[Gimp-user] Wacom Tablet For Flower Photographer and Software Developer
I've been following the discussion of Wacom tablets with great interest. My wife has a birthday coming up. She has a collection of over 125,000 flower photographs which she mostly likes to view on a Windows XP computer with two widescreen monitors. I am thinking of presenting her with a Wacom tablet since she loves photography so much. Would this make sense for her? Her drawing skills are better than mine but she has no formal graphics education. Would a Wacom also be of use to someone like me, I'm just a software developer, but I was wondering if I could connect a Wacom to a TV and draw diagrams right on the Wacom which could then show on TV. Or am I off base there? I too have a small photo collection which I like to organize and edit heavily, mostly for practical how-to type wiki posts. Bob Cochran Maryland, USA ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom Tablet For Flower Photographer and Software Developer
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote: Would a Wacom also be of use to someone like me, I'm just a software developer, but I was wondering if I could connect a Wacom to a TV and draw diagrams right on the Wacom which could then show on TV. Or am I off base there? I too have a small photo collection which I like to organize and edit heavily, mostly for practical how-to type wiki posts. i recommend them for everyone. much better for your hands and a much more comfortable pointing device. only thing is, learning curve. me and my wife love our tablets. i have a tablet pc, we both have tablets on our workstations and she is about to buy a cintiq. however, my sister cannot stand them, she cannot get over the hump of the learning curve. thats about the only thing you might want to worry about. perhaps getting it from someplace that you can easily return it would be the best bet. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom Tablet For Flower Photographer and Software Developer
The dual monitor setup is also an issue for some tablets. If you map the area of both screens to the tablet area you will either have a different aspect ratio (bad for drawing) or only use a portion of the tablet. Some of the higher end tablets allow for screen toggling (i.e. toggle the screen the tablet is active on) so you need to check that. -Rob A ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom Tablet For Flower Photographer and Software Developer
Rob Antonishen rob.antonis...@gmail.com writes: Some of the higher end tablets allow for screen toggling (i.e. toggle the screen the tablet is active on) so you need to check that. I would have expected this to be the task of the operating system, not the tablet. -- Johan ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
On 10/11/2010 07:22 AM, gerard82 wrote: ... elision by patrick ... Thanks for your reply Patrick. I'm on Gentoo Linux which forces you to learn the inner workings of Linux. I know about the lag of Linux but there's a lot of source code available that you can compile yourself.Double fun. I am purely an amateur so speed in producing results is no concern. Your post has made me doubt what would be best. The cheapest Intuos (which I think has tilt) comes at € 220 (6x4 ins). You might check places like ebay. Every day people buy tablets and then end up never using them and selling them practically new for a great price. The new Intuos at 6.3 x 3.9 active area sells for $229 US. It has +-60 degrees of tilt. 5080 lines per inch (as do all of the Intuos of any size). 2048 pressure sensitivity levels. It's pretty good! On Amazon, a used one is as low as $149 right now, and a used medium is as low as $249. If you'd be happy with the Intuos 3, ebay has a bunch of new ones really cheap. Wouldn't it be cool to have a big cintiq? $1999 US. There's plans on the web to make your own from recycled parts. http://www.bongofish.co.uk/wacom/wacom_pt1.html or http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/maximum_pc_builds_a_multitouch_surface_computer Patrick ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
On 10/09/2010 06:36 AM, gerard82 wrote: I want to buy a Wacom tablet for use in Gimp. I browsed the web and noticed they come in different sizes. Is size important and why? Also some come with touch is it of any use in Gimp? Gerard. Just my 2 cents here. Someone pointed out to me that if I didn't do large gestural drawing a 4x6 would do me fine and save me a lot of money. They were right. I've never missed a larger one. What I'm envious of is tilt. My Bamboo Fun doesn't have tilt, and gimp is able to respond to tilt. It would make some things more expressive, imagine tilting your brush and laying more of it on a canvas then straightening it up during a stroke for example. Touch could be cool. Touch is where you don't need the stylus, but (I am imagining since I don't have it) the precision is less. Imagine reaching out to a canvas with your finger and smudging something. That would be cool. You didn't say what kind of system you use. New Wacom tablets are supported right away on Mac and Windows, but lag a little bit (could be a few days to a few months depending) on Linux. Any other questions feel free to ask. Patrick ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
