[gentoo-user] md5sum mismatch, upgrade from torrent, fsck

2009-05-23 Thread Thufir
I suppose I'll have to re-download the iso if the md5sum doesn't match 
(which it doesn't per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
UbuntuHashes#9.04)?  The problem is that the iso is corrupted?

thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 
thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 
thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-9.04-
alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
   missing codepage or helper program, or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so

thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$  dmesg | tail
[  461.450949] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[  461.451532] EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running 
e2fsck is recommended
[  461.488324] EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
[  461.488342] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[  616.822097] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
[  616.993243] ISOFS: changing to secondary root
[  617.046821] isofs_fill_super: root inode is not a directory. Corrupted 
media?
[  636.444512] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
[  636.446011] ISOFS: changing to secondary root
[  636.447168] isofs_fill_super: root inode is not a directory. Corrupted 
media?
thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 
thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ md5sum ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso 
1dd3245e86b89b38abb01814b05ae299  ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 
thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ sudo e2fsck -yv /dev/sda1
[sudo] password for thufir: 
e2fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
/dev/sda1 is mounted.  

WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
SEVERE filesystem damage.

Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no

check aborted.
thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 


I wasn't quite sure how to run fsck without a live cd...

out of curiosity, when I tried to download via the torrent the speed 
seemed exactly the same as directly downloading the iso but the progress 
was painfully slow versus directly downloading the CD (which I'll do 
again).


thanks,

Thufir




Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Jorge Morais
 Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
 
 I followed this
 
 http://blogs.pwmn.net/korkakak/2008/06/04/gentoo-i-unmerged-python-now-what
 
 which worked - in the end. couple of caveats tho for anyone 'that follows' 
 get python from their site as the ftp link in this article is out of date.
 
 http://www.python.org/download/releases/
 
 also I initially tried 3.01 and that didn't work so i installed 2.6.2 which 
 worked 'out of the box' i then tested with 'emerge' and am now running 
 'emerge -va python' 
 
 Cheers guys!
 
 Thanks to Dale too!

Glad it worked.
But, I don't know what will happen when the properly emerged python
overwrites the manually installed Python.

Does anybody know if the manual python install is slotted, in the sense
that it installs files in /usr/lib/python2.6, /usr/include/python2.6, etc?
If it isn't, and Portage installs a slotted Python, the old files wouldn't
be overwritten.
And even if it is, the differences between the differently-configured and
super-patched new python and the vanilla old python could result in
a different set of file names, so it is possible that the old python
will not be totally overwritten by the portage-emerged python.

If I were you, I would at the very least read the log (specially its tail)
of the python emerge (emerge logs normally go to /var/log/emerge).
And you did log the files installed by the manual python install,
didn't you?

And why did you try python 3.01 first? You should try a similar vesion to
what you were previously running. And specifically python 3.01 is crazy,
as it is widely known that it is *not* compatible with python 2.x software.
And did you properly uninstall python 3.0.1?

Also, I didn't like the instructions in this blog very much.
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to configure python like
portage would?
For example, in my system, where the last python install was
dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2  USE=ncurses readline ssl threads xml -berkdb -build 
-doc -examples -gdbm -ipv6 -sqlite -tk -ucs2 -wininst

the configure line was (from the log)
./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man 
--infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc 
--localstatedir=/var/lib --with-fpectl --enable-shared --disable-ipv6 
--infodir=${prefix}/share/info --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --with-libc= 
--enable-unicode=ucs4 --with-threads --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu

Maybe it would  be nice to install python to  /usr/local (I'm not sure),
but if you are going to install it in /usr (like portage), I think you
might as well use the same configure line portage would.
And if you wanted to be really clean, you could apply the patches that
portage applies.

And most importantly,
*was this necessary*?
Couldn't he have emerged python by invoking
ebuild /usr/port/usr/portage/dev-lang/python/python-2.6.2.ebuild merge
?
This would do everyting correctly.
And wouldn't it work without Python, since it is written in Bash?
AFAIK, what needs Python is the high level interface to the portage
system, while the low-level interface only needs Bash (but I'm
totally not sure).

And finally, couldn't he have gotten a binary package from
http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/dev-lang/
?



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2009-05-23 Thread wangbj








Re: [gentoo-user] firefox 3.0.10 crashes

2009-05-23 Thread dhk

Paul Hartman wrote:

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote:

Ever since I upgraded firefox to version 3 it crashes when certain pages are
opened.  Currently I have version 3.0.10 and amd64.  I've been hoping the
problem would get fixed, but it hasn't been yet.  For example I can not even
go to ebay ( http://www.ebay.com ), the page flashes and then firefox
crashes.  Does anyone know what's causing this and how it can be fixed?


My guess would be flash... try uninstalling flash, java,
nspluginwrapper, disabling add-ons, etc one by one until you find the
cause.




It was the adobe-flash.  I uninstalled it and all was fine.  The emerge 
-pv adobe-flash looks like the following:

[ebuild  N] www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.0.22.87  USE=32bit (multilib).

I installed it again and Firefox crashes on certain sites.  So now it's 
uninstalled again.  At least Firefox is stable now.  Is there a flash 
that works?


Thanks,
dhk



Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Jorge Morais
On Sat, 23 May 2009 04:55:04 -0300
Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Couldn't he have emerged python by invoking
 ebuild /usr/port/usr/portage/dev-lang/python/python-2.6.2.ebuild merge
 ?
 This would do everyting correctly.
 And wouldn't it work without Python, since it is written in Bash?
 AFAIK, what needs Python is the high level interface to the portage
 system, while the low-level interface only needs Bash (but I'm
 totally not sure).
Please forget this stupidity. The ebuild command is written in Python,
not Bash (should have written the email with less haste)
 
 And finally, couldn't he have gotten a binary package from
 http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/dev-lang/
 ?
But this point still stands.



Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Jon Hardcastle

--- On Sat, 23/5/09, Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 8:55 AM
  Thank you! Thank you! Thank
 you!
  
