Re: [gentoo-user] Manually specifying nameservers

2005-05-08 Thread William Kenworthy
dhcpcd overwrites a number of config files by default.  Check man
dhcpcd and add the appropriate flags to /etc/conf.d/net, then edit
your /etc/resolve.conf to add the search domains and name servers.

BillK

On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 22:40 -0400, Colin wrote:
 I have two nameservers.  DHCP detects the second one, but since I have a 
 computer acting as a gateway instead of the access point, I can't get a 
 net connection until I edit /etc/resolv.conf.
 
 I tried chmodding /etc/resolv.conf to 111, but the system re-chmodded it 
 after a test reboot.  So instead I added this to /etc/conf.d/local.start:
 echo nameserver 192.168.0.1  /etc/resolv.conf
 echo nameserver 192.168.0.254  /etc/resolv.conf
 
 Is there another way?
 
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[gentoo-user] portage dependency problem with net-nds/jxplorer-3.1_rc4

2005-05-08 Thread William H. Carlin, Jr.
For a short time I have been using net-dns/jxplorer to access an
openldap server I an tinkering around with.  When jxplorer's version
moved from 3.1_beta1 to 3.1_rc4 in portage, a whole new string of
dependencies cropped up that make no sense and must be in error.

A review of my portage logs indicates that when I initially installed
jxplorer-3.1_beta1, no other packages were required to install.

Since it is a java program, I thought that I would throw in that I am
using the blackdown 1.4.2.01 jre/jdk

Any help would be most appreciated as I have been forced to unmerge
jxplorer in order to sync/update.

Thanks.

[EXAMPLE EMERGE OF net-nds/jxplorer]
#emerge -tvp jxplorer

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies   ## ...done!
[ebuild  N] net-nds/jxplorer-3.1_rc4  -doc 3,345 kB 
[ebuild  N F  ]  dev-java/sun-dsml-bin-2.1.2_pre1  -doc 352 kB 
[ebuild  N F  ]  dev-java/javahelp-bin-2.0.02-r1  -doc 6,646 kB 
[ebuild  N]  dev-java/dom4j-1.4-r1  -doc 11,816 kB 
[ebuild  N]  www-servers/axis-1.2_rc2  -debug -doc +jikes 9,656 kB 
[ebuild  N F  ]   dev-java/sun-jimi-1.0  -doc 3,790 kB 
[ebuild  N]   dev-java/castor-0.9.5.3  -doc +jikes -source 5,432 kB 
[ebuild  N]dev-java/adaptx-0.9.13_p20041105  -doc 325 kB 
[ebuild  N] dev-java/gnu-jaxp-1.0_beta1-r1  -doc 1,613 kB 
[ebuild  N]dev-java/jdbc2-postgresql-7.3  160 kB 
[ebuild  N]dev-java/ldapsdk-4.1.7-r1  -doc 1,043 kB 
[ebuild  N] dev-java/jss-3.4  470 kB 
[ebuild  NS   ]dev-java/xerces-1.3.1-r1  -doc +jikes -source 879 kB 
[ebuild  N F  ]dev-java/jta-1.0.1  8 kB 
[ebuild  N]   dev-java/wsdl4j-1.4  -doc +jikes -source 2,587 kB 
[ebuild  NS   ]   dev-java/servletapi-2.4-r1  -doc +jikes 3,560 kB 
[ebuild  N]   dev-java/commons-httpclient-2.0.1  -doc +jikes 1,366 kB 
[ebuild  N]   dev-java/commons-discovery-0.2-r2  -doc +jikes +junit -source 
71 kB 
[ebuild  N F  ]   dev-java/sun-javamail-bin-1.3.1  -doc 2,217 kB 
[ebuild  N F  ]dev-java/sun-jaf-bin-1.0.2  -doc 348 kB 

Total size of downloads: 55,691 kB
[END OF EMERGE]

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Re: [gentoo-user] Manually specifying nameservers

2005-05-08 Thread Tim Igoe
man dhcpcd

  -R Prevents dhcpcd from replacing existing /etc/resolv.conf file.

into the /etc/conf.d/net file - Dhcp options

Tim Igoe
http://tim.igoe.me.uk

Colin wrote:

 I have two nameservers.  DHCP detects the second one, but since I have
 a computer acting as a gateway instead of the access point, I can't
 get a net connection until I edit /etc/resolv.conf.

 I tried chmodding /etc/resolv.conf to 111, but the system re-chmodded
 it after a test reboot.  So instead I added this to
 /etc/conf.d/local.start:
echo nameserver 192.168.0.1  /etc/resolv.conf
echo nameserver 192.168.0.254  /etc/resolv.conf

 Is there another way?

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[gentoo-user] udev not getting usb key

2005-05-08 Thread Antoine
Hi,
out put from dmesg gives:
...
usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71

Could someone gives me an idea on what the prob might be?
Cheers
Antoine
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[gentoo-user] Re: udev not getting usb key

2005-05-08 Thread Antoine
On 5/8/05, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 out put from dmesg gives:
 ...
 usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
 usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
 usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
 
 Could someone gives me an idea on what the prob might be?
 Cheers
 Antoine

Looks like a faulty usb key as it isn't recognised under doze either.
However, the other key (two of the same brand) gives this:

usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10
scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usb-storage: device found at 10
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
  Vendor: USB   Model: DISK Pro  Rev: 2.00
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
sda: Unit Not Ready, sense:
: Current: sense key=0x6
ASC=0x28 ASCQ=0x0
sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
sda : status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08
sd: Current: sense key=0x6
ASC=0x28 ASCQ=0x0
sda: assuming Write Enabled
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
sda: Unit Not Ready, sense:
: Current: sense key=0x6
ASC=0x28 ASCQ=0x0
sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
sda : status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08
sd: Current: sense key=0x6
ASC=0x28 ASCQ=0x0
sda: assuming Write Enabled
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
sda: Unit Not Ready, sense:
: Current: sense key=0x6
ASC=0x28 ASCQ=0x0
sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
sda : status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08
sd: Current: sense key=0x6
ASC=0x28 ASCQ=0x0
sda: assuming Write Enabled
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
 sda:end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0
Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0
Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0
ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed.
Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0
 unable to read partition table
Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
usb-storage: device scan complete

Then continues to do something for quite a while and sometimes outputs this:

SCSI device sda: 512000 512-byte hdwr sectors (262 MB)
sda: assuming Write Enabled
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
SCSI device sda: 512000 512-byte hdwr sectors (262 MB)
sda: assuming Write Enabled
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
 sda: sda1

After which i can mount it. It takes an age though. Is this likely
another hardware problem (works ok under gentoo once it finally stops
plaing around, and fine under doze)?
Any pointers welcome
Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] euse error

2005-05-08 Thread Aaron Walker
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Renat Golubchyk wrote:

readlink: too many arguments
Try `readlink --help' for more information.
/usr/bin/euse: line 199: /make.defaults: No such file or directory
readlink: too many arguments
Try `readlink --help' for more information.
/usr/bin/euse: line 199: /make.defaults: No such file or directory
readlink: too many arguments
Try `readlink --help' for more information.
readlink: too many arguments
Try `readlink --help' for more information.
ERROR: /make.defaults is not readable
 
 
 Change grep to egrep in line 157 so it looks like this:
 
 parent=$(egrep -v '(^#|^ *$)' ${curdir}/parent)

This should be fixed in the latest gentoolkit.

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[gentoo-user] OT - accented characters in OO (or kde generally) with a us keyboard

2005-05-08 Thread Antoine
Hi,
I have a us keyboard and am trying to get french é, è and others in
OO-bin (1.9.95). The help mentions something about setting the
environment var SAL_NO_DEADKEYS - whatever the hell that means (set
it to what???), and putting xkbvariants in xorg.conf. Both of those
were done (I tried setting the envvar to true, no workies) but under
kde 3.4 (at least) it doesn't work. The system is a freshly installed
gentoo ~x86.
Thanks 
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[gentoo-user] Evolution Data Server keeps reverting

2005-05-08 Thread Alex Bennee
Hi,

I had a problem starting evolution:

14:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [alex] evolution-2.2
evolution-2.2: error while loading shared libraries: libecal-1.2.so.2:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

When I checked I found that libecalc belonged to evolution-data-server.
A quick re-emerge later updates it to the latest version and everythig
is good. However I check for updates and find emerge would revert it
back to 1.0.4 if it got the chance (which explains why evolution broke):

14:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] emerge -p -v --deep --update world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild UD] gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.0.4 [1.2.1] -debug
-doc -ldap 0 kB

Both versions are ~amd64 so I don't think that is the reason. Any idea
what is causing emerge to think it wants to revert to a broken package?


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[gentoo-user] Is this a KDE split build problem, a KDE problem or just me?

2005-05-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Hey ho,

I've installed KDE 3.4.0 using the split ebuilds. Originally I did not
install kdebase-meta but just kdebase-startkde, then the extras like
kicker and kate and stuff (no Konqueror; I use Krusader and Firefox).
This did not last, as I had to install the rest of kdebase-meta when I
wanted to install kbiff, which was unfortunate, but noted in the
changelog, so fine.

KDE works and all programs are installed, but there's something very
wrong with the K-menu:

1) KControl does not appear (can be accessed using a Run box), which is
annoying and disturbing (if the KDE Control Center does not appear in
the KDE menu, something must be truly borked, imo);

2) Kate does not appear in either the menu or in the Open With menu.
If I select Kate manually (using the full path to the binary) and then
tell KDE to use it for all files of whatever type, it will remember that
Kate exists for those types of files. But it doesn't know where the icon
is, apparently (another disturbing but minor side-issue);

3) KMenuEdit does not change menu entries (the app runs, but any changes
I make to icons or menu item position are not reflected in the menu
itself, even after a reboot. And yes, I did of course save my changes,
and the the system configuration is being updated dialog did appear
and supposedly did its job);

4) KDE Mime-type editor will not allow me to edit entries (I went to
text-plain and tried to edit the Kate entry to see if I could associate
the icon; kcontrol froze and had to be killed).

