Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?
* Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk) [07.02.09 22:42]: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:43:04 +0100, Sebastian Günther wrote: If i have to do *multiple* installs for several copumters, which I do not use myself, I choose debian, because fai rocks. Shouldn't this fai be adopted for Gentoo? I should investigate if this is possible... Did you look at quickstart, mentioned earlier in this discussion? Nope, unless fai-quickstart was meant... Any links? Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx s...@sti@N GÜNTHER mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de pgpu9WIEuafuf.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Update mime database - won't!
Hi All, I tried following the elog suggestion after emerging x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.51, but I get this message back: # update-mime-database /usr/local/share/mime/ update-mime-database: I don't have write permission on /usr/local/share/mime. Try rerunning me as root. Looking for it reveals that it's not there: # ls -la /usr/local/share/mime/ ls: cannot access /usr/local/share/mime/: No such file or directory Is there anything else that I need to do first before trying to update it? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Update mime database - won't!
Mick wrote: Hi All, I tried following the elog suggestion after emerging x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.51, but I get this message back: # update-mime-database /usr/local/share/mime/ update-mime-database: I don't have write permission on /usr/local/share/mime. Try rerunning me as root. Looking for it reveals that it's not there: # ls -la /usr/local/share/mime/ ls: cannot access /usr/local/share/mime/: No such file or directory Is there anything else that I need to do first before trying to update it? Just do update-mime-database /usr/share/mime/ I don't know who has it in /usr/local? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard disk power save
ok thank you for your response...will do as suggested... Danis 2009/2/8 Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk He wrote the lines of his post upside down, because he thinks you're wrong to top-post. If you read it as: Usually, you have to umount it before you put it too sleep. There's almost always something waking it up if it's still mounted. It makes perfect sense you don't need to ask any further questions. Stroller. On 7 Feb 2009, at 19:19, Danis Petkakis wrote: you're telling me i have to umount it first and then put it to sleep? because it is mounted it cannot be put to sleep? 2009/2/7 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de still mounted. waking it up if it's almost always something put it too sleep. There's umount it before you Usually, you have to
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE-4.2 missing Oxygen
Naga wrote: On Thursday 05 February 2009 20:32:53 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Naga wrote: I've reinstalled KDE-4.2 from portage at least 3 times, and in between compiling it from svn. The svn copy always works ok, the portage one is always missing Oxygen. Do you have kde-base/kdebase-desktoptheme installed? That's Oxygen. Yes, that only pulls in some files under .../default/... (instead of .../oxygen/...) no mention about Oxygen. That is correct. The default *is* Oxygen and it's installed in share/apps/desktoptheme/default. The package itself says (try eix kdebase-dektoptheme): Description: oxygen desktoptheme from kdebase It's the default style in KDE 4 without you having to enable it. So I guess if it still doesn't work and doesn't get listed in System Settings-Appearance-Style, something is messed up. I would go over the packages one by one and see if I have some left-overs from some overlay.
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} xfce4 network management?
On Sunday 08 February 2009, Grant wrote: Why choose wicd over NetworkManager? Hi guys I'm back with a differend mail address, hope someone missed me :-) I tested both, but NM keeps shutting down wired NIC randomly, sometimes is eth0, other times is eth1. eth0 and ath0 are connected to the same access point, so it is sane to inhibite eth0, but I have hundred services relying on eth1 (fixed IP, internal network), half my system go upside down when eth1 lose its address. I don't want NM to touch this interface, even it is unplugged. Is it there a way to fix this? With wicd is trivial to pair eth0 and ath0, but it runs wireless for a few minutes, then it switches back to wired. So I'm going to try wpa_gui... Cheers Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.28-gentoo, Compiled #2 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 26 08:55:48 CET 2008 Two 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processors, 4GB RAM, 4018.04 Bogomips Total aemaeth
[gentoo-user] Re: media-video/gspcav1 or kernel module?
