[Goanet-News] Goa news for December 20, 2008

2008-12-19 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Advantage Bengal - The Statesman
[2 hours ago]  19: Ranadeb Bose's third five-wicket haul of the
season restricted Goa on 95 for 5 after thetwo-time champions
posted 337 in their first innings in the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=5theme=usrsess=1id=236854cid=1281687824ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNHCDqvmu0NUiyLcjYZfVssAuscLxg

*** Bengal plays Goa in Gangulys swansong - Hindu
[Dec 17, 2008]  NEW DELHI: Sourav Gangulys final appearance in
first-class cricket would be the highlight of the Bengal-Goa
Ranji Trophy plate league match at the Karnail ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/18/stories/2008121851951800.htmcid=1280176578ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNF072yGah2D56b7RRwRPbzpywybpg

*** No restrictions, Goa will party: CM - Times of India
[Dec 18, 2008]  PANAJI: On a day of confusing and conflicting
stands by various government departments, south Goa collector GP
Naik issued an order on Thursday banning ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/No_restrictions_Goa_will_party_CM/articleshow/3859909.cmscid=1281398725ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNGIdI49_G0MvZPSrhGD29qJmVUQ5Q

*** IIJS-Signature 2009 to be Held in Goa - Jewelers Circular
Keystone Online
[3 hours ago]  The seaside resort city of Goa will serve as a
place for attendees to mix business with pleasure. The show
itself serves as a premium niche event for select ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.jckonline.com/article/CA6624287.html?desc=topstorycid=1281678276ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNHqgf5h7ZUSomUes2QivkOEe1qnfA

*** Bombay HC approves Sesa Goa-Sesa Industries amalgamation -
Business Standard
[16 hours ago]  India's largest private iron ore exporter Sesa
Goa Ltd said the High Court of Bombay at Goa has approved the
Scheme of Amalgamation of its subsidiary Sesa ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/bombay-hc-approves-sesa-goa-sesa-industries-amalgamation/13/26/51513/oncid=1281531054ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNETq8LugSUaBuoGF1OgmxMGtC2lMQ

*** Leisure: Go Goa this year end ! - CIOL
[12 hours ago]  BANGALORE, INDIA: How about celebrating the New
Year's eve on the golden beaches of Goa! This New Year's eve can
be much more than just wine and dance to ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ciol.com/SMB/News-Reports/Leisure-Go-Goa-this-year-end-!/191208113992/0/cid=1281577718ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNHfBH0bXVAorDPB5ueQuAoGgKVpow

*** Adobe and Ghent Workgroup Experts Offering Free Seminars at
GOA - What They Think
[Dec 17, 2008]  For Graphics of the Americas ( Web Site Related
Articles Google) 2009 (GOA) attendees, it's incomparable
networking and, in an announcement made today, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://members.whattheythink.com/news/newslink.cfm?id=35004cid=1281347810ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNHoiXQVuQhZ93Vy-UlKSip4uvr0_A

*** At home, in Goa? - Times of India
[8 hours ago]  She said, I have my tickets booked for Goa but
I am not sure if I will be going there. And what, if we may
ask, could bring about a change in her plans? ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Fashion_Shows/At_home_in_Goa/articleshow/3862954.cmscid=0ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNH59YN8ml5QBPLjTIGG4f8-cWIkWw

*** Our woman in Goa - Times Online
[24 minutes ago]  I don't recommend a day trekking around Old
Goa. It's an old Portuguese town with a large church - that's
all. Mapusa market is a traditional outdoor market ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/destinations/india/article5365793.ececid=0ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNEWJe713rhXrLnG5Oo08RDY6PTrTw

*** Lalu to flag off train to Goa today - Times of India
[1 hour ago]  Patna: Railway minister Lalu Prasad will flag off
the much-awaited Patna-Vasco-da-Gama (Goa) train at a function
to be held at Patna Junction on Saturday. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Patna/Lalu_to_flag_off_train_to_Goa_today/articleshow/3863919.cmscid=0ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNEiMsZf_NkVtoXSn3JHzUDZFsWD3A


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[Goanet] Margao Xmas shooping - A video

2008-12-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Margao Xmas shooping - A video 
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kJUJvvw_Y

A pic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33501...@n08/3119526007/sizes/l/


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[Goanet] TECH-GOA: Giovanni Maruzzelli on Youtube.com

2008-12-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
Giovanni Maruzzelli on Youtube.com... during a Goa visit, at the
BITS-Pilani campus

Giovanni Maruzzelli ... on cheaper, more-affordable mobile communications (1/2)
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=r87zimhNQk4feature=channel_page

Giovanni Maruzzelli, on mobiles phones, affordability and Free Software 2/2
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=OMp-6c_JxsUfeature=channel_page

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[Goanet] REGINA FERNANDES - 100th Death Anniversary

2008-12-19 Thread godfrey gonsalves
The 100th death anniversary, of Regina Fernandes (native of Raia )wife of Pai 
Tiatrist Joao Agostinho Fernandes,  Modsai, Behind Holy Spirit Church, Margao 
Goa is on 30th December, 2008 according to family members, who informed this 
writer. 
 
The family will offer a Mass in her memory at the Holy Spirit Church at 0800 
hrs on 30/12/2008.
 
It may be recalled that late Regina was the first woman to act on stage, on 
22/11/1904 at a time when no lady would dare venture on stage due to social 
ostracisation.  Incidentally even  the Marathi stage did not have a woman on 
stage at that time.  Her  husband  who created many firsts in the Konknni 
tiatros, desired to break the traditional shackles of society and therefore he 
cajoled and convinced Ms Regina to dare all and she did.  This was indeed a 
proud moment for every Goan in Mumbai.
 
Later her sister too followed suit.  Otherwise it was the  trend to have men 
dorn the role of women.
 
It is unfortunate that till this date niether the tiatr fraternity nor the  
State Government of Goa has recognised this unique  achievement of this women 
who died at a very young age.  
 
Incidentally the family  of  Pai tiatrist had instituted a prize money of 
Rs.1000/- and a momento which was indeed awarded to the upcoming female actor 
from Merces during the X tiatr competition held by Vandana Productions Borim Goa
 
It is therefore not late for the women of Goa to do their bit at the centenary 
celebration,  
 
When this issue was brought to the notice of prominent Konknni playwright Mr 
Wilson Mazarelo he was surprised of the facts and agreed that something ought 
to be done but felt that the Dalgado Konknni Akademi who are now organising the 
first literary and cultural convention at the Pai Tiatrist Joao Agostinho 
Fernandes nagar, near Ravindra Bhavan on 20th and 21st December, 2008 could 
consider a suitable function on 30/12/2008.
 
 

GODFREY J. I. GONSALVES,
BORDA, MARGAO, 403 602, GOA. (INDIA)
+91 98221 58584 (24 HRS) 
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[Goanet] Daily Grook #308

2008-12-19 Thread Francis Rodrigues


DAILY GROOK #308
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SHOE 'FLU
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by Francis Rodrigues
(from an idea by I.G.)


georgie in iraq
shoe-d away all,
georgie did duck
to save his sole!


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puns  word-play of all kinds,
if you read between the lines!
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http://2008goanconvention.com/nostalgia.php

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Re: [Goanet] Arun Shourie on Islamic terrorism and failed Pakistani state

2008-12-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
Mario,

Thanks for those links. I will read them carefully, and see if they answer my 
questions about facts in this case. But regarding your anecdote, we all have 
them. I have a couple myself. One Pakistani person refused to work with me 
professionally because I was Indian. This person believes that India is 
responsible for all their problems, including terrorism. On the flip side, I 
know some Indians who canceled attendance to a party after they found out that 
some Pakistanis were also invited, and these are all highly educated 
non-Hindutva folk. The cause for this kind of prejudice is more likely to be 
uncritical reliance on ideologically biased media in both countries, and 
careless reporting. None of these educated characters in our stories are likely 
to have attended any madrassas or ekal vidyalayas.

As I am sure you understand, these kinds of anecdotes mean very little when 
drawing serious conclusions about the causes of terrorism. I will try to 
examine the evidence about what is actually taught to the children in Pakistan, 
and how many of them are known to have become terrorists. 

My own understanding, so far, based on my limited reading about terrorism 
psychology, and partly echoed by Selma, is that almost all of the terrorist 
recruits are common criminals, of whom there are plenty in every society. It is 
much easier to radicalize criminals, and graduate them to doing greater crimes, 
than normal people with intact innate moral sense. But I will let you know what 
I find.

Cheers,

Santosh


--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Here are some sources:
 
 http://www.scribd.com/doc/8572488/Pakistan-Jihad
 
 http://articles.latimes.com/2005/aug/18/world/fg-schools18 
 
 http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\07\25\story_25-7-2006_pg7_1
 
 http://www.outlookindia.com/fullprint.asp?choice=2fodname=20051010fname=Pakistan+%28F%29sid=1
 
 
 I also have a personal anecdote that I could not understand
 at the time, but do now.  A Pakistani physician friend took
 severe umbrage during a social function at my suggestion
 that the partition of the Indian sub-continent was one of
 the worst decisions in world history.  My reasoning was
 based on the fact that Pakistan and Bangladesh, with 95%
 plus Muslim populations, were essentially failed states,
 whereas an undivided secular India would have had about a
 28% Muslim population, double the current percentage, and
 this would have made all Indian minorities stronger.  Not to
 mention eliminated all the angst over Kashmir and the
 BILLIONS spent in human lives and treasure defending
 themselves against each other.


  


[Goanet] Greetings from - Núcleo de Animaç ão Cultural de Goa Damão e Diu - Macau.

2008-12-19 Thread renebarreto
Goemkars !


It is with great pleasure That i share a post - message  received
from Oscar Noruega of - Do Núcleo de Animação Cultural de Goa Damão
e Diu  (NACGDD)  - MACAU - and the coordinator of the 

  WORLD DAMAN GOA DAY  in Macau. 


Visit Oscar Noruega's Blog and listen to the beautiful music at: 
http://www.nacgdd.blogspot.com/

Greeting Card:  
http://globalgoanassociations.blogspot.com/

MESSAGE : 


Caro Rene / Dear Rene,

Votos desta quadra festivos para si e os teus mais queridos….

Do Núcleo de Animação Cultural de Goa Damão e Diu

Greetings for this festive season to you and your dear ones….

  From Núcleo de Animação Cultural de Goa Damão e Diu

  向您和您的家人獻上節日的祝福….

果阿、達曼和第烏文化協進會






excerpt from - Oscar Noruega NACGDD
REPORT - and VIDEO S - from MACAU
Núcleo de Animação Cultural de Goa Damão e Diu (NACGDD)

GOA, DAMÃO AND DIU COMMUNITY IN MACAU


The small but dynamic community of Goa Damão and Diu in Macau, has very 
much made their presence felt here in Macau, a Chinese dominated, multicultural 
territory with people not only  from the Portuguese speaking countries but 
also from other walks of life.


