs/libwwwhttp.so ../src/.libs/libwwwmime.so
> > >../src/.libs/libwwwgopher.so ../src/.libs/libwwwftp.so
> > >../src/.libs/libwwwdir.so ../src/.libs/libwwwcache.so
> > >../src/.libs/libwwwstream.so ../src/.libs/libwwwfile.so
> > >../src/.libs/libwwwmux.so ../src/.libs/libwwwtrans.so
> > >../src/.libs/libwwwcore.so ../src/.libs/libwwwutils.so
> > >../../Library/src/SSL/.libs/libwwwssl.so
> > > ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwzip.so
> > > ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwsql.so ../../modules/md5/.libs/libmd5.so
> > > -ldl
> > > /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so -lz -lcrypt -lnsl -lm -lssl
> > > -lcrypto -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib/mysql
> > >../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwsql.so: undefined reference to
> > > `mysql_connect' ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwsql.so: undefined
> > > reference to `mysql_create_db' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > >make[3]: *** [libapp_1] Error 1
> > >make[3]: Leaving directory
> > >`/var/tmp/portage/libwww-5.4.0-r2/work/w3c-libwww-5.4.0/Library/Examples
> > >' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > >make[2]: Leaving directory
> > >`/var/tmp/portage/libwww-5.4.0-r2/work/w3c-libwww-5.4.0/Library'
> > >make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > >make[1]: Leaving directory
> > >`/var/tmp/portage/libwww-5.4.0-r2/work/w3c-libwww-5.4.0'
> > >make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> > >
> > >!!! ERROR: net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r2 failed.
> > >!!! Function src_compile, Line 53, Exitcode 2
> > >!!! (no error message)
> >
> > Maybe try doing an "emerge mysql" first?
> >
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> Well, it was a good idea.  I already had a previous version of mysql
> installed; I upgraded to the latest version.  I still had the same failure.
> I compiling a version 3 mysql db right now to see if that works; I would
> REALLY hate to downgrade the database just to get php working.
>
> I'll let you know if the older version works...

The older version failed also.

Any other suggestions on how I can get PHP installed on my computer???

Thanks again,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetching mail

2004-02-09 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 04:02:48PM -0500, Ric Messier wrote:

> >Looks like Pine will grab my mail from the pop3 server without any other
> >software like fetchmail or exim? I should have looked into that a long
> >time ago.. thanks.
> 
> Yep. Didn't used to be that way. In fact, it even allows you to pull
> mail with a different username from the one you are logged in with on
> the current server. Details are at:
> 
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/config.html

Excellent, a couple things I can't figure out.. I can fetch mail from
the server with my pop username but how do I send mail with my username?
I have the domain set fine but it always uses my login name@ instead of
my email username.

I've looked through the faq about filtering msgs from a list into a
different folder but don't see any examples and can't figure out what
they mean. Can you give me an example?


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Re: [gentoo-user] libwww-5.4.0-r[12] compile fails

2004-02-09 Thread Harlan
On Monday 09 February 2004 10:01 am, Arne Vogel wrote:
> Harlan wrote:
> >gcc -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -Wall -o .libs/libapp_1 libapp_1.o
> >../src/.libs/libwwwinit.so -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -L/usr/lib
> >../src/.libs/libwwwapp.so ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwxml.so
> >../../modules/expat/xmlparse/.libs/libxmlparse.so
> >../../modules/expat/xmltok/.libs/libxmltok.so ../src/.libs/libwwwhtml.so
> >../src/.libs/libwwwtelnet.so ../src/.libs/libwwwnews.so
> >../src/.libs/libwwwhttp.so ../src/.libs/libwwwmime.so
> >../src/.libs/libwwwgopher.so ../src/.libs/libwwwftp.so
> >../src/.libs/libwwwdir.so ../src/.libs/libwwwcache.so
> >../src/.libs/libwwwstream.so ../src/.libs/libwwwfile.so
> >../src/.libs/libwwwmux.so ../src/.libs/libwwwtrans.so
> >../src/.libs/libwwwcore.so ../src/.libs/libwwwutils.so
> >../../Library/src/SSL/.libs/libwwwssl.so
> > ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwzip.so ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwsql.so
> > ../../modules/md5/.libs/libmd5.so -ldl
> > /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so -lz -lcrypt -lnsl -lm -lssl
> > -lcrypto -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib/mysql
> >../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwsql.so: undefined reference to
> > `mysql_connect' ../../Library/src/.libs/libwwwsql.so: undefined reference
> > to `mysql_create_db' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> >make[3]: *** [libapp_1] Error 1
> >make[3]: Leaving directory
> >`/var/tmp/portage/libwww-5.4.0-r2/work/w3c-libwww-5.4.0/Library/Examples'
> >make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> >make[2]: Leaving directory
> >`/var/tmp/portage/libwww-5.4.0-r2/work/w3c-libwww-5.4.0/Library'
> >make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> >make[1]: Leaving directory
> >`/var/tmp/portage/libwww-5.4.0-r2/work/w3c-libwww-5.4.0'
> >make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> >
> >!!! ERROR: net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r2 failed.
> >!!! Function src_compile, Line 53, Exitcode 2
> >!!! (no error message)
>
> Maybe try doing an "emerge mysql" first?
>
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Well, it was a good idea.  I already had a previous version of mysql 
installed; I upgraded to the latest version.  I still had the same failure.  
I compiling a version 3 mysql db right now to see if that works; I would 
REALLY hate to downgrade the database just to get php working.

I'll let you know if the older version works...

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsasound hotplug 2.6.2 load a lot modules

2004-02-09 Thread Claudinei Matos
well, I've a look again and I found that I've got a mistake, since
I put hotplug and aumix like init default, aumix got to start before
hotplug so the modules aren't yet loaded.
now I used to put hotplug in init boot and aumix in init default and
that work's fine.

claudinei matos

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 22:28, Jakub Krajcovic wrote: 
> Oh my god, you compiled ALL of the alsa sound modules??? Because from
> your lsmod output it looks like it...
> 
> a _normal_ lsmod should look like this:
> $ lsmod
> snd_emu10k196260  1 
> snd_rawmidi25504  1 snd_emu10k1
> snd_seq_device  8520  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
> snd_ac97_codec 53956  1 snd_emu10k1
> snd_util_mem4672  1 snd_emu10k1
> snd_hwdep   9796  1 snd_emu10k1
> snd_pcm_oss53540  0 
> snd_pcm99656  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm_oss
> snd_page_alloc 11844  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
> snd_timer  26116  1 snd_pcm
> snd_mixer_oss  19456  2 snd_pcm_oss
> snd52708  10
> snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_
> hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
> 
> I think that this is pretty basic alsa stuff, somebody warn me if i have
> something excessive in here...
> 
> A have a soundblaster live card (hence the module snd-emu10k1), and
> have oss-emulation enabled (modules snd_mixer_oss, snd_pcm_oss)
> 
> Concerning the aumix question: aumix is a _oss only_ mixer - meaning
> that you either need to use oss drivers if you want aumix, or load the
> snd-pcm-oss and and-mixer-oss modules (that is alsa oss emulation). But
> a better solution is to compile alsa-utils and use alsamixer :-)
> 
> And I _do_ recommend you recompile alsa (kernel), and disable all of the
> modules that are not your soundcard...
> 
> 
> On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:15:07 -0200
> Claudinei Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi everybody
> > 
> > I have a gentoo instalation with kernel 2.6.2 and ens1370 soundboard.
> > My kernel have alsa compiled like modules so I've installed hotplug to
> > detect necessary modules at boot.
> > Well all works fine and the sound works fine too, but when I've
> > installed aumix and put that to load at boot with "rc-update add aumix
> > default" always when a boot I get a message that /dev/mixer doesn't
> > exist and aumix don't load my default volume levels.
> > OK, I put alsasound to load at boot too with "rc-update add alsasound
> > boot" and that work's, but now I have a lot of modules loaded by alsa
> > like you can see below. 
> > I just want that my soundcard module be loaded automatically in boot
> > by alsa or hotplug without have to edit /etc/modules.d/alsa and I
> > don't want to get a lot of modules unecessary loaded.
> > #lsmod
> > snd_seq_midi6688  0
> > snd_ali545120868  0
> > snd_als400010500  0
> > snd_sb_common  13824  1 snd_als4000
> > snd_azt332817544  0
> > snd_cmipci 32280  0
> > snd_cs4281 18624  0
> > snd_cs46xx 80900  0
> > snd_emu10k190500  0
> > snd_ens137016516  1
> > snd_ak4531_codec7040  1 snd_ens1370
> > snd_ens137121764  0
> > snd_ice171254564  0
> > snd_cs8427  8320  1 snd_ice1712
> > snd_i2c 4992  2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427
> > snd_ice172428964  0
> > snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx  3200  2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724
> > snd_ak4xxx_adda 5504  3
> > snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
> > snd_intel8x0   28740  0
> > snd_nm256  66820  0
> > snd_rme96  24708  0
> > snd_trident41476  0
> > snd_util_mem3456  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_trident
> > snd_via82xx21952  0
> > snd_ymfpci 56128  0
> > snd_ac97_codec 52868  12
> > snd_ali5451,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1371,snd_ice1712
> > ,snd_ice1724,snd_intel8x0,snd_nm256,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci
> > snd_opl3_lib9472  5
> > snd_als4000,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_cs4281,snd_ymfpci snd_hwdep
> >   7680  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_opl3_lib
> > gameport3840  6
> > snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_ens1370,snd_ens1371,snd_trident,snd_ymfpci
> > snd_mpu401_uart 6400  9
> > snd_als4000,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_intel8
> > x0,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci snd_rawmidi20992  7
> > snd_seq_midi,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_ens137
> > 1,snd_mpu401_uart snd_pcm_oss49284  0
> > snd_pcm88064  18
> > snd_ali5451,snd_als4000,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,
> > snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_ens1371,snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_intel
> > 8x0,snd_nm256,snd_rme96,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci,snd_pcm_oss
> > snd_page_alloc  9348  8
> > snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_intel8x0,snd_trident,snd_via82
> > xx,snd_ymfpc

