Re: [Goanet] Et Tu Churchill ?
Dear Borg, You are absolutely right! If we need to sort out the language issue ...confused through a generated smoke screen of script to mask the promotion of Antruzi Konkani almost exclusively through Church run schools [125 of the 137 private primary schools in Konkani medium are Church managed today; 4 out of every 5 Govt. Primary schools are in MARATHI medium], we need to do it without the help of politicians, save in amending the bill to define Konkani correctly or remove the definition entirely. Adv. Uday Bhembre, former MLA of Margao and current Chairman of Congress THINK TANK [Vichar Vibhag] talks to us of a roadmap for promotion of Konkani but has no plans for the Congress Govt. to convert GPS schools in Marathi meidum to the Official Language of Goa. Still he is a friend of the clergy so far. That should change, sooner rather than later. Will someone from the electorate ask Sardinha to make his stand on the GPS schools and the Official language as medium of instruction clear. Forget the script issue. Is the Congress willing to make a statement on Primary Education in Konkani in GPS throughout Goa?? Why the hypocrisy?? Sardinha is willing to take flak on Dhirio, not on Konkani. At least Churchill and Babush Monserrate are honest and straightforward. That is not something one can say of Sardinha, Digamber, Rane Parrikar, Dr. Willy or Dr. Misquita. Smart, yes. Honest, Never. That is why they share power in various permutations and combinations while Churchill and Monserrate are shunted out, more often than not. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:26:33 -0400 From: borg costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Et Tu Churchill ? Dear Wilson, You did the right thing talking to Churchill about the language issue. When you announce in Dubai about the Romi lipi my friend said to me, to tell you, to ask Churchill about the language amendment, cause last year you sang the songs on Mopa airport Romi lipi praising Churchill. To tell you frankly the politicians like Churchill want only the money fame. He joined the congress not because of Goa Goans but for fulfill his personal needs. They dont care about Goa Goans. Like Sardinha, Luizinho, etc..., Churchill used the tiatrists for his gain. Now, he got what he wanted he must be saying Tumi Tiatristak Xenttar mar chouda sorry but this is the fact. As you wrote Truth always wins. Politicians may delay that victory, but they cannot deny it. You are correct Mr. Wilson. Keep the fight going... Borgee --- Wilson Mazarello wrote: ET TU CHURCHILL ? By: Wilmix Wilson Mazarello When Brutus, the most loyal and trusted lieutenant of Julius Caesar, joined the revolt and stabbed him, Julius Caesar is said to have said in his dying moments Et Tu Brutus ?, meaning You too Brutus ?. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Colomba village - Illegal cutting of forest trees
Colomba village - Illegal cutting of forest trees Illegal cutting of forest trees is going on in a full swing in Colomba village to facilitate mining activities and the forest officials and the police are the mute in spectators inspite of lodging several oral and written complaints by the villagers. Villagers informed Herald that around 50 odd Forest trees have been cut by the mining company from survey No.95 of Colomba village by engaging around 8 labourers , which is going on since 12th July. When the villagers questioned the labourer and forced them to stopped on 12th evening they stopped the work on Friday but again on Saturday 14th July they started the felling work again. When the villager questioned the manager of the mining company who was supervising the felling work informed the villagers that they have obtained licence from the forest department which has been issued to them by the RFO of Curdi Range Shri Satyawan Fotte. when the villager demanded the copy of the licence he refuse to show them same and threatened the villagers with dire consequences. Informed the villager further . The Police complaint filed by one of the villagers on 14th July did not yield any result as the cutting work is going on unabated till today. When the Dy.Conservator of Forest South Goa Shri M. K. Bedi was contacted and asked about the licence if any his department has has issued to cut trees from survey No.95 of Colomba village informed herald that his department has not issued any licence to cut trees from Cotomba village. The forest department harasses even those who does kumeri cultivation in forest land however they do not take any action against these mining companies who cutting large scale forest trees and are doing extensive damage to the forest question one Soiru Sawant of Colomba . 'In the past no forest habitant such as monkeys used to come to village and never used destroy our plantation as there were vast forest area for these animals to move on but now as the mountain have been cleared to facilitate mining activities and forest area has been reduce these forest animals very often enter into our village and destroy our crop such as mangos, jackfruit, coconut etc. informed said Soiru. There are around 150 to 200 monkeys staying in the area where presently the cutting is going on , where these forest species will go if the trees on which they were moving/staying, ultimately they have to enter into our village. Moreover were presently the cutting is going on there were large number of medicinal trees . Informed one villager. The forest official who are looking after the forest land prevents us villager from even collecting dry wood from the forest , how these same official becomes mute in spectators when large scale felling of trees is being done by the mining companies, which means the forest official are in hand in gloves. Informed another villager. Photos by John Fernandes: http://www.goanet.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=34
Re: [Goanet] TALK: The Snakes of Goa
Don't forget to include the political snakes in the slide presentation. They are more dangerous than the usual kind. While normal snakes in Goa and elsewhere have their uses in nature's food chain and harm no-one unless disturbed, the Goa political snakes will not only poison the people but also the land. However it is very easy to eliminate the political kind. They congregate in Porvorim although their evil deeds affect all parts of Goa. Just feed them with the Goan wedding cold fish dish made with home made mayonnaise. Hope there are more Rahuls to be found in Goa. There is an urgent need for snake handlers now, more than ever. The voters don't seem up to the job. Roland. On 10/27/07, Goanet Events [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Literati invites you to a session on The Snakes of Goa by Rahul Alvares Sunday, 28th October 2007 at 11.30 a.m. There will be a slide presentation followed by a discussion. The talk will cover different aspects described in his book 'The Call of the Snake' including how to identify snakes, myths about snakes, how to deal with snake bites etc. Rahul's travels through the snake world of India which resulted in his book Free From School in which he describes the benefits of his year away from school shall naturally be a essential part of his presentation. For those of you who don't know Rahul, Rahul learnt snake handling at the Pune snake park, spider rearing at Madras, and croc handling under Romulus Whitaker at the Croc bank in Mammallapuram. Rahul has been retrieving snakes from human habitations in north Goa for the last eleven years and has rescued more than 800 snakes. He also edits an on-line newsletter on this work called The Creepy Times - http://www.geocities.com/rahulsnakesite/creepy.html http://www.literati-goa.com/ -- Roland Francis 416-453-3371
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Kaskutleo: Pi, pi, pi kiteak pitai re soro
Pi, pi, pi, kiteak pitai re soro. Hispa bhair soro kiteak mhonn piyecho? Kaim bebdeank oxo vichar kelear tanchea koddlean soroll zab mellta. Soro Jezun kela. Galileiachea Kana ganvant eka lognank soro sompun nhovro lojent poddta mhonn Jezun udkacher axirvad ghalun soro kello. Ani hi poili milagr vo khunnam vorvim xisamnim Jezucher visvas thevlolo. Punn bebde lok poile milagriche pattlavdar zaleat ani bebddikai korun aplea arogya ibaddtat. Soro vaitt oxem hanv mhonnonk sodinam. Punn vokhodd koso illo ghonntlear bholaikek ekdom boro mhonn amche purvoz sangot aileat. Ghelea sumanant kazu fenniecheo don botleo vikot ghevn sodam porim Babit-an vonntiche almarint dovorleo. To kaju xivai dusro soro piyenam. Ratche 8 horar igorjichea ghanttin avaz kelo mhonntoch jevnnam adim susegad aple don dose Babit-an ghenvche astat. Ani kedna-i chukon igorjicho sankistão ratchi ghantt marunk visorlo zalear, tea ratrik piyepak, Saibinnichi porvongi nam mhonn somzun to piye nastanam ravta. Frijintlem thondd soda ani mezavelo ek glas hatant dorun igorjiche ghanttin ratchim 8 horam zalim mhonn kollit kelea uprant almarixim gelo. Ani almar ugti kelear don-ui kazu fenni botleo gaib zalleo. To chintunk poddlo. He dis sade. Pirachitacho vo korezmancho khall nhoi. Oxe toren sorea botleo gobra vo xinze Budhvarak ani borea Sunkrarak almarintleo natak zatat. Punn aiz koslo dis kai? Oxo to chintnanim ghuspololo astanam dhaktti dhuv thoimsorlean pasar zatanam tinnem mhonnlem. Daddy kitem polleta? Kedov excise duty ofisar-an almarik dhadd (raid) marun don-ui botlea aplea tabeant dovorleat. Kazu fennicheo botli lipoun dovorpak, ho pirachitacho khall nhoi. Kuznant, chopati lattale baile sorxim yeun Babit-an mhonnlem. Hea disanim Bharot ani Australia modim ODI 50 overs choltelo krikett khell pollevnk ghull zallo asa tum. Ani India piddear zata tea disa tujem illexem subeij ghevop zata. Gõy Voizki Kolejichea (Goa Medical College) hospitalantlim 25% mornnam bebdikayek lagon zatat mhonn nond zalam. Bambolim Voizki hospitalant pavlolo duent monis boro zavn surokxit ghora porot pavla khoim? Ti mhaka khobor nam. Sangpachem mhonnlear, chalu vorsachea Mayeachea mhoineant Bambolim hospitalant 150 zannam meleant tim choddxim soreachea piddek lagon khoim. Bebdikayechea rostean cholle mhonntoch soro piyeun zatele piddek addaunk nozo. Soro monxeank kela ani nhoi monis soreak. Hanv koso, khoim, khoinchea vellar mansugen soro piyeta tem polle ani uprant mhojeo botleo zopt kor. Punn soro to soroch nhi? Favo titlo piyepi Gõykar atam uronk nam mhonn Voizki kolejintle dotor sangtat. Adim Gõykar, social drink he toren mansugi samballun piyetalo punn atam dusrea Rajantlea loka bhoxen Gõykar xime bhair pavla mhonn 25% sorean zalelim mornnam, soreachem noxtt unnem korunk Gõykarank xiddkavnni dita. Zonn eklean aplea jivachi kalji ghenvchi asta. Fugsanv, festam, ladayeno, kazarank funkot soro piyepak mellta mhonn ghonntint ravchem nhoi. Zolm, kazaracho dis ani yer dusre suvalleank (celebrations) whiskey, brandy, rum ditat tem hanv ghenam mhonn tum bore bhoxen zannai. Bar-anim vochun piyepachem hem mhaka tor bilkull avoddnam. Ani hech khatir mhozo dose ghora kodden kortam ani daddleaponn samballtam. Tem hanv manttam tujem. Punn aiche disalear chhapun aille khobren, mhozo jiv bhiela. Voiz astat te, aplea duentink favo tim vokhoddam ditat ani kitlo dose ghenvcho asa tem sangtat. Hea fuddem hanv ditam titloch tuzo dose ghenvcho. Mhonntokoch, hanv tuka Inas-a bhoxen zallo zai kitem? Kai borelo xezari Inas amcho. Avoi-bapaichea xistin vaddlolo bhurgo to. Ganvant taka khub nanv aslem. Bailen taka piddear kela mhonn lok uloita. Taka bail gavlea ti charismatic khoim. Inas-ak ghorant soro piyeunk dinam. Dekhunuch tannem barant vochun soro piyepachem dorlem. Aikolam, bar choloitele antichea mogan poddla mhonn to. Borelea dadleak piddear korunk konn bazabdar? Hanspachi gozal mhonnlear, Inas-ache charasmatic bailecho bapui, don soreachim baram choloita khoim. Him dhongiponnam nhoi? Jevnachea mezar jevonn kaddlem ani bhurgeank apoilim. Ragar zavn rostin kuznantlo koddsorun ghello ghorkar kitem korta kai mhonn ti pollevn gheli zalear tigelo ghorkar Babit nhesun bhair sorunk toyar zallo tinnem pollelo. Tum khoim vochunk toyar zalai? Sometimes I must taste outside food like Inas Naka! Naka saiba!!! (tinnem ekuch dhanv marli ani don-ui sorea botleo ghevn aili) He ge botleo. Hanvem aikolam Kitem aikolam? Babitan vicharlem Inas-an, aple bailechem gurguret ritem soddun anticho garrafão bhorla mhonn. CHINTUNK: Thodde pavtti ghorkara vorn bailechi huxarkai marog poddtta. Lino B. Dourado http://www.goa-world.com/goa/poems http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?config=gulf-goans_yahoogroups_comrestrict=exclude=words=Lino+B.+Dourado
[Goanet] Bishop/Diocese.