  I followed this
  
  http://blogs.pwmn.net/korkakak/2008/06/04/gentoo-i-unmerged-python-now-what
  
  which worked - in the end. couple of caveats tho for
 anyone 'that follows' get python from their site as the ftp
 link in this article is out of date.
  
  http://www.python.org/download/releases/
  
  also I initially tried 3.01 and that didn't work so i
 installed 2.6.2 which worked 'out of the box' i then tested
 with 'emerge' and am now running 'emerge -va python' 
  
  Cheers guys!
  
  Thanks to Dale too!
 
 Glad it worked.
 But, I don't know what will happen when the properly
 emerged python
 overwrites the manually installed Python.
 
 Does anybody know if the manual python install is
 slotted, in the sense
 that it installs files in /usr/lib/python2.6,
 /usr/include/python2.6, etc?
 If it isn't, and Portage installs a slotted Python, the old
 files wouldn't
 be overwritten.
 And even if it is, the differences between the
 differently-configured and
 super-patched new python and the vanilla old python could
 result in
 a different set of file names, so it is possible that the
 old python
 will not be totally overwritten by the portage-emerged
 python.
 
 If I were you, I would at the very least read the log
 (specially its tail)
 of the python emerge (emerge logs normally go to
 /var/log/emerge).
 And you did log the files installed by the manual python
 install,
 didn't you?
 
 And why did you try python 3.01 first? You should try a
 similar vesion to
 what you were previously running. And specifically python
 3.01 is crazy,
 as it is widely known that it is *not* compatible with
 python 2.x software.
 And did you properly uninstall python 3.0.1?
 
 Also, I didn't like the instructions in this blog very
 much.
 Wouldn't it be more appropriate to configure python like
 portage would?
 For example, in my system, where the last python install
 was
 dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2  USE=ncurses readline ssl
 threads xml -berkdb -build -doc -examples -gdbm -ipv6
 -sqlite -tk -ucs2 -wininst
 
 the configure line was (from the log)
 ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --with-fpectl --enable-shared
 --disable-ipv6 --infodir=${prefix}/share/info
 --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --with-libc=
 --enable-unicode=ucs4 --with-threads
 --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 
 Maybe it would  be nice to install python to 
 /usr/local (I'm not sure),
 but if you are going to install it in /usr (like portage),
 I think you
 might as well use the same configure line portage would.
 And if you wanted to be really clean, you could apply the
 patches that
 portage applies.
 
 And most importantly,
 *was this necessary*?
 Couldn't he have emerged python by invoking
 ebuild
 /usr/port/usr/portage/dev-lang/python/python-2.6.2.ebuild
 merge
 ?
 This would do everyting correctly.
 And wouldn't it work without Python, since it is written in
 Bash?
 AFAIK, what needs Python is the high level interface to the
 portage
 system, while the low-level interface only needs Bash (but
 I'm
 totally not sure).
 
 And finally, couldn't he have gotten a binary package from
 http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/dev-lang/
 ?
 
 

As it happens it didn't work after all. The emerge broke it again and i got an 
error from python.

All of your advise here is fantastic and i urge anyone that follows to do as 
you suggest - but i didn't fully uninstall either python install and i plan to 
just leave them minding their own business (hopefully) as i cant be bothered to 
track all the files down. 

Your final line suggestion to use ebuild worked - although i had to change the 
path. I am running emerge -va python a and it had the same effect as install 
from wget and then emerging it. I get

  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 41
except PermissionDenied, e:
   ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

Any clues here?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Jon Hardcastle

--- On Sat, 23/5/09, Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 8:55 AM
  Thank you! Thank you! Thank
 you!
  
  I followed this
  
  http://blogs.pwmn.net/korkakak/2008/06/04/gentoo-i-unmerged-python-now-what
  
  which worked - in the end. couple of caveats tho for
 anyone 'that follows' get python from their site as the ftp
 link in this article is out of date.
  
  http://www.python.org/download/releases/
  
  also I initially tried 3.01 and that didn't work so i
 installed 2.6.2 which worked 'out of the box' i then tested
 with 'emerge' and am now running 'emerge -va python' 
  
  Cheers guys!
  
  Thanks to Dale too!
 
 Glad it worked.
 But, I don't know what will happen when the properly
 emerged python
 overwrites the manually installed Python.
 
 Does anybody know if the manual python install is
 slotted, in the sense
 that it installs files in /usr/lib/python2.6,
 /usr/include/python2.6, etc?
 If it isn't, and Portage installs a slotted Python, the old
 files wouldn't
 be overwritten.
 And even if it is, the differences between the
 differently-configured and
 super-patched new python and the vanilla old python could
 result in
 a different set of file names, so it is possible that the
 old python
 will not be totally overwritten by the portage-emerged
 python.
 
 If I were you, I would at the very least read the log
 (specially its tail)
 of the python emerge (emerge logs normally go to
 /var/log/emerge).
 And you did log the files installed by the manual python
 install,
 didn't you?
 
 And why did you try python 3.01 first? You should try a
 similar vesion to
 what you were previously running. And specifically python
 3.01 is crazy,
 as it is widely known that it is *not* compatible with
 python 2.x software.
 And did you properly uninstall python 3.0.1?
 
 Also, I didn't like the instructions in this blog very
 much.
 Wouldn't it be more appropriate to configure python like
 portage would?
 For example, in my system, where the last python install
 was
 dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2  USE=ncurses readline ssl
 threads xml -berkdb -build -doc -examples -gdbm -ipv6
 -sqlite -tk -ucs2 -wininst
 
 the configure line was (from the log)
 ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --with-fpectl --enable-shared
 --disable-ipv6 --infodir=${prefix}/share/info
 --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --with-libc=
 --enable-unicode=ucs4 --with-threads
 --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 
 Maybe it would  be nice to install python to 
 /usr/local (I'm not sure),
 but if you are going to install it in /usr (like portage),
 I think you
 might as well use the same configure line portage would.
 And if you wanted to be really clean, you could apply the
 patches that
 portage applies.
 
 And most importantly,
 *was this necessary*?
 Couldn't he have emerged python by invoking
 ebuild
 /usr/port/usr/portage/dev-lang/python/python-2.6.2.ebuild
 merge
 ?
 This would do everyting correctly.
 And wouldn't it work without Python, since it is written in
 Bash?
 AFAIK, what needs Python is the high level interface to the
 portage
 system, while the low-level interface only needs Bash (but
 I'm
 totally not sure).
 