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Grendel
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Spider commented thusly,


> Why is the kernel-driver larger than the binary image of my kernel? 

I dunno, you have the much valued source for the kernel driver so please 
figure this out yourself and help us by trimmimg the unncessary slack if 
it is so easy. 

Let me tell you this, the xfree86 has buggy drivers for cards as well. So 
does open source software for example even our beloved kernel has a lot of 
problems with ACPI, so even free software has its bugs. Tell me the 
ide-scsi source code is available has anyone fixed that for 2.6.2? No not 
at all. If someone did that it would really help as I can run gtoster and 
other old apps which still do not recognise the new ide cdrecord format.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Really stupid emerge question....

2004-02-09 Thread Christoph Gysin
Thomas Kirchner wrote:
On Monday, February 9, 2004 7:33 pm, Thomas Kirchner wrote:

emerge -p --prune kde
Please also read man emerge about --prune before using.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetch Restriction

2004-02-09 Thread Anthony Hoppe
Ah..that sucks.  Oh well.

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 16:50, Spider wrote:
> begin  quote
> On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:43:45 -0800
> Anthony Hoppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible to turn off fetch restriction on some or all files?  If
> > yes, how?  
> 
> No.
> 
> > 
> > I'm sure there is a logical reason for fetch restrictionwhat is
> > it? 
> Licensing usually.  We might not have the right to mirror something, or
> you (user) have to agree to a license to get the software.
> 
> 
> //Spider


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetch Restriction

2004-02-09 Thread Anthony Hoppe
lol...hmm...maybe it makes no sense.  Now for somebody to share how to
disable it...plleeaaassseee? (if possible) :-D

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 16:49, Andrew Farmer wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:43:45 -0800, Anthony Hoppe muttered:
> > Is it possible to turn off fetch restriction on some or all files?  If
> > yes, how?  
> > 
> > I'm sure there is a logical reason for fetch restrictionwhat is it? 
> > lol
> 
> Legal nonsense. For example, I'm pretty sure the fetch restriction on the
> JDK docs is because Sun wants you to agree to their TOS and license before
> you use the files.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetch Restriction

2004-02-09 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:43:45 -0800
Anthony Hoppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is it possible to turn off fetch restriction on some or all files?  If
> yes, how?  

No.

> 
> I'm sure there is a logical reason for fetch restrictionwhat is
> it? 
Licensing usually.  We might not have the right to mirror something, or
you (user) have to agree to a license to get the software.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetch Restriction

2004-02-09 Thread Andrew Farmer
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:43:45 -0800, Anthony Hoppe muttered:
> Is it possible to turn off fetch restriction on some or all files?  If
> yes, how?  
> 
> I'm sure there is a logical reason for fetch restrictionwhat is it? 
> lol

Legal nonsense. For example, I'm pretty sure the fetch restriction on the
JDK docs is because Sun wants you to agree to their TOS and license before
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

2004-02-09 Thread Grendel
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Jakub Krajcovic commented thusly,

> >From the outputs mplayer gives after compilation, the only usable X
> output is X11, that doesn't support fullscreen. Trust me on this one
> _none_ of the X outputs even come close to VESA performance (in this
> specific issue)


I beleive you, but the strange thing is that VESA is not a hardware
accelerated API, I am talking about vesa versions upto VBE 2.0 I dont know
if the situation has improved. Vesa merely exists to enable programs to
acess the cards memory in a easy standards way, it also has a lot of other
handy functions as well, like energy saving. 


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[gentoo-user] Fetch Restriction

2004-02-09 Thread Anthony Hoppe
Is it possible to turn off fetch restriction on some or all files?  If
yes, how?  

I'm sure there is a logical reason for fetch restrictionwhat is it? 
lol

~ Anthony


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Re: [gentoo-user] Really stupid emerge question....

2004-02-09 Thread Thomas Kirchner
On Monday, February 9, 2004 7:33 pm, Thomas Kirchner wrote:
> emerge -p --prune kde
I forgot to mention, you might need to prune each individual kde package.  
This command should do that:
grep kde /var/cache/edb/world | sed '{s/.*\///}' | xargs emerge -p --prune
removing -p of course to finish.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

2004-02-09 Thread Jakub Krajcovic
>From the outputs mplayer gives after compilation, the only usable X
output is X11, that doesn't support fullscreen. Trust me on this one
_none_ of the X outputs even come close to VESA performance (in this
specific issue)

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:25:07 +0600 (LKT)
Grendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Surely the X driver will be allways faster than vesa? If it supports
> some kind of 2d accelration even (most old cards do) this will be
> ALLWAYS faster than writing to VESA which is not hardware accelerated
> IIRC. VBE 2.0 had some improvements but I still dont beleive that
> there was any 2d hardware acceleration involved in the specs.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Really stupid emerge question....

2004-02-09 Thread Thomas Kirchner
On Monday, February 9, 2004 7:04 pm, Timothy Grant wrote:
> Over the weekend I emerged KDE 3.2.
>
> Now I would like to unmerge KDE 3.1.5

I do this by:
emerge -p --prune kde
It protects 3.2 while removing 3.1.5.  I'm sad to say it took a while for me 
to figure that out, too. :p
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Grendel
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Gard Spreemann commented thusly,

> If I were going to invest in any graphics card for use with gaming in Linux, I 
> would definately get a GeForce FX5600 Ultra or a 5900. Yes - they are 


Wasnt the 5600 the one with which had the infamous tinnitus inducing
aeroplane like sounding fan for the card? One o the 5000 series had this 
fan and it is better avoided using it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] alsasound hotplug 2.6.2 load a lot modules

2004-02-09 Thread Jakub Krajcovic
Oh my god, you compiled ALL of the alsa sound modules??? Because from
your lsmod output it looks like it...

a _normal_ lsmod should look like this:
$ lsmod
snd_emu10k196260  1 
snd_rawmidi25504  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_seq_device  8520  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec 53956  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_util_mem4672  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep   9796  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm_oss53540  0 
snd_pcm99656  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc 11844  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_timer  26116  1 snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss  19456  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd52708  10
snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_
hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss

I think that this is pretty basic alsa stuff, somebody warn me if i have
something excessive in here...

A have a soundblaster live card (hence the module snd-emu10k1), and
have oss-emulation enabled (modules snd_mixer_oss, snd_pcm_oss)

Concerning the aumix question: aumix is a _oss only_ mixer - meaning
that you either need to use oss drivers if you want aumix, or load the
snd-pcm-oss and and-mixer-oss modules (that is alsa oss emulation). But
a better solution is to compile alsa-utils and use alsamixer :-)

And I _do_ recommend you recompile alsa (kernel), and disable all of the
modules that are not your soundcard...


