[Goanet] Sunday papers... some Goa links
While visiting Uganda, where daily newspapers are priced the equivalent of 50 US cents (about 1000 Ugandan shillings), it suddenly struck me how inexpensive and affordable Indian newspapers are. A paper here costs Rs 2-3 on a weekday (under 10 cents US) and about Rs 5 on a weekend. But papers that are advertisement-driven can be a bit (or more) reader-unfriendly at time. One compromise is the Sunday newspapers, and most outstation weekend-editions tend to have a fair amount of reading material. My joke on myself was that the Sunday Deccan Herald used to be a very readable product... till I joined (from 1987-1994) and started writing for it ;-) Anyway, whenever the chance comes along, one does like to pick up the Sunday papers. Problem is: these editions come only to the towns (Panjim mainly, Mapusa doesn't get all) and Sunday is a day when one is seldom in town! Yesterday's papers did have some Goa links in them... Deccan Herald's art and culture page had this tory on the Opera House in Mumbai. It read: The fat lady sings only in Mumbai! Its rich history and intricate architecture make the Royal Opera House in Mumbai a major tourist attraction. K D L Khan on the only opera house in India. The Opera House in Mumbai waits to regain its past glory... One wondered: with all the talent, couldn't Goa have something even remotely like this? Never mind that the sun has set on the British Empire! And whiele reading, a Goan link presented itself. Apparently, the (then) Bombay Opera House was constructed in the Baroque style, and was the brainchild of Maurice E Bandmann, a renowned entertainer from Calcutta and Jehangir Framji Karaka, who headed a coal brokers' firm. The article further says: An advantageous corner site was leased at the northern end of Queen's Road in the vicinity of the Sandhurst and Kennedy bridges, and in 1908, Karaka and Bandmann drew up designs for the theatre. Bandmann's manager was responsible for the deisgn of the auditorium while a Goan, Collaco, took charge of the construction... Almost expected it! A Goan link there. As one reads a little of history, the Parsi-Goan links and the role they played in British colonial history of India keeps coming up. Even if the Goan often seems to be a junior partner in such endeavours. Interesting that Collaco is referred to only by his surname here. Does anyone have more details? Another article in the DH is Marianne de Nazareth's review of Manohar Malgaonkar's *Inside Goa* (published by Architecture Autonomous, pp 495, Rs 695). Year of publication is not mentioned. She writes: "Written in a fluid and easy reading style, Malgaonkar takes every Goan back to the days when their Portuguese 'masters' converted them to Christianity forcibly -- "Let him who wants to live in the islands become Christian". The others ran away to Mangalore and remained Hindu..." That, to me, seems a bit too simplistic. In post-colonial times, it's fashionable to claim that the Portuguese converted "forcibly". It would seem more believable that many simply saw opportunity in this switch-over. Likewise, one thought that migration further south down the coast (to Karnataka and Kerala) started in pre-Portuguese times. It might be fashionable now-a-days to blame this on colonialism alone. Another article in the SUNDAY Times of India (the paper I love to hate... it has changed the idea of what newspapers are so drastically, but you still can't afford to miss its adverts!) has this rather convoluted article on Wendell Rodricks, about a February 10 event in Colombo but written from Mumbai. It begins thus: "The fashion world is in a state of shock. The attack on designer Wendell Rodricks at a fashion show in Colombo on February 10 has left a bad taste in the mouths of the glad-rag brigade." After reading two-thirds of the piece, one lears that it probably was some rivalry between designers... or something to that effect. Apparently some designers had been invited to showcase their work at a charity event coordinated by a (?) Sumita Radhakrishna from Colombo on behalf of the Rotary Club of Colombo East. Maybe one is just missing something here! In the Deccan Herald, there's also another profile of Satish Gujral, the brother of former Indian PM Inder Kumar Gujral. We're told his "thirst for life and creativity led him to dabble in many artistic mediums". Wonder how many would agree that his design of the Goa University was something worth writing home about? -- FN 20022006 1035 IST -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomssngr/Skype: fredericknoronha Saligao, Goa, India | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 --
Re: [Goanet] Indian cuisine fascinates Bill: Awesome!
> of the night and most aptly reflected the 'Essence > of India' through > ambience and music. > The team ordered a wide range of dishes from the > Jamavar menu. Clinton > declared the meal "awesome". He particularly > relished the Chicken > Makhani, Biryani and the Dal-e-Jamavar. > -- Clinton should have faced the Essence of Goa but I guess there was none. We are outsiders in our own land. Makhani, biryani etc are all arab dishes what happened to our Vin da Alho? BC ___ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] MULTI-AIRPORT SYSTEMS IN THE OFFING?
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?hpFlag=Y&chklogin=N&au tono=215830&leftnm=lmnu1&leftindx=1&lselect=0 Airport winners not to get all Bipin Chandran & Suveen K Sinha / New Delhi February 20, 2006 GVK, GMR can match highest bid for new Mumbai, Delhi airports. The winners of the government's contracts to modernise the Delhi and Mumbai airports will not be the automatic choice for modernising any new airport that may be constructed in these cities or in their vicinity in the future. In a change inserted into the "request for proposal" document, the government has made it clear that bids will be invited for any new airport in either city and the existing contract holder will have to compete along with others. But, if the existing contract holder's bid is within 10 per cent of the highest bid, it will get a chance to win the contract by matching the highest bid. That, only if its performance in the execution of the current contract has been satisfactory, with no material default. The change was inserted late last year, when the bidding for Delhi and Mumbai was on. According to the earlier provision, existing contract holders could automatically, if they wanted, get to execute new airport projects by offering the government the same share of revenue as in the existing projects. Only if it refused, a bidding was to take place. The condition to the first right of refusal was to protect the business interests of private sector consortia executing the Delhi and Mumbai airports modernisation project. **A new airport in the vicinity will obviously eat into the business of an existing one.** The government wants to build a new airport in Mumbai by 2015. There has been talk regarding building another airport in Delhi too, mostly focused on Greater Noida, a satellite town. However, there is no firm deadline for it. The GMR-Fraport and GMR-South African Airports consortia have bagged the contracts to modernise the Delhi and Mumbai airports, respectively, after protracted, fierce and controversial bidding. The Civil Aviation Ministry may need to accelerate the thought -- and experimentation -- given to the emergence of multi-airport systems in the country without waiting till plans for Mumbai and Delhi to be firmed up. They can start by negotiating the revocation of the clause in the agreements with L&T/Siemens and GMR/Malaysia to close Bangalore HAL and Hyderabad Begumpet when BIAL and HIAL are ready. These airports must be designed to operate in tandem with the new ones OVER THE LONG HAUL. The same would hold true for the multi-airports for Mumbai and Delhi. Most importantly, Mopa plans must be re-cast along the same lines (after revoking the Cabinet resolution to close Dabolim when Mopa is ready). It is only in this way that new airports wont be planned so as to put old ones out of business overnight. This will also curb the tendency to build new airports as Taj Mahals with luxury hotel-lobby interiors. Passengers will end up paying through their nose for such extravagant facilities. Btw, we also dont want to see old airports converted into highly elitist civil enclaves for the use of defence/families and VVIPs/families while forcing aam admi to crawl to distant greenfield airports.
