[Goanet] RE: Goa to invite bids for monorail project
[Lawrence Rodrigues] The skybus technology which seems to have been talked about for a long time really sounds too good to be true. It is most unfortunate that they went and goofed up fatally in a relatively simple matter like testing -- not just once, but twice! As a result they could not go to the next stage of developing a live demonstration project in conjunction with the Goa govt a big backer of the system. So they have nothing to show anyone by way of a functioning skybus system. Hence no customers for it. Very sad.
[Goanet] Goans in the USA
Hi Gilbert ! Your last posting on the above subject states that goans where-ever they are should visit each both for mutual benefit, and to expose their kids to Goan culture. This is being done all the time - particularly during the long weekends. Others have also attended events organized by the community, and likewise the hosts have also reciprocated. However, I do not know how a weekend encounter/short holiday could expose kids to Goan culture - all the more so since most of them are so Americanized. A trip to Goa would be a better proposition as they would be "exposed" to all the authentic stuff. Forming a regional body in addition to city/state goan associations is a futile exercise.It is a duplication of efforts, waste of time and money in unnecessary expenses and I am certain many associations would not "buy" the idea. The 1988 International Gaon Convention (IGC) surfaced the subject of forming a Federation of all Goan Associations - a kind of "umbrella" global organization to co-ordinate the activities. The IGC pointed out that goan associations should digress from being mere organizers of social events, and instead attempt to grapple with social issues pertaining to goans and Goa. They also slated GOAS whose oficials/executive committee members are not democratically elected. Unfortunately, the Federation issue never got off the "ground". London-based Rene Barretto- the co-ordinator of World Goa Day- re-surfaced the subject last year, and requested several goans associations to discuss it at their levels. Unfortunately, many associations did not respond - in some cases ostensibly so as the subtle details were not elaborated on. I do not know who is going to make the next move and suggest the formation of a national body. There is no yardstick for comparing goan associations to other social organizations run by immigrants from Europe -many of whose ancestors have lived in the country for close to two centuries and invariably number over a million people. The Groups you mentioned are "Chapters" of National Bodies and in some cases, the officials are either full-time or part- time employees with a few on a volunteer basis. You seem to be under the false impression that many committee members have a lot of free time to organize an event every month. Most committee members belong to other goan groups ,help Goa and goans- directly and indirectly, and also volunteer with their church groups and other community organizations. Getting people to support events is one great problem, but getting volunteers to assist at functions is another hassle. And why would a Christian goan want to attend Diwali which is a Hindu religious festival; would Hindu goans attend an Easter or Christmas event organized by Catholic goans ?. (That is why both goan groups in New York and New Jersey do not celebrate spring flings anymore given the poor turnouts). Organizing a major event like a picnic or dance needs a lot of planning and meetings, and given a shortage of volunteers, some associations are restricted in organizing the number of events per year. Goans have been travelling long and short distances to attend events and the organizers have welcomed them with open arms and shown appreciation for gracing the occasion. You seem to be obsessed with the native groups confining themselves themselves to their old cliques. This is a Toronto "cancer" and pertains only to this Canadian metropolis given the large groups of goans who immigrated from all corners of the globe. This is not a problem of the committee members- who merely run the association on a voluntary basis- but the overrall members per se. If the members do not want to change their attitude, what can the committee members do. Like the New England Goans picnic, many GOAs have open picnics requesting people to bring food and drinks. I attended two picnics in late August in New York and Organizers of both picnics went up a Few "notches by serving soft drinks and alcoholic beverages. Organizers at both picnics gave advanced notice with repeated postings on the goanet website in addition to informing relatives and friends individually - thru electronic email. This gave all those interested picnic goers in the tri-state area ample time to work around their rigid social calendars. Any person or organization can place his posting on the goanet at any time , and have it repeated many times.. I do not undertand how regional co-operation could be more effective than that. rgds. Tony. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: IN A LIGHTER VEIN: Taking a tour of Aldona
Cecil - your posts often make me laugh but this one send me into nostalgia. Until I was in college, my sister and I made the long trek of some 5 buses, two ferries and a taxi ride every summer from my beloved village of Verna to my grandparents' home in Quitula, Aldona. Excitement was at its peak by the time we reached Moira and we couldnt contain ourselves at the bus stop while we waited for the taxi that would take us to Quitula. On seeing the grand old home of my grandparents which I am glad you have included in your tour, we had almost jumped out of the moving car! But I wasn't limited to only Quitula - I have explored every bit of your lovely village because my aunt, a teacher (and whose name brewed so much controversy and attack on this forum - as usual!) was on election duty and tasked us with checking every house and every member. We spent the entire summer doing that! And finally I even had a stint in the St. Thomas Girls high School (Std 7th) and I would love to know where many of my classmates are now! Especially a June Lobo from Cotarbath but now in the UK. I could have my own tours you know! - IN A LIGHTER VEIN: Taking a tour of Aldona - Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> shared his idea of an ideal tour of Aldona, the Bardez village, with Aldona-Net recently:
[Goanet] Re: Churchill, get us an OPINION POLL to liberate Dabolim
My dear Alfred, According to your account Senhor Tom's father came from a family of "a Legislative Council of the Governo do Estado da India". Then, how come he uses words "after the Independencece of Goa ". Did he involve in fact giving Independence to Goa after the brutal annexation of Goa by India in 1961? According to me he's completely ignorant of Goa's history. I'm coming from an unknown ignorant tarvotty family from Comba, Margao and have deep knowledge of Goa's history. About Goa's Hindus I'm referring North Goa's Hindus MGP and BJP, and not that 30% of Hindus have always voted with us. Of course, PI late Arun Bandodkar and late SP Rane we were good friends of mine bosom buddies. Let their soul RIP. Senhor Alfred, just getting facts straight, I wish Churchill Alemao and good friend of mine Mickey Pacheco all the best and would like to work with them for a complete clean out. Mog Assom Agnelo Gomes Goan Paclo Philadelphia, USA In a message dated 9/15/2005 3:12:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My dear Pacló de Goa, Senhor Tom, very much a senhor, was born in Goa quite a bit before you were. A year before I was. About the Portuguese way-of-life in pre-1961 Goa there is not much you can tell him.
[Goanet] Goa - song and flag
Where can I get the words of "I am proud to be a Goan" song. Also, the Goa flag. I have not seen one. Where could I get one.
