Re: [gentoo-user] Use Flags
On 07/25/12 at 06:55pm, Silvio Siefke wrote: > > The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: > mikmod? ( mod ) Hi, The above messages is telling you that, if the 'mikmod' useflag is set the 'mod' use flag neeeds to be set too. > gentoo-desk ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use | grep sdl-mixer > media-libs/sdl-mixer mikmod wav -flac -fluidsynth -mad -midi -mod -modplug > -mp3 -playtools -smpeg -static-libs -timidity -vorbis You need to add the 'mod' useflag like this. media-libs/sdl-mixer mikmod wav mod -flac -fluidsynth -mad -midi -modplug -mp3 -playtools -smpeg -static-libs -timidity -vorbis -- - Yohan Pereira
Re: [gentoo-user] Use Flags
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:55:58 +0200 Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > after longer time want update my Gentoo PC. But ever come error msg > with the USE Flags. I not know what say me Gentoo with the message. > > gentoo-desk ~ # emerge -uDN world > Calculating dependencies... done! > > !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "media-libs/sdl-mixer[mikmod]" has > unmet requirements. > - media-libs/sdl-mixer-1.2.12-r1::gentoo USE="mikmod wav -flac > -fluidsynth -mad -midi -mod -modplug -mp3 -playtools -smpeg > -static-libs -timidity -vorbis" > > The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: > mikmod? ( mod ) > > The above constraints are a subset of the following complete > expression: midi? ( any-of ( timidity fluidsynth ) ) timidity? ( midi > ) fluidsynth? ( midi ) mp3? ( any-of ( smpeg mad ) ) smpeg? ( mp3 ) > mad? ( mp3 ) mod? ( any-of ( mikmod modplug ) ) mikmod? ( mod ) > modplug? ( mod ) > > (dependency required by "games-kids/tuxmath-1.7.2" [installed]) > (dependency required by "@selected" [set]) > (dependency required by "@world" [argument]) > > > gentoo-desk ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use | grep sdl-mixer > media-libs/sdl-mixer mikmod wav -flac -fluidsynth -mad -midi -mod > -modplug -mp3 -playtools -smpeg -static-libs -timidity -vorbis > > I understand not what want me say the system? > > > Thanks for help. > > Regards > Silvio > Your USE for media-libs/sdl-mixer has this: "mikmod -mod" The system wants "mod" if "mikmod" is set, or both to be off. Add this to /etc/portage/package.mask: media-libs/sdl-mixer mod -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Use Flags
On Thu, Jul 26 2012, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:55:58 +0200 > Silvio Siefke wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> after longer time want update my Gentoo PC. But ever come error msg >> with the USE Flags. I not know what say me Gentoo with the message. >> >> gentoo-desk ~ # emerge -uDN world >> Calculating dependencies... done! >> >> !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "media-libs/sdl-mixer[mikmod]" has >> unmet requirements. >> - media-libs/sdl-mixer-1.2.12-r1::gentoo USE="mikmod wav -flac >> -fluidsynth -mad -midi -mod -modplug -mp3 -playtools -smpeg >> -static-libs -timidity -vorbis" >> >> The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: >> mikmod? ( mod ) >> >> The above constraints are a subset of the following complete >> expression: midi? ( any-of ( timidity fluidsynth ) ) timidity? ( midi >> ) fluidsynth? ( midi ) mp3? ( any-of ( smpeg mad ) ) smpeg? ( mp3 ) >> mad? ( mp3 ) mod? ( any-of ( mikmod modplug ) ) mikmod? ( mod ) >> modplug? ( mod ) >> >> (dependency required by "games-kids/tuxmath-1.7.2" [installed]) >> (dependency required by "@selected" [set]) >> (dependency required by "@world" [argument]) >> >> >> gentoo-desk ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use | grep sdl-mixer >> media-libs/sdl-mixer mikmod wav -flac -fluidsynth -mad -midi -mod >> -modplug -mp3 -playtools -smpeg -static-libs -timidity -vorbis >> >> I understand not what want me say the system? >> >> >> Thanks for help. >> >> Regards >> Silvio >> > > Your USE for media-libs/sdl-mixer has this: "mikmod -mod" > > The system wants "mod" if "mikmod" is set, or both to be off. > > Add this to /etc/portage/package.mask: > > > media-libs/sdl-mixer mod Don't you mean /etc/portage/package.use not .mask ? allan
Re: [gentoo-user] Use Flags
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:22:25 -0400 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > > Your USE for media-libs/sdl-mixer has this: "mikmod -mod" > > > > The system wants "mod" if "mikmod" is set, or both to be off. > > > > Add this to /etc/portage/package.mask: > > > > > > media-libs/sdl-mixer mod > > Don't you mean /etc/portage/package.use not .mask ? Yes indeed, that's what I meant. Good catch :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
> I'm trying to avoid a big, bloated system without going too crazy here. > Any suggestions? Your problem is going to be the incremental enabling thing you'd like to do. If you add a new USE flag later on, you need to emerge with the newuse flag which will result in a larger emerge than what you expect. For example, if you build your system then add the alsa use flag and emerge with newuse, you'll basically be rebuilding X, kde and/or gnome, etc. A huge task for such a simple flag addition. Your best bet is to determine the use flags that you intend on using in the final system and be selective about what you emerge to keep the system size under control. Unless, of course, you don't mind recompiling big parts of the system for use case changes... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Vincent A. Primavera wrote: > Hello, >Just looking for some opinions here. What is a good approach > to installing applications with a minimal amount of optional USE flags > enabled? For example, if one were to run `emerge -pv kde-base/kde` you > would be presented with many, many dependencies and USE flags. I > would prefer to install less upfront and add on later as needed. > Doing an `emerge -pv $packagename` then looking through the > dependencies and their USE flags each time, to me, doesn't seem like > the best method. I took a look at the list of USE flags at > http://www.gentoo-portage.com/USE and disabling dozens of them in > /etc/make.conf doesn't seem like a great method either. I'm trying to > avoid a big, bloated system without going too crazy here. Any > suggestions? > -- >Thank you, > >Vincent A. Primavera. >Director of Information Technology. >Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. Hi, Recently there was such discussion, only about the default USE-flags (in current profile). By memory the solution was: "-* only desired USE-flags here, ex. alsa crypt readline ..." in '/etc/make.conf' "-*" disables quite all (only all optional w/o the required ones) and turns ON the USE-flags following it. PS: watch out there are 2-3 flags which are absolutely required for a sane system, check ML-archive (readline is one). HTH. Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Vincent A. Primavera wrote: Hello, Just looking for some opinions here. What is a good approach to installing applications with a minimal amount of optional USE flags enabled? For example, if one were to run `emerge -pv kde-base/kde` you would be presented with many, many dependencies and USE flags. I would prefer to install less upfront and add on later as needed. Doing an `emerge -pv $packagename` then looking through the dependencies and their USE flags each time, to me, doesn't seem like the best method. I took a look at the list of USE flags at http://www.gentoo-portage.com/USE and disabling dozens of them in /etc/make.conf doesn't seem like a great method either. I'm trying to avoid a big, bloated system without going too crazy here. Any suggestions? -- Thank you, Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. Hi, Recently there was such discussion, only about the default USE-flags (in current profile). By memory the solution was: "-* only desired USE-flags here, ex. alsa crypt readline ..." in '/etc/make.conf' "-*" disables quite all (only all optional w/o the required ones) and turns ON the USE-flags following it. PS: watch out there are 2-3 flags which are absolutely required for a sane system, check ML-archive (readline is one). HTH. Rumen Hello, This looks like what I am leaning towards. Now I just have to find out what those few critical flags are ;o} Thanks all! -- Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Vincent A. Primavera wrote: Hello, Just looking for some opinions here. What is a good approach to installing applications with a minimal amount of optional USE flags enabled? For example, if one were to run `emerge -pv kde-base/kde` you Hi, regarding kde, you might want to try the split ebuilds if you haven't heard of them before: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml About the USE flags, sorry i have no better sane solution to your problem than to disable all at the beginning and then incrementally enabling more when you need them... Marco -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Vincent A. Primavera wrote: Hello, Just looking for some opinions here. What is a good approach to installing applications with a minimal amount of optional USE flags enabled? For example, if one were to run `emerge -pv kde-base/kde` you would be presented with many, many dependencies and USE flags. I would prefer to install less upfront and add on later as needed. Doing an `emerge -pv $packagename` then looking through the dependencies and their USE flags each time, to me, doesn't seem like the best method. I took a look at the list of USE flags at http://www.gentoo-portage.com/USE and disabling dozens of them in /etc/make.conf doesn't seem like a great method either. I'm trying to avoid a big, bloated system without going too crazy here. Any suggestions? -- Thank you, Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. Hi, Recently there was such discussion, only about the default USE-flags (in current profile). By memory the solution was: "-* only desired USE-flags here, ex. alsa crypt readline ..." in '/etc/make.conf' "-*" disables quite all (only all optional w/o the required ones) and turns ON the USE-flags following it. PS: watch out there are 2-3 flags which are absolutely required for a sane system, check ML-archive (readline is one). HTH. Rumen Hello, This looks like what I am leaning towards. Now I just have to find out what those few critical flags are ;o} Thanks all! -- Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hello, I found this below at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11993814: USE="-* tcpd crypt ssl pam ncurses zlib readline". Does it look as minimalistic *and* safe as possible? -- Thank you, Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