On 10/09/2010 07:07 AM, Johan Vromans wrote: gerard82for...@gimpusers.com writes: I browsed the web and noticed they come in different sizes. Is size important and why? Size is important since it determines how accurately you can draw. No, that's not true, the precision determines that a small high precision tablet would beat a large low precision tablet. And beware! The size of the tablet is misleading, it is the size of the active area that matters. For example, the Intuos 4M is 370 mm x 254 mm but the active area is about 1/4th of this size. That's true. You need to look at the active area. Patrick ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
On 10/09/2010 07:27 AM, Norman Silverstone wrote: I want to buy a Wacom tablet for use in Gimp. I browsed the web and noticed they come in different sizes. Is size important and why? Also some come with touch is it of any use in Gimp? I use the Wacom Bamboo for editing photographic images and am very satisfied with what it does. To be able to have a variable touch is very useful especially for dodging and burning. I think you mean pressure sensitivity here. A tablet without it would be useless for drawing, imho. Patrick ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
On 10/09/2010 09:56 AM, Ofnuts wrote: On 09/10/2010 15:36, gerard82 wrote: I want to buy a Wacom tablet for use in Gimp. I browsed the web and noticed they come in different sizes. Is size important and why? Not *that* important... bigger tablets mean wider moves, but bigger tablets are also more accurate. Again, please be careful with this. It's the resolution that sets this not the size. A small tablet can be high resolution. A small pro-level expensive tablet WILL have higher resolution than a large inexpensive non-pro tablet. Size doesn't tell you anything about resolution. It's like the difference between a small hi-def tv and a larger regular-def tv. The hi-def still has higher resolution, i.e. dots/in. Personally I like my Bamboo One, it's small enough to be slipped in the PC bag when needed. Also some come with touch is it of any use in Gimp? Yes... many Gimp tools are pressure-sensitive with a tablet, and will give you the choice of how to apply the pressure (opacity, width...). The pro tablets have a more accurate pressure scale (4096 values, vs 256 for an entry-level Bamboo). That's not touch. Touch is the ability to use without a pen or stylus. On the more inexpensive tablets Wacom lets you choose Pen and Touch, Pen only, or Touch only. Pen is required, for drawing, touch might be a cool addition. Pressure sensitivity is required for drawing. Another cool feature of most Wacom tablets is that both stylus tips are active, so you can switch tools by reversing the stylus (one isn't pressure sensitive and is usually asigned to the Eraser tool. That IS cool. I often reach over and click different tools anyway 'cause it's faster then flipping the stylus in my hand. Patrick ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
I want to buy a Wacom tablet for use in Gimp. I browsed the web and noticed they come in different sizes. Is size important and why? Also some come with touch is it of any use in Gimp? Gerard. -- gerard82 (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
gerard82 for...@gimpusers.com writes: I browsed the web and noticed they come in different sizes. Is size important and why? Size is important since it determines how accurately you can draw. And beware! The size of the tablet is misleading, it is the size of the active area that matters. For example, the Intuos 4M is 370 mm x 254 mm but the active area is about 1/4th of this size. For amateur use, I'd say go for an active area of size A6. For semi-professional use an active area size A5 or even A4 may be better. I've worked with an early Intuos (active area A6) and loved it. Unfortunaltely it is no longer supported by my operating system. -- Johan ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
I want to buy a Wacom tablet for use in Gimp. I browsed the web and noticed they come in different sizes. Is size important and why? Also some come with touch is it of any use in Gimp? I use the Wacom Bamboo for editing photographic images and am very satisfied with what it does. To be able to have a variable touch is very useful especially for dodging and burning. Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