On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:15:07 -0200
Claudinei Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi everybody
> 
> I have a gentoo instalation with kernel 2.6.2 and ens1370 soundboard.
> My kernel have alsa compiled like modules so I've installed hotplug to
> detect necessary modules at boot.
> Well all works fine and the sound works fine too, but when I've
> installed aumix and put that to load at boot with "rc-update add aumix
> default" always when a boot I get a message that /dev/mixer doesn't
> exist and aumix don't load my default volume levels.
> OK, I put alsasound to load at boot too with "rc-update add alsasound
> boot" and that work's, but now I have a lot of modules loaded by alsa
> like you can see below. 
> I just want that my soundcard module be loaded automatically in boot
> by alsa or hotplug without have to edit /etc/modules.d/alsa and I
> don't want to get a lot of modules unecessary loaded.
> #lsmod
> snd_seq_midi6688  0
> snd_ali545120868  0
> snd_als400010500  0
> snd_sb_common  13824  1 snd_als4000
> snd_azt332817544  0
> snd_cmipci 32280  0
> snd_cs4281 18624  0
> snd_cs46xx 80900  0
> snd_emu10k190500  0
> snd_ens137016516  1
> snd_ak4531_codec7040  1 snd_ens1370
> snd_ens137121764  0
> snd_ice171254564  0
> snd_cs8427  8320  1 snd_ice1712
> snd_i2c 4992  2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427
> snd_ice172428964  0
> snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx  3200  2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724
> snd_ak4xxx_adda 5504  3
> snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
> snd_intel8x0   28740  0
> snd_nm256  66820  0
> snd_rme96  24708  0
> snd_trident41476  0
> snd_util_mem3456  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_trident
> snd_via82xx21952  0
> snd_ymfpci 56128  0
> snd_ac97_codec 52868  12
> snd_ali5451,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1371,snd_ice1712
> ,snd_ice1724,snd_intel8x0,snd_nm256,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci
> snd_opl3_lib9472  5
> snd_als4000,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_cs4281,snd_ymfpci snd_hwdep
>   7680  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_opl3_lib
> gameport3840  6
> snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_ens1370,snd_ens1371,snd_trident,snd_ymfpci
> snd_mpu401_uart 6400  9
> snd_als4000,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_intel8
> x0,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci snd_rawmidi20992  7
> snd_seq_midi,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_ens137
> 1,snd_mpu401_uart snd_pcm_oss49284  0
> snd_pcm88064  18
> snd_ali5451,snd_als4000,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,
> snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_ens1371,snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_intel
> 8x0,snd_nm256,snd_rme96,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci,snd_pcm_oss
> snd_page_alloc  9348  8
> snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_intel8x0,snd_trident,snd_via82
> xx,snd_ymfpci,snd_pcm snd_mixer_oss  17280  2 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_seq_oss32640  0
> snd_seq_midi_event  6528  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss
> snd_seq52592  5
> snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
> snd_timer  21888  3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_pcm,snd_seq
> snd_seq_device  6660  7
> snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1,snd_trident,snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
> _oss,snd_seq snd44932  37
> snd_seq_midi,snd_ali5451,snd_als4000,snd_sb_common,snd_azt3328,snd_cm
> ipci,snd_cs4281,sn

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 and nvidia 5336

2004-02-09 Thread Grendel
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Jakub Krajcovic commented thusly,

> I don't know what's the problem with using framebuffer??? I think that
> the framebuffer is a great idea. Why bother with X all the time, when
> sometimes you don;t even need to start it, and you can do all you need
> in the console, even _graphically_ browse the net (yes, links it is).

One thing I dont like about the frame buffer is that the modes have a 
horrible refresh rate, some are at 60hz which makes them unusable for long 
term perposes. There must be a way of increasing  this but I never 
bothered to find out as I can do this as the X driver automatically 
figures out the highest refresh rated.
 
> An one more thing for the framebuffer: try watching divx/xvid/etc movies
> in fullscreen on a pII 266, ati mach 64 4mb and 96 mb ram in X and see
> how far you go. And thanks to the vesa framebuffer (but mplayer mostly
> :-)), an old piece of junk is a great mobile multimedia station...

Surely the X driver will be allways faster than vesa? If it supports some 
kind of 2d accelration even (most old cards do) this will be ALLWAYS 
faster than writing to VESA which is not hardware accelerated IIRC. VBE 
2.0 had some improvements but I still dont beleive that there was any 2d 
hardware acceleration involved in the specs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Really stupid emerge question....

2004-02-09 Thread Christoph Gysin
Timothy Grant wrote:
Over the weekend I emerged KDE 3.2.

Now I would like to unmerge KDE 3.1.5

For some reason none of the things I've tried has worked.

How do I unmerge the virtual KDE3.1.5?
man emerge

--- snipp ---
clean (-c)
Cleans  the  system  by  removing packages that will not effect the 
functionality of the system.  The arguments can be ebuilds,
classes,  or  dependencies.   For  example,  emerge  clean  binutils 
cleans  out  old  versions  of  binutils;  emerge   clean
net-www/mozilla-0.9.9-r2 cleans out that specific version of Mozilla. 
This is generally safe to use.  Note that clean does not
remove unslotted packages.
--- snipp ---

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[gentoo-user] What do I do with package.env files?

2004-02-09 Thread Eric Livingston
I notice when I emerge many packages, especially java-related packages (e.g.
ant), that among the files installed is a file called package.env

The file contains additional information for the CLASSPATH env variable, so
it seems it should somehow make it into /etc/env.d, but never does. I've
tried ignoring them, but then of course relevant programs don't run. So, I
now go through and manually copy the package.env files over into
/etc/env.d/java and rename them.

This all seems way too manual and I would have thought that emerge would
take care of this. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread HvR




Why not use the hibernate feature of 2.6, then you wont need to reboot and between sleeps it uses no battery...

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 14:00, Jerry McBride wrote:

On Monday 09 February 2004 02:44 pm, Tianran Chen wrote:
> hi all,
>
> i am using a laptop, so i reboot very frequently. i have been tried to
> make the booting process faster for a long time. right now, i had done
> following reduction on my system:
>
> 1) NO X at all (use emacs and links in framebuffer).
> 2) no modules at all, everything in kernel.
> 3) no network, cron.
>
> with these reductions i lower the booting time to 19s with kernel 2.4.22.
> however, with kernel 2.6.1 now it took more than 25s to boot, partially
> due to hotplug and alsa.
>
> is there anything i can do to make it even faster? 10s will be my goal.
> thanks for any idea!
>

I've done similar things and also did the following... 

I dumped devfs and hotplug. I turned off all the daemons that start stuff at 
boot time that I really don't need started at boot time like ntd, 
consolefonts, samba, pcmcia, etc It'll boot a bit faster that way, but 
you won't make any great gains as sooner or later you'll be starting them up 
anyway





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2004-02-09 Thread Timothy Grant
Over the weekend I emerged KDE 3.2.

Now I would like to unmerge KDE 3.1.5

For some reason none of the things I've tried has worked.

How do I unmerge the virtual KDE3.1.5?

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update not working?

2004-02-09 Thread Andrey Kartashov
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 09:27:36PM +0100, Gerhard W. Gruber wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:40:30 -0500, Andrey Kartashov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >Vmware can be tricky sometimes. Are you sure it _can_ start? I.e. you may need to
> >recompile vmware drivers for your kernel if the ones they provide don't match.
> 
> It starts, after I manually executed /et/init.dvmware start.
> 
> I now added it to the X runlevel as well. I checked the other entries and they
> all are listed multiple times for each runlevel they should run in. It's a bit
> confusing this "default" name, because it sounds as if this will be executed
> in the runtime that happens to be the default one while in truth it is just a
> single runlevel. Actaully thinking about this, this is what should be expected
> anyway, but still I consider this "default" name quite missleading.

I'm curious now, what do you mean by 'X runlevel'?
Here is what I've got:

$ls /etc/runlevels/
boot/  default/  nonetwork/

$rc-update show
 apache2 |  default   
bootmisc | boot   
  bootsplash |
 checkfs | boot   
   checkroot | boot   
   clock | boot   
 consolefont | boot   
 crypto-loop |
   cupsd |  default   
ddclient |  default   
 dnsmasq |  default   
  domainname |
  esound |
 gpm |

[... the list is much longer but I truncated it ...]


It also seems like this comment in /etc/inittab

-
# Used by /etc/init.d/xdm to control DM startup.
# Read the comments in /etc/init.d/xdm for more
# info. Do NOT remove, as this will start nothing
# extra at boot if /etc/init.d/xdm is not added
# to the "default" runlevel.
x:a:once:/etc/X11/startDM.sh
-

indicates that there is no special X runlevel, just the fact of adding xdm into mix
makes your maching boot into X, but all the scripts still live in 'default' runlevel.
So, from this point of view, the name 'default' makes sense.

