Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] OT: thermal management diff 2.4 vs. 2.6
On Di, Jun 28 2005 at 07:22:33 -0400, Carl Hudkins wrote: On Tue June 28 2005 16:34, Stefan Bruda wrote: Oh, of course therm_adt746x won't load, sorry for not mentioning it. There is as far as I know no option in the kernel config for thermal management on these machines. I am clueless as to why is the fan behaving differently, it simply shouldn't. I'm not an expert here, but could it be the kernel is not using some kind of CPU idling when it's not busy? Maybe the CPU is actually running hotter than it used to. Just an idea, may not be founded in fact. ;) Well, if there's no means to control when the fan starts it probably _is_ something like this. i'll try some earlier 2.6 kernels then since Stefan earlier stated that this change didn't occur at the 2.4-2.6 switch but somewhere in the early 2.6 series (IIRC before 2.6.7). i'm hardly using the machine anymore because that goddamn fan is just too annoying and if i try to compensate by turning up my music the neighbors will complain after a while ;( pgpLKdcj94NW6.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-ppc-user] emerge linux-wlan-ng problem on ppc
Howdy, I am done installing gentoo now. I had to install Ubuntu on another partition and install gentoo one step at a time over a couple of weeks. iBook 366, and can't boot from CDRs. I figured out how to tell emerge to build linux-wlan-ng against warnings with: export ACCEPT_KEYWORDS='~ppc' Then here is what happens: trix boot # emerge linux-wlan-ng Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre23 to / md5 files ;-) linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre23.ebuild md5 files ;-) linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre20.ebuild md5 files ;-) linux-wlan-ng-0.2.0-r3.ebuild md5 files ;-) ChangeLog md5 files ;-) metadata.xml md5 files ;-) files/digest-linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre20 md5 files ;-) files/digest-linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre23 md5 files ;-) files/digest-linux-wlan-ng-0.2.0-r3 md5 files ;-) files/linux-wlan-2.6.10-fix.diff md5 src_uri ;-) linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1pre23.tar.bz2 md5 src_uri ;-) linux-wlan-ng-gentoo-init.gz * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Found sources for kernel version: * 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 Unpacking source... Unpacking linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1pre23.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre23/work Unpacking linux-wlan-ng-gentoo-init.gz to /var/tmp/portage/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre23/work * Applying linux-wlan-2.6.10-fix.diff ... [ ok ] Source unpacked. -- Linux WLAN Configuration Script - The default responses are correct for most users. Build Prism2.x PCMCIA Card Services (_cs) driver? (y/n) [n] Build Prism2 PLX9052 based PCI (_plx) adapter driver? (y/n) [n] Build Prism2.5 native PCI (_pci) driver? (y/n) [y] Build Prism2.5 USB (_usb) driver? (y/n) [n] Linux source directory [/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-powerpc/build] Linux source tree /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-powerpc/build is incomplete or missing! See the HOWTO for a list of FTP sites for current kernel sources. Configuration failed make: *** [default_config] Error 1 !!! ERROR: wireless/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre23 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 95, Exitcode 2 !!! failed configuring WLAN !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. trix boot # Any ideas? Ubuntu has linux-wlan-ng in apt, and I actually used my Prism device to install gentoo on the other partition. Any help appreciated. I'm almost there! Thanks, Linc -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring Engage
Hi, Have a look to : http://get-e.org/User_Guide/English/pages/4.2.html ++ Beber On 6/29/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Two things: 1. Is there another GNOME suitable parabolic zooming dock, like kxdocker but for gnome? If you can only think of Engage, please move to question 2. 2. :) How do you configure the thing? It gives me this on running: am a system tray :) :) engage: icon.c:182: od_icon_reload: Assertion 'path' failed. Aborted # Please note that on its first run, before giving me that error, it told me to create a few directories in my home area. I did, but no improvements. Thanks! Ian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring Engage
Bertrand Jacquin wrote: Hi, Have a look to : http://get-e.org/User_Guide/English/pages/4.2.html ++ Beber On 6/29/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Two things: 1. Is there another GNOME suitable parabolic zooming dock, like kxdocker but for gnome? If you can only think of Engage, please move to question 2. 2. :) How do you configure the thing? It gives me this on running: am a system tray :) :) engage: icon.c:182: od_icon_reload: Assertion 'path' failed. Aborted # Please note that on its first run, before giving me that error, it told me to create a few directories in my home area. I did, but no improvements. Thanks! Ian So does this mean I need Enlightenment? Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another
On Wed, June 29, 2005 5:08 am, Ow Mun Heng said: I do, however, intend to test rdiff-backup later. ;) Well.. there is more than one way to skin the cat eh. I still think you should take a look at rsync. rdiff-backup uses librsync, so it only transfers the minimum necessary. Unlike rsync, it allows you to easily roll back to an older version of a file. Very useful when you realise you have screwed your configs just after a backup run. -- Neil Bothwick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 09:24 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, June 29, 2005 5:08 am, Ow Mun Heng said: I do, however, intend to test rdiff-backup later. ;) Well.. there is more than one way to skin the cat eh. I still think you should take a look at rsync. rdiff-backup uses librsync, so it only transfers the minimum necessary. I do agree that rdiff-backup would be easier on the disk space. But my current practice is to sync all the changes into a tree that rotates every 7 days. (using the day before as a seed) This way, if bad things happen, I don't have to do the find full backup and apply the incrementals. Unlike rsync, it allows you to easily roll back to an older version of file. Very useful when you realise you have screwed your configs just after a backup run. BTW, librsync = rsync protocol/algo? Same thing? Please explain the roll back. it should be the same as with rsync No? -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 16:41:20 up 1 day, 3:28, 4 users, load average: 1.10, 1.18, 0.92 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
D600 Was [Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Latitude D610]
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 02:52 -0400, Willie Wong wrote: I have Gentoo 2004.3 running on a D600, with ipw2200 maturing over the past year and several packages becoming available in the portage tree (broadcom's bcm5700 for one), it has only gotten easier. Do you have TVout working on yours? And does ATI binary drivers work? I can't get it to work on mine. I keep getting the NO Screen Found issue. If yes, can I get a copy of your xorg.conf settings off-list? Thanks. ps : I only wanted to try ati binary drivers cos I found out they can use tv-out which I really want. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 16:44:22 up 1 day, 3:31, 4 users, load average: 0.49, 0.84, 0.83 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 10:16 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:43:44 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Unlike rsync, it allows you to easily roll back to an older version of file. Very useful when you realise you have screwed your configs just after a backup run. BTW, librsync = rsync protocol/algo? Same thing? Please explain the roll back. it should be the same as with rsync No? No. rdiff-backup keeps a a backup plus diffs. You can roll back as far as you want just by specifying the age. rdiff-backup --restore-as-of 1D12h /backup/path/to/file will restore file to the version you used 36 hours ago. Wow.. That does seem interesting. (I presume this is if you do a backup every 12 hours?) When Does it do a Full backup? Check out the rdiff-backup web site, it gives several examples of how it can be used - http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ Yep.. Thanks.. Will do once I get some I-net access. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 17:44:48 up 1 day, 4:31, 4 users, load average: 1.54, 1.27, 0.98 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xdirectfb on 2005 - no binary after compilation - any tips to get xdirectfb working
On 6/29/05, anthony hornby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a Matrox G550 dual head graphics card and I want to have DirectFB running on one head for VDR output http://www.cadsoft.de/vdr/ using softdevice, and the other head running XDirectFB so I have a local graphical desktop. The latest ebuild for xdirectfb is broken the compile runs but produces no binary - seems to be related to some broken macros - see bug report below http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76167 Anyone have any tips on getting XdirectFB working on gentoo 2005? I have DriectFB and VDR all working now - just need XDirectFB to be working and its all done. Thanks a lot. Anthony. I have searched for a long time for a solution to this. I would recommended to build it yourself (althought that has never worked for me either) it might help you. But the question has been asked by a lot of people for a long time, and no solutions or comments have been suggested. Perhaps there is regex somewhere deep within Gentoo that has XDirectFB piped to /dev/null (terrible joke.. but hey its late and i'm tired). Anyways if you do find a solution and get XDirectFB built.. share the knowledge ;P -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] vsftp .vs. ftpbase WTF??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -auD world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (is blocking net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) [ebuild N] net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 [ebuild U ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 [2.0.3] !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!on the same system. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # So the answer is Den't emerge until things are sorted out (ftpbase-0.01 orvsftpd-2.0.3-r2)? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vsftp .vs. ftpbase WTF??
