Re: [gentoo-user] Strange errors when posting to gentoo-user
Yes. The mail server at gaznet.co.uk is obviously not delivering messages to ndc38841 for some reason. Because of this, it's sending a message to the original sender of the message (AKA, anyone that posts to the list). Very annoying. I hope it is fixed by now. fire-eyes wrote: I'm getting this error when I post to gentoo-user, though my posts are making it. Anyone else get this? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:10:06 +0100 (Mon, 18:10 EST) This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo sources
The archived sources (afaik) for installed (and probably downloaded sources as well) programs are stored in /usr/portage/distfiles. This includes all patches to the application as well. Digby Tarvin wrote: This is a question from somebody who is just testing the water with the gentoo distribution.. probably basic, but I couldn't see the answer in the documentation or faq so... First some background - I am a long time user of the BSD/OS flavour of BSD Unix (since the days when Minix was the only open source *nix), and over the last 2-3 years have dabbled with Red Hat and SuSE Linux distributions because of the better hardware support and availability of 3rd party software like vmware... However I was not keen on the Microsoft style GUI based system install and administration used in both distros, which seemed to assume that the packager knew best, and the user doesn't need to understand what is going on 'under the hood'. I also missed my readily available sourcode on my BSD system. The Linux distros did not default to loading the source onto the disk, and when sources were installed, I did not find it simple or intuitive to locate them and know how to rebuild my binaries from them. On my BSD system, if I wanted to find the source for /usr/bin/foo, I knew I could just 'cd /usr/src/usr.bin/foo' and that was the directory containing the source. To rebuild everything related to that application, I just typed 'make' in that directory... I liked what I had heard about gentoo being built from source, implying that the source for every binary on the system should be accessible. However after going through the install process, the only sources which I can find in an expected place are the kernel sources. So the question is, how to I go about making sure that the sources that my system is built from reside on my disk, and how do I find them? I really want to be able to access the source whenever I want (it is the only way I find to work around the often incomplete documentation on Linux systems) not just when I have an Internet connection available. After all, the only reason I really want to sit around and wait for a compile and build everytime I install a new package is so that I can be sure that the binary I am running corresponds to the source that I have. Regards, DigbyT -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Naive question
I believe that they are the default settings even after customization, /etc/make.conf just overrides them. If you didn't have USE flags in there, than nothing would be declared, but there are default USE flags put into use, and you can do your customization based on them (disabling what Gentoo has enabled in the profile), etc. Dave Nebinger wrote: Take a look at the contents of /etc/make.profile. There's really not much in there outside of (from what I can see) files containing use flags and package masks. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it was the default values used to construct the base system from your initial install, whether 2004.3 or 2005.1. As all of these files are typically changed as your gentoo system becomes customized (i.e. you edit your /etc/make.conf and files in /etc/portage), I doubt these are used for much. The real question is why do you care what profile your gentoo system was built from? If you've been doing the standard "emerge --sync" and "emerge -uD world", you've already got a system that's beyond whatever the initial 2005.1 profile represents. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Where is (and how do I read) root's mail?