You've mentioned 'entries listed multiple times', could you clarify? What command
did you run to generate that output?


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi,

On Monday 09 February 2004 22:20, Brendan Sullivan wrote:

>
> I've used nvidia's drivers with 2.4 and 2.6 kernels with very little
> problems at all...is this the exception rather than the norm???

no, but the one with the problems are whining around, while the satisfied 
users are quiet. I am one with most times no problems. I have some, since  I 
switched from my 4 mx 440 to my fx 5200. But it could be a problem of the 
cards bios.

A lot of nvidia-probs are selfmade. Some are definitly nvidias fault. Some 
not.
At least, they are looking for programmers:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=6e1324d1de5ffc7510506ced25a691df&threadid=23778

So you can not say, they do not care

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[gentoo-user] Mailman and Postfix bounce one domain on one list

2004-02-09 Thread Tom Caudron
I'm having some small trouble with my Mailman list management setup that
I was hoping someone could shed some light on.

Summary of the problem:
---
I think Mailman has decided that it's running on the digitalelite.com
domain, even though it is not.  Mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
coming from the list is getting stopped because Postfix thinks it should
be a local user and throws an error 550 as a result (because these are
not local users).  The mail gets into the list archive, and it goes out
to members that are not using digitalelite.com addresses.  Two things. 
The lists are digitalelite.com addresses (which is where the domain name
is coming from) and this issue only occurs on new lists.  The first two
lists I created seem to work just fine.  The new one I created after I
thought everything worked has this issue, leading me to believe its an
issue with Mailman rather than Postfix (my MTA of choice).

Details of the problem:
---
I have a domain (digitalelite.com) and that domain's mx is hosted by
another company (1and1.com).

I set up my home server (which is is no way associated with
digitalelite.com) as the mailing list server for digitalelite.com.  That
home server machine name is called Mordor.MiddleEarth.

I've set up Postfix to not accept any mail from anywhere but itself (the
external port 25 is blocked by my firewall and I've set inet_interfaces
= localhost in /etc/postfix/main.cf).

I created new lists with /usr/local/mailman/bin/newlist and I've created
an /etc/fetchmailrc that grabs each list address and points it to the
new lists.

When setting things up and trying to get it all working, I created two
lists (list1 and list2 we'll call them).  Those lists work just fine in
all respects.  However, once I thought I had everything working I tried
to add another list (we'll call it list3).  Only for list3 do I get this
problem.

The problem, as described above in the summary, is that it has decided
that its domain is digitalelite.com, even though it is not.  Mail
addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], just for this one list, coming from the
list is getting stopped because Postfix thinks it should be a local user
and throws an error 550 as a result (because these are not local
users).  The mail gets into the archive for list2, and it goes out to
members that are not using digitalelite.com addresses.

If it were a problem with the mydestination variable in main.cf wouldn't
that affect all lists?  Maybe not.  What could cause this behavior to
only affect some lists and not others?.  I've been staring at these
config files so long now that they are started to jumble up in my brain.

I have googled til I can't google no more and still I can't find an
answer there and I'm desperate.  :-)

I can share any config info needed.

Anyone that can shed light on this list behavior will be profusely
thanked (sure my thanks are worthless, but they're all I've got )!

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Re: [gentoo-user] any problems with gcc 3.3?

2004-02-09 Thread Harald Arnesen
Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I noticed that gcc 3.3 snuck into stable for x86 a few days ago with no
> fanfare...
>
> [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r5 [3.2.3-r3] 
>
> Can I assume that upgrading is painless?  The move from 3.1 to 3.2 was
> pretty bad IIRC due to binary incompatibility or something, but I'd like
> to know if it's safe to upgrade without b0rking my server.

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[gentoo-user] Distributed Gentoo Package management?

2004-02-09 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
Hi,

since RedHat's change of heart, we are thinking, of bringing the whole company
to gentoo.

In order to keep packages up to date and the whole thing mostly automatic we
were wondering if there already is a projet.

If not here's how we thought of doing it (comments welcome).

One machine (the fastest one) keeps /usr/portage. Everybody else mounts this
read only. Once every night (after the rsync) all machine do an emerge -uDp
world and send the result to the server. 

The server has some kind of database knowing the cpu-type and start ebuild-
packaging the necassary packages for each cpu-type. The packages are put in
/usr/portage/packages//All

Each machine has this mounted to /usr/portage/packages/All corresponding to its
CPU-Type. And can than emerge -u the new packages.

Machines of a different architecture (ie sun) are handled a little differently.

The one problem I currently see is determining the order of the emerge -u's or
could I use more than one tbz2-file at once so that portage determines the
order.

Also we will add some kind of flag for packages where it might be better, 
if human intervention happens before upgrading.

These are our thoughts on this.

Cheers,

Konstantin

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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree update

2004-02-09 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 09:30, Chuck Mize wrote:
> But I haven't been using Gentoo long enough to know how messy it is to
> update packages like xfree and gnome after I've finally gotten them
> working the way I want them.

Minor upgrade (ie Gnome 2.4.0 to 2.4.1) should be seamless. I did just
that last night, and after about 10-15 hours of compiling, it's all
good.

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Re: [gentoo-user] any problems with gcc 3.3?

2004-02-09 Thread Alan
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:33:03PM +, Mike Williams wrote:
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> On Monday 09 February 2004 23:29, Alan wrote:
> > I noticed that gcc 3.3 snuck into stable for x86 a few days ago with no
> > fanfare...
> >
> > [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r5 [3.2.3-r3]
> >
> > Can I assume that upgrading is painless?  The move from 3.1 to 3.2 was
> > pretty bad IIRC due to binary incompatibility or something, but I'd like
> > to know if it's safe to upgrade without b0rking my server.
> 
> If you do get any bad behaviour, run ldconfig.
> All fine here.

Good to hear, thanks!
I just get kinda nervous sometimes with "big" upgrades like this :)

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] any problems with gcc 3.3?

2004-02-09 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:29:11 -0800
Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I noticed that gcc 3.3 snuck into stable for x86 a few days ago with
> no
> fanfare...
> 
> [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r5 [3.2.3-r3] 
> 
> Can I assume that upgrading is painless?  The move from 3.1 to 3.2 was
> pretty bad IIRC due to binary incompatibility or something, but I'd
> like to know if it's safe to upgrade without b0rking my server.
> 

Binary compability is fine I've found, However there are issues when
libstdc++.so.5 is removed in the mid-install, the new package is copied
over perfectly, but the subsequent spawning of env-update fails because
libstdc++.so.5 is gone until env-update is run  (oops)

solution is to run ldconfig on the system if env-update fails.  I -HOPE-
this is getting dealt with by the responsible persons...  *cough*

(and, this only seems to be the case on -some- installs, which is
annoying in the extreme)

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Re: [gentoo-user] any problems with gcc 3.3?

2004-02-09 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 09 February 2004 23:29, Alan wrote:
> I noticed that gcc 3.3 snuck into stable for x86 a few days ago with no
> fanfare...
>
> [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r5 [3.2.3-r3]
>
> Can I assume that upgrading is painless?  The move from 3.1 to 3.2 was
> pretty bad IIRC due to binary incompatibility or something, but I'd like
> to know if it's safe to upgrade without b0rking my server.

If you do get any bad behaviour, run ldconfig.
All fine here.

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[gentoo-user] any problems with gcc 3.3?

2004-02-09 Thread Alan
I noticed that gcc 3.3 snuck into stable for x86 a few days ago with no
fanfare...

[ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r5 [3.2.3-r3] 

Can I assume that upgrading is painless?  The move from 3.1 to 3.2 was
pretty bad IIRC due to binary incompatibility or something, but I'd like
to know if it's safe to upgrade without b0rking my server.

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 23:10:09 +0100
Michael Schreckenbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 


> You're text terminals get corrupted due to a bug in the driver. If you
> stop  using framebuffer or add

Too bad, I want my TV out. "oops".  And I said "text" not "framebuffer"
. Back to go.

> Maybe a bug that should be reported?  
Done, no feedback. Gave up.

same goes along in the lower part of said email. See , you think it
works for you, when developers have to hack around nvidia specific
headaches (not using certain hardware scalers and so on) because the
drivers don't get fixed.