John Dangler wrote: I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop. I'm trying to get my arms around the USE flags. I found a set of 'default' settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults . From what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of default USE= flags. What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to my own make.conf file? Thanks, as always, for the input. John D I believe it takes the default USE flags from /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/make.defaults (since I am on a x86) The way the system works is that it applies those default USE flags unless you say otherwise. The way to alter the default USE flags for your system is to edit your /etc/make.conf and make additions/subtractions from the USE flags. Basically this is a way to customise your system to the way you want it. This site shows them all and a brief description http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml The best way to see what USE flags are currently set is # emerge info as this takes into account the defaults and all the changes you have made through /etc/make.conf For instance in the default USE flags has USE="alsa apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups eds(many more)" If you don't have a printer on your system, there is little point in having cups as a USE flag (it will add unnecessary time to compile your packages). So in your /etc/make.conf file you can put USE="-cups" Same thing if you don't want to use kde, and say you want to have mozilla support on your system as well you would end up with. USE=-cups -kde mozilla" Then if you run # emerge info again it will have removed cups and kde from the USE flags and added mozilla to the list as well. Hope that helps Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
John Dangler wrote: I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop. I'm trying to get my arms around the USE flags. I found a set of 'default' settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults . From what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of default USE= flags. What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to my own make.conf file? The relevant part in the docs: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2 A list of all USE flags: http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml Marco -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags
The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming. And many of them, I wouldn't really know if I need them or not. So far, since I only have the base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE="-X" with the system level apps (although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like cdrtools/dvdrtools). I did find the defaults (thanks!) and have added those as comments in my make.conf file just for my own reference. I figure that the next step (aside from the reading of the online docs) is to get cd tools and anti-virus (clam looks good) running. At the point that I think I have everything at this level, I intend to back it up (jic), and then install X, sound, and get a graphical environment running - at least that looks to be the most logical next steps... I really appreciate the feedback!!! John D -Original Message- From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:51 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags John Dangler wrote: > I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop. I'm > trying to get my arms around the USE flags. I found a set of 'default' > settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults . From > what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of > default USE= flags. What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference > between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to my > own make.conf file? The relevant part in the docs: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2 A list of all USE flags: http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml Marco -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
The way dependencies seem to work with portage, I wouldn't bother "installing x". Just install say kde or gnome or whatever (see the docs) and X will be installed and configured automagically. for instance, I installed this dell laptop, then emerged kde-meta (be patient if you try that...my poor celeron took 16 hours to do that) and followed the documentation for kde on the gentoo site and it's all happy...except sound works in xmms, but not kde sytem notificationsnot sure why, but it's at the BOTTOM of my list. On Friday 19 August 2005 21:19, John Dangler wrote: > The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming. And many of them, I > wouldn't really know if I need them or not. So far, since I only have the > base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a > graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE="-X" with the system level apps > (although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like > cdrtools/dvdrtools). > > I did find the defaults (thanks!) and have added those as comments in my > make.conf file just for my own reference. > > I figure that the next step (aside from the reading of the online docs) is > to get cd tools and anti-virus (clam looks good) running. > > At the point that I think I have everything at this level, I intend to back > it up (jic), and then install X, sound, and get a graphical environment > running - at least that looks to be the most logical next steps... > > I really appreciate the feedback!!! > > John D > > -Original Message- > From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:51 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags > > John Dangler wrote: > > I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop. > > I'm trying to get my arms around the USE flags. I found a set of > > 'default' settings (I think) under > > /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults . From what I've read in the > > gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of default USE= flags. > > What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference between what's there and > > the 'total' list, and why would I add others to > > my > > > own make.conf file? > > The relevant part in the docs: > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2 > > A list of all USE flags: > http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml > > Marco > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
John Dangler wrote: The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming. And many of them, I wouldn't really know if I need them or not. So far, since I only have the base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE="-X" with the system level apps (although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like cdrtools/dvdrtools). just add the ones you need -- you're not missing out on anything :) you can always add them later on when you need them I really appreciate the feedback!!! no problem Marco -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:46:21PM -0400, John Dangler wrote > I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop. I'm > trying to get my arms around the USE flags. I found a set of 'default' > settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults . From > what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of > default USE= flags. What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference > between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to my > own make.conf file? The default settings for X86 machines using 2005.1 is the sum of base, default-linux, default-linux/x86 and default-linux/x86/2005.1. It's the developers' attempt to be all things to all people. However, one size does not fit all. For instance default-linux/x86/make.defaults contains the statement... USE="alsa apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups eds emboss encode fortran foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib ipv6 jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl png python qt quicktime readline sdl spell ssl tcpd truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv zlib" While the KDE and GNOME people make some great *APPLICATIONS* (e.g. Koffice, Gnumeric, AbiWord, etc) their "desktop environments" are fat, bloated, resource-hogging, eye-candy that accomplish nothing other than to make a P4 emulate a PII with half the RAM. I don't want the "gnome" or "kde" flags. That means dumping the "arts" flag, because ARTS depends on KDE and building ARTS will result in building KDE. Why is "oss" in there as a flag, given that OSS is deprecated? PAM is a good idea for somebody running a server with multiple external users accessing it. IMHO, PAM belongs in the optional security packages, with hardened linux, and NSA SELinux. For the average home desktop, PAM is a PITA. The 90%+ of the online world that doesn't use IPV6 can do without the "ipv6" flag, thank you. When the "ipv6" flag was introduced, a lot of people noticed their internet apps would sit there for 90 seconds, time out IPV6, and then try IPV4 addresses... oops. To block that, put "-ipv6" in your USE. My approach is to use "-*" which zaps all flags, then specify the ones *I* want/need. If a particular package wants/needs a specific flag, hey that's what /etc/portage/package.use is for. If enough packages need a specific flag, I'll think about adding it to my USE variable. Here's what I have... USE="-* a52 aac alsa apm audiofile dio encode exif ffmpeg flac foomatic fortran gb gif gstreamer gtk2 ieee1394 jpeg maildir mikmod mmap mmx mng ncurses offensive ogg opengl plotutil png posix quicktime sdl slang sse sse2 theora threads tiff truetype vorbis win32codecs wmf xv" Your specific needs will differ, depending on what *YOU* run on your machine. -- Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:42 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: > Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I > know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but > I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on > my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any > use flags it got all . > > Sorry for the question, and thank you all. Don't mind,but what's your question?? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
Jaap van Geffen wrote: On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:42 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any use flags it got all . Sorry for the question, and thank you all. Don't mind,but what's your question?? My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do not have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I emerge anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags will make any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what flags each package need. Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. Thank you. Allan
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
> > My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do not > have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I emerge > anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags will make > any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what flags each > package need. > > Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. > > Thank you. Allan > Allan, Your English isn't that bad at all. OK - not using some USE flags or using other USE flags will change the software. It changes the way the software is compiled and presumably this changes the software. Some of the flags add features to the software. Some seem to effect the way the software is built. Whether any of this matters is probably best determined by you. Does the machine run 'fast enough'. does the softwar 'have the right features'. This is an individual's choice I think. Anyway, there is really nothing about USE flags that you cannot recover from. If you find later that you want something different then change the flag and rebuild the software. Good luck, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
