Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing with new kernel
Am Montag, 21. September 2009 schrieb James: When I boot a newer kernel, either kernel-2.6.29-gentoo-r5 or kernel-2.6.30-gentoo-r4 my kde [4] menu bar across the bottom of the screen is gone. I still get a few kconsole sessions that always start upon booting up, but all of the other kde tools seem to be missing or hidden. I've had a similar issue when switching logins between KDE 4 and 3 regularly - The menu went missing in 3 from time to time. As solution I was told to run kbuildsycoca. In your case (for KDE4) you need to run kbuildsycoca4. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. (R. Heinlein) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing with new kernel
On Montag 21 September 2009, James wrote: any ideas? maybe you forgot CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y ? but you should really start with a diff of the configs.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
I also had a problem with the KDE menu missing after the upgrade to 3.5.10 I've investigated starting from the message form kbuildsycoca and found a solution to get the KDE menu to be build. I found that in ~/.config/menus/ nothing was there as expected by kbuildsyscoca So I did: Copy /usr/kde/3.5/etc/xdg/menus/ content to ~/.config/menus/ Run from a terminal : kbuildsycoca --noincremental I'm not sure it's the real problem but at least it fixed the problem even after a reboot. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/KDE-menu-missing-tp23923988p24020642.html Sent from the gentoo-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
090614 Tal2baro wrote: I also had a problem with the KDE menu missing after the upgrade to 3.5.10 I've investigated starting from the message from kbuildsycoca found there was nothing in ~/.config/menus/ expected by kbuildsyscoca So I copied /usr/kde/3.5/etc/xdg/menus/ content to ~/.config/menus/ ran 'kbuildsycoca --noincremental' at least it fixed the problem even after a reboot. Thanks ! -- I did the same: the Krusader 'open with' has been restored it survived a reboot ! There mb some obscure bug remaining, but if it works, don't fiddle with it ! -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
(11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
(12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
(13) reboot restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in ~/.xinitrc :
Krusader 'open with' ok !
So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop.
It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this.
Mick mb doing things a bit differently his problem mb elsewhere.
I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox, but
my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now. I do not have kdeinit in the
fluxbox startup file. Once I have booted up I will typically run {kgpg
kmail} to check my mail and occasionally launch konqueror with {kfmclient
openProfile webbrowsing}. By that stage kdeinit will be running (when things
are normal):
6973 ?S 0:00 kgpg
6976 ?Ss 0:00 kdeinit Running...
6982 ?S 0:00 \_ klauncher [kdeinit] --new-startup
7030 ?S 0:01 \_ kio_imap4 [kdeinit] imap /tmp/ksocket-michael/
20306 ?S 0:00 \_ kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-michael/k
21164 ?S 0:00 \_ kio_smtp [kdeinit] smtp /tmp/ksocket-michael/k
6980 ?S 0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid --suicide
6984 ?S 0:01 kded [kdeinit] --new-startup
6986 ?S 0:00 /usr/libexec/gam_server
7018 ?Sl 0:29 kmail
20414 ?S 0:00 \_ aspell -a -S -B -Tutf8 --encoding=utf-8
When the 'lost menus' problem is there kfmclient will not run and konqueror
will fail to launch. Last time the menus were gone I realised that this was
the case when I clicked on a link to open an attachment from within kmail -
the save as/open with popup was void of any applications. Unfortunately, I
did not check at that time if kdeinit was running, but I would assume that it
was otherwise would kde applications be able to run?
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
On Saturday 13 June 2009 11:33:56 Mick wrote:
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
(11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
(12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
(13) reboot restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in ~/.xinitrc :
Krusader 'open with' ok !
So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop.
It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this.
Mick mb doing things a bit differently his problem mb elsewhere.
I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox,
but my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now. I do not have kdeinit in
the fluxbox startup file. Once I have booted up I will typically run {kgpg
kmail} to check my mail and occasionally launch konqueror with
{kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}. By that stage kdeinit will be running
(when things are normal):
On the odd occasion when I run e17 these days, I run kcminit as step 1 after
logging in.
I have no idea how this actually works, but it fixes odd errors like fonts,
themes and IIRC once a weird menu problem (the details I forget).
