[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-09 Thread conman

No, I don't understand why the app has problems loading django at some
specific times of the day...

Today everything seems normal but I don't have a good feeling if the
source of the error is not clear and so it may still exist.

Maybe someone of google can shed some light into that??

Regards,
Constantin

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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-09 Thread Thomas Wittek

On Feb 8, 11:09 am, Thomas Wittek  wrote:
> On Feb 8, 9:19 am, conman 
> wrote:
>
> > Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?
>
> I have a site with appengine monkey and Pylons.
> I got that error quite often.

Update:
I switched over to webapp.py and I don't have these problems anymore
now.
Not an option for people who invested a lot in a certain framework,
though.

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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-09 Thread Thomas Wittek

On Feb 8, 9:19 am, conman 
wrote:
> Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?

I have a site with appengine monkey and Pylons.
I got that error quite often.

To me it looks like a fresh start of Pylons (a lot of imports etc)
just takes more time than allowed.
Unfortunately I don't see what you can do here besides
a) not using Pylons (sad)
b) extend the deadline (won't happen, I guess)
c) throw more resources at it (won't happen either, I guess)

As I have a rather small app I'll probably try to port it  to
something lighter (webapp.py).
For people who invested a lot of time in their app running on a big
framework that wouldn't be an option really.

Regards
--
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread Devel63

We are using Django v0.96, which is "included" with GAE (so, not the
Patch, but not webapp either).

Nick Winter's comment could be right ... maybe it's not Django, but
Django just has a lot of initialization code.  That being said, here's
an interesting and common log message that seems to show things
hanging in Django initialization (maybe Google got a bad Django binary
on some of its servers and they need to clear it out?).

   1.
  02-08 12:03PM 01.519 /hint/request 500 9025ms 672ms-cpu 1kb
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/
2009011913 Firefox/3.0.6,gzip(gfe)
  See details
   2.
  E 02-08 12:03PM 10.534

  :
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/base/data/home/apps/judysapps/5.331236991686126139/
main.py", line 64, in 
  main()
File "/base/data/home/apps/judysapps/5.331236991686126139/
main.py", line 61, in main
  util.run_wsgi_app(application)
File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/
util.py", line 76, in run_wsgi_app
  result = application(env, _start_response)
File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/django/core/handlers/
wsgi.py", line 189, in __call__
  response = self.get_response(request)
File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/django/core/handlers/
base.py", line 110, in get_response
  from django.views import debug
File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/django/views/debug.py", line
3, in 
  from django.utils.html import escape
File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/django/utils/html.py", line
1, in 
  "HTML utilities suitable for global use."





On Feb 8, 1:19 am, conman 
wrote:
> Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?
>
> On 8 Feb., 04:48, Devel63  wrote:
>
> > We see the same thing, and just converted to Django.  Sounds like it
> > may be related to Django.
>
> > On Feb 7, 11:09 am, johnP  wrote:
>
> > > No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
> > > logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
> > > while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
> > > Maybe it'll go away?
>
> > > Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
> > > to this on Monday.  :)
>
> > > johnP
>
> > > On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
> > > > exceeded errors which result from
> > > > request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.
>
> > > > But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
> > > > this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
> > > > What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?
>
> > > > Constantin
>
> > > > On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP  wrote:
>
> > > > > I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
> > > > > deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
> > > > > increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
> > > > > requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
> > > > > so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
> > > > > exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?
>
> > > > > johnP
>
> > > > > On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman 
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > It's happening again!!
>
> > > > > > Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
> > > > > > error page!!!
>
> > > > > > The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
> > > > > > (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
> > > > > > again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!
>
> > > > > > Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
> > > > > > problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> > > > > > What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
> > > > > > google will look into that?
>
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Constantin
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread Nick Winter

I'm seeing this, too: large number of DeadlineExceededErrors and other
errors at the same times of the day, for the past several days.

I'm not sure it's related to Django or anything else. We are using
Django and pyamf, and the errors will happen anywhere. I think it's
just the Django and pyamf have a lot of initialize code to go through,
so the errors that happen randomly often happen in there. Does that
make sense?
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread conman

And why occurres the error only at some time of the day?

On 8 Feb., 18:21, Mike Wesner  wrote:
> I think our app was running into this issue also.
>
> We are using our own django and parts of the appengine helper patch.
> I would see 500 errors, deadlineexceeded but the exception is thrown
> in the django, helper or pyamf (in our case we use pyamf to process
> the requests from a flex/flash client) code which was even before any
> datastore operations or much else ran.
>
> The question is.  How do you set it up so that django/helper are
> cached imports?
>
> If you import things in main.py (where our main method is) does that
> keep things in memory?
>
> The docs seem to be pretty light on details about how to do this.
>
> -Mike
>
> On Feb 8, 3:19 am, conman 
> wrote:
>
> > Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?
>
> > On 8 Feb., 04:48, Devel63  wrote:
>
> > > We see the same thing, and just converted to Django.  Sounds like it
> > > may be related to Django.
>
> > > On Feb 7, 11:09 am, johnP  wrote:
>
> > > > No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
> > > > logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
> > > > while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
> > > > Maybe it'll go away?
>
> > > > Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
> > > > to this on Monday.  :)
>
> > > > johnP
>
> > > > On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
> > > > > exceeded errors which result from
> > > > > request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.
>
> > > > > But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
> > > > > this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
> > > > > What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?
>
> > > > > Constantin
>
> > > > > On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP  wrote:
>
> > > > > > I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
> > > > > > deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a 
> > > > > > large
> > > > > > increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
> > > > > > requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe 
> > > > > > doing
> > > > > > so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
> > > > > > exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?
>
> > > > > > johnP
>
> > > > > > On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman 
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > It's happening again!!
>
> > > > > > > Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
> > > > > > > error page!!!
>
> > > > > > > The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
> > > > > > > (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is 
> > > > > > > broken
> > > > > > > again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!
>
> > > > > > > Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact 
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> > > > > > > What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone 
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > google will look into that?
>
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Constantin
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread Mike Wesner

I think our app was running into this issue also.