The art, culture and gastronomy of Goa, Damão and Diu are well known and very 
much appreciated  in Macau. For years through the ‘Grupo de Danças e Cantares 
de Goa Damão e Diu’, the folk songs  and dances like, Aum Saibá Poltodi Vétam,
Barra de Damão, O` Divan de Mogará and others have  been virtually instilled 
in the hearts of the Portuguese, Chinese and other communities. 


The people of Macau are so familiar with the historical and religious monuments 
through  the construction of replicas of the Arco de Vis Rei in Goa, Fortaleza 
de São Jerónimo in  Damão, Fortim do Mar in Diu and other monuments. They have 
also captured the taste  of our Sarapatel, Samosas, Bebinca, Aranha do Céu, 
Bolinhas de Coco and many more.

. more at :Núcleo de Animação Cultural de Goa Damão e Diu (NACGDD)
BLOG:
http://www.nacgdd.blogspot.com/



Don't just COMPLAIN , - address the complain and be a part of the solution 
.  Just do it  !MAKE IT HAPPEN - don't wait it to happen ! 


rene barreto
WORLD GOA DAY 
WORLD ALLAINCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS
GOANWORLD : http://worldgoan.blogspot.com/
==





[Goanet] Arun Shourie on Islamic terrorism and failed Pakistani state

2008-12-19 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
This message is in reply to Message: 1, dated: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 on subject:
Arun Shourie on Islamic terrorism and failed Pakistani  state

The writer writes: Arun Shourie is a joke. Arundhati Roy is a bigger joke..
I was appalled to hear Arun Shourie talk so glibly and irresponsibly to a
crowd that cheered without questioning him. I was even more appalled to read
the almost demented writings of Arundhati Roy. India's intellectuals are
polarized at the extremes...There is no evidence that Pakistan wants to take
over India and impose Islamic law in India. Where did this theory suddenly
spring from? Why are we just irresponsibly creating theories out of thin
air?.On the other hand, we have to be as vocal in condemning militant
Islamist groups as we are in condemning militant Hindutva groups..

My response: Recently above writer had written to Goanet that she is
studying story of Goa and that of origins of Goan surnames. From post it
appears as though the writer knows only the history of Portugal and does not
know the history of India more specifically about the history of India and
Pakistan relationships and how Pakistan was formed and who were the persons
responsible for the mess which will continue to haunt us for years to come.
While concluding I would like to say that if Arun Shourie and Arundhati Roy
are jokes the writer is a biggest joke in Goanet. 

Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad




[Goanet] Arun Shourie on Islamic terrorism and failed Pakistani state

2008-12-19 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
This message is in reply to message date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 from Santosh
Helekar on the subject: Arun Shourie on Islamic terrorism and failed
Pakistani state

 

Santosh writes: Do you have any objective pieces of evidence for the
allegation that Pakistani children are taught jihad against India, for us to
examine? I am not saying that you are wrong, but I don't know to what extent
you are right either. I am now fully convinced that we cannot trust any of
these activists and journalists who report on these things, whether it is
Arun Shourie or Arundhati Roy. Most of these folk seem to have deep-seated
pre-conceived agendas, and are very emotionally attached to them.

 

Therefore, we have to look at the actual infractions that have been found by
independent investigation(s) conducted by responsible bodies into these
things.

 

My response: W. r. t. your above message, please click on the links provided
here below:  

 

http://www.sdpi.org/whats_new/reporton/State%20of%20Curr
http://www.sdpi.org/whats_new/reporton/State%20of%20CurrTextBooks.pdf
TextBooks.pdf 

 

(To download pdf file)

 

http://72.14.235.132/custom?q=cache:V_2bil5q_MEJ:www.sdpi.org/whats_new/repo
rton/State%2520of%2520Curr%26TextBooks.pdf+pakistan+%2B+text+books
http://72.14.235.132/custom?q=cache:V_2bil5q_MEJ:www.sdpi.org/whats_new/rep
orton/State%2520of%2520Curr%26TextBooks.pdf+pakistan+%2B+text+bookshl=enct
=clnkcd=6 hl=enct=clnkcd=6

 

(To read the file in HTML format)

 

Above URL is in addition to the following URLs provided by Mario Goviea
earlier:

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8572488/Pakistan-Jihad

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/aug/18/world/fg-schools18

 

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\07\25\story_25-7-2006_pg7
_1

 

http://www.outlookindia.com/fullprint.asp?choice=2
http://www.outlookindia.com/fullprint.asp?choice=2fodname=20051010fname=P
akistan+%28F%29sid=1 fodname=20051010fname=Pakistan+%28F%29sid=1

 

Santosh, do you need more URLs on the subject.

 

Best regards,

 

Dr. U. G. Barad

 

 

 

 

 



[Goanet] BACK TO ECONOMIC BASICS

2008-12-19 Thread Averthan
For favour of early publication, please. Kindly acknowledge receipt.
=Averthanus= 
  _  


BACK TO ECONOMIC BASICS.

Averthanus L. D'Souza.

 

The term meltdown is currently used only to describe an
extremely serious destruction of a system.   It was first used in the
context of the total destruction of the nuclear power plant in Chernobyl  in
the then Soviet Union.   Meltdown connotes the destruction, not only of the
exteriors of a system, but also of its very core.  In this sense, the use of
the term financial meltdown applied to the current financial crisis is
entirely accurate.   Popular media describes the crisis in many ways -
financial crisis, economic recession,  deep depression,  et cetera.
However, the use of the term meltdown  describes the situation most
accurately because it best expresses the reality of what is happening to the
international economic system today.

 

 What we are witnessing is not just some dysfunction which has
brought about the collapse of the entire banking system but a more
fundamental flaw in the very foundation on which the entire banking system,
and,  for that matter,  the entire economic system, has been built.  These
fundamentals  are simply not compatible with objective realities and have
now proven to be unsustainable.   The meltdown  should cause us to take a
closer look at the very basics on which the Industrial Economy has been
constructed.   

 

Economic collapse and moral values.

 

The economic system has been built on the principle of
production.   Every aspect of the economy is driven by the need to
increase production.   Over the last few decades we have witnessed an
unprecedented emphasis on the need to increase production and to improve
productivity.   Governments have set up and fostered National Productivity
Councils and have provided incentives to increase productivity.   This has
involved the large-scale exploitation of  natural resources - mineral,
marine, fossil and even human.   Everything, including human beings, have
been treated as resources to increase production.   All the so-called Human
Resources Development programmes have been aimed at maximizing the use of
human resources in the productive process.   By a strange twist in the
nightmare of production, human beings have also become necessary as
consumers  of  the  very goods which they produce.   Thus the system has
created the need to bring about the unification of production and
consumption.   It is best represented  by the image of the serpent which is
swallowing its own tail.In reality,  we have created an economic system
which is self-destructive.

 

The present economic system requires the destruction (or
exploitation)  of resources which are not renewable.   Many scientific
studies undertaken over the past four decades have conclusively shown that
at the rate at which we are exploiting non-renewable  resources, we will
reach a dead end in less than a hundred years.  Coal, oil, lignite  and
other minerals will soon be exhausted.   Even now, the cost of recovering
these resources  has become uneconomic.However, we still, foolishly,
persist in pursing the unattainable goals set by myopic economic theories.
The present economic system, backed by the financial system,  has continued
to blow the bubble beyond its capacity to sustain the pressures.Like any
other balloon, the economic bubble has finally burst, with all the negative
consequences which we are now experiencing.   However, we have distorted our
perception to such an extent that we fail to see that we cannot put Humpty
Dumpty together again even if we galvanize all the king's horses and all the
king's men.Injecting billions of dollars into a system that has
collapsed is precisely the wrong thing to do.   What the world needs is an
alternative.

 

Gandhi and Schumacher.

 

The signs that our industrial economy was not sustainable was
evident to several wise men, most prominent among  whom  were Mahatma Gandhi
and Ernest Schumacher.  In his epoch making book Small is Beautiful
written in 1973,  Schumacher outlined his economics as if people mattered.
He was following in the footsteps of Mahatma Gandhi  who was convinced that
all production activity should be for the benefit of Man.   His saying that
there are enough resources to meet everyone's need, but not enough to
satisfy everyone's greed is often quoted loosely without a proper
understanding  of the underlying philosophy.Gandhi and Schumacher
distinguished  between misery, sufficiency and surfeit.   According to them,
no individual should suffer deprivation of the most basic necessities of
life.   On the other hand, they both asserted,  a surfeit of commodities
would result in economic disaster. Schumacher argued that economic
growth would be good only to the point of sufficiency.  Limitless growth
would be disastrous.How true their understanding  has 

Re: [Goanet] Arun Shourie on Islamic terrorism and failed Pakistani state

2008-12-19 Thread Mario Goveia
--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Therefore, we have to look at the actual infractions that
 have been found by independent investigation(s) conducted by
 responsible bodies into these things.
 
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:06:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com

Mario only knows that jihad is taught in Pakistani schools because some Fox
presenter must have done his own research into the matter and
presented it as a fair and balanced view of the world. I bet at the
end of the broadcast there must have been a dire warning, that we must do
something about Pakistan or else? There is no evidence that Pakistan
wants to take over India and impose Islamic law in India. Where did this theory 
suddenly spring from? Why are we just irresponsibly creating theories out of 
thin air?

Mario responds:

Wow!  Is such gratuitous and mean-spirited, not to mention factless, codswallop 
really necessary?  Couldn't Selma at least wait to see what I had to say, as 
shown in the following post, before shoveling this heap of horse manure onto 
Goanet?

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-December/085394.html

Selma wrote:

On the other hand, we have to be as vocal in condemning militant Islamist
groups as we are in condemning militant Hindutva groups. The one terrorist
caught alive is a petty thug from the villages of Pakistan. He used to rob
people at knife point. It is rather redundant examining profound motives by
these people. They are nothing more than hoodlums who don't subscribe to
any political ideology, nor are they seeking specific redress. They are
psychologically damaged individuals and the sooner we start treating them as 
the criminals they are, the better it is for all of us.

Mario responds:

Now that I have my hip waders on, yeah, right, let's treat suicidal
terrorists with non-negotiable demands as common criminals.  That really worked 
great for President Clinton throughout the 90's, didn't it?  I can see the 
Lashkar-i-Taiba leaders who follow Goanet, snickering into their beards as 
their plot their next deadly criminal attack on yet another group of innocent 
Indians:-))

I'm all for bashing the Hindutva's when they step out of line as I have
done time and again in this forum, but when was the last time a Hindutva group 
conducted an indiscriminate suicide attack on innocent civilians with AK-47s 
and hand grenades?  Perhaps Marshall can find us a handful of web links to 
enlighten us?









Re: [Goanet] Ref The Goodness of Coconut Water

2008-12-19 Thread Roland Francis
Right on Freddy.

I and my entire family are very fond of tender coconuts and coconut
water. Every weekend I go to the local Chinese mega fish and grocery
store and buy half a dozen tender coconuts at a dollar and a half
apiece. I then take them home, and with a chopper neatly de-husk them.
Then with a sharp pointed knife I poke the eye and let the water into
a glass. We get 9 glasses of water from those 6 coconuts.

