Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 partition dissapeared :(
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 18:05, Sigfrido V. Ortiz C. wrote: > Try fsck --help > then select the options related to recovery and repair the system > file at least twice, then reboot your system with "shutdown -b now" > > Based in my experience this occur after shutdown by power fault and > not by command. > The format must be fsck -p -f /dev/partition_name > > the flag -p will repair automatically your system and the flag -f > force the revision even the file system appear like clean. > Good luck!!! > Sigfrido Hi, Please don't top post. If you know the fsck command then you know why I have asked this. I wouldn't advise that the OP follows your advise - from the way he wrote his post it is very likely he doesn't know a whole lot about filesystems and fsck programs. So he will blindly enter your commands, forcing an action to occur and potentially causing further loss without him having much of a clue about what he has just done. The force flag is useful, after you get an output from fsck and you know what it will do and are prepared to accept the loss. jcd isn't in that position. jcd, what you should do is gather information about what happened and try figure it out. If you can't, lots of people here will decrypt it for you (as much as possible) then tell you what to do and explain what will happen as a result. The golden rule: don't ever run a file system checker blindly without some understanding of what it's doing. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 January 2007 13:11, jcd wrote: > >>Hi. > >>I'm in bad situation. I have two physical disks. First (DiskA) have > >>200GB and second (DiskB) have 160GB capacity. On DiskB I have Linux > >>partitions and some data partitions. On DiskA I had had 40GB NTFS > >>(Windows) and 160GB NTFS partitions (data), but I already deleted > >>Windows partition. So, I copied data from 160GB partition on DiskA > >> to temporary space on DiskB, then I deleted remaining NTFS > >> partition on DiskA and created one 200GB ext3 partition (I think > >> so. In cfdsik I chose partition type '83 Linux') and then > >> formatted it 'mke2fs -j /dev/sdb1'. Then I copied (moved :( ) all > >> the data back to DiskA and everuthing was fine. It was yesterday. > >> Today I started PC and at startup init said "Some local > >> filesystems failed to mount". OK, in /etc/fstab I have "/dev/sdb1 > >> /mnt/zaloha ext3 noatime 0 2" ... it seems to be good. I also > >> tried to change ext2, but with both 'mount -a' says: > >>mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, > >> missing codepage or other error > >> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try > >> dmesg | tail or so. > >>In /var/log/messages I found just "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem > >> on dev sdb1" :((. When I try just 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha', > >> at /mnt/zaloha I have mounted that old Windows partition that I > >> already deleted. Do you know any solution how can I get back my > >> ext3 partition to get back my data please? And what could be cause > >> of this problem or when I can find what is the cause? Thanks very > >> very much. > > > > You've given lots of words, but very very little information, not > > even the commands you used to perform these actions. Without this > > info it becomes very hard to help you out. > > > > Meantime, please provide the output of the following commands: > > > > fdisk -l > > fsck /dev/sdb1 > > mount /dev/sdb1 /some/mount/point > > > > and we'll take it from there > > > > alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 partition dissapeared :(
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 19:47, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > Did you reboot between changing the partition layout and creating > that new partition (and moving data)? Otherwise the kernel wouldn't > be aware of the new partition layout. Well, if everything you wrote > is correct, that data should have ended up on that former Windows > partition and that partition should now be an ext3 one. But if you > just didn't care and mounted the old linux partition (sdb2 at that > point in time before the new partition layout), copied data and you > _then_ rebooted -- then you would have written your data to a > partition that was only a reminiscence in the kernel's structures and > not > corresponding to what cfdisk wrote to the HD. That would be an > explanation why the next boot failed. > > > When I do "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha" at /mnt/zaloha I see that > > old Windows NTFS partition that I already deleted (There are > > "Program Files", "WINDOWS", ...). I don't understand why (somewhere > > I read that ext3 start writing at the middle of the disk space to > > prevent defragmentation). > > Deleting the partition is something that only affects the boot > sector. Ext3 should in fact have overwritten this with it's first > superblock. So the mkext2fs you issued did definitively hit the wrong > partition. > > So my suggestion is: try "gpart -w ext2,1.5 /dev/sdb" to find your > partition (even better: write back the backup you've made from the > old partition table. Errrm...) Some background here to elaborate on what Hans has said: It looks like when you moved the data onto the new partition, it got written somewhere on the disk. However, the kernel's idea of how the partitions are laid out at that time and what fdisk just wrote to the disk probably don't agree and the kernel had got it wrong This does happen when you delete two or more partitions and create one large one. That's the bad news. The good news is that unless you did something to wipe the disk clean, the data is there somewhere and you need to find it. Hans' gpart command will search the disk looking for the sequence of data that is found at the start of a filesystem, and will then make a smart estimate as to what the partition ought to look like. The next good news is that you can create and delete partitions many times and still get the data back intact as long as you don't overwrite it. fdisk updates the partition table right at the start of the disk and does nothing else so you can always undo these changes. Until you are happy that everything is back it will be smart to mount this partition read-only so it can't be changed: mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 /path/to/mount/point You say in your original mail that after moving the data "everything was fine". What exactly do you mean by that: 1. The command ended without failure so you assume it moved stuff correctly, or 2. You proved the move was done by mounting the partition and all your files were there, or 3. Some other reason? alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not starting with eth0, router not giving IP