Stoian Ivanov wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -auD world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (is blocking net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) [ebuild N] net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 [ebuild U ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 [2.0.3] !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!on the same system. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # So the answer is Den't emerge until things are sorted out (ftpbase-0.01 orvsftpd-2.0.3-r2)? emerge unmerge =net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3 Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice2.0 Install [not solved :( ]
Ian K schreef: Zac Medico wrote: Ian K wrote: Hey Everyone, I really want the OO.org 2.0 beta, but its not in portage snip http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-office;name=openoffice-bin The latest beta is in the portage tree but it's keyword masked. echo app-office/openoffice-bin ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge openoffice-bin Im getting a problem though.. After I enter in your command, I did an emerge search to get the size of the download, but it says the latest version is still 1.1.4, and I just did an emerge sync a few hours ago... Any ideas? Yes... This suggests that you've either made a typo or otherwise not successfully unmasked the file. Now, I'm looking at the OO.o-bin entry in packages.gentoo.org, openoffice-bin 1.9.109 Thu Jun 16 16:48:15 2005 Description: OpenOffice productivity suite Changes: *openoffice-bin-1.9.109 (16 Jun 2005) 16 Jun 2005; Andreas Proschofsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] +files/1.9/ooo-wrapper2, +openoffice-bin-1.9.109.ebuild: New beta version of OOo 2.0. This uses a new wrapper, also adds two new languages (hr and lt) plus some minor fixes and the user install dir has changed. 05 Jun 2005; Andreas Proschofsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] openoffice-bin-1.9.104.ebuild: Make the LINGUAS-stuff a little bit smarter to not break en_GB, closes bug #93826 21 May 2005; Andreas Proschofsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] openoffice-bin-1.9.104.ebuild: Missed two new rpms, which breaks stuff for some. Fixed. Install changing all the time is really anoying. alpha amd64 arm hppaia64mipsppc ppc64 ppc macos s390sparc x86 1.9.109 - M~ - - - - - - - - - M~ and it looks to me like it's double-masked; hard-masked and by keyword. This is supported by my own settings (I have 1.9.109 installed myself). So first you have to disable the hard mask: echo 'app-office/openoffice-bin' /etc/portage/package.unmask (make sure that /etc/portage exists first-- the echo command can create the file if it doesn't exist, but not the folder, so will fail in that case) and then the keyword mask: echo 'app-office/openoffice-bin ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords This should allow you to get a hold of the app you want. Works for me, anyway. If it still doesn't work, check for typos inside the file itself (in a root terminal with nano, or a gk/kdesu text editor, as only root can edit these files)-- I'm becoming rather famous with myself for echoing to /etc/portage/packagecommawhatever rather than /etc/portage/packageperiodwhatever (yeah, I can't half type)-- this and other typos will prevent the entry from being correctly read, thus not telling Portage that you want the package made available to you. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another
I used to use rdiff-backup, I found it very satisfactory. But at one point I had a hard drive melt down, tried to do restore, mucked it up, ended up doing a full rebuild, pulling in configuration info from the backup files. There has to an easier way. Any suggestions on using rdiff-backup for a cold iron restore?? Bill Roberts On 11:14 Wed 29 Jun , Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:45:52 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: rdiff-backup --restore-as-of 1D12h /backup/path/to/file will restore file to the version you used 36 hours ago. Wow.. That does seem interesting. (I presume this is if you do a backup every 12 hours?) You can do the backup as often or as frequently as you like. it will pick the version before the time to specify. When Does it do a Full backup? The first time you run it. But then each subsequent backup you do becomes the full one with the older files being the incrementals. Basically, it keeps a full mirror of the directory you backup, plus the information needed to reconstruct older or deleted files. -- Neil Bothwick God: What one human uses to persecute another. pgpBHAPOJvpju.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Amarok
Anthony E. Caudel schreef: I recently switched to the KDE 3.4 split ebuilds but when I tried to emerge Amarok, it wnated to pull in several 3.3 packages: == These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1 +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid -debug +esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama 945 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r9 +alsa +arts +cups -debug +doc +ipv6 -kdeenablefinal -kerberos +ldap +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama 15,257 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r3 +arts +cups -debug +java -kdeenablefinal +ldap +opengl +pam +samba +ssl -xinerama 19,526 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.3.2 +alsa +arts -audiofile -cdparanoia -debug +encode +flac -kdeenablefinal +oggvorbis -speex +xine -xinerama 5,258 kB [ebuild N] media-sound/amarok-1.2.4 +arts -debug +flac +gstreamer +kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +mysql -noamazon +oggvorbis +opengl -visualization +xine -xinerama +xmms 5,875 kB I placed amarok in package.keywords so it would pull in the latest 1.2.4 version but that did't help. I don't see any particular USE flags that would cause this. None of the other apps wanted to do this and I really don't believe these 4 packages are necessary. How can I find out what is forcing this and prevent it. Tony What's forcing it is your version of amarok: # ChangeLog for media-sound/amarok # Copyright 2000-2005 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2 # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/amarok/ChangeLog,v 1.59 2005/06/27 10:21:02 flameeyes Exp $ *amarok-1.3_beta2 (27 Jun 2005) 27 Jun 2005; Diego Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] +amarok-1.3_beta2.ebuild: New upstream beta. 22 Jun 2005; Hanno Boeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] +files/amarok-gcc4.gz, amarok-1.2.4.ebuild: Fix for gcc4. 17 Jun 2005; Joseph Jezak [EMAIL PROTECTED] amarok-1.2.3.ebuild: Marked ppc stable. 16 Jun 2005; Diego Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] amarok-1.3_beta1.ebuild: Amarok 1.3 depends on kde 3.3 not 3.4. See that last entry? You need the 1.3 beta, not the last release. esults 1 - 1 of 1 amarok Description: amaroK - the audio player for KDE. Releasesalpha amd64 arm hppaia64mipsppc ppc64 ppc macos s390sh sparc x86 1.3_beta2 - M~ - - - - M~ - - - - - M~ 1.3_beta1 - M~ - - - - M~ - - - - - M~ The betas are hard masked and package masked, so you will have to (from a root terminal): echo 'media-sound/amarok' /etc/portage/package.unmask and echo 'media-sound/amarok ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords then you should be able to get the version that depends on KDE 3.4. BTW, I'm using it (the beta build), and it seems fine (this is my first time using Amarok, so I have no previous experience). I don't even use KDE, but it's now my default player. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vsftp .vs. ftpbase WTF??