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goans in USA
SEE CHRIS' COMMENTS BELOW; \ - Original Message - From: "Gilbert Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:20 PM Subject: [Goanet] Re: Goans in USA Hi Tony, Thanks for responding to my post on the above subject. Beyond the superficial, we agree a lot. We both emphasize the need to maintain strong family and community ties, which as you have shown really helps in the time of a crises. So, if one lives in Paradise of Toledo, Ohio, or in the Big Easy of New Orleans, one then needs to make the effort and the trip to the big cities to connect on a regular basis with family, friends and community both for mutual benefit and to expose the kids to Goan culture. Yet, the efforts have to be a two way street. To move the concept of Goan interactions further, I would suggest that city/state Goan associations should develop Regional Goan association which can then coordinate through a national body. This structure is used by many social organizations (Sons Of Italy or German American Club) as well as many professional organizations. While every city/ state organization cannot celebrate all the Goan festivities, coordination within their region will permit one or another celebration in the area about once a month. This may be to celebrate Blessed Joseph Vaz feast or a carnival or a Divali. I have previously posted in cyberGoa a list of about 10-12 Goa-specific celebrations, throughout the year. CHRIS COMMENTS; Could you forward details re your suggestionsof Goa-specific celebrations since I mjust have missed them. As a member of FRIENDS OF GOA NY/NJ I would like to include these in our forthcoming programs. GILBERT CONTINUES-- To encourage individuals to make the long ride and participate, when outsiders come, their efforts should be appreciated and they should be especially welcomed at the social events. This, rather than the same old native groups confining themselves to their old cliques. That is where the committee members can help. After all, what goes around comes around. You may have seen my post congratulating the New England Goans for specifically inviting ALL Goans to their recent picnic. And this for the entrance price of: Bring your own fun, excitment, food and drinks. CHRIS CONTINUES-- We did something akin to what you describe at our Manoher Beach Park in Long Island World Goa Day Picnic. The response and participation exceed all of our expectations. Regards CHRIS VAZ When regional organizations cooperate, these celebrations can be posted well in advance for all to enter the dates on their calendar of social engagements. Kind Regards, GL
[Goanet] Congratulations Mr. Gorgonio Lobo on celebrating 100th birthday
Dear Goanetters, On behalf of all those on Goanet it gives me great pleasure to congratulate Mr. Gorgonio Lobo on celebrating his 100th birthday in Goa. Mr. Lobo celebrated the big day on September 9th, 2005. Mr. Lobo, we wish good health and happiness. May you have many more. Attached to this email is a copy of an email to us from Mr. Lobo's daughter, Sybil de Quadros. Following that is Mr. Lobo's birthday speech. Please join me in congratulating Mr. Lobo. Sincerely, -- Herman Carneiro - Forwarded message from Sybil & Novarro de Quadros <> - Dear Fred & Herman: I returned from Goa on Sept. 11th, after celebrating Dad's 100th birthday, on Sept. 9th. We attended a Thanksgiving Mass at 9 a.m. After which Dad thanked his friends who were not able to join us at the reception later that evening. The reception was held at Emerald Lawns. Dad typed his speech & my son, Conrad had it re-typed in big block letters to make it easier for him to read. Dad did very well in delivering it. I thank you on behalf on my sisters, brothers & all our children. God Bless! Sybil - Subject: Gorgonio Lobo - 100th Birthday September 9, 2005 - My parents, Angelo & Libania worked in Entebbe, Uganda, where I was born in 1905. I was the eldest of their 4 sons. Although my parents & 3 brothers have gone to their eternal reward they have left me with many happy memories and blessings. In 1915 my parents returned to Goa. I joined St Joseph's High School Arpora in 1915 & achieved my Matriculation in 1923. My first job in 1929 was as Clerk, with the Ministry of Health. I was appointed to Hospitals in Jinja, Soroti, Masindi, Entebbe, Masaka & Kampala, rising to the rank of Medical Superintendent. In 1963, I retired after 34 years service with the Govt. After which I joined the Kampala City Council as a Graduated Tax Officer, until 1971. In 1936 I married Priscilla De Souza from Calangute. Together we had 5 children. As parents we fostered in our children a love for our Faith, the importance of education, enjoyment of music & a sense of community The upheaval following the seizure of power by Idi Amin caused the dispersal of my family - Arthur & Judy to Perth Australia, Sybil & Alfred to Canada. Bertha had married and joined her husband in Switzerland. The opportunity to go to England or Australia were forgone as the pull of my ancestrial home "water from my own well" was strongest. My wife & I returned to Goa. Later we spent 2-1/2 in Perth with our family & many ex-Ugandan friends. After my return to Goa, I was able to contribute to the community teaching violin & the organ & supporting the Parish of St Anne. My contributions in Uganda: President & Founding Member of the Parent Teacher Association in Entebbe & Kampala. Member of the Advisory Board of Asian Education, Kampala; Member of the Central Goan Council & President of the Goan Institute, Entebbe. Member of the Asian Widows & Orphans Pension Fund, Kampala. Member of the Uganda Defence Force (2 yrs.) in 1941. Many have asked the secret of my longevity. It is ultimately the Blessing of God. However the constant use of mind & body kept me going, i.e. teaching music, keeping up to date with current affairs, managing my own finances. Maintaining a large home demanded a daily routine of activity. Until 2003 I rode my scooter & drove my car to Mapusa & the church & in doing so, maintained an independent lifestyle. The regular visits from friends & their children has renewed the bonds of great friendship we created & fostered in Uganda. Sadly my wife of 67 years passed away on November 22, 2003. I look forward to be a Centenarian as I target my 100th Birthday & would like to request all my dear friends to participate spiritually in my Thanks- giving Prayers to Almighty God for granting me a long lease of life. I am happy to be celebrating my Birthday on September 9, 2005 in the company of my children and grandchildren from Geneva, Switzerland, Perth, Western Australia & Montreal/Toronto, Canada & friends. May God Bless you all. -- Hello Judy & Sybil. Forwarding herewith information sought by you.Pl. refer to your E-mail. a) Gorgonio Lobo born in Entebbe, Uganda. b) He did his schooling at St. Joseph High School,Arpora Goa in the year 1915 to 1923 passed his Matriculation c) He started his first job in the year 1929 with the Min. of Health Headquarters,clerical division gradually rising to Asst. Hospital d) Superintendentand finally to Superrintendent. He served in various District Hospitals Entebbe,Mulago,Soroti,Masaka,Masindi,Jinja,Total e)34 years of service He also worked for Kampala City Council Asst. graduated Tax Officer for 8 years. g) He retired in the Year 1963 from the Govt Job after 34 years and in year 1971 from private sector. Additional Information (Year cannot recollect) a) Member of Advisory Board of Asian Education ,Kampala b) Member of Central Goan C
[Goanet] 13th Konkani Day Celebrations on 16th by KBM Mumbai
13th Konkani Day Celebrations on 16th by KBM Mumbai Konkani Bhasha Mandal Mumbai the oldest Konkani organisation joyfully celebrates 13th Konkani Day on Friday, September 16, 2006 at 6.30 pm at Zaverbhai Patel Auditorium, Karnataka Sangha, Mahim Mumbai. Former chairman of Shamrao Vittal Bank and the chairman of Auto Pharmatical Mr. G. V. Masoorkar will be the chief guest. Former Reserve bank Executive Director Mr. M. L. T. Fernandes and the Youth Congress Leader Mr. John S. Rebello will be the guest of honour. Programme consists of the glimpse of Konkani Culture with group dance by the world fame Dr. (Fr.) Charles Vas S.V.D. Popular artists Kenny (in tantalizing female role), Jerry of Jerry Nite fame, Priya Cabral, Caron Barboza, Melita Saldanha, Manuel Cardoza, Ancilla, Alicia, Danny, Peter Rebeiro, John Cardoza, Leo Fernandes, Fliny, Floyd, Felita, Lona D'Silva, Jason, rickson, Renita and others will provide a feast of music and dance. Music is directed by Mr. Benjamine Miranda There will be also an enthralling Kavi Sammelan by popular poets. There will be also a programme of Prize distribution to Talent Contest - 2005 Winners and Awarding of Pratibha Puraskar 2005. Entry is FREE to this programme. For more information please contact J. B. Moraes Tel: 022-25200324 or Ancy Paladka Cell: 9422492241 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ancy Salvadore D'Souza, Paladka Url: http://www.konkanifoundation.com/ancy Photographs: http://ancy.fotopic.net/list_collections.php
[Goanet] Re: Churchill, get us an OPINION POLL to liberate Dabolim
Good old Senhor Tom is out of touch of Goan realities. One cannot get bird's eye view from Hongkong, unless you're born and raised in Goa before 1961. Tom talks about Independence to Goa. We got rid of one Conquistador and replaced with another Conquistador with the use of left over Indian British Army with one bullet rifle in hand. Nehru and Gandhi told in UN that they don't want any Europeans live close to Indian boundary, India will liberate Goa and offer an Autonomy. Which we never got it. Entire Goa later after invasion was annexed. Nehru told lies, hurt Goan intelligentsia and Goan Patriots in Goa, which is a rare commodity available in Goa in this day and age. We have to liberate not only Dabolim but entire Goa. That average Goan Hindu or Catholic Bamon, Chardo, Sudhir ou mar chamar caste minded comrade is most untrustworthy element in our battle for freedom. They have no love for Goa but for India. India is not our problem, may be with few missiles we can make them to surrunder unconditionally. But, the biggest challenge after winning war with India, will face how to administer Goa? Given that Hindu and Catholic rivalry, rivalry among caste minded people, corrupt minded Goans, I suppose a fat chance. Agnelo Gomes Goan Patriot to drive India out of Goa. Philadelphia, USA