I then neatly crack them in half, scoop the flesh and we all have a
hearty Saturday mid-morning snack. What is left I do ditto on a Sunday
morning and thus fortified, I get ready to fall asleep at the pastor's
or priest's service or mass (like a true liberal I alternate between
an evangelical church and a catholic one.

The tender coconuts one gets here are much better than the ones you
get in Goa, even compared to those in my aunt's coconut plantations in
Benaulim which I am told are much sought after in that part of Goa for
their unblemished taste. In Bombay selling tender coconuts has been a
Keralite monopoly for as long as I can remember. However unlike the
ones I buy in Toronto which have much water as well as good meat, in
Bombay you are asked malai ya paani? (flesh or water). Opt for one
and you get none of the other. The last time I was there in Sept 2007,
I paid 15 rupees for one. When I left Bombay in '76, it was 50 paise.
No too much of an inflationary adjustment for for the intervening 32
years. That I suppose is due to the coconut tree hybrids that made
their appearance and lowered the price.

Now tell me Freddy, is the flesh of the coconut as nutritious as the
water or is it bad for health as my wife is constantly telling me.

Regards,
Roland.


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Freddy Fernandes
ffernandes@emaar.ae wrote:
 Dear Goanetters,
 Came across this article and thought of sharing it with you all, Mother Nature
 in all it's goodness has given us this wonder drink, let us all drink it to
 health, Cheers !


[Goanet] Coconut and HIV

2008-12-19 Thread Roland Francis
Who could make the connection between the flesh of the coconut and
benefits to HIV? But here it is from a cursory search of the web.

Benefits Of Coconut

Coconut is a fruit that is consumed in a number of forms - raw
(flesh), milk, water and oil. The origin of the fruit is not clear,
though the two most possible places of its origin are South Asia and
South America. However, today it is cultivated in almost all the
tropical countries. Coconut is a simple dry nut, formed of a number of
layers. The outermost is the brown husk, formed of fibers called coir,
while the second one is endocarp i.e. an inner stone. As you remove
the second layer, you get to the testa, which covers the white and
fleshy edible part of fruit. Inside it is the coconut water,
associated with a number of health benefits. Coconut water is mostly
had from the green coconut, which is not fully ripe. Given below is
information on nutritional value and nutrition benefits of coconut 
coconut oil.

Nutritional Value of Coconut
Given below is the amount of nutrients in 100 gm of coconut meat:
Carbohydrates - 15.23 gm
Sugars - 6.23 gm
Dietary Fiber - 9.0 gm
Saturated Fat - 29.70 gm
Monounsaturated Fat - 1.43 gm
Polyunsaturated Fat - 0.37 gm
Protein - 3.3 gm
Thiamin (Vitamin B1) - 0.066 mg
Riboflavin (Vitamin B2) - 0.02 mg
Niacin (Vitamin B3) - 0.54 mg
Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B5) - 0.300 mg
Vitamin B6 - 0.054 mg
Folate (Vitamin B9) - 26 μg
Vitamin C - 3.3 mg
Calcium - 14 mg
Iron - 2.43 mg
Magnesium - 32 mg
Phosphorus - 113 mg
Potassium - 356 mg
Zinc - 1.1 mg
Energy - 350 kcal (1480 kJ)
Health  Nutrition Benefits of Coconuts/ Coconut Water
Being rich in dietary fiber, coconut flesh is good for those suffering
from constipation.
Coconut is good for building up the body muscles of thin and emaciated
individuals.
Coconut milk is good for curing sore throat and even helps relieve
stomach ulcers.
Coconut water has been found to be beneficial for people with kidney problems.
Coconut water is believed to lessen the rashes caused by smallpox,
chickenpox and measles.
Coconut water is said to be good for the skin.
Coconut water is used to treat intestinal worms and relieves stomach
and urinary problems.
It has been claimed that coconut water is beneficial for the people
suffering from diabetes.
Researches have suggested that coconut helps in reducing the viral load of HIV.
The organic iodine content of coconut helps in preventing simple
goiter (enlarged non-toxic thyroid).
Benefits of Coconut Oil
Apart from being good for the skin and hair of a person, coconut oil
has been found to be beneficial in case of the following ailments.
Stress
Heart Diseases
High Cholesterol Levels
Too Much Weight
Kidney Problems
Poor Digestion
Low Metabolism
High Blood Pressure
Low Immunity
Dental Problems
Diabetes
Low Bone Density
HIV
Cancer
Premature Aging
Pancreatitis

See: http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/lounge/benefits-of-coconut-1718.html


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Roland Francis
Toronto
+1 (416) 453.3371


[Goanet] Goan Reader- Afric through Goan Eyes

2008-12-19 Thread Mervyn Elsie Maciel
Well done, Mervyn.I thoroughly enjoyed your Tanzania reminisces, so vividly
narrated.
It took me back to my own days in East Africa(Kenya).
I hope your latest contribution will encourage other Goans  who experienced
such adventurous lives in Africa, to come up with their own stories.
 The story about schoolchildren finding lions in their classroom would make
an
interesting contribution to the Only in Africa column of a Kenya-based
magazine, OLD AFRICA, to which I subscribe and contribute articles from time
to time.
  Their website is www.oldafricamagazine.com  and if you wish to submit a
short account of the 'lions in the classroom' and/or some of your fishing
adventures, you can e-mail this to editor...@oldafricamagazine.com
Congrats -once again.


Mervyn Maciel


[Goanet] GBA on Liberation Day

2008-12-19 Thread Miguel Braganza


GBA empowers villagers on Goa Liberation Day

The  GBA, led from the front by Co-Convener Sabina Martins and Secretary Reboni 
Saha, made a presentation at Cansaulim Village Panchayat and Gram Sabha on how 
to read a plan and what to look for in the draft Village Plan given to each 
Panchayat on 22 November, 2008. The was preceded by hoisting of the national 
tricolour and followed by a presntation by Julio D'Silva on the village 
planning done by Chandor Village as well as  a demonstration by Mr. Prabhudesai 
of ICAR on vermicomposting for garbage management.

 The GBA presentation was based on the DRP 2021 Plan for South Goa district 
[Map B2], map for and maps for Cansaulim village in DRP 2021  and RP 2011, as 
well as a Digital Globe image of the village,  was followed by an interaction 
with the participants from the villages and GBA team.  From the village of 
Terekhol in Pernem to the village of Agonda in Canacona, the villagers have 
noticed the differences between what the DRP 2021 shows and what they can 
actually see on the ground. Earlier today, the GBA also made a presentation on 
the DRP 2021 to the Village Committee of Velsao.

 Garbage and the Draft Regional Plan 2021 are perceived as bigger threats to 
the village of Cansaulim-Arossim-Cuelim than the terrorists from LeT. The 
villagers are arming themselves with information to defend themselves against 
these twin threats. They want compost pits for the garbage and sand dunes to 
protect their beachfront, not in bunkers on their beaches. In liberated Goa, 
the people also want the power at the Panchayat level to plan for themselves as 
guaranteed by the Constitution of India.


In the afternoon, the GBA held a meeting of volunteers, both old and new, to 
plan a strategy for the future. Empowered by the interpretation of the law 
given by Mr. T. Raghunathan, Joint Secretary [Panchayats] in the Government of 
India, and the interaction with Mr. Vinod Kumar of MAITHRI-Kerala, the GBA 
members are guiding the villagers on what can be done at the village levels. 

Villagers do not want to sacrifice land to provide ten metre wide “Main Village 
Roads” so that the builders can get “commercial” zoning for apartment blocks in 
their villages using the ten metre roads as their access. The existing five or 
six metre wide village roads are good enough for the villagers. They do not 
want broad roads that have already become difficult for pedestrians to cross in 
Panaji and other major towns. They also do not want vehicles zooming at high 
speeds on broader village roads that are proposed in the DRP 2021.

The GBA represents the voice of the people. This is quite clear from the 
support that the GBA has received in the villages across Goa during the 
December, 2008, as it did in December, 2006. The village level contacts and 
presentations will continue as requests continue to pour in.

Mog asundi

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[Goanet] 1st Konkani Culture and literary festival at Margao

2008-12-19 Thread Miguel Braganza

Dears,

 
Please inform your friends about the Konkani cultural programme tomorrow and on 
Sunday organised by the Dalgado Konkani Akademi at the Pai Tiatrist Joao 
Agostinho Fernandes hall, Ravindra Bhavan, Margao.

 The programmes are
Saturday evening, 20 December, 2008
1. 4.30 P.M. Official inauguration [for those interested in the status of 
Konkani in Goa today]. The CM is scheduled to be the Chief Guest. He was also 
scheduled to be the Chief Guest at the 42nd Mando festival and Tomazinho 
Cardoz's book release earlier this month ...but was not there. So if he is not 
there at the festival, I would not be surprised. The Lok Sabha elections do not 
worry him so much as his own seat  and business associates. I would be 
happy to be proved wrong.
2. 6.30 P.M. onwards Cultural programme/entertainment
 
Sunday morning, 21 December, 2008
9.30 A.M. Cultural programme
10.00 TALKS on Novels, Poems, Essays.
12 noon Cultural programme
1.00 P.M. Lunch
 
3.00 P.M. TALKS Education, Tiatr and Youth
5.30 P.M. Valedictory function. Churchill  Alemao is the Chief Guest and you 
can best your last rupee that he will be there. the South Goa Parliamentary 
seat will be up for grabs in less than six months from now ...and he has his 
eyes on it for the love of Valanka.
 
6.30 P.M. Tiatr Tandellanchem Kestanv written by Pai Tiatrist Directed by 
Anil Kumar.

On Saturday we remember the sacrifice of Florian Vaz, the twenty years old boy 
who was killed by Police at Gogol-Margao this day 22 years ago, 20 Dec. 1986 
during the KPA-led Konkani agitation.

 
I know it is almost Christmas time and everyone is busy, but if you can make 
the time, do come and encourage the people who have put this programme together 
...all for the love of Konkani.
 
Mog asundi
 
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[Goanet] A veto based on lies and misinformation

2008-12-19 Thread Bernado Colaco
At the 988th meeting of the Security Council held on 18th December 1961, 
France, Turkey, the United Kingdom and the Untied States submitted a draft 
resolution (S/5033) that the Soviet Union vetoed.

The Soviet veto was based on lies, misinformation and the aggressors innuendo. 
Information such as Portuguese forces which had entered Goa as reinforcement 
and had been threatening all of the people of Goa and the neighbouring 
population in India. 

Secondly GDD was an integral part of india because of its geographical 
situation. In this case one wonders why Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, or Sri 
Lanka are not states of india? 

Besides the veto says that people of Goa and Portugal had nothing in common. 
One wonders what are the parameters of human commonality? Take for example 
President Pandurang from Chimbel who has colonized USA and an ardent VHP master 
lives in a Christian based and tolerant country. What does he have in common 
with the USA?

Another lie was that Goa 'could' become a base (wrong hypothesis) for NATO 
operations because it had joined that organisation. 