Stoian Ivanov schreef: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -auD world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (is blocking net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) [ebuild N] net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 [ebuild U ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 [2.0.3] !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!on the same system. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # So the answer is Den't emerge until things are sorted out (ftpbase-0.01 orvsftpd-2.0.3-r2)? And your question would be? Are you asking how to find out why ftpbase is being called at all (run emerge -upDt world to get a tree view that will show you what installed program vsftpd is a -D(ependency) of, and also what installed program is requiring ftpbase)? Are you asking how to solve the issue (unmerge vsftpd and then run the original command again, which will allow ftpbase to install, as it cannot be installed on a system where vsftpd is already installed-- apparently they are replacements for each other)? Or are you asking which one is better (no idea)? Of course you can emerge while this is up in the air; just not with --deep and probably not world (as world will likely re-initiate the conflict). But if there are other things on the list that you want to update, you can of course do that, and you can of course add any new apps that might catch your fancy. And some 5-10 minutes of looking at the information of the two conflicting apps-- a combination of searches on www.gentoo-portage.com and packages.gentoo.org , with a side trip to one or both homepages, usually should indicate why the block exists and provide enough information about both programs so you can decide how you personally want to solve it (maybe you don't want ftpbase at all and want to stick with vsftpd). Blocks really seem to throw people for a loop, when they're really only there to make you *stop* the headlong rush and examine the particular situation more carefully. Otherwise, they're not a really big deal, at least IMHO. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:34:16 -0400, Bill Roberts wrote: I used to use rdiff-backup, I found it very satisfactory. But at one point I had a hard drive melt down, tried to do restore, mucked it up, ended up doing a full rebuild, pulling in configuration info from the backup files. There has to an easier way. Any suggestions on using rdiff-backup for a cold iron restore?? In that case, I'd just copy the entire backup directory back to the hard drive. I make squashfs archives of the backups each week and write them to a bootable DVD. If disaster strikes, I can boot fro the DVD, mount the backups and copy the files back to the hard drive. -- Neil Bothwick Kludge: (v., adj., or n.) to fix a program in the usual way. pgp7MhCEizhqD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice2.0 Install [not solved :( ]
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:24:46 +, Ian K wrote: Im getting a problem though.. After I enter in your command, I did an emerge search to get the size of the download, but it says the latest version is still 1.1.4, and I just did an emerge sync a few hours ago... Any ideas? OOo 2.0 is package masked. $ grep -B 2 openoff /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask # Andreas Proschofsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] (30 Mar 2005) # Pre-Release, use on your own risk =app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.87 Do echo /etc/portage/package.unmask =app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.90 -- Neil Bothwick Whats the difference between a magician and a brothel? One has a cunning array of stunts, pgpT9gOIsmxOl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kde path is missing
Op dinsdag 28 juni 2005 23:45, schreef Zac Medico: snip Do you guys have USE=-arts by any chance? $ equery belongs /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4 kde-base/arts-3.4.1-r2 $ cat /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4 PATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/sbin:/usr/kde/3.4/bin LDPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/lib CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown Zac Yes, that's it. Now I wonder, why are those paths included in the package arts, and not in kde-env, which seems more logical to me? Jan -- If it ain't broken, you just haven't looked hard enough. Fix it anyway. -- Tom Peters pgpVDB4h0yrkn.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Portable Music Player
Hi Boyd, negative: NO SUPPORT FOR OGG!!! Well, doesn't help me (see above) but hopefully someone else reading the thread can use your review / recommendation. I just bought myself an HD 300 from MPIO. You can check out the device at www.mpio.com. It's recognized as an external usb harddisk under linux, so /var/log/messages tells me. I haven't gotten around to actually mounting it yet - I actually got this only 2 days or so ago, and my Kernel obviously still has some SCSI issues, so right now I can't mount any USB drives... I will try to get it running over the weekend. As for the device itself, I think it's rather neat. It supports OGG, MP3, ASF, WMA and WAV (though it doesn't play just ANY wav format: I couldn't convince it to play a mono wav file...). Also, it can record via line-in or an integrated microphone, and even from radio (which is also included, and has a rather decent reception, AFAIK). It does have 3 issues which I find annoying: 1. The user interface, i.e. the touch pad/keypad is good enough for setting the volume, but it's a rather awkward way to navigate the directories. Also, the keypad has 2 trigger points (i.e. if you press it 'lightly' you get the first trigger... if you press a little harder, you get a second trigger... but there's no difference between the two actions), which makes for some confusion. 2. The drive/response time is somewhat slow. When you want to navigate the directory, you may click on a file, and it will take 3-6 seconds to actually change the directory or start playing the file. However, if you run through a playlist or play all files in a directory, this is not an issue. 3. It needs a separate charging unit and doesn't get charged via USB. Not a real problem, but an annoyance. So, summing up: Loads of features (radio, recording, integrated equalizer with many presets and configurable, media formats) which outperform the iPod, AFAIK, but a slightly awkward user interface (where the iPod shines). Ah yes, one other thing: Sound is superb! Matthias -- 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild questions...