 And finally, couldn't he have gotten a binary package from
 http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/dev-lang/
 ?
 
 

Also that emerge borked ebuild too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Dale
Arttu V. wrote:
 Dale wrote:
  You may want to look into that setting for next time.  I did however
  notice that although python is in the system set, it is not saving a
  copy for some reason.  Anybody know why this setting is not working?
 
  FEATURES=--keep-going buildsyspkg sandbox fixpackages
 
  Is the buildsyspkg option not valid anymore?

 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/profiles/base/packages?r1=1.40r2=1.41


 Python appears to be gone from the base system? Or maybe I'm looking
 at the wrong file? Anyway, 'emerge -pv @system | grep python' would
 seem to agree here.

 Now I don't have a PhD in Gentoo Package Manglement (barely passed the
 kindergarten level so far?), but that commit looks rather unsettling
 for other parts as well. Are the devs switching over to paludis in
 droves? Or why is sys-apps/portage commented out as well? Why is it
 replaced by the hard-coded (old-style?) virtual/portage?


This is what I get with this command:

r...@smoker / # emerge -ep system | grep python
[ebuild   R   ] app-admin/python-updater-0.5
[ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2
r...@smoker / #

So python is there if you do it emptytree.  I still don't have a binary
of this in packages/All tho.  Also, since portage has to have python,
why is it not saving this?  I put that line in make.conf just in case I
do something like the OP did by mistake.  It appears that this isn't
working.

Ideas?  This a bug?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  No PhD here either.



Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Arttu V.
On 5/23/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is what I get with this command:

 r...@smoker / # emerge -ep system | grep python
 [ebuild   R   ] app-admin/python-updater-0.5
 [ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2
 r...@smoker / #

 So python is there if you do it emptytree.

emptytree pulls in *all* dependencies, regardless of whether they are
in the system set or even if they are just regular dependencies
(random packages) from an external overlay. So you're not comparing
apples to apples there with -e, you're getting lot of false positives
from outside the real system set.

It is still a good question why one would have any system set packages
having critical dependencies to non-system set packages, but reasoning
for that has to be asked from the portage devs ...

But backing up a little, try this instead for an amusement (remember
to --pretend or --ask):

~ # emerge -pvC python

 These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 dev-lang/python
selected: 2.5.4-r2
   protected: none
 omitted: none

 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

~ # emerge -pvC binutils

 These are the packages that would be unmerged:


!!! 'sys-devel/binutils' is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.


 sys-devel/binutils
selected: 2.18-r3
   protected: none
 omitted: none

 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

~ #


Note how binutils still is within the system set and gets the extra
warning, while python doesn't get the special system set warning with
the three exclamation marks? I.e., python *is no longer* in the system
set, probably removed by the very change I gave a link for in previous
email.

AFAIK (haven't checked in portage code), buildsyspkg and such only
work with the packages explicitly mentioned in the system set, so
binutils is in, python is (nowadays) out -- and that probably explains
also what is happening on your smoker. :)

Anyone finding flaws in my theories or facts or observations that
outright nullify them? :)

-- 
Arttu V.



Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Dale
Arttu V. wrote:
 On 5/23/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 This is what I get with this command:

 r...@smoker / # emerge -ep system | grep python
 [ebuild   R   ] app-admin/python-updater-0.5
 [ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2
 r...@smoker / #

 So python is there if you do it emptytree.
 

 emptytree pulls in *all* dependencies, regardless of whether they are
 in the system set or even if they are just regular dependencies
 (random packages) from an external overlay. So you're not comparing
 apples to apples there with -e, you're getting lot of false positives
 from outside the real system set.

 It is still a good question why one would have any system set packages
 having critical dependencies to non-system set packages, but reasoning
 for that has to be asked from the portage devs ...

 But backing up a little, try this instead for an amusement (remember
 to --pretend or --ask):

 ~ # emerge -pvC python

   
 These are the packages that would be unmerged:
 

  dev-lang/python
 selected: 2.5.4-r2
protected: none
  omitted: none

   
 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
 

 ~ # emerge -pvC binutils

   
 These are the packages that would be unmerged:
 


 !!! 'sys-devel/binutils' is part of your system profile.
 !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.


  sys-devel/binutils
 selected: 2.18-r3
protected: none
  omitted: none

   
 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
 

 ~ #


 Note how binutils still is within the system set and gets the extra
 warning, while python doesn't get the special system set warning with
 the three exclamation marks? I.e., python *is no longer* in the system
 set, probably removed by the very change I gave a link for in previous
 email.

 AFAIK (haven't checked in portage code), buildsyspkg and such only
 work with the packages explicitly mentioned in the system set, so
 binutils is in, python is (nowadays) out -- and that probably explains
 also what is happening on your smoker. :)

 Anyone finding flaws in my theories or facts or observations that
 outright nullify them? :)

   

Hmmm, I think someone needs to rethink the system set then.  After all,
portage does not work well without python.  It should keep a binary copy
but it should also warn you if you are typing without your thinking cap on.

Anyone else think this is a bug?  Or should be thought out again as to
being included is system set?

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 23 May 2009 13:52:13 Arttu V. wrote:
 Note how binutils still is within the system set and gets the extra
 warning, while python doesn't get the special system set warning with
 the three exclamation marks? I.e., python *is no longer* in the system
 set, probably removed by the very change I gave a link for in previous
 email.

 AFAIK (haven't checked in portage code), buildsyspkg and such only
 work with the packages explicitly mentioned in the system set, so
 binutils is in, python is (nowadays) out -- and that probably explains
 also what is happening on your smoker. :)

 Anyone finding flaws in my theories or facts or observations that
 outright nullify them? :)

No, I think you are right, and I think somebody cocked up badly.