I believe the application you're looking for is mailx, "The /bin/mail program". It is in portage. I think messages are stores in /var/mail, don't take my word for it though. On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 12:11:56 -0800, darren kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > quoth the ME: > > Hi, > > > > I feel a bit dumb here. > > > > On my Redhat systems, when I open a root shell and have the message "You > > have new mail in /root", I just type "mail" and there I am reading the > > messages on the command line. > > > > With Gentoo, I get the "You have new mail..." message, but I don't have > > the proper application to read it (and do not know what to emerge). > > > > Moreover, I am not able to find the messages! I looked under /root, > > under /var and did not find any (I might just be missing them, but I > > suspect they are not getting where they should). > > > > Can anyone let me know what to install / setup to get this going? > > BTW, I have installed metalog for system logger, if that matters. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Marc > > Well, to put in my 2cents, what I do is edit the /etc/mail/aliases file so > that root's mail resolves to my normal user account and read it there... > > Why screw around with two different clients just to read your cron report? > -d > -- > darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org > "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." > - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 > > > -- Steven Susbauer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Location of sources for bootstraping
Check out /var/tmp/portage, I believe it's where the sources are unpacked and where the original compiled image is stored. Zbynek Houska wrote: Dirk Raeder píše v Út 01. 03. 2005 v 09:10 +0100: IIRC, they should be in /usr/portage/distfiles - like all sources. Not im my case, directory /usr/portage/distfiles doesn't exist at all (as system has been bootstrapped) bash-2.05b# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ROOT 1.9G 873M 953M 48% / I just think that's too much for bare instalation, i.e. after emerge system. - -- Dirk Raeder Zbynek -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Unsubscribe
For your information, this is NOT how to Unsubscribe. Sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is likely to get more of a response. Alex Howells wrote: -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Reply-To: header seems broken-- OT question stimulated by this thread
http://www.acronymfinder.com/ - Has quite a few Dennis Taylor wrote: Do we have an acronym list so that those of us who have been out of circulation for a few years could find out what things like MUA mean? Many of them I can guess, and some I remember from years ago, but I have recently seen many that leave me clueless. -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reply-To: header seems broken Andrea Barisani wrote: and probably leaving the old setup is the best choice since I have no time to discuss this and tell people how to configure their MUA. Anybody have the time and knowledge to write something for the docs page about basic MUA configuration for the most common MUAs in use on Gentoo (mutt, pine, KMail, Thunderbird/MozMail)? That way, both the admin and the users could be comfortable. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Reply-To: header seems broken-- OT question stimulated by this thread
Sites such as http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/ or wikipedia are usually pretty good at showing acronym definitions. FYI, It's Mail User Agent. Dennis Taylor wrote: Do we have an acronym list so that those of us who have been out of circulation for a few years could find out what things like MUA mean? Many of them I can guess, and some I remember from years ago, but I have recently seen many that leave me clueless. -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reply-To: header seems broken Andrea Barisani wrote: and probably leaving the old setup is the best choice since I have no time to discuss this and tell people how to configure their MUA. Anybody have the time and knowledge to write something for the docs page about basic MUA configuration for the most common MUAs in use on Gentoo (mutt, pine, KMail, Thunderbird/MozMail)? That way, both the admin and the users could be comfortable. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
Would Vanilla steps require Gentoo making some decisions for the user? Which kernel to use, how to build it, which boot loader and cron daemon, which logger, etc wouldn't that ruin the whole "Gentoo is all about choices" routine? A1ex wrote: A1ex wrote: I'm trying to install Gentoo from a UniversalCD using the instructions found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2004.3/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=5 and I must say the instructions could use some editing. The instructions in section 5 for installing from the UniversalCD are so intertangled with those for downloading that it's very difficult to follow them. There are sections that are labelled for CD installation but they seem to bump into download instructions. I prefer to download and install packages after I have a basic Linux system installed.and working. I'm sure it would help others like me who aren't experts if the two methods were separated into two distinct sections that don't switch back and forth between the CD and download procedures. Are instructions available that describe how to do everything from CD without sliding into the download procedure?. alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list It's not just a matter of skipping section 5c if you don't need networking.. Other sections include diversions toward networking.and other options that aren't needed for a basic gentoo installation. The theme of the instructions is about allowing you