Re: [Goanet] CULINARY TRADITIONS You now know where Goans get their energy from
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a Goan band > and folk dancers Nothing to do with culinary traditions, but festam ... I was in a quaint little village in Santarem (north of Lisbon) about 18 months ago, which reminded me very much of our little villages in Goa. The evening that I drove into the village was obviously the conclusion of a "festa" that was celebrated earlier in the day, and there was a soccer game going on in a dusty field alongside the road - some of the bystanders and onlookers were leaning on their push-bikes, some colourful flags fluttering about, and dust in the air from the efforts of the players - a scene which would not be out of place in my village of Loutolim ... Cheers, Gabriel. Do you Yahoo!? Messenger 7.0: Free worldwide PC to PC calls http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Mopa Airport will destroy State economy: Churchill
Mopa Airport will destroy State economy: Churchill BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, FEB 19 - MP Churchill Alemao has demanded to know whether the present high spending tourists who stay at 5-stars in South Goa will continue to come to Goa if they have to undertake a two-hour drive to a hotel from the airport. Reacting to a article published by U D Kamat in a section of a press, Alemao said if it will take two-hour journey from Mopa to South Goa, all the hotels will surely be affected and will mostly likely close down, destroying Goa's economy. "We will destroy Goa's economy if we build Mopa and help create competition by developing the beaches and economy of Maharashtra. The impact of this on Goa has yet to be seen", he added. Alemao said if Mopa is required for other than tourism industry, let an expert show whether there's any need for a bigger airport. According to him, projection of tourist traffic will certainly if a bird flu or Sars epidemic is reported in Goa. "South Goa earns 75 per cent of taxes from tourism which helps to run the economy", he added. ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Leela Ventures bifurcates from hospitality, plans airport
Leela Ventures bifurcates from hospitality, plans airport 20 Feb 2006 - PTI Panaji: With a view to promote tourism in Kerala, Leela ventures is planning to set up a 100 per cent private airport at Kannur, that would take shape within three years. "Kannur has a garment park, IT Park and horticulture park and it needs an airport. Leela will be setting up the project here which will be the first 100 per cent private airport in the country," Leela Venture Chairman C P Krishnan Nair told PTI. "Around 300 acres of land has already been acquired for the project in north Kerala and another 1,000 acre of land would be acquired after state legislative assembly elections scheduled in May," he said. Airports in states like Kerala have good revenue potentials as Cochin airport made 65 crore profit this year, he added. The Leela venture chairman, however, was critical of the planned international airport at Mopa in Goa. "Airport at Mopa in north Goa would benefit Maharashtra not Goa. Best deal is to shift naval base from existing Dabolim airport to Karwar (Karnataka) and improve the Dabolim airport," he said. "800 acres of land at Dabolim airport is left unused. We have two runways at Dabolim and we can add another one", Nair said. The proposed airport at Mopa lacks the facility of a super express highway and tourists would not be comfortable travelling from there, he added. ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] I saw myself on Channel V - Rahul Alvares
Dear Creepy Subscriber I finally appeared this afternoon at 12.50 on Channel V. The film was excellent. The effects used in it by director and producer Mrinal were too good. I actually had goose bumps when I finished watching it! As a reminder the show is called V people. The film is very short and of only three minutes duration. It will be aired many times during this week on Channel V. I have about thirteen timings with me. I do hope you will be able to catch at least one! Today's timing said 12.30- 12.50. But the film appeared at exact 12.50. Tuesday (21st February) 13.30- 13.50 and 22.30-23.00 Wednesday18.30-18.50 and 23.30 - 23.50 Thursday 12.30- 12.50 and 19.30-19.50 and 21.30-21.50 Friday 17.30-17.50 Saturday 13.30-13.50 and 18.30-18.50 and 23.30 -23.50 Sunday 14.30-14.50 Pass this on to others if you can! Best Rahul
Re: [Goanet] Sunday papers... some Goa links
Re: Convoluted article on Wendell Rodricks The fullest account is probably: Headline: Indian designer war spills out in Colombo By Namrata Sharma Zakaria Source: Indian Express 17 Feb. 2006 at http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=88070 Sub-title: Wendell Rodricks says Delhi fashion house's MD got him stopped from going on ramp, Satya Paul's Kapoor denies it Full text: An unpleasant sideshow of Indian fashion industry unfolded in Colombo last week. Goan Wendell Rodricks, who was invited to a local fashion show on Saturday, was stopped when he was about to go on the ramp and take a bow. He was physically held back by the president of Rotary Club of Colombo East, Cida Subramaniam, and allegedly told, ''If you go on the ramp, you'll be bumped off on the way to the airport. This is Sri Lanka, you know.'' Rodricks says the Rotary official did it at the behest of Delhi-based fashion house Satya Paul's MD, Sanjay Kapoor. ''Sanjay was making life difficult for the organisers saying his label and Deepika Gehani's should be the only two showing,'' says Rodricks. Rodricks, who eventually pushed aside the bouncers and went on stage, adds: ''I saw Kapoor jump out of seat at seeing me, like a bat out of hell, and storm out.'' Kapoor denies the allegations. ''This is Greek to me, I didn't know any of this happened. If Wendell was manhandled, he shouldn't have been. The organisers were very unprofessional, none of our commitments were fructified,'' he says. Rodricks was invited by Chennai boutique, Studio Saks, to present in Colombo. Other designers invited were Shane and Falguni Peacock, Neeta Lulla and Anna Singh. Satya Paul and Gehani (her label is owned by Satya Paul) were told that the charity fashion show would showcase clothes by several Sri Lankan designers with the finale by Gehani, and that no other Indian designer would be present. Gehani says: ''I have emails from the organisers stating the flow of events and that we'd be the only ones showing... We only asked the organisers to do the event the way it was meant to be.'' ''Initially, we had asked only Gehani to do the show for us,'' clarifies Sumeeta Radha of the Sri Lankan Rotary. ''But Rodricks has a large fan base in Colombo and we wanted to bring him down as well. We presumed the designers would understand once they were here, and didn't think things would get out of hand.'' Radha confirms Kapoor was against any other designer showing and Rodricks taking the ramp. ''As for Subramaniam, he was under the influence of alcohol and regretful. He even apologised to Rodricks later.'' Model Anchal Kumar was aghast at the treatment meted to Rodricks and refused to model for Gehani's ensuing collection. ''I don't want to comment but I did what I thought was the right thing,'' she says. Another model, Mridula Chandrashekhar says: ''It was neither a competition nor a paid show, people should have left their egos at home.'' === - Original Message - From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:10 AM Subject: [Goanet] Sunday papers... some Goa links Another article in the SUNDAY Times of India (the paper I love to hate... it has changed the idea of what newspapers are so drastically, but you still can't afford to miss its adverts!) has this rather convoluted article on Wendell Rodricks, about a February 10 event in Colombo but written from Mumbai. It begins thus: "The fashion world is in a state of shock. The attack on designer Wendell Rodricks at a fashion show in Colombo on February 10 has left a bad taste in the mouths of the glad-rag brigade." After reading two-thirds of the piece, one lears that it probably was some rivalry between designers... or something to that effect. Apparently some designers had been invited to showcase their work at a charity event coordinated by a (?) Sumita Radhakrishna from Colombo on behalf of the Rotary Club of Colombo East. Maybe one is just missing something here!