quoth the Allan Spagnol Comar: > Jaap van Geffen wrote: > >On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:42 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: > >>Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I > >>know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but > >>I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on > >>my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any > >>use flags it got all . > >> > >>Sorry for the question, and thank you all. > > > >Don't mind,but what's your question?? > > My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do > not have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I > emerge anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags > will make any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what > flags each package need. > > Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. > > Thank you. Allan Adding '-v' to your emerge commands will provide a list of what use flags each package can use, and how your currently set use flags relate to that. $ equery uses packagename will also display this info, as well as a brief description of what the flag does. Sometimes though, these sentences are not too descriptive. In any event, the surefire way to see what a use flag is doing is to look at the ebuild script. -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgpNA2IjmCLMc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do not >>have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I emerge >>anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags will make >>any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what flags each >>package need. >> >> Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. >> >> Thank you. Allan >> >> >> >Allan, > Your English isn't that bad at all. > > OK - not using some USE flags or using other USE flags will change >the software. It changes the way the software is compiled and >presumably this changes the software. Some of the flags add features >to the software. Some seem to effect the way the software is built. > > Whether any of this matters is probably best determined by you. >Does the machine run 'fast enough'. does the softwar 'have the right >features'. This is an individual's choice I think. > > Anyway, there is really nothing about USE flags that you cannot >recover from. If you find later that you want something different then >change the flag and rebuild the software. > >Good luck, >Mark > > > Thank you. I will build some packs to see the diference -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
darren kirby wrote: >quoth the Allan Spagnol Comar: > > >>Jaap van Geffen wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:42 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: >>> >>> Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any use flags it got all . Sorry for the question, and thank you all. >>>Don't mind,but what's your question?? >>> >>> >>My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do >>not have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I >>emerge anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags >>will make any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what >>flags each package need. >> >>Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. >> >>Thank you. Allan >> >> > >Adding '-v' to your emerge commands will provide a list of what use flags each >package can use, and how your currently set use flags relate to that. > >$ equery uses packagename > >will also display this info, as well as a brief description of what the flag >does. Sometimes though, these sentences are not too descriptive. In any >event, the surefire way to see what a use flag is doing is to look at the >ebuild script. > >-d > > this is helping a lot. Thank you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: >darren kirby wrote: > > > >>quoth the Allan Spagnol Comar: >> >> >> >> >>>Jaap van Geffen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:42 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: >Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I >know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but >I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on >my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any >use flags it got all . > >Sorry for the question, and thank you all. > > > > Don't mind,but what's your question?? >>>My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do >>>not have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I >>>emerge anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags >>>will make any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what >>>flags each package need. >>> >>>Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. >>> >>>Thank you. Allan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Adding '-v' to your emerge commands will provide a list of what use flags >>each >>package can use, and how your currently set use flags relate to that. >> >>$ equery uses packagename >> >>will also display this info, as well as a brief description of what the flag >>does. Sometimes though, these sentences are not too descriptive. In any >>event, the surefire way to see what a use flag is doing is to look at the >>ebuild script. >> >>-d >> >> >> >> >this is helping a lot. Thank you. > > Hi, Just to add some info, IMHO even when not using any USE-flags there are some default flags (see them in /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/make.defaults file) and when you put some USE-flags in /etc/make.conf they are merged/override these default USE-flags and then the result is used. Somebody correct if something wrong here. Using cascading-profiles. HTH. Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
On Wed, 04 May 2005 08:00:33 +0300, Rumen Yotov wrote: > Just to add some info, IMHO even when not using any USE-flags there are > some default flags (see them in > /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/make.defaults file) and when you > put some USE-flags in /etc/make.conf they are merged/override these > default USE-flags and then the result is used. You can see al USE flags in use, whether defaults or set in make.conf, with "emerge info". -- Neil Bothwick The only reason to buy a Pentium MMX is so that you can reboot faster. pgpfuUyV6UKzH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
On 3/9/06, Goran Maksimoviæ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I saw that there was a discussion about USE flags and I would seek your advice > on that matter. I recently installed once again Gentoo 2006.0 but before this > version a few months' ago I installed and for a short period of time used > Gentoo > 2005.0. At that time I had trouble with USE flags because I have never known > what is the best configuration of USE flags for my system so I would like if > someone could help me in a way that he proposes to me a list of flags that i > should have in my make.conf and that that I should exclude. My needs are that > I > have a system which is desktop oriented with KDE and not GNOME but also I will > do a little of programming and I will have a experimental web, mail, ftp, > MySQL > server because I will learn php. Graphics, games and so on aren't of interest > to > me and only thing I want is to play DVDs, DivX movies, play MP3 and audio CDs > and burn DVDs and CDs. Well, when I installed Gentoo 2006.0, I used the GRP and Dynamic Stage 3, so, couldn't set my USE flags. I don't set USE at make.conf. After the GRP install, I sync'ed, then issued a "emerge -uDNpv world" and started "emerge -pv"ing each package in the list, checking USEs and writting them to package.use. After that, each and every package installed follows the same path. This way you don't loose control over your flags and avoid useless stuff (like compiling a lot of programs with KDE support when you only need kde-base because of K3B). It's just the way I do it, any comments? (no flames please, I'll not change my mind :) -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
On 3/9/06, Daniel da Veiga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's just the way I do it, any comments? (no flames please, I'll not > change my mind :) That is pretty much what I do, except that I also take the additional step of having "-*" for USE in my make.conf to disable anything that the profile adds by default. Goran, I would say the most critical flags you want set are: alsa arts kde hal mp3 ssl truetype dvd dvdread dvdr Most other flags I would add per package. Especially I recommend not adding apache/php use flags to make.conf, but to have those for specific packages in package.use. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags
Yes, I have also installed Gentoo 2006.0 with Gentoo LiveCD and installed GRP packages which were on CD but now I want to set USE flags to avoid what you have mentioned a installation of stuff which i will not use but which are installed with packages I install. So once again I am looking for some assistance in configuring my USE flags in make.conf to needs that you can read in this mail. I would be grateful to all who help with their lists :). Bye Goran -Original Message- From: Daniel da Veiga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:30 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags On 3/9/06, Goran Maksimoviæ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I saw that there was a discussion about USE flags and I would seek your advice > on that matter. I recently installed once again Gentoo 2006.0 but before this > version a few months' ago I installed and for a short period of time used Gentoo > 2005.0. At that time I had trouble with USE flags because I have never known > what is the best configuration of USE flags for my system so I would like if > someone could help me in a way that he proposes to me a list of flags that i > should have in my make.conf and that that I should exclude. My needs are that I > have a system which is desktop oriented with KDE and not GNOME but also I will > do a little of programming and I will have a experimental web, mail, ftp, MySQL > server because I will learn php. Graphics, games and so on aren't of interest to > me and only thing I want is to play DVDs, DivX movies, play MP3 and audio CDs > and burn DVDs and CDs. Well, when I installed Gentoo 2006.0, I used the GRP and Dynamic Stage 3, so, couldn't set my USE flags. I don't set USE at make.conf. After the GRP install, I sync'ed, then issued a "emerge -uDNpv world" and started "emerge -pv"ing each package in the list, checking USEs and writting them to package.use. After that, each and every package installed follows the same path. This way you don't loose control over your flags and avoid useless stuff (like compiling a lot of programs with KDE support when you only need kde-base because of K3B). It's just the way I do it, any comments? (no flames please, I'll not change my mind :) -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ NOD32 1.1435 (20060308) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