Hi Cornel, CORNEL: This response of mine was a specific reply to Eric Pinto who had absurdly claimed that Albert had forfeited his right to seek info about Church finances. CORNEL: I think my logic is pretty clear and specific to the context in which I made it re Eric Pinto. Do think about it! CORNEL: I don't agree much with what Albert says but I am damned if I accept Eric Pinto's explanation that Albert has forfeited his right to make an enquiry. RESPONSE: Since your response re Albert was related to Eric's contention: I get the impression that Albert has opted out of his former membership in the 'association' that is known as the area Catholic Diocese. If indeed he has, he then forfeits any moral claim to raise the demands listed in his complaint on Goanet. I have the same impression as Eric of Albert!! Albert gives the impression that he does not belong to the Catholic Church. And Eric and me are not the only ones who have this impression. I believe Selma, among others, alluded to this issue in more than one of her posts. CORNEL: I am simply questioning Eric Pinto's contention that it is not necessary to do because of his totally unrelated example from America. Did you not note his absurd example of the woman who left money for some institution? RESPONSE: Eric provided an example of legal precedence in the land of his residence. The case is what it is!! I am surprised you do not ask the simple question as you seem to ask me about the thread and relevance to Eric. RESPONSE: The issue I raised was about Albert having an inalienable human right... which I disagree about. CORNEL: Fr Loiola may indeed be a fine man as you say and I don't doubt you for a moment. Unfortunately however, despite several reminders, he failed to reply to me even privately and even out of simple courtesy. Is this what a fine man normally does? I doubt it! RESPONSE: I agree fine man is an intangible term..:-) When you flip the coin one would wonder whether a fine man would badger Fr Loiola. Why on earth did you think there was any onus on me, even suggestively, to visit him in Goa? Is there some kind of one-way expectation? RESPONSE: My suggestion was based on you visiting Goa periodically from time to time. It is unlikely Fr Loiola will visit London without somebody wanting to know at whose cost did. etc, etc...and we are back to square one!! CORNEL: As the Vatican has got itself in several messes over financial accountability, I am sure we would not want it to get into a further mess by one of its constituent churches in Goa by not perhaps having financial accountability. RESPONSE: I don't believe you or I can prevent or enhance any 'mess' that may come upon the Vatican/Church in Goa wrt financial accountability. The Vatican/Church in Goa is far bigger and resilient than the individual!! I'm getting off this carousel as I'm getting giddy.:-)) - Bosco
Re: [Goanet] Death by popot/To Venantius
--- Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will however post my bit just for you when I am done reading and anoiting myself with sandalwood oil high on my forehead, in the region of my third eye. He truly is a waste. Venantius -- Dear V'tius, I am touched. Not by Dinesh but by your kind offer to digest the book before spewing it out, just for me. I too was shocked to read that he was formerly Reagan's speech writer. He looks far too young to have been around during Reagan's time. I'm also shocked because he hangs out with left-wingers like Bill Maher (who I adore ofcourse). Infact the day, Bill Maher got in major trouble at CBS, Dinesh was his guest (I think if I recall correctly). That was a long time ago though and much water has flowed under the bridge since then. I wait with bated (not baited) breath to hear about Dinesh's justification for the perpetuation of Christianity in perpetuity.:-) take care, selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Macacas!
Mervyn, Be not afraid, O wise one, of being contrary! I have personally, during my regrettable youth, called many unfortunates macacas - as in many latin cultures all the way from Spain to Mexico! This reprehensible slur or 'monkey epithet' may be cross-referenced here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaca_(slur) The origin and etymology of the slur are covered rather extensively here (incl. even a 'Tintin' ref!), particularly in Patrice Lumumba's unforgettable 30th June, 1960, Congolese Independence Day speech accusing Belgian King Baudouin of presiding over a regime of injustice, suppression, and exploitation, before ending We are no longer your macaques!!, as the Congolese in the audience rose to their feet cheering hysterically! An extensive net-search of your version has been unsuccessful. I'm not too sure about 'Kaka' being of E. African origin either - shouldn't that be Indian? Anyway, what the heck, let's take up your suggestion - anyone hence, calling another a macaca should be summarily chucked into a US jail, without being charged! FR. . Mervyn3.0 wrote: FR, You are talking about another time and another place. In E. Africa, Kaka is elder brother. Makaka's are several elder brothers? I must insist that macaca as used by USpoliticians is a term for those who can be thrown into jail by the US without being charged. Unless, of course, someone here has another name for such people. .. Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macaca has been used derogatorily since time immemorial against coloureds (by the fair-skinned), deriding them as 'monkeys'! It's origin is from the Portuguese 'macaco' (monkey), and for example, was a pretty common insult to the locals during the Portuguese occupation of Goa. Even more hilarious, non-Portuguese speaking local kids took it to be a hyphenated insult (ma !), and died laughing! _ Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. Get them today! http://www.freemessengeremoticons.ca/?icid=EMENCA122
[Goanet] Old 'Bore Pul' Show (with a song)
Old 'Bore Pul' Show (with a song) http://is.rediff.com/filevideo.php?trans_id=1id=59498 also available at utube Good resolution show also available at flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://thisisgoa.com/ 0r http://youtube.com/joeukgoa ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
Re: [Goanet] Hindu Jagruti Samiti and Marxist Rubbish
On 26/10/2007, Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: To Goanet - . Why, I may even cut a cheque and donate to them, and ask friends to do likewise. It is always a pleasure to give Gadgil and his commie cohorts a fresh round of gripes. Warm regards, COMMENT: You don't have to inform all of us, that you will write out a cheque...even if it is for only two rupees ! What you give is your biz!...we don't need to know the gory details - if being 'Turked' is what you have an affiliation for, so be it, please though, keep it out of this respectable forum ! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Fourth Goan Cardinal, Oswald Gracias
Fourth Goan Cardinal, Oswald Gracias BY ZITO ALMEIDA His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI, appointed His Grace Archbishop Oswald. Gracias as Cardinal on 17th October 2007.If he has been the tenth cardinal of India, he is the fourth Goan cardinal after late Valerian Cardinal Gracias, Archbishop of Bombay late Joseph Cardinal Cordeiro, Archbishop of Karachi-Pakistan and Ivan Cardinal Dias, presently Prefect of the Congregation of the. Evangelisation of Peoples, Rome. The new cardinal, Archbishop Oswald Gracias thus become the member of the College of Cardinals that assists the pope in governing the universal Catholic church, He will be created cardinal at the consistory that will be convened on November 24 , at the Vatican during which a formal assent of all the cardinals present at the ceremony will be given and each new cardinal will receive the red hat from Pope Benedict XVI. We pay homage to this illustrious son of Goa, assuring Archbishop Oswald Gracias our prayers and good wishes, Reverend Dr. Oswald Gracias, was born on December, 24 1944 at Mahim-Mumbai, his parents being, Aduzinda and. Jervis Gracias, originally from Orlim, Salcete, Goa, He had a brilliant academic career and holding various responsible posts in the archdiocese of Bombay and CBCI/CCBI. Reverend Dr, Oswald Gracias was appointed Auxiliary-Bishop of Bombay on June 28 1997 and his episcopal ordination took place on September 16 at St. Michaels Church, Mahim, his motto being: To reconcile all things in Christ. From 1998 to 2002 he was the Secretary -General of Catholic Bishops Conference of India, From 1998 to 2005, he was the Chairman CCBI Commission for Legislative Texts. On September 7 2000, Bishop Oswald Gracias was appointed archbishop of Agra and he was installed on 23rd November 2000. In2001, Archbishop Oswald Gracias was appointed Vice-Chairman, Vox Clara Committee, Congregation of Sacraments, Rome. In 2002 he was the 8Ath chairman, CBCI Commission for Social Communications and Chairman NISCORT and also in 2002, he was the Chairman, CBCI Commission for Law and Public Interest Litigation. And from 2005, he is the President of Conference of Catholic Bishops of India. He appointed Archbishop of Bombay on October 14 , 2006 and was installed on December 14, 2006. We thankHis Grace Archbishop Oswald Gracias, for the wonderful work done. for the reconciliation of all, the members of the Society of Pilar. As Holy Sees Apostolic Facilitator/Visitator to the Society of Pilar, Archbishop Oswald Gracias tried and worked very hard to reunite all the members of the Society of Pilar, with the special efforts of archbishops of Goa and At this moment we remember the prophetic words of Er, Agaelo, who said: The Society of Pilar will never die. The finger of God is here: Pilar May God Bless Archbishop Oswald Gracias. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=3479cid=26 Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] HAPPY FEAST
WISHING ALL QUEPEM-KAR A HAPPY FEAST. Mog assumdi, Tumcho khalto, Sanny De Quepem - Kuwait Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Why are Goan NGOs not objecting to this atrocity?
--- Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Maina-Curtorim police took her into custody after her anticipatory bail application was rejected. She was taken to the Goa Medical College (GMC), Bambolim for medical examination. -- Over the last couple of years I have seen women's rights steadily being eroded all in the guise of the nanny-state out to protect their rights. First came the proposed mandatory HIV testing, which would protect women from AIDS infections. Then came salwar-kameez uniforms to help them with sporting activities. Then came monitoring of pregnancy ultra-sound clinics, who would be held accountable if they gave out details of the fetal gender. Then came the decision that women under 30 years of age would no longer be able to earn a livelihood as unskilled labour in the lucrative Gulf States. Now, we are told than an examination of this woman's body will reveal whether or not she molested a nine year old boy. Perhaps I'm missing something, but never have I heard that an examination of a male suspects body was carried out to form the basis of culpatory evidence. Rape and molestation are very difficult crimes to prove but they are just as equally easily to allege. We have to be ever protective of victim's rights but we also have ensure in a just society that the accused is given a fair trail and not subjected to a kangaroo court. So why are the NGOs not crying foul? To me the extent of cultural evolution in a society is reflected by the equitable and participatory role women play in it. It's very easy to erode womens rights. It's usually done under the benign guise of protecting them. Little by little their ability to take decisions for themselves is undermined and soon there is nothing left but a disadvantaged section of society with their civil rights totally curtailed. The sad reality is, women need more protection from such paternalistic, patronising and pandering shenanigans then they need from anything life has to throw at them. selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Death by popot
--- Frederick [FN] Noron ha * फà¥à¤°à¥à¤¡ रिठन à¥à¤°à¥à¤à¤¯à¤¾ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You came in late, Selma. This has been debate, fought over, and certified. Ask Eddie Fernandes. FN -- FN, Have you tried yes or no answers. :-) selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Medical report confirms sexual assault. Really?/to Miguel
--- Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Selma, Virginity of the spinster is not an issue. It is not the proverbial Big issue about a small piece of tissue. Forensic science has advance since the time when the doctors discovered seven little dents on the Maidenhead of Goldilocks! --- Hi Miguel, I'm trying to find this story on the net but for some reason I cannot. Not even on Herald. Can you or Sanny keep us informed about it. I'm really curious to know what sort of evidence an examination will reveal. To the best of my knowledge a nine year old is incapable of preforming any sexual act (voluntarily or under duress) that would leave incriminating evidence. To me it seems like a gross violation of the woman's rights. selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Hey !
Thanks Gabe, and all who've mailed! Quick word: I was quite overwhelmed, 6 months ago, by the unexpected (?) response from Goanetters, when I experienced a 'visual' problem, and had to take leave of absence from cyberspace. The sheer volume of calls (and mails which I only read much later), quite threw me - from all corners of the globe, but most particularly, the 'tough ol' US! Thanks guys - in particular, folks who kept calling often on a daily/weekly basis - Arnold Noronha, Silviano Barbosa, Bosco D'Mello, George Pinto, Dr. Jose Colaco, Richard Silveira, Roland Francis, Kevin Saldanha, JoeGoaUK, Mervyn Lobo, Olavo Athayde, many more - even spoke with Fr. Joachim Loiola Pereira, Fred Noronha - others who met personally, Cornel Da Costa, Gabe Menezes, Sunith Velho, Cecil Pinto, Eddie Fernandes, Jacob De Souza, Victor Martins, Miguel Braganza, Nasci Caldeira, Dexter Martins, Tony Fernandes, and lotsa others, too numerous to mention! I can't mention all the female Goanetters who called (!), obviously, but Judaline, Olinda, Jolainne, Vilma, etc. etc., you all know who you are! Thanks awfully guys! Despite the rapid-fire exchanges, Goanetters are a rather caring bunch it seems. Now who would ever have thought that...! The most-asked question - 'Aunty'?? Perhapsnow that I've finally been allowed access to my computer, though it's been 6 long months, her mails have piled unimaginably, and I actually thought she perished in that hunger-strike with Victoria! Anyway, great to be back, let's party! FR. ... Gabe Menezes wrote: Welcome back Francis! The answer to your question: Karl Marx's grave was definitely not a Water Gate affair, it was in fact a High Gate situation ! _ R U Ready for Windows Live Messenger Beta 8.5? Try it today! http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger
[Goanet] Bahrain Goans Football League
Bahrain Goans Football league are holding the captains and Managers meeting at the Konkan Singers Club 8.30pm TODAY, Call going out to anyone intrested in playing for Calangute Football Club must contact Simon on 39025546
[Goanet] Man shoots sister in Mumbai's Cuffe Parade area
Man shoots sister in Mumbai's Cuffe Parade area PTI Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:14 IST MUMBAI: A 40-year-old woman was allegedly shot at by her younger brother over some property dispute at their residence in the plush Cuffe Parade locality of South Mumbai in the wee hours today, police said. Lalit D'Souza (37) fired at his sister Laura in their seventh-floor residence in Sayonara building at around 0330 hours, police said. D'Souza, who owns the Lalit Bar and Restaurant in South Mumbai, surrendered before police immediately and also deposited the revolver used in the attack, they said. Laura was rushed to a nearby hospital and some surgeries were performed on her. She is recuperating at the hospital presently. http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/mu.html Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Medical report confirms sexual assault. Really?/to Miguel
ALL NECESSARY REPORTS FORWARDED TO Carvalho Elisabeth AS REQUETED. Mog assumdi, Sanny de Quepem - Kuwait - Original Message From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:20:35 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Medical report confirms sexual assault. Really?/to Miguel --- Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Selma, Virginity of the spinster is not an issue. It is not the proverbial Big issue about a small piece of tissue. Forensic science has advance since the time when the doctors discovered seven little dents on the Maidenhead of Goldilocks! --- Hi Miguel, I'm trying to find this story on the net but for some reason I cannot. Not even on Herald. Can you or Sanny keep us informed about it. I'm really curious to know what sort of evidence an examination will reveal. To the best of my knowledge a nine year old is incapable of preforming any sexual act (voluntarily or under duress) that would leave incriminating evidence. To me it seems like a gross violation of the woman's rights. selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] B-grade fairy tales
On 28/10/2007, Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B wrote: btw what do you think I should do? agree with gadgil sabnis and others and badmouth the RSS? circulate biased white papers about imaginary problems faced by muslims in goa?. ... And don't send your private mails to apologise… Like the legendary Shishupal, my quota of forgiveness for you, is over... No regards for your BULL Pravin Pravin K. Sabnis visit: www.unlearningunlimited.blogspot.com www.poems-pravinsabnis.blogspot.com www.monday-muse.blogspot.com COMMENT: Well and truly caught out, is someone's Chicken country nephew. Claims of receiving loads of, support emails, just as previously, one from Toledo used to. This is not the first time that apologies in private have been proffered...remember Cecil ? What style, insult in public and then offer an apology in private ! Chicken country nephew, is attempting to canvass support, by directly sending emails to many it seems ! how pathetic. I'm just a lonely boy ( oops girl ) lonely and blue, I'm all alone with nothing to do..goes the lyrics of a oldie by Paul Anka. http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/paul_anka/lonely_boy.html DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Medical report confirms sexual assault. Really?/to Miguel
Let us not play the role of self-appointed investigator or judge in cyberspace. To me, the growing number of sex-crimes in Goa (quite a few involving very young children) suggests that there's something serious going on in society which we really can't cope with. These are times of transition, speedy transition, from one mindset to another. Can we look forward to more human definitions of the problem and possible solutions, if any? FN -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 11866 downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
[Goanet] Hundreds hold candle light vigil for dead sailor
Hundreds hold candle light vigil for dead sailor Daily Echo: Oct. 28, 2007 9:24am today By Lucy Clark HUNDREDS of Fawley residents united last night at an emotional candlelit vigil to commemorate Gregory Fernandes. The 32-year-old sailor from the Indian state of Goa collapsed and died following a race-hate gang attack in the Hampshire village on October 20. Exactly one week after the assault when up to 20 youths attacked Mr Fernandes, Fawley residents pulled together to pay their respects to him and his family. About 300 villagers and New Forest East MP Julian Lewis attended a special service in a packed All Saints Church before silently walking to The Square, where the attack on devout Christian Mr Fernandes took place. At The Square, they held a two-minute silence before lighting candles. The Rev Barry James, who led the church service, said: The community is in shock. People are dismayed and ashamed of what happened here, in what is normally a quiet Hampshire village. We wanted to acknowledge what happened and express our feelings of solidarity, as well as to show Gregory's family that we are remembering him and that we care. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/latest/display.var.1791585.0.hundreds_hold_candle_light_vigil_for_dead_sailor.php Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Goa is Best State in India in 2012
Goa has been adjudged as the best State in India for the third year in a row in 2012. Its universities are among the best in the land -comparable to the IITs. Goan students are getting into medical colleges and Engineering colleges in large numbers. Goan industry is booming. Goans are wealthy and well off - What is the reason for this dramatic difference in the fate of Goa ? Their government is led by Manohar Parrikar an IITian turned Chief Minister. IITians are the very best students in the country. They are well known for their sharp minds and world wide networking skills. That Goans have an IITian as Chief Minister makes all the difference. Manohar Parrikar is unique. He is a clean and clever politician. He has vanquished all his rivals in Goa. Even Dr. Wilfred Mesquitta his long time rival has realized Manohar's potential and decided in the best interests of Goa and Goans not to contest Manohar and the MGP in the upcoming elections. Ten years from now we will all look back and realize how Goa has become the Best State in the Nation. We will have ourselves to pat on the back for putting Manohar back in office a CM. Viva Goa ! Viva ! Viva ! So Goenkars the futre is in your hands, Vote for Manohar Parrikar in the next elections and make you rosy future come true !