Examining the current profiles shows that portage and python were removed from 
base, and python was included back in releases/2008.0/packages (amongst 
others):

profiles # grep -r 'sys-apps/portage' * | grep packages:
base/packages:#*=sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.22
default-linux/amd64/2007.0/packages:=sys-apps/portage-2.1.2
releases/2008.0/packages:=sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4
selinux/packages:=sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r15
selinux/2007.0/packages:=sys-apps/portage-2.1.2
profiles # grep -r 'dev-lang/python' * | grep packages:
base/packages:#*dev-lang/python

I haven't followed this entire thread, so correct me if I'm wrong, but a 
reasonable explanation might be:

A Gentoo system needs a package manager, but it's doesn't have to be portage. 
Solution: remove the hardcoded portage and python from base, include them 
elsewhere and created new profiles for paludis and pkg-merge users.

Except, python got omitted and there's no paludis (yet)

If so, this is a bug and should be reported


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] md5sum mismatch, upgrade from torrent, fsck

2009-05-23 Thread Eric Martin
Thufir wrote:
 I suppose I'll have to re-download the iso if the md5sum doesn't match 
 (which it doesn't per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
 UbuntuHashes#9.04)?  The problem is that the iso is corrupted?
   
Do the md5sums match?  If they do you downloaded the cd fine.  If not,
redownload
 thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 
 thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 
 thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-9.04-
 alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
missing codepage or helper program, or other error
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
dmesg | tail  or so

 thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$  dmesg | tail
 [  461.450949] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
 [  461.451532] EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running 
 e2fsck is recommended
 [  461.488324] EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
 [  461.488342] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
 [  616.822097] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
 [  616.993243] ISOFS: changing to secondary root
 [  617.046821] isofs_fill_super: root inode is not a directory. Corrupted 
 media?
 [  636.444512] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
 [  636.446011] ISOFS: changing to secondary root
 [  636.447168] isofs_fill_super: root inode is not a directory. Corrupted 
 media?
 thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 
 thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ md5sum ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso 
 1dd3245e86b89b38abb01814b05ae299  ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
   
You need to grab the md5sum file and run md5sum -c (md5sumfile)
 thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 
 thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ sudo e2fsck -yv /dev/sda1
 [sudo] password for thufir: 
 e2fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
 /dev/sda1 is mounted.  
   
What is /dev/sda1?  On most of my machines that's boot, although I won't
assume anything.  Also, I believe you can mount stuff read only via
mount -o ro,remount mountpoint and fsck will be *much* happier.
 WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
 SEVERE filesystem damage.

 Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no

 check aborted.
 thu...@arrakis:~/Desktop$ 


 I wasn't quite sure how to run fsck without a live cd...

 out of curiosity, when I tried to download via the torrent the speed 
 seemed exactly the same as directly downloading the iso but the progress 
 was painfully slow versus directly downloading the CD (which I'll do 
 again).

   
Torrents speeds are based on your peers and isps.  Downloads the
traditional ways are direct connections to one server.  Torrents should
be faster but ISPs throttle you quite frequently. I hope this answered
everything :)
 thanks,

 Thufir

   
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Re: [gentoo-user] security

2009-05-23 Thread Saphirus Sage
Daniel Iliev wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Since I'm not familiar with Gentoo's practice in dealing with
   security problems I got curious about the following case.
   Yesterday a Secunia advisory [1] about pidgin was brought to my
   attention. The solution offered by the up-streams is upgrading to
   version 2.5.6, while the latest version in portage is ~2.5.5-r1.

   As I see it, there are three possibilities:
   1) even older, the version in Gentoo is not affected, because the
   maintainers had taken care of it (too optimistic?)
   2) Gentoo installations are still vulnerable to the bugs described in
   the advisory and nobody knows about it (quite disturbing)
   3) Gentoo maintainers are working on it, but still not ready

   Which one is it?


   [1] [SA35194] http://secunia.com/advisories/35194/


   
It's in portage, sync your tree and check again. I just installed Pidgin
2.5.6 last night.



Re: [gentoo-user] security

2009-05-23 Thread Justin
Daniel Iliev wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Since I'm not familiar with Gentoo's practice in dealing with
   security problems I got curious about the following case.
   Yesterday a Secunia advisory [1] about pidgin was brought to my
   attention. The solution offered by the up-streams is upgrading to
   version 2.5.6, while the latest version in portage is ~2.5.5-r1.
 
   As I see it, there are three possibilities:
   1) even older, the version in Gentoo is not affected, because the
   maintainers had taken care of it (too optimistic?)
   2) Gentoo installations are still vulnerable to the bugs described in
   the advisory and nobody knows about it (quite disturbing)
   3) Gentoo maintainers are working on it, but still not ready
 
   Which one is it?
 
 
   [1] [SA35194] http://secunia.com/advisories/35194/
 
 
file a bug at b.g.o.



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Re: [gentoo-user] security

2009-05-23 Thread Justin
Daniel Iliev wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Since I'm not familiar with Gentoo's practice in dealing with
   security problems I got curious about the following case.
   Yesterday a Secunia advisory [1] about pidgin was brought to my
   attention. The solution offered by the up-streams is upgrading to
   version 2.5.6, while the latest version in portage is ~2.5.5-r1.
 
   As I see it, there are three possibilities:
   1) even older, the version in Gentoo is not affected, because the
   maintainers had taken care of it (too optimistic?)
   2) Gentoo installations are still vulnerable to the bugs described in
   the advisory and nobody knows about it (quite disturbing)
   3) Gentoo maintainers are working on it, but still not ready
 
   Which one is it?
 
 
   [1] [SA35194] http://secunia.com/advisories/35194/
 
 

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270811



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Re: [gentoo-user] security

2009-05-23 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sat, 23 May 2009 09:23:27 -0400
Saphirus Sage saphirus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Daniel Iliev wrote:
Hi,
   
Since I'm not familiar with Gentoo's practice in dealing with
security problems I got curious about the following case.
Yesterday a Secunia advisory [1] about pidgin was brought to my
attention. The solution offered by the up-streams is upgrading to
version 2.5.6, while the latest version in portage is ~2.5.5-r1.
 
As I see it, there are three possibilities:
1) even older, the version in Gentoo is not affected, because the
maintainers had taken care of it (too optimistic?)
2) Gentoo installations are still vulnerable to the bugs
  described in the advisory and nobody knows about it (quite
  disturbing) 3) Gentoo maintainers are working on it, but still not
  ready
 
Which one is it?
 