El Miércoles 29 Junio 2005 14:32, Dave Nebinger escribió: I updated world yesterday which gave me a new com_err release. Saw the notice about running revdep-rebuild fly by when I did it but ignored it because I've never really needed to do this before. Soon thereafter I could not ssh to the box because of the missing libcom_err.so.3 file and realized that I had ignored the message at my own peril... So revdep-rebuild is currently running on the box but I'm wondering how often the revdep-rebuild needs to be run... Any suggestions from you folks out there in gentoo land? I'm thinking about building a cron script to run early in the morning and, if a recent emerge has taken place, run revdep-rebuild automatically. Does this sound like a good idea or not? Does revdep-rebuild rebuild the same version of the packages that are currently installed or will it do a package update from the portage tree? Theorically revdep-rebuild should be run every update that changes some linked libraries. All apps that are depending on them maybe won't find them, and they'll crash or not work correctly, for that reason, revdep-rebuid, looks for all linked libraries needs on apps, and checks if they do exist. It's pretty useful. Bye. -- You know you're brilliant, but maybe you'd like to understand what you did 2 weeks from now. - Linus Torvalds Gentoo GNU/Linux. pgp9yXNJCRbfn.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Another question on mailing cron-job output
Hey, list, You may remember me asking previously about how to get cron to mail me the output of esync, which is working fine so fine, in fact, that I think I'll take Neil's recent suggestion of putting revdep-rebuild -p in cron.weekly and having that output mailed to me as well. So atm, my cron jobs mail me the output of esync and glsa-check (and shortly revdep-rebuild -p). But there's also a default cron job that runs daily... test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons Now, I want this job to run, but I really don't need the input mailed to me, especially if this is what it is (and this *is* what it is): !!! aux_get(): ebuild path for 'app-misc/FileRunner-2.5.1' not specified: !!!None Building database from scratch .. Reading Portage settings .. Using eix database in /var/cache/eix Using portage cache: /usr/portage/ Reading cache for main tree: 0%000%001%002%002%003%004%005%005%006%007%008%008%009%010%010%011%012%013%013%014%015%016%016%017%018%018%019%020%021%021%022%023%024%024%025%026%027%027%028%029%029%030%031%032%032%033%034%035%035%036%037%037%038%039%040%040%041%042%043%043%044%045%045%046%047%048%048%049%050%051%051%052%053%054%054%055%056%056%057%058%059%059%060%061%062%062%063%064%064%065%066%067%067%068%069%070%070%071%072%072%073%074%075%075%076%077%078%078%079%080%081%081%082%083%083%084%085%086%086% 087%0 Reading overlays .. /usr/local/portage/ 0%000%001%002%002%003%004%005%005%006%007%008%008%009%010%010%011%012%013%013%014%015%016%016%017%018%018%019%020%021%021%022%023%024%024%025%026%027%027%028%029%029%030%031%032%032%033%034%035%035%036%037%037%038%039%040%040%041%042%043%043%044%045%045%046%047%048%048%049%050%051%051%052%053%054%054%055%056%056%057%058%059%059%060%061%062%062%063%064%064%065%066%067%067%068%069%070%070%071%072%072%073%074%075%075%076%077%078%078%079%080%081%081%082%083%083%084%085%086%086%087% 088%08 /usr/local/bmg-main/ 0%000%001%002%002%003%004%005%005%006%007%008%008%009%010%010%011%012%013%013%014%015%016%016%017%018%018%019%020%021%021%022%023%024%024%025%026%027%027%028%029%029%030%031%032%032%033%034%035%035%036%037%037%038%039%040%040%041%042%043%043%044%045%045%046%047%048%048%049%050%051%051%052%053%054%054%055%056%056%057%058%059%059%060%061%062%062%063%064%064%065%066%067%067%068%069%070%070%071%072%072%073%074%075%075%076%077%078%078%079%080%081%081%082%083%083%084%085%086%086%087% 088%0 Applying masks .. Database contains 9542 packages in 137 categories. Woo-hoo. The only error in this I know about (just haven't fixed it yet, but since it's why I can't even install the program, I know that particular ebuild is broken), and the rest of the output is pretty non-informative/useless. Is there any way to *not* receive mail from specific cron jobs, while leaving the rest of the mails intact? I looked at man cron and man crontab, but they seemed to indicate that it's kind of an all-or-nothing deal. Alternatively, since the output cron jobs are being mailed via a mail -s command in the scripts themselves, can I/should I just put a dummy user in cron's 'normal' mailto slot, so that the other mail essentially goes to /dev/null? It's not a big problem now, but I can see how, as I learn more about cron and add more jobs for the daemon to run, it could get to be. What I'd *really* like is the output from the jobs that I've set to mail me output, and a summary of names of any other jobs that ran successfully, just so I know that they ran successfully. But I don't think cron does
[gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others
How can I make sure that when I upgrade, packages like evolution and epiphany (along with mozilla) won't get installed? Is there a (clean) way to prevent them from being installed? They seem to be tied to gnome, but as I don't use them, I have no need to waste time compiling any of them. -- Bruno Lustosa, aka Lofofora | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator/Web Programmer | ICQ: 1406477 Rio de Janeiro - Brazil | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others
On 6/29/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take it you emerged the gnome meta-package (emerge gnome), which requires evo, epiphany and mozilla (among others), rather than gnome-light, which does not. Yes, I have done that. Portage won't install them now. Unmerged totem and its gst-plugin* (I use mplayer/gmplayer). My processor will thank me for the idle time :) Thank you. -- Bruno Lustosa, aka Lofofora | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator/Web Programmer | ICQ: 1406477 Rio de Janeiro - Brazil | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
--- A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: So there must be a problem w/ the Asus K8N-E(Sempron box) BIOS. I updated it using the tool that came w/ the support CD but it only made matters worse: Did you download the latest BIOS from Asus's site and use that? Yes! I imagine any CD included with a motherboard is old before it hits the shelves... So what? The tool will still work. Kindly read what I wrote! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Holly Bostick wrote: That's it. The only major applications that I can think of that are installed by gnome and not by gnome-light which would remain on the system as orphans are Totem (and it's gstreamer or xine dependencies), and possibly beagle, if that's installed. If you want to keep them, you can re-emerge them alone, so they will be put in your world file, and thus normally updateable. Faster way: echo category/package /var/lib/portage/world -- T.G. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild questions...
