[gmx-users] effect of slab geometry correction on Coulomb energies for interface systems

2011-06-08 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I am trying to investigate how the slab geometry correction affects
calculated Coulomb energies for interface systems. I have an air/water
interface with a box size of 3x3x9 nm. I ran 2 independent simulations with
changing ewald_geometry option: 3d (default value), and 3dc. You can find
short and reciprocal Coulomb  energies below:

  *3d 3dc *
short-range Coulomb -45260.2 (6.5)   -45258.4 (5)
Reciprocal Coulomb  -3325.72 (0.13) -3325.54 (0.1)

I am wondering why short-range and reciprocal Coulomb energies are the same
within the error bars even though I use different schemes for
ewald_geometry?

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[gmx-users] problem with g_density

2010-10-25 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I have some difficulties with understanding the output of g_density command.
I have a system composed of two Lennard Jones particles, A and B in a
20.712x20.712x20.712 simulation box. The parameters between the two
particles are given such that they do not mix, but they undergo a phase
separation. I want to investigate the density profile of the system, and  I
used the following command line to do that:

g_density -f traj.xtc -n index.ndx -dens number -sl 100

The density profile for the two types of particles looks OK except the
boundaries of the simulation box. I mean I would not expect to get a number
other than 0 at the lower and upper boundaries. I have also searched the
mailing list. There was an e-mail similar to that one, but it was not
replied.

I have attached the density profile in the attachment.

Why is it the case?

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[gmx-users] Different hexane/water surface tensions fo r different ensembles (NVT and NAɣT)

2010-08-24 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I am trying to calculate the surface tension of hexane/water interface. I
used two different ensembles: constant particle, volume, temperature (NVT),
and constant area but let the box fluctuate on the z axis (NAɣT). Everything
except the ensemble is the same for two simulation set-up s: number of
molecules, temperature, temperature coupling, electrostatic and VDW
interaction schemes, cut-off etc.

I found a value close to the experimental one (52 dyn/cm) by using the NVT
ensemble. In order to check whether it is dependent on the system size, I
tried different sized systems, but it does not change. The results were the
same within the error bars, which is good. However, when I attempt to change
the ensemble to NAɣT I found different result. It is around 48 (1) dyn/cm.
Actually, I expected to have the same values with the two ensembles, but
not.

Am I missing something that is straightforward?

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[gmx-users] information regarding the bootstrap method implemented with the g_wham

2010-07-09 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I am trying to understand how the bootstrap method has been implemented
within the g_wham. Unfortunately, it is poorly documented in the help menu
and in the manual. I could not track of the options regarding the method.
Could anyone (maybe the one who has implemented the method) give a little
bit detailed information, please?

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[gmx-users] output of the -hist option of the g_wham command

2010-06-22 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I am trying to perform umbrella sampling along with the WHAM to get the PMF.
I go over the umbrella sampling tutorial prepared by Justin. Everything
seems OK to me except one point. I could not understand the output given by
the hist option of the g_wham command. There,  what does histogram of
configurations mean?

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[gmx-users] number of water molecules affects the PMF

2010-06-02 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi Chris,

The two setups were different from each other in terms of only the number of
water molecules. Even the starting
conformations for the two peptides were the same. I especially took care
about that to leave only the number of molecules as a variable.

I calculated the error by dividing the whole data to 4, and calculated the
standard deviation between the 4 sets, and divided the result by sqrt (3).

For the Xavier's suggestion: I think I should wait a little, at least until
having the same length of trajectory for the two sets.

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[gmx-users] number of water molecules affects the PMF

2010-06-01 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I am trying to calculate the potential of mean force between the two
hydrophobic dipeptides (phenylalanine) in bulk water via constraint pulling
simulations. First, I calculated the mean force at each of the constraint
points, and then I integrated the mean force curve to get the PMF.

In order to test how big the effect of the number of water molecules on the
calculated PMF I performed two sets of simulations which differed from each
other in terms of only the number of water molecules. I used 9000 water
molecules in one set, and 7000 in the other. The overall PMF for the latter
was steeper than the former, as I expected before. However, the minimum
point for the former was around 2.79 kJ/mol, and for the latter 5.30 kJ/mol.
I did not think that the difference should not be that much since there is
not a big difference between the number of water molecules between the two
sets.

I searched the internet to find a study regarding the concentration
dependency of the PMF.

Is this reasonable? Any suggestions?

Regards

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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 13

2010-06-01 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi Xavier,

Ok, it would be better to talk with the average values together with the
corresponding error bars. For the system having smaller number of water
molecules the minimum of the PMF  was around -4.31+-0.97 kJ/mol, and for the
other system it was around  -1.75+-1.05 kJ/mol. Therefore, the difference is
significant.

Regards


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 Today's Topics:

   1. Re: number of water molecules affects the PMF (XAvier Periole)
   2. Re: Fatal error: Atom O in residue CO 1 not found in rtp
  entry with 3 atoms  while sorting atoms (Nilesh Dhumal)
   3. Re: Fatal error: Atom O in residue CO 1 not found in  rtp
  entry with 3 atoms  while sorting atoms (Justin A. Lemkul)
   4. Re: Fatal error: Atom O in residue CO 1 not found in  rtp
  entry with 3 atoms  while sorting atoms (Mark Abraham)


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 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 21:41:42 +0200
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 On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Ozge Engin wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  I am trying to calculate the potential of mean force between the two
  hydrophobic dipeptides (phenylalanine) in bulk water via constraint
  pulling simulations. First, I calculated the mean force at each of
  the constraint points, and then I integrated the mean force curve to
  get the PMF.
 
  In order to test how big the effect of the number of water molecules
  on the calculated PMF I performed two sets of simulations which
  differed from each other in terms of only the number of water
  molecules. I used 9000 water molecules in one set, and 7000 in the
  other. The overall PMF for the latter was steeper than the former,
  as I expected before. However, the minimum point for the former was
  around 2.79 kJ/mol, and for the latter 5.30 kJ/mol. I did not think
  that the difference should not be that much since there is not a big
  difference between the number of water molecules between the two sets.
 Could it be that the difference is within the error ? What happens if
 you
 cut your data of each simulation in two pieces? In other words are you
 converged?
 
  I searched the internet to find a study regarding the concentration
  dependency of the PMF.
 
  Is this reasonable? Any suggestions?
 
  Regards
 
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 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:42:22 -0400
 From: Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.edu
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error: Atom O in residue CO 1 not found
in rtp  entry with 3 atoms  while sorting atoms
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 I have addes the CO residue.
 Coordinate file

 REMARK   Accelrys Discovery Studio PDB file
 REMARK   Created:  Fri May 28 17:26:23 Eastern Daylight Time 2010
 HETATM1  C1  CO 0  -1.044  -0.027   0.066  0.00  0.00
 C
 HETATM2  O2  CO 0  -0.009   0.642  -0.037  0.00  0.00
 O
 HETATM3  O3  CO 0  -2.286   0.595  -0.030  0.00  0.00
 O
 END

 in ffopla.rtp file.

 [ CO ] ; mandatory
 [ ATOMS ] ; mandatory
  C1   opls_9741.00   1
  O2   opls_975   -0.50   2
  O3   opls_976   -0.50   2

 [ bonds ]
  C1 O2
  C1 O3

 I have also addes new atoms typs in ffopls.atp file.

 NIlesh

 On Tue, June 1, 2010 3:35 pm, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
 

 
  Nilesh Dhumal wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
 
  I am getting the following error during pdb2gmx.
 
 
  Fatal error: Atom O in residue CO 1 not found in rtp entry with 3 atoms
   while sorting atoms
 
  I checked the pdb file and ffopls.rtp file also.
 
 
 
  And what did you find?  To my knowledge there is no such residue CO in
  the ffoplsaa.rtp file

[gmx-users] g_sas command with the -q option

2010-04-15 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I have a system which is composed of hexane-peptide-water-peptide-hexane
layers. There, I selected the hexane+peptide system as the calculation
group, and the hexane group as the output group to calculate the hexane area
that is in contact with water. To do this I used the g_sas command with the
-q option. I looked at the connelly.pdb file via vmd. I think the
calculation and the output groups are shown in that file. I saw that the the
upper, right and left sides of the simulation box have been included which
means to me the periodic boundaries are not taken into account during the
calculation. In addition, when I use the g_sas command I get a warning as
the following:

WARNING: Analysis based on vacuum simulations (with the possibility of
evaporation)will certainly crash the analysis. Turning off pbc.

So, the periodic boundary is taken into account or not during the sas
calculation?

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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 72, Issue 36

2010-04-08 Thread Ozge Engin
 

 
 rcoulomb = 1.2
 

 
 ; Dielectric constant (DC) for cut-off or DC of reaction field
 

 
 epsilon-r = 1
 

 
 ; Method for doing Van der Waals
 

 
 vdw-type = switch
 

 
 ; cut-off lengths
 

 
 rvdw-switch = 1
 

 
 rvdw = 1.2
 

 

 

 

 

 
 then i get the message :Maximum force: 3.14171e+03
 

 
 Maximum force probably not small enough to ensure that you are in an
 

 
 energy well. Be aware that negative eigenvalues may occur when the
 

 
 resulting matrix is diagonalized.
 

 

 

 

 

 
 I am sorry to post such a lengthy query, but I have no clue about the root
 of the problem.
 

 
 Any suggestion will be of great help.
 

 
 Thanks in advance,
 

 
 Sarbani.
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[gmx-users] problem with the energy minimization of a system composed of two NA+ ions and explicit water

2010-03-30 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

First of all, thank you for your quick reply Justin. Here, I want to state
the problem in a clearer way.

I have been trying to calculate the PMF between two NA+ ions in explicit
water. In order to do that I first pulled one of the NA+ ions continuously
with respect to the other until the farthest point on the PMF curve was
reached. After that I split the continuous pulling trajectory from the
points that are in correspondence with the constraint points of the PMF
curve. These were done via *genera_start_4* script.

I took each starting conformation, that was obtained from continuous
pulling, solvated with water, and then energy minimized. Then, I prepared
the systems for constraint pulling MD production runs. These were done via *
input* script. Interestingly, systems (ion+water) at some of the constraint
points could not been energy minimized, it reached to the machine epsilon,
but not to the desired criteria. The force per atom was too high, around the
order of ^4. Moreover, this issue was not distance-dependent, which means
that the energy minimization worked for smaller constraint points, but not
for some of the larger constraint points. When I looked at the problematic
trajectories, I saw that bonds of a water molecule near the box boundary was
longer. I thought that this may be due to genbox command. Because of the
small radius of NA+ ion it may not check the overlaps among the atoms. In
order to test whether it is the case I increased the LJ parameters of the
ion. This worked for some of the points, but not for others. (Note that the
diameter is still smaller than the constraint distance between the two
ions.)