Re: [Goanet] Medical report confirms sexual assault. Really?
To Selma I am in total agreement with your sentiments (see below, in full as written of what you posted on this forum). Not everyone will agree and this response is to them, not to you, I am only agreeing with you on this subject. There are some people (I know of SIX by personal experience) on his forum that wish to nit pick part sentences will attempt to throw you off-balance here make you out to be siding with the police, they have ways of doing this, just the OPPOSITE of what you say here. That is why I have not portioned off your post here, it happened to me on half a dozen occasions just this last 2 weeks. I do wish those who have nothing else to do with their time on this forum find another way out of their miserable lives, instead of always biting ankles like a small dog trying to scare you off the (garden) path, by ripping at the trousers or the skirt hem, or your ankles, and growling!! but for NO constructive reason other than to be a nuisance, such as a mosquito on a balmy evening.. Anyone who disagrees with the sentiments that Selma has posted, just below Sanny de Quepem, regarding this teacher, please stand up. Ok, ok, we cant see you so maybe you can either i) leave the room or ii) post here, with your REASONS why the sentiments mentioned below are disagreeable to you. DONT bother cutting down or summarising any of the sentences to fit your answer, just reply please, in FULL. We can read, we can also read between the linesand of course we will know when you have cut sentences in your reply. I await with bated breath. I appear to be waiting with bated breath on some other posts I put on this forum, but received none, except abuse. John Monteiro Berkshire, England NB : And that will include the SIX posters (including the FOUR who sent me personal emails) vilifying me for my opinions on similar or associated subjects this couple of weeks?! - --- Sanny de Quepem wrote: Asked whether it can be established that the victim boy was assaulted by the lady tuition teacher, the Colva police inspector said that only when the teacher is arrested and subjected for medical examination the police be able to establish the truth. -- I'm so disheartened by this story. On the one hand if the woman in question did molest this child then she has to pay the full penalty under the law. On the other hand, it seems to have brought to the fore all the misogynistic assumptions made by our society. In our Goan society, where getting married and having children is the norm, women who fail to fulfill this role designated for them are reviled. They are the but of all jokes, with special pejorative terms like beatul and azudre coined for them. I attended a tiatre about two years ago which was replete with such abuses hurled at one of the unmarried characters in the play, and the crowd churlishly cheered on in agreement. Much has been made of the fact that this woman is a 40year old spinster. Pedophilia is not a disease born out of deprivation but a sickness of the mind, and hence a 40 year old married woman with 10 children could be just as susceptible to it as a unmarried 40 year old.Secondly, why is the assumption made that the spinster is a virgin. Could she not be engaged in a healthy sexual relationship with a man outside of marriage? How will an examination of her body prove assault on the child? Is this the sort of evidence we are depending on to prove our cases in Goa these days? If so, I am afraid very afraid for our society.Selma --
[Goanet] reply for bosco
Dear Bosco: everyone is not as articulate as maybe you and your friends like gabe, fred,gadgil are.. as regards my posts regarding the church and paedophilia plese read the in the context i gave that example to jason..i admit that usin the paedophilia card to counter every person with a catholic name is a bad idea..so is using the marxist label. but jason himself said that he is a member and dissents when he sees fit and ll that..vidyadhar is a self proclaimed marxist..so calling him one is ok I guess..so is Puniyani. once again i can not help it if my posts appear totally off track or one track for you..i can not help it in fact you might have noted that Gadgil has refused to answer questions that i asked.. regards b __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Beautifully written Agnelo -- Goa Bishop in San Francisco
Hi Cedrico I was glad to hear from you that you believe that the caste system is in decline in Goa. Hopefully, it will become obsolete as soon as possible. I think I can accept Agnelo's view that there are more urgent priorities facing Goa right now with so much structural change taking place fairly rapidly. However, constantly pricking the caste balloon is also important not only to demolish those Margao Brahmins you referred to but also to empower the non Brahmins so as to to take on the Brahmins at every opportunity regarding their caste racism. I hope to visit Margao sometime reasonably soon and would appreciate a little info as to exactly where these Bamons are supposedly holed up and located geographically and how in your view, Brahminism prevails. For me, just driving around to observe their increasingly decadent surroundings would be of considerable interest. I happen to be in London and I know you are in Dubai. I have enjoyed your material on football and other matters in the Gulf. Kind regards Cornel cedrico dacosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Agnelo, Much has been going on these days and long discussions about the church, caste system etc in Goa. Well initially we are given to understand the divide began at the church committees itself, mostly called the confrarias. many bramin priests, or some who thought they were bramins promoted this bramins first policy. Ask me, in Margao...till date such braminism prevails.
Re: [Goanet] Priest are Perps, says Ana Maria Fernandes...............
Ana, I am so surprised to read your post. Around which areas in Goa (or anywhere else in the whole wide world) are these churches you say are infested with maggots breeding and which (Catholic) Priests with fat bank accounts, and who is full of sex lust? A damning statement, but where is the proof? What you have said so far could easily be mistaken for one of the corrupt politicians house(s). Or worse someone you KNOW has made you blurt this out, because you KNOW something, but cannot tell it on this forum. If I am right, just email us individually and NAME the person you KNOW. That way, you have done a confession, been forgiven for attempting to accuse unjustly and been pardoned, all without having to resort to one of God's messengers whom you feel uncomfortable to be near anyway. I am assuming you are a Catholic and that you have an axe to grind (or plant) somewhere where it will do most good. I am afraid it has not done any good here, because you associated yourself with Albert who is well known for his rantings and accusations, false ones (never brought any proof to the table about anything he has posted here in all the (short) time I have been posting on this forum. Please Ana, you are made of better stuff than that. Let it go, but if you cannot, then bring something to the table that we can get our teeth into, not a reason for someone to knock them out! Write MORE not LESS, you are worth MORE than the people you accuse, just bring it to the table and show us the proof. We want to believe you and I am sure you want us to belive you? Kind regards John Monteiro 27.10.07 19.32 hrs PS I hope everyone remembers (in the UK) to put your clocks BACK one hour, we are to gain an extra hour's sleep tonight. But as usual this post will appear several days from now I guess, so its academic really. Agnelo Gomes is not any authority to condemn any one. He is presumed to be a lay person just like Albert and me the fact is the church is infected with maggots which breed on money greed and sex lust. There are priest who have big fat bank accountsI being a girl know the talk and behavior of many priests and the less I write better it is. Ann Marie
[Goanet] do you like classical music?
Do you like classical music? This is the enquete of the site www.bene.pro.br. And the goans people? Goans like classical music or not? We want to know. Bene Rodrigues The webmaster of the site Please go to the enquete.
Re: [Goanet] Manohar parrikar - right choice for CM
Please follow the link http://thegoan.blogspot.com. I feel Parrikar needs to be given a chance to form govt with full majority. I had a chat with Parrikar over the phone when he was trying to form the govt taking support from Babush. He said he was constrained by the current state of poiltics and had no choice but to form govt if Goa were to be saved from land sharks, corruption and bankrupcy. He said it would be ideal for Goa if every politician was non-corrupt and dedicated for Goan's well being, but the reality was far from this and hence he had to live with such constraints. He would himself follow his ethics even if he were to side with Babush. He explained this to me for about 20 min without having met/known me. After I had this talk, I fully understood his determination and the reason behind him making a U-turn. It is true that he had a centralized administrative style. But that is what is required while dealing with govt servant babus. A near impossible feat like IFFI 2004 could never have been achieved had he delegated work and expected it to get done somehow. IFFI is an investment. The cost that everyone complains about will be recovered in the years to come by way of tourism and fame. Cajetan Rego, Tivim Goa Bhandare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Anamika: Your sentiments are riht on target.Parrikar is the most dynamic and honest politician we have right now Politics is neve as easy as choosing between good and bad, rather it is the tough choice between the lesser of two evils... Critics of parrikar will find 100 ways of pointing out his faults but what is the choice we have? maybe parrikar is not ideal but relative to the others that we have he is the best regards B __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Congress tries to win back MGP’s suppor t
Congress tries to win back MGPs support THE HINDU: Sunday, Oct 28, 2007 Special Correspondent Seeks withdrawal of petitions against two MGP MLAs PANAJI: The latest move by the ruling Congress to seek the withdrawal of the pending disqualification petitions against the two MLAs of the Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party (MGP) is widely regarded as the Congresss bid for rapprochement with the MGP. It is to prevent potential threats to the partys prospects in the ensuing byelection to the south Goa Parliamentary Constituency and eventually to its Government from its present ally, the two-member Save Goa Front (SGF) led by Churchill Alemao. Ironically, Mr. Alemao is occupying the Ministerial berth which was vacated by Ramkrishna Dhavlikar, MGP MLA, ahead of the unsuccessful toppling bid against the Government in July. The political coup spearheaded by Mr. Alemao eventually proved suicidal for the unsuspecting MGP MLAs who joined it. They ended up with disqualification petitions which also led to withdrawal of their voting rights by an ex parte ad interim order of the Speaker. Having failed to pressure the Congress into allotting party ticket to his daughter, Mr. Alemao is unhappy and has even gone public describing it as a betrayal. Anxious to return to local politics, Mr. Alemao raked up some local issues and resigned as Congress MP of south Goa ahead of the June 2 Assembly election float his own party. Having succeeded in winning merely two seats, Mr. Alemao found himself marginalised in the local politics. Using his political astuteness, he lured the BJP and other fringe groups to join him to make a strong bid to topple the Congress-led Government within two months of the election. But later he ended up joining the Government forcing the MGP out of the coalition. Influence While the south Goa Constituency has a major influence of Catholic voters, the Congresss move of rapprochement is also guided by its desire to see this erstwhile ally back on its side in the poll when it faces the BJP in the Hindu-dominated areas of this constituency where Pradesh Congress president Francisco Sardinha is locked in a battle with Wilfred Mesquita of the BJP. Ironically, the legal validity of the Congresss move is facing a scrutiny from within. Former Union Law Minister Ramakant Khalap and former Goa Law Minister Kashinath Zalmi, both erstwhile MGP leaders, are now in Congress and have taken a public stand that the Speaker has no right to allow withdrawal of petitions as it has become the property of the House. http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/ga.html Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] AVC's Enchantment Nite
AVC Overseas Sports Cultural Association Kuwait presents the show of the year Enchantment Nite' on 15th November 2007 at the glittering Al Sief Ballroom at Ramada Hotel in Riggai Kuwait. For the first time in Kuwait it will be purely non stop dancing with prizes and surprises galore as the night sways by. To get you in the enchanting groove flies all the way from New Delhi Blackslade' the kings of rock, pop, techno and reggae in India. This group has now become the brand name for corporate showbiz in most cities of India. They are also the favorites in Kuwait having performed to packed shows in the past and now are one of the best live bands in India today currently performing live at Crowne Plaza, Surya in Delhi. They are going to unleash their new music inventions at the Nite like never before in Kuwait. Joining them is our very own Deep Impact' who have carved a niche amongst the young crowd and now has been considered as the best in Kuwait. DJ music is and always will be in reckoning with many plying the trade, but few have made it on a big stage and one of these big timers is the elegant DJ Marlon who will jam up at the Nite with this latest selections. The host for the night will be the one and only famous Lloyd D'Souza. So folks gear up for this unique event which promises to be awesome. SriLankan Airlines are the Official Carriers for this event .For reservations call: 9800986, 7271550, 7651460, 9797348, 9189820, 6486011, 7326549, 9849649, 6209459, 7123622 6221412. Watch out for more as events fold.