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 08:32 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: So revdep-rebuild is currently running on the box but I'm wondering how often the revdep-rebuild needs to be run... Any suggestions from you folks out there in gentoo land? I'm thinking about building a cron script to run early in the morning and, if a recent emerge has taken place, run revdep-rebuild automatically. Does this sound like a good idea or not? I run it automatically every morning with --pretend so that I can see what it thinks needs to be rebuilt. The script I use on my gentoo boxes is available at http://dev.gentoo.org/~fuzzyray/portage.cron That script should give you a good starting point for developing something that meets your needs. It does have a few problems that I haven't fixed yet. The major one being that if the emerge command is unable to determine packages due to packages being masked, it isn't shown in the email message. Does revdep-rebuild rebuild the same version of the packages that are currently installed or will it do a package update from the portage tree? Under normal operation, it will try to rebuild the same package that is installed. If you use the --package-names option, it will rebuild with the latest version that is available. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:27:21 +0300 (EEST), Tero Grundström wrote: If you want to keep them, you can re-emerge them alone, so they will be put in your world file, and thus normally updateable. Faster way: echo category/package /var/lib/portage/world or emerge -n package -- Neil Bothwick I am Superconductor Borg, assimilation resistance is futile. pgpqxUZXBLebJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others
On 6/29/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:27:21 +0300 (EEST), Tero Grundström wrote: If you want to keep them, you can re-emerge them alone, so they will be put in your world file, and thus normally updateable. Faster way: echo category/package /var/lib/portage/world or emerge -n package -n is cool but I think the interestign question is whether there would be value in emerge being able to do something like emerge gnome but leave out Evolution. To get what I wanted here I've emerged gnome-light and then added about 5 or 6 packages by hand. Not a big deal but it would be nice to be able to get all of Gnome and just leave out the parts my family won't be using on their machines. Thanks, Mark converting son's FC2 box to Gentoo Knecht -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:52:49 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: -n is cool but I think the interestign question is whether there would be value in emerge being able to do something like emerge gnome but leave out Evolution. To get what I wanted here I've emerged gnome-light and then added about 5 or 6 packages by hand. Not a big deal but it would be nice to be able to get all of Gnome and just leave out the parts my family won't be using on their machines. Copy the gnome ebuild to something like mygnome and remove the unwanted dependencies. -- Neil Bothwick There is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole. pgpV5zIK8BpJh.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Alsa stops working after 'emerge -uD world'
I just finished running 'emerge -uD world' and everything seemed to go okay. At least in the end it seemed to. I did have some troubles with spamassassin and a couple of other strange dependencies which were not dealt with automatically, but google and archives of such lists as this helped in those areas. But, now I am having all sorts of strange trouble with alsa. When I rebooted I found that my old alsa setup was not working. There was nothing in dmesg about alsa but I saw an alsasound error zoom by on bootup. I couldn't read it unfortunately. So I ran alsaconf again figuring that would take care of things but it did not. I got the expected offer of ens1371 but then I was asked if I wanted to adjust /etc/modules.d/alsa or such but not with the correct module, snd-ens1371, but instead something like snd-*** and liblow. It then shot up a brief error, too fast to read again, and then exited. No alsamixer of course. It now does not give me this, or I would give a more exact quote, but it still gives an error and offers no sound. I can modprobe for snd-ens1371 and adjust the mixer manually, but I cannot get any sound to work at boot and am not sure where to begin. I tried editing the /etc/modules.d/alsa file manually but that did not help. Any ideas? What am I missing? Thanks in advance, Patrick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Another question on mailing cron-job output
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This sounds perfectly reasonable. cron mails you and output the command sends to stdout, so yes, redirecting its output to a file would also prevent cron's email. the crontab lines would look something like: 0 * * * * command /dev/null echo commandTitle done_deals.txt 1 3 * * * cat done_deals.txt rm done_deals.txt man bash for more info on commandline syntax. you could get even sneakier with an 'if' statement (or a combination of and ||), outputting different messages for success and failure of the cron job. compiling successful jobs into a list can be useful, but the modifications to cron to get it done are pretty minimal--I doubt there's much call for an external tool in this case. the default behavior for cron accomplishes something functionally equivalent anyway: it informs you by mail if a job fails. So you'd still know (by process of elimination) which jobs succeeded and which failed. - --myk Holly Bostick wrote: If I: Changed the individual job that I don't want mailed, but want notification of to send it's output to /dev/null (is it only /dev/null, or will cron still mail me if I output to a text file instead?) *and then to* echo the name of the job to (let's say) done_deals.txt after the job completed, and then Made a new cron job that runs last in that time period which sent me the output of cat done_deals.txt (which would hopefully contain the names of all the jobs that completed, but whose actual output was sent to /dev/null or whatever) would that work? It sounds reasonable, although I don't know how to do it (I am so not a command-line jockey), and it also sounds easily repeatable (for cron jobs of all time periods, or if new jobs are added to any time period), which supports it being doable. Does this sound flakey? Does this sound useful? And if it does sound useful, is there any tool that would allow me to create a more global setup in case I wanted to provide this solution to others (i.e. post it on the forums as some kind of script, or package it in some way for Bugzilla)? Holly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCwsrxBOPsJyAQkeARArh+AKCyPhrkqNFdQV4RovfmzBzmjjdr8wCfS6W6 cM+/Ji3FIVOMXNb/djN787g= =SlBP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild questions...
