Re: [gentoo-user] Naive question

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:37:39 +
Vittorio wrote:

 I'm somewhat confused!
 
 Just yesterday I issued an emerge --rsync, fixpackages,  then 
 emerge -ubD world 
 
 Issuing now ls -l /etc/make.profile I get
 
 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 48  4 gen 18:46 /etc/make.profile 
 - ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.3
 
 How come I'm still stuck to 2004.3 and not to 2005.1?

read the answers to your previous message, in particular Chris Gysin's
answer.

2004.3 is only your profile, which is a set of defaults that your
original  system weas built with. forget it, if you have emerge sync'd
and then updated your packages, you are up to date.


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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Micheal really I've no more ideas, can you try exactly this?
set your CLOCK=UTC
in /etc/rc.conf or /etc/conf.d/clock depending from your baselayout version
# cd /etc
# rm localtime
# ln -s ../usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Rome localtime
reboot
if (your time now is CET)
is EST5EDT is broken ?
try to emerge again sys-libs/glibc
else
not the problem is not the file
try to emerge again baselayout
remember to relink the wanted EST5EDT
reboot
better ideas are well accepted
Michael Haan ha scritto:
I have rebooted since I made the change.  On a prior install of gentoo
a month ago on this same hardware, that choice worked for my timezone.
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:16:04 -0500, Bradley Serbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Micheal,
Your file is definitly linked correctly to a file in zoneinfo; however I
don't know if that is the same zone/setting as mine
(/usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern).  I'm also not sure of the difference.
Have you rebooted your machine since making the CLOCK=local change?  If
you don't want to reboot you can run
/etc/init.d/clock restart
and restart any depending services as suggested by a previous post.
- Brad Serbu
Michael Haan wrote:

I think it does, doesn't it?
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:25:32 -0500, Bradley Serbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

/etc/localtime should be linked to a file in /usr/share/zoneinfo that
corresponds to your local time.
Dave Nebinger wrote:


What is /etc/localtime linked to?

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Re: [gentoo-user] No signal or image from BT878-based video capture card

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout
firstly do you have video devices, they should be created by the bttv
module

cd /dev
find|grep video

there should be something like /dev/v4l/video0

secondly is xawtv using the right device? force t to a particular device with 
the -c parameter.

xawtv -c /dev/v4l/video0

once you have found the video device secondly go into xawtv and make
sure you have the right input and norm selected. Typically inputs are
composite, tuner (or tv) and s-video. this is selectable from xawtv's
interface.

norm is  pal, ntsc etc. this will depend on your camera.


On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:54:48 -0500
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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Michael Haan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ echo $TZ

[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $



On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 08:52:01 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what is TZ set to?
 
 echo $TZ
 
 this takes preference over the system wide preference set by
 /etc/localtime
 
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:27:34 -0500
 Michael Haan wrote:
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout
I just found out something interesting whilst fiddling:

TZ is the local users timezone setting, it can be set different to the
systemwide default of /etc/localtime. This is so someone logging in from the 
other side of the world can have their own timezone, via setting
their TZ variable

now most people will not have TZ set, as they are logging in to a local
machine and /etc/localtime will fix it. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ env|grep TZ   (no output, ie TZ is not set, even to 
null, in my environment)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $date
Fri Mar  4 09:29:00 NZDT 2005


BUT if TZ is present in your environment, but set to null, the system
will give UTC

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ TZ= date
Thu Mar  3 20:29:51 UTC 2005


(thats a space after TZ=   , ie set TZ to null.)

I think you should see if TZ exists in your environment by :

env|grep TZ






On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:07:07 -0500
Michael Haan wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ echo $TZ
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $
 
 
 
 On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 08:52:01 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  what is TZ set to?
  
  echo $TZ
  
  this takes preference over the system wide preference set by
  /etc/localtime
  
  On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:27:34 -0500
  Michael Haan wrote:
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound Won't Work

2005-03-03 Thread Keith Gable
No, so the ALSA developers can snicker and laugh at people sending
messages to mailing lists saying their sound isn't working, but it
appears everything's configured properly. =P

I know that I'd make it muted by default if I were one of the ALSA
developers, since it'd be funny to go er.. you unmute it yet? :)


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  When I tried using my Audigy 2 in linux (emu10k1), I had to configure
  ARTS to use only ALSA support instead of auto, and yes the mixers were
  muted by default, I don't know why
 
 Perhaps so you don't blow out your speakers on first boot?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck

2005-03-03 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, pepone pepone wrote:

 Hello what is the correct way in gentoo for automatic check partitions
 that are not cleane unmounted

If you reboot it will check the partitions if necessary (or use a journal
to make sure they are consistent). To do it manually, you should reboot
into single user mode and run fsck manually on the unmounted file-system
then bring the system up multi-user.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Keyboard Control Keys Stopped working.

2005-03-03 Thread Keith Gable
My keys do that on occasion if I'm running VMware. Logging out and
back in fixes it usually.


On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:23:03 -0500, Kurt Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Twice today, my keyboard control keys (ctrl, shift, caps lock, etc.)
 quit working on both a keyboard and laptop.  I've never seen this
 problem before.
 
 I emerged sys-apps/procps-3.2.4-r3  this morning, but I don't think that
 would do it.
 
 Any ideas?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Michael Haan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ env | grep TZ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $

Good idea, but no banana.


On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:32:39 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just found out something interesting whilst fiddling:
 
 TZ is the local users timezone setting, it can be set different to the
 systemwide default of /etc/localtime. This is so someone logging in from the 
 other side of the world can have their own timezone, via setting
 their TZ variable
 
 now most people will not have TZ set, as they are logging in to a local
 machine and /etc/localtime will fix it.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ env|grep TZ   (no output, ie TZ is not set, even to 
 null, in my environment)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $date
 Fri Mar  4 09:29:00 NZDT 2005
 
 BUT if TZ is present in your environment, but set to null, the system
 will give UTC
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ TZ= date
 Thu Mar  3 20:29:51 UTC 2005
 
 (thats a space after TZ=   , ie set TZ to null.)
 
 I think you should see if TZ exists in your environment by :
 
 env|grep TZ
 
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:07:07 -0500
 Michael Haan wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ echo $TZ
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $
 
 
 
  On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 08:52:01 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   what is TZ set to?
  
   echo $TZ
  
   this takes preference over the system wide preference set by
   /etc/localtime
  
   On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:27:34 -0500
   Michael Haan wrote:
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Configure.help file gone from 2.6.x kernels

2005-03-03 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Kevin wrote:

 From watching make menuconfig start up, and glancing at the file it
 calls on the command line, I think I've answered my own question.

 Looks like the answer to my question is this file:
 arch/i386/Kconfig

If you browse through /usr/src/liux you will also see that each folder has
a Kconfig file that describes the menu (and any submenus) for whatever is
in the folder.