On Thursday 09 March 2006 10:29, "Daniel da Veiga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags': > On 3/9/06, Goran Maksimoviæ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I saw that there was a discussion about USE flags and I would seek > > your advice on that matter. > > Well, when I installed Gentoo 2006.0, I used the GRP and Dynamic Stage > 3, so, couldn't set my USE flags. Well, you could, but then portage would have decided to not use (some of) the available binary packages (since they had different USE settings). > I don't set USE at make.conf. After the GRP install, I sync'ed, then > issued a "emerge -uDNpv world" and started "emerge -pv"ing each > package in the list, checking USEs and writting them to package.use. > After that, each and every package installed follows the same path. > This way you don't loose control over your flags and avoid useless > stuff (like compiling a lot of programs with KDE support when you only > need kde-base because of K3B). That's roughly the way I do it. Although, initially I started with stage1... In any case, I just do regular 'emerge -avtuND world's and make sure and read the USE flags there. Paying /particular/ attention to yellow (new) or stared (changed) use flags. Also, after any change to /etc/portage/package.use or the USE variable in make.conf, I do a emerge -avtuND world. Occasionally, I'll notice some feature I want is missing, them I emerge -pv or equery u the package to check use flags to tweak. If the use flag doesn't jump out at me, I might continue with a grep against use.desc and use.local or a emerge -pve package (in case the functionality is actually missing from a dependency). I used to be fairly religious about putting global use flags in make.conf and package-specific use flags in package.use -- I no longer do this since the gentoo developers are nice enough to rarely overlap local use flags, so I can just stick everything into a gargantuan USE variable in make.conf. It's easier that way since I manage my use flags with euse. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Eric Waguespack wrote: > say for example I installed Gentoo with some USE flags, but then I > changed my mind and wanted to add (for example) the "offensive" USE > flag to my make.conf (I have no idea what offensive does, but with a > name like that, it must be good http://gentoo-portage.com/USE ). what > would I do (short of a reinstallation) to recompile everything with > these new USE flags? > emerge -uDNpv world for a dry run. emerge -uDN world to actually recompile See man emerge for more information. Regards, Petteri Räty signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
On Tuesday 25 October 2005 00:13, Eric Waguespack wrote: > say for example I installed Gentoo with some USE flags, but then I > changed my mind and wanted to add (for example) the "offensive" USE > flag to my make.conf (I have no idea what offensive does, but with a > name like that, it must be good http://gentoo-portage.com/USE ). what > would I do (short of a reinstallation) to recompile everything with > these new USE flags? > > > Thanks. emerge -a --newuse world then 'y' when the selection showed pleases you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
On Monday 24 October 2005 06:13 pm, Eric Waguespack wrote: > what > would I do (short of a reinstallation) to recompile everything with > these new USE flags? emerge --newuse --emptytree world will rebuild everything applying the new use variable(s) to the mix. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Eric Waguespack schreef: > say for example I installed Gentoo with some USE flags, but then I > changed my mind and wanted to add (for example) the "offensive" USE > flag to my make.conf (I have no idea what offensive does, but with a > name like that, it must be good http://gentoo-portage.com/USE ). what > would I do (short of a reinstallation) to recompile everything with > these new USE flags? > > > Thanks. > emerge --newuse world (or, emerge -N world) will search through your installed files for the packages that can use that flag and recompile them with it active rather than inactive. (man emerge might be worth a look) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
emerge --newuse world -p will catch all of it. Check the Gentoo docs. On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Eric Waguespack wrote: say for example I installed Gentoo with some USE flags, but then I changed my mind and wanted to add (for example) the "offensive" USE flag to my make.conf (I have no idea what offensive does, but with a name like that, it must be good http://gentoo-portage.com/USE ). what would I do (short of a reinstallation) to recompile everything with these new USE flags? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 05:13:13PM -0500, Eric Waguespack wrote: > say for example I installed Gentoo with some USE flags, but then I > changed my mind and wanted to add (for example) the "offensive" USE > flag to my make.conf (I have no idea what offensive does, but with a > name like that, it must be good http://gentoo-portage.com/USE ). what Offensive turns on, well, possibly offensive content. For x-screensaver, one of the screensavers grabs images off the internet and make a mosaic. Turning on the offensive flag means you might get porn and/or goatse in there. For fortune, that enables the -o option, which produces insults. There might be more > would I do (short of a reinstallation) to recompile everything with > these new USE flags? Now, onto the real stuff: emerge --newuse world W -- Willie W. Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] brought to you by the Roman letter i, the Hebrew letter \aleph, the Greek letter \pi, and the non-letter \hbar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Willie Wong schreef: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 05:13:13PM -0500, Eric Waguespack wrote: > >>say for example I installed Gentoo with some USE flags, but then I >>changed my mind and wanted to add (for example) the "offensive" USE >>flag to my make.conf (I have no idea what offensive does, but with a >>name like that, it must be good http://gentoo-portage.com/USE ). what > > > Offensive turns on, well, possibly offensive content. For x-screensaver, > one of the screensavers grabs images off the internet and make a mosaic. > Turning on the offensive flag means you might get porn and/or goatse > in there. For fortune, that enables the -o option, which produces insults. > There might be more equery hasuse -p offensive [ Searching for USE flag offensive in all categories among: ] * installed packages * Portage tree (/usr/portage) [-P-] [ ] app-admin/sudo-1.6.8_p9 (0) [I--] [ ] app-admin/sudo-1.6.8_p9-r2 (0) [-P-] [M~] games-misc/fortune-mod-1.99.1-r2 (0) [-P-] [ ] games-misc/fortune-mod-1.99.1-r1 (0) [-P-] [M~] games-misc/fortune-mod-gentoo-forums-20041207 (0) [-P-] [ ] games-misc/fortune-mod-gentoo-forums-20040922 (0) [-P-] [ ] games-misc/fortune-mod-it-1.99 (0) [-P-] [ ] games-misc/fortune-mod-it-1.51 (0) [-P-] [ ] games-misc/fortune-mod-kernelcookies-8 (0) [-P-] [ ] media-sound/choad-0.822 (0) [-P-] [ ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.20 (0) [-P-] [ ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.22-r2 (0) [-P-] [ ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.22-r4 (0) [-P-] [ ] x11-themes/gentoo-artwork-0.4.1 (0) [-P-] [ ] x11-themes/windowmaker-themes-0.1 (0) I know sudo insults you if you type the wrong password, and I remember the controversy over the Windowmaker themes package (which was an unchecked compilation of previously-existing themes, some of which contained wallpaper featuring nudity-- female, of course-- which was put under the 'offensive' flag not only because it might be personally offensive, but because you might be installing Windowmaker at work, and a random wallpaper or theme change might put you out of a job without you being aware of the possibility that that could happen). The others I don't know personally, but are likely similar to one or the other of these cases as appropriate. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:24:13 -0400 (EDT), Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > emerge --newuse world -p will catch all of it. Check the Gentoo docs. No it won't. You need to add --deep and --update to catch everything: emerge --deep --update --newuse --verbose --ask world -- Neil Bothwick My Go this amn keyboar oesn't have any 's. pgpE9t87QSaFt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
I was going to pipe in about that Neil, but ya beat me to it. I like to shorten it and just type emerge -DNavu world , though.On 10/25/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:24:13 -0400 (EDT), Brett I. Holcomb wrote:> emerge --newuse world -p will catch all of it. Check the Gentoo docs. No it won't. You need to add --deep and --update to catch everything:emerge --deep --update --newuse --verbose --ask world--Neil BothwickMy Go this amn keyboar oesn't have any 's. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:55:56 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: > I was going to pipe in about that Neil, but ya beat me to it. I like to > shorten it and just type emerge -DNavu world , though. The short options make for easier typing, the long ones for easier understanding. So I use the short options at the command line but the long ones in scripts and examples. -- Neil Bothwick To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:14:43 -0500, Jeff wrote: > Just a quick one - where can I find the USE flag compendium? /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc -- Neil Bothwick Copy from another: plagiarism. Copy from many: research. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
Jeff wrote: >Hey all. > >Just a quick one - where can I find the USE flag compendium? > >Thanks! > >-Jeff > > > This taken from the make.conf file: ># The available list of use flags with descriptions is in your portage tree. ># Use 'less' to view them: --> less /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc <-- > so look in /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and have fun. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 03:14:43PM -0500, Jeff wrote: > Hey all. > > Just a quick one - where can I find the USE flag compendium? > For convenience, try emerging profuse. John pgpHjge4sSrv5.pgp Description: PGP signature
[RESOLVED] RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags
And how I hate to miss out on anything! :) Thanks, again Marco. John D -Original Message- From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:37 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags John Dangler wrote: > The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming. And many of them, I > wouldn't really know if I need them or not. So far, since I only have the > base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a > graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE="-X" with the system level apps > (although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like > cdrtools/dvdrtools). just add the ones you need -- you're not missing out on anything :) you can always add them later on when you need them > I really appreciate the feedback!!! no problem Marco -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