47 years ago the aggressors and their cronies the soviets managed to pull the 
wool over the UN's eyes. Today Goa is part of a dobiant (tin) republic)

BC






Re: [Goanet] A pair of shoes

2008-12-19 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:40:29 +0530
From: Frederick \FN\ Noronha f...@goa-india.org

Ashow Row Kavi (whom I usually don't agree with) on the SAJA mailing
list... interesting point:

SOMEONE had to tell Bush he is not liked; that the rest of the world
is totally horrified of the unwaranted invasion of Iraq that has
killecd millions of innocents in :colateral damage. 

Mario responds:

I have no idea who Ashow Row Kavi is that Fred agrees with in this instance, 
but the guy is obviously either abysmally ignorant of what has gone on in Iraq 
for the last several years, or is sympathetic to the tyrants who oppressed it 
previously.

To begin with, the rest of the world was horrified at Saddam Hussain's defiance 
of the UN, not at his removal, which is why the UN passed 17 resolutions on the 
issue of the missing WMDs.  Iraq in its new liberated form has since been 
recognized by the UN as a free and sovereign nation. 

The only ones who were horrified at Saddam's removal were those who prefer a 
brutal dictatorship by a small cabal to a free democracy for 25 million 
Muslims.  Apparently, these include Mr. Kavi and Fred.

Secondly, after deposing the Saddam regime and helping the Iraqis form a 
government, the coalition forces are in Iraq at the request of the Iraqi 
government which needs them to stabilize their nascent democracy until they can 
secure themselves, which will take another few years.

Thirdly, the liberation of Iraq was hardly unwarranted unless someone is 
clueless about the 17 UN resolutions over 12 years that Saddam did not comply 
with, including the ultimatum in UN 1441 for him to disclose what he had done 
with his WMDs of face severe consequences.

Fourthly, anyone who is not deaf, dumb or blind would know by now that the vast 
majority of innocents killed in Iraq have been killed by Al Qaeda and a small 
number of Shia and Sunni sectarian extremists.  The inevitable collateral 
damage by coalition forces is due to the terrorists hiding among and behind 
innocent civilians while attacking, not to mention those critics who can 
immediately re-classify a dead terrorist into an innocent civilian since both 
look exactly the same.

Mr. Kavi wrote:

But he has a right to do that as an Arab -- and human being -- who saw
the horrors of what a powerful nation is doing to people who just want
to be left in peace to work out their fate.

Mario responds:

To begin with, it is unethical and unprofessional for a journalist to get so  
emotionally involved in his reporting.  Secondly, the rest of the statement 
above is unadulterated codswallop since the powerful nation is in Iraq at the 
behest of the Iraqi government which has asked them to stay until they are 
ready to take over.

Mr. Kavi wrote:

Unlike his present employer, I would definately tell him that he's
been a bad journalist but a great activist and honour him as such. I
would be very careful of his subsequent reports whether his honesty
was getting the ahead of his objectivity  and check his facts
carefully as a chief sub.

Mario observes:

This confused mentality shows that Mr. Kavi has ethical problems of his own and 
I would be very careful of anything he writes lest it be biased and misleading.

Mr. Kavi wrote:

His being embedded in his Arab nationalism was a very human reaction
to something that is impossible to not be a part of. In fact it must
be honoured because that is giving us the other side to this war.

Mario observes:

Even more codswalllop.  Al Zaidi illustrated the side that would have preferred 
a continuation of the Saddam Hussain regime, which is the same side Mr. Kavi 
and Fred happen to be.  The other side is that most of Iraq has been pacified, 
Al Qaeda is on the run and Iraq is well on the way to its democratic destiny, 
thanks mostly to President Bush, delayed only by those who would deny by force 
the democracy the Iraqis have voted for.

If it hadn't been for the small number of Islamic terrorists and their 
desperate and homicidal attempt to deny the Iraqis their desire for freedom and 
democracy, with the moral support of Mr. Kavi and apparently Fred, Iraq would 
have been well on the way to peace and prosperity by now.

Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:47:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca

Whole we are having fun on Goanet,...

Mario observes:

The only ones who are having fun at this puerile act of defiance that 
embarrassed sensible Iraqis and their government are those who sympathize with 
the previous regime in Iraq and disapprove of its removal, just like the 
ungrateful Al Zaidi apparently does as well.

BTW, the miscreant had apologized for his transgression and is begging for 
pardon.  
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9555QEO0show_article=1

So much for his committment to his cause.














[Goanet] New website of TSKK and new publications

2008-12-19 Thread pratap naik
TSKK’s New website and New Publications
 
Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr’s (TSKK) website www.tskk.org has been redesigned 
by Team Inertia Technologies, Panaji.  It was launched on 18 December 2008 by 
Mr Wilson Wilmix Mazarello, the Convenor of Romi Lipi Action Front.  It 
contains the information about TSKK, its facilities, courses, activities and 
its mini botanical garden. Besides, it has a Konknni section in Roman script.  
This section contains sub-sections like: Aichem Jevonn (thought for the day), 
Lokdaiz (Konknni folklore: proverbs, riddles), Mhoineache Suvalle (festivals of 
Goa), Angonn (children’s corner: nursery rhymes, stories), Umalle (Konknni 
SMS), Bolkanv (information of new releases of Konknni books, important current 
events in Konknni world), and Motiam (learn new Konknni words and their 
usage).  For the time being this information will be renewed on 1st and 16th of 
every month.  Based on the demands and financial support of its viewers TSKK 
intends to make this Konknni
 section as a weekly net magazine. TSKK hopes through its Konknni section, 
Konknni will be popularized and Konknnis (Konknni speakers) will be united 
through the Roman script.  The English section gives the information of recent 
important Konknni functions and events.  TSKK invites suggestions to improve 
its website from the viewers and readers. 
TSKK Research Bulletin Sod 13 was released at TSKK premises on 18 December 
2008 by Mr Cipriano Lopes, Programme Executive of Doordarshan, Goa.    It 
contains articles mainly related to scripts. It contains articles of Late 
Suniti Kumar Chatterji, C. Sivaramamurti, Vasudevsharan Agrawala, Tomazinho 
Cardozo, Wilmix Wilson Mazarello, Salvador Fernandes, Seby Fernandes, Vincy 
Quadros, Godfrey Gonsalves, Ancy D'Souza, Vincy Quadros, J.B. Moraes, Nina 
Maria Caldeira and Pratap Naik. It contains 122 pages.
The revised and enlarged second edition of Devanagari Lipient Konknni Borounchi 
Promann Rit was released at TSKK premises on 18 December 2008 by Ms Manisha 
Toraskar, a primary teacher of St. Anthony High School, Guirim, Goa. It 
contains orthography rules for writing Konknni in Devanagari script. It is 
written by Dr Pratap Naik, S.J., the director of TSKK and Mrs Shilpa Salvi, a 
research assistant at TSKK. It is an ideal book for those who want to learn to 
write standard Konknni in Devanagari script. It contains 74 pages.
 


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[Goanet] Bread and More- An eating joint in Margao away from the crowded restaurants

2008-12-19 Thread Savia Rodrigues
Hi..

Here's a review of the Eating Joint Bread and More in Margao

The other day I had to meet a school friend of mine and since Margao has a
lot of packed restaurants in the evening, we were inclined to choose a
restaurant away from the hustle and bustle of city life.



We decided to go to Bread and More which is located in a nice corner near
the BSNL Telephone Exchange and Fatima Convent. There is a lot of parking
space too out there, something one has to keep in mind while shopping in the
crowded streets of Margao. 



Read the entire post with photos by clicking this link
http://www.reviewgoa.com/?p=455



Do visit the place and don't forget to type a review and rate the place on
www.reviewgoa.com



Regards,

Savia.


[Goanet] Christmas in Orissa

2008-12-19 Thread Marshall Mendonza
With Christmas approaching soon, Orissa is once again on tenterhooks. The
RSS has declared a bandh on 25th Dec 2008. to intimidate and  provoke the
christian community. Lets hope good sense prevails and the Orissa government
acts against this threat with a firm hand.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/PoliticsNation/Fresh_Kandhamal_bloodshed_likely/articleshow/3850970.cms

Regards,

Marshall


Re: [Goanet] An Unknown Freedom Fighter

2008-12-19 Thread Fr. Ivo C da Souza

AN UNKNOWN FREEDOM FIGHTER

  We do remember our freedom fighters. Each one of them has done a lot 
for the liberation of Goa. I have come to know about one of them who has 
remained unknown, though he has been living as a man for others.


Professor Carlos da Cruz was a man of character, dedicated, sincere, 
selfless, who fought for the human rights till his death. He was a man of 
silence, but a man of action: silent action. He continued to live in silence 
in the memory of our people. He was a man of calibre. Even stones should be 
telling about the moral greatness of this man. Carlos Luís Martinho Nazário 
da Cruz was born on July 28, 1907 in Chandor (Chandrapur), Salsete, Goa. His 
parents were João Napoleão Víctor da Cruz and Amélia Ritinha Clara Lobo e 
Cruz. He excelled in several fields: he was a professor/teacher, journalist, 
freedom fighter, selfless social worker. It is interesting to know about his 
life so that our youth may emulate him.


He studied in the National Lyceum of Panjim (Nova Goa). He was not allowed 
to finish his studies, because he revealed his independence of spirit. He 
completed his Escola Normal and did the examination  of law, without having 
finished the 5th year of Lyceum. He was clever and passed his exams with 
flying colours. He was sent to the backward village of Arambol, where he 
toiled and moiled for the poor people. He started a night school for the 
workers.  It was the first night school in Goa. He taught them human rights 
and etiquette. He was writing constructive articles for journals. He was 
sending articles for «Anglo-Lusitano», but they were not published. Then he 
began his own paper «Oriente» and continued to fight against injustice 
perpetrated by the Portuguese Government aginst Goan people. He was 
transferred to Silvassa, capital of the district of Dadra and Nagar-Haveli 
(which was belonging to the Portuguese till 1954). He continued to teach and 
impart the knowledge of the Portuguese language and culture to the simple 
people. He observed inhuman conditions of the people and worked for them. 
The people were adivasis, indigenous and primitive. There was a lot of 
corruption there. He began publishing another journal «Sandalcado», under 
the name of a river that flows between Great Daman and Small Daman. He was 
dismissed from the service, nonetheless he continued to work and to fight 
for the rights. He was imprisoned by Portuguese authorities twelve times, he 
was really a saviour for those people.He came to know other Goan 
revolutionaries, like Dr.Tristão Bragança Cunha, and became an active member 
of the Committee of the Goa Congress. He was also in contact with the 
nationalist leaders like Ram Manohar Lohia. He was writing to Jawaharlal 
Nehru on political events of Goa. On August 2, 1954, Nagar-Haveli was 
liberated and became part and parcel of India. The Government of India named 
him Public Prosecutor of  Nagar-Aveli. Even in this post he worked for the 
uplift of the adivasis.