On Sunday 08 February 2009, Iain Buchanan wrote: [...] I recently upgraded from 2.6.26 to 2.6.28. My el-cheapo webcam (lsusb: 0c45:602c Microdia Clas Ohlson TWC-30XOP WebCam) used the media-video/gspcav1 driver, but that no longer compiles: /var/tmp/portage/media-video/gspcav1-20071224/work/gspcav1-20071224/g spca_core.c:54:27: error: asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory /var/tmp/portage/media-video/gspcav1-20071224/work/gspcav1-20071224/g spca_core.c: In function 'spca5xx_ioctl': /var/tmp/portage/media-video/gspcav1-20071224/work/gspcav1-20071224/g spca_core.c:2463: error: implicit declaration of function 'video_usercopy' etc. I discovered a number of gspca modules in the kernel: gspca_spca508 gspca_spca506 gspca_spca505 gspca_spca500 gspca_spca501 gspca_spca561 [...] If you boot 2.6.26 it should be easier to spot the right module. Anyway I encountered the same problem with my gspca561, IIRC there's a problem with 2.6.28 kernel. Waiting for a kernel upgrade I lent my webcam to a vista user... HTH. Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.28-gentoo, Compiled #2 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 26 08:55:48 CET 2008 Two 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processors, 4GB RAM, 4018.04 Bogomips Total aemaeth
Re: [gentoo-user] media-video/gspcav1 or kernel module?
Hi, On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au wrote: I recently upgraded from 2.6.26 to 2.6.28. My el-cheapo webcam (lsusb: 0c45:602c Microdia Clas Ohlson TWC-30XOP WebCam) used the media-video/gspcav1 driver, but that no longer compiles: Maybe this page will point you to the right driver: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/VIDEO_DEV.html HTH, Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What version of nvidia-drivers to use with FX5200?
On 08/02/09 Grant Edwards said: I know. 173.15 and newer don't support FX5200 cards. I tried several different 173.14.xx versions and none of them work for me (I don't remmeber if .09 was one of them). I always got an illegal instruction traps when Xorg is starting. Other people reported that same problem to nvidia, but AFAICT, there was never any fix. I went back to 100.19 and a 2.6.24 kernel and it seems to work fine. It's a bit dissappointing that my card isn't suported by recent drivers/kernels when it's only about 1-1/2 years old. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 80cf Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16 Memory at e800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] [virtual] Expansion ROM at e900 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0 Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia msoul...@anton:~$ equery list | grep nvidia media-video/nvidia-settings-169.07 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.15 msoul...@anton:~$ uname -a Linux anton 2.6.25-gentoo-r8 #9 Sun Nov 23 19:14:08 EST 2008 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux This works for me. I'm masking out newer nvidia-drivers now and kernels, since I'm told that version of nvidia-drivers won't build against a newer kernel. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgpTNT7R7pj8Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} xfce4 network management?
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:46:18 -0800, Grant wrote: The only thing I wish it would handle, that the latest NetworkManager does, is 3G modem connections. Why choose wicd over NetworkManager? It was far easier to set up so that my wireless connection was available before the desktop loaded. It also handles reconnections in a more straightforward manner. That saves a lot more time than I lose by having to type sudo pon occasionally. -- Neil Bothwick I'm not closed minded, you're just wrong. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Change colours of xterm
Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:57:18 + Ian Lee i...@leehouse.eclipse.co.uk wrote: but still no white on black xterm, what am I missing?? You can try putting XTerm*background: #001800 XTerm*foreground: #A8A8A8 to ~/.Xresources WFM Thanks that worked. I got finally got a system config rather than user config working (not that i needed a system config) /etc/X11/Xresources: add *customization: -color /etc/env.d/10xpaths: change XFILESEARCHPATH=/etc/X11/%T/%N:/usr/share/X11/%T/%N to XFILESEARCHPATH=/etc/X11/%T/%N%C:/usr/share/X11/%T/%N%C /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color now works.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:57:39 +0100 (CET), Jesús Guerrero wrote: Yes. That's true and I agree. But since emacs was proposed as a way to overcome the natural limitations of info, I guess that's completely fair if others point out also the disadvantages of doing so. All in all, we could also say how nice is man in konqueror, but that wouldn't be fair, would it? Everyone's more or less agreeing here, that the info format is useful but the standard info reader sucks. Once you start reading info pages in a decent reader, like Konqueror, they are useful for more complex documents. Although I'd still prefer HTML, mainly because of the wide choice of readers available. -- Neil Bothwick Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard disk power save
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:51:00 +0200, Danis Petkakis wrote: ok thank you for your response...will do as suggested... The suggestion was not to top-post... -- Neil Bothwick Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. -- Robert Heinlein signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: Everyone's more or less agreeing here, that the info format is useful but the standard info reader sucks. Once you start reading info pages in a decent reader, like Konqueror, they are useful for more complex documents. Although I'd still prefer HTML, mainly because of the wide choice of readers available. Yet much (I would even suggest most) HTML documentation does not take much advantage of the HTML format. It is rare for it to contain many hyperlinks within the text. Often it is formatted more like a book with each page just having previous, next, up and contents links at top and/or bottom with few, if any, hyperlinks in the text.