What kind of router is it? I'm assuming you are running dhcpd on your router, can you access it from windows and check if dhcpd is enabled? -- #Joseph On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 18:51 -0500, Samuel Baldwin wrote: > Hello. > > Recently after rebooting from Windows to Gentoo, I noticed I had no > internet access. > My router, which is set to give my mac address the same IP > (192.168.0.104), seems to > have decided NOT to do this anymore. Nothing has changed in my > settings on either my computer > or the router. I get the same thing for every OS (Gentoo LiveCD, > Gentoo installed, SuSE installed) > besides windows. I'm totally stumped. Sometimes eth0 gets enabled at > startup but gets no IP (SuSE), > other times (Gentoo & Gentoo LiveCD) it doesn't and I have to run > ifconfig eth0 up. > > Running "route add eth0 192.168.0.1" returns "eth0: Host name lookup > failure" > > ifconfig returns: > > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:17:18:D5:4A > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:498 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:2 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:152940 (149.3 Kb) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) > Interrupt:19 base address:0xe000 > > lo Link encap: Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:1188 (1.1 Kb) TX bytes:1188 (1.1 b) > > Any help would be apreciated, I'm stumped. > > -- > Samuel (shardz) > > Shardz's Igloo: > shardz.homelinux.net > > Registered Linux User #410639 > > amarok.kde.org > defectivebydesign.org > usmc.mil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] naim asks for password then nothing
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 03:52:03PM -0500, Penguin Lover Randy Barlow squawked: > It seems to be a versioning problem. The stable version of naim in > portage is quite outdated (from 2004) and the newest version was > released in October 2006. There is a bug report[1] for the version > bump, and the new version is in ~arch for several architectures. Hum, you are right. I just emerged the latest ~x86 on my testing box and it connects like a charm. W -- Pintsize: I'm always naked! Sortir en Pantoufles: up 47 days, 3:53 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC Failing
On 1/23/07, Pierre-Yves Rofes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, January 22, 2007 8:49 pm, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 19:33 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote: >> (presumably good -- only let >> memtest run for about 3 minutes) > > You should probably test it much longer than 3 minutes before you can be > confident that the 256 MB chip doesn't have issues... > Indeed, 1 hour is the bare minimum for a memtest, and ideally you should let it run for about 7-8 hours (during one night for exemple)... Well, I tested it all last night and still came up with no failures. I have tried booting into Windows (yuck) and it works reasonably well so I am guessing a problem with my Gentoo installation. I wanted to do a complete reinstall of everything (mostly due to swapping my hard drives), so I can live with the situation for the time being. Thanks to everyone who helped-- I probably would have ended up with a specialist just for this faulty memory. Cheers, Vlad -- How's my English? How about my Netiquette? Do mail me if something is wrong with my behaviour. Thank you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unmasking USE flags
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: > On Tuesday 23 January 2007 22:28, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > > Is there some approved way to unmask a USE flag that your profile masks? > > (Maybe only for certain packages?) I need "multilib" for > > cross-arm-elf/newlib, and x86 profiles have it masked. > > > > (For that matter, arm profiles seem to also have it masked, despite at > > least some arm devices having two ISAs) > > I seriously doubt it'll work but unmasking a use flag is easy.. Why wouldn't it work? I'm working around an infelicity in crossdev-enabled packages, where the USE flag for supporting multiple ABIs for the target is masked by the profile for the build host, which is actually totally irrelevant to the --enable-multilib configure option to (e.g.) newlib. Is there some way to specify a totally different profile (per ARCH) for cross-ARCH/* packages? (Ideally, it would only be somewhat seperate, in case the build arch needs to determine some of the stuff, while the target arch determines most of the important stuff for this sort of package.) In any case, /etc/portage/profile is what I needed to know, thanks. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank*
[gentoo-user] Gentoo not starting with eth0, router not giving IP
Hello. Recently after rebooting from Windows to Gentoo, I noticed I had no internet access. My router, which is set to give my mac address the same IP (192.168.0.104), seems to have decided NOT to do this anymore. Nothing has changed in my settings on either my computer or the router. I get the same thing for every OS (Gentoo LiveCD, Gentoo installed, SuSE installed) besides windows. I'm totally stumped. Sometimes eth0 gets enabled at startup but gets no IP (SuSE), other times (Gentoo & Gentoo LiveCD) it doesn't and I have to run ifconfig eth0 up. Running "route add eth0 192.168.0.1" returns "eth0: Host name lookup failure" ifconfig returns: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:17:18:D5:4A UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:498 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:2 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:152940 (149.3 Kb) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:19 base address:0xe000 lo Link encap: Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1188 (1.1 Kb) TX bytes:1188 (1.1 b) Any help would be apreciated, I'm stumped. -- Samuel (shardz) Shardz's Igloo: shardz.homelinux.net Registered Linux User #410639 amarok.kde.org defectivebydesign.org usmc.mil
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a home router
Hi all, i solved my problem by the help of the shorewall mailing list. The shorewall maintainer Tom Eastep helped me with a quick answer. It has nothing to do with shorewall so there is no file of shorewall causing this troubles. When i set up internet connection with pppoe-setup i have activated the FIREWALL=STANDALONE setting in /etc/pppoe.conf. This loads a iptables rule set which overwrites my custom iptables, this may have also caused my problems with shorewall. Nevertheless thank you all for trying to help me so much. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unmasking USE flags
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 22:28, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > Is there some approved way to unmask a USE flag that your profile masks? > (Maybe only for certain packages?) I need "multilib" for > cross-arm-elf/newlib, and x86 profiles have it masked. > > (For that matter, arm profiles seem to also have it masked, despite at > least some arm devices having two ISAs) I seriously doubt it'll work but unmasking a use flag is easy.. # mkdir -p /etc/portage/profile To unmask it globally: # echo '-multilib' >> /etc/portage/profile/use.mask Or on a per package basis (note: for this to work properly requires portage 2.1.2 which isn't stable quite yet): # echo 'cross-arm-elf/newlib -multilib' >> /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask -- Bo Andresen pgpj21TiIiFFK.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Unmasking USE flags