[Goanet] Goan Fashion Designer: UK's Warren Noronha
Folks, Writing about Wendell Rodricks reminded me about Warren Noronha. He is back in the news after a gown he created was worn last night by Thandi Newton at the Bafta awards ceremony. She won and her photograph in the gown is splashed across the world in newspapers and TV news programmes today. For more about the story see http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ For a GVUK profile of Warren Noronha see http://goanvoice.org.uk/supplement/warrennoronha.html Cheers Eddie Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Re: Fwd: How many museums and what major ongoing projectsinGoa?
Folks, Goa: Fundação Oriente To Launch Conservation Plan 19 Feb. Agência Lusa. Plans include the setting up of a Museum, art gallery and meeting room. Expenditure is estimated to be 20 - 30 million Euros. Text, in Portuguese, 495 words at http://www.lusa.pt/print.asp?id=SIR-7751256 I do hope that I did not misinterpret the Portuguese original. Also, in Coreio da Manha of 19 Feb. 2006, General Chito Rodrigues talks about the 1954-61 Goa campaign. See http://www.correiomanha.pt/noticia.asp?id=191957&p=22&idselect=19&idCanal=19 Cheers Eddie Fernandes == - Original Message - From: "Alfred de Tavares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:39 AM Subject: [Goanet] Re: Fwd: How many museums and what major ongoing projectsinGoa?
Re: [Goanet] President Clinton in Goa
On 19/02/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the presence of President Bill Clinton in Goa, has the Goa branch of the > CID been informed of the presence of hard core / fanatic / Democratic-phobic > / Hillary-Haters, Republican card holders in Amchem Bangharacem Goem?:=))) > Could there be a security risk for the ex-Prez in the sands of in Amchem > Bangharacem Goem? > Could such individuals on the Goanet please identify themselves? :=))) :=))) > Kind Regards, GL RESPONSE: You have up-to-date intelligence on this matter! There is one such person, purportedly vacationing or perhaps hiding from creditors (Bankrupted); currently residing in Panjim I believe. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Rape case: accused gets 5-day custody
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=022033 Rape case: accused gets 5-day custody NT News Service Vasco, Feb 19: The Judicial Magistrate First Class (JMFC), Vasco, today remanded Sunil Chalwadi, arrested by the Vasco police on the charges of kidnapping and raping a minor girl, to 5 days police custody.The Vasco police have disclosed that the medical report confirmed that the girl was raped by the accused. According to the police, the alleged accused kidnapped the 12-year-old girl and then raped her after confining her in a room. The victim disclosed the fact to her aunt and later a complaint was lodged at the Vasco police station on February 18, evening, the police said. Meanwhile, the Vasco police have established the identity of the deceased person killed in a road mishap near INS Hansa Gate on the four-lane highway on February 18. The police disclosed the name of the deceased as Bhim Bahadur Oli (22), a resident of Dabolim and a native of Nepal. The deceased was working as a cook at a fast food restaurant in Dabolim. The two occupants from the Honda City car, Mr Bipin Godkar and Mr Monu, who sustained injuries, have been discharged from the GMC Hospital while the driver of the car, Mr Sunil Naik is undergoing treatment at the Pai Nursing Home, Vaddem-Vasco. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Re The Dabolim Naval angle; Issues of Nuclear Doctrine
DABOLIM NAVAL AIRPORT, MOPA AIRPORT AND NUCLEAR DOCTRINES. 1.How very "convenient" for Philip to dismiss "defence modelling" by referring to adjectives like "acute" observations by other postees. WHETHER ACUTE OR OBTUSE THESE HAVE NOT BEEN MATRIXED INTO ANY REAL ANALYSIS REQUIRED OF SUCH ISSUES. Glibness cannot replace genuine debate,whether acute,obtuse, right angled,flat,buxom,concave,convex or circular. 2.Seems as if certain persons are intentionally missing relevant considerations for reasons which cannot be charitably fathomed. 3.Whilst the Naval presence at Dabolim is a national defence imperative,the airport at Mopa is a civilian neccessity to improve,deepen, distribute the density and benefits of civil aviation penetration in Goa.The airport at Mopa would also take the "heat" off Dabolim, besides lending strategic breadth and depth to defence.Two airports ,it is simple to appreciate generate better options than one.MY GRANDMOTHERS VIEW: DONT PUT YOUR EGGS/ CIGAR BUTTS IN ONE BASKET. 4. In the light of Indias declared policy of "NO FIRST USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS", it stands to reason that "AN ASSURED/GUARANTEED RESPONSE THAT ENSURES ANNIHILATION OF ADVERSARY" would dictate a "thickening" of response ,defence and attack capability.This is also the reasoning behind seeking to multiply Submarine strike capability --whether conventional or nuclear based. 5.NOT EVERYTHING NUCLEAR IS BAD/TABOO. In this connection please refer to the worlds STRATEGIC shift to NUCLEAR ENERGY as eventual substitute for fossil fuels, as also appreciate the fallouts of such substitution against despot MONARCHIES of the World. 6. Can we agree to look beyond the pink booties ? Regards, Gerry. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Re: the Shroud of Turin and the Shredding of SFX
Jose, I must thank you for engaging these absurd attempts at denigrating the miraculous non-decomposition of St. FX with speculative conspiracy theories by cynics written 300 years after the fact. With his serial jumping from TALL bodies stuffed in small boxes in cargo storage (I'm not sure how this would preserve a corpse without lowering the temperature considerably) mummification and embalming, none of which would be claimed by anyone who has actually visited Bom Jesu and seen the glass casket, Mr. Eddie is running out of conspiracies. > > -- jose colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Eddie Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > After reading the article, I tracked down, emailed > and then phoned Cal > McCrystal who was a senior journalist on the staff > of The Observer and who > happens to live quite near to me. I asked him for > the source of his claims. > > He told me that they were: > > 1. Quarterly Review Vol. 260, 1871. > 2. The Blot upon the Brain, p. 165-188. 1843 > > from the Observer article: > > * Francis Xavier, a TALL, spare, well-born RECRUIT > to the new Society of > Jesus, founded in 1534 by Ignatius of Loyola > > * Many months later, the body was exhumed and taken > to Goa > > * Portuguese shipowner, James Pereira, ... ordered > that the corpse be > stuffed with part of his cargo to preserve it. > > Also from "Eddie Fernandes" taxidermy. Could this be > the explanation for the state of the body?> > > > > Dear Eddie, > > A few points. > > 1. Has Mr. McCrystal visited Bom Jesus? If so, has > he seen the Vestments > (purportedly) used by SFX ? From my estimate, it > would hardly be likely for > a "TALL" SFX to have used such small vestments. > > 2. Was Francis Xavier a RECRUIT to the new Society > of Jesus, or did he, > along with Ignatius Loyola and 5 others jointly > found the Society of Jesus ? > > 3. Was the body of SFX exhumed and taken to Goa ? or > did was it somewhere > else for a few months (after it was exhumed) before > being taken to Goa. > > 4. When one looks at the manner in which > 'decomposition' is studied by > forensic pathologists, does the account of Mr. > McCrystal cut any mustard > with the realm of probability? > > 5. You note that Mr. McCrystal used some old > publications as references. But > have these "references" put through any scientific > tests for authenticity? > > Or do they become credible because the Vatican > banned these books. The > Vatican in its infinite "wisdom" (for want of a > better word) has banned many > things in the past. In that regard, the Vatican's > tolerance has been no > better than that of the rigid Protestants, Muslims, > Hindus and Atheists. > > 6. Do you believe that Taxidermy ( not the crude > variety ) was available in > the days immediately following the death of SFX? > > 7. One point to note is the time of year that SFX > died. That part of China > is frozen in December to February. Explains finding > the body (at the time it > was exhumed) in the state it was found - not the > state it was when it > remained in Malacca or during its voyage to Goa and > thereafter. Hence, Mario > may been on target . > > Personally, I have more interest in SFX's life and > work. I am presently > reading (bit by bit) the Letters of SFX. Absolutely > fascinating stuff. The > rest of the conjecture is OK for the "conspiracy > theorists". > > good wishes as always > > jc > > ps: I read another comment (Afra) about the > preserving effect of lime. Is > Lime not an alkali - a Caustic substance? ...unless > we are thinking about > Lime as in Limbu Sodh. > > _ > Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN > Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > >
RE: [Goanet] Re: Salaam ali kum
Bosco, Thanks for giving me the last word and not censoring me as some of the other moderators have occasionally done using the excuse that my response was "of topic" WHEREAS THE ORIGINAL POST INCREDIBLY WAS NOT. > If your advice to use "Dev Borem Korum" had been used initially, instead of the Muslim greeting used inappropriately and incorrectly, and the incorrect usage then vehemently defended by some, this thread would have ended long ago. May it now rest in peace. However, I'm not holding my breath. > --- Meuris Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well done Bosco, appreciate it v much, lets keep > that Christian Faith > uplifted all the time !! > > Claude > > > >From: Bosco D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. > 1994!" > >To: goanet@goanet.org > >Subject: [Goanet] Re: Salaam ali kum > >Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:11:19 -0500 > > > >(Un)fortunately this thread has gone all over the > place. Are we so bankrupt > >of > >issues to talk about and discuss that relate to Goa > ?? All of a sudden > >we're > >experts at how people of other religious > denominations greet each other. > >And > >that too in Roman script! > > > >If an email signature is the cause for such futile > discussion, may I > >suggest > >to Gabe, that he sign off with "Dev Borem Korum". > > > >Can we please end this unproductive discussion ? Of > course, after Mario has > >the last word. > > > >Best - Bosco > >Toronto, CA > > > > _ > Make your dream car a reality > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcarpoint%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=12345&_r=emailtagline&_m=EXT > > >
Re: [Goanet] Re: the Shroud of Turin and the Shredding of SFX 2
Perhaps the conspiracy theorists can explain why others buried in "frozen" Manchuria in lime deposits are not preserved for posterity. > --- jose colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jose, > > < I must have missed the 'target' Mario was shooting > for as his contention > was that the heat and humidity would have > exacerbated the decompostion > process. Your view is that his body was preserved > in a frozen state until > exhumed? > > > > > Dear Kevin > > Atheism aside, My contention is also that > March-August is when decomposition > would have been MORE than inevitable . > > Now, what is that Mario said that I missed ? > > much love > > jc > > _ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get > it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > >
Re: [Goanet] Re: Testimony regarding the "incorrupt" body of SFX
More speculative and cynical insinuations of a conspiracy. The Catholic Church does not declare an event a miracle on a whim. Had there been any evidence of embalming, which was unheard of at the time, it would not have been declared a miracle. Anyone who has seen the corpse od St. FX would know that there is no sign of mummification. > --- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no real physical evidence that the SFX > remains were not embalmed or mummified. The only > expert testimony from the two physicians was written > two and a half years after the physical examination. > This after-the-fact record is not acceptable as > expert > forensic evidence. > > Whether the body was embalmed or not can be easily > ascertained today if the Catholic Church allows it > to > be subjected to modern forensic chemical analysis. I > suspect this is not likely to happen. > > So the extraordinary supernatural explanation does > not > have even the bare minimum forensic evidence in > support of it, let alone the extraordinary physical > evidence required in such a case. > > There are numerous natural, semi-natural and > artificial mummies in Japan, Korea, China and other > parts of Asia. So this is nothing unusual from an > objective scientific standpoint. > > Cheers, > > Santosh > >
Re: [Goanet] Spiced up SFX
Eddie, I never demand the last word when posts are factual, logical and respectful, regardless of whether I agree with them or not. This does not mean that I will not defend my point of view, which I have spent a lifetime developing. > --- Eddie Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mario, > > I suggest you read my earlier posts. The suggestion > is not that the body is > preserved because it was shipped with other cargo > but that it was embalmed > and stuffed with spices - a simple but important > difference. > > However since you have backed down from your earlier > claim that St FX died > before the embalming was introduced, I close > discussion with you though I > expect you will have the last word as is your want! > > Cheers, > > Eddie > == > > However, since you have backed down from your > earlier claim > - Original Message - > From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Goanet] RE: Shroud of Turin > > > > Eddie, > > Please stick to some civilized form of debate > > language. First you quote someone who claimed > that > > St. FX was preserved because he was stuffed in a > > coffin and shipped with other cargo from Japan to > Goa, > > then you bring in the issue of mummification, when > any > > Goan would know that St. FX was not mummified, now > you > > introduce embalming, when there is no record of > St. FX > > being embalmed. And you have the nerve to call me > > pathetic? Pathetic is what you see in your mirror > > every morning. > >> > > --- Eddie Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> Folks, > >> > >> Pathetic Mario! When his back is to the wall, he > >> resorts to deleting his > >> earlier claims and clowning! > >> > >> Earlier he had written: > >> > >> >I am not aware of any human corpse that > >> > would not decompose in the tropical climate > >> between > >> > Japan and Goa in the hot and humid cargo hold > of a > >> > ship, in those days prior to refrigeration and > >> > embalming. > >> > >> So could he enlighten us as to when embalming was > >> introduced? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Eddie > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Goanet] RE: Thank-you, Cornel
If those who have converted to atheism had some basic respect for those who are religious, they would have no objections for the sensibilities of those who use religious imagery in their language. > --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't is surprising that a beautiful language like > Konkani (whether Romi or > Devanagri) has no simple word for 'Thank-you' > without resorting to > supernatural blessings? > > I hope some 'expert' on this list can enlighten us. > > Kevin Saldanha > Mississauga, ON. > > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:26:44 - > From: "cornel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: Salaam ali kum > --- > Hi Bosco > Surely, Dev Borem Korum would be objectionable to > many sincere agnostics > and > atheists.Why bring religion or God into this debate > at all? > Cornel > -- > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > >
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/02/06, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > BTW, why did YOU go looking for these cartoons? > Isn't > > it such prurient curiosity that is fanning the > flames > > here? > > > RESPONSE: Why do you visit ''Al Jazeera'' and post > on the site? Isn't that giving credence to that News > Organization? > > Preacher practice what you preach. > Mario responds: > This is a falsehood that Gabe has repeated in the past. I do not read Al Jazeera, and consider it to be a propaganda arm of the Islamo-fascists Al Jazeera has been given credibility by people like Gabe, who circulates articles that they publish. What I did was to rebutt the absurd allegations of one Scott Ritter, whose column was forwarded to me, and who claimed that Saddam Hussain had no WMDs. It happened to be an article that was on Al Jazeera.