Re: [gentoo-user] Update mime database - won't!
On Sunday 08 February 2009, Justin wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, I tried following the elog suggestion after emerging x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.51, but I get this message back: # update-mime-database /usr/local/share/mime/ update-mime-database: I don't have write permission on /usr/local/share/mime. Try rerunning me as root. Looking for it reveals that it's not there: # ls -la /usr/local/share/mime/ ls: cannot access /usr/local/share/mime/: No such file or directory Is there anything else that I need to do first before trying to update it? Just do update-mime-database /usr/share/mime/ I don't know who has it in /usr/local? Thanks, should I file a bug? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?
On 2009-02-08, Graham Murray gra...@gmurray.org.uk wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: Everyone's more or less agreeing here, that the info format is useful but the standard info reader sucks. Once you start reading info pages in a decent reader, like Konqueror, they are useful for more complex documents. Although I'd still prefer HTML, mainly because of the wide choice of readers available. Yet much (I would even suggest most) HTML documentation does not take much advantage of the HTML format. It is rare for it to contain many hyperlinks within the text. Often it is formatted more like a book with each page just having previous, next, up and contents links at top and/or bottom with few, if any, hyperlinks in the text. And that format completely sucks for much the same reason that info sucks. I hate it when a large HTML document is broken up into chunks 1-2 paragraphs long with prev/next buttons. Such documents are impossible to search either by eye or using a browser's search feature. Unfortunately, when HTML is generated from info or docbook formats, the default seems to be to generated a completely factured, disconnected heap if small HTML pages. The Python documentation is like that. The Gentoo docs are a pretty decent example of how to do HTML documentation right. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Update mime database - won't!
Mick wrote: On Sunday 08 February 2009, Justin wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, I tried following the elog suggestion after emerging x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.51, but I get this message back: # update-mime-database /usr/local/share/mime/ update-mime-database: I don't have write permission on /usr/local/share/mime. Try rerunning me as root. Looking for it reveals that it's not there: # ls -la /usr/local/share/mime/ ls: cannot access /usr/local/share/mime/: No such file or directory Is there anything else that I need to do first before trying to update it? Just do update-mime-database /usr/share/mime/ I don't know who has it in /usr/local? Thanks, should I file a bug? Do that. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: What version of nvidia-drivers to use with FX5200?