On 09/10/2010 15:36, gerard82 wrote: I want to buy a Wacom tablet for use in Gimp. I browsed the web and noticed they come in different sizes. Is size important and why? Not *that* important... bigger tablets mean wider moves, but bigger tablets are also more accurate. Personally I like my Bamboo One, it's small enough to be slipped in the PC bag when needed. Also some come with touch is it of any use in Gimp? Yes... many Gimp tools are pressure-sensitive with a tablet, and will give you the choice of how to apply the pressure (opacity, width...). The pro tablets have a more accurate pressure scale (4096 values, vs 256 for an entry-level Bamboo). Another cool feature of most Wacom tablets is that both stylus tips are active, so you can switch tools by reversing the stylus (one isn't pressure sensitive and is usually asigned to the Eraser tool. -- Bertrand ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
I want to buy a Wacom tablet for use in Gimp. I browsed the web and noticed they come in different sizes. Is size important and why? Also some come with touch is it of any use in Gimp? Gerard. Thank you all for your answers. I'll buy a bamboo active area 217x137 mm ~8.5x5.5 ins. It sells here for €170.That's how much I can spend. It has touch but that can be switched off. Special thanks to Walton. I use a trackball also but for precise work a regular mouse is better I think. I'm impressed by your portfolio.It'll be a long time before I can produce anything like that though. Gerard. -- gerard82 (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
I've had the same problems on my tablet PC, also with GIMP 2.4.2. I remember it working fine on Vista, although I'm not sure whether I had the same version of GIMP, it may have been 2.4.1 I did test it in Adobe Flash as well to see if it was an issue with the pen, and had the same trouble, so I think the tablet driver is to blame. I id try reinstalling it but this ended up making the pen not work at all, at the moment I have uninstalled Wacom's driver again and am using the Windows XP built in driver, which lacks functionality for pressure sensitivity and the eraser. I will try installing the driver again and will tell you how that works out. -- -Simon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
Am Sonntag 20 Januar 2008 schrieb Christopher Burkhart: I am using Gimp 2.4.2 under Windows and I am trying to get my Wacom Bamboo Fun working Hi Christopher, did you ever try to boot a recent Live CD (Kanotix, Sidux, Ubuntu)? I could imagine that your tablet works out of the box there. Regards Ralf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
Ralf, Under vanilla Ubuntu, the Bamboo Fun does not run. Right now I am having some other issues with my Ubuntu install at the moment, but it does take a bit more effort then just plug and play. However, I am having these problems in Vista with only Gimp, under other programs it is working fine. Is there anyway to search the archives? Thanks Chris On Jan 20, 2008 10:30 AM, RalfGesellensetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag 20 Januar 2008 schrieb Christopher Burkhart: I am using Gimp 2.4.2 under Windows and I am trying to get my Wacom Bamboo Fun working Hi Christopher, did you ever try to boot a recent Live CD (Kanotix, Sidux, Ubuntu)? I could imagine that your tablet works out of the box there. Regards Ralf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
On Jan 20, 2008 12:54 PM, Christopher Burkhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ralf, Under vanilla Ubuntu, the Bamboo Fun does not run. Right now I am having some other issues with my Ubuntu install at the moment, but it does take a bit more effort then just plug and play. However, I am having these problems in Vista with only Gimp, under other programs it is working fine. Is there anyway to search the archives? Click on the link in the footer of the list message, then click on archives to browse the archives. https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Or you can use something like the following as a search string on google: site:berkeley.edu gimp-user wacom Slightly off topic, since your chasing a vista problem, but for future reference, if you have issues with linux and wacom there is another list that may be helpful: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-discuss Mike ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Wacom tablet
I am using Gimp 2.4.2 under Windows and I am trying to get my Wacom Bamboo Fun working and I am having some issues. For instance the pen quits working, and it doesn't seem to recognize the two different tips of the stylus. Also the pressure sensitivity responds in wacky ways, for example its not a smooth progression. I would love to search the archives, since I am sure this had already come up, but I am not really sure how to... Any help would be great Chris ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