[Goanet] NYTimes.com: A Tale of Tragic Love Cracks Calcutta's Mirror
This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi FN Goanet, Do Goans inter-marry? Thanks. Have a nice day. Ruby Goes WEEK IN REVIEW | October 28, 2007 The World: A Tale of Tragic Love Cracks Calcutta's Mirror By SOMINI SENGUPTA A Muslim takes a rich Hindu bride and ends up mysteriously dead. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/weekinreview/28sengupta.html?ex=1194148800en=d7681024540c09c2ei=5070emc=eta1 -- ABOUT THIS E-MAIL This e-mail was sent to you by a friend through NYTimes.com's E-mail This Article service. For general information about NYTimes.com, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company
[Goanet] Manohar Parrikar - to Floriano
Dear Floriano You said Anamika is not a non entity but in fact you and your so call su ? raj party is a non entity in Goan politics. We do not need the pigmies to proselytize us on who is good and bad for Goa. Yor allegations against Parrikar are totally fabricated, spurious, deceptive, and importantly unproven. Do I need to list the numerous scandals of your debauch, scoundrel Congress Cronies over their all these years rule in Goa !! Show some mettle to expose them as well. Manohar Parrikar is credited with bringing the BJP to power in Goa. He is also credited with single handedly bringing the IFFI to Goa, and creating more international quality infrastructure in Goa for the event in a short time than any other former government. He is also known to be a man of action, and principles He has been the moving force behind the BJP's growth in Goa. His meticulous style of working and organisational skills has succeeded in creating a moralistic image of the BJP in the minds of Goans, who, keeping aside their reservations about its communal tag. During his tenure in the assembly as an opposition member, Parrikar made an impact with his uprightness and exposed several scams, including the infamous power scandal. Vinay
[Goanet] Gadgils reply to rajan parrikar
My dear gadgil i thoght that after staying in goa you must have learnt by now their dislikes and likes.One thing they really hate is- shitting and urinating in public. Non- goans and specially the indian tourists seem to have taken this for granted.And as i wrote in my earlier post, it is due to the goodheartedness and hospitality of goans that they tolerated this filthy behaviour from our guests who we did not invite but they came to see the civilised part of India.They often come in busloads, bathe,urinate and defecate in public places and hang their cloths for drying in muncipal gardens.Goans when go touring in other parts of country dont do such things.All these people are used to do these things in their own states and maybe gadgil is used to them and still tolerating such behaviour , but he should not expect us to do so and call names to those who point out such issues.These tourists are better off staying where they are or visit other part of country where such behaviour is accepted. Goa should put up posters all over telling tourists that they are not allowed to shit and urinate in public Cheers Nelson
[Goanet] THE NAVHIND CRIMES: BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHER STUCK TOGETHER
A College principal accused of molestation. The accusation is endorsed by the Goa State Commission for Women. And yet the Principal continues to write a career-counselling column in a Goan leading daily... How morally sound is the media? Read more on penpricks http://penpricks.blogspot.com/2007/10/navhind-crimes-birds-of-same-feather.html
[Goanet] Iffi limits delegate entry to 5,000
Iffi limits delegate entry to 5,000 By Pamela DMello Panaji: Iffi organisers have decided to limit registration to 5,000 for the film festival that starts November 23-December 4 in Goa. ESG CEO Nandini Paliwal said the restriction was due to limited theatre space. A memorandum of understanding was signed between the Goa government and the directorate of film festivals on Thursday. State authorities will be providing logistics and hospitality to invitees as per the MOU. The festival will screen Indian panorama films in feature and non feature sections, besides 60 award winning films from forty countries in the cinema of the world section. A competition section will have 14 feature film entrees from Asia, Latin America and Africa, vying for the golden and silver peacock awards. Proportional delegate pass sharing worked out at an organising committee meeting, reserves 1,400 passes for state delegates, and 3,600 passes for DFF delegates. Pared down fringe activities has a pruned budget of Rs 2 crore, and will decentralise activities to interior towns and away from festival venues. Beach screenings are likely to continue. http://203.197.197.71/presentation/leftnavigation/news/news-makers/iffi-limits-delegate-entry-to-5,000.aspx Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Secularism v/s Communalism
The secular fundamentalism and bigotry is as much responsible for vitiating the communal atmosphere. It is redefining secularism in a manner that any view at variance is stigmatized as manifestation of majority communalism. Are we then witnessing the emergence of secular fascism ? There is no plausible answer as to how The BJP is communal and others secular. Is being with BJP is communal and being with Congress secular ? Take example of our Goan standard of secularism. In last elections Mathany Saldhana sided with BJP. Who does he become ? A secular or communal ? There are so many catholic personalities with BJP like Francisco D’souza, Aires Rodriguez, Dr. Wilfred Mesquita etc. Will you term them as communalists ? If Being with BJP is communal then Digambar Kamat who was with BJP as Power minister a communal ? and after he defected to Congress is he baptized now as secular ? Election results at a given time and place have no permanent immutable validity. Most of the times demagogues and despots successfully manage to manipulate the will of the people by using either muscle power or money earned by corruption and scandalous mode eg. Babush Monseratte, Mauvin Godhino, Micky Pacheco, Dayanand Narvekar etc. just to name a few. Overwhelming majority of Goan hindus are secular and have elected candidates either based on their merits or for own personal gains or in gratitude for favors obtained from such candidates irrespective of candidate’s party affiliation or religion. Hindu majority constituencies have often elected non Hindus like Francis D’souza from Mapusa or Isidore Fernandes from Poinginim where as there is no record of any Hindu candidate winning from predominantly catholic constituencies specially in Salcette on non Congress ticket. After liberation , elections were fought basically by two regional parties MGP and UGP. After losing opinion poll the MGP abandoned the pro merger agenda. Hindus sided with MGP which was headed by Bandodkar who was a Bahujan samaj Hindu leader since they had fresh memories of the Christian Portuguese tyrannical rule. Catholics and mostly bamon Hindus sided with Dr. Jack Sequeira’s UGP. Although there was always a religious divide between the MGP and UGP but it was limited to election days only. Goa being a Hindu majority state MGP won the elections by default starting from the first election in 1963 and ruled the state till 1979. During those days defection, government toppling, scandals, corruption were non existent. Both these parties had different agenda but neither of them fought election based on religious issues. It was only after death of Bandodkar and entry of Congress party in Goa that corruption, nepotism and policy of divide and rule by minority appeasement started to plague peaceful Goa. Some opportunist politicians from both parties migrated to Congress which had history of manipulating votes by instigating communal divide for political gains. After demise of Dr. Jack Sequeira there was no Christian leader to match his stature to lead the party resulting in disbanding of UGP following its transformation into the Congress the catholic community had no other option but to support Congress party. The corrupt Congress administration from 1980 to 2000 paved the way for the BJP to pose as a clean political party with espousing majority community. During the 1999 polls, in the wake of the anti-corruption backlash, many hristians too sided with the BJP. Since BJP did not get a majority on its own, it had to resort to mass-scale defections from the Congress to come to power in October 2000. But the Goan Congress party is still in disarray and not yet able to shed its past corrupt image had to resort to promote not true secularism but fake secularism to protect its political interest. VVinay __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] British sogle crackpot - to Bernado
Hi Bernado, Do you have an UK passport than you are one of them (a true one). For, Blair did not send English to Iraq - there is no compulsory service. Secondly Blair has done a great service to the immigrants eg Lawrence case and the exposition of the UK Police Institutional Racism, the enquiry the Conservative (financing BNP) had swept under the carpet during their power. Thirdly as Blair said, UK did not go to Iraq or Afghanistan -THEY CAME TO US (9/11). -- Blair could not handle the crackpots so he sent them to Iraq. Now Brown, what will he do send them to Iran? Meanwhile our Goan brother lost his life to british crackpots. There are lots of brits coming to Macau with the advent of the casino boom. But if they are involved with similar dadagiri they will be chopped to pieces by the chinese. BC - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month.
Re: [Goanet] Sexual abuse--------- the innocents children must they be punished too?
There you go, not reading the previous posts on this subject. Missing the link
as it were!
You dont have a clue what you are posting to us. Nobody is asking for or
spelling out any Sharia law to be imposed on criminals, whether associated with
sexual crimes or otherwise.
Please refer to my previous and original posts on this particular subject (as
well as starting from the begining, noting what posters have sent to this
forum, before you select one or two lines which have recently been added, in
response to other posters, and dont't get it wrong, again.
It would have been a kinder thing to do instead of jumping to unfounded
conclusions, as you have just now. I had specifically posted exactly the same
thing that you have (but hopefully without the holier than thou attitude you
attributed to me and others who have supported tried, in vain it seems to
give our opinions, as you have, but hopefully elucidated it a bit more, and in
detail, using various examples of what NOT to do, as in the case, below, NOT to
use any Arabic country's options on sentencing (Sharia Law or any other law,
not all Arab countries have Sharia Law opertating, some are dictatorships,
orthers are worse than dictatorships but that's for another discussion, for
another day), noteably as also said, including children which we have seen
pictures of, on this forum not more than 2 weeks or so ago.
Caste ye not the first stone (nor the second) unless you think you have
the right to do so, then you can explain WHY you did. Take the consequences
that befall you, or apologise to everyone you carelessly punched in the face,
for you have made a dreadful error my friend.
And by the way the poster I responded to was also giving her opinion, to
which she is entitled, whether or not we all or individually agree with her, or
not, she was eplying to several posts regarding the parent of one child
molesting another parent's little girl, by saying (quote) We seem more
concerned with the innocent man, than the innocent girl!... ) can you
fathom which is the innocent in this sentence or make any sense of it? We
tried and you pilloried us! I said we had no feelings for a child
molester but this was in ADDITION to what was posted previously, not an
outright statement as we see on this forum by the mightier and prouder than us
brigade, who put half a dozen words or a couple of sentences which provoke
others into rage.
Fortunately, although long-winded at times, I prefer to explain in detail,
which just shows if I ever diviate from this, I will receive posts like yours,
by people who have not bothered to follow the story or the link or thread on
the subject before accusing us of ignorance, or worse.
I could send in lots of pick mix paste post it on this forum from all
subjects including as you did, on any subject, by just going on internet
websites and quoting ad nausium, but I prefer DISCUSSION (not chime) on
issues raised by others, on Goanet. I find the responses by the majority to be
constructive, and sometimes woeful, or even sad, some posters are totally off
their heads (in MY opinion), and others so high brow in their replies (as I
have received by a couple in private emails from this forum) that I still find
them fascinating to read, and respond accordingly.
I just dont get along with twisters, those who say one thing then mean
another, or cut and paste your words to make others look stupid or opposite to
what they really are, or really said. That's just cheap.. and nasty.
John Monteiro
Berkshire, England.
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Dear John and others who have chimed in on this topic,
Let us not assume that we know all the answers to deviant behaviours
in humans and not cast stones until we do..Let us hope that the
perpertrators of this and other crimes may get the help they need rather than
the wrath of the holier among us.
Kevin Saldanha
From: JOHN MONTEIRO
We do not have any feelings for any child molester, if you have been
following the thread of this discussion you will have noted many posts
regarding this.
John Monteiro
Berkshire, England
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We seem more concerned for the innocent man than the innocent girl!
It appears that he will reap better than what he sought to sow for the girl!
Louise
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{Heaven forbid if the girl had mistakenly identified an innocent man.
Heaven forbid if such an innocent man were to be beaten to death.