 
[1] [SA35194] http://secunia.com/advisories/35194/
 
 

 It's in portage, sync your tree and check again. I just installed
 Pidgin 2.5.6 last night.
 

I guess the mirror I'm using is not up-to-date and they will get a
report about it,

Thanks!

-- 
Best regards,
Daniel



Re: [gentoo-user] firefox 3.0.10 crashes

2009-05-23 Thread Robin Atwood
On Saturday 23 May 2009, dhk wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
  On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote:
  Ever since I upgraded firefox to version 3 it crashes when certain pages
  are opened.  Currently I have version 3.0.10 and amd64.  I've been
  hoping the problem would get fixed, but it hasn't been yet.  For example
  I can not even go to ebay ( http://www.ebay.com ), the page flashes and
  then firefox crashes.  Does anyone know what's causing this and how it
  can be fixed?
 
  My guess would be flash... try uninstalling flash, java,
  nspluginwrapper, disabling add-ons, etc one by one until you find the
  cause.

 It was the adobe-flash.  I uninstalled it and all was fine.  The emerge
 -pv adobe-flash looks like the following:
 [ebuild  N] www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.0.22.87  USE=32bit (multilib).

 I installed it again and Firefox crashes on certain sites.  So now it's
 uninstalled again.  At least Firefox is stable now.  Is there a flash
 that works?

If you are on amd64 you could specify the -32bit use flag. 

HTH
-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] [solved] security

2009-05-23 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sat, 23 May 2009 15:31:27 +0200
Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net wrote:

 Daniel Iliev wrote:
  
  
[1] [SA35194] http://secunia.com/advisories/35194/
  
  
 
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270811
 

Thanks.

-- 
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Daniel



Re: [gentoo-user] security

2009-05-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 23 Mai 2009, Daniel Iliev wrote:
   Hi,

   Since I'm not familiar with Gentoo's practice in dealing with
   security problems I got curious about the following case.
   Yesterday a Secunia advisory [1] about pidgin was brought to my
   attention. The solution offered by the up-streams is upgrading to
   version 2.5.6, while the latest version in portage is ~2.5.5-r1.

   As I see it, there are three possibilities:
   1) even older, the version in Gentoo is not affected, because the
   maintainers had taken care of it (too optimistic?)
   2) Gentoo installations are still vulnerable to the bugs described in
   the advisory and nobody knows about it (quite disturbing)
   3) Gentoo maintainers are working on it, but still not ready

   Which one is it?


   [1] [SA35194] http://secunia.com/advisories/35194/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is paludis bad for SSDs?

2009-05-23 Thread maxim wexler

 Are you using baselayout1 or baselayout2/openrc? 

Hadn't thought about it. baselayout-1.12.11.1 appears under 
/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/

Do you recommend migrating to openrc as per

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is paludis bad for SSDs?

2009-05-23 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 23. Mai 2009 18:30:43 schrieb maxim wexler:
  Are you using baselayout1 or baselayout2/openrc?

 Hadn't thought about it. baselayout-1.12.11.1 appears under
 /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/

 Do you recommend migrating to openrc as per

My point was not that you should migrate, but if you did or will do, you 
should make sure no bl1 initscripts remain on the system, as they can cause 
all kinds of strange things when used on a bl2/openrc system.

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 23 May 2009 06:59:10 -0500, Dale wrote:

 Hmmm, I think someone needs to rethink the system set then.  After all,
 portage does not work well without python.  It should keep a binary copy
 but it should also warn you if you are typing without your thinking cap
 on.

Portage is not in system, only the virtual. That can be satisfied
by Paludis, which does not need Python.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Is starting xdm enough to see something in X?

2009-05-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 May 2009 12:19:40 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 If there is absolutely no difference then I don't need to bother with
 this. If there is then I do. The real issue here is that Myth doesn't
 work. If I can be certain that displaying Myth apps on a remote
 screen, such as mythtv-setup or mythfrontend, is really the same then
 I'll just do that. However those apps are currently failing so I'm
 trying to eliminate issues, and possibly creating one I don't care
 about in doing that!

My mythbackend box does not have xorg-server installed. I run
mythtv-setup over SSH with no problems.


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Re: [gentoo-user] paludis --uninstall leaves stuff behind

2009-05-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 May 2009 14:06:37 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote:

 And rebooted -- same message. So I deleted /etc/cpufreqd.conf(Why
 didn't paludis -u get rid of it?).

Probably for the same reason that portage wouldn't, files in /etc/are
CONFIG_PROTECTed, or the Paludis equivalent of that.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Is starting xdm enough to see something in X?

2009-05-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Fri, 22 May 2009 12:19:40 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 If there is absolutely no difference then I don't need to bother with
 this. If there is then I do. The real issue here is that Myth doesn't
 work. If I can be certain that displaying Myth apps on a remote
 screen, such as mythtv-setup or mythfrontend, is really the same then
 I'll just do that. However those apps are currently failing so I'm
 trying to eliminate issues, and possibly creating one I don't care
 about in doing that!

 My mythbackend box does not have xorg-server installed. I run
 mythtv-setup over SSH with no problems.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

Yes, I can on my existing backend server, but on the new one I'm
building it doesn't seem to work.  I attempted to follow the
instructions here:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html

but for some reason it wouldn't work reliably. I think there may be 2 issues:

1) Somethign about my understanding of the mysql permissions
(privileges?) over the network not being right.

2) Something about having two backend servers on the network.

The frontend config files aren't very network aware as they hardwire
an IP address in them. Additionally there's something new with a
config.xml file which I just found out about and might be conflicting
with changes I made by hand to the mysql.txt file.

I've just in the last few minutes done a drop on the mythconverg
database and I'm starting over from scratch.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 23 May 2009 06:59:10 -0500, Dale wrote:

   
 Hmmm, I think someone needs to rethink the system set then.  After all,
 portage does not work well without python.  It should keep a binary copy
 but it should also warn you if you are typing without your thinking cap
 on.
 

 Portage is not in system, only the virtual. That can be   satisfied
 by Paludis, which does not need Python.