 He died suddenly at the tender age of 51 years, after a brief illness, 
on August 25 of 1958. While he was ill, he heard the National Anthem on 
August 2 and rose from his death-bed to salute the Indian National Flag on 
Dadra's Liberation Day. Then he asked that a handful of earth of his native 
village of Chandor, which he had fetched, be put in his grave, and breathed 
his last. He gave one rupee from below his pillow to his wife for his 
funeral rites. He died poor without leaving one pie. He devoted himself for 
the uplift of the masses. We find these words on his grave:


Life for him was a mission,/His daily lot a martyrdom,/Honours and wealth 
he sought not,/But for the oppressed freedom.













[Goanet] After the horror / Don't do an America

2008-12-19 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Mario:I was the only one in this forum who opposed the call in another post
for Narendra Modi to assume national leadership in India based on his new
perception as an administrative genius.

Response: Since you have made a point that only you responded to the article
on Narendra Modi, here is my take on it.

1.Narendra Modi from all accounts is not personally corrupt. He has a
relatively clean image.He is also charismatic.
2.He is in total command of the party in Gujarat as well as the state
administration. Hence, no dissent is tolerated. At the moment this works to
his advantage. But he definitely lacks democratic qualities that Nehru had
even though he stood tall. Because of his dictatorial style, he is able to
take quick decisions. That is why he has become a darling of the
industrialists and businessmen.Remember, all over the world, capitalists
love to do business with dictators.
3. Modi is a bachelor and thus is free from the nuisance of relatives.
4. Modi despite winning Gujarat for the BJP has tarnished his image in the
country and internationally.Soon after the Gujarat genocide, in order to
salvage his image, he appointed a PR firm to give his image a boost. The PR
firm has done a relatively good job. They first tried to typecast him as a
person interested in developmental. Hence immediately after the Gujarat
carnage, Vibrant Gujarat conventions were held. Though they were given
wide publicity, the actual investment that flowed in was inconsequential.
The Dandiya Raas which is close to every gujarati's heart was also
organised and touted as a major tourist event. It is my view that this won
him many friends overseas and a loyal following.
5. There is a saying that sometimes even good flows out of evil deeds. After
the 2002 carnage, Modi cannot afford to have a repeat of that again. For
one, there is no friendly government at the centre. Secondly, he has become
something of a pariah in the USA and UK where majority of the gujaratis
live. His US visa was turned down. And he can visit the UK only in his
personal capacity, not as the Chief Minister of Gujarat. Hence, he has
ensured that there are no more full scale riots in Gujarat despite
Akshardham, Ahmedabad blasts etc.He has been forced to keep hotheads from
the sangh parivar like Dr Praveen Togadia under strict control. Hence,
ironically, Modi is facing maximum opposition from within the sangh parivar
and BJP. In fact, he is extremely unpopular within the sangh parivar,
although they have to tolerate him as they need him for his strongman image
and vote gathering ability.Today Modi is bigger than the party. Even Advani
is dependent on Modi for getting elected from Gandhinagar. Hence even Advani
cannot afford to antagonise Modi.
6.Gujarat and Maharashtra have always been frontline states so far as
investments and industrialisation is concerned and have always competed for
the best investment destinations. This continues to this day, although other
states like Karnataka (pre Deve Gowda), AP and Tamil Nadu have caught up
immensely. Gujaratis are natural entrepreneurs. They have always been in
business, much prior to even the birth of Modi.They were among the first
Indians to venture overseas to countries like UK, USA, Canada, Kenya,
Tanzania, South Africa where they mostly set up businesses. Therefore to
give credit to Modi is being facile. Gujaratis will continue doing well in
business even after Modi.
 7. It is extremely doubtful whether Modi will command the same following
outside Gujarat and whether he will be able to replicate Gujarat elsewhere.
India has too many divisions like caste, creed, language, etc. Each group
has made itself strong in its pockets of influence. Hence today, it is
impossible for any party which is not inclusivist or represents the
interests of the various segments to come to power on its own.
8.Despite industrialists and PR firms falling head over heels over Modi and
comparing him to God, there are significant sections of society who do not
accept what he has done. He has lost many elections when things were normal,
but could win landslides on emotional issues.
9. Finally, Modi is still not out of the woods. Though justice takes a long
time, like truth, it ultimately prevails. There  are numerous cases going on
besides a commission of enquiry.So far no person who has been indicted has
been able to hold the nations highest offices.

Regards,

Marshall


[Goanet] Modorn_also an euphemism!? True? Why?

2008-12-19 Thread Venantius Pinto
I am seeking thoughts as to why certain prostitutes were earlier referred to
as modorn (godmother*). Was it across Goa or only in certain enclaves? Was
it an euphemism? Was the word modorn used tongue in cheek, or in an
endearing manner of address? I have briefly heard of services rendered by
them to our suave gents who have now closed ranks, and their lips. But need
your help to put this thought to bed.

Now a modorn joke as narrated by a Goan living in Europe:
A paklo** visits a modorn. The paklo wore a gomu (rubber, rubber sheath, a
prophylactic) to perform his maithun (yaun sampark/kriyA, yaun sambandh,
sehvAs, sambhog).**
He satiates himself and goes away. The next morning, the modorn, lets call
her Afflicted, in Portuguese Afligido; goes to the kumao, and realizes that
something rubbery is peeking. Says she -- incredulously, Shiii baba, Mai
zo_neacho, zo_on ghelo pun katt(ui) soddun ghelo. (Utters a sound
expression(xy) of disgust, but softened with baba [in general, a way of
addressing men respectfully] (xy man), Mother f__ker he, screwed he did, but
indeed left his skin behind.) The allusion is to a snake moulting.


**do not flip out at the use of the word
***someone please provide an acceptable word/s in Konknni, if there exist
other than the z-words.

Contemporary modorns if you are readying this, feel free to contact me
Goanet or directly.

venantius j pinto




venantius j pinto
* godmother, in Konknni 'dharmamai' (not referring to prostitution)


[Goanet] Can mine owners be the new heroes?

2008-12-19 Thread Cecil Pinto
Can mine owners be the new heroes?
He who drinks, throws up solution - Confucius

By Cecil Pinto

Last week, at a press conference to express solidarity with the
villagers of Colamb in their battle against the marauding mining
companies, fashion designer, writer and activist Wendell Rodricks
announced that he would neither entertain nor hang out with
politicians or corporate honchos, whose mining firms were wrecking
hell on indigenous Goans. He also stated he would not share a dais
with Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, who he claimed was directly
responsible for the excesses against tribals by mining companies as he
holds the Mining portfolio.

Bravo! This was a long time coming. I have often thought that a social
boycott and stigmatizing of politicians, illegal miners and all such
known criminals would be a good first step to send a message across.
As it is our voting patterns are a joke. We talk no end about how
corrupt the current lot of politicians are and then we vote the same
crooks into power again and invite them to inaugurate things and give
away prizes. Maybe this social boycott approach will work.

I though to myself, What can I do to support Wendell's gesture? I
don't know any MLA or minister personally so the question of
entertaining them does not arise. Or maybe I could throw a party for
Desmond's First Holy Communion and then specifically send a note to my
MLA saying that he is not welcome. Ha! That would be cool.

With all these social boycott ideas swirling in my head I went to the
local bar. Names of individuals have been changed, specially of those
who have wives who don't approve of their husbands socializing with
me. My favourite watering hole is dark and stuffy. Everbody knows
everybody and interrupting conversations at other tables is the norm.

I dramatically brought things to the fore by asking the barman,
Somnath, How can we convince people to stop socialising with
politicians and miners?' Manuel, the small-time caterer, ambled over
and boomed in Konkani, I will boycott miners! I will not use miners.
In fact miners is bad for this hot climate in Goa. So many times it
gets spoilt and then we are blamed. I have told Gracy not to make
miners but then clients are insisting… It took us a few dumbstruck
minutes to realize he was talking about mayonnaise, pronounced
'miners' in Konkani.

From the corner of my eye I saw Rahul sauntering in. Now Rahul was
much too young to be drinking but mostly he just sips on a beer and is
busy sending text messages to his many girlfriends. Somehow through
the Chinese whispers at the bar the news reached Rahul. Suprisingly he
perked up and came up to our table. Of course we should boycott
miners. All these incidents are spoiling the reputation of Goa.
Innocent guys get blamed. Last time my friend was locked up overnight
and questioned for no reason. Specially these English and German
miners. See what just two miners did to the reputation of Goa. No
socializing with miners! We shooed Rahul away as we realized he was
talking about 'minors'.

Will Wendell stop writing for Goa Today magazine? asked Augusto,
After all it is owned by miners. Good point Shyam said, Maybe we
can stop buying Goa Today and Navhind Times and… Tony interrupted,
Maybe we should stop sending our children to schools and colleges
managed by trusts controlled by miners? Maybe we should stop
patronizing hotels owned by miners? Satyavan interrupted When did
you last go to a three star hotel leave alone a five star. Speak about
the normal things you do.

Maybe I should tell my relatives to cancel that booking for a flat
coming up in a complex built by miners. We should not attend
football matches where teams sponsored by miners are playing! My
neighbour works for a mining firm. I will not take Our Lady from her
house! My wife's cousin's son transports ore in his truck. I will
not invite him for Ganesh Chaturti! The atmosphere was getting
aggressive.

Oie!, Somnath exclaimed, We're getting a bit carried away
here. Wendell, I think, called for a boycott of mine owners as
individuals and not necessarily their associated businesses or
employees.

But since we don't know any miners personally this will be a good way
of making a statement, no? Their businesses and employees are finally
tainted by the money made from mining, no?

You guys are making the classic activist error of wanting to use cell
phones and not wanting cell towers. The world needs mining. We need
mining, and not just for the economy. Look around you. See how many
things are made from mined metals like iron. How will we get iron if
we don't have mines?

So mining is good now?

Illegal mining is bad. It's raping our land. I am sure that concerned
people like Wendell are well placed to convince their miner friends to
form a body that identifies the mercenary miners who are operating
illegally. These mines should be closed immediately and the mine
owners severely penalised.

Next all parties have to sit around the table and 

Re: [Goanet] Coconut and HIV

2008-12-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

Researches have suggested that coconut helps in reducing the viral load of 
HIV.


No such researches have been published supporting the above assertion in the 
medical literature. There is only a brief message in 1999 that a study to test 
this hypothesis would be started in the Phillipines. There is no documentary 
evidence in the medical literature since then that the study was ever 
undertaken and completed. The rest of the medical benefits of coconut reported 
in this post also appear to be dubious or dangerously false.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Benefits Of Coconut
 ...
 Coconut water is believed to lessen the rashes caused by
 smallpox,
 chickenpox and measles.
 Coconut water is said to be good for the skin.
 Coconut water is used to treat intestinal worms and
 relieves stomach
 and urinary problems.
 It has been claimed that coconut water is beneficial for
 the people suffering from diabetes.
 Researches have suggested that coconut helps in reducing
 the viral load of HIV.
 The organic iodine content of coconut helps in preventing
 simple
 goiter (enlarged non-toxic thyroid).
 Benefits of Coconut Oil
 Apart from being good for the skin and hair of a person,
 coconut oil
 has been found to be beneficial in case of the following
 ailments.
 Stress
 Heart Diseases
 High Cholesterol Levels
 Too Much Weight
 


  


Re: [Goanet] The Right to Convert

2008-12-19 Thread Carvalho



--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Goanet]
 To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 11:38 AM
 This article appeared in the London Chaplaincy magazine,
 Contacto.
 