Is anyone else seeing any of this? I certainly didn't see issues like
this under SuSE 9.3 with KDE 3.4, but then again SuSE tweaks madly, so
it *could* be a KDE thing. Or it could be a split build thing (something
not installed, making communication between the parts of KDE difficult).

Or it could just be that I did something completely wrong somehow--
after all, I managed to break GNOME again and I don't know how I did
that, either.

Any suggestions to point me in a direction so that I could
fix/troubleshoot whatever has gone wrong here would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Holly


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[gentoo-user] SLOTS and Cedega

2005-05-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Hi all,

Those of you that use Cedega probably know that some versions work
better with some games than others.

I'm wondering how to install multiple versions simultaneously, via
Portage, without having them stomp all over each other.

Yes, I could use Point2Play, but that seems to cause more problems than
it solves much of the time, and I would rather avoid it. I am also
trying to keep as much of the Wine things as possible in one family
(either WINE or Cedega, I really don't want to have to keep track of
what's running under which any given month. One time through the WINE
and TG databases and Wikis and forums was quite enough for now).

As I see it, there are two issues of concern:

1) SLOTS

2) binary name

Now for WineX v3 and WineX ver2 this is not so much of a problem,
because WineX 2.2.1 (needed for Planescape:Torment, as this is the only
version it runs under) a) actually has its own SLOT (2.2.1), and b) uses
a unique binary name (winex, whereas WineX 3.3.2 uses the binary name
winex3).

However, all versions of WineX 3 and Cedega use the same SLOT (3) and
of course, all versions of cedega use the same binary name (cedega).

So here's my question; if I:

1) edit the ebuilds for the Wine versions I want to use to give them
unique SLOTS (by version number)

2) unpack and repack the *.tgz packages to make sure that a) the files
install into unique directories under /usr/lib (only a problem for
multiple versions of Cedega itself; WineX v2 and WineX v3 install into
unique directories under /usr/lib) and b) the binaries have a unique
name (again only a problem for multiple versions of Cedega, basically
I'd just add the verion to anything other than the latest)

3) move the edited ebuilds to my OVERLAY and redigest them

that should do it, yes? Have I missed or forgotten anything?

And is this b.g.o-worthy? I really don't think that WineX 3 and Cedega
should use the same SLOT-- at the very least Cedega should use SLOT 4,
leaving SLOT 3 for WineX 3-- and by preference I'd rather that they all
used a version-based slot like 2.2.1 does, since it's really not
unreasonable that I might want to install several versions of Wine
X/Cedega until such time as TG gets it together and stops breaking stuff
that used to work in the name of getting the 'next big thing' to work.

Just doing a double-check before I give this a shot; thanks for any
suggestions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution Data Server keeps reverting

2005-05-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Alex Bennee wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I had a problem starting evolution:
 
 14:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [alex] evolution-2.2
 evolution-2.2: error while loading shared libraries: libecal-1.2.so.2:
 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 
 When I checked I found that libecalc belonged to evolution-data-server.
 A quick re-emerge later updates it to the latest version and everythig
 is good. However I check for updates and find emerge would revert it
 back to 1.0.4 if it got the chance (which explains why evolution broke):
 
 14:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] emerge -p -v --deep --update world
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild UD] gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.0.4 [1.2.1] -debug
 -doc -ldap 0 kB
 
 Both versions are ~amd64 so I don't think that is the reason. Any idea
 what is causing emerge to think it wants to revert to a broken package?

There could be a couple of reasons reasons:

1) you're running a amd64 system (~amd64 is not set in /etc/make.conf),
and you've installed evolution-data-server with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS instead
of with an entry in /etc/portage/package.keywords;

2) something else is installed that depends on the earlier version of
evo-data-server and must downgrade evo-data-server to the version it can
use.



For 1), add

gnome-extra/evolution-data-server ~amd64

to /etc/portage/package.keywords



For 2) instead of emerge -upDv, try

emerge -upDtv

to get a tree view of what is trying to downgrade evo-data-server.
Perhaps that program needs to be updated to an unstable version that
will accept the higher version of evo-data-server.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is this a KDE split build problem, a KDE problem or just me?

2005-05-08 Thread Dmitri Vassilenko
On Sunday May 8 2005 09:54, Holly Bostick wrote:
 1) KControl does not appear
 2) Kate does not appear in either the menu or in the Open With menu
 3) KMenuEdit does not change menu entries
 4) KDE Mime-type editor will not allow me to edit entries

There are several posts about this on the forums.

$ cp -R /usr/kde/3.4/etc/xdg/menus /etc/xdg/menus

Gnome 2.10 overwrites those files messing up the KDE menu/settings. The above 
command restored many broken things for me.

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] scsi tape support with live cd 2005

2005-05-08 Thread patrick . marquetecken
Hi,

I can't get my scsi tape drive to work with the live cd 2005.
I would like to backup my system to a tape for backup, now its to disk both 
way's would be nice.

Patrick


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[gentoo-user] compling errors with xosview and canna

2005-05-08 Thread askar ...
Hello.

I had probles to compile 2 things canna and xosview.
When I was compiling canna I had error (here I put only last part of message):
CC=i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
CFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -fno-strict-aliasing
./configure --prefix=/usr
checking for gcc... i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error:
C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.
make[1]: *** [accanna.h] Error 77
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/canna-3.7_p2/work/Canna37p2'
make: *** [canna] Error 2

!!! ERROR: app-i18n/canna-3.7_p2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 41, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

and when I compiled xosview, error message was:

...
configure: WARNING: iostream: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: iostream: check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: iostream: proceeding with the preprocessor's result
configure: WARNING: ##  ##
configure: WARNING: ## Report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
configure: WARNING: ##  ##
checking for iostream... yes
checking fstream usability... no
checking fstream presence... yes
configure: WARNING: fstream: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: fstream: check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: fstream: proceeding with the preprocessor's result
configure: WARNING: ##  ##
configure: WARNING: ## Report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
configure: WARNING: ##  ##
...
   unsigned int, const char*, ...)' here
make: *** [Xrm.o] Error 1

!!! ERROR: x11-misc/xosview-1.8.2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 29, Exitcode 2
!!! compilation failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


Is there a way to fix such kind of errors?..

askar

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[gentoo-user] I big problem with compilations (s

2005-05-08 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
I am having this problem for 4 days now, I believe I made a sin by
changing my CHOST from pentium3 to i686 :( ..  every now and then  I
am having this kind of message

//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No
such file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file
or directory
libtool: link:
`//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la' is not a
valid libtool archive


I already tryed all, I tryed:

fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5
fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch pentium3-pc-linux-gnu

What more can I do ?

please I am hopeless at this point ;(

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Re: [gentoo-user] I big problem with compilations (s

2005-05-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Allan Spagnol Comar schreef:
 I am having this problem for 4 days now, I believe I made a sin by
 changing my CHOST from pentium3 to i686 :( ..  every now and then  I
 am having this kind of message
 
 //usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No
 such file or directory
 /bin/sed: can't read
 //usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file
 or directory
 libtool: link:
 `//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la' is not a
 valid libtool archive
 
 
 I already tryed all, I tryed:
 
 fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5
 fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch pentium3-pc-linux-gnu
 
 What more can I do ?

You can re-emerge libtool. Sometimes that works when fix_libtool_files
does not. You could also try re-emerging libstdc++-v3 as well.

I suspect there might be more you should (have) re-compile(d) after
making a change to CHOST, but I've never done that, so I couldn't say
what more you might need to re-emerge for stability's sake.

I do feel we just talked about this issue on the list not too long ago,
though, so you might want to check the archives for the past two weeks
or so and see if there are any tips to be found.

 
 please I am hopeless at this point ;(
 

Then I hope this helps :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] This email best viewed with IE 6.5 at 800X600 resolution

2005-05-08 Thread Calvin Spealman
1) I don't see how this should have anything to do with Microsoft, it
should be a free and open standard.
2) If you are going 20, 15, or even only 5 years without upgrading
your software, then you deserve to be the victim of every single
exploit and hole discoved in that software and patched within that
time, if you couldn't be bothered to do a simple upgrade.

On 5/7/05, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:56:09PM +, Calvin Spealman wrote
 
  then support for it can grow until everyone will have updated just
  over time. once you know someone's reader has support for it, because
  they send you emails using it, you can send to them without the old
  inline-quoted version.
 
   AGGH   NNNOOO!!
 
   You know what we'll end up with???  This email best viewed with
 Internet Explorer 6.5 at 800X600 resolution and 16,000,000 with Active-X
 and Schlockwave-Trash enabled.  I do *NOT* want to have to go out and
 buy Windows in order to be able to read email.
 
   Secondly, I can read today's text email with a 15 or 20 year old email
 client.  (X)HTML doesn't work that way.  It's always changing.  Try
 reading most web pages with a 5-year-old browser and see what I mean.  I
 should *NOT* have to change my email client every few months to keep up
 with deliberate incompatabilities thrown in by Microsoft.
 
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[gentoo-user] Blue video playback

2005-05-08 Thread Calvin Spealman
This happens a lot. Currently, video playback using anything other
than glmovie results in a blue screen. Audio plays fine on the videos,
however. Usually when this happens, the only thing that fixes it are a
few 'emerge world' sessions. I don't know what package is causing it,
because its affecting multiple players. Does anyone know of some
central movie playing library, perhaps, that could be doing this? It
happens no matter what the format of the file is.