[Goanet] Goa to invite bids for monorail project
Believe we should be asking Chief Minister Rane *WHY* the Konkan Railway *Skybus* which costs approx Rs.45 crore per km; in other words, only two-thirds the cost of the proposed monorail project, is not being considered. Land acquisition, too, seems to be minimal with the *Skybus* project. The difference is approx Rs.675 crore Lawrence - See http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/ehtm/sky_bus.htm A Statement of Responsibility Made in Public interest(In Hindi) (THE URBAN TRANSPORT TECHNOLOGY FOR THE NEW MILLENIUM) The most precious asset in growing urban areas is the land. Allocation to residential and commercial purposes put heavy pressures on land for public use like parks and open spaces apart from very important and critical roadways. Hardly 6% to a maximum of 18% of land in cities form roadways. The roadways once laid- almost remain constant – at best- and may effectively reduce by uncontrolled encroachments. The physical constraint of road area being constant, as population increases, naturally loads on roads increase. As more and more people from different habitats try to converge on to the central business district, the road has no capacity to handle and congestions erupt. Roads take one exactly to the point where one wants to go. But the capacity is limited in terms of passengers per hour that can be handled. Even if one considers only buses, need to maintain the braking distances between two buses and the space maintained between them affects speed as well as limits per lane what capacity can be achieved. When mass transit , that too at higher speed is required, rail based systems only can handle. Requirements of an ideal urban transport system: Heavy concentrations of residential units coupled with required movement to work places or to market places demand transportation of people. Roads are to cater for the same. But roads have a limitation- the area available remains constant, once the development is completed, and old cities in particular throw up the problems of mismatch of designed capacity versus the increasing pressure of populations. Let us examine the various modes of transport that population uses in a city and their capacities and limitations, to evolve requirements of urban transport solution in a holistic manner. Currently available solutions are either elevated railway or underground railway if mass transportation is required: Elevated railway technically cannot reach truly congested central busy roads where the mass transport is needed. It is also too invasive and may require dislocation of some portions of habitat as well as introduces noise pollution. Underground railway is less invasive on surface but still poses technically challenging risks of fires and evacuations. It also has to address concerns for foundations of heritage buildings. If road vehicles are involved, in inter-modal transfers, it becomes weak link in the chain of transport between walking and railway. Both modes suffer from derailments and capsizing killing commuters. Surface railway is impossible to lay in an existing city. But even to lay the same in a new development, one should keep in mind what happens after 50 years of laying the same. We have living example of our own suburban system. The city remains divided by the corridor and it is an eternal noise polluter in the heart of city day in and day out. Sudden disgorging of heavy loads of commuters at stations create need less congestion on the roads, reducing quality of life. Almost close to 2000 persons die annually- because of trespassing or falling from trains in our present system- whatever be the excuse and justification for accepting the same. In addition vulnerable to minor vandalism by urchins, but resulting in grievous injuries like losing sight for the commuters. Again this mode cannot follow roads, so the weak link of road vehicles has to be brought in for inter-modal transfers. Derailments, collisions and capsizing concerns remain with loss of life for all the above mentioned three systems. The infrastructure created for urban transport is hardly utilized to 30 to 40% capacity because of directional as well as inevitable peaks for limited hours in a day. It has no other use and just idles. An ideal solution is one which: 1. Follows the existing roads- but does not take road space- and be as flexible as a bus 2. Have rail based mass transit capacity, same as existing rail metro 3. Does not divide city while providing integration along its alignment 4. Be derailment and collision proof- with NO CAPSIZING of coaches- so that there can never be loss of life 5. Be free from vandalism 6. Noise free and pollution-free 7. Non-invasive -requiring the least amount of scarce land space- and not come in the way of development. Sky Bus technology as offer
[Goanet] Konkani Lekh
VELL Daniel F. de Souza Vell ho ek lhan sobd protek mon'xachea jivitant chodd molacho. Vell amkam vikto gheunk poddonam. Vell amkam osoch melltta dekhun tacho ami naka zal'le toren vapor korun to ibaddunk favona. Karann, ibaddlolo Vell porot melltolo mhunn koslich khatri na. Mon'xachea jivitantlo dor ek dis Devan 24 voranchea vellan guntlolo asa. Hacho monis folladik ritin vapor korta kai? Hea prosnacho zobab mellounk ami dusreanchea jivitacher nodor marpachi goroz nam. Amchea chaltea jivitant nodor marlear hea prosnacho zobab amkam soroll mellta. Sokallim utthchea khinna savn tem sanjer porot nhidonk vocho meren ami ho vell koso sartanv kai? Khorench ami ho vell kitem tori borem korunk vapurtanv kai vo osoch kainch korinastana hogddaitanv kai? Hevui prosnnachi zap dor ekleak amkam amcheach jivitantlean melltoli. Oxem mhonnttat: " Kam korpi mon'xak vell mellta titloi thoddo". Punn bekar vo allsaien jivit sarpi mon'xak Vell utracho orthuch khobor asonam, dekhun taka tachea jivitant vellachem mhotvuch kollonam. Vellachem mhotv somzota to monis ek goddi legit ibaddunk poddot zalear tacher don pavtti tori vichar kortolo. Vellachem mhotv somzota to monis eke muie bhaxen vavurta ani dor eke goddiecho faido aplea jivitant kaddta. Aichea somazacher ek chalti nodor firailear vellachem bhangar korpi ani tacho goborui korpi monis eksarke melltele. Amche modem zaite oxe asat ki tankam aplea hatant axil'lo vell hogddaun bospak kainch vegllem disonam. Tea vella modem kam korunk zata zalear legit tem korinastana ravpak tatunt tankam koslench vankddeponn bhogonam. Dusre vatten somazant oslei monis asat je raticho dis korun ani disachi rat korun pott-tiddkin vavrun aplem ani aplea kuttumbachem udorposonn kortat. Oslea mon'xank dor ek disachi goddi khub mhotvachi ani dekhunuch hem sogllem zanno zaunui te vellacho purnn faido kaddttat. Sadoronnponnim polleunk gelear mon'xache kuddik visov zaich zai. Visov ghevopui khub gorjechem. Punn kitlo vell mhunn mon'xache kuddik visov zai asot? 24 voranchea disant monis tantlim 12 voram fokot kainch korinastana nhidun sarta zalear, hea visovak orth asa oxem tuka dista? Mhojean koslich otitai korinastana mhonnunk zata ki ho monis aplem jivit hogdddaita, apleakuch fottoita mhollearui fott zavchinam. Mon'xachem mon ani kudd ekameka kodden satvikponnan zoddlelim aspachi goroz. Hancho dogaincho sombond visvaxi tosoch somjikaecho asunk favo. Thodde favtt mon'xachi kudd visov gheunk sodta punn mon aplem kam chaluch dovrunk anvddeta ani he toren mona ani kuddi modem ek torecho vegllochar utpon zaunk xokta. Oxem ghoddunk favonam. Monachi vadd zaunk ami zata titlo amcho sohokar diunk zai ani osle poristhitint kuddik zoit melloun ghevpak soeg diunk zainam. Ek gozal ghott monant dovrunk zai: 'Ek kam zor amche kuddicher kosloi vaitt porinnam korta ani dusre bazun visov zor amchea monacher add ieta zalear hacho amkam kosloch faido mellchonam.' Monxache nhidek ani visovak ek xim'-mer asta. Punn teo donui xime bhair pavtat tedna monis allxi ani be-upeogi zaunk pavpachi xoketai vaddta. Anik ek vaitt sonvoim ji sadharonn mon'xa sovem disun ieta ti mhollear aiz korpachem kam monis faleam korchem oxem mhonnun aiz korinastana dovorta. Tem kam' korpak apleak aiz asa to vell faleamchea disa mellttolo vo nam hem to nokllo. Osli chal allxi mon'xa sovem disun ieta. Dekhun faleam korchem asa tem kam', aizuch korchem ani aiz korchem asa tem kam atanch korchem, oslo nirnnoi mon'xan gheunk favo. 'Time and Tide wait for no man' he inglez mhonn 'nnecho orth mon'xak spoxttritin somzol'lo zalear vellacho vapor koso korcho hem monis zanno zatlo aslo. Punn durdoivan, vellacho vapor koxe toren korcho ani tacho faido koso kaddcho hem monis zaite favtti xikunk chukta. 'Vell mon 'xak ravonam, punn zaite favtti mon'xak aplim chintnam xat'ti pavoupak ani sopnam sakar korpak vellachi vatt polleun ravchi poddtta'. Vellak ravpacho tujer prosong ievcho nhoi, hech nodrentlean monantle he don vichar tuje mukhar manddleat te thoddo vellant vell kaddun monant gholloi. Vellacho sarko vapor korun tujem jivit bhangarachea dhageanim nettoi. Disantlean apleak mellta titleai vellacho faido kadd ani dovache thembe (drops of dew) pannache tenkxer suddsuddit nachtat toxe, tujem jivit vellachea gopant khuxalponnim aiz ani sodankal nachum. Nach'chench! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/05
[Goanet] Re: Churchill, get us an OPINION POLL to liberate Dabolim