 The Right to Convert:
 A basic right in a civil society
 by Selma Carvalho
 
 In the summer of 1772, the English Earl of Rochford had
 chanced upon a rumour that Goa was up for sale. He wrote to
 Robert Walpole, an English diplomat embedded in the
 Portuguese court and assigned to keep an eye on Portugal’s
 dealings in India, to investigate the veracity of this
 rumour. Goa was of interest to the colonial and local
 powers, flexing their muscle in the region. From the British
 and the French to the Marathas, the strategic port of Goa
 was worth a king’s ransom to them all. Walpole, after
 making discreet enquiries responded on the 8 of July, 1772,
 to say that far from selling Goa, Portugal intended to make
 every effort to reconcile with the natives. He writes, 
 
 “the power of the Inquisition at Goa which by the
 extension of its Jurisdiction and Severity had driven the
 Natives from a communication with Goa, is to be diminished;
 and all Encouragement is to be given to the Natives with
 respect to the quiet exercise of their Religion and in other
 respects.”
 
 It was the last, dying days of the Portuguese Inquisition
 in Goa. The Inquisition would finally be abolished in 1821
 by the “General Extraordinary and Constituent Courts of
 the Portuguese Nation.” Liberal ideas were sweeping across
 Europe and changing the way people viewed issues of equality
 and tolerance. The Church itself was changing. There was an
 underlying emphasis on enhancing one’s spirituality and
 relationship with God, rather than on mindlessly pursuing
 numbers or forcing one’s doctrine onto others.
 
 Nearly two centuries later, the Church in India, stands
 accused once again of subversively and insidiously trying to
 “harvest souls.” On November 24, 2008, one of India’s
 BJP stalwarts, Balbir Punj, wrote:
 
 “Post-Independence, the Church changed its methods. Open
 confrontation was dropped in favour of covert methods like
 inducements to target groups (the poor, illiterate
 sections). The new strategy, focused on specific areas,
 yielded a handsome harvest.”
 
 Even if we were to take this statement at face-value, that
 indeed the “Church” is involved in manipulatively luring
 people to convert, it begs the basic question of the
 sanctity of individual choice in a free society. Who is to
 say, the poor and the illiterate are incapable of making
 informed choices? We can safely presume these are grown
 individuals, who make adult decisions everyday of their
 life. They would have decided on an occupation,  the names
 of their children, who they voted for in the last election
 or what crops to grow the next season. Is it only in the
 area of faith and conviction that they must be accorded a
 secondary place in society? Are they to accede and adhere to
 some predetermined faith for eternity? 
 
 Even if the desperately poor are lured to the Church with
 bribes of bread and water, change of faith calls for a deep
 commitment. It requires one to renounce a way of life, a way
 of thinking and embrace another ideology altogether. Is it
 at all possible, that people can be made to undergo such a
 metamorphosis by emoluments of food? Surely common sense
 would dictate that once the belly was full, they would
 return to their religion of choice and comfort. It is easily
 accomplished. One can pretend to be something to the world,
 whilst be something different unto oneself. One can go to a
 Church of Christ, and still pray to a God of one’s own
 preference at home. We are, afterall, no longer living in
 the sixteenth century. The Church today has neither the
 manpower nor the inclination to rigourously police
 people’s religious beliefs and practices.
 
 Freedom of choice is a basic right that an individual must
 enjoy in any progressive society. In matters of utmost
 privacy, and religion is a private matter, the individual
 must be at liberty to determine his own course. If we deny
 him this right, we are enslaving him, bounding him and
 sentencing him to a lesser life.  
 
 Renowned writer, Khushwant Singh, wrote:
 
 “To start with, let it be understood that these days
 there are no forced conversions anywhere in the world. India
 is no exception. Those who assert that the poor, innocent
 and ignorant of India are being forced to accept
 Christianity are blatant liars. A few, very few educated and
 well-to-do men and women convert to another faith when they
 do not find solace in the faith of their ancestors.
 
 A large number converted out of gratitude. They were
 neglected, ignorant and poor. When strangers came to look
 after them, opened schools and hospitals for them, taught
 them, healed them and helped them to stand on 

[Goanet] Calling Nairobi Goans re. preservation of Nairobi South Cemetery

2008-12-19 Thread Mervyn Elsie Maciel
I've just had a request from an English historian friend of mine in Nairobi,
asking if someone in the Goan communityin Nairobi could join the Friends of
Nairobi South Cemetery Group. Here is the background to his request:

When the cemetery opened in January 1900, only a matter of six months after
the rails reached the
spot to be the future Nairobi, there were many Goans employed in the
clerical side of the Uganda
Railways. To start with, those who died were put adjacent to the Europeans,
with some very fine
headstones and monuments. As time went by, a type of segregation started,
and the Goans were
given their own rows, and eventually, a complete corner of the cemetery.
Everyone comes under our
interest irrespective of race. Many of the dead were too poor to afford a
memorial, but all have an engraved number
 to mark their burial, and we have the complete grave register to tell us
exactly who is buried where.
My interest in the Goans arises from the desire to have the current members
of the community be aware of
those pioneers, and maybe participate in some part with the recognition of
the souls buried there -some for
over 100 years The bulk of the DeSouzas, Fernandes,Mascarenhas et al, were
all employed by the railway.
There is a complete row of children, numbering about 30 souls lying there
too, and we have their names. I have a
simple form of memorial thought out, which would give their names, instead
of the bald grave number indicators. It would
be inexpensive costing maybe £2 each, but would do the job fine.
The cemetery is now 108 years old, and we have plans afoot to have the
ground gazetted as a national monument. In
collaboration with the Museums of Kenya, we hope this aim will be achieved,
thus providing this historic corner of Nairobi
with a status of dignity and interest
A worthwhile cause to honour many of our early Goans pioneers, and I
hope I could be given the contact addresses/
telephone numbers of interested Goans which I can then pass on to my friend.
His only reason for contacting me is
because, in his own words - I have tried in vain to receive a response to
telephone calls to both the
 Goan Gymkhana and Goan Institute. A
great silence prevails

I hope there will be a response to this request and perhaps even suggestions
from other ex-Kenya goanetters?
Thank you.


Mervyn Maciel


[Goanet] State of denial

2008-12-19 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:47:17 +0530
From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3859250.cms

Excerpt:

Nevertheless, if the Indian state should conduct a soul-searching, so too
should many Indians. The routine discrimination endured by Indian Muslims
and other marginalised sections is no fiction. Yet so pervasive is the
casual acceptance of this prejudice ^ or even indifference to it ^ that it
barely registers comment. At its most benign, this outlook takes on the form of 
slights and innuendos. But at its most malignant, it assumes an
uncontrollable frenzied rage.

What is also required is for political parties to make the case for an
inclusive India. That a people with multiple identities can prosper together is 
part of the founding ideal of the republic. It is time to reclaim its essence, 
[end of excerpts]

Mario responds:

Will this barrage of codswallop never end?  Once again  a far left wing 
journalist demonstrates a state of denial, while accusing everyone else.

Here we see a Rishabh Bhandari follow in the footsteps of Arundhati Roy, 
Ramachandra Guha and others in trying to deflect blame for the terrorism 
against innocent Indians from the real jihadi perpetrators, all of whom were 
recruited and trained in Pakistan, and somehow place the blame on Indians, 
using convenient euphemisms like monster in the mirror and soul-searching 
and other similar piles of verbal manure. 

A series of Indian government reports posted by Marshall unintentionally made 
my point - that, while the Muslim community is performing a step behind the 
rest of the country, the Indian government bends over backwards in its concern 
for Muslims and tries hard to uplift them.  There is strong evidence that any 
general backwardness that exists among Indian Muslims stems from their own 
culture and inability to access the opportunities available to them in India.  
Those who do take the initiative are just as well off as anyone else in India 
and many are better off.

Other than the new immigrant countries of Australia, Britain, Canada, NZ and 
the US, India is the most inclusive country for Muslims in the world - far more 
inclusive than all the so-called Muslim countries where normal Muslims, 
especially women, are subjected to unbelievable discrimination and pressure 
from religious fanatics.







Re: [Goanet] Arun Shourie on Islamic terrorism and failed Pakistani state

2008-12-19 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:22:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com

My own understanding, so far, based on my limited reading about terrorism 
psychology, and partly echoed by Selma, is that almost all of the terrorist 
recruits are common criminals, of whom there are plenty in every society. It is 
much easier to radicalize criminals, and graduate them to doing greater crimes, 
than normal people with intact innate moral sense. But I will let you know what 
I find.

Mario responds:

Santosh,

While some of what you say about the proclivity of ne'er-do-wells to be 
recruited for conducting terrorist attacks sounds valid, not a single one of 
the 19 terrorists who attacked the US on 9/11 came from common criminal 
backgrounds.  Neither did the attackers in Madrid, or Britain, some of whom 
were physicians.

Besides, the nature of laws that address criminal activity in a civilized 
society, which requires a high standard of innocence until proven guilty, and 
due process that may jeopardize national security involved in the widespread 
war on terror against the current crop of Islamic terrorists, discriminates 
against the victims of the terrorism and the target society in general, and 
places witnesses and their families in mortal jeopardy by becoming targets for 
revenge.

This is why suicidal terrorists must be treated and prosecuted fairly and 
humanely, but differently than common criminals, with special protections for 
the evidentiary information used and for the witnesses and their families.




[Goanet] VOA News - India's Tourism Industry Faces Slump in Wake of Terror Attacks

2008-12-19 Thread Ruby Goes



To the Hospitality and Entertainment Industry in Goa,


http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-12-19-voa25.cfm

Why don't these hoteliers put on a bash for locals? Maybe lunch for kids
from orphanages? High Tea for local teachers? A poolside party for Senior
Citizens? Why waste space? A little goodwill goes a long way. No?