Is there some approved way to unmask a USE flag that your profile masks? (Maybe only for certain packages?) I need "multilib" for cross-arm-elf/newlib, and x86 profiles have it masked. (For that matter, arm profiles seem to also have it masked, despite at least some arm devices having two ISAs) -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] naim asks for password then nothing
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 21:52, Randy Barlow wrote: > It seems to be a versioning problem. The stable version of naim in > portage is quite outdated (from 2004) and the newest version was > released in October 2006. There is a bug report[1] for the version > bump, and the new version is in ~arch for several architectures. > > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151956 > > Hopefully it will stabilize sometime soon :) It's been in the tree for only 10 days. Wait till it's been in the tree for 30 days and then file a new bug requesting stabilization on your arch(es). In the mean time just use package.keywords for that package. It's not like keywording it stable now magically makes it more stable. -- Bo Andresen pgpNWgKdt1KgN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] naim asks for password then nothing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Willie Wong wrote: > That said, if you do find a solution, I'd much appreciate if you post > it here. Also, you could try contacting upstream http://naim.n.ml.org > I hear they are good people and very willing to help. It seems to be a versioning problem. The stable version of naim in portage is quite outdated (from 2004) and the newest version was released in October 2006. There is a bug report[1] for the version bump, and the new version is in ~arch for several architectures. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151956 Hopefully it will stabilize sometime soon :) R -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtnVzhOwpC65EoKARAgNsAJ9n/iXvReyn/kheH0K78QPBrWKgFACeMzOc C7m6iytf7vlTa7DV53IPyQU= =aj5V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x11 display as v4l device
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > I thought about this thing. I can't image what you're actually trying > to archieve. Is this for recording? Streaming/broadcasting? Why does > v4l compatibility matter? Maybe mpeg-out would be sufficient, or even a > raw video stream (i.e. by other means than v4l). Because Flash for Linux supports "webcam streaming". And, as I want to stream the screen and avoid not using flash (as I have a strong feeling it's gonna be open sourced soon), then having my screen display be viewable from flash as a webcam seems the most logical solution. Of course, I am fully open to suggestions. I've read about x11-drivers/xf86-video-v4l. Any comments? - -- Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica ¿No sabés a dónde ir a comer o tomar algo? Visitá www.vivamoslavida.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtm26AlpOsGhXcE0RAgeZAJ9OaPc+M3FhIFoK0PKgDSPWjsPyogCePMew 06Z84mrzavXxyckxfz9SJ78= =uWMO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox VERY slow on launch
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 07:36:15PM +, Gabriel Rossetti wrote: > Hello, > > I just reinstalled everything and Firefox takes about 3-5 mins to load > the first time. After that it is very fast. Does anyone have an idea as > of why this is happening? I tried deleting my ~/.mozilla directory but > that doesn't help. This is not the firefox binary ebuild/install but the > regular ebuild. See if you have the line 127.0.0.1 localhost in your /etc/hosts file. It might be a DNS lookup timeout issue. -- Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.net "Backups are for people who don't pray." -- big Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Direct rendering on a Radeon
Jan Stępień wrote: > If I understand it correctly, this means that if I want a 3D > acceleration I've got to use closed ATI's fglrx, No, there is constant development on the R300 front. What versions of Mesa, x11-drm, and libdrm do you have installed? For which apps run for sure with 3D accel on an R300 see: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300Application For more info and configuration see: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon Benno -- Cetere mi opinias ke ne ĉio tradukenda estas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox VERY slow on launch
Gabriel Rossetti wrote: Hello, I just reinstalled everything and Firefox takes about 3-5 mins to load the first time. After that it is very fast. Does anyone have an idea as of why this is happening? I tried deleting my ~/.mozilla directory but that doesn't help. This is not the firefox binary ebuild/install but the regular ebuild. Thank you, Gabriel Hey! Try starting firefox in the shell and paste the output you get. I had a similar problem as firefox couldn't load some libs properly. Best Regards Jay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dbus fails to emerge
Markus Schönhaber wrote: Mick wrote: Just upgraded to the latest dbus- and as I ran revdep-rebuild afterwards this horrible failure occurred: [...] !!! ERROR: sys-apps/pmount-0.9.9 failed. [...] Any ideas? Update pmount to 0.9.13. On x86 it's stable already. BTW: in contrast to what the subject of your post says, dbus din't fail to emerge, right? Regards mks Have you attempted to emerge pmount using 'emerge' ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dbus fails to emerge
Markus Schönhaber wrote: Mick wrote: Just upgraded to the latest dbus- and as I ran revdep-rebuild afterwards this horrible failure occurred: [...] !!! ERROR: sys-apps/pmount-0.9.9 failed. [...] Any ideas? Update pmount to 0.9.13. On x86 it's stable already. BTW: in contrast to what the subject of your post says, dbus din't fail to emerge, right? Regards mks You mean revdep-rebuild failed. ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox VERY slow on launch
Hello, I just reinstalled everything and Firefox takes about 3-5 mins to load the first time. After that it is very fast. Does anyone have an idea as of why this is happening? I tried deleting my ~/.mozilla directory but that doesn't help. This is not the firefox binary ebuild/install but the regular ebuild. Thank you, Gabriel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x11 display as v4l device