So, no. I'm not happy with the so called "excellent" nvidia drivers, and
the drivers poor 2D performance we shouldn't even -talk- about.  (oh, I
care about 2D. And quality there. "oops" )

So no, no points to nvidia from my behalf.

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[gentoo-user] alsasound hotplug 2.6.2 load a lot modules

2004-02-09 Thread Claudinei Matos
Hi everybody

I have a gentoo instalation with kernel 2.6.2 and ens1370 soundboard.
My kernel have alsa compiled like modules so I've installed hotplug to
detect necessary modules at boot.
Well all works fine and the sound works fine too, but when I've
installed aumix and put that to load at boot with "rc-update add aumix
default" always when a boot I get a message that /dev/mixer doesn't
exist and aumix don't load my default volume levels.
OK, I put alsasound to load at boot too with "rc-update add alsasound
boot" and that work's, but now I have a lot of modules loaded by alsa
like you can see below. 
I just want that my soundcard module be loaded automatically in boot by
alsa or hotplug without have to edit /etc/modules.d/alsa and I don't
want to get a lot of modules unecessary loaded.
#lsmod
snd_seq_midi6688  0
snd_ali545120868  0
snd_als400010500  0
snd_sb_common  13824  1 snd_als4000
snd_azt332817544  0
snd_cmipci 32280  0
snd_cs4281 18624  0
snd_cs46xx 80900  0
snd_emu10k190500  0
snd_ens137016516  1
snd_ak4531_codec7040  1 snd_ens1370
snd_ens137121764  0
snd_ice171254564  0
snd_cs8427  8320  1 snd_ice1712
snd_i2c 4992  2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427
snd_ice172428964  0
snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx  3200  2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724
snd_ak4xxx_adda 5504  3
snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
snd_intel8x0   28740  0
snd_nm256  66820  0
snd_rme96  24708  0
snd_trident41476  0
snd_util_mem3456  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_trident
snd_via82xx21952  0
snd_ymfpci 56128  0
snd_ac97_codec 52868  12
snd_ali5451,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1371,snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_intel8x0,snd_nm256,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci
snd_opl3_lib9472  5
snd_als4000,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_cs4281,snd_ymfpci
snd_hwdep   7680  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_opl3_lib
gameport3840  6
snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_ens1370,snd_ens1371,snd_trident,snd_ymfpci
snd_mpu401_uart 6400  9
snd_als4000,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_intel8x0,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci
snd_rawmidi20992  7
snd_seq_midi,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_ens1371,snd_mpu401_uart
snd_pcm_oss49284  0
snd_pcm88064  18
snd_ali5451,snd_als4000,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_ens1371,snd_ice1712,snd_ice1724,snd_intel8x0,snd_nm256,snd_rme96,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc  9348  8
snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_intel8x0,snd_trident,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss  17280  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_oss32640  0
snd_seq_midi_event  6528  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss
snd_seq52592  5
snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer  21888  3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  6660  7
snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1,snd_trident,snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd44932  37
snd_seq_midi,snd_ali5451,snd_als4000,snd_sb_common,snd_azt3328,snd_cmipci,snd_cs4281,snd_cs46xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ens1370,snd_ak4531_codec,snd_ens1371,snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427,snd_i2c,snd_ice1724,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_intel8x0,snd_nm256,snd_rme96,snd_trident,snd_util_mem,snd_via82xx,snd_ymfpci,snd_ac97_codec,snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device


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[gentoo-user] KMail delete mails fails

2004-02-09 Thread Christian Bartl
Hello Gentoo Users,

I'm not sure if that's the right place for my question, but I could not 
find the desired information on KDE website.

When I delete a Mail from a mbox with KMail (1.6, KDE 3.2.0) the mail is 
not really deleted from the mbox but only from the index-files 
generated by KMail (.inbox*). Also compacting the mailbox doesn't help.

Any ideas?
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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 gentoo windows partition

2004-02-09 Thread Claudinei Matos
OK, I've tried again but I still not work
I've put umask=000 in mount parameters and now the directory is mounted
with full access to any user:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] localhost # ls -ld /mnt/dados
drwxrwxrwx   27 myersroot16384 Dec 31  1969 /mnt/dados

so I've tried even putting the entire path in DocumentRoot since that
when I'm using symlink I get some error:
[Mon Feb 09 20:52:22 2004] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Symbolic link not
allowed: /var/www/localhost/htdocs
and now my apache2.conf is like that:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] localhost # cat /etc/apache2/conf/apache2.conf |grep -i
documentroot
#DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs/
DocumentRoot /mnt/dados/Jobs/Work/cjmatos.no-ip.com/www
So, I also can't view the page and I get another error on to apache log:
[Mon Feb 09 20:54:12 2004] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] client denied by
server configuration: /mnt/dados/Jobs/Work/cjmatos.no-ip.com/www/

Which configuration is this that apache tell me about???

tks in advice

claudinei matos

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 17:20, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Claudinei Matos wrote:
> > That's it...
> > I get a look at the directory and I see that the permissions is just for
> > owner:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] myers $ ls /mnt/dados -ld
> > drwxr--r--   27 root fat 16384 Dec 31  1969 /mnt/dados
> > so in my /etc/fstab I'm using gid in mount options. how can I mount this
> > directory with rwx permissions to group?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a partition which I mount for access by everyone on the system.
> To achieve this, I have appended "umask=000" onto the options in my fstab.
> 
> You should try that first (remember to re-mount). If apache then will serve 
> documents, then perhaps you should tweak the "000" value to something a little 
> more restrictive.
> 
> Daniel.
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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree update

2004-02-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 14:30:56 -0800 Chuck Mize <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I noticed there is an update to xfree:
| 
| [ebuild U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r4 [4.3.0-r3]
| 
| But I haven't been using Gentoo long enough to know how messy it is to
| update packages like xfree and gnome after I've finally gotten them
| working the way I want them. Should this be a painless upgrade or
| should I hold off?

Don't hold off, it's a security fix.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 23:10:09 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Bugs? You as a developer of gentoo should know, that there is no
| bugfree software out there. Why should this be any other with
| nvidia-drivers? Report them, and maybe they get fixed.

Yeah right. nVidia have consistently failed to fix reported bugs. Given
the source and the relevant documentation, I can pretty much guarantee
that we could fix these in short order. However, nVidia are doing a
Microsoft here -- being at the mercy of a single vendor with such a poor
track record is not a sane solution.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread Azhdeen
> On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 21:03, Tianran Chen wrote:
> I have noticed that ext3 partitions mount considerably quicker than
> reiserfs ones of the same size...
you can also change the order the things start.
for example, start xdm earlier, that way, the rest of your startup stuff
finishes loading while you logon.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree update

2004-02-09 Thread Jose González Gómez
   I think it should be a painless upgrade (for me, they're almost 
always painless) as long as you don't forget to run etc-update after 
updating and before rebooting. Anyway, take a look at the changelog to 
see if it's worth emerging the new version.

   Regards
   Jose
Chuck Mize escribió:

I noticed there is an update to xfree:

[ebuild U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r4 [4.3.0-r3]

But I haven't been using Gentoo long enough to know how messy it is to
update packages like xfree and gnome after I've finally gotten them
working the way I want them. Should this be a painless upgrade or should
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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree update

2004-02-09 Thread Brendan Sullivan
should be painless...just when you do an 'etc-update'...dont overwrite
your XFree86Config file (i have learned this by experience) ;)

Brendan

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 16:30, Chuck Mize wrote:
> I noticed there is an update to xfree:
> 
> [ebuild U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r4 [4.3.0-r3]
> 
> But I haven't been using Gentoo long enough to know how messy it is to
> update packages like xfree and gnome after I've finally gotten them
> working the way I want them. Should this be a painless upgrade or should
> I hold off?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what happened to supermount?