to choose options during the installation. Well, what about an option where you can do a default installation from the start where all you'd need to do is set the partitions just to get a basic gentoo installed and working and then do the customizing? What's the advantage of requiring you to make critical decisions during installation where a poor choice can result in a defective installation?And what is so good about getting on line during installation to get the latest version of something when it can be done after gentoo is installed? Someone is going to say you can do a basic installation from the instructions as they are now and it's just a matter of skipping certain steps.. No one is disputing that. So, how about a list of all the steps that can be skipped to install a basic gentoo or better yet, instructions that skip those steps and don't involve getting online to achieve the same result? Even better, an option for a default installation, minus customizing options except partitioning, for a plain vanilla gentoo. alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: big problems on boot
FYI, linking wouldn't make a difference because the problem happens before /usr/lib (and thus the link) is usable. Copying the library to /lib would fix it. Luke Albers wrote: On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 23:19 -0500, Luke Albers wrote: ok, the first problem seems to be after it says it will remount root filesystem read-write. the next message is the one about awk and libexpat.so.0: error loading shared libraries I take this back. It looks like its right after some udev stuff that it says this the first time. Something about "udevsend", but it went by too quickly to get it all. I tried linking /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 into /lib, but this made no difference -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: big problems on boot
There is I known issue with gawk compiled with xml support (see http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-user&m=110839477209075&w=2 ). Try booting from LiveCD, chrooting, and doing `USE="-xml" emerge gawk` - It may be your problem. Luke Albers wrote: On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 23:19 -0500, Luke Albers wrote: ok, the first problem seems to be after it says it will remount root filesystem read-write. the next message is the one about awk and libexpat.so.0: error loading shared libraries I take this back. It looks like its right after some udev stuff that it says this the first time. Something about "udevsend", but it went by too quickly to get it all. I tried linking /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 into /lib, but this made no difference -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
And thus add to the confusion of which manual to use (there's what, four already?) as well as adding more maintance? I think it'd be better to just print out the "Printable Manual" and learn how to use tar, if you need to be networkless. The problem is, Gentoo is not the best used software without a network. You're stuck with whatever precompiled packages are on the packages cd, and then there's nothing. If you know how to cross compile, then I'm also assuming you would know how to untar the file without having to download it first. FYI: It is not that hard to install either way, you still end up untarring a file, only in the case of the Universal CD, the source archive is in a different location... On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 04:29:07 +0100, Bèr Kessels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Op zaterdag 12 februari 2005 21:00, schreef darren kirby: > > Dude, how hard is it to skip section 5c? Right at the bottom of sect. 5b is > > a clickable link that will skip it for you > > Its not just about skipping sections. I second (as a newbie) that the install > instructions are very network oriented, and that a separate manual for non > network installs would greatly improve readability for both network and > non-network installs > > Regards, > Bèr > -- > [ Bèr Kessels | Drupal services www.webschuur.com ] > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Steven Susbauer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] intermitent hang at shutdown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Try adding "[*] Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off", i've had instances where this being disabled would not turn off the machine... rodrigo ahumada wrote: > El vie, 11-02-2005 a las 14:17 -0800, Steven Susbauer escribió: > >>Make sure you enable "Use APM to turn off power (or something close >>to it) in the APM settings, and also make sure "Enable APM at boot" >>is selected. I've had it just sit there after a reboot if they >>aren't on. >> > > > thanks, really fast!! > well, now this what i got in "APM": > <*> APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS support > [ ] Ignore USER SUSPEND > [*] Enable PM at boot time > [ ] Make CPU Idle calls when idle > [ ] Enable console blanking using APM > [ ] RTC stores time in GMT > [ ] Allow interrupts during APM BIOS calls > [ ] Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off > > recompiled, and at the first try to shutdown with sudo i got the > freeze. > > these are the rules on visudo: > %shutdown ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/poweroff > %shutdown ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/reboot > rootALL=(ALL) ALL > > i don't know if it's normal but when i run sudo /sbin/poweroff, the > X session is not the first in been terminated, it doesn't turn off > like other distros... > > PS: maybe this have something to do with, i installed gnome, and > choosed logout_prompt=true, but when i choose reboot/shutdown in > the gnome-panel menu, always it come back to gdm. Kde with Kdm work > ok (and also has no problem with the shutdown). > > thanks,anyway > > > > > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > - -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com Comment: Keyserver: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ iQA/AwUBQg2et9Ru81vBONZbEQKlsQCgwTfAAqQ67P7+vNAY1TdyikNnwWcAoI/2 CyITUg5bP0HVFHwJfu5XXD9W =q/eO -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] intermitent hang at shutdown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Make sure you enable "Use APM to turn off power (or something close to it) in the APM settings, and also make sure "Enable APM at boot" is selected. I've had it just sit there after a reboot if they aren't on. rodrigo ahumada wrote: > hi, this one is for a little problem i'm having: >1/5 reboots/poweroffs doesn't shutdown the computer. > > info: >gentoo stage1 >kernels: >gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.10r6 compiled with and without acpi > support, with apm >linux-2.6.10 from kernel.org without acpi, with apm >udev and hal >mb: asus a7nv266-vm > > i run sudo /sbin/poweroff or sudo /sbin/reboot, and wait for all > services to stop, after a while the screen goes black and spect the > kb leds to blink and a reboot/shutdown <==this part some times > fails, the pc stays turned on without activity (the red light of > the HD is off). I don't know if it's going to shutdown anytime but > it takes many time and i hit the button. > > this happen with the 3 kernels,mainly with sudo, with/out hal, i've > never had one with root account or gdm, maybe because i use fluxbox > so i use sudo to restart. > > in /var/log/everything/current, the last lines before shutdown: > > Feb 7 17:38:42 [su(pam_unix)] session closed for user root > Feb 7 17:38:45 [sudo] rod : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/rod ; > USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/reboot > Feb 7 17:38:45 [sudo] PAM pam_putenv: delete non-existent entry; > REMOTEHOST > Feb 7 17:38:45 [PAM-env] Unknown PAM_ITEM: > Feb 7 17:38:45 [sudo] PAM pam_putenv: delete non-existent entry; > DISPLAY > Feb 7 17:38:45 [PAM-env] Unknown PAM_ITEM: > Feb 7 17:38:45 [sudo] PAM pam_putenv: delete non-existent entry; > XAUTHORITY > Feb 7 17:38:45 [init] Switching to runlevel: 6 > Feb 7 17:38:57 [xfs] terminating_ > > ...and here start a boot of linux, no errors. > > thanks in advance > > > > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > - -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com Comment: Keyserver: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ iQA/AwUBQg0vAdRu81vBONZbEQLn2wCfaHAz+KdW7S1R0byoKdx1AMzDG3sAnA88 8lzGZGQX945S3X6E3jOy5cvi =C0dq -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem Emerging World: kdelibs/kdebindings depend problem
Just did a sync, the oldest version of kdelibs in portage is kdelibs-3.3.1-r2.ebuild - and the oldest version of kdebindings in there is 3.2.0 (the one you're upgrading to) - I'd suggest totally upgrading KDE to the newest stable version (probably emerge kde would do this), then try again. (I think it's a matter of your KDE just being too old...) Kris Kerwin wrote: Hello all, I ran a emerge sync; emerge -Dup world yesterday, and got this output. The problem still persists with today's portage tree. Anyone else with this problem, or have any ideas? Thanks. Kris Kerwin PS: Please CC me in the reply so that I don't have to wade through all of the gentoo-user emails. Thanks! --- Output --- bash-2.05b# emerge -Dup world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies \ emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "~kde-base/kdelibs-3.2.0". !!! Problem with ebuild kde-base/kdebindings-3.2.0 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. !!! Depgraph creation failed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Symantic Norton Antivirus Exploit
For all you that still run Windows on the side, this is an interesting artical. Original post on ZDnet: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/0,261744,39180674,00.htm Symantic's Follow-up: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/security/Content/2005.02.08.html Seems NAV can execute viruses while trying to scan them... even more reason to switch to NOD32. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Centrino Pentium M CFLAGS
I've heard that the M is closer to the P3, but with some P4 features. Thus it'd be smart if there were an M class. Since there is not, P3 is recommended. Heinz Sporn wrote: Hi! I'm running my HP nx7000 Pentium M 1.5 GHz with CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" for almost a year now. Although some people suggested not to use -march=pentium4 this box is running a stable Gentoo for over a year now. I even use that machine to compile binary packages for the rest of my real P4s. Am Mittwoch, den 09.02.2005, 00:28 +0100 schrieb Juan Ignacio Sánchez Lara: Hello all Tomorrow I'll perform my first Gentoo install. I'll do it in a Acer 4002 WLMi Laptop (Pentium M 725, ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, Intel Wireless 2200BG). I'd like to ask for suggestions about it, specially dealing with CFLAGS. I'm printing Gentoo Handbook for fast reference, but I'll also have a working PC with Internet connection by me in case of problems ;-). First of all, I'll partition my HD with SystemRescue CD 0.2.15 and QTParted, since I'm not an experienced fdisk user and I have to resize a FAT32 partition. Then I'll be using a 2004.3 minimal Gentoo CD for the installation. I've already tested both boot on my laptop (I must disable hotplugging on SystemRescue due to a hw_random problem). Summary of my questions: :-) a) What optimizations would you use? I've heard that this version already has specific CFLAGs for Pentium M, instead of using p-III ones... b) What else should I know to success in less than two days? Please enlighten my path with your experience :-) Thanks in advance -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what is i686-pc-linunx-gnu?