Anthony E. Caudel wrote: Am I correct in thinking that USE flags in /etc/portage/profiles/use.desc are global flags and should be placed in /etc/make.conf whereas those in use.local.desc are only local flags and should only be placed in /etc/portage/package.use with the appropriate package? It doesn't really matter. Where you should put them depends on how you want them to take effect. A flag that only affects one package will affect that one package regardless of whether it's in make.conf or package.use, so I prefer to put it in make.conf for clarity, especially in the --info context. On the other hand, flags that many people consider to be global (apache2, mysql, php, etc) I only enable for one or two specific packages, as needed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
On 5/31/06, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am I correct in thinking that USE flags in /etc/portage/profiles/use.desc are global flags and should be placed in /etc/make.conf whereas those in use.local.desc are only local flags and should only be placed in /etc/portage/package.use with the appropriate package? Tony To tell the truth, you can put either kind of use flag in either file. The difference is what you want to apply the flag to. If you want only a single package to have a "global" use flag set differently from the rest of the system, you put it in package.use. If you see a "local" flag that might later be used by other packages, or is used by multiple packages, you might want to put it in make.conf. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
Calvin Walton wrote: > > To tell the truth, you can put either kind of use flag in either file. > The difference is what you want to apply the flag to. > > If you want only a single package to have a "global" use flag set > differently from the rest of the system, you put it in package.use. If > you see a "local" flag that might later be used by other packages, or > is used by multiple packages, you might want to put it in make.conf. This is something I ran into a while back. For some reason the doc would not compile for hal. I wanted the docs for everything else though so putting -doc in the USE line in make.conf would remove the docs for everything, not just hal. I put this in /etc/portage/package.use: sys-apps/hal-doc That way it would not enable the doc part for hal but would leave it for everything else. You could reverse that function if you wanted to. You could disable doc for everything in make.conf then make a exception in package.use for hal, if you can get it to compile with no errors. Did that help any? Sometimes actual experience is better than theory. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
On Wed, 31 May 2006 15:15:31 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote: > This is something I ran into a while back. For some reason the doc > would not compile for hal. I wanted the docs for everything else though > so putting -doc in the USE line in make.conf would remove the docs for > everything, not just hal. The doc USE flag shouldn't affect standard documentation, such as man and info pages. According to use.desc it 'Adds extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc)'. -- Neil Bothwick Stupidity is NOT a handicap. You'll have to park elsewhere. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:15:10 -0700, Ryan Tandy wrote: > It doesn't really matter. Where you should put them depends on how you > want them to take effect. A flag that only affects one package will > affect that one package regardless of whether it's in make.conf or > package.use, so I prefer to put it in make.conf for clarity, especially > in the --info context. Local flags may be defined for more than one packages, with different meanings, whereas global flags tend to be more consistent. So it may be safer to put local flags in package.use to avoid the situation where the same flag with a different meaning is added to another package you use. -- Neil Bothwick TROI : What am I sensing?? I'm sensing INCOMPETENCE, you pretentious bald pseudo-French dickweed! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Wed, 31 May 2006 15:15:31 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote: > > > >>This is something I ran into a while back. For some reason the doc >>would not compile for hal. I wanted the docs for everything else though >>so putting -doc in the USE line in make.conf would remove the docs for >>everything, not just hal. >> >> > >The doc USE flag shouldn't affect standard documentation, such as man and >info pages. According to use.desc it 'Adds extra documentation (API, >Javadoc, etc)'. > > > > Learn something every day. So if I remove the doc USE flag that will not remove the man page? That would be cool. I wonder how much space that takes up? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
* Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Learn something every day. So if I remove the doc USE flag that will > not remove the man page? That would be cool. I wonder how much space > that takes up? hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cellphone: +49 174 7066481 - -- DSL ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- Webshops -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
Enrico Weigelt wrote: >* Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Learn something every day. So if I remove the doc USE flag that will >>not remove the man page? That would be cool. I wonder how much space >>that takes up? >> >> > >hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick >of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ? > > >cu > > That would be nice if you have more than one system. After all, you only need one set of man pages. I didn't see anything in /usr/portage/profile/use.desc. Good question though. /usr/share/man takes up almost 30MBs on my system. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
Am Freitag, 2. Juni 2006 12:41 schrieb Teresa and Dale: > Enrico Weigelt wrote: > >* Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Learn something every day. So if I remove the doc USE flag that will > >>not remove the man page? That would be cool. I wonder how much space > >>that takes up? > > > >hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick > >of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ? > > > > > >cu > > That would be nice if you have more than one system. After all, you > only need one set of man pages. I didn't see anything in > /usr/portage/profile/use.desc. Good question though. /usr/share/man > takes up almost 30MBs on my system. There is the FEATURE="noman". >From man make.conf: "noman Do not install manpages." Seems to be what you are looking for :) > Dale Hand, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: >Am Freitag, 2. Juni 2006 12:41 schrieb Teresa and Dale: > > >>Enrico Weigelt wrote: >> >> >>>* Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Learn something every day. So if I remove the doc USE flag that will not remove the man page? That would be cool. I wonder how much space that takes up? >>>hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick >>>of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ? >>> >>> >>>cu >>> >>> >>That would be nice if you have more than one system. After all, you >>only need one set of man pages. I didn't see anything in >>/usr/portage/profile/use.desc. Good question though. /usr/share/man >>takes up almost 30MBs on my system. >> >> > >There is the FEATURE="noman". > >>From man make.conf: > >"noman Do not install manpages." > >Seems to be what you are looking for :) > > > >>Dale >> >> > >Hand, >Michael > > > > Oh, I was looking in the USE options. I need to remember that when I get my servers set up again. One of them only has a 2.5GB drive and it gets full sometimes. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Learn something every day. So if I remove the doc USE flag that will not remove the man page? That would be cool. I wonder how much space that takes up? hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ? cu http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/30264 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling
140729 behrouz khosravi wrote: > I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! ^ 'conquered' (smile) : 'concur' = 'agree'. > So far so good! Yes, it's not difficult, but it's a sort of initiation test. > Before installing on my laptop and desktop, > I am trying on virtual box and the system is running Fluxbox very good. Yes, Fluxbox is less well-known than it should be : it's excellent. > Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. > What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE="-*" ) > and gradually add the needed flags to package.use? That's what I've done for years, but others will react in horror (smile). It's ok, provided you check the use flags for applications, whenever you emerge new versions : occasionally otherwise, it can hurt. > I just want to expand my knowledge! This is a very polite & friendly list with good advice available. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:34:04 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: > Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. > What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE="-*" ) and > gradually add the needed flags to package.use? You may well break your system, but you get to keep the pieces as a lesson. Portage profiles set some default USE flags, then some ebuilds also set defaults. Using USE="-*" disables all of these. You can see the defaults by looking at the output from emerge --info with no USE defined in make.conf. > I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to expand my > knowledge! You will do that, but not in the way you hoped. Pick a profile that most closely matches your usage and then find tune from that by adding or removing USE flags. That's a lot easier than deliberately breaking things and then trying to work out how to fix them. Also, when setting up a new system, make USE flag changes gradually. Unless you are sure of what you are doing, only change a few at a time. -- Neil Bothwick System halted - Press all keys at once to continue. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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> Also, when setting up a new system, make USE flag changes gradually. > Unless you are sure of what you are doing, only change a few at a time. Haha, just got frustrated with how much junk is on my machine and globally disabled perl, python, ruby, and a bunch of other stuff. Bad times ensued ;). But really, as long as you're fine with looking at failed builds to see what went wrong, you should be fine. You can set PORT_LOGDIR in make.conf to send all build logs into a location (mine is /var/log/portage) so that all logs get saved automatically, which I find helpful. Alec
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 140729 behrouz khosravi wrote: > ^ 'conquered' (smile) : 'concur' = 'agree'. Sorry. Now it is obvious English is not my mother tongue! regards.