My dear Pacló de Goa, Senhor Tom, very much a senhor, was born in Goa quite a bit before you were. A year before I was. About the Portuguese way-of-life in pre-1961 Goa there is not much you can tell him. His late Pappa, Dr. Carlos Elvino de Sousa was a member of the Legislative Council of the Governo do Estado da India during multiple terms. The governors and they were on mutual visiting times. Coming down to retrieving Dabolim for covillian use, a struggle, such as Churchill has launched, with an eventual Opinion Poll, it has to be an-all-out effort, but democratically fought; please pray hold you your missiles and spare the windmills. And pray, please do us a great favour and worthy and cherished spare our Hindu friends your senseless, meaningless vitriol. Let me assure you my dear Agnelo, without massive, selfless, indiscriminate help from Goan Hindu-community, and to a large degree, by the strategy mapped out by them, our decisive victory in the anti-Maharashtra merger battle would have, at best, been stillborn. And, you my very dear friend, who grew up, in Comba and environs, surrounded and loved by your Hindu friends and peers, far more warmly than the nearby Bahmons, should blush, if not ashamed, for your uncalled for tirades, lest your bosom-friend, Inspector Rane phoenixes from his unrespected ashes. Please accept this admonishment in the spirit it is imparted; at this stage, if we are to succeed in our endeavours you are most accutely needed, sans your missiles, but certainly not without your million doubloons. We will, both of us, go merrilly wind-mill hunting, in Hispaniola, after the bog birds are able, and allowed to freely roost in Dabolim. Ever your friend, Chacha Alfred Subject: Re: Churchill, get us an OPINION POLL to liberate Dabolim Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:55:24 EDT Good old Senhor Tom is out of touch of Goan realities. One cannot get bird's eye view from Hongkong, unless you're born and raised in Goa before 1961. Tom talks about Independence to Goa. We got rid of one Conquistador and replaced with another Conquistador with the use of left over Indian British Army with one bullet rifle in hand. Nehru and Gandhi told in UN that they don't want any Europeans live close to Indian boundary, India will liberate Goa and offer an Autonomy. Which we never got it. Entire Goa later after invasion was annexed. Nehru told lies, hurt Goan intelligentsia and Goan Patriots in Goa, which is a rare commodity available in Goa in this day and age. We have to liberate not only Dabolim but entire Goa. That average Goan Hindu or Catholic Bamon, Chardo, Sudhir ou mar chamar caste minded comrade is most untrustworthy element in our battle for freedom. They have no love for Goa but for India. India is not our problem, may be with few missiles we can make them to surrunder unconditionally. But, the biggest challenge after winning war with India, will face how to administer Goa? Given that Hindu and Catholic rivalry, rivalry among caste minded people, corrupt minded Goans, I suppose a fat chance. Agnelo Gomes Goan Patriot to drive India out of Goa. Subject: Re: Churchill, get us an OPINION POLL to liberate Dabolim Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:55:24 EDT Good old Senhor Tom is out of touch of Goan realities. One cannot get bird's eye view from Hongkong, unless you're born and raised in Goa before 1961. Tom talks about Independence to Goa. We got rid of one Conquistador and replaced with another Conquistador with the use of left over Indian British Army with one bullet rifle in hand. Nehru and Gandhi told in UN that they don't want any Europeans live close to Indian boundary, India will liberate Goa and offer an Autonomy. Which we never got it. Entire Goa later after invasion was annexed. Nehru told lies, hurt Goan intelligentsia and Goan Patriots in Goa, which is a rare commodity available in Goa in this day and age. We have to liberate not only Dabolim but entire Goa. That average Goan Hindu or Catholic Bamon, Chardo, Sudhir ou mar chamar caste minded comrade is most untrustworthy element in our battle for freedom. They have no love for Goa but for India. India is not our problem, may be with few missiles we can make them to surrunder unconditionally. But, the biggest challenge after winning war with India, will face how to administer Goa? Given that Hindu and Catholic rivalry, rivalry among caste minded people, corrupt minded Goans, I suppose a fat chance. Agnelo Gomes Goan Patriot to drive India out of Goa. In a message dated 9/15/2005 7:31:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All that good old Tom recomends/proposes below, and even more, can be achieved at Dabolim. But, only if the Indian Navy is bid adieu as unceremoniously as were the Portuguese. With the huge area, occupied by the navy, made available for due expansion and upgrading of the Dabolim airport, all desirable international status,
[Goanet] NEWS FLASH - Fr Pratap Naik SJ TSKK RESIGNS FROM GKA
In an interesting development and a literal boost to the Konkani in Roman script movement, it is now officially confirmed that Fr Pratap Naik, SJ, Director Thomas Stephen Kendra, Porvorim a well known researcher and the man spearheading the recognition for Konkani in Roman script had indeed resigned on 5th September 2005 as General Council Member from the Goa Konkani Academy which was formed in 1984. Fr Pratap Naik speaking to this writer, feels saddened that the " people of Goa have been betrayed on the script on 21st November 1981 ( and not as alleged during the pre KPA movement days ) when a section of the ONLY DEVANAGARI script Konkani infiltrated into the ranks of the Advisory Board for Konkani of the Sahitya Akademi New Delhi and "unanimously recommended that Devanagari should remain the script for Konkani. Till this date the GKA has not been able to convince the Goans on who decided on the script" Fr Naik stated. Indeed the resignation according to Fr Naik "was necessitated as the GKA paid stepmotherly treatment to the cause of Roman script Konkani" . This resignation apparently is in tune with the demands of lovers of Konkani in Roman script that ALL MEMBERS favouring the equal treatment of Roman script with Devanagari script in Goa and who suscribe to the view Unity in (Konkani) Diversity (in scripts) should not remain in the organisations which subscribe to the ONLY DEVANAGIRI SCRIPT . When this writer brought this news to the public coming as it is on the first day of the amateurs 31st tiatr competition 2005-06 being held at the Kala Academy beginning this evening there was great rejoicing and several at the Kala Academy applauded the stand taken by Fr Pratap Naik. Fr Pratap Naik who has recently been to Mangalore to attend the pro Kannada script for Konkani which has gained tremendous support in Karnataka recieved a boost for his efforts in Goa. The people of Karnataka too believe that Devanagari should not be imposed on them and they fully support the demand of Goans for the Konkani in Roman script. A report on the issue will be posted on the net tommorrow. Incidentally the resignation which was sent to the Secretary, GKA has not been accepted and efforts to ascertain the reason for the inordinate delay from the Office of the GKA were futile. There are unconfirmed reports that several others are likely to follow suit as the signature campaign carried out after the official sanction of the Church in Goa is gaining grounds as per the last reports received from the group spearheading the movement. Meanwhile according to Mr Wilson Mazarello prominent tiatrist and unanimously elected President of the Dalgado Konknni Akademi who spoke to this writer this morning confirmed that the tiatrist in Goa are one on the issue and they have been building support as they stage plays in the State even outside; "let it be clear" he said "tiatrists will leave no stone unturned to spread the message the days to come need to be watched its now or never " he stated. from the Kala Academy end GODFREY J I GONSALVES Borda Margao Goa [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com
[Goanet] RE: Goa inquisition was most merciless and cruel - addendum a TGF article
From: "samir_kelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/14inter1.htm Dear Samir, It is well known that the Goa Inquisition was mainly directed against Jews and other Christians. ALL such actions are cruel I have also pointed out that so was the BBQ of millions of widows in Sati I hope the author of that novel now travels to Palestine and writes a book about those people good wishes jc Here is the addendum http://www.colaco.net/1/InquiForeword.htm _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] Singles Again Club - by Ethel Da Costa
HEART TO HEART (SEPT 11) BY ETHEL DA COSTA To my 'Single Again' girlfriends, live life full! "The pain which you sometimes feel in your soul is the birth of a new insight. When your subconscious has born the new insight to term, you will be wiser than you were before." - The Beholder by Ken Lavendell "I am not concerned about your worldly success, only you are. It is true that when you achieve certain states of being over a long period of time, success in what you are doing in the world is very difficult to avoid. Yet you are not to worry about 'making a living.' True Masters are those who have chosen to make a life, rather than a living. "From certain states of being will spring a life so rich, so full, so magnificent, and so rewarding that worldly goods and worldly success will be of no concern to you. Life's irony is that as soon as worldly goods and worldly success are of no concern to you, the way is open for them to flow to you. Remember, you cannot have what you want, but you may experience whatever you have. " Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsch Going through my old files, dusting the dirt off paperwork and statistics researching a story, I chanced upon a press statement released by the National Family Health Survey which stated that the quality of life of Goan women was below average. There was more depressing news in fine print for the survey concludes stating widespread acceptance among married women justifying abuse and violence at the hands of their 'pati-parmeshwars' in their marital homes, despite their educational backgrounds. In Goa, everything seemed fair in love and beating! I am numb. And I am filled with pity for these poor creatures. I would like to think these women are sane, that they can think for themselves and work towards their empowerment. But are they really free off the chains they voluntarily shackle their thinking abilities? I'm not about to sit in judgment and underline the rights and wrongs in their respective marital situations. But giving abuse - in any form - the license of approval with silence is propagating a crime further in the face of the future generation of women. After all, we don't want our young women growing in the house to think that it's ok to be beaten black and blue by a man she professes to love through the sanction of an institution, just to keep society and its wagging tongues happy. Indeed, in some twisted way, to keep themselves happy and secure. I