I want to look into the matter further, but I've run out of ideas for
where to look.

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[gentoo-user] Ximian Evolution Connector - Evolution Development Libraries not found

2005-05-08 Thread Ow Mun Heng
Hi,

I'm trying to upgrade my current desktop from Gnome 2.8 to gnome 2.10
(under VMware clean install before I take the plunge)

I think everything is working OK except for the fact that
Ximian-connector isn't working.

Evo is 2.2.1.1 and it works, but even though ximian connector is emerged
(emerge -k from my existing install) it doesn't work.

I then tried to emerge it directly (without using the binary but to
compile it again from source/ebuild) and then I came across this error 

configure ... evolution development libraries not installed.

I tried googling and searching gentoo bugs/forums and found nothing.

Can anyone tell me what is the development libraries?

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Re: [gentoo-user] I big problem with compilations (s

2005-05-08 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Holly Bostick wrote:

Allan Spagnol Comar schreef:
  

I am having this problem for 4 days now, I believe I made a sin by
changing my CHOST from pentium3 to i686 :( ..  every now and then  I
am having this kind of message

//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No
such file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file
or directory
libtool: link:
`//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la' is not a
valid libtool archive


I already tryed all, I tryed:

fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5
fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch pentium3-pc-linux-gnu

What more can I do ?



You can re-emerge libtool. Sometimes that works when fix_libtool_files
does not. You could also try re-emerging libstdc++-v3 as well.

I suspect there might be more you should (have) re-compile(d) after
making a change to CHOST, but I've never done that, so I couldn't say
what more you might need to re-emerge for stability's sake.

I do feel we just talked about this issue on the list not too long ago,
though, so you might want to check the archives for the past two weeks
or so and see if there are any tips to be found.

  

please I am hopeless at this point ;(




Then I hope this helps :)

Holly
  

Hi, I had re-emerge libtool, but still having the problem... I tryed to
emerge libstdc++-v3 but is a masked package and I don know how to do
it... So I am think to symbolic link the i686 to the pentium3  and
see what happens ..

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Re: [gentoo-user] This email best viewed with IE 6.5 at 800X600 resolution

2005-05-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Calvin Spealman schreef:
 1) I don't see how this should have anything to do with Microsoft, it
 should be a free and open standard.

ROFL! Yeah, so should text documents, but as soon as I do any simple
formatting to it (oh, no, not bold text!!!), it's not so free and open
anymore (*.rtf, *.doc). As soon as you have any standard that's used
by more that 3 people (making it mass usage), Microsoft *is* involved,
and you can't just blow that off like it's not the reality that most
every computer user has find some way to live with.

 2) If you are going 20, 15, or even only 5 years without upgrading
 your software, then you deserve to be the victim of every single
 exploit and hole discoved in that software and patched within that
 time, if you couldn't be bothered to do a simple upgrade.

Right, because I control every single email client I might ever use.
Suppose I travel a lot for business-- I can't make the hotel or Internet
cafe upgrade.

Suppose I use a company-provided laptop for business and I have no
rights to install or upgrade software. Suppose those responsible for
upgrading the software on my company-provided laptop are slackers, and
it's just all-around better to not submit the forms required to get an
upgrade authorized, since I would then lose the use of the laptop (and
probably have to use an even worse loaner) for 1.5 months just to get
this non-essential upgrade.

*Suppose I live in an underdeveloped country* and I'm lucky to have a
donated 486 that someone richer than me gave to the Peace Corps.

In that case, I may not even have the option to upgrade, as my hardware
doesn't support the upgrade. And there are a lot of people who don't
have good Internet access, so are really limited to whatever software is
on the CD that they got-- if they got a CD at all and the donating
facility didn't just pre-install the PC in the first place.

Really, think. Every single person in the world does not have the
advantages or capabilities that you do-- isn't that punishment enough
without you 1) blaming them further (it's their fault if they don't
upgrade) and 2) preventing them from becoming better human beings (sic)
by way of your deathless wisdom (sic) by making that wisdom unavailable
to them because you *must* disseminate that wisdom in a format that they
cannot access?

Holly

 
 On 5/7/05, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:56:09PM +, Calvin Spealman wrote


then support for it can grow until everyone will have updated just
over time. once you know someone's reader has support for it, because
they send you emails using it, you can send to them without the old
inline-quoted version.

  AGGH   NNNOOO!!

  You know what we'll end up with???  This email best viewed with
Internet Explorer 6.5 at 800X600 resolution and 16,000,000 with Active-X
and Schlockwave-Trash enabled.  I do *NOT* want to have to go out and
buy Windows in order to be able to read email.

  Secondly, I can read today's text email with a 15 or 20 year old email
client.  (X)HTML doesn't work that way.  It's always changing.  Try
reading most web pages with a 5-year-old browser and see what I mean.  I
should *NOT* have to change my email client every few months to keep up
with deliberate incompatabilities thrown in by Microsoft.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is this a KDE split build problem, a KDE problem or just me?

2005-05-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Dmitri Vassilenko schreef:
 On Sunday May 8 2005 09:54, Holly Bostick wrote:
 
1) KControl does not appear
2) Kate does not appear in either the menu or in the Open With menu
3) KMenuEdit does not change menu entries
4) KDE Mime-type editor will not allow me to edit entries
 
 
 There are several posts about this on the forums.
 
 $ cp -R /usr/kde/3.4/etc/xdg/menus /etc/xdg/menus
 
 Gnome 2.10 overwrites those files messing up the KDE menu/settings. The above 
 command restored many broken things for me.
 
 Cheers,
 Dmitri

Thanks, Dmitri-- I always check b.g.o and forget to check the forums.

Anyway, your tip didn't help me (though it's good to know), but I did
find something on the forums that did (thanks, vipernicus!):

I put in a bug report about a month ago on this, still no response. So
far the only thing I know of that you can do to fix this (though it will
kill your gnome menu) is to do a:

root# mv /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu /etc/xdg/menus/gapplications.menu
and your KDE Menu will be back to normal

and when you want to use gnome menus again:
root# mv /etc/xdg/menus/gapplications.menu /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu
and your Gnome Menu will be back to normal

It's annoying, but it works.

Since my GNOME is already broken, I don't so much care that the GNOME
menus are broken as well, and this did restore my KDE menu to standard.

Guess I'll have to resign myself to being a KDE convert. At least it
works. :(

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] euse error

2005-05-08 Thread Pere Gentoo
Thanks,


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Re: [gentoo-user] Blue video playback

2005-05-08 Thread Andreas Karlsson
On Sunday 08 May 2005 17.57, Calvin Spealman wrote:
 This happens a lot. Currently, video playback using anything other
 than glmovie results in a blue screen. Audio plays fine on the videos,
 however. Usually when this happens, the only thing that fixes it are a
 few 'emerge world' sessions. I don't know what package is causing it,
 because its affecting multiple players. Does anyone know of some
 central movie playing library, perhaps, that could be doing this? It
 happens no matter what the format of the file is.

 I want to look into the matter further, but I've run out of ideas for
 where to look.

Hi,

I have the same problem. I am using a Nvidia Geforce 4 for TV-out on one box. 
According to the forums 
(http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-230451-highlight-blue+border+video+nvidia.html)
 
you can issue this: 

/usr/bin/xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 66048

Haven´t tested it my self as I am to lazy :). 

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Re: [gentoo-user] I big problem with compilations (s

2005-05-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Allan Spagnol Comar schreef:
 Holly Bostick wrote:
 
 
Allan Spagnol Comar schreef:
 


I am having this problem for 4 days now, I believe I made a sin by
changing my CHOST from pentium3 to i686 :( ..  every now and then  I
am having this kind of message

//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No
such file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file
or directory
libtool: link:
`//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la' is not a
valid libtool archive


I already tryed all, I tryed:

fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5
fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch pentium3-pc-linux-gnu

What more can I do ?
   


You can re-emerge libtool. Sometimes that works when fix_libtool_files
does not. You could also try re-emerging libstdc++-v3 as well.

snip


 
 Hi, I had re-emerge libtool, but still having the problem... I tryed to
 emerge libstdc++-v3 but is a masked package and I don know how to do
 it... So I am think to symbolic link the i686 to the pentium3  and
 see what happens ..
 


OK, I'm confused.

Your error says that

//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la' is not a
valid libtool archive

But if it's masked, you don't even have it installed, which would
explain why it's not found, nor is a valid archive-- it's not there!

Now, according to esearch:

 sys-libs/libstdc++-v3
  Latest version available: 3.3.4
  Latest version installed: 3.3.4
  Size of downloaded files: 22,784 kB
  Homepage:http://gcc.gnu.org/libstdc++/
  Description: Compatibility package for running binaries linked
against a pre gcc 3.4 libstdc++
  License: GPL-2 LGPL-2.1



Description: Compatibility package for running binaries linked against a
pre gcc 3.4 libstdc++ .. and you are running a pre-3.4 gcc.

So it seems to me you need this installed.

I see that both versions available in Portage are stable for ppc, ppc64
and amd64, so I guess you're running an x86 system.

In that case. to unmask the package, what you'd want to do is add this
to /etc/portage/package.keywords.

First, make sure you have the /etc/portage directory. If you do, then go
to the next step. If you don't, create it (as root):

# mkdir /etc/portage

Once you have the directory, open a terminal, su to root and type

echo 'sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords

This will create the file package.keywords if it does not exist, and add
the line

sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 ~x86

to it. Or you could just open a text editor as root and add this line to
the file, if you want.