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:34:04PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote
> Hello everyone.
> I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo!
> So far so good!
> Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box
> and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile)
> Now I am thinking about managing USE flags.
> What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE="-*" ) and
> gradually add the needed flags to package.use?
> I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to expand my knowledge!
> thanks.
Here is a compromise. I started with USE="-*" and then gradually
added stuff that was needed by most items. My rule-of-thumb is...
If adding a flag to USE reduces the number of entries in package.use,
then I add it. I.e. if...
* not having flag "foobar" in USE requires 6 entries in package.use, and
* having flag "foobar" in USE requires only 2 "-" entries in package.use
...then I move flag "foobar" into USE and put a few "-" entries in
package.use. I do want stuff like "ncurses nptl nptlonly posix readline
threads" for every app which can use it. Similarly, cpu-specific flags
should be in your USE. This effectively gives you a very customized
profile. By the way, you can make your own variables in make.conf, and
concatenate them, like in bash. In my make.conf I have...
USE_BASE="-* a52 aac bzip2 cxx fortran ncurses netifrc nptl nptlonly nsplugin
offensive openssl posix readline ssl threads vim-syntax zlib"
USE_CPU="mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 ssse3"
USE_VIDEO="X dga dri exif ffmpeg flac classic gif intel jpeg mng mp3 mpeg ogg
opengl png rtmp theora tiff truetype vorbis xcomposite webm x264 xpm xv xvid
xvmc"
USE="${USE_BASE} ${USE_CPU} ${USE_VIDEO}"
I can mostly copy this to another machine. ***WARNING*** the flags in
USE_CPU are specific to, and have to be customized for, each machine.
My Dell Dimension 530 dates back to June 2008. Newer Intel machines
will have additional cpu-specific flags, and AMD cpus will have their
own unique additional flags. Your set of flags may be different,
depending on what applications you use, and what you want to do with the
machine.
--
Walter Dnes
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
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> Portage profiles set some default USE flags, then some ebuilds also set > defaults. Using USE="-*" disables all of these. You can see the defaults I have noticed that some packages have flags that I have not set, but I though that they were the default flags for that package. You mean those flags will become persistence? Will be them written to a specific file? > You will do that, but not in the way you hoped. Pick a profile that most > closely matches your usage and then find tune from that by adding or > removing USE flags. That's a lot easier than deliberately breaking things > and then trying to work out how to fix them. I guess your way is better. I think it will be a good idea to stick to the base profile, and define the required flags as locale flags.
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Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2014, 19:04:04 schrieb behrouz khosravi: > > Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. > What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE="-*" ) and > gradually add the needed flags to package.use? The default profile is what you need. Please don't do USE="-*". It breaks things. * Long ago, setting a useflag always meant "adding things to the default". For some years now, we have use-defaults, which means an ebuild can set whether a use flag set not by profile and not by user is on or off. If you add "-*" to your use flags, you turn all default-on useflags off too (which means you may switch away from upstream defaults a lot). An example where this may lead to trouble: you end up with sys-devel/gcc[- cxx], i.e. a compiler that cannot translate C++. * The dependencies on specific Python or Ruby versions are controlled via useflags. Basically, if Python package X needs Python package Y, both have to be installed for the same Python variant for things to work. If you disable all useflags via "-*", you basically disable support for all variants. Bang. * Similar for multilib installations. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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On 29/07/2014 22:16, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:34:04PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote >> Hello everyone. >> I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! >> So far so good! >> Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box >> and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile) >> Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. >> What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE="-*" ) and >> gradually add the needed flags to package.use? >> I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to expand my knowledge! >> thanks. > > Here is a compromise. I started with USE="-*" Here's very good advice for the OP: Do not do this. Walter does it, and he finds it works for him. He's been doing it for years and nothing will persuade him to do it any other way. You should not do with USE what Walter does. Trust me, it will lead you down a path of immense pain that you do not have the tools to get out of, and when you ask here for help you will be told to take that -* out of USE. No offense Walter, but this is really bad advice to give someone brand new to Gentoo. He really is ill-equipped to deal with it, and USE="-*" is best left to those who fully understand exactly what they are getting themselves into. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
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140730 behrouz khosravi wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Philip Webb wrote: >> 140729 behrouz khosravi wrote: >> ^ 'conquered' (smile) : 'concur' = 'agree'. > Sorry. No need at all ! -- You said you wanted to learn (at the end) ! > Now it is obvious English is not my mother tongue! I suspect that may be true of a majority of Gentooers : we're all used to interpreting others' words & trying to be careful to be clear when we do know English well. >From the discussion so far today, you sound like a born Gentoo user. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> In my make.conf I have...
> USE_BASE="-* a52 aac bzip2 cxx fortran ncurses netifrc nptl nptlonly nsplugin
> offensive openssl posix readline ssl threads vim-syntax zlib"
> USE_CPU="mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 ssse3"
> USE_VIDEO="X dga dri exif ffmpeg flac classic gif intel jpeg mng mp3 mpeg ogg
> opengl png rtmp theora tiff truetype vorbis xcomposite webm x264 xpm xv xvid
> xvmc"
> USE="${USE_BASE} ${USE_CPU} ${USE_VIDEO}"
The way that you have managed the USE flag is neat, and I will do the same.
Thanks for your help.
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > I suspect that may be true of a majority of Gentooers : > we're all used to interpreting others' words > & trying to be careful to be clear when we do know English well. I will be very happy to be a part of this great community. > From the discussion so far today, you sound like a born Gentoo user. Thank you very much. You just made my day! Have a great time.
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Thank you all. I have concluded that I should stay with the base profile. Although I need a desktop, but this decision will be closest to what I want in a harmless way! (at least less harm!) Then I will add CPU specific and very frequent flags to make.conf and gradually extend the package.use file.
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Philip Webb wrote: > 140730 behrouz khosravi wrote: > >> Now it is obvious English is not my mother tongue! > I suspect that may be true of a majority of Gentooers : > we're all used to interpreting others' words > & trying to be careful to be clear when we do know English well. > > English is the only language I know and even I mess it up at times. So, we all have to read between the lines at times. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
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On Wednesday 30 July 2014 05:37:08 Dale wrote: > English is the only language I know and even I mess it up at times. Yes, but then you are American ;) -- Regards Peter
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Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 30 July 2014 05:37:08 Dale wrote: > >> English is the only language I know and even I mess it up at times. > Yes, but then you are American ;) > True but sometimes, I suck at it. For the record, I am bad to leave the word "not" or "n't" out. Talk about a monumental change in meaning. ROFL Imagine talking about the command rm and leaving that out. o_O Still, I think we do our best when someone posts and English is not their first language. I know it is hard sometimes for people to post and get it right but still, we all try. Dale :-) :-)
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Am 29.07.2014 19:04, schrieb behrouz khosravi: > Hello everyone. > I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! > So far so good! > Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box > and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile) > Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. > What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE="-*" ) and > gradually add the needed flags to package.use? you will break you system. > I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to expand my knowledge! > thanks. > then don't do stupid things like USE=-*
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On 30/07/2014 19:57, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 29.07.2014 19:04, schrieb behrouz khosravi: >> Hello everyone. >> I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! >> So far so good! >> Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box >> and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile) >> Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. >> What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE="-*" ) and >> gradually add the needed flags to package.use? > you will break you system. Volker is correct. The reason you will break your system is that you do not have enough knowledge to know what to put back, and you don't know how to read the error messages and know what they mean. Here's what portage does NOT do: Tell you that flag x is missing and this will cause issues a, b and c, then give you exact instructions how to make it better. Here's what portage DOES do: Give you some weird error message with the word "backtrack" in it, or messages like "no parents that could not be satisfied by other packages in slot" or something about blockers in flashing red blink text, or it might even just say nothing giving the impression everything succeeded. And then your computer explodes. Still wanna try USE="-*" ? > >> I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to expand my knowledge! >> thanks. >> > then don't do stupid things like USE=-* > > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:34:04PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: > Hello everyone. > […] > Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. > […] > I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to expand my knowledge! > thanks. In such cases I tend to suggest installing ufed. 'tis a UI for setting use flags. Not only does it show you the description of every flag and whether it's local (used by only one or a few programs). It also shows you if it is enabled (+ sign), disabled (- sign) or not touched (empty) and whether that setting comes from the profile (parens) or your own setup (brackets). -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook service. “If my wife doesn’t hear it, am I still wrong?” – Philosoraptor signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > In such cases I tend to suggest installing ufed... Seems really handy. Thanks.