Hi again, On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:38:47 -0300 "Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > > Probably not. Since V4L is a kernel interface, you would need a dummy > > driver in the kernel. Probably the easiest way to archieve what you > > want is to write a module that provides a v4l interface to a dummy > > framebuffer. Not that I'm volunteering... > > It seems I'll have to write it, or pay someone to do it. If anyone's willing, > let me know. I thought about this thing. I can't image what you're actually trying to archieve. Is this for recording? Streaming/broadcasting? Why does v4l compatibility matter? Maybe mpeg-out would be sufficient, or even a raw video stream (i.e. by other means than v4l). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] naim asks for password then nothing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Willie Wong wrote: > That said, if you do find a solution, I'd much appreciate if you post > it here. Also, you could try contacting upstream http://naim.n.ml.org > I hear they are good people and very willing to help. I'll see what upstream says - thanks! > (Also, have you made sure your account is not suspended? I.e. try > logging on using another AIM client?) Yeah, I can log onto gaim just fine on a different machine, but the particular machine I'd like to try naim on isn't going to have X. Thanks! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtk7AhOwpC65EoKARAjjjAKCUt/lJ+qQp9fnl8oJun9vX0AHZkwCeKScs +Z675XVHXB/F9VOY71d7Qxg= =cELz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 partition dissapeared :(
Hi, On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:17:58 +0100 jcd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So, I copied data from 160GB partition on DiskA to > > > temporary space on DiskB, then I deleted remaining NTFS partition on > > > DiskA and created one 200GB ext3 partition (I think so. In cfdsik I > > > chose partition type '83 Linux') and then formatted it 'mke2fs > > > -j /dev/sdb1'. Then I copied (moved :( ) all the data back to DiskA > > > and everuthing was fine. Did you reboot between changing the partition layout and creating that new partition (and moving data)? Otherwise the kernel wouldn't be aware of the new partition layout. Well, if everything you wrote is correct, that data should have ended up on that former Windows partition and that partition should now be an ext3 one. But if you just didn't care and mounted the old linux partition (sdb2 at that point in time before the new partition layout), copied data and you _then_ rebooted -- then you would have written your data to a partition that was only a reminiscence in the kernel's structures and not corresponding to what cfdisk wrote to the HD. That would be an explanation why the next boot failed. > When I do "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha" at /mnt/zaloha I see that old > Windows NTFS partition that I already deleted (There are "Program > Files", "WINDOWS", ...). I don't understand why (somewhere I read that > ext3 start writing at the middle of the disk space to prevent > defragmentation). Deleting the partition is something that only affects the boot sector. Ext3 should in fact have overwritten this with it's first superblock. So the mkext2fs you issued did definitively hit the wrong partition. So my suggestion is: try "gpart -w ext2,1.5 /dev/sdb" to find your partition (even better: write back the backup you've made from the old partition table. Errrm...) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [UDEV] No network on startup
Richard Fish wrote: On 1/22/07, Jakob Buchgraber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello! So I downgraded to udev-103 again and now I get the error message (on startup) that /lib/udev/net.sh cannot be executed, because this file doesn't exist! I also tried reemerging udev, but it didn't help. What kernel version are you using. I suspect the problem with -104 may be due to using an older kernel version. Also downgrading udev can be tricky, because it may leave orphaned files around (which seems to be the problem you are having with -103). A guideline when upgrading udev: - be sure to run etc-update/dispatch-conf and accept any file modifications for /etc/udev/rules.d/. The only file you should modify in here is 10-local.rules, and udev shouldn't touch it. A guideline when downgrading udev: - run etc-update/dispatch-conf just as when upgrading - Also check each file in /etc/udev/rules.d with "equery belongs" to find any orphans and consider removing them. Again, your rules in 10-local.rules should be ok to keep. -Richard Thanks for your reply! I already fixed the problem with the udev error messages by simply deleting /et/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (and reemerging udev) as this file was not update correctly despite running etc-update! I am now running udev-104 which works fine for me :-) Thanks! Best Regards Jay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] naim asks for password then nothing
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:38:18PM -0500, Penguin Lover Randy Barlow squawked: > Howdy all, > > I'm trying to get naim to work, but am having no success so far. When > I type /connect S/N, it asks me to type my password and then hit enter. > I type the password, hit enter, and then nothing. Any ideas? Not a suggestion per se, but, my personal experience says to just give up. There was once a period where it was my aim client of choice between 2002 - 2004, and sometime around 2005 the connection becomes flaky and I haven't been able to get it connect a single time in 2006. And incidentally, the current stable naim release is just about that old I think. That said, if you do find a solution, I'd much appreciate if you post it here. Also, you could try contacting upstream http://naim.n.ml.org I hear they are good people and very willing to help. (Also, have you made sure your account is not suspended? I.e. try logging on using another AIM client?) Best, W -- Murphy's Law of Government: If anything can go wrong, it will do so in triplicate. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 46 days, 14:26 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 partition dissapeared :(