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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Bradley Serbu
Micheal,
I'm also out of ideas.  I had a similar problem when doing a clean 
re-install of gentoo on a fresh drive.  However, the CLOCK=local fixed 
the problem for me.

- Brad
Michael Haan wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ env | grep TZ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $
Good idea, but no banana.
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:32:39 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I just found out something interesting whilst fiddling:
TZ is the local users timezone setting, it can be set different to the
systemwide default of /etc/localtime. This is so someone logging in from the 
other side of the world can have their own timezone, via setting
their TZ variable
now most people will not have TZ set, as they are logging in to a local
machine and /etc/localtime will fix it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ env|grep TZ   (no output, ie TZ is not set, even to 
null, in my environment)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $date
Fri Mar  4 09:29:00 NZDT 2005
BUT if TZ is present in your environment, but set to null, the system
will give UTC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ TZ= date
Thu Mar  3 20:29:51 UTC 2005
(thats a space after TZ=   , ie set TZ to null.)
I think you should see if TZ exists in your environment by :
env|grep TZ
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:07:07 -0500
Michael Haan wrote:
   

[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ echo $TZ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 08:52:01 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

what is TZ set to?
echo $TZ
this takes preference over the system wide preference set by
/etc/localtime
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:27:34 -0500
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound Won't Work

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout
Yes they do it to prove that no one reads documentation.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml

has a whole section about it.


I am sure the alsa docs themselves deal with it too.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:33:31 -0600
Keith Gable wrote:

 No, so the ALSA developers can snicker and laugh at people sending
 messages to mailing lists saying their sound isn't working, but it
 appears everything's configured properly. =P
 
 I know that I'd make it muted by default if I were one of the ALSA
 developers, since it'd be funny to go er.. you unmute it yet? :)
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Michael Haan
I'm wondering if my bios is set to use UTC.  Need to check that out.


On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:55:14 -0500, Bradley Serbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Micheal,
 
 I'm also out of ideas.  I had a similar problem when doing a clean
 re-install of gentoo on a fresh drive.  However, the CLOCK=local fixed
 the problem for me.
 
 - Brad
 
 Michael Haan wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ env | grep TZ
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $
 
 Good idea, but no banana.
 
 
 On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:32:39 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I just found out something interesting whilst fiddling:
 
 TZ is the local users timezone setting, it can be set different to the
 systemwide default of /etc/localtime. This is so someone logging in from 
 the other side of the world can have their own timezone, via setting
 their TZ variable
 
 now most people will not have TZ set, as they are logging in to a local
 machine and /etc/localtime will fix it.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ env|grep TZ   (no output, ie TZ is not set, even 
 to null, in my environment)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $date
 Fri Mar  4 09:29:00 NZDT 2005
 
 BUT if TZ is present in your environment, but set to null, the system
 will give UTC
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ TZ= date
 Thu Mar  3 20:29:51 UTC 2005
 
 (thats a space after TZ=   , ie set TZ to null.)
 
 I think you should see if TZ exists in your environment by :
 
 env|grep TZ
 
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:07:07 -0500
 Michael Haan wrote:
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ echo $TZ
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $
 
 
 
 On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 08:52:01 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 what is TZ set to?
 
 echo $TZ
 
 this takes preference over the system wide preference set by
 /etc/localtime
 
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:27:34 -0500
 Michael Haan wrote:
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout
do you also boot windows? if you don't then you can simply leave CLOCK=UTC in 
/etc/rc.conf


all that this setting does is define how to translate the hardware/bios
clock to system/kernel time on boot up, and vice versa on shutdown.

It does NOT affect how time is displayed on the system using the unix
date functions. Once the kernel clock is set on startup it functions
without reference to the hardware clock.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:05:29 -0500
Michael Haan wrote:

 I'm wondering if my bios is set to use UTC.  Need to check that out.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Keyboard Control Keys Stopped working.

2005-03-03 Thread Kurt Guenther
Keith Gable wrote:
if I'm running VMware.
Yes, I've been using vmware heavily to configure some servers.  Perhaps 
that's it.  Thx.

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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout
for heaven's sake bradley you only need to post each message once!

you have the list in as to: and cc:

and learn to trim your posts please.

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:55:14 -0500
Bradley Serbu wrote:

 Micheal,
 
 I'm also out of ideas.  I had a similar problem when doing a clean 
 re-install of gentoo on a fresh drive.  However, the CLOCK=local fixed 
 the problem for me.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Bradley Serbu
Obviously I know that... I had a no Reply-All memory lapse necessary 
because of the robin.gentoo forum transition.  It'll be easier on 
everyone once the transition takes place.

Nick Rout wrote:
for heaven's sake bradley you only need to post each message once!
you have the list in as to: and cc:
and learn to trim your posts please.
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:55:14 -0500
Bradley Serbu wrote:
 

Micheal,
I'm also out of ideas.  I had a similar problem when doing a clean 
re-install of gentoo on a fresh drive.  However, the CLOCK=local fixed 
the problem for me.

   

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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Michael Haan
Well, you're all gonna laugh - or not.  One of my earlier posts holds
the key, though I found it by trying to md5sum my timezone file.  From
before:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ ls -l /etc/localtime
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 26 Feb 26 17:34 /etc/localtime -
/usr/share/zoneifo/EST5EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ ls -l /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
-rw-r--r--  5 root root 1267 Feb 26 04:41 /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $

Anything look funny with where /etc/localtime is linked to?  Look closely.


On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 10:18:39 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 for heaven's sake bradley you only need to post each message once!
 
 you have the list in as to: and cc:
 
 and learn to trim your posts please.
 
 On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:55:14 -0500
 Bradley Serbu wrote:
 
  Micheal,
 
  I'm also out of ideas.  I had a similar problem when doing a clean
  re-install of gentoo on a fresh drive.  However, the CLOCK=local fixed
  the problem for me.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck

2005-03-03 Thread pepone pepone
I use jfs for my home partition and if mount fails i want to aumatic run fsck 
maybe i need same expecial option in fstab?

/dev/hdc5   /home/peponejfs noatime   
 0 0


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:14:28 -0500 (EST), A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, pepone pepone wrote:
 
  Hello what is the correct way in gentoo for automatic check partitions
  that are not cleane unmounted
 
 If you reboot it will check the partitions if necessary (or use a journal
 to make sure they are consistent). To do it manually, you should reboot
 into single user mode and run fsck manually on the unmounted file-system
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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Haan wrote:
Well, you're all gonna laugh - or not.  One of my earlier posts holds
the key, though I found it by trying to md5sum my timezone file.  From
before:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ ls -l /etc/localtime
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 26 Feb 26 17:34 /etc/localtime -
/usr/share/zoneifo/EST5EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ ls -l /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
-rw-r--r--  5 root root 1267 Feb 26 04:41 /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $
Anything look funny with where /etc/localtime is linked to?  Look closely.
Oh, *man*... For want of an 'N', I spent the whole bloody day tearing 
my hair out...!