This unmasks the package in question, which should allow you to emerge
it. I don't know if that will solve your problem, though.

Hope this helps.

Holly
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[gentoo-user] Secure ssh configuration

2005-05-08 Thread Luigi Pinna
Hello to everybody!
I noticed a strange traffic to my ssh server and now I would increase 
its security side.
I would to use a double authentication system: the first a host name and 
public key authentication, and the second the normal password login.
In this moment I use only the password login...
I tried first, to install the public key system (without password) but 
my ssh server doesn't accept that configuration. 
In /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have:
...
# HostKeys for protocol version 2
HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
...
#RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes
AuthorizedKeysFile  .ssh/authorized_keys
...
 # To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here!
PasswordAuthentication yes
PermitEmptyPasswords no
# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes
...
UsePAM no
...

If I disable the password authentication, when I try to connect I 
receive the message:
Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
If it is enable, the password it's requires to me.
Can someone  help me to set it up?
Thanks,
Luigi

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Re: [gentoo-user] HOWTO Encrypt Your Home Directory Using CFS

2005-05-08 Thread Rob
Rob wrote:
Dmitri Vassilenko wrote:
On Thursday May 5 2005 16:17, rob3 wrote:
OK, I think I have an accessable draft copy of the doc at
www.gentoo-wiki.com/User:Roblytle.
It seems to be available anonymously, and editable.  I am no wiki expert
so its likely something is screwed up.  I'd like it to end up  in the
HOWTO Security and Anonymity category, but I have no idea how to do 
this.

No, it's fine. It needs to be wikified, though. We're working on a 
guide to explain this.

Meanwhile, just put {{Wikify}} somewhere and let others do the messy 
work. ;)
I'll sort it into the appropriate category soon.

Thanks,
Dmitri (Tro)

Thank you Dmitri !
Rob
Someone already put it in.  Thank you!!!
Rob.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Secure ssh configuration

2005-05-08 Thread Dominik Elsbroek
Luigi Pinna wrote:

 In /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have:
 ...
 # HostKeys for protocol version 2
 HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
 HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
 ...
 #RSAAuthentication yes
 PubkeyAuthentication yes
 AuthorizedKeysFile  .ssh/authorized_keys
 ...
  # To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here!
 PasswordAuthentication yes
I have set this to no

 PermitEmptyPasswords no
 # Change to no to disable s/key passwords
 ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes
 ...
 UsePAM no
 ...
 
 If I disable the password authentication, when I try to connect I 
 receive the message:
 Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
 If it is enable, the password it's requires to me.
 Can someone  help me to set it up?
So I am more a newb than a nerd but what have you done so far? how did you
create your keys and did you paste the public key into the
~/.ssh/authorized_keys file where the home dir must be the home dir of the user
you want to let login.
and just for testings set PasswordAuthentication to no and test again.
i kept the HostKey vars commented and everthing works fine to me.

 Thanks,
 Luigi
 

greets dominik
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[gentoo-user] Re: I big problem with compilations (s

2005-05-08 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 08 May 2005 18:52, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Allan Spagnol Comar schreef:
  Holly Bostick wrote:
[...]
  Hi, I had re-emerge libtool, but still having the problem... I
  tryed to emerge libstdc++-v3 but is a masked package and I don know
  how to do it... So I am think to symbolic link the i686 to the
  pentium3  and see what happens ..

 OK, I'm confused.

The file comes with gcc, not with libstdc++-v3 :-)

[19:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ locate libstdc++.la
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.la
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.1/libstdc++.la
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libstdc++.la
[19:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ qpkg 
-f /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.la
sys-devel/gcc *

Ciao
Francesco
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do you get OpenOffice to run?/ found no oofice executable

2005-05-08 Thread Rob
Ric de France wrote:
Rob,
On 5/8/05, rob3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I compiled OpenOffice.  It ran all day and successfully completed the
ebuild.  Now I run setup and I get hundreds of error messages.  How do I
install it?  What have I missed?

Have you just opened up a prompt (as a regular user and not root) and typed in:
$ ooffice
??
Mine will just start up a basic openoffice.org window what error
messages do you get?
...Ric
Hi Ric,
I ran slocate -u and updated my database.  Then I typed locate oofice. 
It could not be found.  So something is screwed up.  Thats why I think I 
need to run the .setup command in the /opt/OpenOffice directory.  (or 
whatever that directory is called, I'm back in Windoze)

But the first part of running .setup generates 160Mb of files in 
whatever new directory I choose, so that must be the final working 
directory which contains the oofice command.

Rob.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do you get OpenOffice to run?/ explaining the error messages

2005-05-08 Thread Rob
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
What are the messages?
On Sat, 7 May 2005, rob3 wrote:
Hi all,
I compiled OpenOffice.  It ran all day and successfully completed the
ebuild.  Now I run setup and I get hundreds of error messages.  How do I
install it?  What have I missed?
The clueless,
Rob


Hi Brett,
I get messages that say (paraphrasing)  Error, could not copy foo to 
bar directory.  I get the choice in the pop up dialog to choose between 
retry, ignore, and cancel.  Pressing the ignore button a few times ends 
up giving me about 160 meg of used space in whatever new directory I 
choose for this operation.  So it must be the final install step.  But 
after that I can press ignore a hundred times and it just keeps telling 
me that same error message over and over again, only its a different 
file each time that I press ignore.

Thanks!
Rob
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[gentoo-user] Re: How do you get OpenOffice to run?/ found no oofice executable

2005-05-08 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Monday 09 May 2005 06:17, Rob wrote:
 I ran slocate -u and updated my database.  Then I typed locate
 oofice. It could not be found.  So something is screwed up.  Thats
 why I think I need to run the .setup command in the /opt/OpenOffice
 directory.  (or whatever that directory is called, I'm back in
 Windoze)

 But the first part of running .setup generates 160Mb of files in
 whatever new directory I choose, so that must be the final working
 directory which contains the oofice command.

Write just oo, then press TAB, you will see:
oocalc oodraw ooimpress  oomath oopadmin   ootags ooweb  
oowriter

There isn't ooffice but all its components are available one by one :)

IIRC .setup isn't necessary.
Openoffice was even linked into my KDE menu... I guess that's the same 
for Gnome.

Ciao
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[gentoo-user] pppoeconf and pppstatus... How do I install them?

2005-05-08 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
Hello,

I'm on Knoppix right now and I found pppoeconf and pppstatus to be
really good. They both aren't in portage. There is an alternative to
pppstatus in portage, which I can do with. But I would really like to
use pppoeconf. How do I install it? I would want portage to recognize
that it's installed. I would have liked to write an ebuild, but I'm no
programmer... Could anyone help?

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] libgnomeui

2005-05-08 Thread Brian Beattie
I'm trying to do an emerge -u world and for about the past week it has
been failing on libgnomeui with the following error: failed to load
./stock_attach.png: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file
'./stock_attach.png'

Does anybody have a clue? hints?
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Re: [gentoo-user] I big problem with compilations (s

2005-05-08 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Kris Baker wrote:

Are you sure that that is a valid setting for CHOST ??? I haven't seen
anything about that one yet in any docs ... I just did a quick scan though

 
 
 
Kristopher W. Baker
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 


-Original Message-
From: Allan Spagnol Comar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 10:18 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] I big problem with compilations (s


I am having this problem for 4 days now, I believe I made a sin by changing
my CHOST from pentium3 to i686 :( ..  every now and then  I am having
this kind of message

//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file or
directory
/bin/sed: can't read
//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file or
directory
libtool: link: `//usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la'
is not a valid libtool archive


I already tryed all, I tryed:

fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5
fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch pentium3-pc-linux-gnu

What more can I do ?

please I am hopeless at this point ;(

  

sory I did not type the CHOST completlelly I am using i686-pc-linux-gnu
and was using pentium3-pc-linux-gnu :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I big problem with compilations (s

2005-05-08 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Francesco Talamona wrote:

On Sunday 08 May 2005 18:52, Holly Bostick wrote:
  

Allan Spagnol Comar schreef:


Holly Bostick wrote:
  

[...]
  

Hi, I had re-emerge libtool, but still having the problem... I
tryed to emerge libstdc++-v3 but is a masked package and I don know
how to do it... So I am think to symbolic link the i686 to the
pentium3  and see what happens ..
  

OK, I'm confused.



The file comes with gcc, not with libstdc++-v3 :-)

[19:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ locate libstdc++.la
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.la
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.1/libstdc++.la
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libstdc++.la
[19:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ qpkg 
-f /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.la
sys-devel/gcc *

Ciao
   Francesco
  

what is  qpkg ?? and how can I make this all works  May I should
reinstall the full system  or  don't know  there anything
more that I can do before go extreme ( snip, reinstall the system ) ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Advansys SCSI Not Available on 2005.0 LiveCD

2005-05-08 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 5/8/2005 2:48 AM neil wrote:
Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 

Try modprobe advansys to load the driver...
 

Thanks for the reply.  However been there, done that.  :)  It seems
the advansys.ko is not on the 2005.0 CD.  Maybe it's on an older one? 
And if so, which?

   

I've never seen advansys.ko. I have always used the sym53c8xx driver for
my Advansys card.
Be lucky,
Neil
 

I guess I am unlucky.  After booting I ran 'modprobe sym53c8xx'.  Then I 
checked /dev for sda  sdb which are on that card.  I saw sda and sda1 
but when I mounted, I could tell they weren't my drive.  Do I need to do 
something else?