On 2009-02-08, Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] [...] msoul...@anton:~$ equery list | grep nvidia media-video/nvidia-settings-169.07 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.15 msoul...@anton:~$ uname -a Linux anton 2.6.25-gentoo-r8 #9 Sun Nov 23 19:14:08 EST 2008 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux This works for me. I'm masking out newer nvidia-drivers now and kernels, since I'm told that version of nvidia-drivers won't build against a newer kernel. I never got any of the 173.14 series to work -- I alwasy got an illegal instruction trap as Xorg was starting up. My box is a Celeron Mendocino, and I suspect that the binary blob in 173.14.xx drivers is incompatile with older processors. So it's not my card that's not supported by 173.14.xx, but my CPU. There's also a chance that it's not the CPU which is unsupported by 173.14.xx but rather the PCI bus interface, but because the fault is illegal instruction, I'm guessing the CPU is no longer supported by the driver. The 100.19.xx series seems to work, but I had to go back to 2.6.24 to get it to build. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:54:48 +0100, Sebastian Günther wrote: Did you look at quickstart, mentioned earlier in this discussion? Nope, unless fai-quickstart was meant... Any links? Yes, posted twice already but not to hand now. -- Neil Bothwick Math and alcohol don't mix. Don't drink and derive. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] share control rights to a daemon by both root and another user
Me as root user of a server wish to share the control privilege (to start and stop) a daemon with another non-root user and find it difficult. The requirement: 1) either me or him can start the daemon then stop it; 2) he can stop the daemon started by me; 3) I can stop the daemon started by him. 3) is very easy because I am root; 1) is also easy, difficult part is 2). I first thought of setting the process suid and make him owner of the executable. However I found if I do so, the process starts with his privilege while belonging to me, he could not signal the processes of mine. Is the requirement 2 possible with Linux? How? If the problem can be solved giving the setting two users both are not root, the solution would be even more preferable. Thanks in advance! -- Real Softservice Huateng Tower, Unit 1788 Jia 302 3rd area of Jinsong, Chao Yang Tel: +86 (10) 8773 0650 ext 603 Mobile: 159 7382 http://www.realss.com
Re: [gentoo-user] SecurDisc Software ?
2009/2/7 meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, is there any open sourced software, with which I can use the SecurDisc funtionality of my LG HL-DST DVD-RAM GH22NP20 DVD burner ? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Have a nice weekend! :) mcc This is some Nero-specific feature that was developed by LG and Nero together AFAIK. So I guess it's rather not possible for a free software to support it. If you absolutely need it you should try Nero for Linux. It advertises that it supports the same features as the windows version so this should be included, but of course, it's not open source. -- Currently developing a browsergame... http://www.p-game.de Trade - Expand - Fight Follow me at twitter! http://twitter.com/moortier
Re: [gentoo-user] share control rights to a daemon by both root and another user
Am Sonntag, den 08.02.2009, 23:59 +0800 schrieb zhangwe...@realss.com: Me as root user of a server wish to share the control privilege (to start and stop) a daemon with another non-root user and find it difficult. The requirement: 1) either me or him can start the daemon then stop it; 2) he can stop the daemon started by me; 3) I can stop the daemon started by him. 3) is very easy because I am root; 1) is also easy, difficult part is 2). I first thought of setting the process suid and make him owner of the executable. However I found if I do so, the process starts with his privilege while belonging to me, he could not signal the processes of mine. Is the requirement 2 possible with Linux? How? If the problem can be solved giving the setting two users both are not root, the solution would be even more preferable. Thanks in advance! Hello :) You can use app-admin/sudo to achieve your goal. It can be configured to allow certain users to execute certain commands as other users (possibly root). You can even restrict the allowed arguments to a command. Bye, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
[gentoo-user] [OT] Sendmail and Comcast
Hi All, If any of you guys has a working sendmail configuration with Comcast I would be grateful if you could share off list. Although I have followed the instructions detailed here (except for the masquerade options) I cannot get it to work: http://www.linuxha.com/other/sendmail/ After a long day trying to get it to run I have now grown blind to it. The error I get is: - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp.comcast.net: MAIL From:nag...@my_domain.com SIZE=578 550 5.1.0 Authentication required 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Sendmail and Comcast