Worth a try.
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Saturday 13 June 2009 11:33:56 Mick wrote:
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
(11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
(12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
(13) reboot restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in ~/.xinitrc :
Krusader 'open with' ok !
So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE
desktop. It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm
this. Mick mb doing things a bit differently his problem mb
elsewhere.
I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox,
but my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now. I do not have kdeinit in
the fluxbox startup file. Once I have booted up I will typically run
{kgpg kmail} to check my mail and occasionally launch konqueror with
{kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}. By that stage kdeinit will be
running (when things are normal):
On the odd occasion when I run e17 these days, I run kcminit as step 1
after logging in.
I have no idea how this actually works, but it fixes odd errors like fonts,
themes and IIRC once a weird menu problem (the details I forget).
Worth a try.
Thanks Alan, I will remember to try this next time the menus go sideways for
me.
I can't recall if I mentioned it that running kbuildsycoca --noincremental
only produced a result when I was logged in KDE/kdm *and* ran the command in
konsole, but not in aterm ...
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
090613 Mick wrote: On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote: Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least: (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit; (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ; (13) reboot restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in ~/.xinitrc : Krusader 'open with' ok ! So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop. It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this. Mick mb doing things a bit differently his problem mb elsewhere. I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox, but my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now. I do not have kdeinit in the fluxbox startup file. That means your problem is/was something else. After a long sleep, I restarted the machine Krusader's 'open with' is ok. It looks as if the problem here is that if 'kdeinit' is started without an existing desktop to relate to, some connection is not made. As it makes no noticeable difference to start-up times, I can easily do without having 'kdeinit ' in ~/.xinitrc . -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
090613 Philip Webb wrote: It looks as if the problem here is that if 'kdeinit' is started without an existing desktop to relate to, some connection is not made. I've investigated further can't find which file Krusader uses to remember its file associations. However, I did find the changelog for 'kdelibs-3.5.10-r2', which says move kdeglobals to kdelibs for non-KDE users using KDE apps, which looks like the crucial change. Even so, there's nothing relevant in ~/.kde3.5/share/config/kdeglobals . -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
On Thursday 11 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote: 090611 Philip Webb wrote: You can test this by restoring the settings in KDE, then without rebooting check they're there in Fluxbox, then reboot see what has happened, presumably they wb lost again. Actually, there are 2 possibilities, at user login at reboot, so both need checking separately. I've rebooted twice with same kernel (gentoo-2.6.29-r5) and the settings seem to have stuck. Not sure what I've done differently before to cause the settings to be lost. Its worth mentioning that I have experienced a few kernel oops with this kernel and xorg, which I have not yet resolved and I am not sure if an ungraceful shutdown might have contributed to the kde settings being lost. Will keep an eye on it. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
090612 Mick wrote: I've rebooted twice with same kernel (gentoo-2.6.29-r5) and the settings seem to have stuck. Not sure what I've done differently before to cause the settings to be lost. No changes of kernel here (same as yours). I've experimented with the same experience as you : (1) (with damaged Krusader 'open with' in Fluxbox): restart in KDE: won't start KDE Control Centre; restore 'open with' via Krusader: ok; (2) restart KDE: ok; (3) restart FB: Krusader 'open with' ok, incl use of Kview for JPG, which I didn't tell it to do under (1) ! (4) restart KDE: ok; (5) logout user, login, restart KDE: ok, restart FB: ok; (6) reboot, restart KDE: ok ! (7) restart FB: Krusader 'open with' ok ! So it's not something happening in the login or boot processes as such. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