No. That is telling GCC what type of box it is compiling for. It's best to leave that where it's set unless it's not an i686. Vitaly Ivanov wrote: Hello all What is meaning i686-pc-linux-gnu? Can I replase pc with server or home_router? Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: console only web browsing
Not sure if lynx supports HTTPS, I've always had problems with it... elinks also has GPM support, which again I'm not sure about in lynx. If nothing else, lynx can get you arrested (at least in the UK)... On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:29:52 -0500, Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 03 February 2005 04:11 pm, Paul Kain wrote: > Yeah- elinks is the best IMO. > > Robert Crawford > > > elinks has decent cookie support and you can use a mouse with it. > > > > On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:06:17 -0600, Kashani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I've always used lynx which seems decent enough, though annoying > > > as I expect any console web browser might be. Are any of them, w3m, > > > links, elinks, amaya, etc better interface and navigation-wise? > > > > > > kashani > > > > > > -- > > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Steven Susbauer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't UNSUBSCRIBE!!!
I'm assuming then that you sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from this dial up account? I do believe they send you a confirmation email, could you have possibly deleted it? Robert Crawford wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 01:24 pm, Douglas James Dunn wrote: if you have cable and your using a new ISP now, Besides the wasting of bandwidth on the lists part does it really matter if they keep sending email to your old isp email? Yes, it does matter, as I'm trying to setup a home network, and am having trouble with sorting out the cable ISP connections- and it's going to take awhile to complete the house wiring. I need my old dialup ISP and email as a backup, until I get the new setup successfully configured. That's why I tried to unsubscribe to the list on the old ISP, twice- unsuccessfully. I'm simply asking how that can be accomplished, other than how the gentoo list page says to do it- it doesn't work for me- they keep sending list emails to my old and unsubscribed address, filling up the inbox. In any case, surely you're not trying to tell me I shouldn't have more than one ISP and email accounts on both at the same time? If there's any wasting of bandwidth on the lists part, it's their fault, not mine- I've tried to unsubscribe, using their instructions (now multiple times). On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 19:52 -0500, Robert Crawford wrote: When I upgraded to cable, I tried to unsubscribe from my old account, which I did twice exactly like the list home page instructed. I"m keeping the old ISP a few weeks longer, but I visited it's webmail site, and I had literally gotten almost 3000 emails from this list in 2-3 weeks. I had to laborously delete them 50 at a time- took over an hour. Apparently, the method of sending the list an unsubscribe email doesn't work all the time. Any advice as to how to remedy this? The old address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone who actually is in control of this list see's this, please unsubscribe me at the above ISP, ASAP. I resubscribed with a new email and new ISP. Thanks, Robert Crawford -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox/WordPress Problem
Jim wrote: I'm a user from blogsome.com(A web hosting site for blogs which is based on WordPress), after I activated the WYSIWYG plug-in, the textarea works with some problems under my firefox, when I paste some text, images or anything else on the textarea, the following msg from firefox poped up: Unprivileged script cannot access Cut/Copy/Paste programatically for security reasons. Click OK to see a technical note at mozilla.org which shows you how to allow a script to access the clipboard. Then I clicked "OK" and followed the steps in this link: http://www.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/securityprefs.html it can't still works. Then I switch to the Source Mode, type something and switch back to the WYSIWYG Mode, I found that I couldn't type words into it anymore! It does work fine on my friend's machine(win/IE), but Firefox was a browser which recommanded by WordPress.org offically. :( Am I miss sth important? Might want to send word to wordpress that they're not compatible. This is a security feature stuck in by Mozilla, sad that the "How to allow" steps didn't work :( Just remember, it's things like this that made Firefox better than IE. I'd suggest just typing it in source mode, if you know it works. WYSIWYG is overrated anyway -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compiling *everything* as a kernel module: a compromise?