I use ffG45a3 force field, and the scripts given above. I tried this with
different versions of Gromacs: 4.0.7, 4.0.5, and faced with similar
problems.

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[gmx-users] energy minimization of a box containing two Na+ ions and water does not converge

2010-03-26 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I have been trying to calculate the PMF of two NA+ ions in explicit bulk
water. First, I tried to calculate the mean force between the two ions at a
distance of 0.48 nm, which is big enough than the diameter of the ions. I
first energy minimized the system with the script below, but it did not
converge. After that, I removed one of the ions, and tried again, it did not
work again.

I am using ffG43a1 ff, and checked whether I used the correct naming for the
ion: Everything seems to be OK.

I could not attach the initial coordinate file due to the limited size. If
you want I can also sent it to you as well.

*Script: *
title   =  Minimization
cpp =  /usr/bin/cpp
define  =  -DFLEX_SPC
constraints =  none
integrator  =  steep
dt  =  0.002; ps !
nsteps  =  3
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1.0
vdwtype =  cut-off
coulombtype =  PME
rcoulomb=  1.0
rvdw=  1.4
fourierspacing  =  0.12
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-5
optimize_fft= yes
;
;   Energy minimizing stuff
;
emtol   =  100.0
emstep  =  0.01


*Output*:

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 36 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax  100.
Potential Energy  = -1.0409969e+05
Maximum force =  9.6685031e+04 on atom 294
Norm of force =  1.4924829e+03

What may be the problem?

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[gmx-users] problem with the translate option of editconf

2010-02-15 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I am trying to translate the peptide within the simulation box. I have a box
with dimensions of 3.8 3.0 3.0 nm^3, and I want to put the peptide on top of
the box. In order to that I used the following command line:

editconf -f pep.pdb -box 3.8 3.0 3.0 -translate 0 0 1.5 -o trans.pdb

The peptide is not translated, but sitting at the center of the box. Why is
the case? Any suggestions?

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[gmx-users] coarse_grain.tcl script does not show all of the coarse-grained bonds in vmd

2009-12-03 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I was trying to show the bonds between my CG beads in VMD. I have four CG
beads per each molecule, and there are 18 separate molecules which contain
these four beads, which results in having 72 CG beads in total. Therefore,
I  expect  to see  54 CG bonds in the end.

I used the coarse_grain.tcl script to visualize these CG bonds as
suggested on the VMD page. I have two different bead types in the system: CA
and CG. In order to visualize the bonds I used the following command line on
Tk console:

source coarse_grained.tcl
g_cg -tpr topol.tpr -sel {{name CA} {name CB}} -rep {Licorice Licorice}
-color {name name}

After that it gave me the following lines:

[ g_cg ] Processing topol.tpr...
[ g_cg ] Create the bond list for 72 atoms...
[ g_cg ] Rebuild bonds...
[ g_cg ] Create representations...

which I understood that all the bonds are created successfully, but when I
looked at the screen  I could see only one of those CG bonds, but not the
others.  Why might be the reason?

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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 21

2009-12-03 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi Nicholas,

Sorry, I wrote the bead names wrong in the mail. I have just used the
correct CG names, but could not see any bond other than one.

Thank you

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   3. coarse_grain.tcl script does not show all of the
  coarse-grained bonds in vmd (Ozge Engin)
   4. Re: coarse_grain.tcl script does not show all of the
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 On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 02:30 +1100, Mark Abraham wrote:
  Jussi Lehtola wrote:
   I'm experiencing trouble converging the density of some heavy liquid
   alcohols (after 10 ns of simulation the density is still changing
   linearly). Is there any way to run pressure annealing in Gromacs?
   Running the system through a high pressure and temperature might give
 an
   equilibrium structure quicker.
 
  There's nothing native that I'm aware of, but it should be
  straightforward to use sed or perl in a script to do the annealing by
  hand in a series of mdrun invocations.

 Yup, that came to mind but then one ends up with N trajectories and log
 files. And one has to run a big pile of grompp commands, that waste some
 parallel run time, so I really would like something integrated.

 Besides, a thing like changing the reference pressure should be a
 no-brainer in the source code - assuming the code is well structured and
 one knows it well beforehand.

 Anyway, the problem was solved for now already. Still, pressure
 annealing would be a nice addon to gromacs. (I'll open a bug on bugzilla
 about it.)

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 Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:30:27 +0100
 From: Berk Hess g...@hotmail.com
 Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Exclusions in topology file seem not working
for big systems
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 Hi,

 If you really had too many exclusions you would get an error message.

 So I just tested this.
 I used the couple_moltype option to couple a 389 atom protein.
 This generates exclusions between each protein atom and the 388 others.
 All interactions are excluded correctly (and re-added as special 1-4's
 because
 of the couple option).
 So I don't understand what is going wrong in your case.

 Berk

 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:31:03 -0800
 From: resa...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Exclusions in topology file seem not working for
 big   systems
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org



 Thanks for your response Dr van der Spoel.

 Then there is a  limit on the number of atoms that can be defined in the
 exclusions section. My smaller system has 60 atoms and I used exclusions
 successfully for that, so I guess the limit might be a little more than 32.

 Regarding the use of  energygrp_excl,it seems it does not work with PME. If
 I define the protein in the energygrp_excl group, grompp gives me this
 warning:
 Can not exclude the lattice Coulomb energy between energy groups

  Which I think means some of electrostatics is not going to be excluded
 between protein atoms. Is there a workaround for this? I think my last
 resort would be to run a simulation first with PME and without exclusions,
 and then rerunning it but this time by defining protein in the
 energygrp_excl  and using cut-off instead of PME. Then I guess I will be
 left with only protein-water interactions.

 Regards,
 Reza Salari


 From: David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se

[gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in GROMACS

2008-03-31 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all, 

I am trying to use AMBER ff in GROMACS. I have followed the steps that are 
given in the  http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/  link. 

The first residue of the protein is GLN. I put an N prefix to this residue. The 
pdg2gmx works well except giving an warning of long bond between some atoms. 

In contrast, if I have not put any prefix to GLN, then, the following error 
appears:
+++
WARNING: atom H is missing in residue GLN 1 in the pdb file
You might need to add atom H to the hydrogen database of residue GLN
in the file ff???.hdb (see the manual)

---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 697

Fatal error:
There were 1 missing atoms in molecule Protein, if you want to use this 
incomplete topology anyhow, use the option -missing
+++

I looked at both the .rtp and .hdb files, but everything seems to be correct.

Does anybody face with a similar problem?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Re: [gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in GROMACS

2008-03-31 Thread OZGE ENGIN
I already indicated the problem that I have. If I put an N prefix to the first 
residue, I get warning of having long bonds. It has been indicated in the 
mail.Moreover, these long bonds can not be minimized during the minimization 
step. Although I put a relatively higher tolerance for the force on atoms.

-Original Message-
From: Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:42:55 -0400
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in GROMACS

Quoting OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all,

 I am trying to use AMBER ff in GROMACS. I have followed the steps that are
 given in the  http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/  link.

 The first residue of the protein is GLN. I put an N prefix to this residue.
 The pdg2gmx works well except giving an warning of long bond between some
 atoms.

 In contrast, if I have not put any prefix to GLN, then, the following error
 appears:
 +++
 WARNING: atom H is missing in residue GLN 1 in the pdb file
 You might need to add atom H to the hydrogen database of residue GLN
 in the file ff???.hdb (see the manual)

 ---
 Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
 Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 697

 Fatal error:
 There were 1 missing atoms in molecule Protein, if you want to use this
 incomplete topology anyhow, use the option -missing
 +++

 I looked at both the .rtp and .hdb files, but everything seems to be correct.

 Does anybody face with a similar problem?

If it is an N-terminal residue, it needs to be preceded by an 'N' (i.e., NGLN),
and likewise for C-terminal residues, CXXX.  This is in the documentation from
the AMBER ports at the link you cite above, and the link I already provided
you.

So what's the problem?

-Justin


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Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in GROMACS

2008-03-31 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Ok, it should be better to describe the problem in a more detailed way. 
I got this structure from Swiss-modeler program. I do not think I have a 
problem with the starting structure because I truncated the protein at some PRO 
residue, and got no error at all. So, there is something wrong about the 
nomenclature of the N terminus. I read things in the link, searched the web and 
made some discussion with my friend, but I could not find the source of the 
error :)

Thank you Justin

-Original Message-
From: Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:25:11 -0400
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in GROMACS

Quoting OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I already indicated the problem that I have. If I put an N prefix to the
 first residue, I get warning of having long bonds. It has been indicated in
 the mail.Moreover, these long bonds can not be minimized during the
 minimization step. Although I put a relatively higher tolerance for the force
 on atoms.

Alright, that makes more sense.  You didn't say before that you couldn't resolve
the long bonds by minimization.  It seemed that you were asking again about the
N-terminal nomenclature.  It sounds like your starting structure has problems,
but without knowing more I can't comment on that.  Is it something you've
built, something from the RCSB, etc?

Have a look at your structure and the mdrun output (md.log, in particular) to
see if you can determine where things are falling apart based on specific
warnings (LINCS, etc.)

-Justin


 -Original Message-
 From: Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:42:55 -0400
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in GROMACS

 Quoting OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi all,
 
  I am trying to use AMBER ff in GROMACS. I have followed the steps that are
  given in the  http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/  link.
 
  The first residue of the protein is GLN. I put an N prefix to this residue.
  The pdg2gmx works well except giving an warning of long bond between some
  atoms.
 
  In contrast, if I have not put any prefix to GLN, then, the following error
  appears:
  +++
  WARNING: atom H is missing in residue GLN 1 in the pdb file
  You might need to add atom H to the hydrogen database of residue GLN
  in the file ff???.hdb (see the manual)
 
  ---
  Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
  Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 697
 
  Fatal error:
  There were 1 missing atoms in molecule Protein, if you want to use this
  incomplete topology anyhow, use the option -missing
  +++
 
  I looked at both the .rtp and .hdb files, but everything seems to be
 correct.
 
  Does anybody face with a similar problem?

 If it is an N-terminal residue, it needs to be preceded by an 'N' (i.e.,
 NGLN),
 and likewise for C-terminal residues, CXXX.  This is in the documentation
 from
 the AMBER ports at the link you cite above, and the link I already provided
 you.

 So what's the problem?

 -Justin

 
  Thanks in advance
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Re: Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in GROMACS

2008-03-31 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Justin, thank you very much for your attention. This is totally my fault. After 
putting N to the first residue, the column that indicates the coordinates has 
been flipped to the right. So, the first numbers could not be read by pdb2gmx. 
That is the source of the problem. However, thank you again.