Re: [Goanet] Re: the Shroud of Turin and the Shredding of SFX 2
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forgive me for speaking out of turn here but is it not at all > possible that the 'normal process of decomposition' was avoided > by clandestine means? After all, the Church of the day had > already decreed that Francis was destined to be a saint. > Mario adds: > To atheist conspiracy theorists anything is possible. How can such a baseless charge be refuted? Besides, there were many such miracles and Saints that were "de-certified" when credible evidence surfaced. St. Christopher is a prime example of a major saint who was declared a myth centuries after he was declared a Saint. There are other examples as well. > Kevoin continues: > > The incorruptibility of SFX's remains IS one of the > few reasons that there is such a strong Catholic presence in > Goa today. His effect on education in Goa was to enslave the > minds of a caste-ridden society to the guilt-laden religion of > Crucifixianity by offering them salvation from their earthly > masters. > Mario responds: > Even atheist evengelist, Kevin, has to concede that this was only ONE of the reasons. The caste system in Goa came from the original Hindu religion of most of the converts and had nothing to do with St. FX. Christianity is no longer guilt ridden, though it does provide a moral compass, which atheism does not provide, preferring whatever is convenient at any given time, of course within the legal system.
Re: [Goanet] Goans could turn into minorities soon
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://oheraldo.in/node/10045 > > Goans could turn into minorities soon > > HERALD NEWS DESK > PANJIM, FEB 18 - Cortalim MLA Matanhy Saldanha has > raised fears that Goans would be minorities in their own land > in the near future. > Mario observes: > Why would one be "fearful" of this? The last time I checked, Goa was a state in India, and the majority of it's citizens were Indians, excluding the occasional brown Portuguese.
Re: [Goanet] Bill Clinton arrives
Bill Clinton has arrived - hide the women. > --- Edward Verdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is what a Mumbai newspaper reported: > > No welcome, no meeting: Clinton to CM >By: Mayuresh Pawar >February 18, 2006 > > > Panaji: Former US President Bill Clinton failed to > receive a formal welcome > as per the state protocol, when he landed at the > Dabolim International > Airport, Goa, yesterday evening. > > As every action has an equal and opposite reaction, > Goa chief minister, > Pratapsinh Rane too failed to secure an appointment > with the charismatic > president, official sources said. > > http://web.mid-day.com/1news/nation/2006/february/131187.htm > > However, the Protocol Department, which takes care > of the VVIPs visiting the > tiny state, was not aware of Clintons visit. > > We have no information on his visit to Goa, quips > P Pednekar, > under-secretary of the Protocol Depatrment. > > Edward Verdes > == > Bill Clinton arrives > > BY HERALD REPORTER > http://oheraldo.in/node/9983 > > > The managers of Clinton Foundation, sources said, > had informed the Goa > government that the former US President didn't want > to have any kind > of formal welcome at the airport. Hence it was a > quiet affair with no > VIP at the airport to receive the former US > President. > > > > >
Re: [Goanet] Youth ordered to provide for illegitimate child
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://oheraldo.in/node/10053 > > Youth ordered to provide for illegitimate child > > HERALD CORRESPONDENT > MARGAO, FEB 18 A local court here has ordered a > youth from Salcete > to pay maintenance of Rs 1000 per month to a two and > half month old > male child born out of his relationship with a girl. > Mario asks: > What did the child do to be considered "illegitimate"? >
[Goanet] RE: DOCUMENT: On Goa's changing planning priorities...
--- Seems to me from a quick review that though the report talks about giving more importance to content than process, it ends up emphasising process i.e. bureaucratisation. The authors should highlight the key strategic issues (besides regional imbalances on which they harp) which are problematic in Goa. Then all efforts should be made to address them including through the setting up of decentralised units for planning, implementation, monitoring and control as needed. And there should be periodic reporting of progress to the legislature and public at large.
[Goanet] Re: Changes to Portuguese nationality law
The alteration to Portuguese nationality law gives importance to «jus solis» not to «jus sanguinis» as in the past and as stated in another response on this forum! For those of the second generation of descendants, five continuous years of residence by any one of the progenitors in the national territory is a must for obtaining "original" nationality (nacionalidade originaria). The residence limit is 10 years for nationality through naturalisation (nacionalidade por naturalização)! This is a 4th change to the nationality law after the previous one in 1983. This alteration applies to those born in Portugal (hic latet anguis). Merely a five years of residence visa is no longer a valid title for acquiring nationality. Check the following site for more details and you can also place there your inquiries: http://www.acime.gov.pt/ * I believe that those interested in Portuguese nationality should be able to follow all possible information in the authoritative sites in Portuguese language and be able to correspond in Portuguese! Teotonio R. de Souza - From: Bonefacio Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] PORTUGUESE PASSPORT To: goanet@goanet.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Could someone enlighten on the status of Portuguese Passports? I had applied in 1995 now nearing 51 years but till date no news,presume that i will get it and all the others waiting in vain like me either at the time we reach the death bed or should we say passport to the Grave.
[Goanet] CCP polls: Parrikar, Zuwarkar tie up
http://oheraldo.in/node/10106 CCP polls: Parrikar, Zuwarkar tie up BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, FEB 19 - Perhaps not wanting to face a defeat at the hustings by going on BJP label, Opposition Leader Manohar Parrikar has tied up with his bete noire-turned-friend Somnath Zuwarkar and others for the Corporation of City of Panjim (CCP) polls. For the 30 wards election which is scheduled for March 12, BJP members are riding piggy back with some Congressmen opposed to Town & Country Planning Minister Babush Monserrate, and as well as NCPmen. Parrikar has made it clear that the BJP is not fielding a panel on its own. Election is not fought on party lines, is his argument for not putting up a formal panel. In the last municipal elections held during Parrikar regime, BJP had a panel and though it had not won most of the seats, a majority was cobbled up. This time, the situation is different. BJP is not in power. And more importantly, Babush is making a determined bid to capture power of CCP. Realising that too many candidates would give advantage to Babush's panel, BJP leaders have been holding discussions with ex-Taleigao MLA Somnath Zuwarkar who had been arrested by Parrikar in 2001, Congress' Victoria Fernandes (Deputy Speaker and St Cruz MLA) and NCP leaders. The outcome is the finalisation of candidates who have filed yesterday and today. Parrikar camp is confidant that the anti-Babush panel would do well. This is also because the BJP is planning a blitzkrieg election campaign against the ambitious friend-turned-bete noire of Parrikar from Taleigao. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] ZP blames contractors over pending development works
http://oheraldo.in/node/10103 ZP blames contractors over pending development works BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, FEB 19 — The North Goa Zilla Panchayat (NGZP) has not been able to complete sanctioned developmental works even as funds are made available for the same. Apparently, 60 of the 85 works tendered in January this year are to be started, all because of contractors. Neither the contractors have started works, which were tendered to them nor they have signed agreement with Zilla Panchayat. The agreement has to be signed within seven days of awarding of tender, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Gurudas Pilarnkar told Herald on Friday. However, so far only one of the 60 contractors has signed agreement with NGZP. The NGZP has now issued notices to contractors to immediately sign agreement. Agreement contains details on how to execute the work, quality of work, other work specifications etc, adds Pilarnkar. After signing of the agreement, the technical section explains the work to the contractor. However, in case of sixty works tendered, none have so far approached the technical section, Pilarnkar said and expressed concern over non-completion of tendered works due to dilly-dallying of the contractors. About Rs 1.7 crore has been earmarked for 85 tendered works, while in the past. While earlier Zilla Panchayats were not able to execute developmental works because there were no funds, or delay in release of funds. Consequent to issue of notices about ten contractors have now approached NGZP showing wiliness to sign the agreement. While on one hand contractors have not begun works most unsuccessful contractors have not collected Earnest Deposit Money (EDM) — deposited at the time of filing of tenders. A contractor is required to deposit 2.5 per of tendered work amount as EDM while bidding for a tender while unsuccessful bidders are returned their EDM amount once tenders are opened. Thanks to non-collection of EDM amount, Rs 2.5 lakh is lying with NGZP, stated Pilarnkar. He appealed to unsuccessful contractors to at once collect their EDM from NGZP office. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Blood samples sent to UK
http://oheraldo.in/node/10084 Blood samples sent to UK NAVAPUR (Maharashtra), FEB 19 (PTI) — Considering poultry owners' demand to have a second opinion on the outbreak of bird flu in Navapur area, the Maharashtra government today sent samples of chickens suspected to have contracted the Avian influenza to a London laboratory. The government has sent samples to an international body considering the demand made by the poultry owners in Navapur, Minister for Animal Husbandry Anees Ahmed told a press conference here. This is for the first time that strains of bird flu have been found in India and the government would not take chances to investigate and confirm the existence of the virus, the minister said. To a question whether the report of high security Animal Disease Laboratory of Bhopal was reliable, the minister replied in the affirmative but said the State wanted to have second opinion because poultry farm owners were insisting on this. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Mashem dacoity: cops record statements