Tom Eastman wrote: Next question though... I wonder how I can work out which pieces of my kernel aren't actually being used by my hardware? That would also make me happy, removing everything that isn't actually applicable to the hardware I have. Having things as a modules means you KNOW it's not being used, coz it's not in 'lsmod'. I believe that step involves two things: 1) Understanding the output of lcpci 2) Knowing in depth what hardware you actually have For example, because I built my system from scratch and know exactly the system board and attached peripherals, I am able to configure the kernel with very few modules (I believe I use two, and the nvidia module). I do this because I know what I have (thus it's not bloated), and it saves me a slight headache of remembering which modules I needed for what. I take this to another step with lspci, which allows me to compile kernels on systems I've never touched before that still run perfectly fine without many modules (again, I think I generally use around two). There might be a few extra things that they didn't need, but on the whole I think it's kept to a minimum. -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggested Video Cards
You don't have to get that old of a card. I'm using an nvidia 5700 and it works well, and I kno people using even newer cards that work well. ATI is, for most people, painful and time consuming to set up. nVidia is, generally, much easier to install and use. Free and open video card? So are they gonna ship out in cracker jack boxes? Maybe the DRIVERS are free and open, in which case they only have the "open" part better than nVidia (though nvidia works VERY well and I don't mind it being closed). I worry also about how supported they would be in other operating systems, windows and such? I'd stick to nVidia only because it's known and works well. OpenGL too! Tres Melton wrote: I too am preparing to get a new system and have been watching the AMD64 motherboard thread with interest and thought about starting a thread on video cards. I am looking to get the most advanced card I can get that uses completely Free drivers. I've heard that there is an older Nvidia card that is well supported (4200?). OpenGL is important to me as well. There is a great interview of Timothy Miller on Kernel Trap: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4622 Tim is an avid Free Software user and a graphics card designer that works for a company that builds graphics cards for medical and air traffic control systems and has convinced his company, Tech Source, to fund the development of a completely Free and Open video card. He is hoping for a release date of June 2005 but engineering samples are supposed to be available earlier to developers of graphics systems (X, KDE, Gnome, Mplayer, etc.). When it is available I'll buy one if for no other reason than to support the project, but, until then, what is the card that the Gentoo graphics developers are using? -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] re-emerge A Whole New System + World on an exsiting system?
Just wondering if this is the method to use when you change CFLAGS or USE variables and want everything (system too?) recompiled with the new settings? Andreas Claesson wrote: The easy (and correct) way for doing what you want to do is: emerge --emptytree world This makes emerge "forget" what you have installed and the result is that all system packages and all packages mentioned in your world, including all dependencies, will be re-emerged. /Andreas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How many posts do you have saved for this mailing list?
Same, they tend to fill up my trash can though. The list archives can be found at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ or (for gentoo-user) http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user%40gentoo.org/ -Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None; I can view them all in the archives if I need. On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Ian K wrote: Im sorry if this is a violation of edicuite here, if so please tell me, and I wont do it again. If its ok though, how many messages do you have from this list? Me? 16,371 Ian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linux copy and paste
I've always just used GPM. If you drag over something it is copies, and right clicking pastes (even across multiple consoles). That is, of course, only in the console. Phil Sexton wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 10:43, Philip Nilsson wrote: On 16-01-05 17:48 -0500, Phil Sexton wrote: To copy from one app and paste to another, simply left click and swipe the text (some apps such as MC you need to use the shift key as well), switch focus to the other app, place cursor where you want the text and middle click (some apps, etc. as before). Or, some apps can use the Windows way, select text, control-c switch focus, place cursor, control V. It's much easier and faster in Linux and I work my tail off trying to copy/paste in Windows as I do it the Linux way before I figure out that I am in the popular OS. :( Oh really, I have to do ^a, [, move to the start position, enter, move to the end position, enter and then ^a, ] to paste! I don't believe I have ever used an OS that control-a wasn't "copy all". How is it that the same keystrokes can be used for both copy and paste as well? A couple of questions: 1. If control-a copies everything, don't you have to add a step of removing the unwanted portions of the text? 2. Will it work the same with the command line interface as well? In Linux, I get exactly what I want with a couple of mouse movements and clicks as I use the auto-raise auto-focus preferences in my WM. For me, it is much quicker and simpler with less editing after. -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA + Audigy 2 = Botched mixer settings?