Hey, it happens to us all at least once (and often more than once).
Glad you found the problem (and that as usual, it wasn't Gentoo's fault, 
as Gentoo is perfect, even when we are not ;-) ).

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo mirrors

2005-03-03 Thread Qian Qiao
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:07:09 +0100, Julien Cayzac
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 Hi,
 I'm using mirrorselect to update my make.conf and get faster
 downloads, but I've noticed that each mirror it selects gets
 unreachable after a while (usually one week or two).
 
 Are you experiencing such problems?
 I think I'm going to call mirrorselect in my cron.daily :-(

You may want to manually edit you make.conf file. Go to gentoo's
website, pick the mirror that you think is fastest, and put it in ur
make.conf file.

HTH.

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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:42:21 -0500
Michael Haan wrote:

 Well, you're all gonna laugh - or not.  One of my earlier posts holds
 the key, though I found it by trying to md5sum my timezone file.  From
 before:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ ls -l /etc/localtime
 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 26 Feb 26 17:34 /etc/localtime -
 /usr/share/zoneifo/EST5EDT
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ ls -l /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
 -rw-r--r--  5 root root 1267 Feb 26 04:41 /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $
 
 Anything look funny with where /etc/localtime is linked to?  Look closely.

man you do have to look hard to see it.

you can avoid this by using tab completion when putting in long paths.

 
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[gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread George Roberts
Hi all.
I got my Gentoo system finished a couple weeks ago and since that time 
it has grown to over 6 gigs.
I found FINDCRUFT from the forum: 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=254197highlight=findcruft.
When I run the script, it outputs a file that is 4.4 megs in size.  Most 
of which points to my Portage directory.  After about an hour of 
clicking and deleting, I checked the size of the Portage directory it is 
now down 98183 items, totalling 76.7 MB.  At this point I came to the 
realization that this is not what I bought a computer to spend my time 
doing.

Is there a more reasonable/saner way to maintain my system.
I am wondering is there any places where Portage stashes files that it 
has downloaded, or temp files (other than the tmp directory) that could 
be safely flushed.

Thanks in advance.
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RE: [gentoo-user] gentoo mirrors

2005-03-03 Thread Dave Nebinger
 I'm using mirrorselect to update my make.conf and get faster
 downloads, but I've noticed that each mirror it selects gets
 unreachable after a while (usually one week or two).

What do you mean by 'unreachable'?  emerge --sync reports an error, or is it
more of a network problem that ping/traceroute actually reports a node is
unreachable?



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[gentoo-user] Bugday reminder

2005-03-03 Thread Bryan stergaard
Hi all.

Just a reminder that saturday 5th marks the monthly bugday aka your
chance to help fix annoying bugs, meet some of the developers and have a
great time in general.

As usual, bugday is held in #gentoo-bugs on irc.freenode.net.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread Qian Qiao
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:04:16 -0700, George Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I got my Gentoo system finished a couple weeks ago and since that time
 it has grown to over 6 gigs.
 I found FINDCRUFT from the forum:
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=254197highlight=findcruft.
 When I run the script, it outputs a file that is 4.4 megs in size.  Most
 of which points to my Portage directory.  After about an hour of
 clicking and deleting, I checked the size of the Portage directory it is
 now down 98183 items, totalling 76.7 MB.  At this point I came to the
 realization that this is not what I bought a computer to spend my time
 doing.
 
 Is there a more reasonable/saner way to maintain my system.
 I am wondering is there any places where Portage stashes files that it
 has downloaded, or temp files (other than the tmp directory) that could
 be safely flushed.

Your system's portage distfile dir and portages work dir can be safely deleted.

HTH.

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RE: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread Dave Nebinger
You can safely drop /var/tmp/portage to reclaim a lot of space.
/usr/portage will typically contain the distribution files for those pieces
that you've emerged; you can remove these but re-emerging/updating would
download them again.

To 'clean' your /usr/portage directory you could try removing the whole
thing then drop a snapshot in place.

I keep my distribution files in an alternate location (my local ftp space
for other gentoo boxes on the internal network to retrieve from), but du -h
/usr/portage still reports that I'm using 1.5 Gig.  To me this is a small
price to pay, especially since disk space is so darn cheap to begin with.



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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout
everything inside /var/tmp/portage can be deleted. this is the area
where portage builds packages. if everything sompletes cleanly there is
usually not too much cruft here, but if an ebuild craps out it can leave
a lot of stuff. PS don't do this in the middle of an active ebuild, it
will well and truly stop the operation!

/usr/portage/distfiles is the source files that you have downloaded. For 
packages that have been superceded by a new version you can definitely
delete the source file.
 
For current packages there is no difficulty deleting the source package, but if 
you want to rebuild it you will need to download it again. you
may want to rebuild it for any number of reasons, eg if there is an
updated ebuild of the same version (eg package-1.4 gets bumped to
package-1.4-r1) or if you change your USE flags.

If you search the forums there are scripts to intelligently delete older stuff 
from /usr/portage/distfiles

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:04:16 -0700
George Roberts wrote:

 Hi all.
 
 I got my Gentoo system finished a couple weeks ago and since that time 
 it has grown to over 6 gigs.
 I found FINDCRUFT from the forum: 
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=254197highlight=findcruft.
 When I run the script, it outputs a file that is 4.4 megs in size.  Most 
 of which points to my Portage directory.  After about an hour of 
 clicking and deleting, I checked the size of the Portage directory it is 
 now down 98183 items, totalling 76.7 MB.  At this point I came to the 
 realization that this is not what I bought a computer to spend my time 
 doing.
 
 Is there a more reasonable/saner way to maintain my system.
 I am wondering is there any places where Portage stashes files that it 
 has downloaded, or temp files (other than the tmp directory) that could 
 be safely flushed.
 
 Thanks in advance.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread Holly Bostick
George Roberts wrote:
I am wondering is there any places where Portage stashes files that it 
has downloaded
/usr/portage/distfiles. This can always be safely deleted, although 
doing so will mean that you will have to re-download the source files if 
you ever need to reinstall any of the programs you have currently installed.

 or temp files (other than the tmp directory) that could 
be safely flushed.
The temp files for failed emerges are found in (I believe) 
/var/tmp/portage/package_name. These can also be deleted (the temp files 
are deleted automatically when the emerge succeeds, and if the emerge 
has failed, the temp files aren't going to help you much anyway), and 
can get pretty big if you failed to compile OO.o, for example.

Hope this helps.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Lost VI colors...

2005-03-03 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:49:30 -0500 Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| Vim.  Vim and vim core (for both) are 6.3-r4.