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=022036 Mashem dacoity: cops record statements NT News service Margao, Feb 19: The Canacona police have interrogated some persons in connection with the dacoity reported on Friday night at a house in Mashem, however so far no arrest has been made. The dacoity was committed in the wee hours of Friday, said the police. The car which was taken away from the house was found abandoned at Madditalap. Police sources said that the dacoits were wearing masks and were heard speaking Marathi, Hindi and Malyalam. As per information, eight armed persons, some of them wearing masks entered into the house of Mr Bhushan Prabhugaunker at Mashem. The dacoits after entering into the house first disconnected telephone connection and took away cell-phone from the family members. They took the family members in separate rooms and threatened them to kill and demanded to show the valuables and cash. In the process of searching the valuables they threw household items and other material here and there. Valuables worth about Rs 5 lakh were taken away after threatening the family members. While escaping from the house they used car of Mr Prabhugaunker. The South Goa SP, Mr Shekhar Prabhudessai along with a police team visited the site and guided the investigation carried out by the police inspector, Mr Eknath Ekosker. Sources in police said that case is being investigated from all the angles and they have recorded some statements. The police said that a case of dacoity has been registered and investigations are in progress. They went on to say that finger prints have been collected from the crime site and services of a dog squad were also utilised. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Poultry business in Panjim normal
http://oheraldo.in/node/10108 Poultry business in Panjim normal BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, FEB 19 - News reports about the first outbreak of bird flu in neighbouring Maharashtra failed to deter City resident Seby Fernandes, 44, from buying chicken from the Panjim Municipal Market on Sunday evening and vendors said business was not affected with chicken selling at Rs 64 per kg. Umesh, 38, a vendor, said in spite of the reports, he sold around 200 kg of chicken today. Shailesh Usgaonkar, 28, selling English hens bred at Usgao, said he also sold around 200 kg. But Afzal of Ruby Cold Storage, who imports chicken from outside Goa, didn't receive any stock. Police maintained a strict check at the three - Molem, Polem and Patradevi — border check posts. Officials said around seven vehicles with poultry products from the Maharashtra were sent back from the 'access' gate, which is a km away from the Patradevi Border Check-post. A constable at the Molem check-post informed that last night three vehicles from Karnataka were sent back. Even the Polem check-post remained vigilant. Since last night, not a single truck carrying poultry products has tried to cross, said an official. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] State gears up, keeps watchful eye on bird flu
http://oheraldo.in/node/10087 State gears up, keeps watchful eye on bird flu BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, FEB 19 – Development Commissioner J K Dadoo has said that within the next two days stringent measures will be put in place to keep bird flu in check and informed that around 200 blood samples sent to laboratories in Maharashtra and Bhopal had yielded negative results. He said no adverse reports have come in from neighbouring Karnataka and poultry products from that State could be allowed. However, not a single vehicle from the State was allowed to enter since last night, according to officials. Deputy Directory of Animal Husbandry Dr P G Bakhale said it was now important to control the movement of poultry that has already entered Goa from outside. There are around 50 poultry farms and 1,80,000 birds of hybrid variety. Mass vaccination will be carried out at all these farms as a preventive measure, he added. Bakhale pointed out that the H5NI virus, which caused infections in birds in Asia and Europe, has entered India for the first time, it is very dangerous and carries about 20 strains with it. For now, it was important that the chicken is well boiled before eaten, he cautioned. Conservator of Forests-Wildlife & Eco-tourism, C A Reddy, said special teams of the Forest Department have been posted at Carambolim and Chorao sanctuaries. "So far no abnormal deaths have been reported from these places, we are monitoring the situation." Reddy said last month we treated a Stork (a long-legged wading bird), which was sick. The bird's blood samples were sent for testing and everything was fine. The role of the Forest Department is limited to wild or migratory birds that carry the virus in their intestines, but usually do not get sick from them. Minister for Agriculture and Animal Husbandry, Mickky Pacheco, maintained that there were no adverse reports from any corner of Goa and all police stations have been alerted about the outbreak in Maharashtra. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] ‘Students can create awareness about ill effects of plastic’
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=022034 'Students can create awareness about ill effects of plastic' NT News Service Vasco, Feb 19: The Mormugao Municipal Council (MMC) chairperson, Mr Sharad Chopdekar stated that students are the link to the citizens as they have the capacity to make people aware about the ill effects of the plastic. He was addressing the students of Shree Susenashram High School in a function organised by the school in order to create an anti-plastic awareness among the citizens. On the occasion the MMC chief officer, Mr Elvis Gomes, MMC councillor, Mr Milind Naik, headmaster of the school, Mr Suhas Mhambre and Mr Rajesh Redkar were present. Speaking further, Mr Chopdekar said that plastic is non-degradable and causes great harm to living organisms. He also said that the plastics are very harmful to the environment and can cause a negative impact on nature. Mr Chopdekar asked students to make people aware of the ill effects of plastic and explain to them the importance of not using the same. The MMC Chief Officer, Mr Gomes explained the ill effects of the plastics to the students and informed them about the anti-plastic drive implemented by the council. Mr Mhambre and Mr Naik also spoke on the occasion. Earlier the students organised a rally to create awareness among the people and also had cleanliness drive of plastics in the Sada, Bogda, Jetty localities. The students also distributed paper bags in around 900 houses with the message of 'No Plastic' at Sada, Bogda and Jetty. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Govt will devolve more powers to panchayats: Shirodkar
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=022035 Govt will devolve more powers to panchayats: Shirodkar NT News Desk Panaji, Feb 19: Panchayat bodies should take up novel projects to bring into reality the concept of beautiful and developed villages, said the Minister for Panchayati Raj, Mr Subhash Shirodkar. The minister further told them to prepare plans for development works reflecting education, social and economic status besides infrastructure facilities to be created and developed in villages. Mr Shirodkar was addressing a large gathering of sarpanchas, deputy sarpanchas, panchas and zilla panchayat members on the occasion of the Panchayat Day celebration, organised by the Directorate of Panchayats in collaboration with All-Goa Panchayat Parishad at the Institute Menezes Braganza hall, Panaji, today. Mr Raajiv Yaduvanshi, commissioner and secretary of panchayats graced the occasion. "The government will devolve more powers and monetary incentives to panchayats to take up development projects in their area. The panchayats should take up various development projects to become more vibrant," Mr Shirodkar said. The panchayat bodies should strive to improve the educational, social and economic status of the people in their jurisdiction, he added and asked them to promote agricultural and other employment generating activities in their areas. "All panchayats in the state will be covered under e-governance to bring efficiency into their functioning. The special scheme to provide more funds to low income panchayats will be implemented soon," he informed. Mr Yaduvanshi, speaking on the occasion, said, "The stability in panchayat bodies is important for the development in villages" He said that the panchayat bodies should make proper use of funds for development works and be efficient in their functioning. He also added that the Info-Gram Scheme would be implemented soon. Mr Shirodkar and other dignitaries distributed awards to the best performing panchayats in four categories on the occasion. In category 'A,' the first award was given to VP Taleigao and Penha-de-France and Chicalim VPs were given the second and third prizes respectively. In category 'B,' the village panchayat of Balli was given the first prize and the second prize was given to Betora village panchayat while the third prize was shared between Navelim and Mandrem village panchayats. In category 'C,' the first was prize awarded to the village panchayat of Nagoa and the village panchayat Bhironda and Morlem were given second and third prize respectively. In category 'D', the first prize was given to Fatorpa-Quitla village panchayat while the Varkhand and Sirsai village panchayats were given the second and the third prize respectively. Mr Vinayak Naik, founder president of All Goa Panchayat Parishad (AGPP), Mr Alexio, president South Goa Zilla Panchayat, Mr Menino D'Souza, director of panchayats also spoke on the occasion. Mr N B Narvekar, project director, DRDA, Ms Margaret Fernandes, additional director of panchayats were also present on the occasion. Earlier, Mr Francis Fernandes, president, AGPP, welcomed the gathering. Mr V V Arlenkar, additional director of panchayats proposed the vote of thanks. Dr Dayanand Rao compered the function. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Will someone please translate Gabe's latest signature sign-off?
Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Take charge of 71 primary school premises, Govt told
http://oheraldo.in/node/10105 Take charge of 71 primary school premises, Govt told BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, FEB 19 - The North Goa District Congress Committee has strongly demanded with the State Government to withdraw all the 71 Government Primary Schools premises handed over by Parrikar Government three years ago to some Sangh Parivar organizations. NGDCC president Gurudas Gawas said that the organizations affiliated to the RSS have not increased the student strength and instead the enrollment has gone down in most of the schools. While handing the school premises to the Sangh Parivar organizations, then Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar who was also the Education Minister had said that the organizations would increase the enrollment and keep the schools afloat, Gawas reminded. He said some schools were surprisingly given to Mahila mandals (women's organizations) linked to the RSS when then Government had said defending its decision said that the school premises were being given to educational organizations. Gawas also said the Government should recover a rent from the organizations. In its attempt to saffronise education at the primary school level, Gawas alleged the BJP government had given the school premises for almost free. They had to pay only one rupee as monthly rent to the Government, he said adding that the PWD should have fixed the rent as the school buildings are maintained by the PWD. Gawas demanded that the Government should take back the school premises from the organizations and also recover rent after assessment by the PWD. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Testimony regarding the "incorrupt" body of SFX
--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone who has seen the corpse od St. FX would know > that there is no sign of mummification. > The above comment is funny. It proposes that anyone can tell if a 450 year-old body is mummified or not by simply looking at it. Is everyone born with an expertise in clinical forensic pathology? Can this guy tell us what the signs of mummification are? Cheers, Santosh
Re: Re: [Goanet] Sunday papers... some Goa links
Actually, I missed seeing the Indian Express article, which makes things more understandable. I was referring to the one in Sunday's Times of India... FN From: "Eddie Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/02/20 Mon PM 05:56:18 GMT+05:30 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Goa's premiere mailing list,estb. 1994!" Subject: Re: [Goanet] Sunday papers... some Goa links Re: Convoluted article on Wendell Rodricks The fullest account is probably: Headline: Indian designer war spills out in Colombo By Namrata Sharma Zakaria Source: Indian Express 17 Feb. 2006 at http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=88070 Sub-title: Wendell Rodricks says Delhi fashion house's MD got him stopped from going on ramp, Satya Paul's Kapoor denies it Full text: An unpleasant sideshow of Indian fashion industry unfolded in Colombo last week. Goan Wendell Rodricks, who was invited to a local fashion show on Saturday, was stopped when he was about to go on the ramp and take a bow. He ... Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Freelance Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 Skype/Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha www.bytesforall.net
[Goanet] Amendment to the Official Language Act Section 2 (c)!
A lot of support was shown by many MLAs from various political parties prior to the recently concluded Assembly Session (Feb 13-17, 2006) with regard to amendment to the Official Language Act section 2 (c). Did any of these MLAs either table the amendment bill or raise the issue as a private members' bill at zero hours in the house at the Session? If so, could someone please update us on this forum? Dev borem korum. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA godfrey gonsalves ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on Feb. 12, 2006! "According to information just recieved the sensitive amendment to the Official Language Act section 2(c) is also likely to be considered now that the meeting at Azad Maidan in Goa and Karnataka has already stirred the hornets nest. It is left to the MLA's like Francisco DSouza, Mapusa or Mathany Saldhana, Cortalim (subjudice) from the Opposition benches to either table the amendment bill to embarrass the ruling coalition INC NCP MGP Independent or raise the issue as a private members bill or at zero hours to ascertain the mind of the ruling coalition on the issue. Alternatively the MLAs viz Agnelo Fernandes, Calangute Aleixo Sequeira, Loutolim Giovanni Karl Vaz, Mormugao Victoria R. Fernandes St. Cruz Francisco Silveira, St. Andre could table the amendment for the ruling dispensation. A welcome move of the whole revival of the agitation 19 years that the Deputy Chief Minister Dr Wilfred A De Souza MLA Saligao of the Nationalist Congress Party and the coalition partner has publicly stated that he alongwith his other party MLA would support the amendment if tabled in the house at this session." _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
On 20/02/06, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RESPONSE: Why do you visit ''Al Jazeera'' and post > > on the site? Isn't that giving credence to that News > > > Organization? > > > > Preacher practice what you preach. > > > Mario responds: > > > This is a falsehood that Gabe has repeated in the > past. I do not read Al Jazeera, and consider it to be > a propaganda arm of the Islamo-fascists RESPONSE: Readers following this may want to test the veracity of Mario Goveia...please click on to the 'Al Jazeera' URL shown below and presto there is an article by one Mario Goveia! http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0824B2D0-2B70-4317-854A-287AD5CAEBA1.htm -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Re: Shroud of Turin and the Shredding of SFX
Jose, Mario, Eddie and Kevin, Now that you smart guys have shredded the Shroud, Will you put the Goan "Soupa De Pedra" with a little lime into the turin? :=)) Regards, GL
[Goanet] Portuguese Passports
It is very interesting to notice how popular it is the topic of "ethnic" Indians eager to acquire and be proud of their Portuguese nationality. Is there any affirmative action program to help minority "ethnic" Portuguese acquire and be proud of their Indian nationality? Why not? Regards Ricardo Nunes
[Goanet] Gabes salutations
BlankHello Gabe Peace be with you means TUJER AXIRVAD ASSON OR TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSON Where as ANI BOREM MOG KOR CAN BE TRANSLATED AS AND MAKE GOOD LOVE wow thats sexy tone. Jerry Fernandes Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England --- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Administrator. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this e-mail and any attachment for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. Jarir Bookstore ..not just a bookstore Visit us: www.jarirbookstore.com 20/2/2006
[Goanet] Wipro plans to set up R&D base in Goa