Alan McKinnon píše v Út 23. 01. 2007 v 16:39 +0100: > On Tuesday 23 January 2007 13:11, jcd wrote: > > Hi. > > I'm in bad situation. I have two physical disks. First (DiskA) have > > 200GB and second (DiskB) have 160GB capacity. On DiskB I have Linux > > partitions and some data partitions. On DiskA I had had 40GB NTFS > > (Windows) and 160GB NTFS partitions (data), but I already deleted > > Windows partition. So, I copied data from 160GB partition on DiskA to > > temporary space on DiskB, then I deleted remaining NTFS partition on > > DiskA and created one 200GB ext3 partition (I think so. In cfdsik I > > chose partition type '83 Linux') and then formatted it 'mke2fs > > -j /dev/sdb1'. Then I copied (moved :( ) all the data back to DiskA > > and everuthing was fine. It was yesterday. Today I started PC and at > > startup init said "Some local filesystems failed to mount". OK, in > > /etc/fstab I have "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha ext3 noatime 0 2" ... it > > seems to be good. I also tried to change ext2, but with both 'mount > > -a' says: > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, > >missing codepage or other error > >In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try > >dmesg | tail or so. > > In /var/log/messages I found just "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on > > dev sdb1" :((. When I try just 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha', > > at /mnt/zaloha I have mounted that old Windows partition that I > > already deleted. Do you know any solution how can I get back my ext3 > > partition to get back my data please? And what could be cause of this > > problem or when I can find what is the cause? Thanks very very much. > > You've given lots of words, but very very little information, not even > the commands you used to perform these actions. Without this info it > becomes very hard to help you out. > > Meantime, please provide the output of the following commands: > > fdisk -l > fsck /dev/sdb1 > mount /dev/sdb1 /some/mount/point > > and we'll take it from there > > alan > OK. Here it is (I confused First disk capacity, 250GB instead of 200GB): #fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes 240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 32301 cylinders Units = cylindry of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 32301 244195528+ 83 Linux #fsck /dev/sdb1 fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006) e2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006) Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb1 The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 When I do "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha" at /mnt/zaloha I see that old Windows NTFS partition that I already deleted (There are "Program Files", "WINDOWS", ...). I don't understand why (somewhere I read that ext3 start writing at the middle of the disk space to prevent defragmentation). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:07:46 + Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:12:07 -0800 (PST), Eric Bohn wrote: > > > Using Portage you're putting yourself at the mercy of any Joe Schmoe > > with a proxy connection to a Gentoo server that wants to compromise > > your machine. > > How so? They'd have to get a compromised source tarball on the > distfiles mirrors and a hacked ebuild into the CVS tree. Getting a > hacked ebuild on the servers isn't enough, it would be replaced in no > more than fifteen minutes. > > Why is this easier than getting a compromised RPM onto a Red Hat or > SUSE server? > > Hi Neil, It'll be the same when the 'new' Manifest2 format is fully implemented. Haven't checked but you need at least ebuild&eclass GPG-signing, etc. There was a discussion (on some Gentoo ML, IIRC 'security') a year or more ago, some very ancient Bug was mentioned. RPMs are signed (but check this again), BTW debs are too. The work is going on this, but i've no info about the progress made. HTH. Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 partition dissapeared :(
Try fsck --help then select the options related to recovery and repair the system file at least twice, then reboot your system with "shutdown -b now" Based in my experience this occur after shutdown by power fault and not by command. The format must be fsck -p -f /dev/partition_name the flag -p will repair automatically your system and the flag -f force the revision even the file system appear like clean. Good luck!!! Sigfrido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 January 2007 13:11, jcd wrote: Hi. I'm in bad situation. I have two physical disks. First (DiskA) have 200GB and second (DiskB) have 160GB capacity. On DiskB I have Linux partitions and some data partitions. On DiskA I had had 40GB NTFS (Windows) and 160GB NTFS partitions (data), but I already deleted Windows partition. So, I copied data from 160GB partition on DiskA to temporary space on DiskB, then I deleted remaining NTFS partition on DiskA and created one 200GB ext3 partition (I think so. In cfdsik I chose partition type '83 Linux') and then formatted it 'mke2fs -j /dev/sdb1'. Then I copied (moved :( ) all the data back to DiskA and everuthing was fine. It was yesterday. Today I started PC and at startup init said "Some local filesystems failed to mount". OK, in /etc/fstab I have "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha ext3 noatime 0 2" ... it seems to be good. I also tried to change ext2, but with both 'mount -a' says: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so. In /var/log/messages I found just "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb1" :((. When I try just 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha', at /mnt/zaloha I have mounted that old Windows partition that I already deleted. Do you know any solution how can I get back my ext3 partition to get back my data please? And what could be cause of this problem or when I can find what is the cause? Thanks very very much. You've given lots of words, but very very little information, not even the commands you used to perform these actions. Without this info it becomes very hard to help you out. Meantime, please provide the output of the following commands: fdisk -l fsck /dev/sdb1 mount /dev/sdb1 /some/mount/point and we'll take it from there alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC Failing
On Mon, January 22, 2007 8:49 pm, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 19:33 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote: >> (presumably good -- only let >> memtest run for about 3 minutes) > > You should probably test it much longer than 3 minutes before you can be > confident that the 256 MB chip doesn't have issues... > Indeed, 1 hour is the bare minimum for a memtest, and ideally you should let it run for about 7-8 hours (during one night for exemple)... -- Pierre-Yves Rofes -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 partition dissapeared :(
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 13:11, jcd wrote: > Hi. > I'm in bad situation. I have two physical disks. First (DiskA) have > 200GB and second (DiskB) have 160GB capacity. On DiskB I have Linux > partitions and some data partitions. On DiskA I had had 40GB NTFS > (Windows) and 160GB NTFS partitions (data), but I already deleted > Windows partition. So, I copied data from 160GB partition on DiskA to > temporary space on DiskB, then I deleted remaining NTFS partition on > DiskA and created one 200GB ext3 partition (I think so. In cfdsik I > chose partition type '83 Linux') and then formatted it 'mke2fs > -j /dev/sdb1'. Then I copied (moved :( ) all the data back to DiskA > and everuthing was fine. It was yesterday. Today I started PC and at > startup init said "Some local filesystems failed to mount". OK, in > /etc/fstab I have "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha ext3 noatime 0 2" ... it > seems to be good. I also tried to change ext2, but with both 'mount > -a' says: > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, >missing codepage or other error >In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try >dmesg | tail or so. > In /var/log/messages I found just "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on > dev sdb1" :((. When I try just 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha', > at /mnt/zaloha I have mounted that old Windows partition that I > already deleted. Do you know any solution how can I get back my ext3 > partition to get back my data please? And what could be cause of this > problem or when I can find what is the cause? Thanks very very much. You've given lots of words, but very very little information, not even the commands you used to perform these actions. Without this info it becomes very hard to help you out. Meantime, please provide the output of the following commands: fdisk -l fsck /dev/sdb1 mount /dev/sdb1 /some/mount/point and we'll take it from there alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