Hrm. Are we talking app-vim/colorschemes stuff here? If so, sync and
upgrade.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread Marc Ballarin
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:04:16 -0700
George Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a more reasonable/saner way to maintain my system.
 I am wondering is there any places where Portage stashes files that it 
 has downloaded, or temp files (other than the tmp directory) that could 
 be safely flushed.

Hi,

portage/distfiles contains downloaded sources and can grow quite large
over time. If you have a fast internet connection you can safely delete
it.

portage/packages contains binary packages that are created when using the
-b or -B options to emerge, or if you have set FEATURES=buildpkg in
make.conf. You can delete this as well.

/var/tmp/portage contains temp files while building. Those files can be
left behind if emerge fails or is interrupted. You can delete it as long
as emerge is not running.

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[gentoo-user] OT - mailman issues and more

2005-03-03 Thread Michael Sullivan
I emerged mailman this afternoon.  I've posted to this list about
mailman before, so I dug up those responses and followed there advice,
setting the mail ID to the daemon's gid in the ebuild and setting the
VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = OFF in mm_cfg.py.  I set up a test list and went
out to the website to subscribe myself to it.  It said that my
subscription was successful, but I never got any kind of welcome message
in evolution, or even a notice that someone had subscribed (the address
I subscribed to the Test list from was the same as what I gave as the
owner of the list).  I searched the logs, and the only thing somewhat
out of the ordinary I found was this:

Mar  3 16:34:17 bullet sm-mta[31393]: j23MXBTH031209:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:22, xdelay=00:00:21,
mailer=local, pri=140918, relay=local, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent


I don't have a mailman.log file or even a mail.log - I get everything
out of /var/log/messages unless it would be in the apache2 logs, but I
checked there and didn't see anything that seemed relevent.

Another problem I have that's related to mailman is the apache2 setup of
mailman.  This morning I followed the HowTo at gentoo.wiki.com to set up
apache with mod_php.  PHP was working until I added the -D MAILMAN
to /etc/conf.d/apache2  This is how I have it now:

APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4
APACHE2_OPTS=-D MAILMAN

It's on two lines, and I think the second line is overriding the first.  
Originally I had it on one line:

APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4 -D MAILMAN

but then when I went to restart apache2 it wouldn't restart.  It kept failing.  
What is the proper syntax for the APACHE2_OPT lines?

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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Michael Haan ha scritto:
Well, you're all gonna laugh - or not.  One of my earlier posts holds
the key, though I found it by trying to md5sum my timezone file.  From
before:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ ls -l /etc/localtime
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 26 Feb 26 17:34 /etc/localtime -
/usr/share/zoneifo/EST5EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $ ls -l /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
-rw-r--r--  5 root root 1267 Feb 26 04:41 /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] haanm $
Anything look funny with where /etc/localtime is linked to?  Look closely.
well reread the first answer you received ^_^ ...
... going laughing (remembering that I've done much worst things)
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT - mailman issues and more

2005-03-03 Thread Michael Sullivan
UPDATE:

I got both apache to start with both the PHP4 and MAILMAN options on the
same line, so that part isn't a problem anymore.  I guess it was just a
fluke earlier...

On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 16:52 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I emerged mailman this afternoon.  I've posted to this list about
 mailman before, so I dug up those responses and followed there advice,
 setting the mail ID to the daemon's gid in the ebuild and setting the
 VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = OFF in mm_cfg.py.  I set up a test list and went
 out to the website to subscribe myself to it.  It said that my
 subscription was successful, but I never got any kind of welcome message
 in evolution, or even a notice that someone had subscribed (the address
 I subscribed to the Test list from was the same as what I gave as the
 owner of the list).  I searched the logs, and the only thing somewhat
 out of the ordinary I found was this:
 
 Mar  3 16:34:17 bullet sm-mta[31393]: j23MXBTH031209:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:22, xdelay=00:00:21,
 mailer=local, pri=140918, relay=local, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
 
 
 I don't have a mailman.log file or even a mail.log - I get everything
 out of /var/log/messages unless it would be in the apache2 logs, but I
 checked there and didn't see anything that seemed relevent.
 
 Another problem I have that's related to mailman is the apache2 setup of
 mailman.  This morning I followed the HowTo at gentoo.wiki.com to set up
 apache with mod_php.  PHP was working until I added the -D MAILMAN
 to /etc/conf.d/apache2  This is how I have it now:
 
 APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4
 APACHE2_OPTS=-D MAILMAN
 
 It's on two lines, and I think the second line is overriding the first.  
 Originally I had it on one line:
 
 APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4 -D MAILMAN
 
 but then when I went to restart apache2 it wouldn't restart.  It kept 
 failing.  What is the proper syntax for the APACHE2_OPT lines?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mailman issues and more

2005-03-03 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Michael Sullivan ha scritto:
I emerged mailman this afternoon.  I've posted to this list about
mailman before, so I dug up those responses and followed there advice,
setting the mail ID to the daemon's gid in the ebuild and setting the
VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = OFF in mm_cfg.py.  I set up a test list and went
out to the website to subscribe myself to it.  It said that my
subscription was successful, but I never got any kind of welcome message
in evolution, or even a notice that someone had subscribed (the address
I subscribed to the Test list from was the same as what I gave as the
owner of the list).  I searched the logs, and the only thing somewhat
out of the ordinary I found was this:
Mar  3 16:34:17 bullet sm-mta[31393]: j23MXBTH031209:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:22, xdelay=00:00:21,
mailer=local, pri=140918, relay=local, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
I don't have a mailman.log file or even a mail.log - I get everything
out of /var/log/messages unless it would be in the apache2 logs, but I
checked there and didn't see anything that seemed relevent.
Another problem I have that's related to mailman is the apache2 setup of
mailman.  This morning I followed the HowTo at gentoo.wiki.com to set up
apache with mod_php.  PHP was working until I added the -D MAILMAN
to /etc/conf.d/apache2  This is how I have it now:
APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4
APACHE2_OPTS=-D MAILMAN
It's on two lines, and I think the second line is overriding the first.  
Originally I had it on one line:
APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4 -D MAILMAN
APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4 -D PYTHON
works for me so you were right
but then when I went to restart apache2 it wouldn't restart.  It kept 
failing.  What is the proper syntax for the APACHE2_OPT lines?
yep
APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4
alone work for you ? repeat with only MAILMAN
+ look at /var/log/apache2/error_log
+ look at the output of:
# /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -D PHP4 -D MAILMAN

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Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME Volume Hotkeys (or how to set what my master volume control actually increases/decreases...)