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Re: I big problem with compilations (s

2005-05-08 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 08 May 2005 20:56, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
 [19:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ qpkg
 -f /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.la
 sys-devel/gcc *
 
 Ciao
  Francesco

 what is  qpkg ?? and how can I make this all works  May I should
 reinstall the full system  or  don't know  there anything
 more that I can do before go extreme ( snip, reinstall the system ) ?

qpkg -f file
tells you which package file belongs to; it's from 
app-portage/gentoolkit.

I was trying to say that your problem is that playing with CHOST 
(probably) hosed gcc compiler and libstdc++-v3 is a different matter.

What is the output of gcc-config -l ?

As a last resort you can mount the system in a chroot (like an install) 
and extract a sane gcc from a stage3. Maybe someone else in this list 
has a better idea...

Ciao
Francesco


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Re: [gentoo-user] Howl build error

2005-05-08 Thread Roy O. Wright
I had the same problem.  I used the latest masked version of howl and 
got around it.

HTH,
Roy
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Re: [gentoo-user] Blue video playback

2005-05-08 Thread Calvin Spealman
Its a builtin card, so I'm not sure of the exact model but here is the
output from lspci:
:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL
[Brookdale-G] Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
I'm using the i915 driver compiled into the kernel.

On 5/8/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Calvin Spealman schreef:
  This happens a lot. Currently, video playback using anything other
  than glmovie results in a blue screen. Audio plays fine on the videos,
  however. Usually when this happens, the only thing that fixes it are a
  few 'emerge world' sessions. I don't know what package is causing it,
  because its affecting multiple players. Does anyone know of some
  central movie playing library, perhaps, that could be doing this? It
  happens no matter what the format of the file is.
 
  I want to look into the matter further, but I've run out of ideas for
  where to look.
 
 
 It might be useful to know what video card you have and what drivers
 you're using.
 
 Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] This email best viewed with IE 6.5 at 800X600 resolution

2005-05-08 Thread Calvin Spealman
I don't understand why people get so defensive over these kinds of
ideas. Upgrades aren't evil. If someone complained about a bug, the
first thing you'd do is tell them to upgrade to the newest version.
And I did suggest the multipart protocols to be used, unless you knew
the capabilities of the recipient. And, no, MS does not have to be
involved. There are plenty of standards they act like they don't even
know about!

I'm tired of everyone being so blatently rude in their defensive
stances over simple suggestions of improvement. For some reason, I've
noticed these actions move prevalently in regards to email protocols
and formats. The W3C wants to release a new version of HTML? No one
complains (mostly). Someone wants to create a new e-mail standard, or
expand an existing one? Off with their heads!

Going by the way everyone reacts to these ideas, one would come to the
conclusion that we should all still run nothing but command lines and
pass our information around on FTP and Gopher servers.

On 5/8/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Calvin Spealman schreef:
  1) I don't see how this should have anything to do with Microsoft, it
  should be a free and open standard.
 
 ROFL! Yeah, so should text documents, but as soon as I do any simple
 formatting to it (oh, no, not bold text!!!), it's not so free and open
 anymore (*.rtf, *.doc). As soon as you have any standard that's used
 by more that 3 people (making it mass usage), Microsoft *is* involved,
 and you can't just blow that off like it's not the reality that most
 every computer user has find some way to live with.
 
  2) If you are going 20, 15, or even only 5 years without upgrading
  your software, then you deserve to be the victim of every single
  exploit and hole discoved in that software and patched within that
  time, if you couldn't be bothered to do a simple upgrade.
 
 Right, because I control every single email client I might ever use.
 Suppose I travel a lot for business-- I can't make the hotel or Internet
 cafe upgrade.
 
 Suppose I use a company-provided laptop for business and I have no
 rights to install or upgrade software. Suppose those responsible for
 upgrading the software on my company-provided laptop are slackers, and
 it's just all-around better to not submit the forms required to get an
 upgrade authorized, since I would then lose the use of the laptop (and
 probably have to use an even worse loaner) for 1.5 months just to get
 this non-essential upgrade.
 
 *Suppose I live in an underdeveloped country* and I'm lucky to have a
 donated 486 that someone richer than me gave to the Peace Corps.
 
 In that case, I may not even have the option to upgrade, as my hardware
 doesn't support the upgrade. And there are a lot of people who don't
 have good Internet access, so are really limited to whatever software is
 on the CD that they got-- if they got a CD at all and the donating
 facility didn't just pre-install the PC in the first place.
 
 Really, think. Every single person in the world does not have the
 advantages or capabilities that you do-- isn't that punishment enough
 without you 1) blaming them further (it's their fault if they don't
 upgrade) and 2) preventing them from becoming better human beings (sic)
 by way of your deathless wisdom (sic) by making that wisdom unavailable
 to them because you *must* disseminate that wisdom in a format that they
 cannot access?
 
 Holly
 
 
  On 5/7/05, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:56:09PM +, Calvin Spealman wrote
 
 
 then support for it can grow until everyone will have updated just
 over time. once you know someone's reader has support for it, because
 they send you emails using it, you can send to them without the old
 inline-quoted version.
 
   AGGH   NNNOOO!!
 
   You know what we'll end up with???  This email best viewed with
 Internet Explorer 6.5 at 800X600 resolution and 16,000,000 with Active-X
 and Schlockwave-Trash enabled.  I do *NOT* want to have to go out and
 buy Windows in order to be able to read email.
 
   Secondly, I can read today's text email with a 15 or 20 year old email
 client.  (X)HTML doesn't work that way.  It's always changing.  Try
 reading most web pages with a 5-year-old browser and see what I mean.  I
 should *NOT* have to change my email client every few months to keep up
 with deliberate incompatabilities thrown in by Microsoft.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Advansys SCSI Not Available on 2005.0 LiveCD

2005-05-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 5/8/05, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess I am unlucky.  After booting I ran 'modprobe sym53c8xx'.  Then I
 checked /dev for sda  sdb which are on that card.  I saw sda and sda1
 but when I mounted, I could tell they weren't my drive.  Do I need to do
 something else?

Try running dmesg and looking for messages about SCSI devices. (sda,
sdb, sdc, etc.) Some new memory device readers chew up a bunch of SCSI
id's and then the disk drives may come later.

Also look around in /proc/bus and see if you get any info.

I hope you find something useful.

Good luck,
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Re: [gentoo-user] auto revdep-rebuild

2005-05-08 Thread N. Owen Gunden
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 11:07:13AM +0300, Matan Peled wrote:
 Because it takes a really long time, and involves remerging packages you have
 not mentioned on the command line (which you might not want remerged
 automatically).

It doesn't take that long, especially with the --soname argument (skips
some steps that way).

As for your second point, I would find useful a flag to emerge that
means 'remerge reverse deps as needed to ensure consistency'.  I mean,
if the dynamic link is broken (revdep-rebuild doesn't do anything if
not), it's not like you're going to break something that's currently
working by doing the emerge.

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[gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password

2005-05-08 Thread Drew Tomlinson
I've followed the directions in the handbook and installed from a 
Knoppix boot.  I've made it all the way to section 10.d (reboot).  
However upon reboot, I'm presented with a login prompt.  I log in as 
root and enter the password I set in section 8.c but it tells me 'login 
incorrect'.  I boot Knoppix again, perform the required steps and enter 
my chroot environment.  I repeat section 8.c and reset the password.  I 
also move ahead to section 11 and create a user account for myself, 
passing along '-G wheel', so I can su if necessary.  I reboot again back 
to Gentoo but get the same problem when logging on as root.  I can log 
on with the new user account I've created but 'su' does not work (can't 
setguid), probably due to the same password issue I have when logging on 
as root.

Any idea?  I'm almost there.
Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] SLOTS and Cedega

2005-05-08 Thread W.Kenworthy
Sounds good, need to add a wine-config (etc) and a hook to the new
eclectic to manage the versions.

BillK


On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 15:54 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Those of you that use Cedega probably know that some versions work
 better with some games than others.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Blue video playback

2005-05-08 Thread W.Kenworthy
Do you have a laptop or multi-output video card?  On my laptop system, I
get video on the laptop screen, but only a frame around a bluescreen
on the original monitor.  Does this give a clue?

BillK


On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 15:57 +, Calvin Spealman wrote:
 This happens a lot. Currently, video playback using anything other
 than glmovie results in a blue screen. Audio plays fine on the videos,
 however. Usually when this happens, the only thing that fixes it are a
 few 'emerge world' sessions. I don't know what package is causing it,
 because its affecting multiple players. Does anyone know of some
 central movie playing library, perhaps, that could be doing this? It
 happens no matter what the format of the file is.
 
 I want to look into the matter further, but I've run out of ideas for
 where to look.
 

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[gentoo-user] MTU for DSL

2005-05-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
From what I can see I am supposed to set my MTU to 1492 for DSL using 
PPOE.  I modified the /etc/conf.d/net.eth0 iface line to add the option 
mtu 1492.  However, from what the manual says I can't set the addresses 
and the mtu.  So where in Gentoo should I set the mtu.  I can set it in 
/etc/conf.d/local.start but I'm wondering if there is a better place.

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Re: [gentoo-user]

2005-05-08 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 5/8/2005 3:43 PM Peter De Zutter wrote:
Add yourself to the wheel group, and then you'll be able to su to root.
I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd.  I 
also think that if I'm not part of the wheel group, I wouldn't even have 
the opportunity to enter a password after doing 'su'.  How can I check 
to be sure I'm part of the wheel group?