Have a jolly season anyway! 


rubygoes



[Goanet] Goa news for December 20, 2008

2008-12-19 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Advantage Bengal - The Statesman
[2 hours ago]  19: Ranadeb Bose's third five-wicket haul of the
season restricted Goa on 95 for 5 after thetwo-time champions
posted 337 in their first innings in the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=5theme=usrsess=1id=236854cid=1281687824ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNHCDqvmu0NUiyLcjYZfVssAuscLxg

*** Bengal plays Goa in Gangulys swansong - Hindu
[Dec 17, 2008]  NEW DELHI: Sourav Gangulys final appearance in
first-class cricket would be the highlight of the Bengal-Goa
Ranji Trophy plate league match at the Karnail ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/18/stories/2008121851951800.htmcid=1280176578ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNF072yGah2D56b7RRwRPbzpywybpg

*** No restrictions, Goa will party: CM - Times of India
[Dec 18, 2008]  PANAJI: On a day of confusing and conflicting
stands by various government departments, south Goa collector GP
Naik issued an order on Thursday banning ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/No_restrictions_Goa_will_party_CM/articleshow/3859909.cmscid=1281398725ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNGIdI49_G0MvZPSrhGD29qJmVUQ5Q

*** IIJS-Signature 2009 to be Held in Goa - Jewelers Circular
Keystone Online
[3 hours ago]  The seaside resort city of Goa will serve as a
place for attendees to mix business with pleasure. The show
itself serves as a premium niche event for select ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.jckonline.com/article/CA6624287.html?desc=topstorycid=1281678276ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNHqgf5h7ZUSomUes2QivkOEe1qnfA

*** Bombay HC approves Sesa Goa-Sesa Industries amalgamation -
Business Standard
[16 hours ago]  India's largest private iron ore exporter Sesa
Goa Ltd said the High Court of Bombay at Goa has approved the
Scheme of Amalgamation of its subsidiary Sesa ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/bombay-hc-approves-sesa-goa-sesa-industries-amalgamation/13/26/51513/oncid=1281531054ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNETq8LugSUaBuoGF1OgmxMGtC2lMQ

*** Leisure: Go Goa this year end ! - CIOL
[12 hours ago]  BANGALORE, INDIA: How about celebrating the New
Year's eve on the golden beaches of Goa! This New Year's eve can
be much more than just wine and dance to ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ciol.com/SMB/News-Reports/Leisure-Go-Goa-this-year-end-!/191208113992/0/cid=1281577718ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNHfBH0bXVAorDPB5ueQuAoGgKVpow

*** Adobe and Ghent Workgroup Experts Offering Free Seminars at
GOA - What They Think
[Dec 17, 2008]  For Graphics of the Americas ( Web Site Related
Articles Google) 2009 (GOA) attendees, it's incomparable
networking and, in an announcement made today, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://members.whattheythink.com/news/newslink.cfm?id=35004cid=1281347810ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNHoiXQVuQhZ93Vy-UlKSip4uvr0_A

*** At home, in Goa? - Times of India
[8 hours ago]  She said, I have my tickets booked for Goa but
I am not sure if I will be going there. And what, if we may
ask, could bring about a change in her plans? ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Fashion_Shows/At_home_in_Goa/articleshow/3862954.cmscid=0ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNH59YN8ml5QBPLjTIGG4f8-cWIkWw

*** Our woman in Goa - Times Online
[24 minutes ago]  I don't recommend a day trekking around Old
Goa. It's an old Portuguese town with a large church - that's
all. Mapusa market is a traditional outdoor market ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/destinations/india/article5365793.ececid=0ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNEWJe713rhXrLnG5Oo08RDY6PTrTw

*** Lalu to flag off train to Goa today - Times of India
[1 hour ago]  Patna: Railway minister Lalu Prasad will flag off
the much-awaited Patna-Vasco-da-Gama (Goa) train at a function
to be held at Patna Junction on Saturday. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Patna/Lalu_to_flag_off_train_to_Goa_today/articleshow/3863919.cmscid=0ei=ijxMSZWkIYvQgAOqv-XhAgusg=AFQjCNEiMsZf_NkVtoXSn3JHzUDZFsWD3A


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


Re: [Goanet] Africa - through Goan eyes

2008-12-19 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Vivian A. DSouza wrote: 
 Poignant memories of life in Tanzania related by Mervyn, brough tears (of 
 joy) to my eyes.
 I hope Merwyn will write a book, as I am sure he has a lot more memories to 
share with us all.


Bwana D'souza,
Tony de Sa is providing us with a golden opportunity to record our experiences. 
I know you spent time 
in parts of Tanzania where there where very few Goans. People ARE interested in 
what was experienced
and I am sure you have some interesting stories to tell. Twenty years ago, 
someone told me that in the 
1950/60's there were just ten Goan families in Lindi/Mtwara. Electricity was 
provided from 6 to 9 pm. One 
year they got together, put up a hockey team and travelled to Dar, by coastal 
steamer, for a hockey tournament. 
Now that's the kind of story that I would like to hear again, in detail.  
 
 
 
The Other Mervyn wrote:
 I hope your latest contribution will encourage other Goans  who experienced
 such adventurous lives in Africa, to come up with their own stories.

 
 
Mervyn, I am with you :-) 
The memoirs could serve two purposes:
1) A permanent record of another time and place.
2) A reference for those who are interested in mining this info. I have met 
Goan authors here in
Toronto who are looking for info for their books/articles. They tell me that 
the only info they have 
access to today, is the memoirs of non-Goans.
 
 
I have enjoyed your previous memoirs here. I have also noted the new links you 
provided.
Will check them out once I start my Xmas holidays.
 
Mervyn3.0


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Re: [Goanet] Skin-deep secularism

2008-12-19 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
The reason why caste and religious views are promoted, during election time,  
is because that is what the electorate - people of Goa - want and appear to be 
most interested.  In a world of today, the issues for pre-election discussion 
should be economic growth, job creation, infrastructure building, law and 
order, public services, taxes.

One does not  have to go far to see that the above topics do not generated much 
interest even among the intelligentsia.  Did the lack of IFFI in Goa this year 
generate any discussion on Goanet about the loss of tourism etc etc?  Or was 
there a sigh of relief? 

Compare the posts on the absence of IFFI to responses on the Goanet about caste 
or religion (or lack there off).
Regards, GL



 FREDERICK NORONHA 

FN builds a case to show that 'secular' campaigners in Goa have their own 
religious and even caste biases.

It may sound provocative, but the 'secular' campaigner in Goa isn't so secular. 
Scratch a 'secular' campaigner, and you would quickly realise that below the 
skin his or her religious colours and even caste bias come out speedily.





[Goanet] Ashok Row Kavi.

2008-12-19 Thread eric pinto
We spent two years together at St.Xavier's College, the early 60's.  A Dadar 
native, he had studied at the Scottish Orphanage,  a non-aided school that 
catered to the wealthy.
 A Saraswat who spoke our language, he was very bright, and always very civil. 
His first letter to Time magazine appeared soon after he graduated, and  what 
would become a near career of protest posts in the English language press. He 
was very passionate about the Hindu cause, at a time when it was not a 
mainstrem issue: the Jan Sangh had around twenty five members elected to 
Parliament.
 He was a very vocal spokesman for gay groups and their concerns, in the 80's.
 We were friends, but I cannot confirm if he is still around. eric.





Re: [Goanet] Calling Nairobi Goans re. preservation of Nairobi South Cemetery

2008-12-19 Thread Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
How sad, that an English historian wants to honour our Goan dead in Nairobi, 
while two prominent Goan institutions there refuse to cooperate! Perhaps they 
would, if the Goan graves were segregated by caste? Just a thought...
Victor

--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Mervyn  Elsie Maciel 
mervynels.watuwasha...@googlemail.com wrote:

From: Mervyn  Elsie Maciel mervynels.watuwasha...@googlemail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Calling Nairobi Goans re. preservation of Nairobi South 
Cemetery
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 1:01 PM

I've just had a request from an English historian friend of mine in Nairobi,
asking if someone in the Goan communityin Nairobi could join the Friends
of
Nairobi South Cemetery Group. Here is the background to his request:

When the cemetery opened in January 1900, only a matter of six months
after
the rails reached the
spot to be the future Nairobi, there were many Goans employed in the
clerical side of the Uganda
Railways. To start with, those who died were put adjacent to the Europeans,
with some very fine
headstones and monuments. As time went by, a type of segregation started,
and the Goans were
given their own rows, and eventually, a complete corner of the cemetery.
Everyone comes under our
interest irrespective of race. Many of the dead were too poor to afford a
memorial, but all have an engraved number
 to mark their burial, and we have the complete grave register to tell us
exactly who is buried where.
My interest in the Goans arises from the desire to have the current members
of the community be aware of
those pioneers, and maybe participate in some part with the recognition of
the souls buried there -some for
over 100 years The bulk of the DeSouzas, Fernandes,Mascarenhas et al,
were
all employed by the railway.
There is a complete row of children, numbering about 30 souls lying there
too, and we have their names. I have a
simple form of memorial thought out, which would give their names, instead
of the bald grave number indicators. It would
be inexpensive costing maybe £2 each, but would do the job fine.
The cemetery is now 108 years old, and we have plans afoot to have the
ground gazetted as a national monument. In
collaboration with the Museums of Kenya, we hope this aim will be achieved,
thus providing this historic corner of Nairobi
with a status of dignity and interest
A worthwhile cause to honour many of our early Goans pioneers, and I
hope I could be given the contact addresses/
telephone numbers of interested Goans which I can then pass on to my friend.
His only reason for contacting me is
because, in his own words - I have tried in vain to receive a response to
telephone calls to both the
 Goan Gymkhana and Goan Institute. A
great silence prevails

I hope there will be a response to this request and perhaps even suggestions
from other ex-Kenya goanetters?
Thank you.


Mervyn Maciel


[Goanet] Meet demands accountability for police excesses

2008-12-19 Thread Albertina Almeida
Citizens' Initiatives for Communal Harmony (CICH) convened a meeting
in Panjim city, today to collectively take a stand on the police
assault on the Girls' school in Vasco city, and locate it within the
larger context of police excesses in the State. The meeting concluded
with a demand for the immediate suspension of the errant officers
pending inquiry, petitions to appropriate State and National bodies,
and a public meeting in the immediate future.



The meeting which was called at short notice was attended by around
100 people, representing a cross section of various children's rights
groups, women's rights groups, educationists, tribal rights groups,
lawyers, trade unions, groups working with migrant labour, village
action groups, Council for Social Justice and Peace, and
representatives of various religious groups.



The meeting began with a narration by the victims of the actual police
action of the invasion of their privacy, the intimidation and
disregard for their dignity, and their being branded as terrorists.
Subsequently the floor was thrown open for public debate and comment.



At the very outset Jason Keith Fernandes pointed out that this episode
could be looked at from four distinct but yet interconnected
perspectives. First, as part of the attacks on Muslims, both in Goa
and across India. The second, as a violation of the rights of women.
Third, an assault on children's rights and fourth as part of the
police excesses and terror by the state. Ranjan Solomon, of Interfaith
Dialogue for Life, added that nevertheless there needs to be a
recognition of the saffronisation of the police forces and focus on
justice for minorities. In this vein

Asif Hussain a businessman from Vasco, pointed out that a study of
trends in Goa, indicates that it has consistently been minorities, and
weaker sections of society that have no voice that have been at the
receiving end of State terror. In this context, reference was made to
the recent rounding up of migrant labour in Chimbel and Sancoale on
the flimsy pretexts of their not possessing 'Stranger cards'.   Prof.
Anita Haladi expressed a common sentiment when she regretted that
stronger exception had not been raised to the violations of the rights
of these labourers at the time it transpired. Nishta Desai of
Children's Rights in Goa, pointed out that if there is a system of
requiring students to register with the police, then surely this
should apply to all institutions in Goa, including those like the
Hotel Management and other professional institutions, the bulk of
whose students come from outside the State and have no local
referents. Also, the case was made, that such process should apply to
all, across class locations, not just for the poor. For example, the
antecedents of owners of property hailing from outside of Goa, are not
held up to scrutiny, which amounts to discrimination under law. Sabina
Martins, active in the campaign against casinos, in this context
pointed out that similarly antecedents of those visiting the casinos
in the River Mandovi are not checked.