-Original Message-
From: Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:41:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in  
GROMACS

Quoting OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Ok, it should be better to describe the problem in a more detailed way.
 I got this structure from Swiss-modeler program. I do not think I have a
 problem with the starting structure because I truncated the protein at some
 PRO residue, and got no error at all. So, there is something wrong about the
 nomenclature of the N terminus. I read things in the link, searched the web
 and made some discussion with my friend, but I could not find the source of
 the error :)

So have I got it correct that you truncated the N-terminus originally, and are
now adding residues back?  It still suggests to me that you've generated a poor
starting structure; the nomenclature should not be causing the issue.  Identify
which bonds pdb2gmx is warning you about (and the atoms involved), and evaluate
them with a viewer (VMD, etc).  Likely the model you've constructed has some
non-physical attributes.

-Justin


 Thank you Justin

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:25:11 -0400
 Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in
 GROMACS

 Quoting OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I already indicated the problem that I have. If I put an N prefix to the
  first residue, I get warning of having long bonds. It has been indicated
 in
  the mail.Moreover, these long bonds can not be minimized during the
  minimization step. Although I put a relatively higher tolerance for the
 force
  on atoms.

 Alright, that makes more sense.  You didn't say before that you couldn't
 resolve
 the long bonds by minimization.  It seemed that you were asking again about
 the
 N-terminal nomenclature.  It sounds like your starting structure has
 problems,
 but without knowing more I can't comment on that.  Is it something you've
 built, something from the RCSB, etc?

 Have a look at your structure and the mdrun output (md.log, in particular) to
 see if you can determine where things are falling apart based on specific
 warnings (LINCS, etc.)

 -Justin

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
  Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:42:55 -0400
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] error with pdb2gmx when using AMBER ff in GROMACS
 
  Quoting OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Hi all,
  
   I am trying to use AMBER ff in GROMACS. I have followed the steps that
 are
   given in the  http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/  link.
  
   The first residue of the protein is GLN. I put an N prefix to this
 residue.
   The pdg2gmx works well except giving an warning of long bond between some
   atoms.
  
   In contrast, if I have not put any prefix to GLN, then, the following
 error
   appears:
   +++
   WARNING: atom H is missing in residue GLN 1 in the pdb file
   You might need to add atom H to the hydrogen database of residue GLN
   in the file ff???.hdb (see the manual)
  
   ---
   Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
   Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 697
  
   Fatal error:
   There were 1 missing atoms in molecule Protein, if you want to use this
   incomplete topology anyhow, use the option -missing
   +++
  
   I looked at both the .rtp and .hdb files, but everything seems to be
  correct.
  
   Does anybody face with a similar problem?
 
  If it is an N-terminal residue, it needs to be preceded by an 'N' (i.e.,
  NGLN),
  and likewise for C-terminal residues, CXXX.  This is in the documentation
  from
  the AMBER ports at the link you cite above, and the link I already provided
  you.
 
  So what's the problem?
 
  -Justin
 
  
   Thanks in advance
   Ozge Engin
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[gmx-users] residue names for AMBER ff in GROMACS

2008-03-30 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I had a problem of converting of definition of residue names of AMBER96 ff in 
GROMACS package.

Although I changed the residue names acc. to those defined in AMBER96 ff in my 
PDB file, I had the following error: (I have searched the mailing archieves for 
this error.)

WARNING: atom H is missing in residue GLN 1 in the pdb fileYou might need to 
add atom H to the hydrogen database of
residue GLN in the file ff???.hdb (see the manual).

I looked at both .rtp and hdb files in order to investigate whether there are 
missing residues in these files, but  the GLN residue name and the 
corresponding H names of this residue have been defined in .rtp and 
.hdb,respectively.

So, what may be  the problem?

Thanks in advance



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[gmx-users] transfer of AMBER ion definitions to the ions.itp file

2008-03-29 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am trying to use AMBER96 ff under GROMACS package. I read the suggestions 
that were given at http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/.
It has been stated that if any ion-related GROMACS tools will be used, then the 
AMBER ion definition to the ions.itp file should be added.
So, does it mean that, I will copy the ions definitions that were given in the 
ffamber96.rtp file to the ions.itp file?
I am a little bit confused because the definition of ions in AMBER is 
completely different from those of OPLS and GROMOS ff.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Re: [gmx-users] transfer of AMBER ion definitions to the ions.itp file

2008-03-29 Thread OZGE ENGIN
You are right, Justin. I simply incorporated the corresponding terms to the 
ions.itp file by relying on the definition types made for GROMOS and OPLS ffs.



-Original Message-
From: Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:54:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] transfer of AMBER ion definitions to the ions.itp file

Quoting OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all,

 I am trying to use AMBER96 ff under GROMACS package. I read the suggestions
 that were given at http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/.
 It has been stated that if any ion-related GROMACS tools will be used, then
 the AMBER ion definition to the ions.itp file should be added.
 So, does it mean that, I will copy the ions definitions that were given in
 the ffamber96.rtp file to the ions.itp file?
 I am a little bit confused because the definition of ions in AMBER is
 completely different from those of OPLS and GROMOS ff.

I don't see how these definitions are completely different.  Use either of
these sections (OPLS or GROMOS) in ions.itp as a guide and add the appropriate
sections for AMBER96.  Using the OPLS definitions will be most directly
analogous in terms of how the atom types are defined.

-Justin


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[gmx-users] changing the time step with tpbconv

2008-03-21 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing an 80-ns simulation. During the optimization of the parameters 
that were used in this run, I had performed some small test simulations, and 
used short frequency values to write the velocities. Unfortunately, I did not 
change this value into a bigger one before starting the main (longer) 
simulation. Consequently, I want to change the time step and use tpbconv to 
restart.

Is there any way to do that?

Thanks in advance...
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Re: Re: [gmx-users] changing the time step with tpbconv

2008-03-21 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you David, for your quick reply. However, I could not understand the 
reason why I have to  turn on unconstrained_start option. 



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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:03:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] changing the time step with tpbconv

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am performing an 80-ns simulation. During the optimization of the 
 parameters that were used in this run, I had performed some small test 
 simulations, and used short frequency values to write the velocities. 
 Unfortunately, I did not change this value into a bigger one before starting 
 the main (longer) simulation. Consequently, I want to change the time step 
 and use tpbconv to restart. 
 
 Is there any way to do that?
not with tpbconv, but with grompp -t -e -s -o you can do the same (with 
a new mdp file where you have to turn on unconstrained_start and to turn 
off gen_vel).

 
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[gmx-users] problem with grompp (that is used instead of tpbconv)

2008-03-21 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi David,

I did what you suggested but encountered with a problem similar to one 
encountered by tpbconv command.

I got the following error:

Reading frame   4 time 8000.000
WARNING: Incomplete frame: nr 40397 time 8079.4
---
Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: grompp.c, line: 542

Fatal error:
Can not start from an incomplete frame
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[gmx-users] pbc on the xy direction

2008-03-10 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing an air/water interface simulation and I want to implement 
anisotropic pbc condition (pbc on the xy direction) to my system.
I have searched the mailing-list but could not find an appropriate answer. In 
the manual, two options are given for -pbc (xyz and no) .

How can I implement it to my system? I use Gromacs 3.3.1 version.

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] procedure for creating an S-S bridge

2008-03-03 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you Mark, but I am a little bit confused.

In the link you sent to me, http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/specbond.dat, the 
disulphide bond is described in the specbond.dat file (in the first line). 
However, the following sentence is written under the given table: 

To describe new possible special bonds, such as disulfides, so that pdb2gmx 
can generate them for you, you should add new lines similar to these example 
lines, and update the counter in the first line. 

So, I understood that the description made within the table does not describe 
the Cys-Cys bond. Then, what does it represent?  
After I used the pdb2gmx with -ss option, the type of Cys is given as CYSH in 
the .gro file. 

So, which one is true?

Additionaly, I think, this type of information is not enough to create a 
disulphide bond. My cysteine residues are not directed to each other for making 
a Cys-Cys bond. So, what types of steps do I have to follow ? There are papers, 
of course, in which these types of bonds are made, but the description is not 
made properly. 

Thanks in advance




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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] procedure for creating an S-S bridge

 Hi all,

 I want to create an S-S bond within my peptide. So, I used the CYSH type
 cysteine residue and pdb2gmx with -ss option. However, I saw that the S-S
 bridge was formed between the ARG-CYS pair but not between the CYS-CYS
 pair.

That's not possible with the unmodified form of specbond.dat - you are
probably seeing a visualization artefact
http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Trajectory_Visualisation#Topology_bonds_vs_Rendered_bonds.

 So, I think -ss option with pdb2gmx is not enough to make this bond. What
 additional steps do I follow to construct this bond ?

Check out http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/specbond.dat

Mark

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Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] procedure for creating an S-S bridge

2008-03-03 Thread OZGE ENGIN
So, from the explanation made within table I understood that after selecting 
-ss option, I would see the type of cys as CYS2 in the constructed .gro file as 
well as in the .top file since the CYS2 name appears in the 8 th and 9 th 
columns and they are described as the new name for residue A and residue B.

So, I should perform a preliminary simulation in order to make the 
corresponding cysteine residue within the cutoff?

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Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] procedure for creating an S-S bridge

 Thank you Mark, but I am a little bit confused.

 In the link you sent to me,
 http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/specbond.dat, the disulphide bond is
 described in the specbond.dat file (in the first line). However, the
 following sentence is written under the given table:

 To describe new possible special bonds, such as disulfides, so that
 pdb2gmx can generate them for you, you should add new lines similar to
 these example lines, and update the counter in the first line. 

 So, I understood that the description made within the table does not
 describe the Cys-Cys bond. Then, what does it represent?

What do you think the second line of the file describes?

 After I used the pdb2gmx with -ss option, the type of Cys is given as CYSH
 in the .gro file.

... and the pdb2gmx output doesn't report making a special bond, and using
pdb2gmx without the -ss option produces the same output. Your conclusion
here is...?

 So, which one is true?

 Additionaly, I think, this type of information is not enough to create a
 disulphide bond. My cysteine residues are not directed to each other for
 making a Cys-Cys bond. So, what types of steps do I have to follow ? There
 are papers, of course, in which these types of bonds are made, but the
 description is not made properly.

See the final line of the specbond.dat page. You'll need to change your
input structure. Think about distance restraints and a preparatory MD
simulation.

Mark

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[gmx-users] incorporation of distance restraint into the topology file

2008-03-03 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I have a question regarding the creating a disulphide bridge. If I want to 
impose a position restraint on this bond how can I incorporate it into the 
topology file? It is explained in the manual but the explanation for the last 
three columns is not clear. I could not decide to put what numbers into these 
columns.