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On 5/9/05, *Drew Tomlinson* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've followed the directions in the handbook and installed from a
Knoppix boot.  I've made it all the way to section 10.d (reboot).
However upon reboot, I'm presented with a login prompt.  I log in as
root and enter the password I set in section 8.c but it tells me
'login
incorrect'.  I boot Knoppix again, perform the required steps and
enter
my chroot environment.  I repeat section 8.c and reset the
password.  I
also move ahead to section 11 and create a user account for myself,
passing along '-G wheel', so I can su if necessary.  I reboot
again back
to Gentoo but get the same problem when logging on as root.  I can log
on with the new user account I've created but 'su' does not work
(can't
setguid), probably due to the same password issue I have when
logging on
as root.
Any idea?  I'm almost there.
Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user]

2005-05-08 Thread Mike Williams
On Monday 09 May 2005 00:09, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd.  I
 also think that if I'm not part of the wheel group, I wouldn't even have
 the opportunity to enter a password after doing 'su'.  How can I check
 to be sure I'm part of the wheel group?

You will still get asked.
id

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Re: [gentoo-user]

2005-05-08 Thread Andreas Claesson
On 5/9/05, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/8/2005 3:43 PM Peter De Zutter wrote:
 
  Add yourself to the wheel group, and then you'll be able to su to root.
 
 I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd.  I
 also think that if I'm not part of the wheel group, I wouldn't even have
 the opportunity to enter a password after doing 'su'.  How can I check
 to be sure I'm part of the wheel group?

# groups

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Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password

2005-05-08 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 5/8/2005 4:20 PM Mike Williams wrote:
On Monday 09 May 2005 00:09, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 

I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd.  I
also think that if I'm not part of the wheel group, I wouldn't even have
the opportunity to enter a password after doing 'su'.  How can I check
to be sure I'm part of the wheel group?
   

You will still get asked.
id
 

OK, thanks.  I have confirmed that I'm part of the 'wheel' group with 
both the 'id' and 'groups' command, thus my problems must be from not 
setting the initial root password properly.  So any ideas on what I'm 
missing setting the root password in 8.c of the handbook?  From the 
chrooted environment as 'root' I issued 'passwd' and then typed in my 
new password.  I have also tried 'passwd root' with the same effect.  Do 
I need to do something different since I booted with Knoppix?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution Data Server keeps reverting

2005-05-08 Thread Alex Bennee
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 16:03 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Alex Bennee wrote:
  Both versions are ~amd64 so I don't think that is the reason. Any idea
  what is causing emerge to think it wants to revert to a broken package?
 
 There could be a couple of reasons reasons:
 
 1) you're running a amd64 system (~amd64 is not set in /etc/make.conf),
 and you've installed evolution-data-server with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS instead
 of with an entry in /etc/portage/package.keywords;
 
 2) something else is installed that depends on the earlier version of
 evo-data-server and must downgrade evo-data-server to the version it can
 use.

Both evolution and the data server are set ~amd64 in package.keywords

 For 2) instead of emerge -upDv, try
 
 emerge -upDtv
 
 to get a tree view of what is trying to downgrade evo-data-server.
 Perhaps that program needs to be updated to an unstable version that
 will accept the higher version of evo-data-server.

00:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [portage] emerge -upDtv world

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[nomerge  ] gnome-extra/libgail-gnome-1.1.0  -debug
[nomerge  ]  gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.8.2  -debug -doc +eds*
[ebuild UD]   gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.0.4 [1.2.1] -debug
-doc

It seems that +eds support in gnome-panel wants a fixed version of
evolution-data-server. I don't suppose there is a easy way of forcing
the build to build against the latest eds to check its happy? Or is it
easiest to just directly tweak the ebuild to test?

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do you get OpenOffice to run?

2005-05-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
If I remember correctly as a user I had to run the setup command.  OOo is 
installed, then you do another install as a user and have a choice of 
network, or other type install.

 On Mon, 9 May 2005, Rob wrote:
Ric de France wrote:
 Rob,
 On 5/8/05, rob3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I compiled OpenOffice.  It ran all day and successfully completed the
 ebuild.  Now I run setup and I get hundreds of error messages.  How do I
 install it?  What have I missed?
 Have you just opened up a prompt (as a regular user and not root) and 
 typed in:

 $ ooffice
 ??
 Mine will just start up a basic openoffice.org window what error
 messages do you get?
 ...Ric
I got it working with the ooffice command, but only as root.  Doesn't seem to 
work when as a regular user.

Rob.

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Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password

2005-05-08 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 5/8/2005 4:42 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote:
On 5/8/2005 4:20 PM Mike Williams wrote:
On Monday 09 May 2005 00:09, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 

I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd.  I
also think that if I'm not part of the wheel group, I wouldn't even 
have
the opportunity to enter a password after doing 'su'.  How can I check
to be sure I'm part of the wheel group?
  

You will still get asked.
id
 

OK, thanks.  I have confirmed that I'm part of the 'wheel' group with 
both the 'id' and 'groups' command, thus my problems must be from not 
setting the initial root password properly.  So any ideas on what I'm 
missing setting the root password in 8.c of the handbook?  From the 
chrooted environment as 'root' I issued 'passwd' and then typed in my 
new password.  I have also tried 'passwd root' with the same effect.  
Do I need to do something different since I booted with Knoppix?
One more update.  I found out how to boot in single user mode by adding 
'single' to the end of the kernel line in grub.  Booted to single user 
mode and issued 'passwd' command from there.  It still doesn't work.  My 
session goes like this:

sh-2.05b# passwd
New UNIX password:
BAD PASSWORD:  it is based on a dictionary word.
Retype new UNIX password:
passwd:  password updated successfully
I get the 'BAD PASSWORD' message no matter what password I use.  I tried 
this one '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' which I'm sure is not in the dictionary but still 
got that message.  I don't know if that provides any clues or not. 

To test the various new passwords, I used this string of commands after 
each attempt to set root's password:

sh-2.05b# su user
su(pam_unix)[1911]:  session opened for user user by (uid=0)
bash-2.05b$ su
Password:
setgid: Operation not permitted
bash-2.05b$
I repeated to two scenarios above with several different passwords.  All 
attempts failed.  So I have a bright shiny new system that I'd just love 
to be able to get in to.  :)  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-08 Thread Michael Haan
2.6.9-r14 on Gentoo.

I've installed the card built the drivers and installed using:

make  make install

However, modprobe cx88-dvb I get:
WARNING: Error inserting or51132
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error inserting cx8800
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8800.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting or51132
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88-dvb.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error running install command for cx88_dvb

And some of what dmesg reports is:

or51132: Unknown symbol release_firmware
or51132: Unknown symbol request_firmware
cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read
cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog
cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_reset
cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_wakeup

Can anyone help?

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Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password

2005-05-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
If you're worried about the bad password message ignore it.  Mine always 
give that but if you notice it updates your password anyway.

Try su - and see what happens.
On Sun, 8 May 2005, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
On 5/8/2005 4:42 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 On 5/8/2005 4:20 PM Mike Williams wrote:
  On Monday 09 May 2005 00:09, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 
 
   I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd. 
'single' to the end of the kernel line in grub.  Booted to single user mode 
and issued 'passwd' command from there.  It still doesn't work.  My session 
goes like this:

sh-2.05b# passwd
New UNIX password:
BAD PASSWORD:  it is based on a dictionary word.
Retype new UNIX password:
passwd:  password updated successfully
I get the 'BAD PASSWORD' message no matter what password I use.  I tried this 
one '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' which I'm sure is not in the dictionary but still got that 
message.  I don't know if that provides any clues or not. 
To test the various new passwords, I used this string of commands after each 
attempt to set root's password:

sh-2.05b# su user
su(pam_unix)[1911]:  session opened for user user by (uid=0)
bash-2.05b$ su
Password:
setgid: Operation not permitted
bash-2.05b$
I repeated to two scenarios above with several different passwords.  All 
attempts failed.  So I have a bright shiny new system that I'd just love to 
be able to get in to.  :)  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Drew

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Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password -- Almost SOLVED!

2005-05-08 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 5/8/2005 5:29 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote:
On 5/8/2005 4:42 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote:
On 5/8/2005 4:20 PM Mike Williams wrote:
On Monday 09 May 2005 00:09, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 

I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to 
useradd.  I
also think that if I'm not part of the wheel group, I wouldn't even 
have
the opportunity to enter a password after doing 'su'.  How can I check
to be sure I'm part of the wheel group?
  

You will still get asked.
id
 

OK, thanks.  I have confirmed that I'm part of the 'wheel' group with 
both the 'id' and 'groups' command, thus my problems must be from not 
setting the initial root password properly.  So any ideas on what I'm 
missing setting the root password in 8.c of the handbook?  From the 
chrooted environment as 'root' I issued 'passwd' and then typed in my 
new password.  I have also tried 'passwd root' with the same effect.  
Do I need to do something different since I booted with Knoppix?

One more update.  I found out how to boot in single user mode by 
adding 'single' to the end of the kernel line in grub.  Booted to 
single user mode and issued 'passwd' command from there.  It still 
doesn't work.  My session goes like this:

sh-2.05b# passwd
New UNIX password:
BAD PASSWORD:  it is based on a dictionary word.
Retype new UNIX password:
passwd:  password updated successfully
I get the 'BAD PASSWORD' message no matter what password I use.  I 
tried this one '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' which I'm sure is not in the dictionary but 
still got that message.  I don't know if that provides any clues or not.
To test the various new passwords, I used this string of commands 
after each attempt to set root's password:

sh-2.05b# su user
su(pam_unix)[1911]:  session opened for user user by (uid=0)
bash-2.05b$ su
Password:
setgid: Operation not permitted
bash-2.05b$
I repeated to two scenarios above with several different passwords.  
All attempts failed.  So I have a bright shiny new system that I'd 
just love to be able to get in to.  :)  Any suggestions? 
OK, I've done some more reading and found that the reason I couldn't use 
'su' as myself was because /bin/su didn't have the setuid bit set.  So 
in all my fooling around, I have file ownership and modes screwed up 
from the default.  What user:group should own all (or most) of the files 
after a install?  What files should be setuid?  Is there a list 
somewhere?  Or will some incantation of  'emerge' fix all of this for me?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Use Subjects

2005-05-08 Thread Holly Bostick
fire-eyes schreef:
 There's quite a lot of messages today with zero subject, all I see is
 [gentoo-user]. This gets confusing when you get a ton of mail a day. It
 might be interesting to many others too, but they end up deleting it
 because it's got no subject.
 