Paul Varner wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 08:32 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: So revdep-rebuild is currently running on the box but I'm wondering how often the revdep-rebuild needs to be run... Any suggestions from you folks out there in gentoo land? I'm thinking about building a cron script to run early in the morning and, if a recent emerge has taken place, run revdep-rebuild automatically. Does this sound like a good idea or not? I run it automatically every morning with --pretend so that I can see what it thinks needs to be rebuilt. The script I use on my gentoo boxes is available at http://dev.gentoo.org/~fuzzyray/portage.cron That script should give you a good starting point for developing something that meets your needs. It does have a few problems that I haven't fixed yet. The major one being that if the emerge command is unable to determine packages due to packages being masked, it isn't shown in the email message. Does revdep-rebuild rebuild the same version of the packages that are currently installed or will it do a package update from the portage tree? Under normal operation, it will try to rebuild the same package that is installed. If you use the --package-names option, it will rebuild with the latest version that is available. Regards, Paul I've just tried running revdep-rebuild after the warning that comes with latest e2fstools. I had some broken dependencies but I have found that revdep-rebuild would not fix all of them so you'd be running it needlessly. It is definitely a tool to run with -p and then examine its output first and try the files it complains about with ldd to see whats missing. For example, I was getting broken deps with respect to some alsa lib and I that was on my server with no sound. This didn't break anything though. I installed alsa just to make it go away. Another one is opera browser which comes up with broken dep on libXm.so.1 in operamotifwrapper-1. Opera has openmotif dependency but openmotif doesnt provide that lib, it provides libXm.so.3. So, you really have to double-check the revdep-rebuild output. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Simple question DVD
Ok so here is my Problem. I install my gentoo box with a stage3. Installing system with a CDburner/dvdreader drive. Down the road i decide to put in a DVD-Burner. Swaping the physical drives out with out changing any thing. My question is can i change the entry in the fstab and symbolic links to point to a DVD device and not a cdrom so as to be able to use DVDrip and some other dvd options mplayer xine? I have googled this alot and searched the forumn but most are to add a dvd drive to a already equipt cdburner or just cd system? Below are a few outputs ls - la /mnt/cdrom drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Jun 7 18:20 . drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Jun 7 18:24 .. -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root0 Apr 22 03:58 .keep -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 229 Jun 7 18:20 CD-ROM Device lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Feb 14 16:07 cdrom - /dev/cdrom/ lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root8 May 13 19:25 hdd - /dev/hdd ls -la /dev/hdd lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 30 Jun 25 20:24 /dev/hdd - ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd ls -la /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 3 Jun 25 20:24 /dev/dvd - hdd /etc/fstab NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts. /dev/hda1 /boot ext2noauto,noatime 1 1 /dev/hda5 / ext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hda6 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro,users 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/dvdiso9660 noauto,ro,users 0 0 /dev/hde6 /usr/portageext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hdc2 /home ext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hde5 /tmpext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/store ext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hdf1 /mnt/extra ext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hdf5 /mnt/closet ext3noatime 0 0 #/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy autonoauto 0 0 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others
On 6/29/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:52:49 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: -n is cool but I think the interestign question is whether there would be value in emerge being able to do something like emerge gnome but leave out Evolution. To get what I wanted here I've emerged gnome-light and then added about 5 or 6 packages by hand. Not a big deal but it would be nice to be able to get all of Gnome and just leave out the parts my family won't be using on their machines. Copy the gnome ebuild to something like mygnome and remove the unwanted dependencies. Right. I've resisted that option as I don't want to be an ebuild maintainer of any sort. Presuming I did that wouldn't I also have to pay attention to new versions of Gnome coming out and update my ebuild over time? If new dependencies were added for Gnome-2.12 I'd have to add or remove things in my ebuild. Being a user type I think it's better for me to just use gnome-light and add what I want when I think I need it. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE font size
hi i'm curious, every other time i boot, GDM and KDE are with bigger fonts. what part is responsible for it? Xorg.0.log has only this: Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/, removing from list! SetClientVersion: 0 8 Martins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: I imagine any CD included with a motherboard is old before it hits the shelves... So what? The tool will still work. Kindly read what I wrote! I *did* read what you wrote. My point was if there was an update on the CD it would be old. You wrote: As it happens, an attempt to update the BIOS on my Asus K8N-E-deluxe using the utility included in the mobo support CD, You did not write something like: As it happens, an attempt to update the BIOS (downloading the latest one from the Asus web site) on my K8N-E-deluxe using the utility included in the mobo support CD, Sorry to split fine hairs with an enormous axe but you might think about that before jumping on people trying to help. -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] konsole font
Philip Webb wrote: 050628 q-parser wrote: I've emerged kde-3.4.1 recently the font in Konsole is different. How do I set it back to normal ? First try the Konsole 'settings' menu - 'font' - 'custom', then try selecting 'Fixed (gnu) regular 13'. That might help. Yes, that's it. Thanks a lot. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OpenOffice2.0 Install
Rumen Yotov rumen_yotov at dir.bg writes: openoffice-bin-1.9.109 is in portage only being in testing (~x86). To emerge it do: #echo app-office/openoffice-bin ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords. Then 'emerge openoffice-bin -av' to emerge it. Haven't checked if it's in rpm-format. I have: app-office/openoffice Latest version available: 1.1.4-r1 Latest version installed: 1.1.4-r1 So if I do this will I have both 1.1.4 (which is currently installed) and 1.9.109 or just the later? What I'm concerned with is that I may need both. I can also put the 1.9.109 on another machine until it becomes more stable. I went to quite a lot of trouble to set up an auto oulining template that may not work in 1.9.109. (But I do need a newer version of ooffice) Advice on this upgrade? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa stops working after 'emerge -uD world'
cothrige wrote: I just finished running 'emerge -uD world' and everything seemed to go okay. At least in the end it seemed to. I did have some troubles with spamassassin and a couple of other strange dependencies which were not dealt with automatically, but google and archives of such lists as this helped in those areas. But, now I am having all sorts of strange trouble with alsa. -snip- I would say u forgot to inform us, that u also rebuilt kernel ... didn't u ? noro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Simple question DVD