disapprove violence vehemently. And I disapprove men who think it's their birthright to put a woman in her place through the use of physical or emotional violence. I disapprove affected women sitting quietly and taking this bullshit. I disapprove women who don't let other women take their destinies and their own self-respect into their own hands and make a successful life for themselves away from abuse. I disapprove women cackling together about the trials and tribulations of other women who choose to say 'No' to abuse and venture towards singlehood. I disapprove these narrow mindsets because these people live their own empty lives without goals, that they cannot envision a better future for themselves. They have no control over what they want, or the drive to go and get it for themselves or how to love their own spirits freely and full-heartedly. I meet many women who really don't know what they want. They live their dreams through their men (if it works for them, good for them) and then take abuse as an extension of their love for the man they are knotted with till death. They live by a code of acceptance, turn their faces the other way, lest they fall flat on their noses with no economic support to help pull through the rest of their days. I often wonder what lessons in life the 'accepting' abused women teach their own girl children. Do they teach them to be independent? Do they tell them how to be happy individuals? Do they teach them how to discover their minds and use it for the benefit of their self-growth? Do they teach them about dreaming? Do they teach them about survival? Do they teach them about saying 'No'? I have two girls and I'm extremely proud of them. They are learning stand up for what they want. They are learning to differentiate between 'right' and 'wrong.' They are learning to discover their own personalities (and teach me a few home truths as well, and I like that). They are learning how to accept the less fortunate and show compassion. They are learning how to hold their heads high and never to think that they are less best than their peers, because of a situation. Above all, they are learning to speak against people who propagate wrongs. They are a handful alright, as their own personalities shape up with the exposure of their environment. I can't say much of the other children I observe (and this without prejudice) who come from seemingly `happy' households, because their parents live in c
[Goanet] SPORTS: Jaison White lands up in Churchill Bros camp
Jaison White lands up in Churchill Bros camp >From Armstrong Vaz Margao Sept 14: Englishman by birth and Thailand citizen Jaison White was impressed by what he saw on his first day at the Churchill Brothers camp. Jaison White monitored each and every movement and every move and counter move that the Churchill Brothers players made on Wednesday morning at Varca grounds. It was the first day in office and a first insight into the football talents at offer at the Churchill Bros camp. Jaison was having a first feel of Indian football from close quarters. His feedback of Indian football had come from his good friend and the last foreign coach of the Indian football team, Stephen Constantine. "We are good friends," he informed while speaking to reporters at Ramada Hotel at Varca on Wednesday afternoon. Jaison has no immediate plans to join Churchill Bros. When asked to give the date of his joining the club, he pointed out that he would be busy with Indonesian national team looking after their fitness. Incidentally he informed that his father is the coach of the national team of Indonesia. He went on to inform that his father had been coach of the Thailand national team and now has been handed over the national assignment of Indonesian team. The Indonesian team will be involved in an Asian country level competition which will get over in November this year and the next possible date of which joining the Churchill Bros club would be in the month of December. He informed that his last contract with a Thai club ended three months back. On opting out of Thail football and for looking at an opening in India, Jaison, who was flanked by his wife, declared that he wanted "to move on and take up new challenges". "The Churchill Brothers assignment is a new challenge to me and I am looking at a three year agreement with the club," he added. On Churchill Bros team he has this to say, "Churchill Brothers is a young outfit. We are looking for foreign players in the right positions. Indian football players are good in physical aspects and can be molded into top flight players." Jaison is on a first visit to India and had been earlier to Pakistan and Nepal along with the Thail club. He informed that he saw the national Indian team play only once in Thailand two years and that was the only time he saw the Indian players in action. His coaching career, he disclosed, started at a young age of 18 when he was just playing his competitive football and added that his competitive football ended after an injury to his leg. Like his friend Stephen Constantine, he too is undergoing his UEFA pro license coaching course, which he informed will end in June 2006 and also added that at the same time his FA fitness coaching course will end in June 2006. On foreign players known to him making it into the Churchill Bros camp, he informed that he will get in touch with the players agent in Thailand and get back to the Goan club. ENDS
Re: [Goanet] Any Goan in Cape Town?
20,000 Ratnagiri muslims, fifth generation expats in the Cape, told the 1990 census they spoke konkani. I am willing to bet they have little use for the Roman, Africaanar, Governor Durbao (Durban !!), or any other script that so alters and demeans an historical tongue. eric. --- Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Wilson Coelho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:14 AM > > > Goans are indeed wide > > spread in the Globe. > > > Any Goanetter based in (or who knows any Goan > working/ > based in) Cape Town, South Africa? > > Need a little info from that end. Would be obliged > to have > any contacts. > VF > > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] RE: Churchill, get us an OPINION POLL to liberate Dabolim
Dear Alfred, It is like this. IF the Indian Navy considers Dabolim as one of the "spoils of war". IF it believe that the Indian Navy came to Goa to participate in the Liberation of Goa, it will Leave in Peace. IF the Goa Government believes that it is elected to do the People's will, It will request that Dabolim be vacated by the Indian Navy. IF the Goa Government believes that it is elected to ONLY make Dineros for themselves, It will find extra reasons to drag its feet. I wager that after ALL this noise - very little will happen wrt Dabolim After all, IF you rent out your house (offer a free room in your house) to somebody ... what are the chances you will get it back? jc http://www.colaco.net/1/GdeFdabolim1.htm http://www.colaco.net/1/GoaRentingOutNightmare.htm == From: "Alfred de Tavares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All that good old Tom recomends/proposes below, and even more, can be achieved at Dabolim. But, only if the Indian Navy is bid adieu as unceremoniously as were the Portuguese. With the huge area, occupied by the navy, made available for due expansion and upgrading of the Dabolim airport, all desirable international status, requirements, quality are practically obtainable. And the sooner the dreams of Mopa boom creating employment for Goans are dissipated the better. It will create employment, but hardly for Goans, who increasingly tend to shun mannual labour. Who will benefit will be the incoming hordes of migarnt labour that will easilly quadruple that existing politicians' pet population in Goa. If the liberation of Dabolim --and, Agendiva -- is beyond the scope of the perenially impotent farce that is called the Government of Goa, as well as, of the central government than we, Goans, should demand -- determinedly agitate if necessary, with all and every means at our disposal -- for a full-fledged Opinion Poll/referendrum to decide the issue and its result considered unequivocably binding. My dear Churchill please repeat the great achievement of Jack de Sequeira, in Delhi, in 1964 and prove your mettle. But, please, whilest negotiating the terms of the O.P., take care to insist that Goans, living any place in the world, are guarrantteed a vote on the issue, to be cast, in the nearest Indian mission. You would need a panel of expert advisers: None better suited than the excellently informed Phillip Thomas to help you set it up. You don't have to worry about me. I shall not be pontificating from out here. I will be with you, in Goa, working as hard as I did to save Goa from the voracious greed of Maharashtra. We resolutely shunned them them. Let's not let them in now via the back.door of Mopa. The stunning victory that, at least once united, Goans woncan, and will, be repeated. Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2005-09-15. 0046 8 759 6214 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: [Goanet] PARRIKAR'S CLEVER COP-OUT ON DABOLIM
From: "Philip Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" To: Subject: [Goanet] PARRIKAR'S CLEVER COP-OUT ON DABOLIM Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:52:11 +0530 In a talking head clip on cable TV (local news telecast) ex-CM Parrikar said in effect: "Around the world it is easier to drive a foreign power out of a place than to get the local military to pull out" adding, " I challenge you to give me even one example of the latter". Alternatively, Parrikar would have found that at a big tourist/military airport like Hawaii there is what is known as joint management of the base/international airport. In India there is a lot of talk about 'flexible airspace management'. Frankfurt is another comparable example AdeT Goa could have taken the lead in expediting the materialisation of this arrangement which is acutely needed nationally today. These are some of the areas a Goa CM would be expected to know something about and pursue with the Centre. But it would presume they have, to begin with, a lively vision about the central importance in this day and age of airports to the economy and society of a city and region.