 Or at least respond to subjectless messages with a subject...
 
 Thanks!
 

Thank you for saying; I thought it was just me.

But what's weird is:

1) most of the time the subject appears in the headers when I select the
message to read (in Thunderbird), and the messages are correctly
threaded; the subject just does not appear in the folder list;

2) In my last reply to a message I specifically copied and pasted the
subject (from an earlier message in the same thread which does have a
subject) before sending, but having just gotten the message, my subject
does not appear.

So I don't know what's going on, but at least it's not some weird
Thunderbird extension, or my ISP...

Holly
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[gentoo-user] Problem with cdrecord (``cannot allocate ...)

2005-05-08 Thread Hareesh Nagarajan
Hi All:

When I try to burn data with cdrecord as a regular user I get this error:
cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. Cannot get SCSI I/O buffer

When I run it as root cdrecord does not spit any errors. 

I'm running the following kernel: 2.6.11-ck7. How do I get cdrecord to
work for an oridinary user?

Thanks,

-Hareesh

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[gentoo-user] OK, now this is weird-- where are the subjects?

2005-05-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Now I just replied to a message with a subject, and my reply has no
subject??!!

I don't even know if this will have a subject.


What could be going on?


Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Use Subjects

2005-05-08 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 5/8/2005 6:59 PM Holly Bostick wrote:
fire-eyes schreef:
 

There's quite a lot of messages today with zero subject, all I see is
[gentoo-user]. This gets confusing when you get a ton of mail a day. It
might be interesting to many others too, but they end up deleting it
because it's got no subject.
Or at least respond to subjectless messages with a subject...
Thanks!
   

Thank you for saying; I thought it was just me.
But what's weird is:
1) most of the time the subject appears in the headers when I select the
message to read (in Thunderbird), and the messages are correctly
threaded; the subject just does not appear in the folder list;
2) In my last reply to a message I specifically copied and pasted the
subject (from an earlier message in the same thread which does have a
subject) before sending, but having just gotten the message, my subject
does not appear.
So I don't know what's going on, but at least it's not some weird
Thunderbird extension, or my ISP...
Holly
 

Same problems here.  I suspect the list mail program is stripping something.
Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] Programs executed as root cannot connect to X server

2005-05-08 Thread Hareesh Nagarajan
Hi All:

How do I enable programs which are executed by the root to connect to
the X server?

E.g.:
root: hareesh/ # xemacs
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

X server not responding
: :0.0

Thanks,

Hareesh

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Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password

2005-05-08 Thread Andreas Claesson
On 5/9/05, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 To test the various new passwords, I used this string of commands after
 each attempt to set root's password:
 
 sh-2.05b# su user
 su(pam_unix)[1911]:  session opened for user user by (uid=0)
 bash-2.05b$ su
 Password:
 setgid: Operation not permitted

Because of the setgid error I don't think it is a password problem. 
The normal output on wrong passwords are:

# su
Password:
su: Authentication failure
Sorry.

Something else (pam?) is not allowing you to become root.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Use Subjects

2005-05-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 08 May 2005 21:42:55 -0400 fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| There's quite a lot of messages today with zero subject, all I see is
| [gentoo-user]. This gets confusing when you get a ton of mail a day.
| It might be interesting to many others too, but they end up deleting
| it because it's got no subject.

Our mailing list software is throwing a hissy fit and inserting double
subject lines. It might be confusing some email clients...

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[gentoo-user] mmx error with compiling ffmpeg on epia m9000 box

2005-05-08 Thread Nick Rout
I have an M9000 epia mini-itx box. It chokes on ffmpeg per the error message 
later on.

As the message relates to mmx in some way, I also include cat
/proc/cpuinfo which shows the mmx flag, so I have the mmx USE flag
turned on. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] narnia $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : CentaurHauls
cpu family  : 6
model   : 8
model name  : VIA C3 Ezra
stepping: 9
cpu MHz : 933.076
cache size  : 64 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu de tsc msr cx8 mtrr pge mmx 3dnow
bogomips: 1843.20


Now the ffmpeg compile error:


i586-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -march=c3 -m3dnow -O3 -pipe 
-fomit-frame-pointer -I. 
-I'/var/tmp/portage/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20050226-r3/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-p20050226-shared'
 
-I'/var/tmp/portage/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20050226-r3/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-p20050226-shared'/libavcodec
 
-I'/var/tmp/portage/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20050226-r3/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-p20050226-shared'/libavformat
 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o 
output_example.o output_example.c
i586-pc-linux-gnu-gcc 
'/var/tmp/portage/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20050226-r3/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-p20050226-shared'/qt-faststart.c
 -o qt-faststart
i386/dsputil_mmx.c: In function `dsputil_init_mmx':
i386/dsputil_mmx.c:3076: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
i386/dsputil_mmx.c:3077: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
i386/dsputil_mmx.c: In function `put_qpel8_mc10_3dnow':
i386/dsputil_mmx_avg.h:105: error: can't find a register in class `BREG' while 
reloading `asm'
i386/dsputil_mmx.c: At top level:
i386/dsputil_mmx_rnd.h:59: warning: `put_no_rnd_pixels8_l2_mmx' defined but not 
used
i386/dsputil_mmx_rnd.h:155: warning: `put_no_rnd_pixels16_l2_mmx' defined but 
not used
i386/dsputil_mmx_rnd.h:300: warning: `avg_no_rnd_pixels4_mmx' defined but not 
used
i386/dsputil_mmx_rnd.h:59: warning: `put_pixels8_l2_mmx' defined but not used
i386/dsputil_mmx_rnd.h:155: warning: `put_pixels16_l2_mmx' defined but not used
make[1]: *** [i386/dsputil_mmx.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20050226-r3/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-p20050226-shared/libavcodec'
make: *** [lib] Error 2

!!! ERROR: media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20050226-r3 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 111, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Programs executed as root cannot connect to X server

2005-05-08 Thread Dmitri Vassilenko
On Sunday May 8 2005 22:14, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:
 How do I enable programs which are executed by the root to connect to
 the X server?

I think if you're doing this locally, you can just copy .Xauthority in the 
directory of the user currently using the server to /root/ (or whatever 
root's home directory is).

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Re: [gentoo-user] make new files writable by group by default?

2005-05-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 8 May 2005 20:06:46 -0700 Robert Persson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Could anyone tell me how to make a user's new files writable by the
| user's  group by default (i.e. 664 rather than 644)?  I would like
| robert (a member  of p2p) to be able to move or erase files created by
| p2p:p2p without having  to log in as p2p or root.

man umask

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[gentoo-user] lost file with reiser4

2005-05-08 Thread Robert Persson
Has anyone else had a problem in which reiser4 loses a file, but fsck.reiser4 
can't find anything wrong?

I was trying to burn a large file to dvd+rw but k3b would just ignore it. It 
would therefore spend very little time writing the dvd, but a long time 
verifying it before it decided that the file was missing from the dvd.

I then found that when I clicked on the file icon in konqueror I would get a 
message that the file did not exist, while khexedit would show me an empty 
file.

F3ing in midnight commander would also show me an empty file until the file 
was moved to trash, after which it would show me the binary gibberish I would 
normally have expected.  However moving the file to trash did not help 
konqueror or khexedit to see anything in the file.

I booted from a rescue disk and ran fsck.reiser4, but it found no error.

The file had a simple ascii name (winxp.img) and, at 4GB exactly, was by far 
the largest file I have ever had on my reiser4 partition.

Deleting the file completely freed up the space the file was supposed to have 
been taking up.

Does anyone know if this is a known problem with reiser4, if it is indeed a 
problem particularly with large files, and if I would be likely to meet it 
again once I start using large files more often for video editing and stuff?

Many thanks
Robert

PS If I don't reply promptly to your replies this time it's not because I'm 
being rude.  I'm just going to be off-grid for a little while.
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Re: [gentoo-user] lost file with reiser4

2005-05-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 8 May 2005 20:28:04 -0700 Robert Persson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Has anyone else had a problem in which reiser4 loses a file, but
| fsck.reiser4  can't find anything wrong?

Heh. reiser4 is full of bugs. Behaviour like this is to be expected --
just count yourself lucky that it's only one file, and that it was lost
rather than subtly changed or moved somewhere where it's a security
risk.

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[gentoo-user] devfs to udev upgrade issues

2005-05-08 Thread Ow Mun Heng
I tried to upgrade(?) from devfs to udev(045) today and it was
miserable.

I followed the Gentoo Udev Guide as well as DSD's guide but no go.

I've recompiled my kernel(2.6.11) to _not_ mount /dev/ automatically at
boot. (devFS is still compiled into the kernel)

edited /etc/conf.d/rc
RC_DEVICES=auto
RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=yes
RC_DEVFSD_STARTUP=yes

changed my kernel (grub) line to append gentoo=nodevfs

Rebooted and faced a lot of issues.