2004-02-09 Thread Claudinei Matos
Well,

I've read this mail so I can catch the way to put supermount to work on
my kernel 2.6.2 .I've did that:
#cd /usr/src/linux
#wget
http://cesnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/supermount-ng/supermount-2.0.4-2.6.2.patch.gz
try others looking at http://supermount-ng.sourceforge.net/
#gunzip supermount-2.0.4-2.6.2.patch.gz
#patch -p1 < supermount-2.0.4-2.6.2.patch
#make oldconfig
and replyng "Y" to the follow question:
Supermount removable media support (SUPERMOUNT) [N/m/y/?] (NEW) y
so just compile kernel and boot.
#make && make modules_install
and put these lines to fstab:
none /mnt/dvd  supermount fs=auto,dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom0,--,users 0 0
none /mnt/cdrw supermount fs=auto,dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom1,--,users 0 0

Claudinei Matos


On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 07:26, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> * Moshe Kaminsky (2004-02-09 07:00 +0100)
> > With kernel 2.4 I had the following line in /etc/fstab:
> > 
> > none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
> > dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=utf8,umask=0 0 0
> > 
> > which caused the cdrom (and similarly for the floppy) to be mounted 
> > automatically when accessed. It seems that kernel 2.6 no longer supports this.
> 
> Aah, Kernel 2.4. That kernel 2.4. In fact the unpatched vanilla never
> did support supermount.
> 
> > Is there a replacement?
> 
> Yes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep supermount /usr/src/linux-2.6.2-gentoo/.config
> CONFIG_SUPERMOUNT=y
> # CONFIG_SUPERMOUNT_DEBUG is not set
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Re: [gentoo-user] telnet setup

2004-02-09 Thread lukas
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On Monday 09 February 2004 21:44, David Obwaller wrote:

> I emerged netkit-telnetd along with xinetd and added xinetd to the
> default runlevel. in /etc/xinetd.d/telnetd I changed diabled = yes to
> = no, so telnet's enabled with xinetd. now, when I access my telnetd
> using telnet 127.0.0.1 I can login normally, without any problems,
> but when I try to log in from a remote computer on my local network
> it says 'connection refused by foreign host'. ssh works over lan, but
> as I said I need telnet to control my computer remotely.

How are you connected to the internet?
Are you using a router or a firewall(script) or something else?

cu

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[gentoo-user] xfree update

2004-02-09 Thread Chuck Mize
I noticed there is an update to xfree:

[ebuild U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r4 [4.3.0-r3]

But I haven't been using Gentoo long enough to know how messy it is to
update packages like xfree and gnome after I've finally gotten them
working the way I want them. Should this be a painless upgrade or should
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Brendan Sullivan
ahwas not aware of that...further enlightenment ;)

On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 15:28, Spider wrote:
> begin  quote
> On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:20:17 -0600
> Brendan Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > nvidia drivers have worked with X since I started using linux.
> 
> No, xserver != XFree86.  Same origins, different beast. (And, oops. the
> drivers would work if they'd been Open Source.  )
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] DMA

2004-02-09 Thread Calvin Walton
> After rebooting my machine dmesg showed the following lines:
> hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
more of same...
> hda: DMA disabled
>
>
> hdb had the DMA on and hda had DMA off but I had no problem turning it on
> manually.
>
> Do I have a problem in hdb? what should I do about it?
>
> Why didn't hda start with DMA automatically?
>
> Thanks,
> Yuval Scharf

Try enabling the option "Use multi-mode by default", found in:
Device Drivers
->Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk/cdrom/tape/floppy support
  ->Include IDE/ATA-2 DISK support

or IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y in the config file.

As the kernel help reads:
> Use multi-mode by default (IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE)
> 
> If you get this error, try to say Y here:
> 
> hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hda: set_multmode: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 22:06 schrieb Spider:
> begin  quote
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:35:43 +0100
> Michael Schreckenbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
> > > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > | Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just
> > > | flaming? I
> > > | am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux.
> > >
> > > Please tell me where to find these good drivers. It'd be nice to get
> > > an
> > > ebuild made for them.
> >
> > Or what unsolveable problems are you experiencing?
> > Maybe I can   help, all works for me (console, X on monitor, X on TV).
> > Btw: if you want to have real problems regarding X, try enabling dri
> > on a  sis630 based laptop ;-)

> Why is the kernel-driver larger than the binary image of my kernel?  Why
> does it corrupt all my -text- terminals once loaded? Why does it lock
> the machine hard if I start multiple X servers?

I don't know, why the kernel module is that big. Why should I? I'am using this 
thing, not developing it. I do have enough space for a 2,3MB module on my 
harddisc also, so this is no problem for me. The more ram the kernel might 
use is no problem for me, as I use kde anyway :-)
You're text terminals get corrupted due to a bug in the driver. If you stop 
using framebuffer or add
Option   "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "TV"
to your XF86Config things should be ok. At least this works here.
My X server does not lock hard, when started multiple times. I do this 
regularly, cause this is how I use my TV out. Maybe a bug that should be 
reported?

> Why doesn't it unload prettily?
> Why is the RENDER extention broken? (visible in nautilus
> mouse selection code fex. )

Bugs? You as a developer of gentoo should know, that there is no bugfree 
software out there. Why should this be any other with nvidia-drivers? Report 
them, and maybe they get fixed. As a developer of OpenGL apps, I need the 3D 
features of my grafics board. The opensource nv driver has no 3D support at 
all. The opensource Ati driver is under heavy construction and has lots of 
bugs (search dri-devel mailinglist archive for radeon). nvidia and their 
binary driver is my only choice so far. And they work perfect for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 09 February 2004 02:44 pm, Tianran Chen wrote:
> hi all,
>
> i am using a laptop, so i reboot very frequently. i have been tried to
> make the booting process faster for a long time. right now, i had done
> following reduction on my system:
>
> 1) NO X at all (use emacs and links in framebuffer).
> 2) no modules at all, everything in kernel.
> 3) no network, cron.
>
> with these reductions i lower the booting time to 19s with kernel 2.4.22.
> however, with kernel 2.6.1 now it took more than 25s to boot, partially
> due to hotplug and alsa.
>
> is there anything i can do to make it even faster? 10s will be my goal.
> thanks for any idea!
>

I've done similar things and also did the following... 

I dumped devfs and hotplug. I turned off all the daemons that start stuff at 
boot time that I really don't need started at boot time like ntd, 
consolefonts, samba, pcmcia, etc It'll boot a bit faster that way, but 
you won't make any great gains as sooner or later you'll be starting them up 
anyway


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 09 February 2004 02:55 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:44:03 -0500 (EST) Tianran Chen
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | is there anything i can do to make it even faster? 10s will be my
> | goal. thanks for any idea!
>
> *** WARNING: UNSUPPORTED HACK BELOW ***
> Edit /etc/conf.d/rc and screw around with some of the settings. In
> particular, RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP will probably be a benefit on laptops
> (lots of CPU and terrible I/O). You may also gain from (ab)using the
> tmpfs settings (again, sucky I/O).
>
> These settings are quite possibly broken.
> *** END HACK ***
>
> Also, aim for a nice small kernel without modules. Cut out all the junk
> you don't use, look at the embedded options and maybe consider some of
> the patches from the -tiny tree.

been there...done that...bought the T-shirt. The fact is... all of that 
stuff has little or no impact on boot performance. Sooner or later you'll 
want to use those resources that you eliminated during bootup and end up 
waiting for them to startup anyways...

If would could just eliminate the caching non-sense that gentoo insists on 
doing, each and every boot up... then we'd have accomplished something.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 09 February 2004 03:32 pm, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Edit /etc/conf.d/rc and screw around with some of the settings. In
> > particular, RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP will probably be a benefit on laptops
> > (lots of CPU and terrible I/O).
>
>   I tried that last year on my GENTOO/Linux laptop and noticed no effect.
>
>   BTW: Does anyone know how far Seth's SystemServices (replace init with
>   Python scripts) project has progressed?


Use python for boot scripts? Sounds neat but I bet it would be as slow or 
slower than what we have now...


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread Jerry McBride

Nope. That's one of "those features" that I'd like to see dissappear also...

On Monday 09 February 2004 04:03 pm, Tianran Chen wrote:
> i notice that every time it startup, the dependency of services are scaned
> and checked, which take about 2~3 seconds. i wonder is this a step that
> can be cut off? also, is /etc/init.d/modules neccesary?
>
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:44:03 -0500 (EST) Tianran Chen
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | is there anything i can do to make it even faster? 10s will be my
> > | goal. thanks for any idea!
> >
> > *** WARNING: UNSUPPORTED HACK BELOW ***
> > Edit /etc/conf.d/rc and screw around with some of the settings. In
> > particular, RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP will probably be a benefit on laptops
> > (lots of CPU and terrible I/O). You may also gain from (ab)using the
> > tmpfs settings (again, sucky I/O).
> >
> > These settings are quite possibly broken.
> > *** END HACK ***
> >
> > Also, aim for a nice small kernel without modules. Cut out all the junk
> > you don't use, look at the embedded options and maybe consider some of
> > the patches from the -tiny tree.
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 gentoo windows partition

2004-02-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Claudinei Matos wrote:
That's it...
I get a look at the directory and I see that the permissions is just for
owner:
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so in my /etc/fstab I'm using gid in mount options. how can I mount this
directory with rwx permissions to group?
Hi,

I have a partition which I mount for access by everyone on the system.
To achieve this, I have appended "umask=000" onto the options in my fstab.
You should try that first (remember to re-mount). If apache then will serve 
documents, then perhaps you should tweak the "000" value to something a little 
more restrictive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DMA

2004-02-09 Thread Itamar Ravid
> hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> hda: DMA disabled

Please try enabling 'Use multi-mode by default' in the ATA section
in menuconfig.