[Goanet] Goanet News Bytes * Sept 15, 2005 * Churchill sarcastic over Mopa... Jamir seeks clarification on MLAs' pension bill
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] / d8 Founded 1994 e88~88e e88~-_/~~~8e 888-~88e e88~~8e _d88__ by Herman 888 888 d888 i 88b 888 888 d888 88b 888 Carneiro "88_88" | e88~-888 888 888 __888 888 -- / Y888 ' C888 888 888 888 Y888, 888 www.goanet.org Cb "88_-~ "88_-888 888 888 "88___/ "88_/ Y8""8D [GOANET NEWS BYTES * SEPT 15, 2005 * DATELINE GOA] * Compiled in public interest by Frederick Noronha *** SOUTH GOA Member of Parliament Churchill Alemao on Wednesday formally launched an agitation against the proposed airport at Mopa with a Citizens Action Committee constituted under his chairmanship resolving to unitedly oppose the project, tooth and nail. The MP took a dig against the Rane-headed Congress government, saying the Congress should instead form an alliance with the BJP if the party agreed with Manohar Parrikar's open demand for the airport at Mopa (in a corner of north Goa, closer to the Maharashtra beaches). Herald o Ravi Naik suggests public debate over airport. (H) o Jamir seeks clarification on Pension Bill. CM Rane is embarassed, wonders why he wasn't consulted on amendment.(GT) o Goa planning board is reconstituted, with Rane as chairman and Mormugao MLA Carl Vaz as deputy chairman. (GT) o Maharashtra government has set in motion the process to ban plastic bags in the state, due to its chocking of gutters.PTI o Public screenings at Vasco and Margao for IFFI 2005. (H) o Electricity department staff might have uniforms of khadi.(H) o Governor favours balanced autonomy for universities. (H) o Ex-Sanguem civic chief Minguelinho D'Costa and clerk Sunila Gaonkar found gilty of corruption. They were found to have misappropriated Rs 200,000 from the civic donation fund. (H) o Anjuna-Caisua village panchayat has advertised a number of works, including soiling and asphalting and drainage in the village. See Herald, Sept 15, page 11. o Garbage keeps accumulating along the Mapusa by-pass. (GT) o Dengue death awakens Bicholim authorities. In Panjim officials say 'No real fear of dengue'. (GT) o Goa governor S C Jamir inaugurates vice chancellors' meet. (GT) CHINCHINIM QATAR CUP 2005: Watch the renowned and promising schools of Goa under 16 aiming to conquor the glittering Qatar Cup from Sept 15 to Oct 2 at the CRC Grounds, Chinchinim. Inaugural match between Loyola Margao and Assumpta Convent Sarzora on Sept 15 at 4.30 pm. Axe Gomes (Org Chairman), Valente Conceicao (Gen Secy), Romaldo D'Cunha (Treas) o Konkani leaders hopeful of realising long-term goal despite script imbroglio, writes Paul Fernandes. (GT) - KONKANI HEADLINES (Sunaparant): - o Vidyapeet svaytattacher shikshantantra-rajkarni mathbedh. Politicians, educationists differ on autonomy for varsities. o Don vimantal parvadna jalyar Daboli band karun Mopa? If two airports prove unaffordable, close Dabolim for Mopa? o Gova nty Suratmeren rokdich ro-ro seva. Ro-ro (roll-in-roll-out) service to link Goa-Surat soon: KRC. o Aami Britishachem puth. RSS Goa chief and educationist Subhash Velingkar of Porvorim, in his vitriol-filledl Thursday column. o Goa State Aids Control Society invites you for the launch of its brand ambassador for HIV/AIDS 2005-06 Jules Alberto Dias on Sept 15 at Hotel Nove Goa, 4.30 pm. International footballer (Dempo SC) is quoted saying, "I will let football run in my blood, not the HIV virus. Let's together combat HIV/AIDS and work towards the challenge for making Goa AIDS-free." - EDUCATION - o Interactive session held with chairman and members of managing committee of the Industrial Training Institutes at Mapusa and Panjim. (H) o Carmel's College, Nuvem is advertising for a lecturer in Chemistry (contract/lecture basis), a lectcturer in psychology (extraordinary) and another in zoology (FIP study leave). REPORT FROM PILAR: Fr. Frank Mendes sfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on the silver jubiliee celebration of the St Agnel Higher Secondary School at Pilar: Fr Agnel Higher Secondary School, Pilar Goa reached a significant milestone in its chequered history as it completes 25 years of its establishment. Inspired and spurred on with the new 10+2 system the late Fr Philomeno D’Costa took great pains to begin the Institution in May 1979, when such Institutions were just difficult to be approved. Fr Costa guided the destiny of this institution unt
[Goanet] Churchill, get us an OPINION POLL to liberate Dabolim
All that good old Tom recomends/proposes below, and even more, can be achieved at Dabolim. But, only if the Indian Navy is bid adieu as unceremoniously as were the Portuguese. With the huge area, occupied by the navy, made available for due expansion and upgrading of the Dabolim airport, all desirable international status, requirements, quality are practically obtainable. And the sooner the dreams of Mopa boom creating employment for Goans are dissipated the better. It will create employment, but hardly for Goans, who increasingly tend to shun mannual labour. Who will benefit will be the incoming hordes of migarnt labour that will easilly quadruple that existing politicians' pet population in Goa. If the liberation of Dabolim --and, Agendiva -- is beyond the scope of the perenially impotent farce that is called the Government of Goa, as well as, of the central government than we, Goans, should demand -- determinedly agitate if necessary, with all and every means at our disposal -- for a full-fledged Opinion Poll/referendrum to decide the issue and its result considered unequivocably binding. My dear Churchill please repeat the great achievement of Jack de Sequeira, in Delhi, in 1964 and prove your mettle. But, please, whilest negotiating the terms of the O.P., take care to insist that Goans, living any place in the world, are guarrantteed a vote on the issue, to be cast, in the nearest Indian mission. You would need a panel of expert advisers: None better suited than the excellently informed Phillip Thomas to help you set it up. You don't have to worry about me. I shall not be pontificating from out here. I will be with you, in Goa, working as hard as I did to save Goa from the voracious greed of Maharashtra. We resolutely shunned them them. Let's not let them in now via the back.door of Mopa. The stunning victory that, at least once united, Goans woncan, and will, be repeated. Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2005-09-15. 0046 8 759 6214 From: Tom & Carolina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Re: Proposed Mopa Replacement Airport. Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:17:43 -0400 Proposed Mopa Replacement Airport. Goa is moving forward as the central Government has proposed a new state of the art airport at Mopa in Pernem. The present Dabolim airport built around 1953 was just a simple airstrip and its main purpose due to the economic blocade with India and Portugal. After independence it was upgraded to enable large capacity flights to land in Goa, but its status is nowhere near the international airports in other parts of South East Asia including Singapore, Kuala-Lumpur, Hong Kong, Manila, Taiwan and so forth. The terminal building in Hong Kong International airport is 1.27 kilometres long, and has international airline counters from A to Z, over 200 immigration counters, 14 belt conveyors for luggage handling, 60 link bridges for the planes to land at the airport, a 5 star airport hotel, cargo handling, crew hotel, and two runways 3.8 kilometres long. International airlines also need maintenace and there are two large maintenace hangers, and the best restaurants and shopping arcades are in the terminal building. The total area of Hong Kong is 1068 sq. Kilometres. Judging from the above facts Mopa replacement airport can provide employment to a few thousand Goans during construction and when the airport comes into service. The ground transportation including trains, buses etc are essential as passengers cannot be late for their flights. The boom for tourism will be excellent for Goa. There is always a political touch for most of these projects, but we are in a world of free enterprise and healthy competion it will enable the consumer to get better value for their money and should only improve the service industry. Tom de Sousa in Hong Kong.