http://www.business-standard.com/iceworld/storypage_link.php?chklogin=N&autono=215878&lselect=1&leftnm=lmnu9&leftindx=9 Wipro plans to set up R&D base in Goa Our Regional Bureau / Mumbai/ Panaji February 21, 2006 Information Technology (IT) giant Wipro would start its research and development (R&D) project in Goa. The state government has already earmarked a land for the project, official sources told Business Standard. According to the information available, a land measuring one lakh sq mt has been earmarked in the Goa University campus at Dona Paula, adjacent to the IT Habitat planned by the Goa government. It may be recalled that Azim Premji, chairman of Wipro Limited met Goa chief minister Pratapsingh Rane and had expressed his interest to start the project in the tourist centric, Goa. Dayanand Narvekar, Goa IT minister, said, "We have decided to allot land to Wipro, since it's a big name in the IT sector. Whereas, other smaller companies would rotate around Wipro to make Goa as one of the best IT destination in the world." The allocation of land for companies at the IT Habitat at Dona Paula, which is about 8 km from the capital city, would commence from next month. "The IT Habitat will comprise companies with IT-enabled services, which is expected to generate employment for 10,000 youths in the state," Narvekar added. Narvekar further said that the IT companies intending to start their project at the IT Habitat, would be charged Rs 2,500 per sq mt of land in addition to Rs 1,200 to 1,500 per sq mt as infrastructure development charges. He said that the Goa government would only provide basic infrastructure like roads, land, power, broadband connectivity and sewerage. The plot size, which the IT entrepreneurs could build on, begins from one acre and goes up to 2-3 acres. "We are targeting second rung leaders, those who are good in the BPO industry. For, they can generate the kind of jobs Goa wants," the IT minister said. He further says, "We can't bring in many industries because it creates an influx of people from outside Goa and the resultant congestion. Goa has English speaking human resource - 1,200 Goan youth work in call centres outside the state and 400 are software engineers. Wipro has given me a list of 200 people working for them outside Goa. I want to bring them home." Socorro-Narvekar's constituency will also have an IT Knowledge Park. Talking about the park, Narvekar said,"It will be a knowledge city. For example, it will have an animation industry that will be encouraged alongside the IT. The project is expected to complete in a span of five years. We have already begun the groundwork to acquire land for the park." The IT minister optimistically concluded that once Wipro starts their operations in Goa, major IT firms will follow the footsteps and thereby make Goa into world's best IT hub. -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Fevrerachi 21vi, 2006!
Zo konn sokallim uxir uddtta tannem akko dis bhor choddfoddcho poddta. (He who rises late must trot all day.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/
Re: [Goanet] Bill Clinton arrives
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Clinton has arrived - hide the women. Mario, Goan women have the capacity to decide for themselves if they want to meet Clinton or not. On the other hand, I am glad that your women depend on you for their movements (or lack thereof.) Mervyn3.0 __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Ahteism does not provide a moral compass?
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christianity is no longer guilt ridden, though it > does > provide a moral compass, which atheism does not > provide, preferring whatever is convenient at any > given time, of course within the legal system. Mario, Canada is now a post-Christian society. The majority of people go to the places of worship only for ceremonial services. Laws are made by secular law makers and no longer encompass Christian thought. In fact, it is atheist thought that influences the laws of the land. For example, same sex marriage is legal. I believe the atheist influence on the law making process to be a good one and a counter point to those who blindly follow religious leaders. We DO NOT, for example, have religious leaders who advocate the "taking out" of Presidents of other countries. Such a person would be classified as a morally disturbed, here in Canada. Mervyn3.0 "The reliability of the person giving you the facts is as important as the facts themselves. Keep in mind that facts are seldom facts, but what people think are facts, heavily tinged with assumptions." - Harold Geneen __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Re: Plant identification
Oops, I had identified the Indian Silk Cotton tree without looking at the attached photo. Saw the photo. It is not the Silk Cotton tree but the Milk Weed plant "Calotropis gigantea". This plant is locally known as 'Ruiee'. Its milky latex is uised to soften the skin for extracting thorns from the flesh. It is used as a herbal insecticide in rice fields. Its papery fine seed is dispersed by silky white hair which look like the flowers of the Powder puff or the Rain Tree. Kids enjoy bursting the purple to mauve flower buds. Warm regards, Miguel On Sat Feb 18 19:07:22 PST 2006, Tine Albinus wrote: > Im contacting you with the hope, that you with your knowledge of Goa can > either help me yourself or know somebody knowledgeable about plants who can. > > There is one plant very common to Goa that Im trying to find the name of > in English and Latin. When I talk to people, they refer to it as Silk > cotton, but I havent been able to find anybody, who knows the real name. > > http://www.goanet.org/images/topics/EmailPhotos/Silk-Cotton.jpg
Re: [Goanet] Re: the Shroud of Turin and the Shredding of SFX 2
I see no reason to re-open the debate on which religion or worldview provides a better moral compass. http://www.robert-fisk.com/articles537.htm All religions hijack personal sentiments with threats of retribution or offers of rewards in a nebulous afterlife in exchange for complete devotion. But Christianity in general, and Catholicism in particular, takes that deep seated fear of the finality of death and thrusts it into the faces of their adherants mounted on an instrument of torture to evoke piety. The etymology of the word 'Cross' which has become synonymous with Crucfixianity is 'Torture'. http://www.designboom.com/history/cross_symbol.html says the cross had symbolic meaning before it assumed its christians connotations. it has been employed as a sacred, protective, or decorative emblem in almost every culture throughout the world. it has been found in china and africa, it appears on bronze age stones in scandinavia ; in ancient greece; in pre-columbian america, and in the euphrates-tigris region around 1500 B.C. the origin of the word cross is the latin word crux, from the verb cruciare, meaning to torture. when the successful new ideology of christianity began to spread, the worship of suffering also spread... and the promoters of apostles had the honor of having a torture rack named after them (like the cross of st. peter, the cross of st. andrew, the cross of st. phillip, etc.). Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. - Mario said: Christianity is no longer guilt ridden, though it does provide a moral compass, which atheism does not provide, preferring whatever is convenient at any given time, of course within the legal system. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: [Goanet] RE: Thank-you, Cornel
No-one can convert anyone else to atheism. It is a deconverted worldview that arises out of personal investigation and conviction from a multitude of 'faiths'. As a Goan, and an atheist, I am offended that we do not have a simple word of gratitude in Konkani that does not invoke divine blessings. I'm sure we can do better. If I have offended anyone's religious sensibilities through this thread, I am sorry. I did not mean to 'make faces' at venerated icons or am I about to run a rampage in the streets to avenge my prophet. Your prayers will be better served elsewhere. Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. Original Message: - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 06:20:48 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] RE: Thank-you, Cornel If those who have converted to atheism had some basic respect for those who are religious, they would have no objections for the sensibilities of those who use religious imagery in their language. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