   

But if a person, me or the OP, is using portage then python needs to be
in there.  After all, isn't portage supported by Gentoo still?  Are we
all supposed to switch to Paludis so we will get a warning before
borking our system?

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Summary: X is hosed.

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
 Kevin O'Gorman writes:

 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I thank you for the expert advice.  I'm doing the emerge now, but even
  if it succeeds, I'm worried that the xorg-server will still own this
  file, since portageq seems to see that it does.  This seems inherently
  wrong.

 Well, it is indeed.

  Sigh.  I'm too far along to flinch now, so if this emerges, I'll
  probably restart X.
 
  Wish me luck.

 I do, but I do not believe bad things might happen.

 Hmm.  Even with the FEATURES option from the suggestion, I get exactly
 the same error message.  I cut-and-pasted it, but I wonder if it's
 spelled right?

 It is. But I forgot about the protect-owned feature. I thought -collision-
 protect would act stronger and imply it, but apparently it does not. So,
 'FEATURES=-protect-owned emerge ati-drivers' might have worked better. If
 not, 'FEATURES=-collision-protect -protect-owned emerge ati-drivers' would
 have worked in any case.

 I'm going to try just deleting (well, renaming) the file, hoping that
 this will work...

 Yes, that's okay. After all, the file is still there, it's just now being
 generated by the ati-driver. I wouldn't worry too much.

        Wonko

 well, it emerged this time.  I'm going to restart X over the weekend,
 when I'll have time to clean up the mess that I half expect.

 ++ kevin

As I suspected, X won't restart.

When I reboot, the scripts want to run xdm, which is not loaded on
the system.  This started a while ago and is part of what made me give
up on keeping the new xorg masked.

kdm does nothing at all that I can see, but it was the way I was
getting X up before I re-emerged the ati drivers.

startx at least gives error messages and writes the log.  It didn't
like my xorg.conf, and had this to say about it:
=
treat X11 # startx
xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.7467


X.Org X Server 1.5.3
Release Date: 5 November 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.28-gentoo-r5-kosmanor i686
Current Operating System: Linux treat 2.6.28-gentoo-r5-kosmanor #5 SMP
PREEMPT Tue May 19 13:17:14 PDT 2009 i686
Build Date: 18 May 2009  09:25:28PM

Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat May 23 14:54:31 2009
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (4)
(EE) Failed to load module ati (module requirement mismatch, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
treat X11 #
=
If I remove the xorg.conf file, the message about type1 goes away,
but it still won't load the ati drivers.

I'm at a loss.  Where do I go to get my X back?  I mean where in the
documentation, of course, but I'm open to other suggestions.

++ kevin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is paludis bad for SSDs?

2009-05-23 Thread maxim wexler

   Are you using baselayout1 or baselayout2/openrc?
 
  Hadn't thought about it. baselayout-1.12.11.1 appears
 under
  /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/
 
  Do you recommend migrating to openrc as per
 
 My point was not that you should migrate, but if you did or
 will do, you 
 should make sure no bl1 initscripts remain on the system,
 as they can cause 
 all kinds of strange things when used on a bl2/openrc
 system.
 
 Bye...
 
     Dirk

Thanks for the tip. Is this the sort of thing that benefits from turning off 
CONFIG_PROTECT in one or more dirs?. That seems to be what happened when I 
thought I had uninstalled _all_ of cpufreqd and cpufrequtils: the init files 
and conf remained.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-23 Thread Jorge Morais
On Sat, 23 May 2009 03:51:40 -0700 (PDT)
Jon Hardcastle jd_hardcas...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
  And finally, couldn't he have gotten a binary package from
  http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/dev-lang/
  ?
Have you not yet tried to get python from a binary package?
See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4669397.html#4669397
That is both the easiest and cleanest solution I have found so far,
(not that I have researched much, I admit).
And maybe you don't even have to extract the tarball manually with
tar; maybe you can use qmerge from app-portage/portage-utils
(AFAIK it is written in C).

Now, I do have concerns about your system having remains of multiple
python installations.

Any person with python knowledge can give an opinion on whether this
is dangerous? And what is the easiest way to clean the mess?

One idea: you can can recompile python with a safe
prefix (such as a subdir of your home), issue make install (not as root,
for increased safety) and see where Python install its files relative to
the prefix, so you can delete them from your system
(to be more careful before deleting a file, you can issue
qfile FILE to see if it is owned by a portage-installed package.
And in the end you can emerge python properly, from the sources, so all
the ebuild logic (which is more than just ./configure, make and make install)
gets applied, and you get a Python installation that respects your USE flags,
CFLAGS and other system-specific settings (obviously you don't get such a
system-customized python when you use the binary package from tinderbox).




Re: [gentoo-user] x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread David Relson
On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:57:32 -0700
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 Summary: X is hosed.
 

A couple of weeks back, I made the transition to the current versions
of xorg-server and ati-drivers, i.e. the versions in the message
subject.  I had to do a bit of work with xorg.conf before all was
good.  If I recall details, keyboard and mouse weren't working and,
after correcting that, fonts weren't being found.  All is now working
fine.  Below is my xorg.conf.  Hope it helps.

Regards,

David

### Begin xorg.conf ###

Section ServerFlags
   Option  AllowEmptyInput   false
EndSection

Section Files
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/util
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/encodings
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts
FontPath /usr/local/share/fonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/default
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi
EndSection

### End xorg.conf ###



[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

David Relson wrote:

On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:57:32 -0700
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:


Summary: X is hosed.



A couple of weeks back, I made the transition to the current versions
of xorg-server and ati-drivers, i.e. the versions in the message
subject.  I had to do a bit of work with xorg.conf before all was
good.  If I recall details, keyboard and mouse weren't working and,
after correcting that, fonts weren't being found.  All is now working
fine.  Below is my xorg.conf.  Hope it helps.

Regards,

David

### Begin xorg.conf ###

Section ServerFlags
   Option  AllowEmptyInput   false
EndSection

Section Files
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/util
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/encodings
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts
FontPath /usr/local/share/fonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/default
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi
EndSection

### End xorg.conf ###


This xorg.conf won't load ati-drivers at all.  If it works, it is 
probably running with another driver (radeon or vesa perhaps).  You need 
to run aticonfig --initial as root first.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 David Relson wrote:

 On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:57:32 -0700
 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 Summary: X is hosed.