[Goanet] Re: Aleesha, the Konkani movie
Miguel, It's indeed a sad story that such a good movie as 'Aleesha' is drawing very few viewers in the theatres in Goa. When I saw the movie at Shivam in Vasco on 4th Sept, I was stunned to see the poor response. I was tempted to do a head count in the theatre. There were just about 55 people in all which included atleast around 8 children. It's a first konkani movie that has won a National award and Goans should have been flocking to see the movie. But, sometimes our priorities are totally misplaced. Nevertheless, Rajendra Talak deserves kudos for his excellent film making talents. 'Aleesha' has a beautiful contemporary story, sleek direction, excellent cinematography besides natural acting too. The language and its script is rich. The handsome young hero in the film, Thapan Acharya is incidentally also the lead actor in Prince Jacob's yet to be released konkani film 'Padri' . After seeing the film, I personally told several of my friends that they should not miss seeing 'Aleesha' for the sheer joy of seeing a well made movie. Just three days ago I even called up a few friends in Mapusa, Saligao and Aldona telling them to go and watch the movie at 'Alankar' theatre . They were not even aware that a konkani movie is showing in town. Goans are seen complaining that no good konkani movies are being produced in recent years, but, when films like 'Aleesha' are being screened in the theatres across the State there are no sufficient viewers, not even good enough to break even the cost of the screening. So much for the love of KONKANI and GOENKARPONN. On the other hand third rate Hindi movies are running to packed houses and if one cares to see, the majority of the viewers are our very own GOENKAR BHAV-BHOINNIM. It's a high time we do a re-think on our geniune love for our language and its survival. Merely organising cultural events with food, wine, fun and fiesta does not contribute in the least to keep the language alive! It's only a day's extravanganzanothing concrete and lasting. Perhaps, if efforts and ventures like these are supported and patronised by tru blooded Goans, we can be assured that there will be another such project in the pipeline soon. This is what will sustain the language in the long run. With the making of 'Aleesha' a complete film (minus the songs and running around the trees) konkani films seem to be scaling new heights. Well done Rajendra Talak.a few more Talaks among us would do wonders to keep our mother tongue kicking and alive for posterity. Daniel. - Original Message - From: Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Rajendra Talak's award winning film "Aleesha" is being screened in Cine > Alankar almost unknown to the local populace. There is only one show at 6.30 > P.M...and 15 September is the last day it will be screened in Mhapsa. > It is a good movie running to an almost empty audience.
[Goanet] Re: CHURCH SANCTIONS SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN FOR ROMAN SCRIPT ((K) PART I
Dear Godfrey, This is an interesting History that seems to be a revised version of Fr. Pratap Naiks work which appeared earlier. But it is not an improvement. And it cannot be helped; if a research guide like Fr. Pratap can falsify historical facts, how can we expect anything better from his disciple and that too a novice amateur? Still may one inquire about the basis for the statement: The Portuguese lent credence to merit by worth not like this section of Hindu Brahmins who believe merit by ones birth not worth. Everyone knows that during the Portuguese rule the only considerations were Caste and Religion in that order. Try and prove me wrong by citing just one case of a lower caste person who occupied any government position during the four and a half centuries of that rule. Leave aside the government, the Roman Catholic Church was even worse. Would it have been possible for Cardinal Gracias to have been even consecrated as an Auxiliary Bishop had he been in Goa? Was merit by worth the exclusive right of a particular caste? Who is this Sebastião ANDRE Dalgado (see at 25-03-04) after whom the DKA is named? Did he publish a single book in Roman script Konkani so that his name could adorn an academy seeking justice for Roman script Konkani? The only Dalgado connected with Konkani that I know about was christened Sebastião RODOLPHO Dalgado whom you have mentioned in your para#5. But all his books are in Portuguese. He translated Sanskrit classics and also made linguistic studies on Indo-Portuguese and Luso-Asiatic dialects. He also compiled two bilingual dictionaries and an anthology of Konkani proverbs. These books were also in Portuguese. He too did not write a singled book of Konkani prose or poetry. But he did very clearly and unambiguously declare that Devanagari, and not Roman, is the correct script for Konkani. Therefore, his name would have been the last that could have been selected for an outfit that is clamouring from the house tops that Roman script is the best suited for Konkani. Perhaps this Sebastião ANDRE Dalgado fits the bill. But what was he? What did he do to merit this honour? I hope to have clear answers to these questions. Another of my questions the meaning of (Naik not Nayak) is still begging for an answer. I shall be grateful if any reader, who understands this, could satisfy my curiosity. S. M. Borges --- godfrey gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WARNING --CATHOLICS IN GOA WILL SOON END UP AS > STRANGERS IN THEIR OWN LAND--- WHILE ---UNITY AMONG > HINDUS & CATHOLICS AND PROMOTION OF BOTH DEVANAGARI > AND ROMAN SCRIPT IS OUR CHERISHED ENDEAVOUR:
[Goanet] Chowgule College Margao to have artificial turf ground
Chowgule College Margao to have artificial turf ground First of its kind in south East Asia. By Armstrong vaz MARGAO SEPT 14:- Chowgule group of companies have in the fore front in many an educational fields all over the state. The Chowgule group of companies have now all set to have state of the art modern play ground , the first of its kind in the entire south East Asia. The mega project which involves laying of artificial turf playing surface at the existing Chowgule college ground here at college campus. The project involves a sum of Rs.2.5 crores and all the expenses will be taken care by the Chowgule group of companies informed One of the Director of chowgule group of companies Umaji Chowgule. He informed that that the Chowgule group of companies are interested in improving the Existing infrastructure at the college campus. Hew further disclosed that health club and a science club are the other priorities of the management. The artificial turf surface which is will be the first of its kind in India and also a first for south east Asia will be imported from Canada. Sources informed that around nine containers loaded with the artifical grass will be making their way to Goa from Canada. The artificial grass surface does not require any watering and according to information available is conducive to football and hockey. we are checking whether cricket can be played on these type of surface informed Umaji. . Umaji was himself a cricket player and is also into water sports participation . Sources informed that the management of chowgule group of companies have been in touch with the national cricket academy in Bangalore to test the feasibility of the prospect of playing cricket on the artificial grass. College authorities informed that the soil testing has been done and a Pooja too has been undertaken informed sources. Anil Kumar from Hyderabad will be working on the project while plans of the project include constructing natural slopping stands. The slopping stands will be like the stands one finds in the cricket grounds at Australia and New Zealand. The stands will be constructed from the mud generated from the digged surface of the existing 7000 square metres ground. The stands will serve as a sitting arrangements for the spectators who will come to witness the sporting action. According to sources the work of digging the surface will behind in this month and after digging work. And other allied works the artificial grass will be installed. According to experts from the field handling artificial grass, it was informed that the grass when it catches fire burns for one square metre and there after automatically stops the fire. The campus around Chowgule college will under go a drastic change once the project is completed. The college management is also planning to install full proof security once the mega project is completed. The project is a non commercial one informed Umaji Chowgule. Indian football team can use the services of this ground. The ground being one of its kind in India they are welcomed to use the ground with out being charged Sources also indicated that Chowgule college is planning to construct a new health club at the college campus. The entire health club expenses are being funded by the University grants commission, sources informed that already three lakhs have received and another 4.5 lakhs are awaited. The health club is being designed on modern lines. The top brass of Chowgule management having visited various health clubs and gymnasium of all the reputed gymnasium of the state, along with the educational heads of Chowgule college and higher secondary. The management now have drawn elaborate plans for the health club . The health club will be housed in the old Canteen wherein the existing table tennis and other indoor games take place. The health club will situated next to the existing playground which is being given a face lift. The health club besides the modern gadgets and the latest weight training equipments will have all modern health facilities. The plans include having a modern laboratory and even aryuvedic and Homepathy services. The health club idea according to sources is set in the health conscious trend among the young and old generation. The staff, students will be using the gym facilities informed sources at the chowgule college.