Iain Buchanan napisał(a): > On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 21:47 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: > > try these exact searches in google (include the site.. bit) > > INPUT_DEVICES VIDEO_CARDS site:http://www.gentoo.org > and > INPUT_DEVICES VIDEO_CARDS site:http://www.gentoo-wiki.org I visited gentoo.org and skimmed the documentation. What I've read doesn't make me cheerful at all. Quoting from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml : GPU Common Name Support R300,R400,R500 Radeon 9500 - x800 xorg 2D, ATI DRI If I understand it correctly, this means that if I want a 3D acceleration I've got to use closed ATI's fglrx, and if I'd like to have an open driver from Xorg I am forced to accept 2D only. So no fglrx is no 3D at all. Please tell me that I'm mistaken. Regards, Jan -- Mailjan at stepien com pl Jabber jano at jabber aster pl GG 1894343 Web http://stepien.com.pl signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Web hosting
On 23 January 2007 09:30, Nikolay Balov wrote: > Hi all > I'm trying to make a web server who will serve may be 3-4 domains. I > need to make a ftp account for every domain, which root is the root of > the apache domain (/var/www/domain1/htdocs must be root for apache and > for the ftp server) so the users can upload files to there web site. Can > you help me how to do that? 10x a lot BTW I'm using Apache2 and proftpd > but it's no mandatory to use proftpd, any resolution of my problem will > be good :) First of all, forget about FTP, use SSH/SFTP instead. Set up a virtual named host for each web site. Set up a user for each web site with their respective DocumentRoots as their home directories. Voila! Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 Proof of concept of a TSP solver for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/epat-0.1.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] compiled kdebase never hit xorg dependancy
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 05:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is it normal to have been able to compile kdebase and all deps and > never hit an xorg dependancy? Yes. KDE and all it's apps are X-clients and so do not depend on an X server - the server can quite easily be on another machine. They will depend on the X client libs though, as well as freetype, fontconfig, opengl and the various X extensions like libXrender, libXfixes etc alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Program for Sound Recording of Church Services
Timothy A. Holmes ha scritto: > Hi folks: > > Ive been using gentoo + fluxbox + audacity for about a year now > recording our church services to wav or mp3 files. Its now upgrade > time > > The system is a p3 400 running gentoo and fluxbox - im open to > suggestions on the proper software to use Why having to change your software stack if the one you used works? Just install it on the new machine (if it's really needed to change the machine). Or are you having problems with the current software stack? I also suspect you don't even need audacity, you could do everything from the command line (don't ask me exactly how, but I'm quite sure)... Audacity is working adequetly, I was mostly wondering if there was a better tool out there that I didn't know about. The computer is being rebuilt due to it being VERY far back in the update / upgrade curve -- it still had monolitic x and, the wrong chost and the old gcc / profile -- its gonna be faster to rebuild than upgrade, and as long as im doing it, im going to lvm as well Thanks Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] init script from user
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 10:56, Ilya Hegai wrote: > Is it possible to run init script during boot from normal user, but not > root? There is a chapter about Gentoo initscripts in the handbook including a section about writing your own. start-stop-daemon has support for running a daemon as another user through the --user or --chuid switches. If it isn't a daemon you can also just use `su $user -c $command`. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=4 -- Bo Andresen pgpnd24agDuHV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] init script from user
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:46:50 +0300, Ilya Hegai wrote: > One more question. Does conf.d/local.start start before net services? It starts last. -- Neil Bothwick The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] compiled kdebase never hit xorg dependancy
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:15:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is it normal to have been able to compile kdebase and all deps and > never hit an xorg dependancy? You don't need xorg-server to install KDE, although you may need some libraries, because you could be running the apps over a network. -- Neil Bothwick Gravity isn't easy, but it's the law. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:12:07 -0800 (PST), Eric Bohn wrote: > Using Portage you're putting yourself at the mercy of any Joe Schmoe > with a proxy connection to a Gentoo server that wants to compromise > your machine. How so? They'd have to get a compromised source tarball on the distfiles mirrors and a hacked ebuild into the CVS tree. Getting a hacked ebuild on the servers isn't enough, it would be replaced in no more than fifteen minutes. Why is this easier than getting a compromised RPM onto a Red Hat or SUSE server? -- Neil Bothwick I heard someone tried the monkeys-on-typewriters bit trying for the plays of W. Shakespeare but all they got was the collected works of Francis Bacon signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] init script from user
2007/1/23, Thomas Buntrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: With a little trick... im my conf.d/local.start sudo -u bunti -H fetchmail Thanks. One more question. Does conf.d/local.start start before net services? -- regards, Hegai Ilya -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to install gentoo on an OLD K6 box w/ tight memory & small disks?