Further steps reveal something re the problem: (8) reboot: restart KDE: ok; (9) restart FB: Krusader 'open with' ok (yes, these repeat steps 6-7 in the previous msg); (10) reboot: restart FB : try Krusader: Cannot talk to klauncher ! (click to close msg box) when Krusader starts, 'open with' fails ! So something is being started by the KDE desktop which persists for FB, but if I start FB straight after rebooting, it doesn't get started there's a failure of communication somewhere which affects Krusader. Does anyone have any suggestions ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least: (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit; (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ; (13) reboot restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in ~/.xinitrc : Krusader 'open with' ok ! So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop. It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this. Mick mb doing things a bit differently his problem mb elsewhere. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved
2009/6/9 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: 2009/6/9 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: 2009/6/9 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net: After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there. I swapped to my KDE version of ~/.xinitrc then did 'startx' yes the desktop menus the panel menu had vanished. Then I started Krusader, got the 'open with' box for a text file told it to open the file with Leafpad: it did some updating obeyed. After that, the other default 'open with' apps worked as before the KDE menus had been restored. To get Apwal back with L-mouse I had to use the KDE Control Centre 'desktop behaviour' re-apply it. So everything is back to normal Krusader behaves properly on Fluxbox too. Thanks Phillip. Did you get any apps in the 'Open With' menu list? Mine is empty. To get any application to open a file I have to type it manually (or choose one from the cached drop down entries in the Open With panel). I ran kate %U, but nothing much happened. :( Will try to repeat all this in a KDE session just in case. Meanwhile, what does your /home/user/.config/menus/applications.menu look like. Mine is empty and comes up with the error shown below: $ kbuildsycoca --menutest Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP. kbuildsycoca running... kbuildsycoca running... Reusing existing ksycoca kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Parse error in /home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, line 1, col 1: unexpected end of file Fixed it! I had to delete /home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, then change my setup to login using kdm/KDE instead xdm/fluxbox and this time kbuildsycoca worked. Phew! All my menus are back, Kleopatra works fine, and kcontrol has a list on the LH side. Getting back to fluxbox works as normal again. Thanks for the pointer! :) It seems that the elog message was implying that one must be using KDE as a DE rather than individual applications. Blast! I spoke too soon. This morning same story ... Menus are not present and running $ kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing kbuildsycoca running... kfmclient: ERROR: Couldn't start konqueror from konqueror.desktop: Could not find service 'konqueror.desktop'. brings up the same error. :( There must be a more intelligent fix to this than me booting into KDE every time I want to use a KDE application ? What's up with your KDE menu Phillip? Were you able to make the changes stick? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
090611 Mick wrote: I spoke too soon. This morning same story ... Menus are not present and running There must be a more intelligent fix to this than me booting into KDE every time I want to use a KDE application ? What's up with your KDE menu Philip? Were you able to make the changes stick? I checked Krusader on Fluxbox no the changes haven't stuck ! At least we're tracking the beast down, but haven't cornered it yet. Something must be getting changed when we reboot. You can test this by restoring the settings in KDE, then without rebooting check they're there in Fluxbox, then reboot see what has happened, presumably they wb lost again. After that has been confirmed, we can look into the cause more closely. Anyone else have suggestions ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !
090611 Philip Webb wrote: You can test this by restoring the settings in KDE, then without rebooting check they're there in Fluxbox, then reboot see what has happened, presumably they wb lost again. Actually, there are 2 possibilities, at user login at reboot, so both need checking separately. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved
090608 Philip Webb wrote: 090608 Mick wrote: I seem to have installed kde-base/mimelib, I guess as dependency: eix kde-base/mimelib Installed versions: 3.5.10(3.5)(20:11:53 06/07/09)(-debug -elibc_FreeBSD) I also tried changing fluxbox for kdm (in case this is a fluxbox WM issue) and restarted X with kdm. Ran kbuildsycoca, but same error again. I always 'startx' from a raw terminal. I recompiled kcminit kfind kpersonalizer kreadconfig rebooted, but there is no change in Krusader's behaviour. After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there. I swapped to my KDE version of ~/.xinitrc then did 'startx' yes the desktop menus the panel menu had vanished. Then I started Krusader, got the 'open with' box for a text file told it to open the file with Leafpad: it did some updating obeyed. After that, the other default 'open with' apps worked as before the KDE menus had been restored. To get Apwal back with L-mouse I had to use the KDE Control Centre 'desktop behaviour' re-apply it. So everything is back to normal Krusader behaves properly on Fluxbox too. HTH anyone else. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved
2009/6/9 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net: After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there. I swapped to my KDE version of ~/.xinitrc then did 'startx' yes the desktop menus the panel menu had vanished. Then I started Krusader, got the 'open with' box for a text file told it to open the file with Leafpad: it did some updating obeyed. After that, the other default 'open with' apps worked as before the KDE menus had been restored. To get Apwal back with L-mouse I had to use the KDE Control Centre 'desktop behaviour' re-apply it. So everything is back to normal Krusader behaves properly on Fluxbox too. Thanks Phillip. Did you get any apps in the 'Open With' menu list? Mine is empty. To get any application to open a file I have to type it manually (or choose one from the cached drop down entries in the Open With panel). I ran kate %U, but nothing much happened. :( Will try to repeat all this in a KDE session just in case. Meanwhile, what does your /home/user/.config/menus/applications.menu look like. Mine is empty and comes up with the error shown below: $ kbuildsycoca --menutest Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP. kbuildsycoca running... kbuildsycoca running... Reusing existing ksycoca kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Parse error in /home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, line 1, col 1: unexpected end of file -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved
2009/6/9 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: 2009/6/9 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net: After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there. I swapped to my KDE version of ~/.xinitrc then did 'startx' yes the desktop menus the panel menu had vanished. Then I started Krusader, got the 'open with' box for a text file told it to open the file with Leafpad: it did some updating obeyed. After that, the other default 'open with' apps worked as before the KDE menus had been restored. To get Apwal back with L-mouse I had to use the KDE Control Centre 'desktop behaviour' re-apply it. So everything is back to normal Krusader behaves properly on Fluxbox too. Thanks Phillip. Did you get any apps in the 'Open With' menu list? Mine is empty. To get any application to open a file I have to type it manually (or choose one from the cached drop down entries in the Open With panel). I ran kate %U, but nothing much happened. :( Will try to repeat all this in a KDE session just in case. Meanwhile, what does your /home/user/.config/menus/applications.menu look like. Mine is empty and comes up with the error shown below: $ kbuildsycoca --menutest Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP. kbuildsycoca running... kbuildsycoca running... Reusing existing ksycoca kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Parse error in /home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, line 1, col 1: unexpected end of file Fixed it! I had to delete /home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, then change my setup to login using kdm/KDE instead xdm/fluxbox and this time kbuildsycoca worked. Phew! All my menus are back, Kleopatra works fine, and kcontrol has a list on the LH side. Getting back to fluxbox works as normal again. Thanks for the pointer! :) It seems that the elog message was implying that one must be using KDE as a DE rather than individual applications. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
090608 Mick wrote:
Just updated my KDE to the latest 3.5.10 and discovered
there is no KDE menu! This means no KDE applications menu,
no menu on the left hand pane when I run kcontrol from a terminal:
kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found!
Defaulting to Settings/
Also, I used to have this in my Fluxbox menu to launch Konqueror:
[exec] (Konqueror) {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}
However, this won't launch konqueror anymore.
elog said something about running kbuildsycoca as the user
I want to launch konqueror from, which I did,
but is there anything else I should do to fix any of the above?
I gave up on the KDE desktop after investigating KDE 4.2.1 (ugh!)
finding that the latest Fluxbox 1.1.1 was a bit better for what I do,
so I no longer use a KDE menu, but after updating to Kdelibs 3.5.10-r6 ,
I too encountered the problem with Konqueror above,
for which the fix is to rewrite with '{konqueror}'.
BTW I recommend Apwal for a quick pretty desktop menu
besides the more orthodox list you can put into the Fluxbox menu.
--
,,
SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb
ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
2009/6/8 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net:
090608 Mick wrote:
Just updated my KDE to the latest 3.5.10 and discovered
there is no KDE menu! This means no KDE applications menu,
no menu on the left hand pane when I run kcontrol from a terminal:
kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found!
Defaulting to Settings/
Also, I used to have this in my Fluxbox menu to launch Konqueror:
[exec] (Konqueror) {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}
However, this won't launch konqueror anymore.
elog said something about running kbuildsycoca as the user
I want to launch konqueror from, which I did,
but is there anything else I should do to fix any of the above?