[Goanet] Re: Abbe Faria Stamp
Dear George, I am in Goa at present for a wedding and very busy. I am open to judgjing the competition along with Dom. A honor. If you find someone else, that is fine too. But I will have to do it online. I will be in India till Oct 3. Then from Oct 6 - Jan 4, I will be in Japan doing a Japanese Woodblock Residency at Awajishima in Hyogo Prefecture, and later visiting museums. After that I will be back in NY for a few days before returning back to India till the end of Feb. So will write back in a few days. Let me think about designing a stamp. Its too hectice. One needs time for these things. But will certainly think about it. Someone should look at commemorative stamps and pay attention to sizes, etc. so artists understand process. Venanatius >Dear Dom and Venantius: > >Goa Sudharop would like to help move the Abbe Faria stamp movement forward in two ways: >1. We will forward the petition to increase the number of signatures. >2. We would like to donate a first prize of $150 to the best stamp submission made through the >Abbe Faria website by a child under 18 years old. We would propose the two of you be the judges, >say ending the competition on Dec 31, 2005? It would help Goan children learn about Abbe Faria. >This is our 'Year of the Child' and such a competition is in keeping with that theme. > >I know Dom has his stamp design on the website and perhaps Venantius can come up with one too? >The best submission from the competition for those under 18 years, including one from each of you >(three in total) can be submitted to the respective authorities in France, India, Portugal? I am >sure the three countries have their own stamp designers but would surely receive stamp >submissions. Perhaps other submissions on the website by those over 18 can be submitted to the >authorities but would be excluded from the $150 prize. > >What do you think? > >Regards, >George > >
[Goanet] Comedian Philip's Musical Show in Kuwait tomorrow
"TUM VHOIR AUM SOKOL" Konkani Musical Show in Kuwait on 16th Sept. 2004 The final countdown .. Comedian Philip with Professional Music Directors: Norman Cardoz (Goa), Shuhu Almeida & Adrian Gomes (Kuwait) with Sound & Light Effects by Spiders, and Nicholas Rodrigues & Joaquim Rodriques as Project Coordinators are all geared up to present the long awaited Konkani Musical Show in Kuwait P.V. Productions' "TUM VHOIR AUM SOKOL". Selected Cast: >From Goa: Felcy, Anthony San, Francis de Tuem, Lawry Travasso, Anicet de Santa Cruz, Comedian Augustinho, Comedian Peter da Costa, Francis de Tuem. >From U.K.: Tommy (Jr. Nelson) Joins a Galaxy of Konkani Lovers' Favourites from the cream of Goans and Mangaloreans from Kuwait. Konkani palkar tujea moladik vavr-ak sodanch Devacho axirvad ascho. Wishing Comedian Philip and his troupe all the very best for P.V. Productions' Musical Show: Tum Vhoir Aum Sokol. Francis de Verna President, Kuwait-Goa Tiatristanchi Sonsvtha (KGTS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] MOGALL PHILIP BAB, KOSSO ASSAI RE ANI KHOXI CHOLTAT TUJEA SHOWACHI PRACTICES, SOZMOTAM IT WILL BE ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS IN KUWAIT TILL DATE. I DONT KNOW IF YOU KNOW OR REMEMBER THE SHOW EKVOTACHEM FOLL PRESENTED BY UTORDEKARS IN KAIFAN HALL IN EARLY EIGHTYS. HOPE YOUR SHOW WILL BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WELL MY FRIEND ALL THE BEST FOR YOUR BOTH THE SHOWS, AND WISH YOU GOOD LUCK IN YOUR FUTURE WORKS TOO. MOG ASSUN DHI. REKAD DHI MOJE SEZARI IXXTAK MARCUS VAZ AK, TOXENCH LAURENTIK. MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL VINCENT S. PEREIRA UTORDA MOLLARvincent salvador pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good luck for the show and all the best Best wisher. >From Greater London armando d'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Philip Bab, This is Laurie M from Kuwait. I wish you and your troupe ALL THE BEST in your Musical Show on Friday. God Bless You all. Regards, Laurie Miranda (Kuwait). [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bab Philip, Your choice of giving a chance to M.Luis, Leena, Braz de Parra, Ignatius de Xelvon and Zoro shows your great interest to continue the tradition of Konkani stage with the young generation artistes. Best wishes for your Musical presentation. Dominic Araujo President - Kala Mogui Kuwait [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The visiting Artistes from Goa and U.K. and to all our friends in Kuwait A warm welcome! A small note to wish Comedian Philip all success for his musical show. Alberto F. (Camp Arifjan) - Kuwait (Email withheld on request) - Forwarded by http://www.goa-world.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] WHAT ABOUT OLD HK AIRPORT?
[Tom & Carolina] So, is the old Hong Kong airport still functioning or has it been closed after Chek Lap Kok came into being? This is the kind of discussion which would be helpful, not stupidly pushing for Mopa to compete with global airline hubs OVERNIGHT!
[Goanet] Goanet News Bytes * September 12-13, 2005 * Ditching the Skybus, Goa talks about monorail tenders
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] / d8 Founded 1994 e88~88e e88~-_/~~~8e 888-~88e e88~~8e _d88__ by Herman 888 888 d888 i 88b 888 888 d888 88b 888 Carneiro "88_88" | e88~-888 888 888 __888 888 -- / Y888 ' C888 888 888 888 Y888, 888 www.goanet.org Cb "88_-~ "88_-888 888 888 "88___/ "88_/ Y8""8D [GOANET NEWS BYTES * SEPT 12-13, 2005 * DATELINE GOA] * Compiled in public interest by Frederick Noronha *** SEPTEMBER 13, 2005 o Tenders for monorail in Goa to be issued soon. Hike in state bus fares by next week. (NT) o Churchill sticks out his neck over Mopa airport; says no problem if he is sacked from party. Mickky joins anti-Mopa bandwagon. (H) o 32-year-old woman suffers grevious injuries after being stabbed by husband at Shantinagar, Ponda. (H) o Some Congressmen irked over GPCC constitution. (NT) o Corporation of the City of Panjim begins to spread composting units network, for disposal of segregated bio-degradable wet waste. (NT) o CID sleuths arrest dance bar girls in Caranzalem. They were staying in a posh colony near Miramar. (NT) o Don't move the Navy from Dabolim, argues Brig (Retd) Ian Da Costa in an edit page piece in the Herald. (H) o Beatrice D'Costa e Pinto of Miramar complains about the poor service at the Portuguese Consulate in Goa. (Herald, letters) o Gomantak Times asks, "Is Tony Rodrigues being accused of Fr Nenzl's murder to protect a powerful minister?" (This is a hit-and-run case involving a Palloti priest.) SEPTEMBER 12, 2005 o Police Inspector Gajanan Prabhudessai of Curtorim was shunted to the Goa Reserve Police, overnight. (Herald) o GPCC constitution: Churchill Alemao says he was not consulted. (NT) o Trouble brewing within Congress over constitution of GPCC (H) o Public Works Department's 24/7 water supply project is a virtual non-starter. (H) o Dabolim airport is adequate if utilised to full capacity, argues Edwin Pinto of Nagoa-Verna. (GT) o Goa's international footballer Jules Alberto Dias chosen as state youth ambassador for AIDS, writes Armstrong Vaz. (GT) o 260 shacks to come up on Goa's coastline this season. (GT) o BJP threatens agitation, says Margao civic delimitation is biased.H o Socorro village panchayat in the grip of instability. (H) o Calangute, Colva to get share of IFFI pie. (H) o St Xavier's College to observe Software Freedom Day. (GT) REVIVAL OF TRADITIONAL CRAFTS in Pernem only a mirage. A few cottage industries like handlooms, which existed in some villages of this taluka can be revived if the government extends its support and provides an outlet for the goods, writes Suhas Parsekar in GT. Salt pans in Morjim are also dying a slow death. GOA GOES INSTRUMENTAL: Caetano de Abreu reviews Curtorkar Agostinho da Cruz's *Goa Goes Instrumental*. Released in May 2005, musician Abreu praises Cruz as "one of Goa's finest composer and conductor". Besides some of Agostinho's compositions, it also includes music tributes to the late Frank Fernandes (Amchem Noxib and Nirmonn), Prof Michael Martins and Chris Perry. The tunes 'Ugdas Tumcho' dedicated to trumpetist Felix Antic and Juju, the tenor saxophonist who recently passed away, are outstanding as is 'Kallzacho Ulas' dedicated to the late Maestro Rev Camilo Xavier, writes ABreu. (GT) - EDUCATION - o Goa all set to implement NCERT syllabus from next year. (NT) o Six hundred-odd polytechnic students who were literally thrown out of the institutions consequent to their failure to clear more than 10 backlog subjects, will now be allowed to rejoin classes and clear the same. (NT) o Renowned astrophysicist Dr Jean Audouze felicitated by deputy CM Dr Wilfred de Souza in Panjim. (NT) o Dhempe's to host seminar for literary festival. The theme will be City Stories: Writing the city, transforming the city. Papers for the seminar are invited. Phone 24 62 606. Seminar will be conducted at Dhempe College on October 8. Contact Prof R B Pinto, vice principal or [EMAIL PROTECTED] o Velim's SFX church holds quiz contest. St Xavier's HS Velim bagged the first prize. Assumpta Convent of Sarzora and Chinchinim stood next in rankings. (GT) o Non-aided primary schools demand mid-day meals scheme. (GT) - DEATHS & OBITUARIES - Twelve-year-old schoolboy Ratnesh was allegedly murdered by Chandrabasavva alias Raju, a driver, du