P.S: I use Gromacs 3.3.1

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] problem with exchange probabilities in remd

2008-02-24 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you for your suggestions Mark and David. 

I have read papers you mentioned. Moreover, I also read the Berk Hess's paper 
in which the NPT  NVT remd was compared (JMB 354/173-183). 

Since I have not  a high T within my temperature distribution (the highest one 
is around 320K), there will be no large pressure input. In Berk's paper, it was 
stated that the fluctuation in volume is negligible in NPT simulation. However, 
due to the low density value at high T, the energy of the system will be high 
leading to a decrease in the overlapping of energy distribution as well as the 
exchange probabilities.

I am looking forward to the implementation of NVT within the temperature 
generator :-)



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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:34:51 +1100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with exchange probabilities in remd

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am performing a remd simulation of a peptide+water system. I have tried 
 different temperature distributions. I am using an NVT ensemble. My 
 temperature coupling constant is 0.1 ps.
 
 The problem is that upon increasing the temperature difference between the 
 two replicas more than two (290==294), the exchange probability decreases 
 sharply, app. to 0.03. 

Yep. That's normal for decent-sized explicit-solvent REMD. You can 
choose a lowest temperature spacing that isn't an integer, of course.

 I have changed the exchange frequency in order to get a better exchange 
 probabilities. However, it has not affected the overall exchange 
 probabilities so much. 

The frequency is independent of the probability, at least until you get 
to periods so short that successive attempts are correlated. See Periole 
and Mark, J Chem Phys 126 014903, and for a counter-view, Sindhikara, 
Meng and Roitberg J Chem Phys 128 024103. Both frequency and probability 
affect the exchange acceptance rate, of course.

 Is there anybody who has encountered such a situation?

Yep. Consider seriously how big a temperature range you might need.
There's discussion out there that the increased-sampling effect of the
increased temperature range is outweighed by the ability of the replicas
   to sort themselves as a function of T. See Periole paper above. Thus,
there's no need to go to 800K, like you see implicit-solvent REMD
achieve. 373K is enough to start denaturing proteins in cooking, after
all :-)

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[gmx-users] which type of cysteine residue?

2008-02-23 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I want to make the cysteine residues of my peptide to make a disulphide bridge 
with each other. So, what type of cysteine residue should I use? There are 4 
possibilities. CYS, CYSH, CYS1, CYS2. The last two seems to be the same in 
respect of atomic charges, bond types but not parameters for dihedral angles.

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[gmx-users] problem with exchange probabilities in remd

2008-02-23 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing a remd simulation of a peptide+water system. I have tried 
different temperature distributions. I am using an NVT ensemble. My temperature 
coupling constant is 0.1 ps.

The problem is that upon increasing the temperature difference between the two 
replicas more than two (290==294), the exchange probability decreases sharply, 
app. to 0.03.

I have changed the exchange frequency in order to get a better exchange 
probabilities. However, it has not affected the overall exchange probabilities 
so much.

Is there anybody who has encountered such a situation?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Re: [gmx-users] distance options for g_cluster

2008-02-17 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you Mark for your feedbacks. 
There is one more point that is not clear to me for the output of g_cluster, In 
the second column of the cluster.log of g_cluster, the same rmsd values are 
indicated for different clusters. What does it mean? Although these clusters 
have the same cut-off value, they are grouped in different clusters, Why?

Thank you.

 

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Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:35:20 +1100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] distance options for g_cluster

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to understand what type of distance can be used with g_cluster? 
 
 In the manual, it is written that  RMS deviation after fitting or RMS 
 deviation of atom-pair distances can be used to define the distance between 
 structures in the first paragraph. 
 However, in the other options part, two options are indicated for 
 -dista option, which indicates the type of distance that will be used with  
 g_cluster. They are RMSD of distances or RMS deviation. Consequently, the 
 information in the first paragraph does not coincide with that given in the 
 other options part for -dista option. 
 
 Maybe I could not understand. Could anyone explain this in a clearer way, 
 please?

I agree that it is not very clear what is meant in the documentation, 
and I have wondered myself what it means. This is one of the reasons 
that the source code is made available.

I had a quick look, and -dista yes looks like it implements the RMS 
deviation of atom-pair distances quoted above. That is, it forms an 
atom-pair distance matrix for each structure in the trajectory, and then 
does an all-against-all root-mean-square comparison of those matrices to 
generate the structure comparison matrix for clustering. You'd be well 
advised to verify that yourself. It's all in src/tools/gmx_cluster.c

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is made available.

I had a quick look, and -dista yes looks like it implements the RMS
deviation of atom-pair distances quoted above. That is, it forms an
atom-pair distance matrix for each structure in the trajectory, and then
does an all-against-all root-mean-square comparison of those
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Re: [gmx-users] Stanford workshop april 7-8

2008-02-16 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Erik,

Did you put up a registration page for the workshop? 
Could you give information, if there is any, about the workshop that will be 
held in Göttingen? I am outside of the countries you mentioned :)
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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:13:19 +0100
Subject: [gmx-users] Stanford workshop april 7-8

Hi again,

Quick update:

I've finally settled the block room reservations at the guest house  
($89 for singles, $119 for doubles), and will try to put up a  
registration page in a couple of hours.

I think I have a solution to keep it reasonably fair just in case  
there's overwhelming interest:

In the first round I'll simply let everybody register until tuesday  
night (PST) next week, and if by then there are more people than slots  
(~30) we will have to draw randomly, but give people from US/Canada/ 
Mexico priority.  Hopefully Europeans will get another chance in  
Göttingen soon :-)

 From wednesday any possible remaining slots will be filled on a first-
come, first-served, basis.

Cheers,

Erik


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[gmx-users] distance options for g_cluster

2008-02-16 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am trying to understand what type of distance can be used with g_cluster?

In the manual, it is written that  RMS deviation after fitting or RMS deviation 
of atom-pair distances can be used to define the distance between structures in 
the first paragraph.
However, in the other options part, two options are indicated for
-dista option, which indicates the type of distance that will be used with  
g_cluster. They are RMSD of distances or RMS deviation. Consequently, the 
information in the first paragraph does not coincide with that given in the 
other options part for -dista option.

Maybe I could not understand. Could anyone explain this in a clearer way, 
please?

Thanks in advance




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Re: Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output of g_cluster

2008-02-15 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you very much Mark, it is clear to me now! 

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Subject: Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output of 
g_cluster

So we're expecting a histogram of an all-against-all RMSD calculation over 
3000-odd elements. So we should expect that around 3000*3000*0.5 entries exist 
in the histogram... that's about 450 entries. That sounds familiar, now :-) 
For 3002 elements, excluding self-comparisons, there are 3001-choose-2 
combinations, i.e. 3001*3000*0.5, which is the number you give below. The 
values in this column are consistent with a histogram.

Mark

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Subject: Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output of 
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 Sorry Mark, the sum of the 2 nd column is 4501500. The frame 
 number is 3002.
 
 
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 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:04:45 +1100
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 output of g_cluster
 
 What's the sum of the second column?
 
 Mark
 
 - Original Message -
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 Date: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:46 am
 Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the 
 output of g_cluster
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 
  Hi Mark,
  
  You are right. While I am writing,most of the things in my 
 mind 
  are lost :)
  
  The actual command line is:
  
  g_cluster -s .tpr -f .xtc -dist 
  
  and it gives a output file named rmsd-dist.xvg. In the first 
  column, the rmsd values are written. However, I can not 
  understand the values in the second column, the title of 
 second 
  column is only indicated. No explanation has been made in the 
  manual. 
  
  The frame number is 3000. One of the numbers on that column 
  exceeds that value.
  
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  Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:11:55 +1100
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output 
  of g_cluster
  
  OZGE ENGIN wrote:
   Hi all,
   
   I have still got the problem with the second column of the 
  output of g_cluster with -dist option. Xavier said that the 
 a.u 
  stands for arbitrary unit and I think it gives the histogram 
 of 
  rmsd value distribution. If so, I can not understand why the 
  total of this column is not equal to the total number of 
  conformations obtained from the simulation.
  
  Well, what is it equal to? How many frames are you using, what 
  are your 
  actual command lines? Can you provide a short excerpt of the 
  .xvg file?
  
  Please consider the point of view of the people of whom you're 
  asking 
  such a question. Unless they're actually fluent with the code 
  and useage 
  of g_cluster, they don't have the answer at their fingertips. 
  However if 
  you give them useful information, they might be able to see 
  things that 
  you can't. If you don't provide useful information, then even 
  users who 
  do have the answer at their fingertips might decide you're not 
  worth 
  their time :-)
  
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[gmx-users] there is no enough information about the implementation of both diagonalization and Monte Carlo methods of g_cluster in the manual

2008-02-15 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I have two questions about the g_cluster.

1)
I want to test the performance of the clustering methods implemented in 
g_cluster. However, although there are some information about the gromos,Jarvis 
Patrick, and single linkage methods both in the manual and on the internet, 
there are no information about the implementation of both the Monte Carlo and 
the diagonalization method.

I know that when diagonalizing a matrix, the eigenvalues are found, and then 
how they are used for the clustering?

2)There are two options for the -dista option of the g_cluster: rmsd of 
distance and RMS deviation. What is the difference between these two?
One of them gives the absolute rmsd of each frame and the other gives the 
relative rmsd according to the average rmsd?

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[gmx-users] rmsd distance and rmsd deviation option for the -dista option of g_cluster

2008-02-15 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

There are two options for the -dista option of the g_cluster: rmsd of distance 
and RMS deviation.
What is the difference between these two?
One of them gives the absolute rmsd of each frame and the other gives the 
relative rmsd according to the average rmsd?

Thank you

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[gmx-users] still got the problem with the output of g_cluster

2008-02-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I have still got the problem with the second column of the output of g_cluster 
with -dist option. Xavier said that the a.u stands for arbitrary unit and I 
think it gives the histogram of rmsd value distribution. If so, I can not 
understand why the total of this column is not equal to the total number of 
conformations obtained from the simulation.

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output of g_cluster

2008-02-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Mark,

You are right. While I am writing,most of the things in my mind are lost :)

The actual command line is:

g_cluster -s .tpr -f .xtc -dist 

and it gives a output file named rmsd-dist.xvg. In the first column, the rmsd 
values are written. However, I can not understand the values in the second 
column, the title of second column is only indicated. No explanation has been 
made in the manual. 

The frame number is 3000. One of the numbers on that column exceeds that value.

-Original Message-
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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:11:55 +1100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output of g_cluster

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have still got the problem with the second column of the output of 
 g_cluster with -dist option. Xavier said that the a.u stands for arbitrary 
 unit and I think it gives the histogram of rmsd value distribution. If so, I 
 can not understand why the total of this column is not equal to the total 
 number of conformations obtained from the simulation.

