Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Inspiron M1710

2007-05-03 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Wed, 02 May 2007 20:18:46 -0400 Colleen Beamer
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  Hm, OK, I see. Does your kernel's command line contain a valid
  video=... setting?
 
 I'm not sure what you mean here.  In my make.conf file, I have the
 line video_cards=nvidia

No, I'm talking about boot loader configuration (the boot loader passes
a command line to the kernel on which there should be a video
parameter being set). Maybe genkernel does it for you, I can't tell
since I never used genkernel and probably never will.

  Are you sure you're handing it a recognized mode
  string? (I.e. when there's something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or so,
  the values aren't freely configurable but must match a valid video
  mode for the framebuffer driver in question -- most of them use
  those from the modedb). Also, you'll need not just framebuffer,
  but framebuffer console support, too.
 
 I use genkernel and there is a screen resolution of something that
 says 1024x768 and I can't edit it.  I also don't know what my
 horizontal and vertical sync are because it's not in my documentation
 and when I used ddxcinfo-knoppix -hsync, it returns 0 0 and
 ddcxinfo-knoppix -modlines doesn't have a corresponding mode for my
 monitor - the resolution is 1920x1200.

I'm really out of ideas here: I don't know how much genkernel
automatizes the kernel configuration and don't use it myself. Also, it
depends on the framebuffer driver whether it matches the configured
video mode with some information from the monitor.

Did you check the kernel log for errors, as suggested?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Inspiron M1710

2007-05-02 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Wed, 02 May 2007 00:47:21 -0400 Colleen Beamer
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 I'm having a heck of a time with the nvidia-drivers on my new Dell
 Inspiron M1710.  I can install the driver, but when the laptop is
 booting, the font doesn't resize - something do do with the
 framebuffer, but I don't know how to correct it - I've followed the
 nvidia Guide from the documentation.

What does the font doesn't resize mean exactly and how's that looking
errorneous to you? What font are you even talking about? Since you're
talking about the framebuffer, you're probably talking about the text
console font? Does that even matter (i.e. are you using the text
console)?

AFAIK, nvidia-drivers don't have framebuffer support at all. In order
to have a graphical console on bootup, you need to configure other
framebuffer drivers in your kernel. I think the suggested one to use in
combination w/ nvidia-drivers (the combination matters for switching
between X and console) is vesa or vesa-tng.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Inspiron M1710

2007-05-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Wed, 02 May 2007 00:47:21 -0400 Colleen Beamer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm having a heck of a time with the nvidia-drivers on my new Dell
 Inspiron M1710.  I can install the driver, but when the laptop is
 booting, the font doesn't resize - something do do with the
 framebuffer, but I don't know how to correct it - I've followed the
 nvidia Guide from the documentation.
 
 What does the font doesn't resize mean exactly and how's that looking
 errorneous to you? 

It's not that it's erroneous. I'm just being a bit anal.  In all my
other Gentoo installations, when the computer boots up, the font starts
out large, then there is a sort of blip and the penguin graphic appears
and the font becomes smaller.  I'm not a programmer, but was told this
had something to do with the framebuffer.  This large font is driving me
nuts because any command issued at the command line, for instance lspci
results in half the information scrolling off screen unless you use a
pipe.  I know that isn't all that big a deal, but it's not what I'm used
to.  I've always dealt with ATI cards and had I had a choice, I wouldn't
have gotten an nvidia card in this laptop, but I didn't.


  AFAIK, nvidia-drivers don't have framebuffer support at all. In order
 to have a graphical console on bootup, you need to configure other
 framebuffer drivers in your kernel. I think the suggested one to use in
 combination w/ nvidia-drivers (the combination matters for switching
 between X and console) is vesa or vesa-tng.

This is correct, And I'm using vesa-tng.

Thanks anyway,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Inspiron M1710

2007-05-02 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Wed, 02 May 2007 08:14:03 -0400 Colleen Beamer
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  What does the font doesn't resize mean exactly and how's that
  looking errorneous to you? 
 
 It's not that it's erroneous. I'm just being a bit anal.  In all my
 other Gentoo installations, when the computer boots up, the font
 starts out large, then there is a sort of blip and the penguin
 graphic appears and the font becomes smaller.  I'm not a programmer,
 but was told this had something to do with the framebuffer.  This
 large font is driving me nuts because any command issued at the
 command line, for instance lspci results in half the information
 scrolling off screen unless you use a pipe.  I know that isn't all
 that big a deal, but it's not what I'm used to.

Hm, OK, I see. Does your kernel's command line contain a valid
video=... setting? Are you sure you're handing it a recognized mode
string? (I.e. when there's something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or so, the
values aren't freely configurable but must match a valid video mode for
the framebuffer driver in question -- most of them use those from the
modedb). Also, you'll need not just framebuffer, but framebuffer
console support, too.

The vesa(-tng) driver is loaded early in the kernel's boot process.
Maybe you find some mention of an error in your kernel log ring buffer
(dmesg)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Inspiron M1710

2007-05-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Wed, 02 May 2007 08:14:03 -0400 Colleen Beamer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What does the font doesn't resize mean exactly and how's that
 looking errorneous to you? 
 It's not that it's erroneous. I'm just being a bit anal.  In all my
 other Gentoo installations, when the computer boots up, the font
 starts out large, then there is a sort of blip and the penguin
 graphic appears and the font becomes smaller..
 
 Hm, OK, I see. Does your kernel's command line contain a valid
 video=... setting?

I'm not sure what you mean here.  In my make.conf file, I have the line
video_cards=nvidia

 Are you sure you're handing it a recognized mode
 string? (I.e. when there's something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or so, the
 values aren't freely configurable but must match a valid video mode for
 the framebuffer driver in question -- most of them use those from the
 modedb). Also, you'll need not just framebuffer, but framebuffer
 console support, too.

I use genkernel and there is a screen resolution of something that says
1024x768 and I can't edit it.  I also don't know what my horizontal and
vertical sync are because it's not in my documentation and when I used
ddxcinfo-knoppix -hsync, it returns 0 0 and ddcxinfo-knoppix -modlines
doesn't have a corresponding mode for my monitor - the resolution is
1920x1200.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Inspiron M1710

2007-05-02 Thread C Lee Davis
Colleen Beamer wrote:
 I use genkernel and there is a screen resolution of something that says
 1024x768 and I can't edit it.  I also don't know what my horizontal and
 vertical sync are because it's not in my documentation and when I used
 ddxcinfo-knoppix -hsync, it returns 0 0 and ddcxinfo-knoppix -modlines
 doesn't have a corresponding mode for my monitor - the resolution is
 1920x1200.
 
Coleen, I've had no luck getting the framebuffer console to recognize 16:9
aspect ratios.  My XPS M1710 boots up to a 1600x1200 console and then starts X
to go to full 1920x1200 resolution.

The relevant lines from my my kernel's .config:

CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
# CONFIG_FB_VESA_STD is not set
CONFIG_FB_VESA_TNG=y
CONFIG_FB_VESA_DEFAULT_MODE=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Inspiron M1710

2007-05-01 Thread Colleen Beamer
Hi all,

I'm having a heck of a time with the nvidia-drivers on my new Dell
Inspiron M1710.  I can install the driver, but when the laptop is
booting, the font doesn't resize - something do do with the framebuffer,
but I don't know how to correct it - I've followed the nvidia Guide from
the documentation.

I never had half the problems with the ATI-drivers that I am having with
the nvidia ones.

Anyway, has anyone done a successful install on this model?

Regards,

Colleen
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