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On Sat, 2 August 2014, at 2:35 pm, J. Roeleveld wrote: > ... > Do you still have the bug numbers for this? > I have a few machines without any sound support. If I can remove the entire > sound system from it, it would save time during the updates. Please, Joost, I beg you, stop posting in HTML. Also your email is broken, I already asked you this yesterday off-list - since you neither complied then, nor told me to naff off, I assume that you're dropping messages. Stroller.
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On Saturday 02 August 2014 16:13:19 Stroller wrote: > On Sat, 2 August 2014, at 2:35 pm, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > ... > > Do you still have the bug numbers for this? > > I have a few machines without any sound support. If I can remove the > > entire sound system from it, it would save time during the updates. > Please, Joost, I beg you, stop posting in HTML. > > Also your email is broken, I already asked you this yesterday off-list - > since you neither complied then, nor told me to naff off, I assume that > you're dropping messages. Actually, I wasn't ignoring you. It just took some time to find the actual cause. In the settings for KMail, I had the tick-boxes mentioning HTML off already. Took me till this morning to notice that in the edit-window, "Rich Text" was selected. (It acts like a button that is pushed in) If anyone can tell me how to configure that to *always* default to *off*, instead of remembering the last setting, that would help. -- Joost
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140803 Joost Roeleveld wrote: > In the settings for KMail, I had the tick-boxes mentioning HTML off already. > Took me till this morning to notice that in the edit-window, > "Rich Text" was selected. (It acts like a button that is pushed in) > If anyone can tell me how to configure that to *always* default to *off*, > instead of remembering the last setting, that would help. Have you tried Mutt (smile) ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
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On Sun, 3 August 2014, at 7:49 am, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > ... > Actually, I wasn't ignoring you. It just took some time to find the actual > cause. My apologies, Joost. It was driving me crazy. Stroller.
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On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 08:49 +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > If anyone can tell me how to configure that to *always* default to *off*, > instead of remembering the last setting, that would help. It's been a while since I used kmail (i always had "issues" and ended up reverting to thunderbird) but i'm pretty certain that the composer options allow you to disable rich-text for messages (or, conversely, enable plain-text-only). it's there somewhere, just dig ;) -- wraeth
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On Sun, 3 August 2014, at 9:17 am, Walter Dnes wrote: >> … KDE actually specifies how to build without any multimedia (audio and >> video) >> support: >> >> https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/CMake#Command_Line_Variables >> >> cmake command line variable: >> KDE4_DISABLE_MULTIMEDIA=ON: Build KDE without any multimedia (audio and >> video) > The big question... what is "multimedia"? Would it be possible to > build kde with image support (gif/png/jpeg/tiff/pdf/etc) without > building in audio and video? I.e. how integrated is kde's graphics > and multimedia? From a quick google for "KDE4_DISABLE_MULTIMEDIA" it looks like that just enables / disables Phonon: • http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-buildsystem/2010-March/006806.html • http://www.filewatcher.com/p/kdebase-runtime-4.1.3.tar.bz2.52251161/kdebase-runtime-4.1.3/phonon/CMakeLists.txt.html I have to confess, I don't follow desktop development to know myself what "Phonon" means. The page linked to in the package description for media-libs/phonon is, unsurprisingly, uninformative: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon Stroller.
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wraeth wrote: > On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 08:49 +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> If anyone can tell me how to configure that to *always* default to *off*, >> instead of remembering the last setting, that would help. > It's been a while since I used kmail (i always had "issues" and ended up > reverting to thunderbird) but i'm pretty certain that the composer > options allow you to disable rich-text for messages (or, conversely, > enable plain-text-only). > > it's there somewhere, just dig ;) > I used to use Kmail but switched to Seamonkey. Don't start. I might bite. :-) I did some googling and found where some others were complaining about this setting not sticking. It seems this is not a new issue. One bug dated all the way back to KDE3 stuff. I found another that was KDE4 which claims it was fixed, heard that before. lol So, maybe some bug got thrown back in? If after the next update it does the same, I throw up a can of Raid. Uh, over at KDE tho. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 04:39:45 +0100, Stroller wrote: > I have to confess, I don't follow desktop development to know myself > what "Phonon" means. > > The page linked to in the package description for media-libs/phonon is, > unsurprisingly, uninformative: > https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon_(software) -- Neil Bothwick A bit of tolerance is worth a megabyte of flaming. -- Henry Spencer signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:26:59 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I have to confess, I don't follow desktop development to know myself > > what "Phonon" means. > > > > The page linked to in the package description for media-libs/phonon > > is, unsurprisingly, uninformative: > > https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon_(software) Or follow the links in the kde.org page and after four or so clicks you end up with the information you expected to find in the first place https://userbase.kde.org/Phonon -- Neil Bothwick IBM - Incredibly Bastardized Multitasking... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On 29/07/14 18:04, behrouz khosravi wrote: > Hello everyone. > I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! > So far so good! > Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box > and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile) > Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. > What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE="-*" ) and > gradually add the needed flags to package.use? > I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to expand my knowledge! > thanks. > late to the conversation but no one else has mentioned, you might want to take advantage of the newer way of doing use flags. i.e. do not put them all in /etc/portage/make.conf take advantage of the /etc/portage/package.use/ (you might need to mkdir this) in there you can put a single file per package requirements. i.e. you try to emerge etherape, and it tells you that libgnomecanvas requires use of glade so cat the requirement into a file named by what requires it $ cat /etc/portage/package.use/etherape >=gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.30.3 glade this also works for package.keywords etc this means that you can more easily keep track of which use flags are for which programs: $ ls /etc/portage/package.use/ chromium efl freemindteamviewer transmission compiz etherape gvfsterminator vinagre darktable filemangler networkmanager thunar virtualbox dvdrip firefox stellarium thunderbird wpa_supplicant hth
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:51 AM, thegeezer wrote: > late to the conversation but no one else has mentioned, ... Sounds neat, Thanks for the advise.
Re: [gentoo-user] USE-flags description?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/01/2015 05:36 PM, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > > where can I find description of *all* USE flags? I checked > /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and use.local.desc but still I can > not find some... > > cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86 suggested my CPU_FLAGS_X86 should be: "aes avx > mmx mmxext popcnt sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3" > > But I'd like to know what they means, but I could not find any > description for "aes" and "popcnt"... > > Jarry > try /usr/portage/desc/cpu_flags_x86.desc - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJUzmglXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRGRDlGMzA4MUI2MzBDODQ4RDBGOEYxMjQx RjEwRUQ0QjgxREVCRjE5AAoJEB8Q7UuB3r8ZBcUH/RtFmb2/HEx8tnaI68RQdiaw arIHkUFmdiB0aIBm4bXFhVDEmuXXxuC+nK8jbRXPwbb9sBVKX44yRhmuZMqf5rMy i3kJbV2BciXvkpjEts5akzoJ4dYqoogu0ez4X4kdekZcMgT727OEb8fMXPaKj23i hRYZv90QrXeCKjGukRDdgxQx7Z4rEoHz+8F4BWIGv6SzqXDNYewNZys/CoyK35Tm bxOUxAXnX+RHPXl6obcNopR/0x3YwCg4yHvsRe0Wsa6hKuih+DasS2CosS+1UW1A oPO6h6Llacl7GyduI4a1so20Je9YN+G//OSvOtnV2Yrz8YCFLWO1K2p7fXzpqGU= =8lWs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] USE-flags description?