 A couple of weeks back, I made the transition to the current versions
 of xorg-server and ati-drivers, i.e. the versions in the message
 subject.  I had to do a bit of work with xorg.conf before all was
 good.  If I recall details, keyboard and mouse weren't working and,
 after correcting that, fonts weren't being found.  All is now working
 fine.  Below is my xorg.conf.  Hope it helps.

 Regards,

 David

 ### Begin xorg.conf ###

 Section ServerFlags
       Option  AllowEmptyInput       false
 EndSection

 Section Files
        FontPath     /usr/share/fonts/util
        FontPath     /usr/share/fonts/encodings
        FontPath     /usr/share/fonts/misc
        FontPath     /usr/share/fonts/corefonts
        FontPath     /usr/local/share/fonts
        FontPath     /usr/share/fonts/default
        FontPath     /usr/share/fonts/Type1
        FontPath     /usr/share/fonts/100dpi
        FontPath     /usr/share/fonts/75dpi
 EndSection

 ### End xorg.conf ###

 This xorg.conf won't load ati-drivers at all.  If it works, it is probably
 running with another driver (radeon or vesa perhaps).  You need to run
 aticonfig --initial as root first.

Or he might have it in autoload already and it gets loaded at boot time?

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] was paludis and make.conf - reply to DH

2009-05-23 Thread maxim wexler



--- On Wed, 5/20/09, maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [gentoo-user] paludis and make.conf
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Received: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 1:57 PM
 
 Hi group,
 
 Now that I'm starting to use paludis in place of portage, I
 often see scoot by on my console something like:
 
 CONFIG_PROTECT CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK updating caches.
 
 Sure enough, under /var/db/pkg/.cache, appear the
 following:
 
 all_CONFIG_PROTECT
 all_CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK
 
 But how did paludis decide to use these variables?
 
 They don't appear in make.conf, in any of the /etc/paludis
 conf files or /etc/env.d files.
 
 Am I setting myself up for problems later? My world file
 has only 22 items in it so far.
 
 Maxim
 

You wrote:


Am Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009 22:57:05 schrieb maxim wexler:

 Now that I'm starting to use paludis in place of portage

Congratulations :-)

 Sure enough, under /var/db/pkg/.cache, appear the following:

 all_CONFIG_PROTECT
 all_CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK

 But how did paludis decide to use these variables?

 They don't appear in make.conf, in any of the /etc/paludis conf files or
 /etc/env.d files.

Some of the values come from defaults, the others are from ebuilds, which put
them into their /etc/env.d files:

% pwd
/etc/env.d
% grep -R CONFIG_PROTECT *
00basic:CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gentoo-release
09sandbox:CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/sandbox.d
20udev:CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/udev/rules.d
37fontconfig:CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/fonts/fonts.conf
43kdepaths:CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/share/config
50gconf:CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf
50ncurses:CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/terminfo
50postgresql-eselect:CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/eselect/postgresql
98ca-certificates:CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf
98texlive:CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/texmf/web2c /etc/texmf/language.dat.d
/etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d

 Am I setting myself up for problems later?

No, why?

 My world file has only 22 items in it so far.

???

Bye...

Thanks, a lot of useful info without having to search the docs :) I found your 
reply searching for info on CONFIG_PROTECT. For some reason Yahoo! never posted 
it. (My isp doesn't sponser a mail service ;()

What I meant by setting myself up was that as I install more and more 
packages it would seem any mistake I make now will be magnified. 

For instance, it appears CONFIG_PROTECT kept some important files in /etc/ 
after my trying to uninstall cpufreqd and cpufrequtils. Does this mean I need 
to turn on and off CONFIG_PROCTECT on an adhoc basis? Or is there some option 
to send to paludis to remove everything when it comes time to uninstall? I 
don't see anything under $man paludis - Uninstall options. It's not a 
dependancy thing is it? 

Anyways, my aim is to smooth the way forward before I get in too deep.


Maxim




 
      
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 David Relson wrote:

 On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:57:32 -0700
 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 Summary: X is hosed.


 A couple of weeks back, I made the transition to the current versions
 of xorg-server and ati-drivers, i.e. the versions in the message
 subject.  I had to do a bit of work with xorg.conf before all was
 good.  If I recall details, keyboard and mouse weren't working and,
 after correcting that, fonts weren't being found.  All is now working
 fine.  Below is my xorg.conf.  Hope it helps.

 Regards,

 David

 ### Begin xorg.conf ###

i
 ### End xorg.conf ###

 This xorg.conf won't load ati-drivers at all.  If it works, it is probably
 running with another driver (radeon or vesa perhaps).  You need to run
 aticonfig --initial as root first.

 Or he might have it in autoload already and it gets loaded at boot time?

 - Mark

When I tried aticonfig with my original xorg.conf, it got a seg fault.
 The same thing happens when I use David's.

Things are not going well.

++ kevin



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD



[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:

David Relson wrote:

On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:57:32 -0700
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:


Summary: X is hosed.


A couple of weeks back, I made the transition to the current versions
of xorg-server and ati-drivers, i.e. the versions in the message
subject.  I had to do a bit of work with xorg.conf before all was
good.  If I recall details, keyboard and mouse weren't working and,
after correcting that, fonts weren't being found.  All is now working
fine.  Below is my xorg.conf.  Hope it helps.

Regards,

David

### Begin xorg.conf ###


i

### End xorg.conf ###

This xorg.conf won't load ati-drivers at all.  If it works, it is probably
running with another driver (radeon or vesa perhaps).  You need to run
aticonfig --initial as root first.

Or he might have it in autoload already and it gets loaded at boot time?

- Mark


When I tried aticonfig with my original xorg.conf, it got a seg fault.
 The same thing happens when I use David's.

Things are not going well.


You should try the latest ati-drivers then.  8.552 is pretty old and 
very buggy.  The newer versions are also buggy, but less so then the old 
ones.