Heaven forbid if such an innocent man were my father, brother or
husband. We reap what we sow in a society.}
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[Goanet] Bye-poll an opportunity to oppose SEZ: Parrikar
Bye-poll an opportunity to oppose SEZ: Parrikar BY HERALD REPORTER VASCO, OCT 27 Leader of the Opposition Manohar Parrikar at a public meeting on Saturday said that the South Goa Parliamentary bye-election is an opportunity for Goans to warn the Digambar Kamat-led government that they cannot sell land in the name of SEZ. The political uncertainty at the Centre could bring down the UPA government at any movement. But the victory of Dr Wilfred Mesquita will not change the government at the Centre nor in the State, but it would certainly send a clear cut signal to the Kamat-led government that they cannot sell Goa and its identity in the name of SEZ, said Parrikar. Referring to Chief Minister Digambar Kamats statement made after his recent Delhi visit that seven SEZs is a must for Goa, Parrikar allegedly said the Congress candidate Francisco Sardinha and former MLA Karl Vaz were for two SEZs in Goa. Addressing the gathering in his home town, BJP candidate Dr Wilfred Mesquita answering to allegations made by the Congress that BJP has smuggled him said, Am I smuggled from Italy or America? I am a proud Goan and the one who lived for the welfare of State and will die for it. He alleged that the Finance Minister and Digambar Kamat are fooling the unemployed youth of Goa that SEZ would give them job opportunities. He urged the people of Port town that this bye-election is an opportunity for the people of Goa to show the Kamat-led government that they cannot take the people for granted. Siroda MLA Dayanand Mandrekar, Mormugao MLA Milind Naik, Mormugao Municipal Council chairman Manesh Arolkar, former State BPJ president Rajendra Arlekar, former MLA Mathani Saldanha, Adv Aires Rodrigues, BJP secretary Jayant Jadav, BJP youth wing president Ashish Shirodkar and other also spoke. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=3474cid=26 Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] SEZs will be scrapped if found detrimenta l to Goa’s welfare: CM
SEZs will be scrapped if found detrimental to Goas welfare: CM NT News Service Quepem, Oct 27 The Chief Minister, Mr Digambar Kamat today said that he would not hesitate to scrap all the SEZs proposed to be set up in Goa if they were found to be against the interest and welfare of Goa. He, however, hastened to add that any decision in this regard would be taken only after thoroughly reviewing the SEZs after the Lok Sabha by-polls. Speaking at a public meeting held at Quepem as part of the Congress partys campaign for the Lok Sabha by-polls, Mr Kamat said, The interest and welfare of the common man lies at the core of my heart. So far, all the decisions taken by this government are aimed at the uplift of the aam aadmi. Therefore, if the SEZs are at all found to be detrimental to the welfare of Goans, I wont hesitate to cancel the SEZs. He assured that he was willing to rectify any genuine mistakes that could have inadvertently occurred if brought to his notice. Referring to the demand made by the BJP vice-president, Mr Prakash Velip for the resignation of the Quepem MLA, Mr Chandrakant Kavlekar following the alleged land scam, the Chief Minister defended Mr Kavlekar terming him as a man who cares for the welfare of the poor and the downtrodden. Those who have been rejected by the people at the hustings should refrain from mouthing baseless accusations at those who are really working for the development of the constituency, Mr Kamat said in a veiled reference to Mr Velip who lost the last assembly elections to Mr Kavlekar. He further urged the people to work for the success of the Congress by electing Mr Sardinha with an overwhelming lead. The Quepem MLA reiterated his stand that the proposed food park at Betul would be set up at any cost as it was necessary for the development of Quepem, which had hitherto remained neglected for the past many years. Once the food park is set up, it would ensure a good market for the farmers in the rural places of Quepem, thus helping in raising their standard of living. Secondly, the unemployment problem that has been grappling the constituency for long will be taken care of as a number of employment opportunities would be generated, Mr Kavlekar said. Referring to the land scam issue, the IDC Chairman said the opposition BJP was left with no genuine issues to go to the people and hence it was harping on non-issues. Reminding the audience that it was he who hiked the land rate from Rs 375 to Rs 600 once he took over the reins of the GDIC, Mr Kavlekar said that he would not have taken this decision had he been harbouring any selfish interests. I take pride in the fact that I was responsible for increasing the revenue of the GIDC after raising the price of the land as my intentions were clean and clear, he said and further urged the party workers to work with dedication for the success of the party. The party candidate for the Lok Sabha by-polls, Mr Fransisco Sardinha, the Rajya Sabha MP, Mr Shantaram Naik, the Goa pradesh Mahila Congress president, Ms Monica Dias, vice-president of the party, Mr M K Shaikh, former MP, Mr Ramakant Angle and others also spoke. Our Ponda Correspondent adds: Addressing an election rally today at Old Bus Stand, Ponda, the Chief Minister said that he would study the SEZs from the other countries and if they are found not benefiting Goa and Goans then he would scrap them. Without studying the issue of SEZs, my comments on the issue would be improper, he said. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=10287 Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Bishop/Diocese.
Hi Bosco We could go on in circles and waste everybody's time. But just one small point--- I have never claimed to be a fine man myself. I can definitely be waspish when appropriate as in the case when I asked if the two padres were fit for purpose over the issue of Is Consensual Sex OK? Regards Cornel
[Goanet] Sau Gunah Maaf for Fomento Group as long as Digamber is CM
Sau Gunaah Maaf for Fomento Goup as long as Digamber is CM We read a lot of illegalities comitted by the Fomento group these days...be it pollution at their mines, or the high handedness of the Cidade de Goa hotel authorities and tempering with the coast alongside. The issues of tresspass along the Vaigunim beach have been legendry. Thanks toSomnath Zuwarkar...he made his buck by sucking up to the Fomento group. But the Fomento group is well connected in the political equation of Goa today...just take a look at the foll: (1) One of the wives of the Dempo sons who has much clout in the Goa government and was a well wisher of the BJP is a Timblo daughter. (2) Viswajeet Rane, is married to a Timblo daughter. (3) Our margao constituency returns Digamber Kamat at every elections...thanks to his turning a blind eye to the evils of mining pollution...every child in margao knows who contributes to Digamber kamat's election campaigns. So dont expect the dev or devnchar to go against the Fomentos...if at all anybody dared to it is Babush and his wife Jennifer who dared to raise the voice on behalf of the people of Taleigao. Regards Cedric da Costa Dubai __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Macacas!
Hi Francis and Mervyn I often said that Goanet was a learning instrument. Our exchange demonstrates this rather well! Regards Cornel Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn, Be not afraid, O wise one, of being contrary! I have personally, during my regrettable youth, called many unfortunates macacas - as in many latin cultures all the way from Spain to Mexico! This reprehensible slur or 'monkey epithet' may be cross-referenced here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaca_(slur)
[Goanet] Support Romi Konkani
Hi Goaneters, After reading so many articles about the Romi Konkani on this net and newspapers the voice is lowered by our leaders. There is no favours to our Romi. By having our own elected/selected CM, MLAs and MPs, whom we will believe or think who will be the care taker of our Romi Konkani? Instead of keeping on top position/place to our Romi Konkani there is no luck now, I feel very sad. Nobody support till today to keep it on stable. As I heard from the song of Alfred Rose . Konkanik salan addun mann diunk zai. No Father/Mother/Godfather/Godmother only few caretakers I assume. It is very pity to note that our leaders are trying to put our Romi to the Old Age Home. In the dark place where the brightness will never seen or shine. That will be the end of our Romi Konkani. All Goans come out hand in hand and please, please . support Romi Konkani. Viva Romi Viva Konkani. All the best regards, Mario Vicente Santos Pereira, * -- Confidentiality Notice : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential to the addressee and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail, you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it in any way whatsoever. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message, and delete the original and any print out thereof.
[Goanet] GOAN SOCCER IN DUBAI - AGASSAIM CUP 2007
AGASSAIM CUP 2007 ( GOAN INTER-VILLAGE FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT ) VANXIM DIVAR DUBAI CHAMPS In the Agassaim Cup championship 20 Goan Teams took part in the one day football tournament, Played at Dubai Rugby Exiles club Dubai which was organized by FESTA Entertainments. and the tournament was sponsored by S I F Profile Factory. The chief guest for the finals was Rev. Fr. Britto Furtado all the way from Goa, from St. Anthony's church Siolim Bardez Goa India. POOL 'A' NUVEM AL SEER ALDONA UNITED 'RED' F.C. SIOLIM NAVELIM ST. ANTHONY'S PERNEM POOL 'B' ST. ANN'S MORJIM SIRLIM SPORTS CLUB AT. ANTHONY'S SIOLIM B VANXIM DIVAR SFX OLD GOA POOL 'C' YOUTH OF SERAULIM SIOLIM UNITED ST. ANTHONY'S SIOLIM A ORIENT TRAVEL CARANZALIM SALIGAO VILLAGE FOXES POOL 'D' ALDONA UNITED WHITE MARRIOTT BOYS CARMONA CANSAULIM CALVIM ISLANDERS FR. AGNEL PILAR EKFC Teams were divided into four pools and the games were played league cum knockout basis. After the league matches two teams Qualified from each pool. From Pool 'A' FC Siolim Navelim and from Pool 'B' Vanxim Divar SFX Old Goa and from Pool 'C' Siolim United St. Anthony's Siolim while from Pool ' D' Cansaulim and Fr. Agnel Pilar EKFC qualified for the knockout round into the quterfinals. In the first quterfinals FC Siolim lost to Siolim United while Navelim lost to St. Anthony's and the third quters Vanxim Divar beat Fr. Agnel Pilar EKFC And in the fourth quters SFX Old Goa went down to Cansaulim. In the semi-finals Cansaulim beat Siolim United while Vanxim Divar beat fighting St. Anthony's Siolim to go into the finals. The exiting finals played between North and South Goa. South Goa crowed pullers Cansaulim and North Goa Giants was a fantastic display of football which drew for the full time and had to go into tie breaker, Cansaulim shooters were on target but in the sudden death Cansaulim Linton shot on the horizontal bar while the Bardez Giants did not miss a single goal to be the Champions of Agassaim Cup 2007 which was sponsored by SIF Profile factory. The best player of the tournament was awarded to peter of St. Anthony's Siolim and best goalkeeper of the tournament was given away to Sathis of Siolim United and the highest scorer was awarded to Dino Dias of Vanxim Divar while the player of the final was bagged by Linton of Cansaulim. The chief guest Rev. Fr. Britto from Goa thanked the 20 teams for performing well and keeping the football sprit burning in Dubai and highlighted the sport football is to be friends and to have dieseline in life. Bonny Fernandes of Festa Entertainments gave a vote of thanks and thanked the chief guest Rev. Fr. Britto for giving his precious time for being with the Goans in Dubai for the event. He also thanked all the teams and special thanks to Mr. Ruie and SIF Profile Factory for their entire support for the football tournament. And also announced for the big event to be held on 31st December 2007 a Dinner Dance at Al Nasr Leisure Land Dubai to bring inn the NEW YEAR 2008...
[Goanet] Death Announcement
Dear Members and Friends We regret to announce the death of: JOSEPH D'SOUZA( formerly of Kenya Post office, Nairobi and ex Aldona ,Goa) Which occured in Sutton, Surrey, UK on 22nd October 2007. Husband of Doreen Father to Michele/Luis Remedios, Claire and Elaine/Neale Saldanha, Grandfather to Trevor, Jason, Francesca Daniel Brother in law to Tony D'Costa Condolence messages can be sent to email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Funeral arrangements: to be announced later For and on behalf of the family Goan Welfare Society
[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: Fires in Southern California - V
Dear all, Update as of today, Sunday, Oct 28, regarding the Southern California fires: 1. No reports of Goan deaths, major injuries. 2. No reports of any major damage or loss of Goans homes. 3. Many reports of Goans evacuees. 4. Some reports of Goan respiratory/breathing issues related to ash in the air, including adverse impact on elderly Goans. However, no current major illness reported. 5. Many reports of ash on homes, businesses, cars. If you are aware of Goan families in need of assistance, please contact Acaria Almeida at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for your support. Goa Sudharop www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Goa news for October 29, 2007
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** SEZs will be scrapped if found detrimental to Goas welfare: CM - Navhind Times [18 hours ago] Quepem, Oct 27 The Chief Minister, Mr Digambar Kamat today said that he would not hesitate to scrap all the SEZs proposed to be set up in Goa if they were ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=10287cid=1122548768ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw *** Rain forces tie shift to Goa - Indiatimes [2 hours ago] Earlier, a 10 am assessment on Monday was planned upon, but AIFF announced the Goa decision lateon Sunday. New Delhi and Kochi too were in the running to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://sports.indiatimes.com/Rain_forces_tie_shift_to_Goa/articleshow/2497862.cmscid=1122531004ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw *** Goa govt signs MoU with DFF for IFFI-07 - Hindu [Oct 26, 2007] New Delhi (PTI): The Goa government has signed an MoU with the Directorate of Film Festival (DFF), authorising it to decide on all matters related to the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200710262066.htmcid=1122658708ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw *** Goa achieved all-round progress during Congress regime: Faleiro - Navhind Times [Oct 26, 2007] Margao, Oct 26 The former industries minister, Mr Luzinho Faleiro said Goa achieved development in all respects during the regime of Congress government. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=10278cid=1122749001ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw *** Who will inaugurate the IFFI at Goa? - IndiaGlitz [Oct 27, 2007] With just a few weeks left for the International Film Festival to kick off in Goa, it still remains a mystery as to who would inaugurate this year's edition ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/34340.htmlcid=0ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw *** Match abandoned due to rain - Hindu [2 hours ago] As things stand with rains continuing to pelt the city,the match is being shifted to Goa. FIFA rules stipulate that the Referee inspect the turf an hour ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2007/10/29/stories/2007102956481700.htmcid=1122793058ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw *** Premium calls - Business Standard [4 hours ago] Tata Teleservices Maharashtra (TTML), the CDMA-based telecom services provider of the Tata group in Maharashtra, Goa and Mumbai, has seen its subscriber ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=302505leftnm=0subLeft=0chkFlg=cid=0ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw *** Risking his life to save others - Mangalorean.com [1 hour ago] Meet thirty-three old Rodney Rebello from Palolem Canacona a real life hero and an unsung hero of Goa, who has shun all publicity and glare. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://mangalorean.com/browsearticles.php?arttype=Featurearticleid=1143cid=0ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw *** Tej Naik wins title - Hindu [2 hours ago] Nuvem (Goa): Local boy Tej Naik, a 17-year-old first year BBM student of MES College, pulled off a stunning victory in the final of the first Amaron Karting ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2007/10/29/stories/2007102956711800.htmcid=0ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw *** Goa goes broadband in hi-tech drive for foreign investment - Times Online [1 hour ago] In Goas capital city of Panjim, Deepak Surlakar has just spent a minute completing a task that used to take him more than a week. Emerging from the Mahiti ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article2759447.ececid=0ei=fRslR8WZJozQqgPY4KWQAw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Medical report confirms sexual assault on boy
Well said, and well done. I totally agree with this sentiment, as I did with Selmas which arrived one after the other just now. Let us see now how many will disagree with one or both of you, after all you have both expressed exasperation with the way this so-called investigation is going with regard to searching this woman's body for evidence. Surely if there was to be any evidence, it would be some type of stain on her dress / sari / underclothes etc, not on or in her body. Assuming the child has not reached puberty, I doubt if they can chase after semen, but they appear to be ready with rubber suits, rubber gloves and goggles anyway! Idiotic to the extreme. Yes, I agree if there is case to be answered, or even if not then by all means go the DNA-way, do ALL tests and take up the case to its final conclusion, its after all a child involved here who has accused a teacher, albeit via the parent. The police think they have a case, so lets go, dont waste time. But please do it so that justice is SEEN to be done. Absolutely no point in naming attempting to shame someone who is REALLY innocent. But if they ARE guilty, then its in the hands of the judiciary, not a howling mob that nearly killed that man last week who was accused of fondling a little girl (about the same age as his own daughter he was bringing to the same school), when found out he had to run to the police station for protection. Guilty, fine! Then do let the law do its job (you have my opinion on this previously, too long-winded to repeat it here), if innocent then what? Does he get compensated or does mud stick forever, maybe leave town for his own good? He is a married man with children of his own, be he the family must relocate anyway, or he will find a horse's head on his pillow in the morning. But it was suggested by another poster, last week that as the sole bread winner in the family, it is customary in Goa to let off with a smack on the wrist. Is this true? It was posted on this forum that many of the guilty are not sentenced or given any help etc with this dis-ease because they know someone or there is usually money under the table ?? Several views, and threads here which can be followed, but who will know the truth? When will the case(s) be brought up before a judge? Can someone keep a track on these two cases and report back on this forum? John Monteiro Berkshire, England . Asked whether it can be established that the victim boy was assaulted by the lady tuition teacher, the Colva police inspector said that only when the teacher is arrested and subjected for medical examination the police be able to establish the truth. Sanny de Quepem -- QUESTION: What are they going to check the lady teacher for ? Skin under her finger nails, fluids that she might give ? If so this DNA testing thing, is far more advanced in India than in England where DNA was first discovered... Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Medical report confirms sexual assault. Really?