I gave up on the KDE desktop after investigating KDE 4.2.1 (ugh!)
finding that the latest Fluxbox 1.1.1 was a bit better for what I do,
so I no longer use a KDE menu, but after updating to Kdelibs 3.5.10-r6 ,
I too encountered the problem with Konqueror above,
for which the fix is to rewrite with '{konqueror}'.
BTW I recommend Apwal for a quick pretty desktop menu
besides the more orthodox list you can put into the Fluxbox menu.
Thanks Philip, I also noticed that 'konqueror' works fine, so I
changed the FB menu accordingly. Apwal looks cool, I will give it a
spin (although I am conditioned to years of using the FB right-click
menu).
The problem remains though with most menus and submenus in KDE
applications; e.g. right-click on a file in Konqueror, then 'Open
With' and there are no applications in the popup to select from ... I
have to type the application manually. This is a rather significant
usability hurdle for me.
Any KDE gurus out there?
--
Regards,
Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
090608 Mick wrote: I noticed 'konqueror' works fine, so I changed the FB menu accordingly. Apwal looks cool, I will give it a spin, though I am conditioned to years of using the FB right-click menu. I have L-mouse = Apwal R-mouse = FB menu : in ~/.fluxbox/init : OnDesktop Mouse1 :Exec apwal OnDesktop Mouse2 :HideMenus OnDesktop Mouse3 :RootMenu The problem remains with most menus and submenus in KDE applications: e.g. right-click on a file in Konqueror, then 'Open With' and there are no applications in the popup to select from . Yes, that reminds me that there was also a problem with Krusader, which no longer knows what to open files with, even after it is told to 'remember' the desired app. I also updated to kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 , which mb the cause of both problems. We should try recompiling Konqueror Krusader to see if that helps. Any KDE gurus out there ? They're all too busy looking at their reflections in Plasma (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
Run in konsole kde 4.2 , bash$ kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental with this you force the rebuild of kde menu. Saludos. 2009/6/8 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net 090608 Mick wrote: I noticed 'konqueror' works fine, so I changed the FB menu accordingly. Apwal looks cool, I will give it a spin, though I am conditioned to years of using the FB right-click menu. I have L-mouse = Apwal R-mouse = FB menu : in ~/.fluxbox/init : OnDesktop Mouse1 :Exec apwal OnDesktop Mouse2 :HideMenus OnDesktop Mouse3 :RootMenu The problem remains with most menus and submenus in KDE applications: e.g. right-click on a file in Konqueror, then 'Open With' and there are no applications in the popup to select from . Yes, that reminds me that there was also a problem with Krusader, which no longer knows what to open files with, even after it is told to 'remember' the desired app. I also updated to kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 , which mb the cause of both problems. We should try recompiling Konqueror Krusader to see if that helps. Any KDE gurus out there ? They're all too busy looking at their reflections in Plasma (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca -- Cristian Gonzalo Gary Bufadel
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
090608 Cristian Gary wrote: 2009/6/8 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net 090608 Mick wrote: The problem remains with most menus and submenus in KDE applications: e.g. right-click on a file in Konqueror, then 'Open With' and there are no applications in the popup to select from . Yes, that reminds me that there was also a problem with Krusader, which no longer knows what to open files with, even after it is told to 'remember' the desired app. I also updated to kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 , which mb the cause of both problems. Any KDE gurus out there ? They're all too busy looking at their reflections in Plasma (smile). Run in konsole kde 4.2 , bash$ kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental with this you force the rebuild of kde menu. We're not using KDE 4 ! -- I don't have any of KDE 4 installed ! I've remerged Konqueror Krusader the problem with the latter remains. I also (already) tried 'kbuildsycoca' : 501: ~ kbuildsycoca --noincremental kbuildsycoca running... kio (KService*): WARNING: The service/mime type config file application/x-staroffice.desktop does not contain a ServiceType=... or MimeType=... entry kbuildsycoca: ERROR: applications.menu not found in (/home/purslow/.config/menus/) kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kcertpart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/binary-certificate' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-fortran' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'knotify.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'KNotify' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'gvimagepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-krl' Anyone have further suggestions ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