2005-03-03 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 08:53 -0600, Keith Gable wrote:
 I noticed a key in gconf. It's something like
 /apps/panel/profiles/default/applet.4/preferences/channel (or
 something to that effect, I have no idea what it actually is
[snip]

I had a play around, and it looks like its the settings for the volume
control applet on the gnome panel.  Right click on this applet to bring
up preferences, then you can select which chanel the applet controls.
(You'll notice the value in gconf-editor changing as well).

I use this applet to control my volume, because I can't get the keys
working properly - its second best though as I have to move the mouse to
the applet, etc.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck

2005-03-03 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, pepone pepone wrote:

 I use jfs for my home partition and if mount fails i want to aumatic run fsck
 maybe i need same expecial option in fstab?

 /dev/hdc5   /home/peponejfs noatime

Normally checkfs runs fsck BEFORE mounting a file system (file systems
need to be unmounted for fsck to work on them), so your system probably
already does this. In the old days this would be similar to the preen
options which do some light cleanup of file systems.

You can also force a full fsck every time you boot by creating the file
/forcefsck (e.g. touch /forcefsck) when shutting down - the next time
you restart it will do a full fsck of all disks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread George Roberts
Firstly let me thank everbody for their responses.
By snapshot (please excuse me, I am a noobie), do you mean have the 
system regenerate a snapshot of where the system is today.  So that if 
I were to a merge --newuse world, only the active packages in use as 
of today would be rebuilt.  Or I just totally lost somewhere out in left 
field?

Dave Nebinger wrote:
To 'clean' your /usr/portage directory you could try removing the whole
thing then drop a snapshot in place.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] kdeenablefinal

2005-03-03 Thread Mariusz Pkala
On 2005-03-03 11:01:29 -0400 (Thu, Mar), Arran Fraser wrote:
 
 So is the heavy mem usage only during compilation, or do the compilation 
 speedups result in programs that use lots of memory?

AFAIK it affect only compilation time.

Last time I was using it, heavy mem usage was not noticeable for me having 512 
RAM.
I was happily working in KDE during compilation.
The compilation time reduction was impressing:

 * kde-base/kdeedu

 Thu Jul 29 23:46:39 2004  kde-base/kdeedu-3.2.3
   merge time: 1 hour, 4 minutes and 18 seconds.

 Sun Sep 12 22:19:18 2004  kde-base/kdeedu-3.3.0
   merge time: 1 hour, 35 minutes and 32 seconds.

 Fri Nov 12 06:01:36 2004  kde-base/kdeedu-3.3.1
   merge time: 1 hour, 43 minutes and 41 seconds.

 Mon Jan  3 02:35:19 2005  kde-base/kdeedu-3.3.2
   merge time: 4 hours, 9 minutes and 4 seconds.

 Mon Feb 21 01:57:37 2005  kde-base/kdeedu-3.3.2-r1
   merge time: 39 minutes and 37 seconds.


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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread Holly Bostick
George Roberts wrote:
Firstly let me thank everbody for their responses.
By snapshot (please excuse me, I am a noobie), do you mean have the 
system regenerate a snapshot of where the system is today.  So that if 
I were to a merge --newuse world, only the active packages in use as 
of today would be rebuilt.  Or I just totally lost somewhere out in left 
field?

No, what is meant is a Portage snapshot, such as the one used when 
installing without a network connection.

Quote:
Installing a Portage Snapshot and Source Code from LiveCD
There is a Portage snapshot available on the Universal LiveCDs. Since 
you are reading this, we can safely assume you are using such a LiveCD. 
To install this snapshot, take a look inside /mnt/cdrom/snapshots/ to 
see what snapshot we have available:

/endquote
Snapshots can also be downloaded from the Internet, for example from
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/snapshots/
So basically, if you just wipe the Portage directory, a snapshot allows 
you to start clean, if you would find that useful. Many of us find it 
sufficient to just delete the contents of /usr/portage/distfiles. 
Ebuilds themselves don't take up much space.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck

2005-03-03 Thread Mike Williams
On Thursday 03 March 2005 23:05, A. Khattri wrote:
 You can also force a full fsck every time you boot by creating the file
 /forcefsck (e.g. touch /forcefsck) when shutting down - the next time
 you restart it will do a full fsck of all disks.

Not quite. You need to set the last field of each partition line in fstab to a 
number greater than 1, otherwise the forcefsck won't touch them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:32:29 -0700
George Roberts wrote:

 Firstly let me thank everbody for their responses.
 
 By snapshot (please excuse me, I am a noobie), do you mean have the 
 system regenerate a snapshot of where the system is today. 

no a snapshot is a tarball of the /usr/portage directory made at a
certain point in time, and not including the distfiles or packages
subdirectories.

What the poster was saying was that if you want to completely clean out
/usr/portage, then delete it and install a (recent) snapshot, then you
have what portage provides and only what portage provides.

I am not sure I agree that that is a good idea, just trying to explain
what was posted earlier.


 So that if 
 I were to a merge --newuse world, only the active packages in use as 
 of today would be rebuilt.  Or I just totally lost somewhere out in left 
 field?
 
 Dave Nebinger wrote:
 
 To 'clean' your /usr/portage directory you could try removing the whole
 thing then drop a snapshot in place.
   
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread George Roberts
Holly Bostick wrote:
George Roberts wrote:
Firstly let me thank everbody for their responses.
By snapshot (please excuse me, I am a noobie), do you mean have the 
system regenerate a snapshot of where the system is today.  So that 
if I were to a merge --newuse world, only the active packages in 
use as of today would be rebuilt.  Or I just totally lost somewhere 
out in left field?

No, what is meant is a Portage snapshot, such as the one used when 
installing without a network connection.

Quote:
Installing a Portage Snapshot and Source Code from LiveCD
There is a Portage snapshot available on the Universal LiveCDs. Since 
you are reading this, we can safely assume you are using such a 
LiveCD. To install this snapshot, take a look inside 
/mnt/cdrom/snapshots/ to see what snapshot we have available:

/endquote
Snapshots can also be downloaded from the Internet, for example from
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/snapshots/
So basically, if you just wipe the Portage directory, a snapshot 
allows you to start clean, if you would find that useful. Many of us 
find it sufficient to just delete the contents of 
/usr/portage/distfiles. Ebuilds themselves don't take up much space.

HTH,
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[gentoo-user] events/1 hogs 99.9% CPU in 2.6.10 kernel w/SATA!

2005-03-03 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Hello,

I'm having a problem with two machines I admin. Both are
running identical 2.6.10 kernels:

Linux rhea 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 #1 SMP Mon Feb 21 16:54:22 EST 2005 i686 Pentium 
II(Deschutes) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

One is an SMP machine, and the other is not (but runs an SMP kernel).
This problem showed up on my non SMP machine even before it was running
an SMP kernel, so I'm ruling out SMP.