1: re: the Colva police inspector said that only when the teacher is arrested and subjected for medical examination the police be able to establish the truth. 2: Selma: How will an examination of her body prove assault on the child? 3: Miguel: Obviously, the type of evidence that a molested boy child will leave behind will be different from the type of evidence one would expect from a healthy sexual relationahip with an adult male . for love or money == jc: I wonder if Miguel would please expand on his statement above. I ask too IF it is mandatory that a woman have a healthy sexual relationahip with an adult male before any hymenal changes occur. I also ask IF a woman can be subjected to a vaginal examination without her consent? In Goa, is a man also subjected to a genital 'examination' if accused? This reminds me of the Vaginal Examinations women from the subcontinent were subjected to - circa 1974 - at UK Immigration, Heathrow Airport, before being allowed into the UK as a spouse. jc without prejudice to the facts of the case or any DNA proof of sexual contact.
[Goanet] No-trust motions in VPs hindering development
No-trust motions in VPs hindering development NT Staff Reporter Panaji, Oct 27 Increasing numbers of no-confidence motions in the village panchayats of Goa are proving to be a hindrance to development in these villages, panchayat authorities feel. Happening that is too within just five months of the panchayat elections, this instability will have an adverse impact on the development of villages, authorities say. The director of panchayats, Mr Menino DSouza agrees that the increasing number of no-confidence motions are not a healthy trend. But he said that in a democracy, the majority has to rule. He feels that sometimes there are agreements between panchayat members to rotate the chair of sarpanch between them after fixed intervals. But when the sarpanch refuses to hand over power, the others move a motion of no confidence against him. If that motion is somehow defeated, then by law, no other motion of no confidence can be brought against the sarpanch for the next six months. This is done to bring about some stability for at least for six months. But the downside of this is that if that sarpanch loses the confidence of the majority again after a few days, he cannot be removed for the next six months. Since he does not have the majority, no resolution will be passed for six months and no development will be done, said Mr DSouza. He agrees there are too many no-confidence motions and most of the BDOs time is eaten up in these. He also agrees that these motions block development work. But he said it is good the gram sabhas have been revived where people ask questions and the sarpanchs chair has become a hot seat. The Tiswaddi block development officer, Mr Vishant Gaunekar feels that members bring about no-confidence motions mostly due to personal interest or due to political affiliations. It is not because of major policy decision failures. Anyway, it is to the detriment of the all. He explains. Whenever a resolution for a development work is passed in the panchayat and forwarded to the BDO, he deputes his engineer to inspect the site. The engineer also discusses the matter with the panch members, takes the measurements, prepares estimate and sends the file to the PWD. By the time it comes back with approval, invariably two months have passed. The approved file is then sent back to the panchayat. The panchayat has to now advertise in newspapers inviting tenders. If the sarpanch changes by then, the new sarpanch may not go ahead with the file. He sends some new resolutions pertaining to some different development wards which he is interested in. And the whole process starts all over again. All the groundwork done on the earlier file goes in vain, said Mr Gaunekar. That personal interest is the prime reason for no-confidence motions seems to get credence from the speech of Ms Helena Lourenco, former sarpanch of St Cruz village panchayat who was voted out of office on October 1, 2007. According to the minutes of the special meeting held on the October 1, 2007, she stated that one of the reasons for this no-confidence motion is her refusal to issue occupancy certificate in the above matters. She further stated that village panchayat members had requested her to go on leave which proposal was rejected by her. She also complained that norms, rules and regulations for construction projects are violated, open spaces, setbacks are not considered, flats and shops are occupied by people before revised plans are issued by the concerned departments. The occupancy certificate has been issued without completing the structure and in cases where CRZ is concerned the members were insisting me to issue house numbers to the huts . How ugly no-confidence motions can now get, is amply demonstrated in the October 1 incident at Calangute village panchayat where unidentified goons attacked a panch member with knives just before the special meeting to hear the motion of no confidence against the sarpanch. Charges and counter-charges have flown from both factions since then and the battle has now shifted to the High Court. Till then, development in Calangute takes a backseat. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=10288 Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Matanhy Saldhanha's brilliant article in today's NT (Frame it!)
To Goanet - Today's Panorama section of the Navhind Times carries a brilliant article A Regional Plan for Future Generations by Matanhy Saldanha. This is such a sublime piece of work that I couldn't believe it got printed in that *** of a newspaper, The Navhind Times. Every single Goan ought to read this magnificent document by Matanhy-bab. Dr. Oscar Rebello and his GBA troops will do well to commit every word in it to memory as they go about crafting the new Regional Plan. The NT website hasn't been updated yet so no links are available. Matanhy-bab has detailed clauses and guidelines for approaching the new Regional Plan. He has questioned the indiscriminate increase in settlement area in the last Plan - reading between the lines, it simply means that our planners have been planning not for Goans but for bhailes (outsiders). Too bad the supplement is soiled by an *** from that useless Mario Cabral e Sa. Matanhy-bab, my dear old teacher at Don Bosco, hats off to you man. We knew even then, 30 years ago, the stuff you are made of. Warm regards, r
[Goanet] response for pravin
Pravin: lets us agree to disagree ..frankly i have realized that I can do much more productive things by working with people whose views agree with mine rather than get into these useless debates with people like you. i am tired of telling you that defending ones right to say something is different from defending what they are saying. by now all our exchanges must have been archived on Goanet and discerning readers can decide for themselves how truthful and honest each one of us have been . As regards private apologies, i am never ashamed to apologise in public or private ...if you are interested in a public apology then i am sorry i wasted your time and labeled you as a marxist regards B __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Why is Datta Naik on the Regional Plan 2021 Task Force?
To Goanet - Datta Damodar Naik - he calls himself a thinker, I call him a stinker - has been made a member of the Task Force for the Regional Plan 2021 by his buddy Digu. Prima facie this does not pass the smell test (the stinker's stink notwithstanding). Datta Naik is a builder himself and in common parlance he has, what is known as, a conflict of interest. Why is the stinker Datta Damodar Naik part of the Task Force but not an honest, intelligent man like Matanhy Saldanha? Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Medical report confirms sexual assault. Really?/to Miguel
--- Frederick [FN] Noron ha * फà¥à¤°à¥à¤¡ रिठन à¥à¤°à¥à¤à¤¯à¤¾ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let us not play the role of self-appointed investigator or judge in cyberspace. -- FN, You're missing the point altogether. Why shouldn't I have an opinion on the matter of civil rights whether I'm in cyberspace or not. If some evidence is unearthed through an examination of this woman's body, let's hear about it. Let's have total transparency in these matters. On the one hand you are advocating that we treat such matters with understanding on the other hand you don't want any opinions voiced about the type of investigation carried out. And what's all this bull about a time of transition. Sexual crimes specially against children have existed since time immemorial. It's just that in the past we were used to them being brushed under the carpet. selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Six Lanes to Hell
Dear Rajan, 'CORRUPTICIAN' indeed it is. SEZs [ Our corrupticians want to leak the floating cream and leave the subsiding mess for us Goans to have] 6 Lane Expressway. [Our corrupticians are not expected to use their brains i.e. if they have them at all.] The general trend of futuristic thinking is to reduce the road [wheeler] traffic when one has no capacity to plan for parking areas. Besides our God given rivers are lying idle when we could reduce road traffic by half any day. And in Goa we don't even know that the RHS is for overtaking and once overtaken, one has to faithfully come back to the LHS, keeping the RHS free all the time. This ignorance of enforcement will kill more people on the 6 lane Expressway than a visiting Tsunami. If I was allowed to say my bit to the planner of Goa, if indeed they exist, I wud suggest two suspension bridges. One from Dona Paula hill to Nerul/Candolim and the other from Dona Paula hill to Vasco/Dabolim. At the same time, I wud suggest 'eligibility letter' to procure 4 wheelers. [ 1st 4-wheeler in a family will not require the 'EL'.. The 2nd does, which costs 1/4 the the price of the car. The 3rd. 1/2 the price of the car. The 4th full price of the car... etc. But to have this system the State must have impeccable 20 hour public transport system (0600 to 0200 hours). Also for entering and exiting main cities the 'odd' and 'even' number plate system for alternate days will be a must to reduce inner city traffic. Goa is heading for the traffic crunch that was seen by 'Lagos' in Nigeria in the 70's and Bangkok , Los Angeles (USA) in the 80's to name a few cities where people prefered to walk rather than get into a 4 wheeler and be dead by inhaling the CO [Go Slow it was known as] What I am talking about is 'Do our planners who are mostly our CORRUPTICIANS possess the thinking hat??? And do we require donning this thinking hat to plan Goa of the future??? TATA's one-lac car ZINDABAD !!! floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:17 PM Subject: [Goanet] Six Lanes to Hell To Goanet - The usual political suspects in Goa have thrown their weight behind the creation of a new 6-lane highway. Like the proposed Special Ghati Zones this, too, is a terrible mistake. You ought to ask yourself who exactly is supporting these projects. At the head of the list is the leading corruptician (my portmanteau word for the corrupt politician) of our times, Dayanand Narvekar. We should be thinking of ways to reduce motorized traffic and curtail our carbon emissions, not increase them. Everyone talks about the need for spanking new roads. Nobody talks about cultivating road manners and road culture, something that would enhance the quality of life much more than the pouring of fresh asphalt. The 6-lane highway will transform Goa - coastal Goa, at any rate - into one indistinguishable contiguous urban mass. The damage would be incalculable and irreversible. Among the several factors that has placed Goa on the fast track to doom is its easy accessibility, particularly in the past 5 years. The Dilli savage now has a choice of flights from sunrise until sunset. A slew of trains is now on offer for the ghati from Bihar or AP. Getting into Goa has never been easier. It is akin to having the doors of your house open and unguarded at all times. With the 6-lane highway we will have knocked down the walls, too. Warm regards, r
[Goanet] MARIANHO MURDER UPDATE -- SELECTIVE CENSORSHIP BY THE NAVHIND TIMES
Dear pen pricks: minor correction: mariano is still hale and hearty ,it was attempted murder... yo have indeed hit the nail on the head...every newspaper has its patrons mostly connected with the mining industry and one can never really bite the hand that feeds after all... reminds me of the gala held to felicitate a newspaper editor by the current ruling dispensation... it oes on and on.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Manohar Parrikar and the BJP -- A Good expose
Dears,
After Floraino Lobo's detailed rebuttal of Anamika's {?} postulations,
we have madgaokar Cedric da Costa and New York based NRI Painter,
Venantius Pinto, giving their opinions about how saffron is Parrikar's
colour and what they think of Dr.Wilfred Misquita's stock in the BJP
as well as the role of Rane in the creation of the BJP Frankenstein in
Goa.
There are no permanant enemies in politics ... only permanant
interests. Only a good capital investment generates interest. It is
all about money, honey. Who SEZ what and when is hardly an issue.
During the Parrikar-led BJP dispensation the Meditabs SEZ was cleared
on the same site that has the blood of an innocent Nilesh Naik .
killed in the anti-Nylon 6,6 agitation led by the same BJP wallas who
got a GramSabha resolution in favour of Meditabs then ...and are
opposing it now. The Dhavlikars brothers support it now as they did
then.