[gentoo-user] cannot install emacs/emacs-cvs with X use

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin
Hello,
  after reinstall my system, I can emerge neither emacs nor emacs-cvs
successfully on my gentoo. when proceeded to the working fork check,
it stops and hangs over, never go ahead.

build.log:
http://dpaste.com/hold/47083/

and here it is emerge --info:
http://dpaste.com/hold/47084/

I can only USE=-X emerge app-editors/emacs-cvs, but I don't know
why, other programs emerge well.

config.log is too large to send to dpaste.com, I've attached it, hope
someone can help me, thanks in advance.


config.log.tar.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread David Relson
On Sun, 24 May 2009 01:22:06 +0300
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

...[snip]...

  ### Begin xorg.conf ###
  
  Section ServerFlags
 Option  AllowEmptyInput   false
  EndSection
  
  Section Files
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/util
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/encodings
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts
  FontPath /usr/local/share/fonts
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/default
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi
  EndSection
  
  ### End xorg.conf ###
 
 This xorg.conf won't load ati-drivers at all.  If it works, it is 
 probably running with another driver (radeon or vesa perhaps).  You
 need to run aticonfig --initial as root first.


Really?  My understanding had been that xorg-server-1.5.3 uses evdev and
runs happily without an xorg.conf file.  Without an xorg.conf I had
keyboard and font problems -- cured by the above configuration.

As an experiment, I ran the suggested command ( aticonfig
--initial ).  This added a lot to xorg.con and I then restarted X.
My screen resolution dropped from 1280x1024 to 640x480 and the screen
looked awful.  

I've returned to the short config shown above.

To be honest, I don't know which display driver is in use and don't
much care since the display is working fine AFAICT.

David



[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

David Relson wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 01:22:06 +0300
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

...[snip]...


### Begin xorg.conf ###

Section ServerFlags
   Option  AllowEmptyInput   false
EndSection

Section Files
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/util
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/encodings
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts
FontPath /usr/local/share/fonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/default
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi
EndSection

### End xorg.conf ###
This xorg.conf won't load ati-drivers at all.  If it works, it is 
probably running with another driver (radeon or vesa perhaps).  You

need to run aticonfig --initial as root first.



Really?  My understanding had been that xorg-server-1.5.3 uses evdev and
runs happily without an xorg.conf file.  Without an xorg.conf I had
keyboard and font problems -- cured by the above configuration.

As an experiment, I ran the suggested command ( aticonfig
--initial ).  This added a lot to xorg.con and I then restarted X.
My screen resolution dropped from 1280x1024 to 640x480 and the screen
looked awful.  


I've returned to the short config shown above.

To be honest, I don't know which display driver is in use and don't
much care since the display is working fine AFAICT.


The only reason to use ati-drivers is to have fast, accelerated OpenGL. 
 You're probably not using ati-drivers at all.  So you're a bit 
off-topic to this whole thread :P  fglrx (ati-drivers) required an 
xorg.conf entry.  This is done with aticonfig --initial and after that 
you have to run the Catalyst Control Center (amdcccle in a terminal, 
you'll also find it in the start menu) and adjust your resolution and 
other settings (anti-aliasing, vsync, anisotropic filters, etc.) there.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 24 Mai 2009, David Relson wrote:
 On Sun, 24 May 2009 01:22:06 +0300
 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 ...[snip]...

   ### Begin xorg.conf ###
  
   Section ServerFlags
  Option  AllowEmptyInput   false
   EndSection
  
   Section Files
 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/util
 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/encodings
 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc
 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts
 FontPath /usr/local/share/fonts
 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/default
 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi
 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi
   EndSection
  
   ### End xorg.conf ###
 
  This xorg.conf won't load ati-drivers at all.  If it works, it is
  probably running with another driver (radeon or vesa perhaps).  You
  need to run aticonfig --initial as root first.

 Really?  My understanding had been that xorg-server-1.5.3 uses evdev and
 runs happily without an xorg.conf file.  Without an xorg.conf I had
 keyboard and font problems -- cured by the above configuration.

 As an experiment, I ran the suggested command ( aticonfig
 --initial ).  This added a lot to xorg.con and I then restarted X.
 My screen resolution dropped from 1280x1024 to 640x480 and the screen
 looked awful.

 I've returned to the short config shown above.

 To be honest, I don't know which display driver is in use and don't
 much care since the display is working fine AFAICT.

 David

Section ServerLayout 
Identifier Layout0   
Screen  0  aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 0 0
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard 
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer 
EndSection

Section Files
EndSection 

Section Module
Load  evdev
Load  v4l  
EndSection   

Section ServerFlags
 Option DontZap no
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  evdev 
Option  CorePointer
Option  Name Logitech, Inc. MX610 Laser Cordless Mouse
Option  evBits +1-2   
Option  keyBits ~272-287  
Option  relBits ~0-2 ~6 ~8
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  evdev
Option  AutoRepeat 500 30
Option  XkbRules xorg
Option  XkbModel evdev
Option  XkbLayout de
Option  Device /dev/input/event2
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0
Option  VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver
Option  ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor
Option  DPMS true
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  aticonfig-Device[0]-0
Driver  fglrx
BusID   PCI:2:0:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0
Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0
Monitoraticonfig-Monitor[0]-0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

works fine, 1680x1050 is the natural resolution of my display - automatically 
chosen by X on start. Thanks to no modes or modelines I have a bazillion of 
possible resolutions via randr available (either setting them with krandrtray 
or xrandr).




[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

Getting desperate

Anyway, with no xorg.conf, I see
= screen stuff starts
treat ~ # startx
xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.6892


New driver is ati


The driver from ati-drivers is fglrx, not ati.  ati doesn't even 
really exist anymore, it's a wrapper between radeon and the old 
mach64 drivers for non-Radeon cards.


For Radeon cards, there are fglrx (in ati-drivers binary package), 
radeon (in xf86-video-radeon package) and radeonhd (in 
xf86-video-radeonhd package).


For fglrx to be loaded, you *really need* a section for it in 
xorg.conf. It will *never* get auto-loaded. Ever. Either you put that by 
hand in xorg.conf or automatically with aticonfig --initial. If you 
don't, that driver will *never* be loaded.