2009/6/8 Cristian Gary cristiang...@gmail.com: Run in konsole kde 4.2 , bash$ kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental with this you force the rebuild of kde menu. Thank you both. I am still running kde-3.5.10 so I ran: $ kbuildsycoca --noincremental Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP. kbuildsycoca running... kbuildsycoca: ERROR: applications.menu not found in (/home/michael/.config/menus/) kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under apps instead of services kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ark_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/english' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/english' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kcertpart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/binary-certificate' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kxsldbg_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/english' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kxsldbg_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kxsldbg_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-fortran' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'knotify.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'KNotify' kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ksvgplugin.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/svg' True enough the error about applications.menu is because this is what I have under /home/michael/.config/menus: total 0 drwx-- 3 michael users 88 May 13 2008 . drwx-- 8 michael users 224 May 30 16:55 .. drwx-- 2 michael users 48 May 13 2008 applications-merged $ ls -la /home/michael/.config/menus/applications-merged total 0 drwx-- 2 michael users 48 May 13 2008 . drwx-- 3 michael users 88 May 13 2008 .. What should it be in there? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
On Montag 08 Juni 2009, Mick wrote:
Hi All,
Can't recall if anyone else posted on this. Just updated my KDE to
the latest 3.5.10 and discovered that there is no KDE menu! This
means no KDE applications menu, as well as no menu on the left hand
pane when I run kcontrol from a terminal:
kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found
! Defaulting to Settings/
Also, I used to have this in my Fluxbox menu to launch Konqueror:
[exec] (Konqueror) {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}
However, this won't launch konqueror anymore.
elog said something about running kbuildsycoca as the user I want to
launch konqueror from, which I did, but is there anything else I
should do to fix any of the above?
are you missing mimelib
have you updated from monolithic to split - and missed a couple of packages?
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
090608 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: are you missing mimelib Yes, in fact I've never heard of it before. Has it suddenly become necessary with the latest KDE 3.5.10 ? have you updated from monolithic to split - and missed a couple of packages? Not here. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
On Monday 08 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote: 090608 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: are you missing mimelib Yes, in fact I've never heard of it before. Has it suddenly become necessary with the latest KDE 3.5.10 ? have you updated from monolithic to split - and missed a couple of packages? Not here. I've updated from monolithic to split (actually removed monolithic and then installed split) years ago. It has been working fine until now - 3.5.10 I seem to have installed kde-base/mimelib, I guess as dependency: kde-base/mimelib Installed versions: 3.5.10(3.5)(20:11:53 06/07/09)(-debug -elibc_FreeBSD) I also tried changing fluxbox for kdm (in case this is a fluxbox WM issue) and restarte X with kdm. Ran kbuildsycoca, but same error again. :( -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
090608 Mick wrote: I seem to have installed kde-base/mimelib, I guess as dependency: eix kde-base/mimelib Installed versions: 3.5.10(3.5)(20:11:53 06/07/09)(-debug -elibc_FreeBSD) I also tried changing fluxbox for kdm (in case this is a fluxbox WM issue) and restarted X with kdm. Ran kbuildsycoca, but same error again. I always 'startx' from a raw terminal. I recompiled kcminit kfind kpersonalizer kreadconfig rebooted, but there is no change in Krusader's behaviour. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing
On Monday 08 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote: 090608 Mick wrote: I seem to have installed kde-base/mimelib, I guess as dependency: eix kde-base/mimelib Installed versions: 3.5.10(3.5)(20:11:53 06/07/09)(-debug -elibc_FreeBSD) I also tried changing fluxbox for kdm (in case this is a fluxbox WM issue) and restarted X with kdm. Ran kbuildsycoca, but same error again. I always 'startx' from a raw terminal. I recompiled kcminit kfind kpersonalizer kreadconfig rebooted, but there is no change in Krusader's behaviour. Just tried kfmclient and this is the response: $ kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing kfmclient: ERROR: Couldn't start konqueror from konqueror.desktop: Could not find service 'konqueror.desktop'. So it seems that all the kde applications that were installed have not been registered. I remerged konqueror just in case and noticed this elog message amidst others: * Messages for package kde-base/konqueror-3.5.10: * /usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/keditbookmarks.desktop: required key Type in group Desktop Entry is not present -- required key Name in group Desktop Entry is not present The file in question contains: [Desktop Entry] Hidden=true Should it be Hidden-false? What is this for? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome
On Monday 30 Apr 2007 10:57:08 pm Roy Wright wrote: Is this clashing of menu structures normal between window managers? If so, any tools for backing up the menu structure? Or a way to tell gnome to use kde menu structure? I can't help much as I don't run GNOME along with KDE but this menu looks nice for people who do http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/K+Menu+Gnome+(source)?content=31025 -- Regards, Abhay signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome
quoth the Roy Wright: Is there any way to recover? Or do I just have to take the hour or two and recreate my menu structure? Perhaps try kappfinder...or perhaps use the desktop settings wizard to change back to default state if kappfinder doesn't work. Is this clashing of menu structures normal between window managers? If so, any tools for backing up the menu structure? Or a way to tell gnome to use kde menu structure? I believe this is because of the 'freedesktop' standard[1] or whatever. From what I have gleamed from various mailing lists it creates more clashes than integration (I cannot speak personally on this as I don't run Gnome). Though, I of course may be wrong here. Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on disk. Any good references? Have a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk As for docs on this: ???... TIA, Roy [1] http://freedesktop.org/wiki -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome
On Monday 30 April 2007 23:18:00 darren kirby wrote: quoth the Roy Wright: Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on disk. Any good references? Have a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk Take also a look at ~/.local/share/applnk Regards, Elias P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:00:18 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: Or you can use quickpkg to make binary tarballs of the KDE packages, and then re-install from those, which will fix the mtime/md5 sums in the package database to match what you changed. According to the manpage for qcheck, part of portage-utils, you should be able to do this with qcheck --update packagename, although I've not tried it. -- Neil Bothwick What I need is a list of specific unknown problems we will encounter. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
060721 Leonardo wrote: I'm using gentoo since some months now and I have to say that I really start to like it ... , Did it take you that long (grin) ? esp the possibility of customizing your system. Yes, that's what Gentoo is largely about living at the cutting edge. On the 'not so happy' side, the biggest point is I don't have a 'consistent' kde menu: Is there a way to reorganize the menu automatically without having to go through all the installed packages per hand? KDE tries to organise the items in a rational manner, but it also provides Kmenuedit to allow you to do whatever you want. After you've designed your menu as you like it best, you simply have to check that new apps get put where you prefer. BTW there's a cute little app Apwal (x11-misc), which you can customise to call up a temporary array of icons on your desktop representing apps. I have it assigned to L-click use it for apps I commonly use, but don't have restarted by KDE when it starts up. Apwal deserves to be better known. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
--- Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 060721 Leonardo wrote: I'm using gentoo since some months now and I have to say that I really start to like it ... , Did it take you that long (grin) ? Haha. I think installing Gentoo takes forever. When it looks ok, I start thinking how to do things differently, and the emerge goes on, and on... I don't have a 'consistent' kde menu: Is there a way to reorganize the menu automatically without having to go through all the installed packages per hand? KDE tries to organise the items in a rational manner, but it also provides Kmenuedit to allow you to do whatever you want. After you've designed your menu as you like it best, you simply have to check that new apps get put where you prefer. BTW there's a cute little app Apwal (x11-misc), which you can customise to call up a temporary array of icons on your desktop representing apps. I have it assigned to L-click use it for apps I commonly use, but don't have restarted by KDE when it starts up. Apwal deserves to be better known. Nice tool Apwal. I knew Kmenuedit already, but I have way too many apps to loose time reorganizing the menu going after them one by one. 'Till some months ago at home, and at work I was/am using Mandriva; when I urpmi a package there, it goes automatically in the kde menu. Isn't there a similar way of doing it in Gentoo, maybe an app that goes through the 'world' and reconstructs with some decent categorization the menus (kde, gnome...)? Ciao, Leodp __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