> I have an old P2 233Mhz laptop that runs Gentoo. I build the system on a > modern, very fast machine (specifying the right architecture) and then zipped > up the partition up into a tarball. Then boot up the old machine with a Live > CD and ftp over the tarball, unpack it, tweak /etc/fstab, install Grub and > away you go! Cool, exactly the same way I do it :-)) http://www.kernelpanic.ch/html/gentoo_superconcentrate.html (tarball is just a compressed full install) but I'm also have a concentrated short install doc http://www.kernelpanic.ch/html/gentoo_concentrate.html Maybe someone likes it. Oli -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
Dale wrote: As someone who started out using Mandrake, I have to say that using Gentoo has been a LOT easier. Yea, I had to learn how to use Gentoo and it is different from Mandrake by far but it is a whole lot easier to manage. I have been using Gentoo for about 2 or 3 years for my desktop and I would not consider switching to any other distro. I spend a lot less time messing with my Gentoo install that I did Mandrake. The upgrade process with Mandrake was . . . . a disaster. From what I understand Redhat and Mandrake are pretty close. I certainly wouldn't switch to Redhat then. As for security, I have had several times that my internet connection was messed up and the md5 sums didn't match. Portage didn't hesitate to delete those puppies and let me know that something was changed. It would seem to me that it would be difficult for someone to change the source code on one server then change the other files on the rsync server so they both match up. Well, that my $0.02 worth. Some of what is being said just doesn't make sense to me at all. Gentoo is a lot better than some distros. It certainly beats windoze. Gotta second that - I have used Mandrake and Redhat, and Gentoo is such a better way - *once* you spend the time to understand why it is like it is! As for comments about portage sync etc producing destroyed|mangled|buggy systems - well *any* update system can do that from time to time (ask windows update users after xp sp2 came out...) A sane test-before-deploy plan is essential for any large scale environment - ISTM that this is just as straightforard in Gentoo as any other Linux distro So, I see no reason why ya can't use Gentoo in a corporate environment! Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ext3 partition dissapeared :(
Hi. I'm in bad situation. I have two physical disks. First (DiskA) have 200GB and second (DiskB) have 160GB capacity. On DiskB I have Linux partitions and some data partitions. On DiskA I had had 40GB NTFS (Windows) and 160GB NTFS partitions (data), but I already deleted Windows partition. So, I copied data from 160GB partition on DiskA to temporary space on DiskB, then I deleted remaining NTFS partition on DiskA and created one 200GB ext3 partition (I think so. In cfdsik I chose partition type '83 Linux') and then formatted it 'mke2fs -j /dev/sdb1'. Then I copied (moved :( ) all the data back to DiskA and everuthing was fine. It was yesterday. Today I started PC and at startup init said "Some local filesystems failed to mount". OK, in /etc/fstab I have "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha ext3 noatime 0 2" ... it seems to be good. I also tried to change ext2, but with both 'mount -a' says: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so. In /var/log/messages I found just "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb1" :((. When I try just 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/zaloha', at /mnt/zaloha I have mounted that old Windows partition that I already deleted. Do you know any solution how can I get back my ext3 partition to get back my data please? And what could be cause of this problem or when I can find what is the cause? Thanks very very much. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to install gentoo on an OLD K6 box w/ tight memory & small disks?
Robin Atwood wrote: > On Tuesday 23 January 2007 15:21, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: > >> Hi, >> I have a rather old computer (tyan motherboard, K6 processor) which >> currently runs debian. I want to convert it to a gentoo box. As the >> system is rather old and it's disks are very small by today's >> standards, too, I would like to hear about your experiences with such >> tight situations. >> > > I have an old P2 233Mhz laptop that runs Gentoo. I build the system on a > modern, very fast machine (specifying the right architecture) and then zipped > up the partition up into a tarball. Then boot up the old machine with a Live > CD and ftp over the tarball, unpack it, tweak /etc/fstab, install Grub and > away you go! > > HTH > -Robin. > You have a LAN setup, you can use distcc once you get to a point that you can boot up the new install and install distcc. I'm not sure if the Gentoo CD has it installed or not. May want to look into that. Hope that gives you one more option to think about. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967
Re: [gentoo-user] What's the best way to install gentoo on an OLD K6 box w/ tight memory & small disks?