Here's the CPU hog from `top`:

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
7 root  15 -10 000 R 99.9  0.0 312:26.32 events/1

And here it is from `ps`:
# ps auxwww  | grep event
root 6  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?D   13:19   0:00 [events/0]
root 7 94.9  0.0  0 0 ?R   13:19 316:49 [events/1]

The *only* similarity between these two machines that I can think of
is the fact that they both run SATA drives with the libata driver.

One is a P4, one is a dual CPU P2. They're very different machines.

If I try to shut the machine down when it is in this state, it hangs
after it saves the random seed data.

Has anyone seen this before? Does anyone else run SATA via libata
on a 2.6.10 kernel without this problem? How do I fix it?

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[gentoo-user] configuration nvidia TNT2 m64

2005-03-03 Thread Pedro Sousa
Why,
As I'm aware, the nvidia-kernel doesn't suport anymore old card.
So I've a problem, because I have an nvidia m64. I heared that I could 
use  nv Driver, and that's what I'm doing, but until now the maximum 
that I could do was getting some graphics were I can use the mouse and 
nothing more.

Can anyone send the configuration file for this card. That is, can 
anyone send the script for xorg.conf to get this car working?

I would apreciate.
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[gentoo-user] small fonts in Evolution reply after recent upgrade

2005-03-03 Thread Joseph
When I hit reply to text email in Evolution my font are smaller then
usual after recent upgrade.

Does anybody knows what is causing it?

Is it worth switching to Thunderbird?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is (and how do I read) root's mail?

2005-03-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 01:54:34PM -0700, Scott Taylor wrote

 The ssmtp package sets up a simplistic mail relay that'll allow
 local apps to send mail to localhost and ssmtp just forwards it to
 a real mail server somewhere else. But you'll need to tell even it
 where to send your root emails.

  Booby trap alert.  ssmtp can install a symlink as /usr/sbin/sendmail
which points back to /usr/sbin/ssmtp.  I did that once... and chatty
cron jobs sent their emails to root.  sendmail forwarded them to my
smarthost, i.e. my ISP's MTA.  It in turn forwarded the emails to
root@ my ISP.  I got a polite email from my ISP asking me to stop
thatg.  That's been my most embarressing moment as a user.

  I solved that by setting root=waltdnes.  As a safety measure, I also
deleted the sendmail symlink.  This is where I learned about apps that
*WILL NOT BUILD* if they can't find sendmail.  Surprisingly, mutt
builds OK, and I point it to /usr/sbin/ssmtp.  The surprises were gnupg
and slrn refusing to build when they couldn't find sendmail.  In
frustration, I went and did...

touch /usr/sbin/sendmail
chmod 755 /usr/sbin/sendmail
chattr +i /usr/sbin/sendmail

  The presence of a zero-byte executable called /usr/sbin/sendmail
gave gpg and slrn the necessary warm fuzzies to build on my system.

  While we're on the subject of ssmtp, I own my personal domain, and use
several names @waltdnes.org (including postmaster and abuse) which are
forwarded to my waltdnes account.  It seems that ssmtp absolutely
*INSISTS* on setting the From: to useraccount@, regardless of what I
set the From: to in mutt.  The only override I've managed to find is
revaliases.  It's somewhat clunky having to su - and edit revaliases to
answer an email to one of my other aliases.  Is there a glaringly
obvious easier way that I've missed somewhere?

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice emerge fails finding jdk

2005-03-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 03:19:46PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 Did you emerge a java and then run the java config?  Check the Gentoo
 site for docs on setting up the java.

  Does OO *NEED* Java?  And if so, why?

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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread W.Kenworthy
To add to this, many updates are released as a patch to the existing
source, so again, an upgrade without the source will require it to be
downloaded - again.

There are utilities (search the forums) that will clean distfiles,
limiting it to only the installed sources - these usually work well.

However, unless space is critical I would leave them there.  Unless you
are on a low cost, mega fast link having the sources already available
speeds things up a lot.

Alternatives are burn them to cdrom, put them on a remote nfs mount etc.

BillK


On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 23:11 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
 George Roberts wrote:
  I am wondering is there any places where Portage stashes files that it 
  has downloaded
 
 /usr/portage/distfiles. This can always be safely deleted, although 
 doing so will mean that you will have to re-download the source files if 
 you ever need to reinstall any of the programs you have currently installed.
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] small fonts in Evolution reply after recent upgrade

2005-03-03 Thread rodrigo
El 04/03/05 00:56:21, Joseph escribió:
When I hit reply to text email in Evolution my font are smaller  
then
usual after recent upgrade.

Does anybody knows what is causing it?
Is it worth switching to Thunderbird?
are you using evolution outside of gnome, i've got to start gnome- 
settings-daemon in fluxbox to get correct size of fonts in evolution...

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Re: [gentoo-user] small fonts in Evolution reply after recent upgrade

2005-03-03 Thread Joseph
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 23:12 +, rodrigo wrote:
 El 04/03/05 00:56:21, Joseph escribió:
  When I hit reply to text email in Evolution my font are smaller  
  then
  usual after recent upgrade.
  
  Does anybody knows what is causing it?
  
  Is it worth switching to Thunderbird?
 
 are you using evolution outside of gnome, i've got to start gnome- 
 settings-daemon in fluxbox to get correct size of fonts in evolution...

Yes, I'm using Evolution with KDE.
The font got considerably smaller but my eyes are not getting any
better; so it is annoying.

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub-install failure

2005-03-03 Thread maxim wexler
 
 Yes; since when is /boot on /dev/hda? Did you move
 your WinXP drive 
 (which you said was /dev/hda, and does not contain a
 /boot directory, 
 afaik) to another slot on the IDE cable and re-swap
 your Linux drive to 
 the primary master?

I was hoping for something like my previous system
where XP would boot but give me a choice between XP,
the master, and two other linuxes, slack and ubuntu,
each on a seperate, slave drive. I had already copied
over to C:\ the first 512 bytes of each seperate drive
and edited my boot.ini file accordingly. I merely
scrolled to whatever OS I wanted. If one of the
linuxes was chosen the lilo on the appropriate slave
would start. It was simply a matter of popping the two
other drives in and out.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] 6 gigs to clean up

2005-03-03 Thread George Roberts
Thanks again to all that have helped me.
After following your instructions I have dropped from over 6 gigs down 
to 3.8 gigs, which seems to be a  more reasonable figure to me.
I am on a cable connection so re-downloading is not a major issue with me. 
My distfiles had grown to 1.2 gigs, and yes also there were some failed 
emerge packages.
Backing up to cds is always a good idea.
This sets my deranged mind to wondering, is there a howto setup for how 
to screw up my system and bring it back to the stable point simply 
working from backups?