B.S wrote: Ok so here is my Problem. I install my gentoo box with a stage3. Installing system with a CDburner/dvdreader drive. Down the road i decide to put in a DVD-Burner. Swaping the physical drives out with out changing any thing. My question is can i change the entry in the fstab and symbolic links to point to a DVD device and not a cdrom so as to be able to use DVDrip and some other dvd options mplayer xine? I have googled this alot and searched the forumn but most are to add a dvd drive to a already equipt cdburner or just cd system? Below are a few outputs ls - la /mnt/cdrom drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Jun 7 18:20 . drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Jun 7 18:24 .. -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root0 Apr 22 03:58 .keep -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 229 Jun 7 18:20 CD-ROM Device lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Feb 14 16:07 cdrom - /dev/cdrom/ lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root8 May 13 19:25 hdd - /dev/hdd ls -la /dev/hdd lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 30 Jun 25 20:24 /dev/hdd - ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd ls -la /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 3 Jun 25 20:24 /dev/dvd - hdd /etc/fstab NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts. /dev/hda1 /boot ext2noauto,noatime 1 1 /dev/hda5 / ext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hda6 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro,users 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/dvdiso9660 noauto,ro,users 0 0 /dev/hde6 /usr/portageext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hdc2 /home ext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hde5 /tmpext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/store ext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hdf1 /mnt/extra ext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hdf5 /mnt/closet ext3noatime 0 0 #/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy autonoauto 0 0 It seems u misunderstood some things completely :-). Symlink from /mnt dir to a node seems crazy for me. On unix/linux system /mnt directory (usually) contains mount points, i.e. empty directories (but not symlinks to nodes) to which u can mount filesystems accessible via node files from /dev dir. RTFM mount. Try this: # rm /mnt/cdrom # mkdir /mnt/cdrom # mount /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom To your question: ... can i change the entry in the fstab and symbolic links to point to a DVD device and not a cdrom ... Yes, u can change symlink to DVD, but (usually) it's not necessary to modify /etc/fstab, but if u like to use it (read files), u have to mount it ... HTH noro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
maxim wexler wrote: Maxim, if you want the system to boot from the hard disk, I really think you have no choice but to repartition and re-install the system, with boot as the first partition. On the Sempron there are two HDs, the 120G, pri-mast and a 3.5G(fat32) as a pri-slave. LBA is set to auto in the BIOS for both drives but it only appears on in the POST screen for the 3.5G. I put the 120G as pri-slave in the K6 box along w/ a 10G master(gentoo-2004.3) and it does come up as on for both of them albeit only 65G of the 120G available is reported, probably because of the more primitive(c.2000) BIOS. So there must be a problem w/ the Asus K8N-E(Sempron box) BIOS. I updated it using the tool that came w/ the support CD but it only made matters worse: Not only does LBA remain off for the 120G, XP Pro won't boot, even though the boot.ini console opens. I've contacted Asus but they haven't replied yet. I bought it two months ago; maybe they'll let me have a new one. If LBA were on that would solve my problem wouldn't it? Ok, I did some more checking and reading about the various interfaces for accessing disk drives. If you have some time, take a look at: http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/hist.html In ancient times, we were limited to ~512MB addressable through the BIOS int13h instructions, with 1024 cylinders, 16 heads, and 63 sectors/track. LBA translation got us to ~8.2GB addressable with 1024 cylinders, 255 heads, and 63 sectors/track. The limit with the int 13h extensions interface is some ridiculously large value... Of course I am ignoring pre-historic times when the disk geometry actually did reflect the physical number heads and cylinders in the drive. So basically, if the BIOS, disk, and controller all support Int13h extensions, and LBA mode is enabled, there should be no problem loading the stage2 or kernel from anywhere on that disk. So yes, I believe that if you can get LBA mode to be enabled, you should be able to boot. But getting to that point may involve rebuilding the system anyway. I found an interesting note in the user manual for the K8N-E. It says: oops, PDF is now corrupt...and ASUS's web site is way too damn slow for me to try and download it again...so I will paraphrase It said that LBA mode will be disabled if the disk was formatted without LBA being enabled. It was light on the details, but I assume that really means partitioned with 16 heads instead of 255. Now, the Asus brd does have raid capability. Would that be a way out of this morass? How does raid work? You can try plugging the disk into the controller, but ignore the RAID functionalities. This is usually called JBOD (just a bunch of disks) mode. But I think you still have the same fundamental problem...how to get LBA mode enabled. I've never used it before. Failing that is there a way to copy non-destructively the partition containing WinXP and move it up enough to make room for a boot partition at /dev/hda1? PartitionMagic is the best for this, but at $70 it is a bit pricey. There may be free programs to do this, but I have no experience with them. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
that before jumping on people trying to help. Smart Alec! Help my eye! __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver
El Jueves 30 Junio 2005 00:20, XXOmega21XX escribió: --- Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 January 2005 03:19, Rui Silva wrote: hello ppl i'm thinking on buying a new notebook computer. the model i'm interested has a ATI 9700 128Mb graphic card. R300 based How are the drivers for this graphic card?? Is ATI LInux driver good enough?? i'm not going to play games. just the aplications commonly used. What about video out?? does it work?? the instalation is smooth or not?? share your experiences please, help me decide For Desktop Use you´ll be perfectly happy with Xorg radeon drivers. They work perfectly here on an Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo, which is the same chip with a lower frequency AFAIK). You´ll get: Video-Out support (Including Clone, Xinerama and ext. only), Dynamic Clock frequency, Working Hibernate/Suspend to Ram (With hibernate-script and vbetool). Basically everything works except DRI and TV-Out. (Which work with the ATI-Drivers). Feel free to contact me if you run into troubles. I´ll happily share my xorg.conf. Benny -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi. I have a similar question. My Laptop (Toshiba Satellite A70) does have SVideo Out, and I really need that to work. I saw on the ATI site that their propriatary Linux drivers were not for notebooks. Is that true, and is there an extra package (open source) I could emerge for Open Source support on SVideo? For the record, its an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000. Thanks!!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Well, I do own a Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO with ATI RADEON 9700 and IT DOES WORK PERFECTLY with ati-drivers, so I think that it works with laptops... Bye. -- You know you're brilliant, but maybe you'd like to understand what you did 2 weeks from now. - Linus Torvalds Gentoo GNU/Linux. pgpiHLIf2OuDV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OpenOffice2.0 Install
James wrote: I have: app-office/openoffice Latest version available: 1.1.4-r1 Latest version installed: 1.1.4-r1 So if I do this will I have both 1.1.4 (which is currently installed) and 1.9.109 or just the later? What I'm concerned with is that I may need both. I can also put the 1.9.109 on another machine until it becomes more stable. I went to quite a lot of trouble to set up an auto oulining template that may not work in 1.9.109. (But I do need a newer version of ooffice) Advice on this upgrade? James Make a tbz2 package of openoffice-1.1.4-r1 in case you want it back later. quickpkg =app-office/openoffice-1.1.4-r1 emerge unmerge openoffice echo =app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.87 /etc/portage/package.unmask echo app-office/openoffice-bin ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge openoffice-bin When you are using openoffice-bin-1.9, save your files in openoffice 1.0 file formats so that you can still open them if you need to go back. If you need to go back: emerge unmerge openoffice-bin emerge --usepkgonly openoffice Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE font size
Martins Steinbergs wrote: hi i'm curious, every other time i boot, GDM and KDE are with bigger fonts. what part is responsible for it? Xorg.0.log has only this: Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/, removing from list! SetClientVersion: 0 8 Martins Maybe it's your dpi setting? You can use xdpyinfo | grep resolution to see what dpi X is using. You can control dpi with the X -dpi option or the DisplaySize in xorg.conf. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge -auDv world question
Good evening, This evening I ran across something I have have not seen in my long experience with Gentoo (about 2 months now). I just did an # emerge --sync # emerge -auDv world which returned Calculating world dependencies - !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/libperl-5.8.6 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-devel/libperl-5.8.6 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or section 2.2 Software Availability in the Gentoo Handbook. !!!(dependency required by dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r4 [ebuild]) Am i reading this right? A stable package has an unstable dependency ! Please let me know if you beleive this is an error in the perl ebuild. Thanks, John -- The revolution will not be televised. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OpenOffice2.0 Install