Abdul Aziz Mulla, principal of Anjuman Islam High School Panjim,
pointed out that police have to necessarily take permission of the
principal of the institution prior to entry. This fundamental
requirement was disregarded in the instant case. This disregard holds
negative portent not only for the instant case and the rights of
Muslim citizens, but for the general public in future as well.



Reflecting on the larger context, Geraldine Fernandes, Convener of the
Ghor Ganv Rakhon Manch, pointed out that such violations have become a
common feature for village activists in various parts of Goa since at
least the last 10 months. Citizens are hauled out of their homes at
night without arrest warrants, false criminal cases are slapped
against them.  She continued by indicating that there is absolutely no
response from the state functionaries, like the Chief Minister, Home
Minister and others to whom representations are made. On the contrary,
decisions and outcomes are deferred casually stating that they are
looking into the matter. In this context reference was made to the
meeting of prominent citizens with the senior government
representatives protesting the PI Santosh Dessai's intimidation of the
villagers of Colamb, Quepem. Auda Viegas, of Bailancho Ekvott,
expressed her solidarity with the Muslim girls, and condemning the
actions of the police in violating the person and privacy of the minor
Muslim girls. Sabina Martins, of Bailancho Saad, stated that there was
a need to define terror. Measures taken by the state to deal with
terror, need to be questioned to ensure that they are democratic,
non-discriminatory and that they uphold human rights. From her hearing
of the incident, she felt that the attempt of the police was motivated
not by the need to obtain photographs but primarily to intimidate. Fr.
Maverick Fernandes of CSJP also condemned the acts of the police and
proposed various 

[Goanet] The Right to Convert

2008-12-19 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
This message is in reply to message: 4, dated: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 from: Selma
Carvalho on subject: The Right to Convert

My response: 

Selma, Right to convert is NOT a basic right in a civil society at least in
India. This reply is based on following facts: 

Article 25(1) of Constitution of India guarantees ''freedom of conscience to
every citizen, and not merely to the followers of one particular religion''.
This Article postulates that there is no fundamental right to convert
another person to one's own religion because if a person purposely
undertakes the conversion of another person to his religion, that would
impinge on the freedom of conscience guaranteed to all the citizens of the
country alike. This means there is no such thing as a fundamental right to
convert any person to one's own religion and the government can impose
certain restrictions keeping in view public order. This is the
interpretation of Supreme Court of Indian on Article 25(1) which was
misunderstood as Right to Convert. 

You could also read a debate on this issue by clicking the link provided
here below:
 
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/debating-the-right-to-convert/369524/


Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad




[Goanet] comedy with mog

2008-12-19 Thread JANE ALPHONSO
Hi guys i hope you will enjoy this. with mog from jane
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watchv=Gfm7tM6tRE4feature=related
Sir comedy part 1http://uk.youtube.com/watchv=Vm3Eztter7Ufeature=related
Sir COmedy Part 2

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NeKTqXek3iMfeature=related
 Sir Comedy part 3
http://uk.youtube.com/watchv=1fBogfSZngsfeature=related


Sir comedy part 4
http://uk.youtube.com/watchv=5sG1hFXrtofeature=related
Sir comedy part 5
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AIeWyN07W60feature=related
Sir comedy part 6
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XOY3HYJWWL0feature=related

Mummy comedy part 1http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGEtffu3Z0feature=related
Mummy comedy part 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ntM5isrtNK8feature=related 
Mummy comedy part 3
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LqjwfCsW8feature=related Mummy comedy part 
5http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k-6Fe4bIT1Mfeature=related
Mummy comedy part 6


[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (20Dec08)

2008-12-19 Thread alexyz fernandes
***  With the CM at Azad Maidan for Liberation Day festivities  ***

Diggu Kaka...Daddy said Our Family will celebrate Liberation Day...Only wen 
Goa is Liberated from Delhi


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit:   www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by  www.goasudharop.org




[Goanet] Poilem Konknni (Romi Lipi) Sahitya ani Sonvskruti Sommelon

2008-12-19 Thread Vincy Quadros
Mogall ixttamno,

AMONTRONN

Poilem Konknni (Romi Lipi) Sahitya ani Sonvskruti Sommelon
20 ani 21 December 2008
Pai Tiatrist Joao Agostinho Fernandes Nagar
Ravindra Bhavan
Moddganv Goy.

Hea don disanchea sommelonak tumkam Amontronn potr patthoilam.  Tori chukon 
pavonastana urlam zalear hem amontronn mhunn manun ghenvchem.

Chuk zalea asot zalear adim fuddem mafi magtam.

Borem magon

Vincy Quadros
Sommelon Vavurpi Odheokx


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[Goanet] Talking photos: Identify these two bridges

2008-12-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking photos: Identify these two bridges
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3121180980/sizes/l/

=
A hint.
Because one is very sick, I mean very weak, the other one is now opened 
exclusively for heavy vehicle traffic
=

It's in Goa.
but not in Salcette, Canacona, Sanguem, Quepem, Ponda, Pernnem, Satati or 
Bicholim

joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/   
For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa   
In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc





[Goanet] An Unknown Freedom Fighter

2008-12-19 Thread Bernado Colaco
'But for the oppressed freedom'? Strange statement from Fr. Ivo, and truly 
paradoxical in the age where the religion that he preaches is under the threat 
of fundamentalists and terrorists in a 'liberated' Goa.

BC

He died suddenly at the tender age of 51 years, after a brief illness, 
on August 25 of 1958. While he was ill, he heard the National Anthem on 
August 2 and rose from his death-bed to salute the Indian National Flag on 
Dadra's Liberation Day. Then he asked that a handful of earth of his native 
village of Chandor, which he had fetched, be put in his grave, and breathed 
his last. He gave one rupee from below his pillow to his wife for his 
funeral rites. He died poor without leaving one pie. He devoted himself for 
the uplift of the masses. We find these words on his grave:

Life for him was a mission,/His daily lot a martyrdom,/Honours and wealth 
he sought not,/But for the oppressed freedom.






[Goanet] Foreign-funded charity

2008-12-19 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
Few days back one of the Goanet member had I asked me about actual source of
information on foreign funding / foreign donations received by various NGOs
in India including churches. 

The required information is available on the website of the Union Home
Ministry under Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act (FCRA). 

To read more on this issue click the link provided and one will get
readymade information on foreign donations received by various NGOs
including Churches. 

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/conversations-with-foreignfunded-charity/3
72252/


Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad




[Goanet] Settling old Scores

2008-12-19 Thread pratap naik
The following article by Ashok R. Kavi describes in detail the language 
agitation in Goa in 1987 and other important related issues. On 20 December 
1986 Floriano Vaz was shot dead during the language agitation in Goa. He became 
the first martyr of Konknni.  On 21st December 2006 six more were killed.  Many 
people may not be aware of the details of their death. This article will 
enlighten them with facts. The Saraswat group which dominated and manipulated 
then continues to resist to amend the Official Language Act now and to give 
equal status to Konknni written in Roman script. They are making use of a few 
priests and Catholic lay persons who mainly use Roman script but oppose it the 
official recognition! Goa is a land of paradox.  After 22 years on the same day 
of Floriano Vaz's death anniversary, Dalgado Konknni Akademi organises two days 
First Konknni Conference (Roman Script) at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao.  Let us 
hope that this conference will
 achieve its main objective, namely to obtain the official status to Konknni in 
Roman script in the Goa Official Language Act 1987.
Dr. Pratap Naik, S.J.
 
SETTLING OLD SCORES
By Ashok Row Kavi was first published in THE WEEK issue of January 18-24. 1987
THE TWO chants, one childish and the other self-evident, rise louder and louder 
and fall rhythmically with the swaying fronds of coconut palms in Goa's verdant 
plains. As they fall on the territory's sun-scorched beaches, submerging the 
roar of the waves, an uncomfortable tension grips the mind of the largely 
peaceful inhabitants.
Goa's soporific calm has been shattered beyond repair. A language, which held 
the Goans in good stead during the Portuguese rule, has ironically divided the 
little Union territory now. Yet, little has changed. The paper stars of 
Bethlehem twinkle quietly and chains of small colourful bulbs still glow though 
Christmas is past and the tulsis are decorated with kumkum in the dewy 
mornings. Trouble had been brewing for long, but the cauldron boiled over only 
six months ago, when the lone MLA of Goa Congress, Luizinho Faleiro introduced 
in the assembly a mischievous bill urging the government of Pratapsingh Rane to 
make Konkani the sole official language of Goa. The bill, badly worded and 
plainly provocative, was a gauntlet thrown at the Marathi protagonists in the 
Congress (I) and the
Maharashtravadi Gomantak Party (MGP) who were slowly retreating from the 
position that Marathi should be the sole official language of Goa. [Luizinho] 
Faleiro, and his party headed by Dr Wilfred D'Souza were in fact giving hard 
choices to the Congress(I) which had been trying to equivocate. But Rane 
instead of deflecting the attack, invited trouble with a reflex action. Which 
Konkani do you want - the Pernem variety, the Salcete variety or the Cuncolim 
variety? he asked in the legislature, referring contemptuously to the 
variations in the language found in different parts of Goa. The bill was 
dismissed, but the whole incident hurt the Konkani sentiments. Party loyalties 
were given the go-by and the Congress(I) split right down the middle. There 
were now only two kinds of people in Goa, as desired by scheming Goa Congress 
leaders: those who wanted Konkani, mainly the Catholics and the Gowda Saraswat 
Brahmins, and the Marathas who considered Konkani just
 a dialect of Marathi. The Goa Congress, supported mainly by the Catholics, and 
the Konkani Porjecho Awaz (KPA), claiming to represent all Konkani interests 
including the Gowda Saraswats as well as Christians, then decided to harass the 
Maratha- dominated Congress(I). When the territory began preparing for the 
December 19 silver jubilee celebrations of its liberation, the two 
organisations suddenly demanded statehood for Goa and renewed its demand for 
Konkani as the sole official language with added vigour.
On December 18 [1987], the KPA held a massive rally at Panaji's Azad Maidan and 
demanded that Rane resign immediately. Luizinho Faleiro asked the people to 
start a civil disobedience movement by not paying taxes, bus fares, and ferry 
charges to bring this anti-people government down. Faleiro also said the 
deadline given to the government was over and the KPA leaders would not be 
responsible if anything happened tomorrow, the Liberation Day. Surely enough, 
the next day, the whole of south Goa, comprising Salcete, Sanguem and Canacona 
burst into violence. It was too well organised to be called spontaneous, said 
Collector Sinha. Roads had been blocked the previous night with boulders and 
uprooted trees (more than a thousand trees had been cut with electric saws), 
telephone and electric poles, billboards and even cars dragged out during the 
night. A culvert at Vernem was damaged by dynamite. Barrels of bitumen were 
rolled into the roads and set afire.
 Seven-inch nails welded on steel plates were placed on roads to puncture 
tyres. Water pipelines were blasted between Mungal and Margao.
When asked how