The 1st would be the obvious /sbin/rc file :

The Gentoo Linux system initialization scripts have detected that
your system does not support DEVFS or UDEV.  Since Gentoo Linux
has been designed with these dynamic /dev managers in mind, it is
highly suggested that you build support for it into your kernel.
Please read the Gentoo Handbook for more information!

I continue booting and I find that in the _worst_ case, I can't load
up /dev/hda3 (root) due to a missing/invalid/non-existant symlink
in /dev

I tried executing udevstart and it spurt out these (bunch of) lines
in /var/log/messages

configured rule in '/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules' at line 133
applied, added symlink '%k'

configured rule in '/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules' at line 133
applied, 'vcs3' becomes 'vcc/%n'


I tried a few variants but all of them no go. I finally relented and
removed udev and reverted back to my old kernel (/dev/ mounted
automatically at boot)

I boot into the original kernel and now I see these errors :

devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for vcc/2
devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for vcc/3
devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for vcc/a3
devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for vcc/4
devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for vcc/a4

Guys... There are 2 ways to fix this.

1. Help me get udev running again. (but why do I need udev anyway??)
2. Help me get devfs running again. Right now.. I see it's only those
few errors above and everything seems to be working.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Programs executed as root cannot connect to X server

2005-05-08 Thread Philip Webb
050508 Myk Taylor wrote:
 Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:
 How do I enable programs which are executed by root
 to connect to the X server?
 If you're logged into a X as a user and su to root in a console,
 root won't have the appropriate credentials to access X (~/.Xauthority).
 One way around this is to allow forwarded X connections in sshd 
 and run
   ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 instead of su.  the '-Y' parameter sets the DISPLAY variable
 and forwards X connections to your running window manager.
 any other solutions out there?

running a KDE 'root konsole', i have no problem starting Gvim .
perhaps KDE takes care of the necessary authority  permissions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Please Use Subjects

2005-05-08 Thread Philip Webb
050509 Holly Bostick wrote:
 fire-eyes complained re a lot of messages today with zero subject
 most of the time the subject appears in the headers
 when I select the message to read in Thunderbird
 and the messages are correctly threaded;
 the subject just does not appear in the folder list;
 at least it's not some weird Thunderbird extension, or my ISP...

i haven't seen this phenomenon with Mutt.

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[gentoo-user] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-08 Thread Michael Haan
On 5/8/05, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2.6.9-r14 on Gentoo.
 
 I've installed the card built the drivers and installed using:
 
 make  make install
 
 However, modprobe cx88-dvb I get:
 WARNING: Error inserting or51132
 (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
 (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
 (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
 (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 FATAL: Error inserting cx8800
 (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8800.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 WARNING: Error inserting or51132
 (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
 (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
 (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb
 (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88-dvb.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 FATAL: Error running install command for cx88_dvb
 
 And some of what dmesg reports is:
 
 or51132: Unknown symbol release_firmware
 or51132: Unknown symbol request_firmware
 cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read
 cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog
 cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_reset
 cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_wakeup
 
 Can anyone help?
 

Someone has to have done this.  Bueller?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Programs executed as root cannot connect to X server

2005-05-08 Thread Nick Rout

On Sun, 08 May 2005 19:51:15 -0700
Myk Taylor wrote:

 If you're logged into a X as a user and su to root in a console, root
 won't have the appropriate credentials to access X (~/.Xauthority).  One
 way around this is to allow forwarded X connections in sshd and run
   ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 instead of su.  the '-Y' parameter sets the DISPLAY variable and
 forwards X connections to your running window manager.
 
 any other solutions out there?

sux does the same as su but transfers whatever is needed for
authentication.



 
 --myk
 
 Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:
  How do I enable programs which are executed by the root to connect to
  the X server?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Programs executed as root cannot connect to X server

2005-05-08 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:

Hi All:

How do I enable programs which are executed by the root to connect to
the X server?

E.g.:
root: hareesh/ # xemacs
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

X server not responding
: :0.0

Thanks,

Hareesh

  

Hi,
Just set it (or export it): DISPLAY=:0.0 command-here.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OK, now this is weird-- where are the subjects?

2005-05-08 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Holly Bostick wrote:
Now I just replied to a message with a subject, and my reply has no
subject??!!
I don't even know if this will have a subject.
What could be going on?
*BuRP*
Sorry, I was hungry. :)
I don't know what's going on, but I've been seeing subject-less messages 
for the past several hours, although not every message lacks a subject.

It's only this list, too.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OK, now this is weird-- where are the subjects?

2005-05-08 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
On 09/05/05, Jonathan Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Holly Bostick wrote:
  Now I just replied to a message with a subject, and my reply has no
  subject??!!
 
  I don't even know if this will have a subject.
 
 
  What could be going on?
 *BuRP*
 
 Sorry, I was hungry. :)
 
 I don't know what's going on, but I've been seeing subject-less messages
 for the past several hours, although not every message lacks a subject.
 
 It's only this list, too.

The subjects are there, unfortunately, there is more the one pre
message, which causes the confusion:

for example:

Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OK, now this is weird-- where are the subjects?
Subject: [gentoo-user] 

I guess that something wrong with the list software.

regards
pshemko

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Re: [gentoo-user] pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-08 Thread Bob Sanders
On Sun, 8 May 2005 20:40:54 -0400
Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2.6.9-r14 on Gentoo.
 
 I've installed the card built the drivers and installed using:
 

I've installed it, but used 2.6.11-r6 along with the latest download of files
from the web site.  No problems.  tvtime lets me watch via the s-vhs connector
as I've not got an antenna yet.

I'd guess you might need to upgrade your kernel.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] looking for alternatives to Apache

2005-05-08 Thread Pingveno
I don't have a suggestion, but I'm very sympathetic. I've always hated 
Apache configuration, it seems like a mass of well-hidden options 
without a robust gui designed to give web site admins a headache. :-)

-Pingveno
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
I have spent a way too much time in the past week screwing around with 
Apache configurations.  The final straw was when I took a working 
configuration, change the domain name and it failed without telling me 
why or where.

so I'm looking for an alternative.  What I need is something that has 
the following characteristics:

Virtual hosts
virtual hosts server name aliases
404 handler for different URLs (ie. http://www.demo.com/ and 
http://www.demo.com/sub/ should be able to have different handlers)
REDIRECT_URL properly set during a 404 events
CGI
directory level access control
works with mailman

there are probably other things that would be nice but I'll probably 
find them out when I try to use it.

I have already tried and failed with lighttpd.  it fails on the 
REDIRECT_URL test as well as rather difficult workarounds for server 
name aliases.

so I would welcome suggestions about alternative Web servers that are 
reasonably alive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-08 Thread Michael Haan
On 5/9/05, Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 8 May 2005 20:40:54 -0400
 Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  2.6.9-r14 on Gentoo.
 
  I've installed the card built the drivers and installed using:
 
 
 I've installed it, but used 2.6.11-r6 along with the latest download of files
 from the web site.  No problems.  tvtime lets me watch via the s-vhs connector
 as I've not got an antenna yet.
 
 I'd guess you might need to upgrade your kernel.
 
 Bob
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A kernel upgrade is problematic.  I've tried 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 but
there appear to be issues with support for my onboard sata controller.
 There must be a way to make this work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] looking for alternatives to Apache

2005-05-08 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Eric S. Johansson wrote:

I have spent a way too much time in the past week screwing around  
with Apache configurations.  The final straw was when I took a  
working configuration, change the domain name and it failed  
without telling me why or where.

so I'm looking for an alternative.  What I need is something that  
has the following characteristics:

Virtual hosts
virtual hosts server name aliases
404 handler for different URLs (ie. http://www.demo.com/ and  
http://www.demo.com/sub/ should be able to have different handlers)
REDIRECT_URL properly set during a 404 events
CGI
directory level access control
works with mailman

there are probably other things that would be nice but I'll  
probably find them out when I try to use it.

I have already tried and failed with lighttpd.  it fails on the  
REDIRECT_URL test as well as rather difficult workarounds for  
server name aliases.

so I would welcome suggestions about alternative Web servers that  
are reasonably alive.

---eric

I use Roxen in addition to apache.  www.roxen.com
It should handle the above I believe.
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Re: [gentoo-user] lost file with reiser4

2005-05-08 Thread Robert Persson
On May 8, 2005 08:46 pm Ciaran McCreesh was like:
 On Sun, 8 May 2005 20:28:04 -0700 Robert Persson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | Has anyone else had a problem in which reiser4 loses a file, but
 | fsck.reiser4  can't find anything wrong?

 Heh. reiser4 is full of bugs. Behaviour like this is to be expected --
 just count yourself lucky that it's only one file, and that it was lost
 rather than subtly changed or moved somewhere where it's a security
 risk.

Thanks Ciaran.

It's actually the first problem I've had with reiser4 since I started using it 
a few months ago - much more reliable than that NTFS most of the rest of the 
world uses - when I was using windows NTFS crapped up on me several times a 
week.  That said, I don't want to lose data again, so I will probably fall 
back to something less flashy before too long.

Robert
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Re: [gentoo-user] make new files writable by group by default?

2005-05-08 Thread Robert Persson
On May 8, 2005 08:24 pm Ciaran McCreesh was like:
 On Sun, 8 May 2005 20:06:46 -0700 Robert Persson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | Could anyone tell me how to make a user's new files writable by the
 | user's  group by default (i.e. 664 rather than 644)?  I would like
 | robert (a member  of p2p) to be able to move or erase files created by
 | p2p:p2p without having  to log in as p2p or root.

 man umask

Ah.  So I need to put a umask command somewhere.  Should I put it in 
~/.profile or somewhere else?

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Don't use nuclear weapons to troubleshoot faults.
(US Air Force Instruction 91-111, 1 Oct 1997)

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