060721 Leonardo wrote: 'Till some months ago at home, and at work I was/am using Mandriva; when I urpmi a package there, it goes automatically in the kde menu. Isn't there a similar way of doing it in Gentoo, That's what should happen with a KDE app on Gentoo. It should be a function of KDE, not the distro. Sometimes, KDE puts apps in unexpected places: perhaps you were just lucky with the apps you installed with Mandriva. Before Gentoo (2000-3), I used Mandriva didn't notice any difference. Another possibility is that you're now using a newer version of KDE, which may do things differently, though again I haven't noticed it. You don't have to put everything in the KDE menu: you can use the miniterminal ( Alt-F2 ), which has a history list. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
Leonardo wrote: I knew Kmenuedit already, but I have way too many apps to loose time reorganizing the menu going after them one by one. So many apps!? But you do this only once, you never reinstall KDE or Gentoo, the customized menus stay with you forever. But good apps _do_ add themselves to the menus, if they contain a .desktop file that goes into /usr/share/applications/ . If your favourite apps don't do this, report a bug to them, upstream. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
Benno Schulenberg schrieb: But good apps _do_ add themselves to the menus, if they contain a .desktop file that goes into /usr/share/applications/ . If your favourite apps don't do this, report a bug to them, upstream. IMO that's one of the weakpoints of Gentoo. Other distributions, like the Debian crowd (Ubuntu) or Mandrivia, make it so, that each and every important application is added to the menu. In Ubuntu it is so, that in Gnome (and I suppose in KDE as well) there's a Debian menu which holds all the applications. Something like this should be done as well in Gentoo. Alexander Skwar -- Are you mentally here at Pizza Hut?? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2006 22:57 schrieb Benno Schulenberg: But good apps _do_ add themselves to the menus, if they contain a .desktop file that goes into /usr/share/applications/ . If your favourite apps don't do this, report a bug to them, upstream. Is this also true for games? I know quite a few games which haven't got their own .desktop files, like torcs, ace of penguins and gl-117. Gian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 00:17:55 +0200, Gian Domeni Calgeer wrote: Is this also true for games? I know quite a few games which haven't got their own .desktop files, like torcs, ace of penguins and gl-117. File bugs for them. -- Neil Bothwick Gotta run, cat's caught in the printer... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
Benno Schulenberg wrote: But good apps _do_ add themselves to the menus, if they contain a .desktop file that goes into /usr/share/applications/ . If your favourite apps don't do this, report a bug to them, upstream. What I'd really love would be for the ebuild to elog which menu folder the application is installed to! My standard procedure is: 1. emerge newApp 2. look in the folder(s) I'd expect it to be in 3. look in Lost Found 4. look in all folders 5. run Menu Updating Tool 6. manually create the menu entry BTW, anyone know how KDE stores the menu items? It might be faster to search there with find/grep... Have fun, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kde menu
On 7/21/06, Leonardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the 'not so happy' side I think I have found only minor
things; the biggest point is I don't have a 'consistent' kde
menu:
I think you will find that Gentoo follows the $upstream releases much
more closely than other distributions...
some applications with GUI are missing from the menu
...so if some GUI application doesn't have a .desktop file provided by
$upstream, Gentoo probably will not have it.
However it is perfectly reasonable to file bugs in bugs.gentoo.org
about this, and request a .desktop file be added. It is even better
if you can make a .desktop file yourself, and attach it to the bug
report.
some are present twice
Did you preserve your ~/.kde directories from another system? If so,
you may have .desktop files there that account for the duplicate
entries.
the categorization itself is somehow dis-organized, with some entries showing an
'other' child menu, listing applications that could fit also in the parent menu
(things like kde-graphic-other).
Not sure what you mean by other. I have More Applications
sub-menus, but no Other menus. But assuming this is what you mean,
this is controlled by the X-KDE-More category in the .desktop file.
Again, this is a case of Gentoo following $upstream more closely.
If you really don't like this, you can:
find /usr/kde/3.5/share/applications -name *.desktop -exec \
sed -i -e s/X-KDE-More;//g {} \;
But bewarned, gentoo will then refuse to remove the .desktop files
when you go to a new KDE version, since their mtime and md5sum will no
longer match what gentoo thinks they should be. So you may have to do
a bit of manual cleanup from time-to-time. Or you can use quickpkg to
make binary tarballs of the KDE packages, and then re-install from
those, which will fix the mtime/md5 sums in the package database to
match what you changed.
-Richard
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