Well, what is it equal to? How many frames are you using, what are your 
actual command lines? Can you provide a short excerpt of the .xvg file?

Please consider the point of view of the people of whom you're asking 
such a question. Unless they're actually fluent with the code and useage 
of g_cluster, they don't have the answer at their fingertips. However if 
you give them useful information, they might be able to see things that 
you can't. If you don't provide useful information, then even users who 
do have the answer at their fingertips might decide you're not worth 
their time :-)

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Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output of g_cluster

2008-02-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Sorry Mark, the sum of the 2 nd column is 4501500. The frame number is 3002.


-Original Message-
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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:04:45 +1100
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output of g_cluster

What's the sum of the second column?

Mark

- Original Message -
From: OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:46 am
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output of g_cluster
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi Mark,
 
 You are right. While I am writing,most of the things in my mind 
 are lost :)
 
 The actual command line is:
 
 g_cluster -s .tpr -f .xtc -dist 
 
 and it gives a output file named rmsd-dist.xvg. In the first 
 column, the rmsd values are written. However, I can not 
 understand the values in the second column, the title of second 
 column is only indicated. No explanation has been made in the 
 manual. 
 
 The frame number is 3000. One of the numbers on that column 
 exceeds that value.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:11:55 +1100
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] still got the problem with the output 
 of g_cluster
 
 OZGE ENGIN wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I have still got the problem with the second column of the 
 output of g_cluster with -dist option. Xavier said that the a.u 
 stands for arbitrary unit and I think it gives the histogram of 
 rmsd value distribution. If so, I can not understand why the 
 total of this column is not equal to the total number of 
 conformations obtained from the simulation.
 
 Well, what is it equal to? How many frames are you using, what 
 are your 
 actual command lines? Can you provide a short excerpt of the 
 .xvg file?
 
 Please consider the point of view of the people of whom you're 
 asking 
 such a question. Unless they're actually fluent with the code 
 and useage 
 of g_cluster, they don't have the answer at their fingertips. 
 However if 
 you give them useful information, they might be able to see 
 things that 
 you can't. If you don't provide useful information, then even 
 users who 
 do have the answer at their fingertips might decide you're not 
 worth 
 their time :-)
 
 Mark
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[gmx-users] the 2 nd column of the output of g_cluster with -dist option

2008-02-12 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

What does the second column of the output file of g_cluster with -dist option 
stand for? Its title is a.u. I think it is atomic unit? In the manual, it is 
not described.

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] the 2 nd column of the output of g_cluster with -dist option

2008-02-12 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Xavier,

The output file of g_cluster with -dist option then gives the histogram of rmsd 
value distribution, is it?
If it is the case, after plotting these data,I observe that the distribution 
resembles a gaussian type, its mean is located around 0.4 nm. This value is 
bigger compared to yours. Is it feasible? 
I performed my remd simulation in vacuum. It may be the reason?

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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:10:02 +0100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the 2 nd column of the output of g_cluster with -dist  
option

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:55:35 +0200
  OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 What does the second column of the output file of g_cluster with -dist 
option stand for? Its title is a.u. I think it is atomic unit? In the manual, 
it is not described.

I believe a.u. stands for arbitrary unit. It should be the normalized
distribution. You can check by integrating the curve ... should be one.

XAvier

 
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[gmx-users] g_rms , getting rmsd matrix and the histogram of this matrix

2008-02-12 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I have three questions.

1)In order to get the rmsd distribution of all the conformations, I used 
g_rmsd. In the help menu, it is stated that g_rmsd compares the structure given 
by -s and compares it to the others which are given by -f option. Consequently, 
I can not get the rmsd between all pairs of conformations. how can I get the 
rmsd between all of the pairs?

2)How can I get the rmsd matrix? In manual, it is indicated that with option 
-m, you produce a matrix. However, with xv, I can not see the matrix exactly.
3)Is there any specific tool for plotting the histogram of the rmsd matrix?

Thanks in advance

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[gmx-users] exchanged pairs in the log file of a remd simulation

2008-02-03 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing replica exchange MD simulations. Here, I attach the part of a 
log file which gives info about the exchanges made at step 46000 and 47000. It 
is just a test run. As you can see, on the line 2, it is indicated that the 
exchange is made between the rep 1 and rep 2 or between the repl2 and repl3. 
The case is the same for other time steps.
There are no other types of pairs.

Why?


Replica exchange at step 46000 time 92
Line 2: Repl 1 - 2  dE =  3.006e-01
Repl ex  01 x  23 x  45 x  67 x  89 x 10   11 x 12   13
Repl pr.74   1.0   1.0   .70   .40   1.0

Replica exchange at step 47000 time 94
Line 2: Repl 2 - 3  dE =  7.473e-01
Repl ex  0 x  1234 x  56 x  78 x  9   10   11   12   13
Repl pr   .04   .47   1.0   1.0   .65   .60   .34

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] exchanged pairs in the log file of a remd simulation

2008-02-03 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you for your answers! You are right, Mark. I looked at the md1.log file 
and when I looked at the others I saw that there were different pairs other 
than 1-2 and 2-3. 
Consequently, there is no problem then. All the pairs, providing their energies 
are overlapped sufficiently, are exchanged? Is it what is happening?



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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:50:55 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] exchanged pairs in the log file of a remd simulation

 Hi all,

 I am performing replica exchange MD simulations. Here, I attach the part
 of a log file which gives info about the exchanges made at step 46000 and
 47000. It is just a test run. As you can see, on the line 2, it is
 indicated that the exchange is made between the rep 1 and rep 2 or between
 the repl2 and repl3. The case is the same for other time steps.
 There are no other types of pairs.

 Why?


 Replica exchange at step 46000 time 92
 Line 2: Repl 1 - 2  dE =  3.006e-01
 Repl ex  01 x  23 x  45 x  67 x  89 x 10   11 x 12
 13
 Repl pr.74   1.0   1.0   .70   .40   1.0

 Replica exchange at step 47000 time 94
 Line 2: Repl 2 - 3  dE =  7.473e-01
 Repl ex  0 x  1234 x  56 x  78 x  9   10   11   12
 13
 Repl pr   .04   .47   1.0   1.0   .65   .60   .34

I'd guess that you're looking at your *_1.log and thus you're seeing the
numbers for the successful exchanges for only this replica. In the GROMACS
implementation, I guess that the potential energies are only swapped
between current exchange pairs, and not distributed to the whole replica
system. Thus different .log files will probably have different such lines,
because only two of the replicas have the necessary information.

Odd and even pairs are considered for exchange at alternate exchange
attempts, of course, as described in the manual. The 'x' characters denote
succesful exchanges, as you will see documented early on in the log file
(e.g. grep ^Repl  *.log)

Mark

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[gmx-users] Address for the server of a REMD temperature calculator

2008-01-31 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

Somebody has sent a mail which is about the address of a server in which the 
temperatures for a REMD simulation is calculated. However, I can not find this 
mail. Could you sent the address of the server, please?

Thank you


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Re: [gmx-users] Replica Exchange MD using Gromacs

2007-11-30 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Monica,

I had not found a detailed tutorial about it; however, you can search for 
papers in which the simulations are performed via REMD.This will be helpful.

Ozge.

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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:04:07 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [gmx-users] Replica Exchange MD using Gromacs

Dear All,

I am trying REMD for the first time using Gromacs. But I am not finding
any much helpful material regarding the replica exchange using Gromacs.
Can anyone who has done REMD please let me know about any good tutorial
where I can understand the way this replica exchange work in gromacs and
the right protocol to do so..

Thanks a lot in advance..

Regards,
Monika
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Hyderabad.


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[gmx-users] The fifth column of the output file of g_sas command

2007-11-27 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I have a question about the output file of g_sas. The fifth column corresponds 
to Solvation free energy.

I selected the whole peptide for analyzing. It did not take negative value, but 
rather it took positive values.
As it takes larger + values, it means that the peptide or group under 
consideration interacts with solvent (water) favorably?

Thanks in advance

Ozge.

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[gmx-users] Problem with replica exchange in vacuum

2007-11-25 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing a REMD simulation in vacuum. Although I minimized the energy of 
each initial replica by using a stringent convergence criterion, after the the 
third attempt, the system exploided because of a huge deviation in the Lincs 
algorithm.

Although I started to the simulation via low-energy structures, what may be the 
probable reason for this? Is it because of vacuum?

Thank you

Ozge



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[gmx-users] Problem with replica exchange in vacuum

2007-11-25 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing a REMD simulation in vacuum. Although I minimized the energy of 
each initial replica by using a stringent convergence criterion, after the the 
third attempt, the system exploided because of a huge deviation in the Lincs 
algorithm.

Although I started to the simulation via low-energy structures, what may be the 
probable reason for this? Is it because of vacuum?

Thank you

Ozge



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[gmx-users] Neutralizing the total charge of the system in vacuum

2007-11-24 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing a simulation in vacuum. The peptide has  nonzero charge, so I 
attempted to neutralize the total charge via genion;however as it is known, it 
asks for a continuous group for replacing, but I have no solvent molecules for 
the replacement.

How can I neutralize the total charge while performing simulations in vacuum?

Thanks in advance

Oz.

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Re: Re: RE: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD

2007-11-23 Thread OZGE ENGIN
This time I used the following command line:

mpirun -np 8 mdrun_mpi -s simul0.tpr -replex 2500 -reseed -1 -multi 8. 

I got the following error:

Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 3.3.99_development_20070413
Source code file: gmxfio.c, line: 706

Can not open file:
simul0_md0.tpr
---

Don't Eat That Yellow Snow (F. Zappa)

Error on node 0, will try to stop all the nodes
Halting parallel program mdrun_mpi on CPU 0 out of 8.

I could not understand this error because I do not have such a file: 
simul0_md0.tpr.


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To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:58:48 +0100
Subject: Re: RE: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD

You need to supply the -np option.
In Gromacs 3.3 you don't need to set the -multi option,
and -multi does not take an argument.
If you use the CVS head branch, you need to set -np and -multi
both with an argument.

Berk.

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Subject: Re: RE: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange 
MD
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:44:47 +0200

Hi Berk,

I indicated the number of replicas with -multi option. In additon, I have 
compiled Gromacs with MPI support.

I used the following command line:

mdrun -s simul0.tpr -multi 16 -reseed -1 -replex 2500

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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:36:57 +0100
Subject: RE: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD




 From: OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD
 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:30:53 +0200
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am performing replica exchange molecular dynamics simulation(REMD). I
 have 16 replicas each of which has a peptide with different conformation.
 After obtaining .tpr files (at desired temperatures) for each replicas, I
 loaded them via mdrun, but I got the following error:
 
 Fatal error:
 Nothing to exchange with only one replica
 ---
 
 Why?