On 01-Feb-15 18:53, Markos Chandras wrote: where can I find description of *all* USE flags? I checked /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and use.local.desc but still I can not find some... try /usr/portage/desc/cpu_flags_x86.desc You probably mean /usr/portage/profiles/desc/cpu_flags_x86.desc Thanks, I did not know about that "desc" sub-dir at all... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] USE-flags description?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > > where can I find description of *all* USE flags? I checked > /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and use.local.desc but still > I can not find some... > > cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86 suggested my CPU_FLAGS_X86 should be: > "aes avx mmx mmxext popcnt sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3" > > But I'd like to know what they means, but I could not find > any description for "aes" and "popcnt"... > > Jarry > > -- > ___ > This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! > Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted. > > quse -D aes popcnt local:aes:app-crypt/shishi: Enable AES encryption/checksum types. local:popcnt:dev-libs/marisa: Enable popcnt instruction support cpu_flags_x86.desc:aes: Enable support for Intel's AES instruction set (AES-NI) cpu_flags_x86.desc:popcnt: Enable popcnt instruction support ([abm] or [popcnt] in cpuinfo)
Re: [gentoo-user] USE-flags description?
On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 06:36:29PM +0100, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > > where can I find description of *all* USE flags? I checked > /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and use.local.desc but still > I can not find some... > […] > But I'd like to know what they means, but I could not find > any description for "aes" and "popcnt"... A bit late, but still valid: I use ufed (use flag editor) for anything that useflaggy that requires more than a simple lookup. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. The number you have dialled is imaginary. Please rotate your phone by 90 degrees and try again. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags (once more)
John Dangler wrote: If I add a USE="whatever" to my make.conf file, does that get added to the flags already in the default profile, Yes that's right. Also if you put USE="-whatever" it removes the flag emerge info shows what USE flags are set -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags (once more)
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 02:00:27AM -0400, John Dangler wrote: > If I add a USE="whatever" to my make.conf file, does that get added to the > flags already in the default profile, or does make.conf override what's in > the defaults file? > yes, it is cascading. And your make.conf is read last. Which means whatever in the defaults will hold unless your make.conf gives a different one... personally the useflags has gotten too many for me to keep track of, so I often use profuse [02:44 AM]wwong UniConv $ emerge search profuse Searching... [ Results for search key : profuse ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * app-portage/profuse Latest version available: 0.23.0 Latest version installed: 0.23.0 Size of downloaded files: 19 kB Homepage:http://libconf.net/profuse/ Description: use flags editor, with good features and 3 GUIs (dialog, ncurses and gtk2). License: GPL-2 HTH, W -- "This is advertised as a challenging course, and we would be letting you down if we didn't make you're lives difficult." ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 8 days, 9:58 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags (once more)
On Saturday 20 August 2005 15:59, Willie Wong wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 02:00:27AM -0400, John Dangler wrote: > > If I add a USE="whatever" to my make.conf file, does that get added to > > the flags already in the default profile, or does make.conf override > > what's in the defaults file? > > yes, it is cascading. And your make.conf is read last. Which means > whatever in the defaults will hold unless your make.conf gives a > different one... Except for the environment, which is processed after make.conf. -- Jason Stubbs pgpLHBpnWzMdu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags (once more)
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:24:29 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > yes, it is cascading. And your make.conf is read last. Which means > > whatever in the defaults will hold unless your make.conf gives a > > different one... > > Except for the environment, which is processed after make.conf. And /etc/portage/package.use, which is processed between the two? -- Neil Bothwick I've got a mind like a... a... what's that thing called? pgpXkcfm7ckwI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags (once more)
On Saturday 20 August 2005 19:31, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:24:29 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > yes, it is cascading. And your make.conf is read last. Which means > > > whatever in the defaults will hold unless your make.conf gives a > > > different one... > > > > Except for the environment, which is processed after make.conf. > > And /etc/portage/package.use, which is processed between the two? Yep. make.globals, make.defaults, use.defaults, make.conf, package.use, env. -- Jason Stubbs pgpXDuzRlgMUs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags (once more)
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:24:29 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: yes, it is cascading. And your make.conf is read last. Which means whatever in the defaults will hold unless your make.conf gives a different one... Except for the environment, which is processed after make.conf. And /etc/portage/package.use, which is processed between the two? Hi, /etc/portage/package.use is processed last. Because you set package-specific flags in there. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags (once more)
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:08:52 +0200, Roman v. Gemmeren wrote: > > And /etc/portage/package.use, which is processed between the two? > /etc/portage/package.use is processed last. Because you set > package-specific flags in there. Command line/environment settings override everything, including package.use. -- Neil Bothwick I believe I will take this opportunity to remove my ears. pgpF3TXPQsAZd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags, mplayer, lame
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If down the road I realize that I've left out use flag for mplayer would I > have to recompile mplayer? Yes, of course. > I could make /etc/packages/portage.use something like: > > 'media-sound/lame-3.96.1' > > along with the other flags, and then mplayer would have lame et. al. as > plug-in's, yes? No. In portage.use, you'd write (for example): media-video/mplayer musepack And then mplayer will be compiled with musepack support. If the necessary libraries/files for musepack are not yet present, they'll be installed automatically. "emerge -vpt mplayer" will clearly show that. > Or, do I have that wrong? Automagically mplayer will see > 'media-sound/lame-3.96.1' and incorporate lame into mplayer? If a package requires a different package, that different package is automatically pulled. > Or, is lame > installed seperately? Maybe. I don't know. > But, I don't seem to have xmms installed, while I do have totem, so, I'm > not totally understanding the significance of the above list. Hm? I don't understand that. USE flags set options. So, if a package has support for xmms, USE=xmms will make the package use xmms; ie. it'll be compiled with appropriate flags. Alexander Skwar -- You can never do just one thing. -- Hardin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags, mplayer, lame
On 22/03/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I think about this more, it seems that, for example, I might just > install lame directly with portage. In that case, it'd be up to mplayer > to recognize lame's presence, yes? However, with the use flags, mplayer > is compiled with lame? > > However, if another application is *also* installed with lame as a use > flag, that'd be redundant. Or, not? They would both recursively install > lame, with lame known to both mplayer and the second app? Lame would only be emerged one time. Use flags determine one or both of two things: 1) which packages and of what versions should be present on the system to support the desired new/updated package, and 2) what options (make config, I think) should be used when compiling those packages. You are concentrating on number one, above. For example, emerging PHP with the "cgi" use flag creates the PHP CGI binary, while the "apache2" flag will create the (forget the correct name) in-process library for Apache2. Similarly, if MySQL is aleady installed, but the "-mysql" flag is used, the PHP libraries for communicating with MySQL will not be created. Having done that, subsequently emerging phpmysql will not re-emerge Apache OR PHP, even though they are both requirements. However, I don't know what would actually happen, since the scenario above would have you with PHP on your system but without its being able to access MySQL... Best, Mickey Mullin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags, mplayer, lame
Mickey Mullin wrote: > Having done that, subsequently emerging phpmysql will not re-emerge > Apache OR PHP, even though they are both requirements. However, I > don't know what would actually happen, since the scenario above would > have you with PHP on your system but without its being able to access > MySQL... phpmysql checks if php is compiled with "approporiate" flags - ie. it requires that PHP is compiled with USE=mysql or USE=mysqli or both. Alexander Skwar -- Economies of scale: The notion that bigger is better. In particular, that if you want a certain amount of computer power, it is much better to buy one biggie than a bunch of smallies. Accepted as an article of faith by people who love big machines and all that complexity. Rejected as an article of faith by those who love small machines and all those limitations. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags, mplayer, lame
Alexander Skwar wrote: > Mickey Mullin wrote: > >> Having done that, subsequently emerging phpmysql will not re-emerge >> Apache OR PHP, even though they are both requirements. However, I >> don't know what would actually happen, since the scenario above would >> have you with PHP on your system but without its being able to access >> MySQL... > > phpmysql I assume that you were talking about phpmyadmin. Alexander Skwar -- The best way to avoid responsibility is to say, "I've got responsibilities." -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] use flags, mplayer, lame
On 22/03/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mickey Mullin wrote: > > Having done that, subsequently emerging phpmysql will not re-emerge > > Apache OR PHP, even though they are both requirements. However, I > > don't know what would actually happen, since the scenario above would > > have you with PHP on your system but without its being able to access > > MySQL... > > phpmysql checks if php is compiled with "approporiate" > flags - ie. it requires that PHP is compiled with USE=mysql > or USE=mysqli or both. Ah, thanks. I figured that was the case, but unlike my other guesses, that could have actually steered someone wrong if I was, in fact, incorrect. mwm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