Just to close this up I suppose, after reading some Documentation (I know, should've read before) in the kernel that clarified the different fields in the alsa mixer settings I found that "Analog" was marked as an input for many different services (one of them being Line). kmix doesn't see this as an input but that's ok, TV card now works and has sound to boot. Heinz Sporn wrote: Yeah, that is annoying. I emerged good old alsamixergui for that reason. Am Mittwoch, den 19.01.2005, 00:48 -0800 schrieb Steven Susbauer: Hello, I am running kernel 2.6.10-gentoo-r5, compiled with Alsa and the emu10k1 driver (the one in the kernel) for the Sound Blaster Audigy 2. My problem is that something with the mixer settings it botched. In alsamixer there's just a long row of volume sliders, in kmix there are no inputs. Line has a volume slider in output, but this is not where it's supposed to be (knoppix does it just fine). Is there something I can change? I need Line, Line2, Mic, etc. to be seen as inputs (mostly so I can get sound into my system from my TV card - Plugged into Line). What do I need to do to fix this rather annoying issue? -Steven -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ALSA + Audigy 2 = Botched mixer settings?
Hello, I am running kernel 2.6.10-gentoo-r5, compiled with Alsa and the emu10k1 driver (the one in the kernel) for the Sound Blaster Audigy 2. My problem is that something with the mixer settings it botched. In alsamixer there's just a long row of volume sliders, in kmix there are no inputs. Line has a volume slider in output, but this is not where it's supposed to be (knoppix does it just fine). Is there something I can change? I need Line, Line2, Mic, etc. to be seen as inputs (mostly so I can get sound into my system from my TV card - Plugged into Line). What do I need to do to fix this rather annoying issue? -Steven -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux friendly PDAs
Don't go with a Pocket PC period. They CAN talk to Linux, but it's not very easy. Andy Herrman wrote: I'm currently looking to buy a PDA and was wondering if anyone had suggestions. We use Windows with Outlook at work, so I'll need it to sync to that, but I'm also hoping it will be Linux friendly for when I'm home. Which PDAs work well with linux, and which don't? Any general suggestions for usability? Thanks! -Andy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Do not use Delivery Confirmation!
I do have gmail, I do not use gmail for more than temporary storage, and prefer to take advantage of their nice, free, secure pop. I could theoretically save the messages and read through them in the future (if need be), but it has been my experience that (with little exceptions), need hasn't been. I believe, however, that delivery confirmations wouldn't affect you anyway if you're using the web interface, being that I am using Mozilla Thunderbird, there is room for annoyance. -Steven Colin wrote: You've got Gmail, I see. I personally save all these messages. That way, when I need Gentoo help, I can search my Inbox. It's a lot faster than Googling or asking another question. -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Do not use Delivery Confirmation!
Please for the love of Linux, do not ask for confirmation for emails on this mailing list. This has not really been an issue and I would like to keep it from becoming one. It's nice to be able to hit "Delete... Delete" on threads we know nothing about rather than having to click "No, do not confirm", plus I think your Inbox might be a bit emptier. -Steven -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: GMAIL accounts
Please, this is indeed VERY off topic and has nothing to do with Gentoo in any sense (other than maybe "I can open gmail in my ebuild of firefox"). If you have gmail invites, that's great, send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - If you want gmail invites, put in your email addy at http://isnoop.net/gmailomatic.php - Lets end this rather pointless (as in, it can go on forever) thread while we're still ahead. -Steven -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