I guess there are two possibilities.
Or you did not use the -np option of mdrun to set the number of replicas,
or you have not compiled Gromacs with MPI support.

Berk.

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[gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD

2007-11-23 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi All,

I am performing replica exchange molecular dynamics simulation(REMD). I have 16 
replicas each of which has a peptide with different conformation. After 
obtaining .tpr files (at desired temperatures) for each replicas, I loaded them 
via mdrun, but I got the following error:

Fatal error:
Nothing to exchange with only one replica
---

Why?

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Re: RE: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD

2007-11-23 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Berk,

I indicated the number of replicas with -multi option. In additon, I have 
compiled Gromacs with MPI support.

I used the following command line:

mdrun -s simul0.tpr -multi 16 -reseed -1 -replex 2500

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Subject: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:30:53 +0200

Hi All,

I am performing replica exchange molecular dynamics simulation(REMD). I 
have 16 replicas each of which has a peptide with different conformation. 
After obtaining .tpr files (at desired temperatures) for each replicas, I 
loaded them via mdrun, but I got the following error:

Fatal error:
Nothing to exchange with only one replica
---

Why?

I guess there are two possibilities.
Or you did not use the -np option of mdrun to set the number of replicas,
or you have not compiled Gromacs with MPI support.

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Re: Re: RE: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD

2007-11-23 Thread OZGE ENGIN
This time, I used the following command line:

mpirun -np 8 mdrun_mpi -s simul0_md.tpr -replex 2500 -reseed -1 -multi 8

but I got the following error:

Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 3.3.99_development_20070413
Source code file: gmxfio.c, line: 706

Can not open file:
simul00.tpr
---

Shit Happens (Pulp Fiction)

Error on node 0, will try to stop all the nodes
Halting parallel program mdrun_mpi on CPU 0 out of 8

Although I do not have such a file: simul00.tpr


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From: Berk Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:58:48 +0100
Subject: Re: RE: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD

You need to supply the -np option.
In Gromacs 3.3 you don't need to set the -multi option,
and -multi does not take an argument.
If you use the CVS head branch, you need to set -np and -multi
both with an argument.

Berk.

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MD
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:44:47 +0200

Hi Berk,

I indicated the number of replicas with -multi option. In additon, I have 
compiled Gromacs with MPI support.

I used the following command line:

mdrun -s simul0.tpr -multi 16 -reseed -1 -replex 2500

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 From: OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] problem with mdrun performing replica exchange MD
 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:30:53 +0200
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am performing replica exchange molecular dynamics simulation(REMD). I
 have 16 replicas each of which has a peptide with different conformation.
 After obtaining .tpr files (at desired temperatures) for each replicas, I
 loaded them via mdrun, but I got the following error:
 
 Fatal error:
 Nothing to exchange with only one replica
 ---
 
 Why?

I guess there are two possibilities.
Or you did not use the -np option of mdrun to set the number of replicas,
or you have not compiled Gromacs with MPI support.

Berk.

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[gmx-users] trjconv does not work

2007-11-19 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I want to extract some frames from the whole trajectory. So, I used -trjconv 
with (b) and (e) options.

P.S: I use the Gromacs 3.3.1 version.

But I got the following error:

Select a group: 0
Selected 0: 'System'
Last frame -1 time0.000

Precision of traj.xtc is 0.001 (nm)

WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 10

What is the problem?

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] trjconv does not work

2007-11-19 Thread OZGE ENGIN
The command line ws the following:

trjconv -s peptide_b4md.gro -f traj.xtc -b 0.1 -e 0.2 -o file_1.pdb

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:10:51 +0100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] trjconv does not work

Dear Ozge,

What was the command line exactly?

Ran.

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi all,

 I want to extract some frames from the whole trajectory. So, I used -trjconv 
 with (b) and (e) options.

 P.S: I use the Gromacs 3.3.1 version.

 But I got the following error:

 Select a group: 0
 Selected 0: 'System'
 Last frame -1 time0.000

 Precision of traj.xtc is 0.001 (nm)

 WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 10

 What is the problem?
   

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] trjconv does not work

2007-11-19 Thread OZGE ENGIN
The command line was the following:

trjconv -s peptide_b4md.gro -f traj.xtc -b 0.1 -e 0.2 -o file_1.pdb

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:10:51 +0100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] trjconv does not work

Dear Ozge,

What was the command line exactly?

Ran.

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi all,

 I want to extract some frames from the whole trajectory. So, I used -trjconv 
 with (b) and (e) options.

 P.S: I use the Gromacs 3.3.1 version.

 But I got the following error:

 Select a group: 0
 Selected 0: 'System'
 Last frame -1 time0.000

 Precision of traj.xtc is 0.001 (nm)

 WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 10

 What is the problem?
   

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] trjconv does not work

2007-11-19 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Of course, I am performing a 40 ns simulation, and 14 ns of it has been 
finished. 

What may be the problem? I know, I can extract specific frames via VMD, but it 
changes atom types after saving in pdb format.

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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] trjconv does not work

I see. Do you have any structure between t=0.1ps and t=0.2ps?

Ran.

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 The command line ws the following:

 trjconv -s peptide_b4md.gro -f traj.xtc -b 0.1 -e 0.2 -o file_1.pdb

   

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[gmx-users] (no subject)

2007-11-09 Thread OZGE ENGIN
I want to use replica exchange method. After obtaining all files at different 
temperatures, how can I load the e.g 4 separate replica files to the mdrun 
command?
I could not find any information about it.

Thank you

Oz.

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[gmx-users] Performing simulation at air/water interface

2007-11-05 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing a simulation of peptide at air/water interface.

The box vectors are: x,y,z where 2x=2y=z. After loading the trajectory to the 
vmd, I realized that water molecules moved out of bulk water in the z 
direction: into the vacuum. However, the peptide also moved out of the bulk 
water, but at this time, not in the z direction but in the x direction.

Although I expanded the box only in the z direction, what may be the probable 
reason for this?

Ozge.

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] Performing simulation at air/water interface

2007-11-05 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you for your suggestion, but I have already tried it. 

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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:33:26 -0200
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Performing simulation at air/water interface

Regarding the peptide moving out of the box, it is only a visualization
artifact.
Try trjconv -pbc inbox.


2007/11/5, OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all,

 I am performing a simulation of peptide at air/water interface.

 The box vectors are: x,y,z where 2x=2y=z. After loading the trajectory to
 the vmd, I realized that water molecules moved out of bulk water in the z
 direction: into the vacuum. However, the peptide also moved out of the bulk
 water, but at this time, not in the z direction but in the x direction.

 Although I expanded the box only in the z direction, what may be the
 probable reason for this?

 Ozge.

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[gmx-users] Placing a peptide at the air/water interface

2007-11-04 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing a simulation of an amphilic peptide at air/water interface. I 
want to start to simulation in which the peptide is placed at the interface.

I changed the center of the system so that the center is now located at 
interface. Then, I used editconf command with -c option in order to center the 
peptide. I expect to place the peptide at interface. However, instead of 
placing it at interface, the center of the box is changed its old values.

How can I place the peptide at air/water interface before starting a simulation?

Thanks in advance

Ozge.



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[gmx-users] Placing a peptide at the air/water interface

2007-11-04 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am performing a simulation of an amphilic peptide at air/water interface. I 
want to start to simulation in which the peptide is placed at the interface.

I changed the center of the system so that the center is now located at 
interface. Then, I used editconf command with -c option in order to center the 
peptide. I expect to place the peptide at interface. However, instead of 
placing it  at interface, the center of the box is changed its old values.

How can I place the peptide at air/water interface before starting a simulation?

Thanks in advance

Ozge.

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Re: [gmx-users] Placing a peptide at the air/water interface

2007-11-04 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Mark,

I am so sorry, but I erased your mail before reading it. So, could you please 
send the mail one more time? It is important to me.

Thank you very much

Ozge

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From: OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:36:02 +0200
Subject: [gmx-users] Placing a peptide at the air/water interface

Hi all,

I am performing a simulation of an amphilic peptide at air/water interface. I 
want to start to simulation in which the peptide is placed at the interface. 

I changed the center of the system so that the center is now located at 
interface. Then, I used editconf command with -c option in order to center the 
peptide. I expect to place the peptide at interface. However, instead of 
placing it at interface, the center of the box is changed its old values. 

How can I place the peptide at air/water interface before starting a simulation?

Thanks in advance

Ozge.



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[gmx-users] Addition of ions in vacuum simulations

2007-10-18 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am simulating a charged peptide in vacuum. I want to neutralize my system by 
using genion command,and as expected it asks me a continuous solvent group for 
the replacement; however, I have no solvents.

How can I add ions to my system if I am in vacuum? or Is it necessary to add 
ions while performing simulations in vacuum?

Thanks in advance

Ozge

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] Addition of ions in vacuum simulations

2007-10-18 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Mark,

I think, it is not a chemistry question exactly. 
Genion command asks for a group whose atoms are replaced with ions.
I have no solvent molecules in my system. 
In this respect, how can I incorporate ions into my system? 

Thanks

Ozge

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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:49:15 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Addition of ions in vacuum simulations

 Hi all,

 I am simulating a charged peptide in vacuum. I want to neutralize my
 system by using genion command,and as expected it asks me a continuous
 solvent group for the replacement; however, I have no solvents.

 How can I add ions to my system if I am in vacuum? or Is it necessary to
 add ions while performing simulations in vacuum?

This is a chemistry question that will depend on your protein and what
you're trying to study. In some cases you might also consider modifying
the chemical groups so that there is not an ion there.

Mark

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[gmx-users] Tool for visualizing disulphide bonds

2007-10-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

Is there any tool for the visualization of disulphide bonds along the whole 
trajectory?

Regards,

Ozge

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing 
archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum 
simulations.  

Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

Thanks in advance 

Ozge

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Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.
 
Regards,
Yang Ye



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Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass. Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


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Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN

Sorry, but I have to ask some more questions. I have just started to perform 
simulations in vacuum. I can understand not using of PME in vacuum simulations; 
however, I can not understand the sentence you wrote :
'rotation is recomended.' COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible.
Is it related to conservation of angular momentum?

Thank you very much!

Oz.
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Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

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Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing 
archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum 
simulations.  

Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

 It is not because of this reason, it is due to PBC. Simulation in vacuum is 
 usually done without PBC, Rotation is recommended.
 COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible, so if Linear works for 
 you, you may use it.

Thanks in advance 

Ozge

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Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.

Regards,
Yang Ye



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Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass. Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


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[gmx-users] Charge of CH2r atoms in Gromos 53A6 force-field

2007-09-04 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I have read the manual of Gromos force field with parameter set 53A6. I am 
trying to get the topology file of cyclohexane molecule.