Zac Medico zmedico at gmail.com writes: So if I do this will I have both 1.1.4 (which is currently installed) and 1.9.109 or just the later? What I'm concerned with is that I may need both. I can also put the 1.9.109 on another machine until it becomes more stable. I went to quite a lot of trouble to set up an auto oulining template that may not work in 1.9.109. Make a tbz2 package of openoffice-1.1.4-r1 in case you want it back later. quickpkg =app-office/openoffice-1.1.4-r1 emerge unmerge openoffice echo =app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.87 /etc/portage/package.unmask echo app-office/openoffice-bin ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge openoffice-bin When you are using openoffice-bin-1.9, save your files in openoffice 1.0 file formats so that you can still open them if you need to go back. If you need to go back: emerge unmerge openoffice-bin emerge --usepkgonly openoffice Well I just decided to run with the newer package a week or 2 on another system. So I did this (part of what you suggested): emerge unmerge openoffice echo =app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.87 /etc/portage/package.unmask echo app-office/openoffice-bin ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge openoffice-bin Works like a charm! Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Copy portage tree
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 05:49 pm, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I have one computer that currently does not have internet access. Can I copy a freshly sync'ed portage tree (/usr/portage/*) from another computer to this one? Or does the tree have some sort of per-computer dependencies (use-flags, etc.)? Hello Tony, I do this all the time. I use rsync to do it for me, the command I use is: rsync -auvz -e ssh --delete /usr/portage/ calvin.systura.home:/usr/portage/ Sean Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- Sean Higgins, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.systura.com - Where information becomes knowledge. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] telnet into embedded devices
On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 00:59 +, James wrote: Hello, I often use telnet to connect to (embedded) devices on a local network, devices which do not support ssh. On both Debian and Gentoo systems I just delete the default route out and set a second (sub)interface on the ethernet port like this: [snip] My actual question may or may not be related to the use of a sub interface. When I telnet into the devices from a similarly setup Debian system, I get a very fast response. When I telnet into the devices from a gentoo system, it takes 30-50s (estimate) for the login prompt response. It's almost as those telnet is set up to use ssh, but times out and then defaults to real telnet? Before I start, I know nothing about differences between telnet on debian and telne on gentoo. You may look there first to see if one does weird things, like you say. there are a couple of things I would to to see what's happening. Firstly, make sure your gentoo and debian box are either exactly the same box, or are on exactly the same switch. You never know just what your sysadmin has done (even if you think you know, you could be surprised!) Then try traceroute or something similar and see if the path to your embedded device is the same from each box. If not, there's your answer. If it is the same, then I'd probably try ethereal and capture the output to each box and compare it. That's how I found out ftp was trying ssl first with an embedded device that didn't support it, before trying normal ftp. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Failed Cache Update
I get Failed Cache Update when I run emerge sync. What is this error? How does one go about correcting it? -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa stops working after 'emerge -uD world'
* Norbert Kamenicky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: cothrige wrote: I just finished running 'emerge -uD world' and everything seemed to go okay. At least in the end it seemed to. I did have some troubles with spamassassin and a couple of other strange dependencies which were not dealt with automatically, but google and archives of such lists as this helped in those areas. But, now I am having all sorts of strange trouble with alsa. -snip- I would say u forgot to inform us, that u also rebuilt kernel ... didn't u ? No, actually, I didn't. I was very happy with the kernel I compiled with the installation and had no reason to change that. But, at least I may have thought of that as a problem if I had since that never failed to kill alsaconf when I used Slackware. As a matter of fact alsa never really worked right for me then, but didn't work at all after a kernel compile. And only about half the time could I ever correct the problem. In any case, I think I have just solved the alsa problem, though I wonder if I really know what I did wrong. It would seem that my ignorance and newbieness in matters Gentoo is to blame (Duh!). In order to slow down the alsaconf messages I had to compile a program and then run it during that process. In this way I was able to see that alsasound had no start function. I looked at /etc/init.d/alsasound and saw that it was virtually blank. It had one line of some kind but I don't recall what it was. It would seem that knowing that my files would be saved to the archive folder I had gotten a little bold when running dispatch-conf. But, I copied the old file back from the archive and ran alsaconf again. This time it seemed to work, though things still look funny. In alsamixer there is no way to choose a record source. It used to have red dashes over those items which could be captured, and when selected they told you, but now there is nothing of that sort, and no capture control either, which it used to have. Audacity does act like it can record though as it gives me no errors and the record source does offer the typical choices my card offers. Maybe there is just something odd in the alsamixer screen now? Strange anyway. I do wonder if it will work on reboot, and I don't know if I should run rc-update on alsasound again. Would that have actually have corrected the problem in the first place? I fear that I really hate alsa which never seems to work right for me ever, no matter which distro I use or how I compile my kernels, and now with Gentoo things to consider I am somewhat lost. Patrick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] telnet into embedded devices
On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 13:39 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:59:17 + (UTC) James wrote: 1. If this is not what's happening, what is to cause telnet to react so slowly? probably dns - most servers do a reverse dns lookup when a client connects, and if the lookup does not work the timeout can be quite noticeably long. Based on my experience, I concur with Nick's analysis that it is a DNS lookup timeout. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (A bit OT) Gentoo on a Dell OptiPlex G1
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 05:20:42PM -0400, Colin wrote
Taking a guess here:
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fstack-protector
From my PIII's /etc/make.conf
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -msse -mfpmath=sse
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=-j1
To confirm the mmx and sse flags, boot any linux live CD, and execute
cat /proc/cpuinfo
The FLAGS line should contain mmx and sse. You should also have
mmx and sse in your USE variable.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa stops working after 'emerge -uD world'
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:24:18 -0500 cothrige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would seem that knowing that my files would be saved to the archive folder I had gotten a little bold when running dispatch-conf. But, I copied the old file back from the archive and ran alsaconf again. This time it seemed to work, though things still look funny. The old file may not be completely functional for the current alsa. It seems that you might just need ro re-emerge alsa-utils and run dispatch-conf, choosing u to overwrite /etc/init.d/alsasound. I do wonder if it will work on reboot, and I don't know if I should run rc-update on alsasound again. Yes it will work as it does now. Do a - ls -l /etc/runlevels/boot You'll see that it's just a link that rc-update creates. Would that have actually have corrected the problem in the first place? No. I fear that I really hate alsa which never seems to work right for me ever, no matter which distro I use or how I compile my kernels, and now with Gentoo things to consider I am somewhat lost. Alsa can seem difficult, but, in most cases the problem lies elsewhere. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