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: Hi All, If any of you guys has a working sendmail configuration with Comcast I would be grateful if you could share off list. Although I have followed the instructions detailed here (except for the masquerade options) I cannot get it to work: http://www.linuxha.com/other/sendmail/ After a long day trying to get it to run I have now grown blind to it. The error I get is: I'm including this on the list since I think there will be others who may find it useful. Mine is setup like this: (I'm going to assume you know to use m4 to compile sendmail.cf) 1) In sendmail.mc ( Some of this may not be necessary... I've placed asterisks around those I think are critical ) (I masquerade as the host that supplies my email pop service (newsguy), I don't use comcast email much. you may be able to ignore masquerading) divert(-1) divert(0) dnl include(`/usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl VERSIONID(`$Id: sendmail.mc,v 1.17 2008/05/19 14:28:16 root Exp $')dnl OSTYPE(linux)dnl define(`confDONT_EXPAND_CNAMES'.`True')dnl *** FEATURE(`authinfo') dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.comcast.net')dnl *** dnl # [HP 05/16/08 17:22 define(`RELAY_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 587') ]dnl dnl Per H Message-ID: g0kmsb$2dd...@hedeland.org comp.mail.sendmail dnl define(`RELAY_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 587') define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl MASQUERADE_AS(`newsguy.com')dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`local.lan')dnl FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl FEATURE(relay_hosts_only) dnl relay exact hosts in /etc/mail/relay-hosts dnl FEATURE(`always_add_domain') dnl GENERICS_DOMAIN(`local.lan')dnl define(`confTRUSTED_USERS',`reader defang apache bacula mysql')dnl MAILER(procmail)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl 2) using authinfo is somewhat explained in the README at /usr/share/sendmail-cf/ Mine looks like this [with some things disguised with MYUSER, MYPASSWD] (Should be all on one line... in case mail formatting breaks the line) cat /etc/mail/authinfo # [HP 02/04/06 23:14 NOTE make sure to makemap hash authinfo authinfo] AuthInfo:smtp.comcast.net U:MYUSER I:myu...@comcast.net P:MYPASSWD M: LOGIN PLAIN # end authinfo Heed the comment about makemap or authinfo won't work. I'm not sure this is necessary anymore but you should probably restart sendmail after using makemap.. and definitely restart anytime you recompile sendmail.cf With those asterisked things in place my mail works fine. I can relay mail from any of my home machines thru my gentoo host with the sendmail.mc shown as well. So the other machines are pointed as my gentoo box as smart host.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard disk power save
On 8 Feb 2009, at 13:39, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:51:00 +0200, Danis Petkakis wrote: ok thank you for your response...will do as suggested... The suggestion was not to top-post... He was replying to one of my messages, and I did not suggest that. I was actually slightly narked at having to futz around with the previous message - which did not make any sense the first time I read it, so no doubt it made no sense at all to a less-capable English speaker - copying pasting 6 times, just so that Nikos could make a clever point. I do not object to top-posting myself, but I find that Danis Petkakis' habit of opposite posting (posting at the top when all previous replies have been at the bottom, or posting at the bottom when all previous replies have been at the top) makes his posts very difficult to read. But we cannot blame him for doing so because nobody has taken the time to *patiently* explain what he's doing wrong, or point him to a URL that does so. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] share control rights to a daemon by both root and another user
Daniel Troeder schrieb: Hello :) You can use app-admin/sudo to achieve your goal. It can be configured to allow certain users to execute certain commands as other users (possibly root). You can even restrict the allowed arguments to a command. Hi. Thanks for that suggestion. I am thinking I need to add a configuration in sudo that everyone in fetch group (who can run the daemon) should be able to sudo and run the daemon. I'll try it later.
[gentoo-user] mit kerberos running on Gentoo Linux
Dear all. I've installed mit version of kerberos V on my Gentoo Linux through the package repository (called portage in Gentoo). krlogin works but krsh strangely quit with a message I don't understand: zhangwe...@esmeralda:~$ krlogin emerson.realss.com Last login: Fri Feb 6 14:09:47 from 123.116.113.65 Linux Pyrrhus 2.6.18.1-fl2f-v1.02 #41 Thu Jul 3 10:13:18 CST 2008 mips64 The programs included with the RAYS GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. RAYS GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. zhangwe...@pyrrhus:~$ exit logout Connection closed. zhangwe...@esmeralda:~$ krsh emerson.realss.com usage: rlogin [ -8EL] [-e char] [ -l username ] host Should I complain to Gentoo packager or MIT or have problem of my own? Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard disk power save
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 01:37:00 +, Stroller wrote: ok thank you for your response...will do as suggested... The suggestion was not to top-post... He was replying to one of my messages, and I did not suggest that. No, although the response was will do as suggested not will do as you suggested. I was actually slightly narked at having to futz around with the previous message - which did not make any sense the first time I read it, so no doubt it made no sense at all to a less-capable English speaker - copying pasting 6 times, just so that Nikos could make a clever point. Yes, a clear explanation of why the list prefers text to appear in chronological order would have been better, and I was somewhat complicit in continuing the obtuse complaints. Danis, please do not top-post. Instead, place your comments so they follow what your are replying to. That way the mail can be read in its natural order, which makes it much easier to understand. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 5: Twelve-ounce pound cake signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Time keeper app for KDE 4.2