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Re: [gentoo-user] python libstdc++.so.5 broken

2004-02-09 Thread Luis Morales
just made:

ldconfig -v

and try again,

LM

Brendan Sullivan wrote:

Hey everyone, I just updated world and included in that was gcc 3.2.3.
Now whenever I try to emerge or etc-update, it says that python can not
find libstdc++.so.5. I did a locate and found that file, but i'm not
exactly sure where python is looking for it. Can someone please
enlighten me?
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Re: [gentoo-user] python libstdc++.so.5 broken

2004-02-09 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:24:04 -0600
Brendan Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey everyone, I just updated world and included in that was gcc 3.2.3.
> Now whenever I try to emerge or etc-update, it says that python can
> not
> find libstdc++.so.5. I did a locate and found that file, but i'm not
> exactly sure where python is looking for it. Can someone please
> enlighten me?
> 

run "ldconfig" 

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:20:17 -0600
Brendan Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> nvidia drivers have worked with X since I started using linux.

No, xserver != XFree86.  Same origins, different beast. (And, oops. the
drivers would work if they'd been Open Source.  )

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[gentoo-user] python libstdc++.so.5 broken

2004-02-09 Thread Brendan Sullivan
Hey everyone, I just updated world and included in that was gcc 3.2.3.
Now whenever I try to emerge or etc-update, it says that python can not
find libstdc++.so.5. I did a locate and found that file, but i'm not
exactly sure where python is looking for it. Can someone please
enlighten me?

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread Tom Wesley
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 21:03, Tianran Chen wrote:
> i notice that every time it startup, the dependency of services are scaned 
> and checked, which take about 2~3 seconds. i wonder is this a step that 
> can be cut off? also, is /etc/init.d/modules neccesary?
> 
> 
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:44:03 -0500 (EST) Tianran Chen
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > | is there anything i can do to make it even faster? 10s will be my
> > | goal. thanks for any idea!
> > 
> > *** WARNING: UNSUPPORTED HACK BELOW ***
> > Edit /etc/conf.d/rc and screw around with some of the settings. In
> > particular, RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP will probably be a benefit on laptops
> > (lots of CPU and terrible I/O). You may also gain from (ab)using the
> > tmpfs settings (again, sucky I/O).
> > 
> > These settings are quite possibly broken.
> > *** END HACK ***
> > 
> > Also, aim for a nice small kernel without modules. Cut out all the junk
> > you don't use, look at the embedded options and maybe consider some of
> > the patches from the -tiny tree.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Ciaran McCreesh
> > Mail:ciaranm at gentoo.org
> > Web: http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm
> > 
> > 

I have noticed that ext3 partitions mount considerably quicker than
reiserfs ones of the same size...

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Brendan Sullivan
nvidia drivers have worked with X since I started using linux about a
bit over a year ago. Sure they're not perfect, but i haven't had any
problems i haven't been able to find the solutions to and fix myself,
and i'm not at all a linux guru. I use gentoo for daily email, chatting,
web browsing, and play games such as quake3, UT2003, and RTCW. Other
than the fact that my computer's specs aren't very good, i have no
performance issues.

I've used nvidia's drivers with 2.4 and 2.6 kernels with very little
problems at all...is this the exception rather than the norm???


On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 15:07, Spider wrote:
> begin  quote
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:35:43 +0100
> Michael Schreckenbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
> > > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > | Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just
> > > | flaming? I
> > > | am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux.
> > >
> > > Please tell me where to find these good drivers. It'd be nice to get
> > > an
> > > ebuild made for them.
> > 
> 
> > Or what unsolveable problems are you experiencing?
> 
> 
> Oh, right. forgot to ask.
> 
> Why doesn't it work with xserver at all?
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread Tianran Chen
i notice that every time it startup, the dependency of services are scaned 
and checked, which take about 2~3 seconds. i wonder is this a step that 
can be cut off? also, is /etc/init.d/modules neccesary?


On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:44:03 -0500 (EST) Tianran Chen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> | is there anything i can do to make it even faster? 10s will be my
> | goal. thanks for any idea!
> 
> *** WARNING: UNSUPPORTED HACK BELOW ***
> Edit /etc/conf.d/rc and screw around with some of the settings. In
> particular, RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP will probably be a benefit on laptops
> (lots of CPU and terrible I/O). You may also gain from (ab)using the
> tmpfs settings (again, sucky I/O).
> 
> These settings are quite possibly broken.
> *** END HACK ***
> 
> Also, aim for a nice small kernel without modules. Cut out all the junk
> you don't use, look at the embedded options and maybe consider some of
> the patches from the -tiny tree.
> 
> -- 
> Ciaran McCreesh
> Mail:ciaranm at gentoo.org
> Web: http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm
> 
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:35:43 +0100
Michael Schreckenbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
> > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just
> > | flaming? I
> > | am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux.
> >
> > Please tell me where to find these good drivers. It'd be nice to get
> > an
> > ebuild made for them.
> 

> Or what unsolveable problems are you experiencing?


Oh, right. forgot to ask.

Why doesn't it work with xserver at all?



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:35:43 +0100
Michael Schreckenbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
> > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just
> > | flaming? I
> > | am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux.
> >
> > Please tell me where to find these good drivers. It'd be nice to get
> > an
> > ebuild made for them.
>

> Or what unsolveable problems are you experiencing?
> Maybe I can   help, all works for me (console, X on monitor, X on TV).
> Btw: if you want to have real problems regarding X, try enabling dri
> on a  sis630 based laptop ;-)

Why is the kernel-driver larger than the binary image of my kernel?  Why
does it corrupt all my -text- terminals once loaded? Why does it lock
the machine hard if I start multiple X servers?  Why doesn't it unload
prettily?   Why is the RENDER extention broken? (visible in nautilus
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Re: [gentoo-user] telnet setup

2004-02-09 Thread David Obwaller
* Ric Messier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02/ 9/04]:
> Not sure why they would allow telnet and not ssh. However, since I
> assume they are accomplishing this with port blocking, you can get
> around it by getting ssh to listen on the telnet port. Or, if you are
> using a cable modem/firewall, you can do a port forward. :-)
> 
> Ric

I'll try this, thanks a lot. And I really have to say that I don't have
the slightest idea why one should block ssh...

David


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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

2004-02-09 Thread Arne Vogel
Alexandre Aractingi wrote:

Le lun 09/02/2004 à 16:36, Marius Mauch a écrit :
 

No on binary. If you don't know yet, portage is a source-centered
package manager.
   

Sorry, I read about that right after I posted this mail :-)
 

For some large packages, e.g. Openoffice.org, there are binary builds in 
the Portage tree though
(in this example openoffice-bin). You can also compile binaries yourself 
(e.g. emerge -B whatever),
but they will be configured for your system specifically (compiler 
options, USE flags etc.).

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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 gentoo windows partition

2004-02-09 Thread Claudinei Matos
That's it...
I get a look at the directory and I see that the permissions is just for
owner:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] myers $ ls /mnt/dados -ld
drwxr--r--   27 root fat 16384 Dec 31  1969 /mnt/dados
so in my /etc/fstab I'm using gid in mount options. how can I mount this
directory with rwx permissions to group?


On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 15:44, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Claudinei Matos wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> > 
> > Well, I've tried to use a windows partition in DocumentRoot of my
> > apache2.conf like the line below:
> > DocumentRoot /mnt/dados/Jobs/Work/cjmatos.no-ip.com/www
> > But when I try to view the page in the browser I get this error:
> > "Forbidden
> > You don't have permission to access / on this server.
> > Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use
> > an ErrorDocument to handle the request."
> 
> Check the permissions of your mount. Sounds like the user that apache is 
> running as (typically 'apache' or 'nobody', both of which have very restricted 
> system access) is unable to access that mountpoint.
> 
> You may also want to look at error_log in apaches section of /var/log
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetching mail

2004-02-09 Thread Ric Messier
Alan Ianson wrote:
>
>Looks like Pine will grab my mail from the pop3 server without any other
>software like fetchmail or exim? I should have looked into that a long
>time ago.. thanks.
>

Yep. Didn't used to be that way. In fact, it even allows you to pull mail with a 
different username from the one you are logged in with on the current server. Details 
are at:

http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/config.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetching mail

2004-02-09 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 03:50:02PM -0500, Ric Messier wrote:
> Alan Ianson wrote:
> >
> >I would like to get pine working to send/fetch mail, can anyone give me
> >pointers on what I need to emerge once gentoo is up and running? TIA.
> >
> 
> In what way are you extracting mail? POP3? IMAP? 