W.Kenworthy wrote:
To add to this, many updates are released as a patch to the existing
source, so again, an upgrade without the source will require it to be
downloaded - again.
There are utilities (search the forums) that will clean distfiles,
limiting it to only the installed sources - these usually work well.
However, unless space is critical I would leave them there.  Unless you
are on a low cost, mega fast link having the sources already available
speeds things up a lot.
Alternatives are burn them to cdrom, put them on a remote nfs mount etc.
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On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 23:11 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
 

George Roberts wrote:
   

I am wondering is there any places where Portage stashes files that it 
has downloaded
 

/usr/portage/distfiles. This can always be safely deleted, although 
doing so will mean that you will have to re-download the source files if 
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub-install failure

2005-03-03 Thread maxim wexler
 Had the same problem. Have you forgotten to mount
 /proc before chroot:ing?
 (That peice is hidden a little earlier in the
 handbook). 

I mounted it. I followed the instructions in the FAQ
re a kernel recompile in a broken system. Only I did a
grub-install instead.

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out

2005-03-03 Thread Peter Gordon
Chris Cox wrote:
Put the following in your /etc/portage/package.mask (create the file if it
doesn't exist)  :
=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629
=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.6629
Then emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx and try this version of the nvidia
driver.  All versions above nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3 do not work for me.  So
I finally just excepted that fact and masked everything =1.0.6629.
Thanks, but I've already added those to my package.mask, but the 1.0-6111
nVidia kernel module refuses to compile on 2.6.11 and most its the release
candidates for me.
I'm ok with it though. I rarely play games and I have no need for hardware
which can only work with proprietary drivers. Is it idealistic? Very. Is it
impractical? Probably to some. The less proprietary software I use the better.
Coincidentally, I haven't had X hardlock on me for quite some time now... ;-)
Thanks anyway though. :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] configuration nvidia TNT2 m64

2005-03-03 Thread Peter Gordon
I have the same card. It's a Riva TNT2 M64, 2x AGP. 32 MB (ELSA
ERAZOR III LT). I can send you my xorg.conf if you'd like.
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub-install failure

2005-03-03 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:40:56 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Had the same problem. Have you forgotten to mount
  /proc before chroot:ing?
  (That peice is hidden a little earlier in the
  handbook).
 
 I mounted it. I followed the instructions in the FAQ
 re a kernel recompile in a broken system. Only I did a
 grub-install instead.
 

OK, review time per the handbook.

1) You've booted from an emergency system
2) you've mounted your gentoo root partition
3) you've mounted your gentoo boot partion
4) you've mounted /proc
5) you've done chroot, env-update, source /etc/profile
6) you've determined that /mnt/gentoo/boot/grub does contain the grub
stage files and a valid grub.conf
7) grub
root (hdx,y) - specs for your boot partition (should get
feedback on partition type)
setup (hd0)  - the first disk (should get feedback about
finding all the  files and success)
   quit

What are the results of this operation for you? Specific messages please.

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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice emerge fails finding jdk

2005-03-03 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
From what I've seen OOo will use java.  In the windows install it was 
optional - I could skip it.  On Gentoo maybe using -java or someother flag 
will disable it.

 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 03:19:46PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Did you emerge a java and then run the java config?  Check the Gentoo
site for docs on setting up the java.
 Does OO *NEED* Java?  And if so, why?

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Re: [gentoo-user] search emerge

2005-03-03 Thread Octavio Ruiz (Ta^3)
Neil Bothwick, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks:
 On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:22:03 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 
  Also, eix is newer and ~x86 only, IIRC.
 
 It's not only ~x86, it's ~x86, ~amd64, ~alpha, ~ia64, ~ppc and ~sparc.
 
 However, as good as eix is, it won't help in this case because it cannot
 search categories. esearch will.
 
 emerge esearch
 eupdatedb (this is the part that is slower than eix)
 esearch -F net-analyzer

Using Ebuild IndeX Version 0.2.1

% eix -A net-analyzer

do the same ;-)


ot
And also faster x-D

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ time  esearch -F net-analyzer  /dev/null

real0m0.350s
user0m0.100s
sys 0m0.014s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ time eix -A net-analyzer /dev/null

real0m0.059s
user0m0.038s
sys 0m0.002s

(Come on, who cares about milisecs? :P)
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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck

2005-03-03 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 23:50 +, Mike Williams wrote:
 On Thursday 03 March 2005 23:05, A. Khattri wrote:
  You can also force a full fsck every time you boot by creating the file
  /forcefsck (e.g. touch /forcefsck) when shutting down - the next time
  you restart it will do a full fsck of all disks.
 
 Not quite. You need to set the last field of each partition line in fstab to 
 a 
 number greater than 1, otherwise the forcefsck won't touch them.

however, while looking into this, (because I noticed I haven't ever seen
the filesystem check when I shutdown uncleanly) I found
in /etc/init.d/checkfs:

fsck -C -T -R -A -a

now I'm happy with all of that except the -R, according to man fsck:

-R When checking all file systems with the -A flag, skip  the  root
  file system (in case it's already mounted read-write).

Am I right when I read this as don't even bother to try to check the
root fs?  Shouldn't it be rather try to check the root fs unless its
mounted read-write?

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub-install failure

2005-03-03 Thread maxim wexler
 What are the results of this operation for you?
 Specific messages please.

YIPPEE! all is cool 8-)

Nobody's suggestions worked. I tried every possible
combination of hdx with the same result: /boot or
/boot/boot or //boot (or some others I don't recall):
Not found or not a block device.

So I just used lilo. I edited lilo.conf as if /dev/hdb
was my only drive and reduced the pause time to zero
secs. I did dd if=/dev/hdb1 bs=512 count=1 onto a
floppy as gentoo.bin, booted XP and copied it to C:\.
Then I edited my boot.ini adding the line
C:\gentoo.bin=Gentoo. Now XP boots and gives me a
choice. A simple click, and awaaay we go.

Now lessee, how do I get rid of grub?

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Re: [gentoo-user] search emerge

2005-03-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 04 March 2005 05:05, Octavio Ruiz (Ta^3) wrote:

  emerge esearch
  eupdatedb (this is the part that is slower than eix)
  esearch -F net-analyzer

 Using Ebuild IndeX Version 0.2.1

 % eix -A net-analyzer

 do the same ;-)

and with esync all you have to do is:
esync and you will rsync+update the easearch db + shows all newupdated 
ebuilds...
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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck

2005-03-03 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Iain Buchanan wrote:

 however, while looking into this, (because I noticed I haven't ever seen
 the filesystem check when I shutdown uncleanly) I found
 in /etc/init.d/checkfs:

 fsck -C -T -R -A -a

 now I'm happy with all of that except the -R, according to man fsck:

 -R When checking all file systems with the -A flag, skip  the  root
   file system (in case it's already mounted read-write).

 Am I right when I read this as don't even bother to try to check the
 root fs?  Shouldn't it be rather try to check the root fs unless its
 mounted read-write?