In a paper which defined the parameters of Gromos 53A5 and 53A6 force-fields, 
it is said that atoms that are not listed have a zero charge, and the charge of 
CH2r atoms have not been given in that list. So,to be sure I want to ask again. 
The charge of CH2r atoms (CH2 groups in a ring) have a zero charge in Gromos 
53A6 force-field?

thanks
Oz.

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[gmx-users] r_list and r_coulomb values while using PME

2007-09-01 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I can not understand why it is required to take same values for  both r_list 
and r_coulomb parameters when using PME for calculation of electrostatic 
interactions?

I read archieve, and gromacs manual. In archieve, similar question had been 
posted, but not replied yet.

Thanks in advance

Oz.

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] r_list and r_coulomb values while using PME

2007-09-01 Thread OZGE ENGIN
'The force is not the derivative of the potential', is it due to the types of 
calculations performed in PME, using of FFT for reciprocal sum? Because it does 
not matter while using reaction-field method. 
Sorry, this phenomenon is  a little complicated to me :) 

Thanks for your attention!

Oz.

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OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I can not understand why it is required to take same values for  both r_list 
 and r_coulomb parameters when using PME for calculation of electrostatic 
 interactions?
 
 I read archieve, and gromacs manual. In archieve, similar question had been 
 posted, but not replied yet.
 
 Thanks in advance

if rlist  rcoulomb you  will have a twin range interaction, meaning the 
atom pair interactions for distance between these two will be computed 
every nstlist steps only, while the interaction beyond rcoulomb will be 
computed at each time step. this will lead to bad energy conservation, 
since the force is not the derivative of the potential.
 
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Re: Re: [gmx-users] r_list and r_coulomb values while using PME

2007-09-01 Thread OZGE ENGIN
So, using twin-range cut-off does not violate the energy conservation for RC 
method, but it violates for PME method. Is this the case ?


-Original Message-
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 14:48:03 +0200
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] r_list and r_coulomb values while using PME

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 'The force is not the derivative of the potential', is it due to the types of 
 calculations performed in PME, using of FFT for reciprocal sum? Because it 
 does not matter while using reaction-field method. 
 Sorry, this phenomenon is  a little complicated to me :) 


this is only when you combine twin range (rcoulomb  rlist) and PME. 
then the forces for a certain distance range are not computed at each 
time step while the others are. you may want to (re)read the PME papers 
and/or the gromacs manual about twin range.
 
 Thanks for your attention!
 
 Oz.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:37:05 +0200
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] r_list and r_coulomb values while using PME
 
 OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi all,

 I can not understand why it is required to take same values for  both r_list 
 and r_coulomb parameters when using PME for calculation of electrostatic 
 interactions?

 I read archieve, and gromacs manual. In archieve, similar question had been 
 posted, but not replied yet.

 Thanks in advance
 
 if rlist  rcoulomb you  will have a twin range interaction, meaning the 
 atom pair interactions for distance between these two will be computed 
 every nstlist steps only, while the interaction beyond rcoulomb will be 
 computed at each time step. this will lead to bad energy conservation, 
 since the force is not the derivative of the potential.
 Oz.

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[gmx-users] Appropriate command for measuring density of the whole simulation box along the trajectory

2007-08-28 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I want to measure the density or volume of the whole simulation box not only 
the molecule. I could not find an appropriate command. I found some;however, 
they measured the partial densities across the box.

Thanks in advance...

Ozge

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[gmx-users] Minimization of a box of capped tryptophan (trp)

2007-08-25 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

As you suggest David I used genconf command without -rot option. I minimized a 
single capped trp molecule and got the minimized molecule and used that 
molecule with genconf command in order to create a box.

 Then, I solvated capped trp molecule  within the created box with genbox 
 command. I wanted the box to have a total of 200 capped trp molecules. In 
 this respect, I used -maxsol 200 option. However, the resultant system had 
 only 11 capped trp molecules.

What may be the problem?

Thanks

Oz.


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[gmx-users] Unusual structures generated by GENCONF command and resultant minimization problem

2007-08-24 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi gromacs-users,

I want to simulate a box of that is composed of capped (ACE and NME to N and C 
termini, respectively) tryptophan molecules. 

As a first stage, I minimized single capped trp molecule, and then used it with 
genconf command along with the options -rot ans -nbox. 

In this case, I changed the gro file of capped trp molecule such that it was 
treated as a single molecule rather than three (cappes and the trp molecule 
itself). (It was  necessary to be able to use that molecule with genconf 
command.)

After that, I could obtain a box of trp molecules. However, when I looked at it 
 by using VMD, I saw that some of them had unusual bonds. 
So it caused not to minimization of my system. The steepest descent 
minimization was terminated before the desired criterion was reached. 

Although I used a minimized capped trp molecule with genconf command, the 
resultant box contained some trp molecules that have unusual structures. How 
can I overcome that problem?

Thanks in advance...

Oz.


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[gmx-users] Problem with g_rdf /option com

2007-06-19 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

I want to get the radial distribution of my system which is composed of a box 
of capped alanine residues (CAR). In this respect, I used g_rdf command with 
-com option. I chose one of the CAR s as the first, and the others as the 
second group. In manual, for -com option, it is written that the center of mass 
is chosen only for the first group.

Does it mean that for the second group all the atoms are taken into 
consideration? If so, is there any option for taking the center of masses of 
molecules in the second group?

Thanks

Ozge.

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] adding counter ions

2007-06-12 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Dear Mark,

I had read papers about the simulations of charged systems. You' re right. In 
these studies, the distance between the charged residues have been controlled 
during the simulation. 

In this respect, you suggest me not adding counter ions to the system:

Providing the distance between the oppositely charged residues :-) is not far 
apart than the optimum which means that they are located at such a distance 
that they have the ability to cancel each other. 

Thank you...

Ozge Engin



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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:49:54 +1000
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] adding counter ions

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 My peptide contains two adversely charged residues. I use PME option for the 
 investigation of electrostatic interactions within my system. The total 
 charge of the box must be neutral. Since the system contains adversely 
 charged residues, is it still necessary to add counter ions into the system?

adversely charged doesn't mean the same thing as oppositely charged :-)

While overall periodic cell neutrality has been achieved here, you will
still have separated charges that will attract each other, potentially
distorting your equilibrium state. In a real system, each of these
residues would likely have a counter-ion present closer than the other
residue - but of course you know how far apart these residues are, don't
you?

Mark
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[gmx-users] adding counter ions

2007-06-08 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

My peptide contains two adversely charged residues. I use PME option for the 
investigation of electrostatic interactions within my system. The total charge 
of the box must be neutral. Since the system contains adversely charged 
residues, is it still necessary to add counter ions into the system?

Thanks in advance!

Ozge Engin

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[gmx-users] problem with the output file of g_density

2007-06-04 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Dear gromacs-users,

I have a problem with the output file of g_density. It uses .tpr and .trr files 
in order to make calculations. I have made the .trr file using the parameters 
below. Since total step size is 100 and I have written the coordinates at 
each 50 steps, I expect to have more than 50 values in the output file of 
g_density; but there are only 50. Why is this the case?

Thank in advance ...

Ozge

dt  =  0.002;ps
nsteps  =  100  
nstcomm =  1
nstxout =  50
nstvout =  0
nstfout =  0
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file =
nstlog   = 50
nstenergy = 50


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[gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a charged system

2007-05-22 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I have a problem with position-restrained (pr) dynamics of a charged residue in 
a water box. Up to the position-restrained step, the method worked well; 
however, it gave the following error in the pr step:

Fatal error:
number of coordinates in coordinate file (lysine_b4pr.gro, 767)
 does not match topology (lysine.top, 0)

I could not understand the error because the lysine.top file has already 
contained the appropriate numbers of atoms defined for protein, ion, and 
solvent molecules. Moreover, I used the same topology file in the preceding 
step and it worked. So, what may be the problem?

Thanks in advance!

Ozge Engin


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Re: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a charged system

2007-05-22 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Yes, Sebastien! It ends as you wrote. So, it contains info about the number of 
atoms, and it worked for the previous step. I could not understand the problem 
:(  



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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:27:18 +0100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a charged 
system

It seems your topology does not contain any information about number of 
atoms etc ...

Does your file end with lines like this (for example):

...
[ molecules ]
; Compound   #mol
Protein 1
NA+  12
SOL  1589



OZGE ENGIN a écrit :
 Hi all,

 I have a problem with position-restrained (pr) dynamics of a charged residue 
 in a water box. Up to the position-restrained step, the method worked well; 
 however, it gave the following error in the pr step:

 Fatal error:
 number of coordinates in coordinate file (lysine_b4pr.gro, 767)
  does not match topology (lysine.top, 0)

 I could not understand the error because the lysine.top file has already 
 contained the appropriate numbers of atoms defined for protein, ion, and 
 solvent molecules. Moreover, I used the same topology file in the preceding 
 step and it worked. So, what may be the problem?

 Thanks in advance!

 Ozge Engin


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Re: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a charged system

2007-05-22 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Yes, Sebastien! It ends as you wrote. So, it contains info about the numbers of 
atoms, and it worked for the previous step. I could not understand the problem 
:(



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From: sebastien santini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:27:18 +0100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a charged 
system

It seems your topology does not contain any information about number of 
atoms etc ...

Does your file end with lines like this (for example):

...
[ molecules ]
; Compound   #mol
Protein 1
NA+  12
SOL  1589



OZGE ENGIN a écrit :
 Hi all,

 I have a problem with position-restrained (pr) dynamics of a charged residue 
 in a water box. Up to the position-restrained step, the method worked well; 
 however, it gave the following error in the pr step:

 Fatal error:
 number of coordinates in coordinate file (lysine_b4pr.gro, 767)
  does not match topology (lysine.top, 0)

 I could not understand the error because the lysine.top file has already 
 contained the appropriate numbers of atoms defined for protein, ion, and 
 solvent molecules. Moreover, I used the same topology file in the preceding 
 step and it worked. So, what may be the problem?

 Thanks in advance!

 Ozge Engin


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Re: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a charged system

2007-05-22 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you very much for your attention :) I attached the needed gro and top 
files. 


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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:52:13 +0100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a charged 
system

Maybe you have forget to include something (I don't know exactly what)
...
is it possible to post your top and gro files (attached and zipped) ?

it will be easier to find what happened :P .


OZGE ENGIN a écrit :
 Yes, Sebastien! It ends as you wrote. So, it contains info about the number 
 of atoms, and it worked for the previous step. I could not understand the 
 problem :(  



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 From: sebastien santini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:27:18 +0100
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a 
 charged system

 It seems your topology does not contain any information about number of 
 atoms etc ...