After all is said and done, Meditabs is promoted by Cipla, the makers
of i-Pill. There is a cure for the morning after a raunchy night
before!! The politicians just do it.
Mog asundi.
Miguel
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:25:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: cedrico dacosta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar and the BJP -- A Good expose
Floriano
Manohar Parrikar and the BJP -- A Good expose Floriano
I fully agree to Anamika's post (if a lady by that name actually
exists or is not another spin doctor of Porrikar). Porikar is a good
administrator and if he personally came around at 2 am to supervise
the works at IFFI...i would say that speaks volumes of his
commitments, but on the other hand i wonder if he was interested in
the project or the bounty he is alleged to have made post it.
Parrikar, came as a whiff of fresh air...but as the years rolled by we
realised and saw the true colours of a desperate RSS chaddiwallah,
The true colours of the Parrikar were observed when he stumped the MGP
and almost destroyed the regional outfit, next he took Dotor Willy --
the ever so desperate kodel seeker for a huge ride, then Sardinha,
then the Mandarin hotel case, the Governor's arcade destruction, the
Bishop's palace, the harrasment of the minorities using the police
force, etc etc etcthe list is endless and did not stop at forging
the signature of the Neri.
But it was not the BJP that made the frankestein called Parriker...it
was the Congress and in particular the former chief minister
Pratapsingh Rane.
The latest preys of Parrikar is none other than the south Goa BJP
candidate for the parlimentary election -- Dr Wilfred Meaquita!
Yesterday, the BJP has publicly announced at Margao's Lohia Maidan
that if the Congress withdraws the SEZs, they will withdraw Dr Wilfred
Mesquita as its candidate? This shows how serious the BJP is about the
forthcoming elections and also how much of a puppet has Dr Wilfred
Mesquita been already reduced even before the battle has begun, what
he will be later on is anybody's guess.
Parrikar and the BJP has taken Goan politics to the dogs. Parrikar at
one time denounced the likes of Churchill and Babush .. only to
get into an alliance with them post elections.
So in the present scnario when the Goan masses have woken up to the
fact that the Congress is evil, the bigger evil lurking around is
people like Porrikar...and trust me -- corruption at a level is
tolerable but not the menace of communial politics.
I feel Porrikar was responsible for the Curchorem riots and the
congress under Rane let him off the hook easily.
And this is the Porrikar and BJP we are trying to give a second chance?
Regards
Cedric da Costa Dubai
Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 976_Manohar_Parrikar
Sadar pranam Anamika,
These discussions are hardly intellectual. Floriano takes care of all your
concerns in the most brilliant response I have read on a Goan
political mind and procedural technique.
But Manohar (Man_o_har), who fascinates all still
has the ability to steal the heart, and expects mot (votes) without
giving back. Goa needs the equivalent of a
Political or Good governance forum, once or twice a month, where
politicians are held accountable. Its not such a radical concept.
I hope that people after seeing setbacks to their lives begin to think
differently. I also hope Manohar will grow in wisdom. And bid his
time.
Modernity does not haveto mean selling everything including the sons
and daughters of the soil. This is not difficult. Pun Konknni
somestank ani stithek -- apulki nam zalear ami jhem mhunta tem sogglem
umtea kouxear udik. Khori apulki and fontojicar apuki (adhbut o
Kolponneachi apulki) don vegle gunn. Punn ami Goeankarani (soglea num)
Mandovintlem uddok henchear mattear makoilam (tannlam). Je christao
assa tenchea ucchar Christache nhuim: te soggleam un Bhakkasurantlea
Bhakkasur; kiteak teni lokank fottoupachi vait buzzvont monant ghott
riggolea.
Venantius
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Re: [Goanet] Bishop/Diocese.
On 28/10/2007, CORNEL DACOSTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bosco We could go on in circles and waste everybody's time. But just one small point--- I have never claimed to be a fine man myself. I can definitely be waspish when appropriate as in the case when I asked if the two padres were fit for purpose over the issue of Is Consensual Sex OK? Regards Cornel COMMENT: Who is fit to pronounce on consensual sex ? In arranged marriages, do you honestly believe that it is consensual sex as per the letter? In marriages where couples court, consummating on the wedding bed, the woman might have reservations, or indeed the man might have reservations.boom the show goes on ! Strictly following the 'western mode' of consensual sex is asking for trouble ? She winked yes, but meant no ? He gave a come hither glance and then she went berserk? The 'bottom line' as far as Indians are concerned, is that marriage has to take place. It is only when this does not happen that all hell and fury breaks ! Am I right ? Or is there a crack in my assumptions? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Gadgils reply to rajan parrikar
Nelson, I suggest you treat this forum and it's readers with a little more respect. The majority of those who visit Goanet are intelligent, educated thinking people, therefore you would do well to mould your writing accordingly. Please answer the following questions related to your post: 1. Do only Goans really hate shitting and urinating in public? 2. Have only non-Goans and Indian tourists taken this for granted? If Goans have not taken it for granted how come they are letting this happen? 3. Are you attributing tolerating this filthy behavior to the kindheartedness and hospitality of Goans? Does hospitality mean allowing people to defecate on your roads? 4. If they come in busloads, bathe, urinate and defecate in public. Why are Goans not getting their duly constituted authorities to legally stop this? 5. Gadgil is used to them and still tolerating such behavior, but he should not expect us to do so. Forget about Gadgil tolerating such behavior and expecting you to do so. He is not expecting you to do so and yet you are doing so. Getting used to such behavior I mean. Writing on Goanet is not going to stop it. What more are you doing? 6. These tourists are better off staying where they are. I totally agree with you. Now who is going to give them that message and how? 7. Goa should put up posters all over telling tourists that they are not allowed to perform biological functions in public. Is that your way of giving them that message? Then you might as well put up the following posters too. Do not vote for corrupt politicians. Do not bribe public officials. Do not sell your land or there will be nothing left for your children. I am sure you can think of many other posters to add to those. From a Goan whose shit smells so good that the pigs want to eat it. Also Cheers, Roland. 416-453-3371 On 10/27/07, nelson ferrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dear gadgil i thoght that after staying in goa you must have learnt by now their dislikes and likes.One thing they really hate is- shitting and urinating in public. Non- goans and specially the indian tourists seem to have taken this for granted.And as i wrote in my earlier post, it is due to the goodheartedness and hospitality of goans that they tolerated this filthy behaviour from our guests who we did not invite but they came to see the civilised part of India.They often come in busloads, bathe,urinate and defecate in public places and hang their cloths for drying in muncipal gardens.Goans when go touring in other parts of country dont do such things.All these people are used to do these things in their own states and maybe gadgil is used to them and still tolerating such behaviour , but he should not expect us to do so and call names to those who point out such issues.These tourists are better off staying where they are or visit other part of country where such behaviour is accepted. Goa should put up posters all over telling tourists that they are not allowed to shit and urinate in public Cheers Nelson
Re: [Goanet] NYTimes.com: A Tale of Tragic Love Cracks Calcutta's Mirror
Hi Ruby Goes, The word intermarry has the following meanings in dictionary.com 1. to become connected by marriage, as two families, tribes, castes, or religions. 2. to marry within one's family. 3. to marry outside one's religion, ethnic group, etc. 4. to marry So what is your question again? With questions like these, please tell me how to have a nice day! Roland. 416-453-3371 On 10/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi FN Goanet, Do Goans inter-marry? Thanks. Have a nice day. Ruby Goes
Re: [Goanet] Tuition teacher, or not tuition teacher, arrested for sexual assault on 9-year-old or 10yr old
I have just responded to a poster who jumped the bandwagon a little, we were informed this lady was not a teacher at all, so what is going on? There appears to be lots of misinformation for which we take time to comment upon, only to find we are wrong, because the story is not correct. The boy in question has also grown younger, he is now 9 years old... Bah humbug? John Monteiro 28.10.07..08.10hrs -- Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuition teacher arrested for sexual assault on 9-year-old boy The Colva police on Friday evening arrested the 40-year-old female tuition teacher in connection with the sexual assault on a 9-year-old boy -
Re: [Goanet] Macacas!
FR wrote: An extensive net-search of your version has been unsuccessful. I'm not too sure about 'Kaka' being of E. African origin either - shouldn't that be Indian? Anyway, what the heck, let's take up your suggestion - anyone hence, calling another a macaca should be summarily chucked into a US jail, without being charged! FR, Here is a link to a Swahili dictionary. http://africanlanguages.com/swahili/ Type in Kaka and the result you get is Brother. Kaka is of E.African origin only if one believes that mankind walked out of a valley in E.Africa. If one believes that the world is 6,000 years old, Kaka could be of Latin, Indian or Chinese origin. Strangely enough, one of the the first sentences my two year old constructed was, I want Kakas! My Goan parents took her to her potty. I told my wife we better start working on giving my daughter a brother. My wife, being the smartest in the family by far, told me to give my daughter some crackers. As far as name calling is concerned, the US has the opposite view. Those who use the term macacas are running for public office. Those who are being referred to by that term are the ones languishing in prison. May I add that they are in US prisons with out being charged with any crime. Sadly enough, these macacas are the lucky ones. The unlucky macacas are sent to torture camps in Europe, the Middle East and Asia. Mervyn3.0 To do a little good is better than to write difficult books. The perfect man is nothing if he does not diffuse benefits on others, if he does not console the lonely. The way of salvation is open to all, but know that a man deceives himself if he thinks he can escape his conscience by taking refuge in a monastery. The only remedy for evil is healthy reality. (Buddha, Benares Deer Park) Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
[Goanet] At home or school children remain equally vulnerable
At home or school children remain equally vulnerable Saikat Neogi, Hindustan Times Email Author October 28, 2007 Human trafficking is the worlds most lucrative businesses, after smuggling of arms and drugs. A study by Shakti Vahini, an NGO working on anti-trafficking issues, found that 378 of Indias 600 districts are affected by human trafficking. India is a major source and destination for trafficked children and by conservative estimates there are about three to five lakh girl children in commercial sex and organised prostitution. The National Human Rights Commission estimates that around 45,000 children in India go missing every year. Most of them are driven into prostitution, forced to work at homes and factories, pushed into begging, drug peddling and even in illegal organ trade. For those children who have been trafficked and rescued, rehabilitation remains scarce and reintegration arduous. Children are not even safe in their homes. A study conducted this year by the Ministry of Women and Child Development says two out of every three children in India are physically abused and in most cases parents and members of the family were the main perpetrators. Also around 54 per cent children have faced one or more forms of sexual abuse and states like Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Assam and Delhi are the front runners in child abuse cases. The study found that children in the age group 5 to 12 reported higher levels of abuse and boys were as much at risk as girls. The high abuse has been attributed to our patriarchal society where parents consider their children as their property and assume the freedom to treat them as they like. Severe physical abuse also takes place outside homes. The most common forms are corporal punishment in schools and physical abuse at work places. The study says 62 per cent of corporal punishment was in government and municipal schools. The study found that very often crimes against children are not reported, as some crimes are not covered under the existing laws. The National Crime Records Bureau reported 14,975 cases of various crimes against children in 2005 as against 5,972 cases in 2002. But this is only indicative in nature as it is based on reported cases. There is no comprehensive law on human trafficking, covering all its forms and purposes and the existing criminal laws fail to address the situation of child trafficking. In fact, the Goa Childrens Act 2003 is the only law that defines child trafficking, but this is just a state law and cannot be enforced countrywide. http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/ga.html Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Manohar parrikar - right choice for CM
Cajetan Rego wrote: IFFI is an investment. The cost that everyone complains about will be recovered in the years to come by way of tourism and fame. Cajetan Rego, I went for an early morning walk in Panjim earlier this year and came across the jetty/pier built for the IFFI. To my surprise, there was a big sign saying, Do not enter. I can assure you that the pier was not built for tourists. As for fame, it is hilarious that any CM would prioritize spending on (his?) fame while the citizens do not have basic services. Mervyn3.0 Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
[Goanet] God and you and mother Mary - to Mariano
Hi Mariano, Punjabees are not of a nomadic tribe, Rajasthanis? Yes. As I pointed out before their dress is Rajasthani in culture. Black Madona is 'Kali Ma'. As for Punjabees, they have Greek Blood in them. Alexander, when he came to India, most of his soldiers did not return to Greece, so why would Punjabees want to hit the road? and leave the breadbasket behind? ED. -- Gypsies, we call them Zigeuner here are a nomadic tribe originating in Punjab, India. Their language also is very close to the Punjabi. This nomadic people passed thru Egypt before arriving Europe, hence the Europeans thought they came from Egypt. Mariano Pereira, Frankfurt - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month.
Re: [Goanet] Six Lanes to Hell
Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: The usual political suspects in Goa have thrown their weight behind the creation of a new 6-lane highway. Like the proposed Special Ghati Zones this, too, is a terrible mistake. r, China developed only after the state built the infrastructure. Without infrastructure, you remain a backwater place with a backwater economy. Period. A six lane highway will only introduce Goa to the 20th century. It needs a modern airport and port to arrive in the 21st century. Thankfully, Singh understands this and is actually financing such projects in India. We should be thinking of ways to reduce motorized traffic and curtail our carbon emissions, not increase them. You cut carbon emissions by taking an hour to travel 100 kilometres. Travelling 100 Kms in Goa takes two hours today if you are lucky. Nobody talks about cultivating road manners and road culture, something that would enhance the quality of life much more than the pouring of fresh asphalt. There is an easy way to cultivate manners. Here in Canada you get fined $100 for reckless driving and your car insurance doubles. People manners change very fast when they are made to pay the penalties. The 6-lane highway will transform Goa - coastal Goa, at any rate - into one indistinguishable contiguous urban mass. The damage would be incalculable and irreversible. Goa is facing two options. It can remain a backwater state or it can be a vibrant economy. The choice, unfortunately, is not in the hands of residents. They have no capital. Mervyn3.0 Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
[Goanet] Our very own B. Colaco in action...