Hi all I know that there is an option in GNOME which allows the computer keyboard, mouse and screen to freeze for a certain time for example 3 minutes for each hour. I wonder if there is something similar in KDE? Thanks Hung
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard disk power save
On 9 Feb 2009, at 02:30, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 01:37:00 +, Stroller wrote: ok thank you for your response...will do as suggested... The suggestion was not to top-post... He was replying to one of my messages, and I did not suggest that. No, although the response was will do as suggested not will do as you suggested. I assumed the suggestion he was responding to was to umount drives before putting them to sleep. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Permissions of /etc/sudoers
Hi there, I'm just in the process of setting up my lovely new system :D, in the very first post-install steps. I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Anyway, as root I started to edit /etc/sudoers and vim complained editing a read-only file. Sure enough, /etc/sudoers has permissions 440, so I had to `chmod 640 / etc/sudoers` before editing it changing it back. I am sure I did not have to do this last time I installed a system, although that would have been at least a couple of years ago. Obviously /etc/sudoers is a security-critical file and one wishes to prevent attackers from editing it, but surely if a file belongs to root there's not much point (??) in preventing root from writing to it, because root can always change the permissions and edit the file, just as I have done. I see from some Googling that sudo complains if the permissions on this file are greater than 4xx - can anyone explain why, please? I'm sure there is something I am not understanding, but my naive analysis suggests the only reason for this behaviour is to inconvenience administrators! Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Permissions of /etc/sudoers
Stroller schrieb: Hi there, I'm just in the process of setting up my lovely new system :D, in the very first post-install steps. I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Anyway, as root I started to edit /etc/sudoers and vim complained editing a read-only file. The file /etc/sudoers should always be edited with visudo. visudo uses file locking, provides basic sanity checks and checks for parse errors. Sure enough, /etc/sudoers has permissions 440, so I had to `chmod 640 /etc/sudoers` before editing it changing it back. 440 is ok. I am sure I did not have to do this last time I installed a system, although that would have been at least a couple of years ago. Obviously /etc/sudoers is a security-critical file and one wishes to prevent attackers from editing it, but surely if a file belongs to root there's not much point (??) in preventing root from writing to it, because root can always change the permissions and edit the file, just as I have done. I see from some Googling that sudo complains if the permissions on this file are greater than 4xx - can anyone explain why, please? I'm sure there is something I am not understanding, but my naive analysis suggests the only reason for this behaviour is to inconvenience administrators! Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
Hi there, Is anyone using root=LABEL= grub.conf, please? Anyone also using ext4 for their root? I can find numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/23010-root-label-grub-conf.html http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2005-01/0026.html But it doesn't work for me. :( Here's a working configuration: strol...@hex ~ $ cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # fsmountpoint typeopts dump/pass # NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts. LABEL=boot /boot ext2noauto,noatime 1 2 LABEL=root / ext4noatime 0 1 LABEL=swap noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom autonoauto,ro 0 0 # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink). # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will # use almost no memory if not populated with files) shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 strol...@hex ~ $ sudo mount -v -L boot /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw,noatime) strol...@hex ~ $ cat /boot/grub/grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Gentoo Linux 2.6.28-gentoo-r1 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage-2.6.28-gentoo-r1 root=/dev/sda6 strol...@hex ~ $ If I simply change the kernel line of grub.conf to: kernel /boot/bzImage-2.6.28-gentoo-r1 root=LABEL=root Then I get a kernel panic upon boot: VFS: Cannot open root device LABEL=root or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: ... Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown- block(0,0) Full screenshot of kernel panic: http://stuff.stroller.uk.eu.org/KernelPanic.png Googling this error brings up quite a number of hits, and I reckon I must have spent a couple of hours now trying the most popular resolutions. This is quite a minor error - if I wasn't such an obsessive-compulsive I could easily ignore it, but I am, and it's frustrating the heck out of me. One forum thread / bug report suggests the ata_piix module is to blame, but compiling that statically into my kernel doesn't help. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fc2-vfs-cannot-open-root-device-label-or-unknown-block00-269230/ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=126953 Another post (can't find the reference now) suggests disabling Initial RAM filesystem and RAM disk (initramfs/initrd) support but that doesn't make any difference, either. Finally, this thread http://kerneltrap.org/node/2318 says check your .config and look for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK entries. This is quite an old post, however, and these options aren't available in 2.6.28 (from my distro); I enabled CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI instead, but it has no positive effect. I had better mention that I am using a 3ware 9500 RAID controller on the PCI bus. I suspect the problem is specific to this (and my combination of modules / compiled-in kernel drivers), but I thought I would throw the question out there see if any other ext4 users had also seen the same thing. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
Stroller wrote: Hi there, Is anyone using root=LABEL= grub.conf, please? Anyone also using ext4 for their root? I can find numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/23010-root-label-grub-conf.html http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2005-01/0026.html But it doesn't work for me. :( Here's a working configuration: strol...@hex ~ $ cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # fsmountpointtypeopts dump/pass # NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts. LABEL=boot/bootext2noauto,noatime1 2 LABEL=root/ext4noatime0 1 LABEL=swapnoneswapsw0 0 /dev/cdrom/mnt/cdromautonoauto,ro0 0 # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink). # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will # use almost no memory if not populated with files) shm/dev/shmtmpfsnodev,nosuid,noexec0 0 strol...@hex ~ $ sudo mount -v -L boot /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw,noatime) strol...@hex ~ $ cat /boot/grub/grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Gentoo Linux 2.6.28-gentoo-r1 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage-2.6.28-gentoo-r1 root=/dev/sda6 strol...@hex ~ $ If I simply change the kernel line of grub.conf to: kernel /boot/bzImage-2.6.28-gentoo-r1 root=LABEL=root Then I get a kernel panic upon boot: VFS: Cannot open root device LABEL=root or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: ... Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) Full screenshot of kernel panic: http://stuff.stroller.uk.eu.org/KernelPanic.png Googling this error brings up quite a number of hits, and I reckon I must have spent a couple of hours now trying the most popular resolutions. This is quite a minor error - if I wasn't such an obsessive-compulsive I could easily ignore it, but I am, and it's frustrating the heck out of me. One forum thread / bug report suggests the ata_piix module is to blame, but compiling that statically into my kernel doesn't help. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fc2-vfs-cannot-open-root-device-label-or-unknown-block00-269230/ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=126953 Another post (can't find the reference now) suggests disabling Initial RAM filesystem and RAM disk (initramfs/initrd) support but that doesn't make any difference, either. Finally, this thread http://kerneltrap.org/node/2318 says check your .config and look for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK entries. This is quite an old post, however, and these options aren't available in 2.6.28 (from my distro); I enabled CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI instead, but it has no positive effect. I had better mention that I am using a 3ware 9500 RAID controller on the PCI bus. I suspect the problem is specific to this (and my combination of modules / compiled-in kernel drivers), but I thought I would throw the question out there see if any other ext4 users had also seen the same thing. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Stroller. You may have done this but just in case, you did use the tools to set the label on the drive right? tune2fs does it for ext2 and ext3. I'm not sure about ext4. I only mention this cause this sounds like something I would do. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On 9 Feb 2009, at 07:42, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: ... strol...@hex ~ $ sudo mount -v -L boot /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw,noatime) strol...@hex ~ $ ... You may have done this but just in case, you did use the tools to set the label on the drive right? tune2fs does it for ext2 and ext3. I'm not sure about ext4. Good question! I thought for a moment that the above demonstrated that I had done so, but of course it is necessary to boot from a LiveCD instead: r...@sysresccd /root % mount -v -L root /mnt/gentoo mount: you didn't specify a filesystem type for /dev/sda6 I will try type ext4 /dev/sda6 on /mnt/gentoo type ext4 (rw) r...@sysresccd /root % Stroller.