 Does your file end with lines like this (for example):

 ...
 [ molecules ]
 ; Compound   #mol
 Protein 1
 NA+  12
 SOL  1589



 OZGE ENGIN a écrit :
   
 Hi all,

 I have a problem with position-restrained (pr) dynamics of a charged residue 
 in a water box. Up to the position-restrained step, the method worked well; 
 however, it gave the following error in the pr step:

 Fatal error:
 number of coordinates in coordinate file (lysine_b4pr.gro, 767)
  does not match topology (lysine.top, 0)

 I could not understand the error because the lysine.top file has already 
 contained the appropriate numbers of atoms defined for protein, ion, and 
 solvent molecules. Moreover, I used the same topology file in the preceding 
 step and it worked. So, what may be the problem?

 Thanks in advance!

 Ozge Engin





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Re: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a charged system

2007-05-22 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you very much for your attention :) I attached the needed gro and top 
files. 

-Original Message-
From: sebastien santini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:52:13 +0100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a charged 
system

Maybe you have forget to include something (I don't know exactly what)
...
is it possible to post your top and gro files (attached and zipped) ?

it will be easier to find what happened :P .


OZGE ENGIN a écrit :
 Yes, Sebastien! It ends as you wrote. So, it contains info about the number 
 of atoms, and it worked for the previous step. I could not understand the 
 problem :(  



 -Original Message-
 From: sebastien santini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:27:18 +0100
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with position-restrained dynamics of a 
 charged system

 It seems your topology does not contain any information about number of 
 atoms etc ...

 Does your file end with lines like this (for example):

 ...
 [ molecules ]
 ; Compound   #mol
 Protein 1
 NA+  12
 SOL  1589



 OZGE ENGIN a écrit :
   
 Hi all,

 I have a problem with position-restrained (pr) dynamics of a charged residue 
 in a water box. Up to the position-restrained step, the method worked well; 
 however, it gave the following error in the pr step:

 Fatal error:
 number of coordinates in coordinate file (lysine_b4pr.gro, 767)
  does not match topology (lysine.top, 0)

 I could not understand the error because the lysine.top file has already 
 contained the appropriate numbers of atoms defined for protein, ion, and 
 solvent molecules. Moreover, I used the same topology file in the preceding 
 step and it worked. So, what may be the problem?

 Thanks in advance!

 Ozge Engin





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[gmx-users] problem with genion

2007-05-17 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi gromacs-users,

I have a problem with the simulation of a capped lysine residue.I followed the 
tutorial step by step. I added 1 Cl ion into my system in order to neutralize 
the overall charge by using genion, and then used the grompp command and I 
encountered with the following error:

Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 891

Fatal error:
moleculetype CU1+ is redefined


What is the problem?

Thanks in advance

Ozge Engin

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[gmx-users] (no subject)

2007-03-24 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

First of all, I wish, everything is o.k  for everybody  :)

I have a question about the g_rdf command. I read the mailing list but I could 
not find any problem simiIar to mine. I want to calculate the radial 
distribution function of my system which consists of  tripeptide and water 
molecules. In this respect, I select two groups: the peptide as the first and 
the water molecules as the second.Then I plotted the given rdf.xvg file, and 
what I saw was not an expected one. The distribution of particles increased 
with respect to increasing distance. I could not get the values of g(r ) on the 
y axis.The distribution did not show the first and the second peaks that 
correspond to the first and the second hydration shells, respectively.

What is the problem?

Thanks in advance

Ozge Engin

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[gmx-users] problem with g_rdf

2007-03-24 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

First of all, I wish, everything is o.k  for everybody  :)

I have a question about the g_rdf command. I read the mailing list but I could 
not find any problem simiIar to mine. I want to calculate the radial 
distribution function of my system which consists of  tripeptide and water 
molecules. In this respect, I select two groups: the peptide as the first and 
the water molecules as the second.Then I plotted the given rdf.xvg file, and 
what I saw was not an expected one. The distribution of particles increased 
with respect to increasing distance. I could not get the values of g(r ) on the 
y axis.The distribution did not show the first and the second peaks that 
correspond to the first and the second hydration shells, respectively.

What is the problem?

Thanks in advance

Ozge Engin

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Re: [gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solventmolecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

2007-03-19 Thread ozge engin
Thank you very much Anthony,I will try it!

Ozge

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From: Anthony Cruz Balberdi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of
solventmolecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule


Hi Ozge:
You can use a script in VMD to do the work.  In VMD you could make various
atom selection and use it in the script. You
could use something like this:

set outfile [open sol_within_prot.dat w];
set nf [molinfo top get numframes]
set frame0 [atomselect top protein frame 0]
# water calculation loop
for {set i 1 } {$i  $nf } { incr i } {
set prot [atomselect top protein frame $i]
$prot move [measure fit $prot $frame0]
set sol2keep [atomselect top (same residue as (within 2 of protein))
and   resname SOL frame $i]
 set nummolP [$sol2keep num]
set nummolR [expr $nummolP/3]
puts $outfile $frame $nummolR
puts $frame
}
close $outfile

Probably you will need to fit your trajectory if your protein go near the
edge of the box
because VMD does not take in account the PBC in this type of calculation.

Anthony

OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,

I want to calculate the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance
around the protein molecule. I could not
find the appropriate command for this in manual. Moreover, I could not
understand the information for g_sorient.Could
you give me a more detailed explanation for this?

Thanks in advance

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[gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

2007-03-17 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

I want to calculate the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance 
around the protein molecule. I could not find the appropriate command for this 
in manual. Moreover, I could not understand the information for g_sorient.Could 
you give me a more detailed explanation for this?

Thanks in advance

Ozge Engin




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Re: Re: [gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

2007-03-17 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you very much for your attention!

Best regards,
Ozge Engin


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From: Yang Ye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:35:13 +0800
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solvent 
molecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

try g_trjorder. Some code modification may be needed.

Regards,
Yang Ye

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi,

 I want to calculate the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance 
 around the protein molecule. I could not find the appropriate command for 
 this in manual. Moreover, I could not understand the information for 
 g_sorient.Could you give me a more detailed explanation for this? 

 Thanks in advance

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[gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

2007-03-16 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

I want to calculate the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance 
around the protein molecule. I could not find the appropriate command for this 
in manual. Moreover, I could not understand the information for g_sorient.Could 
you give me a more detailed explanation for this?

Thanks in advance

Ozge Engin



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[gmx-users] g_mindist

2007-03-16 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

I forgot to ask  my other question :) When I use the g_mindist command, it asks 
me to select two groups for which the distance will be calculated. I am 
confused for the following: I want to calculate the minimum distance among 
three side chains of my molecule in all combinations. So, if I choose the side 
chain (system 8) option for this command twice, which side chains will be taken 
into consideration?

Thanks in advance

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[gmx-users] problem with trjconv

2007-02-28 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

I have a problem with the trjconv command.

I performed a 30 ns simulation, and wanted to analyze hydrogen bonds formed 
between protein and water molecules. In this respect, I converted the xtc file 
into a pdb file by selecting system option. As you can understand the overall 
file was such a large file that I could not handle it. So, I want to know 
whether there is any possibility to select water molecules within a cutoff 
value or to extract frames within  given time steps? For instance, at every 70 
th step, from 70 ps to 80 ps.

Thanks in advance

Ozge

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] problem with trjconv

2007-02-28 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

First of all, thank you for your attention. I used g_hbond in order to analyze  
hydrogen bonds formed;but, I need a more detailed information. The command that 
you mentioned is capable of giving information about hydrogen bonds formed in 
each frame. However, I want to investigate the exact donor and acceptor groups 
in each frame. In this respect, I converted the xtc file to a pdb file  to get 
all of the coordinates of both water and protein molecules.
What should I do?

Thanks in advance

Ozge

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:52:34 +0100
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with trjconv

Hi Ozge,

Why do you first want to go to a .pdb trajectory? Gromacs comes with
g_hbond, which can analyze hydrogen bonds for you, as well as giving
you an index file containing the atoms involved in hydrogen bonds,
which you can use to extract those from your trajectory. In addition,
g_hbond also does normal contacts, other than hydrogen bonds.

Tsjerk

On 2/28/07, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OZGE ENGIN wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a problem with the trjconv command.
 
  I performed a 30 ns simulation, and wanted to analyze hydrogen bonds formed 
  between protein and water molecules. In this respect, I converted the xtc 
  file into a pdb file by selecting system option. As you can understand the 
  overall file was such a large file that I could not handle it. So, I want 
  to know whether there is any possibility to select water molecules within a 
  cutoff value or to extract frames within  given time steps? For instance, 
  at every 70 th step, from 70 ps to 80 ps.

 If you read the man page for trjconv, you will see an option to do the
 latter. I don't think the former is implemented in the gromacs utilities.

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[gmx-users] Comparison of hydrogen bond number

2007-01-22 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

I could not understand a point related to the calculation of hydrogen bond 
numbers.  In order to be sure, I wrote a script in which the hydrogen bond 
numbers were calculated during the whole trajectory. Firstly, I used the 30.0 
degrees and 0.35 nm criteria, and I compared the results of two: The numbers 
were the same. After that, I tried the 60.0 and 0.35 nm criteria, but this 
time, the numbers were not the same.
What is the problem? I am so confused.

Thanks in advance

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[gmx-users] trjconv(extraction of certain frames)

2007-01-12 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

I have a question about the trjconv command.  I simulated my system for 30 ns, 
and  got 30 frames. Now, I want to extract some frames from that whole: 
beginning at every 70 th ps lengthing to the 80 th ps, and to write them in a 
pdf file.

Thanks in advance!


Özge Engin
Department of Computational Science and Engineering
Koc University

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[gmx-users] hbhelix,hbond,hbnum files

2007-01-11 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,
 
I have the following problem: My system consists of a capped three-alanine 
residues embedded in a box with 750 water molecules. I want to analyze the 
hydrogen bonds formed in each frame. In this respect, I used the -hx option to 
investigate the exact contributors of  the hbonds in each frame since its 
columns give the corresponding residue pairs of the hbonds. At the same time, I 
used the -hbn option, and got the corresponding index file. In the hbhelix.xvg 
file, the n-n+2,n-n+3, and the n-n+4 columns were empty although the hbond.ndx 
file indicated that there were hbonds between the n-n+2,n-n+3,and the n-n+4 
residue pairs, so I understood that the caps were not taken into account  when 
calculating the hbonds for the helix. Relying on such differences, I expected 
to see some differences between these two files (hbhelix.xvg and hbnum.xvg), 
but this was not the case, they were the same. The hbonds between the mentioned 
residue pairs above were not included in the hbnum.xvg file  although they were 
included in the hbond.xvg file. Why is this the case? Why are there any 
differences?

Thanks in advance!

ozge

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