Check it out ! front man in action, how strong ? http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=3491cid=1 -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Inundated, request for I'm just a lonely boy!
Sorry, you tube does not have the original; this is especially for..lonely boy/girl, please click on the URL below:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMWQnzSGucc -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Manohar parrikar - right choice for CM
On Sat Oct 27 20:28:19 PDT 2007, Cajetan Rego wrote: I had a chat with Parrikar over the phone when he was trying to form the govt taking support from Babush. He said he was constrained by the current state of poiltics and had no choice but to form govt if Goa were to be saved from land sharks, corruption and bankrupcy. He would himself follow his ethics even if he were to side with Babush. He explained this to me for about 20 min without having met/known me. RESPONSE: I have probably responded to Cajetan in years gone by. Nevertheless, it amazes me the extent some people are prepared to go to blow Manohar Parrikar's horn here on Goanet. Not just Cajetan. We have Carmo and host of others that seem to pop-out of the woodwork. Question for Cajetan: Did Manohar Parrikar state publicly, to the people of Goa, what he told you over the phone - about compromising his ethics. Does he feed consistent information to the Goan public and his supporters?? Let him stand at public rallies and say that the will compromise his ethics to Save Goa. Is this not the same man we are told who initiated and approved the RP2011? Is this not the same man who authorised sweet-heart deals at the EDC for his relatives? And the list goes on.and on.and on.. Where were his ethics at that time?? And he says he wants to Save Goa?? I think anybody who tries to make a case for any of the present lot of politicians in Goa is wasting his time. BJP, Congress, whatever.They are all the same. Appears most politicians have been members of all the political parties at some time or the other of their career. These fellas have no ideology other than the almighty Rupiah!! The last thing on their mind is the people who voted them to the legislative assembly. Unless ofcourse its election time!! Talking of elections, the theatrics in the Congress camp days before the LS elections..Gawd!! The less said about Goan politicians here the better!! - Bosco
[Goanet] Support Romi konkani
Dear Mario: Politicians have needlessly made a mess out of this script issue...konkani will only flourish if every script is given due importance I really dont understand why people are so opposed to giving due recognition to Romi script. but the bigger problem than script is the issue of Goenkarponn itself..with the massive influx of non goans, and more hordes expected with SEZ and all konkani itself will be secondary to Hindi..in another 10 15 years given todays situation dont be surprised if majority of goans dont have konkani as their avoi bhaas it is going to be hindi the same thing has hapened in mumbai already with hindi being the most commonly used language... regards b __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Parriker and BJP could have turned Goa into Gujarat
Parriker and BJP could have turned Goa into Gujarat Had the Goan populace not used their brains at the last elections, by now porrikar and BJP zealots would have turned Goa into Godohra or Gujarat. Mr Vinay Natekar -- can you dispute any of the misgivings mentioned by Goa Suraj supremo, Mr Floriano. If parrikar was a messiah then why didnt he take on the Congress while in power? Parrikar and his co-horts were as corrupt as the Congress can be. So Parrikar is okay if his law minister goes on a rampage with the likes of ex Margao municipal council chairperson, kamilini Paingainkar etc. parrikar had nothing to say to his supporters like body builder datta palekar for defacing public property at Fountainhas? Parrikar had nothing to say when Digamber Kamat his no 2 henchman in the BJP was harrasing catholics in Margao? Werent the crores spent on kala academy not manupulated? where and who made that money disappear? Think gentle man...think! Cedric da Costa Dubai __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Parrikar
Goanetters, I feel if someone is trying to get something out doing somework he should work hard and do it for his benifit. If not hardly work and forget the job. IFFI 2004 was Parrikar's interest, if he was at the site around midnight or 2am it for his own good or he has given a target to finish the work. That is called taking interest, he is interested to getting interest(I mean profit). When Parrikar wanted to topple the new Government, it seems our CM was with Churchill place till morning to convince him not to take action. That is also for the interest of the Party. No one is doing any work without any profit. No doubts, I too heard many people talk good of Parrikar therefore he is voted at Panjim. Suppose if people thinks Parrikar is IIT and good administrator according to us he is in wrong Party. Cheers Regards, Mario Vicente Santos Pereira, *
[Goanet] Are the brits a derranged society!
Just been telling you'll guys all these two weeks. The UK is a country of crackpots. One has to be on guard all the time to avoid being killed. In a similar story below, a couple of my friends got beaten up for looking at a female in a pub. BC Hi Bernado, And, what about a young white man killed in McDonald's by father and son? ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Bishop/Diocese.
On Sun Oct 28 02:50:34 PDT 2007, CORNEL DACOSTA wrote: I can definitely be waspish when appropriate as in the case when I asked if the two padres were fit for purpose over the issue of Is Consensual Sex OK? RESPONSE: Everybody is entitled to their opinion on 'Consensual Sex' or any subject. Our opinions are influenced by various inputs - values, education, social, religious, reading, communication, etc, etc You and I may not agree with the two padres on this issue, nevertheless, it does not deny them the right to express their opinion. While it may appear illogical or inconsistent with the times to you and I, there was nothing illegal in whatever it is they expressed. Do we have to vilify them?? - Bosco
Re: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar - to Floriano
Dear Vinay, You are grossly wrong. What I did say is this: First of, let me say that you are not a non-entity It pays to look at what one is reading. I have no grudge against anyone who hold their own 'princes' and 'gods' high on pedestals (even if they do not deserve those). And as far as we are concerned (Goa Su-Raj) we do not believe that if we pick on one side and portray it as 'bad' it does not mean that we automatically take up for the other side as 'good'. For us the Congress is equally bad as your Manohar Parrikar's BJP, if not worse and both need to be cauterised for the general good of Goan and Goans. You are entitled to you opinions as I am mine. So let us keep it to an 'intelligent debate on preferences', just like in school- times, without showing our biases. Afterall good bad and ugly is as one perceives it. What is poison for one may be sweet honey for the other. And I don't have to prove anything. The world has seen it all. The MGP, the Congress, the BJP et al. best regards floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Vinay Natekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: Faisal Sharif [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar - to Floriano Dear Floriano You said Anamika is not a non entity but in fact you and your so call su ? raj party is a non entity in Goan politics. We do not need the pigmies to proselytize us on who is good and bad for Goa. Yor allegations against Parrikar are totally fabricated, spurious, deceptive, and importantly unproven. Do I need to list the numerous scandals of your debauch, scoundrel Congress Cronies over their all these years rule in Goa !! Show some mettle to expose them as well. Manohar Parrikar is credited with bringing the BJP to power in Goa. He is also credited with single handedly bringing the IFFI to Goa, and creating more international quality infrastructure in Goa for the event in a short time than any other former government. He is also known to be a man of action, and principles He has been the moving force behind the BJP's growth in Goa. His meticulous style of working and organisational skills has succeeded in creating a moralistic image of the BJP in the minds of Goans, who, keeping aside their reservations about its communal tag. During his tenure in the assembly as an opposition member, Parrikar made an impact with his uprightness and exposed several scams, including the infamous power scandal. Vinay -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.0/980 - Release Date: 8/30/07 6:05 PM
[Goanet] Six Lanes to Hell
On Sat Oct 27 09:47:52 PDT 2007, Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: We should be thinking of ways to reduce motorized traffic and curtail our carbon emissions, not increase them. RESPONSE: Are you proposing we ride the bullock cart, again? Nobody talks about cultivating road manners and road culture, something that would enhance the quality of life much more than the pouring of fresh asphalt. RESPONSE: Road manners?? In Goa?? You kidding, right ?? The 6-lane highway will transform Goa - coastal Goa, at any rate - into one indistinguishable contiguous urban mass. The damage would be incalculable and irreversible. RESPONSE: Are you suggesting the aligning of this 6-lane highway will occur along the present NH 17. This highway is presently meandering detrimentally too close to homes along several stretches. The govt should consider building a new highway in Goa's hinterland. There will be more trees to cut and more bridges to build over the khazan lands. And without proper EA safeguards, a bigger ecological disaster!! The Dilli savage now has a choice of flights from sunrise until sunset. A slew of trains is now on offer for the ghati from Bihar or AP. Getting into Goa has never been easier. RESPONSE: Hey, wait till the aliens figure this place out!! - Bosco
[Goanet] monday muse: Celebrating Sportsmanship
Monday Muse (29 Oct 2007) CELEBRATING SPORTSMANSHIP The purpose of any athletic endeavor is to challenge human limits both on and off the playing field. -Anon Last Saturday, we celebrated the fiftieth birthday of my brother-in-law. While in primary school, he saw a football match and was fascinated by the person dribbling with the ball. He wanted to be like that... He wanted to run ahead with the ball and have the rest chase him in vain. The dream was crystallized. Despite disapproving rebukes at home, he continued to play. Punishments turned to patronage as his elder brother noticed the emerging talent. At the age of 18, he went to Germany to learn social sciences, but ended up acquiring greater love and knowledge for the game. On his return, he joined Sesa Goa and began playing what is termed as the Goculdas style. His speed and skill won him numerous fans. He represented Goa State and was a proactive part of the Santosh trophy victory in 1983. However, the same year he had a terrible accident on field that forced him off it. But as they say, winners dont quit! Goculdas reinvented his role as a referee right up to the international FIFA panel. In 2002, he moved on to be Instructor for Referees. Thus Goculdas acquired the rare distinction of playing, refereeing and instructing in the game of football. Goculdas Nagvenkars life provides three lessons. The first inspiration comes from his passion that saw him emerge as a player of the highest order. Secondly, when forced to quit he developed a newer role as a referee and there to he excelled. Thirdly and most importantly (unlike most sportsmen) he did not ignore education and is a senior accounts officer of Sesa Goa. The path to ones dream is best built by developing newer facets to our personality and constantly measuring up to the emerging challenges. At 50, Goculdas continues to develop new dimensions to his life. His journey reflects his enthusiasm and commitment towards his dream. In a highly competitive world, sportsmanship is not just about morality and habits on the field. Sportsmanship is essentially about the attitude and actions that make a person surge ahead and show the way for others, too. Sportsmanship is about attitude, values and determination On and off the play-field, lets develop new dimensions Regards Pravin Sabnis 29 October 2007, Goa. check out the AV Gokuldas@ 50 by clicking the following link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYAwRRzzJNc A life coach with a passion to connect people to their potential, Pravin Sabnis conducts unlearning unlimited workshops for leading corporate and other groups. The Monday Muse series (since 2004) is dedicated to the annual theme of JCI-India. Pravin K. Sabnis visit: www.unlearningunlimited.blogspot.com www.poems-pravinsabnis.blogspot.com www.monday-muse.blogspot.com Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html
[Goanet] ‘Dabolim Airport requires bigger passe nger terminus’
Dabolim Airport requires bigger passenger terminus HERALD NEWS DESK PANJIM, OCT 28 Shantaram Naik, MP has demanded that Dabolim airport should have a bigger Integrated Passenger Terminus than the one planned. In a statement issued today, Naik says that daily traffic at the airport being around 4000, Dabolim should have a passenger terminus for catering at least 3000 passengers, if on account of constraint of land availability, a bigger terminus cannot be constructed. Naik said that he has been consistently arguing in the MOPA Committee that the Indian Navy have to produce the title documents of the land occupied by them at Dabolim including the land transferred by them to the Airport Authority. Naik said that it is not that he does not realise the Defence needs but that it is not fair that Navy should make the Goa Government and the Airport Authority to go with a begging bawl to the Navy asking for land when the land actually belongs to the Government of Goa, and that, the Navy has not produced any Deed of Transfer of the said land in their favour nor there is, to my knowledge, any such deed in the records of the Government of Goa. Naik said the officials of the Goa Government who were present during the first meeting of MOPA committee has assured him to investigate into the title of the land and submit the information before the committee. Naik said that it is only because in the last meeting when ICAO experts, who had earlier given a feasibility report regarding MOPA airport attended the meeting that he (Naik) had asked him a question whether he had taken into consideration existence of Dabolim Airport while giving the feasibility reports regarding the proposed MOPA airport, the expert said that he had not taken that aspect into consideration and that if the Committee wants to know about the feasibility of MOPA in the light of existing airport, a fresh study will have to be made. Naik further said since the term of MOPA committee has been extended up to October 31, 2007, a meeting of MOPA Committee is expected to be held soon. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=3525cid=26 Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] The Tehelka Expose - Gujarat 2000
Readers should take an hour of their precious time and go to Tehelka.com. As Tarun Tejpal the editor-in-chief says Read and be afraid. Specially scary is the webcam sting of Babu Patel aka Babu Bajrangi http://www.tehelka.com/story_main35.asp?filename=Ne031107After_killing.asp Roland. 416-453-3371
[Goanet] British MP Vaz on Cong campaign trail!
British MP Vaz on Cong campaign trail! BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, OCT 28 British Labour MP of Goan origin Keith Vaz made his presence felt at the Congress and NCP meetings held in Salcete in support of Congress candidate Francisco Sardinha on Sunday. Vaz was first seen at the Betalbatim meeting organised by NCP MLA Mickky Pacheco this evening. He even shared the dais with the NCP and Congress leaders at the Betalbatim meeting and waved to the audience when he was introduced by the compere. Later, he made a cool entry to the Lohia Maidan with Congress candidate Francisco Sardinha. Vaz was recognised by the Congress leaders seated on the dais as he was seated on the front row in the audience. Vaz was seen listening attentively as speakers after speaker spoke in favour of Sardinha. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=3517cid=26 Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