Think about this - if the checkfs script is running then root must already
be mounted. You shouldn't (can't?) fsck a mounted fs. Also if you look at the
startup scripts you will see that checkroot runs BEFORE checkfs so the
root file system has already been fsck'ed at that point by the checkroot
script.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How emerge keeps track of what files need to be copied?

2005-03-03 Thread John Myers
On Friday 25 February 2005 07:26, Francisco Figueiredo Jr. wrote:
 Hi all,

 After using sometime emerge, I noticed that it first compiles the
 programs to somedir/work temp dir and later copy contents to the real
 prefix /


 Does emerge uses that procedure to be able to keep track of what files
 need to be copied to /prefix?

 Does it uses this information too to know what files need to be deleted
 when I emerge -C?


 Just to confirm, if I did a ebuild which compiles files a.blah and
 b.blah and copies them to /usr/bin when I emerge -C emerge will know it
 needs to delete a.blah and b.blah?
NB: I am not an ebuild writer, but I have played with them on occasion, and I 
have read the docs.
That said, 
Here's how it works:
The ebuild unpacks the source into ${WORKDIR} 
(/var/tmp/portage/foo-x.y.z/work)

The ebuild compiles the source in ${WORKDIR}.
Portage creates ${DESTDIR} (/var/tmp/portage/foo-x.y.z/image)
The ebuild installs the compiled package, not into /, but ${DESTDIR} 
(i.e. /usr/bin/foo would actually be installed into ${DESTDIR}/usr/bin/foo).

Portage then copies the contents of ${DESTDIR} into /, recording the file 
path, timestamps and an md5sum of each file as it goes.

emerge -C just takes this list, and deletes every file in the list where
(1) the timestamps match
(2) the md5sum matches
(3) the file is not CONFIG_PROTECTed
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[gentoo-user] Apache + PHP5

2005-03-03 Thread Ash Varma
Hi.

I have been using apache-2.0.52-r2 and PHP5 for a while... Recently
upgraded to apache-2.0.52-r3 and moved all the configs to the httpd.conf

However, I cannot get PHP5 to work... All browsers try to download the
file, rather than display it...

What could be wrong? I have included what I think are the relant
sections of my config files... Any pointers / help very much
appreciated.


- /etc/apache2/httpd.conf--
Include conf/modules.d/*.conf
---


- /etc/conf.d/apache2 -
APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP5 -D SSL -D DOC
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- /etc/apache2/modules.d/70_mod_php5.conf -
IfDefine PHP5
# Load the module first
IfModule !sapi_apache2.c
LoadModule php5_module  modules/libphp5.so
/IfModule

# Set it to handle the files
IfModule mod_mime.c
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
AddType application/x-httpd-php .phtml
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php3
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php4
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php5
AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
/IfModule
/IfDefine
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[gentoo-user] glsa-check - is it any good?

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Rout
I keep my systems reasonably up to date and kind of assume that regular
syncing and updating will keep it safe.

However today I started looking at glsa-check, just to suss it out.
However either I am doing something wrong, or it is stupid.

For example GLSA 200502-09 relates to python. It says that the problem
is solved if python is =2.3.4-r1. I have 2.3.4-r1 installed. However
glsa -t 200502-09 tells me that the glsa applies to my system. There are
several other similar examples.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ glsa-check -d 200502-09
WARNING: This tool is completely new and not very tested, so it should
not be
used on production systems. It's mainly a test tool for the new GLSA
release
and distribution system, it's functionality will later be merged into
emerge
and equery.
Please read http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/glsa-integration.xml
before using this tool AND before reporting a bug.

GLSA 200502-09:
Python: Arbitrary code execution through SimpleXMLRPCServer

Synopsis:  Python-based XML-RPC servers may be vulnerable to
remote
   execution of arbitrary code.
Announced on:  February 08, 2005
Last revised on:   February 08, 2005: 01

Affected package:  dev-lang/python
Affected archs:All
Vulnerable:=2.3.4
Unaffected:=2.3.4-r1 =~2.3.3-r2 =~2.2.3-r6


Related bugs:  80592

Background:Python is an interpreted, interactive,
object-oriented,
   cross-platform programming language.

Description:   Graham Dumpleton discovered that XML-RPC servers
making
   use of the SimpleXMLRPCServer library that use the
   register_instance() method to register an object
without
   a _dispatch() method are vulnerable to a flaw
allowing to
   read or modify globals of the associated module.

Impact:A remote attacker may be able to exploit the flaw in
such
   XML-RPC servers to execute arbitrary code on the
server
   host with the rights of the XML-RPC server.

Workaround:Python users that don't make use of any
   SimpleXMLRPCServer-based XML-RPC servers, or making
use
   of servers using only the register_function() method
are
   not affected.

Resolution:All Python users should upgrade to the latest
version:

   # emerge --sync
   # emerge --ask --oneshot --verbose dev-lang/python

References:
   CAN-2005-0089:
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-0089

   Python PSF-2005-001:
http://www.python.org/security/PSF-2005-001/



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Re: [gentoo-user] How emerge keeps track of what files need to be copied?

2005-03-03 Thread Dion Sole
It also will not delete a directory if it isn't empty.
The rest is spot-on though.
John Myers wrote:
NB: I am not an ebuild writer, but I have played with them on occasion, and I 
have read the docs.
That said, 
Here's how it works:
The ebuild unpacks the source into ${WORKDIR} 
(/var/tmp/portage/foo-x.y.z/work)

The ebuild compiles the source in ${WORKDIR}.
Portage creates ${DESTDIR} (/var/tmp/portage/foo-x.y.z/image)
The ebuild installs the compiled package, not into /, but ${DESTDIR} 
(i.e. /usr/bin/foo would actually be installed into ${DESTDIR}/usr/bin/foo).

Portage then copies the contents of ${DESTDIR} into /, recording the file 
path, timestamps and an md5sum of each file as it goes.

emerge -C just takes this list, and deletes every file in the list where
(1) the timestamps match
(2) the md5sum matches
(3) the file is not CONFIG_PROTECTed
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Re: [gentoo-user] System has UTC, where I want EST

2005-03-03 Thread Michael Haan
I think it does, doesn't it?


On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:25:32 -0500, Bradley Serbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 /etc/localtime should be linked to a file in /usr/share/zoneinfo that
 corresponds to your local time.
 
 
 Dave Nebinger wrote:
 
 What is /etc/localtime linked to?
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] mod_jk ebuild?

2005-03-03 Thread Daniel Westermann-Clark
On 2005-03-03 12:53:36 -0500, Covington, Chris wrote:
 Is there an ebuild for mod_jk now that mod_jk2 is unsupported?

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19094

I've successfully used the 1.2.6 ebuild, but haven't tried 1.2.8 yet.
Add it to your overlay and give it a try.

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