POP3.

> Pine is easy to configure for either. Google'ing has always refreshed
> my memory when it slips. I believe setting the inbox path to
> wubble.server.com/inbox will do pop3 and wubble.server.com:143 does
> imap. You have to go into Configure to get to these.

Looks like Pine will grab my mail from the pop3 server without any other
software like fetchmail or exim? I should have looked into that a long
time ago.. thanks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] telnet setup

2004-02-09 Thread Ric Messier
Not sure why they would allow telnet and not ssh. However, since I assume they are 
accomplishing this with port blocking, you can get around it by getting ssh to listen 
on the telnet port. Or, if you are using a cable modem/firewall, you can do a port 
forward. :-)

Ric



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Date:  Mon, 9 Feb 2004 21:44:09 +0100

>hi,
>
>my isp disables me in using ssh, so I'm forced to use telnet to remotely
>access my computer. I'll try to change this, but for now I want to set
>up telnet.
>
>I emerged netkit-telnetd along with xinetd and added xinetd to the
>default runlevel. in /etc/xinetd.d/telnetd I changed diabled = yes to =
>no, so telnet's enabled with xinetd. now, when I access my telnetd using
>telnet 127.0.0.1 I can login normally, without any problems, but when I
>try to log in from a remote computer on my local network it says
>'connection refused by foreign host'. ssh works over lan, but as I said
>I need telnet to control my computer remotely.
>
>am I missing something??
>
>thanks in advance for any hints,
>David
>
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[gentoo-user] telnet setup

2004-02-09 Thread David Obwaller
hi,

my isp disables me in using ssh, so I'm forced to use telnet to remotely
access my computer. I'll try to change this, but for now I want to set
up telnet.

I emerged netkit-telnetd along with xinetd and added xinetd to the
default runlevel. in /etc/xinetd.d/telnetd I changed diabled = yes to =
no, so telnet's enabled with xinetd. now, when I access my telnetd using
telnet 127.0.0.1 I can login normally, without any problems, but when I
try to log in from a remote computer on my local network it says
'connection refused by foreign host'. ssh works over lan, but as I said
I need telnet to control my computer remotely.

am I missing something??

thanks in advance for any hints,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetching mail

2004-02-09 Thread Ric Messier
Alan Ianson wrote:
>
>I would like to get pine working to send/fetch mail, can anyone give me
>pointers on what I need to emerge once gentoo is up and running? TIA.
>

In what way are you extracting mail? POP3? IMAP? Pine is easy to configure for either. 
Google'ing has always refreshed my memory when it slips. I believe setting the inbox 
path to wubble.server.com/inbox will do pop3 and wubble.server.com:143 does imap. You 
have to go into Configure to get to these.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE failed

2004-02-09 Thread Kevin Hanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Feb 9, 2004, at 3:20 PM, Kevin Hanson wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not sure I remember everything, but I'll try . . .

I tried to update to KDE 3.2 using ~x86.  kdelibs-3.1.4 blocked qt.  
So, unmerged kdelibs-3.1.4 and emerged the new qt.  The install of 
3.2 failed at some point, so I installed 3.1.5.  Now, kde won't 
start.  The Nvidia splash screen flashes 3 or 4 times, then I'm 
dropped into console.  I checked /etc/X11/Sessions and it has the 
proper items, 3.1.1a and 3.1.5.  No matter which I put in 
/etc/rc.conf, I get the same result.  X works, but kde doesn't.  I'm 
stumped as to where else to look.  Any advice appreciated.  Thanks.

/etc/X11/Sessions should have kde-3.2.0

Why?  3.2.0 failed to install - so, all I have are 3.1.1a and 3.1.5.
Sorry, misunderstood your email. 

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[gentoo-user] Fetching mail

2004-02-09 Thread Alan Ianson
I'm going to be installing Gentoo in the next couple of days and need
help with sending/fetching mail. I did install gentoo before but
couldn't figure out how to do that. I emerged pine and fetchmail to grab
my email but fetchmail was unable to fetch my mail. Actually I think it
was able to but it didn't know what to do with it or maybe it needed
other software? I tried to emerge exim but it was blocked by
virtual/ssmtp and I couldn't figure out how to get it going.

I would like to get pine working to send/fetch mail, can anyone give me
pointers on what I need to emerge once gentoo is up and running? TIA.

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[gentoo-user] Re: how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)

2004-02-09 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Edit /etc/conf.d/rc and screw around with some of the settings. In
> particular, RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP will probably be a benefit on laptops
> (lots of CPU and terrible I/O).

  I tried that last year on my GENTOO/Linux laptop and noticed no effect.

  BTW: Does anyone know how far Seth's SystemServices (replace init with
  Python scripts) project has progressed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE failed

2004-02-09 Thread ejbr
On Feb 9, 2004, at 3:20 PM, Kevin Hanson wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not sure I remember everything, but I'll try . . .

I tried to update to KDE 3.2 using ~x86.  kdelibs-3.1.4 blocked qt.  
So, unmerged kdelibs-3.1.4 and emerged the new qt.  The install of 
3.2 failed at some point, so I installed 3.1.5.  Now, kde won't 
start.  The Nvidia splash screen flashes 3 or 4 times, then I'm 
dropped into console.  I checked /etc/X11/Sessions and it has the 
proper items, 3.1.1a and 3.1.5.  No matter which I put in 
/etc/rc.conf, I get the same result.  X works, but kde doesn't.  I'm 
stumped as to where else to look.  Any advice appreciated.  Thanks.

/etc/X11/Sessions should have kde-3.2.0

Why?  3.2.0 failed to install - so, all I have are 3.1.1a and 3.1.5.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...

2004-02-09 Thread Chris I
On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 19:35, Stroller wrote:
> The UK supplier has some graphics cards on sale "Today Only" (which at 
> the weekends means Monday, too).
> 
> Has anyone got any recommendations out of the following cheap graphics 
> cards..?
> Which will give best bang-per-buck..?
> 
> - 64Mb ATI 7000 DDR with TV/Out for £23
> - 64Mb ATI Radeon 7500LE SDR AGP TV Out for £30
> - 128Mb ATI Radeon (Sapphire) 9200SE Tv/Out for £35
> 
> Does the extra RAM make much difference..?
> 
> I don't really NEED a new graphics card, but I'm kinda tempted to 
> indulge myself and it might be nice to play the odd game since I 
> recently upgraded my machine.
> I'm guessing that any of these will show quite some performance gain 
> over my ageing G400 - is that right..?

I'm not going to get into one of the flames accidently sparked off
earlier, I'll just give you my (as impartial as possible) view on
things.

I have an 32MB ati mobility 7500 in my notebook, and a 128MB radeon 9200
(built by ati) in my desktop. I use the open source dri driver with
both, and havent had any issues (neverwinter nights is a little slow on
the 7500, but it's about the same speed as my old geforce2 mx. Nothing
unexpected there, they are both older cards).

So far all I have really played on the desktop is Enemy-Territory. I'll
go about installing nwn and ut2003 when I have some time off, so I cant
comment on more graphically intensive games.

The reason I would reccommend the 9200 above the 7000 and 7500, besides
the age of the card, is the fact that the 9200 is the highest ati card
that is supported by both the open-source dri driver and the binary ati
driver. You might need to look into whether the binary driver will work
with a card that isn't built-by-ati or not (it probably would, but you
never know).

My only experience with nvidia is with my old geforce2 mx. The driver is
fairly easy to install through portage and manually. My only issues were
some stability issues as people were changing the kernel interface
around the latter 2.5 kernels (after .65-ish). 

The catch here is that you need to use the binary drivers for 3d
accelleration for any nvidia card (and any ati card 9500 or later, and
optionally for 8500 and up). Not really a big deal unless you hunt
kernel bugs in your spare time. I'm assuming you don't, but just a heads
up incase you were curious.

That said, I paid $125 CAN for my 9200, so that looks like a pretty good
deal.

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