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 15:21, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: > Hi, > I have a rather old computer (tyan motherboard, K6 processor) which > currently runs debian. I want to convert it to a gentoo box. As the > system is rather old and it's disks are very small by today's > standards, too, I would like to hear about your experiences with such > tight situations. I have an old P2 233Mhz laptop that runs Gentoo. I build the system on a modern, very fast machine (specifying the right architecture) and then zipped up the partition up into a tarball. Then boot up the old machine with a Live CD and ftp over the tarball, unpack it, tweak /etc/fstab, install Grub and away you go! HTH -Robin. -- -- Robin Atwood -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
On Tuesday 23 January 2007 11:19, Dale wrote: > Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > As someone who started out using Mandrake, I have to say that using > Gentoo has been a LOT easier. Yea, I had to learn how to use Gentoo and > it is different from Mandrake by far but it is a whole lot easier to > manage. I have been using Gentoo for about 2 or 3 years for my desktop > and I would not consider switching to any other distro. I spend a lot > less time messing with my Gentoo install that I did Mandrake. The > upgrade process with Mandrake was . . . . a disaster. From what I > understand Redhat and Mandrake are pretty close. I certainly wouldn't > switch to Redhat then. > > As for security, I have had several times that my internet connection > was messed up and the md5 sums didn't match. Portage didn't hesitate to > delete those puppies and let me know that something was changed. It > would seem to me that it would be difficult for someone to change the > source code on one server then change the other files on the rsync > server so they both match up. > > Well, that my $0.02 worth. Some of what is being said just doesn't make > sense to me at all. Gentoo is a lot better than some distros. It > certainly beats windoze. > > Dale I can add to this, my first distro was Mandrake too. It was pain to build something from source, gather all the dependencies just because they dont provide such binaries. Gentoo has huge collection of software to choose from and all overlys ... Martins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] init script from user
Ilya Hegai wrote: > Hello, list. > Is it possible to run init script during boot from normal user, but not > root? With a little trick... im my conf.d/local.start sudo -u bunti -H fetchmail Thomas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] init script from user
Hello, list. Is it possible to run init script during boot from normal user, but not root? Thank you. -- regards, Hegai Ilya -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
Daniel da Veiga wrote: > On 1/22/07, Eric Bohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In the US, I'm almost certain you wouldn't be able to get away with >> running Gentoo, and more specifically, Portage, the way you >> apparently do in a secure govt environment. There's probably a >> federal directive or regulation somewhere that prevents machines >> being run in govt organizations from using non-standard or officially >> unapproved technology and/or procedures, and for good reason... >> > > I know of many universities, not only from Brazil, but around the > world, that use Gentoo. There are many security features in portage, > and I believe Gentoo servers and mirrors have some security also, else > it would be too easy to compromise thousands of installations around > the world, and no cracker would miss this opportunity. > > Non-standard and officially unapproved technology sounds more like > "put someone in control of all tech used in the public sector of IT", > more like antitrust than standardizing. > >> I've had Portage hose my Gentoo install twice before to the point >> that I could no longer run Portage, and I run stable, not testing. >> Using Portage you're putting yourself at the mercy of any Joe Schmoe >> with a proxy connection to a Gentoo server that wants to compromise >> your machine. Even most commercial organizations, for job critical >> computing, have administrators that establish mirror servers for >> software testing prior to internal distribution. >> > > As I mentioned before, I don't think we are at the mercy of any > cracker around by using Gentoo. Of course some level of security would > be needed, any OS requires that, but lets not hijack this thread, as > the OP was talking about DESKTOP installations. > >> It didn't sound like the OP was intending for anyone to do sys admin >> tasks with Gentoo either, I imagine that could prove to be risky >> using any Linux distro. >> > > Yeah, that's one more reason for a Gentoo install. And just for the > record, ANY OS needs sys admin tasks once in a while, if not for > initial install, because of breakage, and believe me, I had my quota > of breakage before using Gentoo. > As someone who started out using Mandrake, I have to say that using Gentoo has been a LOT easier. Yea, I had to learn how to use Gentoo and it is different from Mandrake by far but it is a whole lot easier to manage. I have been using Gentoo for about 2 or 3 years for my desktop and I would not consider switching to any other distro. I spend a lot less time messing with my Gentoo install that I did Mandrake. The upgrade process with Mandrake was . . . . a disaster. From what I understand Redhat and Mandrake are pretty close. I certainly wouldn't switch to Redhat then. As for security, I have had several times that my internet connection was messed up and the md5 sums didn't match. Portage didn't hesitate to delete those puppies and let me know that something was changed. It would seem to me that it would be difficult for someone to change the source code on one server then change the other files on the rsync server so they both match up. Well, that my $0.02 worth. Some of what is being said just doesn't make sense to me at all. Gentoo is a lot better than some distros. It certainly beats windoze. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a program to log the memory consumption of just one selected process...
Hi, # watch ps -C v or # watch ps -p v v stands for virtual memory. Otherwise # watch /proc//statm This can help you on how to interpret the result: http://redhat.activeventure.com/9/referenceguide/s1-proc-directories.html (find statm) If you want it graphically, I don't know... maybe ksysmon under kde or gtop... I found this: http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Process-Monitor-HOWTO-8.html 2007/1/23, Wolfgang Liebich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, I want to trace the memory consumption of one selected process (threads and maybe child processes included). In WindowsNT and higher the Performance Monitor can do that. Is there a linux tool out there which can perform that feat, or do I have to hack a script which periodically looks into /proc and gathers all stats by itself? Ciao, Wolfgang -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Alexis Lahouze - Capgemini Bordeaux Développeur NTIC +33 (0)6 85 81 05 71 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] What's the best way to install gentoo on an OLD K6 box w/ tight memory & small disks?
Hi, I have a rather old computer (tyan motherboard, K6 processor) which currently runs debian. I want to convert it to a gentoo box. As the system is rather old and it's disks are very small by today's standards, too, I would like to hear about your experiences with such tight situations. Some questions: 1) What's the best install route? The system is connected to the internet via ADSL & a speedtouch USB modem (works pretty good). Has the live cd the necessary kernel modules + the modem_run utility? There is no spare partition available, btw... 2) Is it a good idea to use dietlibc or ulibc instead of glibc? The PC will be a standalone machine, so neither NIS nor LDAP are a concern - classis shadow password authentication is enough. Concerning languages - I want to type in & read german texts, too - so displaying utf8 or iso-latin-0/1 texts is a must. BUT I do not care much for german man pages or error messages - they are nice, but conserving disk space & memory is more important. 3) I have a more modern machine available for pre building a custom install CD - here disk space is not so big a concern. Any comments would be appreciated... - Wolfgang -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