We are using our own django and parts of the appengine helper patch.
I would see 500 errors, deadlineexceeded but the exception is thrown
in the django, helper or pyamf (in our case we use pyamf to process
the requests from a flex/flash client) code which was even before any
datastore operations or much else ran.

The question is.  How do you set it up so that django/helper are
cached imports?

If you import things in main.py (where our main method is) does that
keep things in memory?

The docs seem to be pretty light on details about how to do this.

-Mike


On Feb 8, 3:19 am, conman 
wrote:
> Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?
>
> On 8 Feb., 04:48, Devel63  wrote:
>
> > We see the same thing, and just converted to Django.  Sounds like it
> > may be related to Django.
>
> > On Feb 7, 11:09 am, johnP  wrote:
>
> > > No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
> > > logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
> > > while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
> > > Maybe it'll go away?
>
> > > Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
> > > to this on Monday.  :)
>
> > > johnP
>
> > > On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
> > > > exceeded errors which result from
> > > > request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.
>
> > > > But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
> > > > this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
> > > > What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?
>
> > > > Constantin
>
> > > > On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP  wrote:
>
> > > > > I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
> > > > > deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
> > > > > increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
> > > > > requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
> > > > > so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
> > > > > exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?
>
> > > > > johnP
>
> > > > > On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman 
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > It's happening again!!
>
> > > > > > Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
> > > > > > error page!!!
>
> > > > > > The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
> > > > > > (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
> > > > > > again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!
>
> > > > > > Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
> > > > > > problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> > > > > > What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
> > > > > > google will look into that?
>
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Constantin
>
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread conman

Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?


On 8 Feb., 04:48, Devel63  wrote:
> We see the same thing, and just converted to Django.  Sounds like it
> may be related to Django.
>
> On Feb 7, 11:09 am, johnP  wrote:
>
> > No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
> > logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
> > while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
> > Maybe it'll go away?
>
> > Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
> > to this on Monday.  :)
>
> > johnP
>
> > On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
> > > exceeded errors which result from
> > > request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.
>
> > > But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
> > > this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
> > > What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?
>
> > > Constantin
>
> > > On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP  wrote:
>
> > > > I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
> > > > deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
> > > > increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
> > > > requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
> > > > so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
> > > > exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?
>
> > > > johnP
>
> > > > On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > It's happening again!!
>
> > > > > Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
> > > > > error page!!!
>
> > > > > The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
> > > > > (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
> > > > > again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!
>
> > > > > Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
> > > > > problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> > > > > What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
> > > > > google will look into that?
>
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Constantin
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-07 Thread Devel63

We see the same thing, and just converted to Django.  Sounds like it
may be related to Django.

On Feb 7, 11:09 am, johnP  wrote:
> No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
> logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
> while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
> Maybe it'll go away?
>
> Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
> to this on Monday.  :)
>
> johnP
>
> On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman 
> wrote:
>
> > Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
> > exceeded errors which result from
> > request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.
>
> > But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
> > this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
> > What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?
>
> > Constantin
>
> > On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP  wrote:
>
> > > I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
> > > deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
> > > increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
> > > requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
> > > so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
> > > exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?
>
> > > johnP
>
> > > On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > It's happening again!!
>
> > > > Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
> > > > error page!!!
>
> > > > The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
> > > > (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
> > > > again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!
>
> > > > Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
> > > > problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> > > > What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
> > > > google will look into that?
>
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Constantin
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-07 Thread Xavier Mathews

Post it in the issue tracker.

On 02/07/2009, johnP  wrote:
>
> No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
> logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
> while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
> Maybe it'll go away?
>
> Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
> to this on Monday.  :)
>
> johnP
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman 
> wrote:
>> Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
>> exceeded errors which result from
>> request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.
>>
>> But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
>> this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
>> What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?
>>
>> Constantin
>>
>> On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP  wrote:
>>
>> > I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
>> > deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
>> > increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
>> > requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
>> > so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
>> > exceeded errors on very simple pages.Sound possible?
>>
>> > johnP
>>
>> > On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > It's happening again!!
>>
>> > > Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
>> > > error page!!!
>>
>> > > The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
>> > > (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
>> > > again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!
>>
>> > > Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
>> > > problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>>
>> > > What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
>> > > google will look into that?
>>
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Constantin
> >
>


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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-07 Thread johnP

No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
Maybe it'll go away?

Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
to this on Monday.  :)

johnP



On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman 
wrote:
> Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
> exceeded errors which result from
> request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.
>
> But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
> this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
> What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?
>
> Constantin
>
> On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP  wrote:
>
> > I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
> > deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
> > increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
> > requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
> > so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
> > exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?
>
> > johnP
>
> > On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman 
> > wrote:
>
> > > It's happening again!!
>
> > > Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
> > > error page!!!
>
> > > The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
> > > (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
> > > again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!
>
> > > Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
> > > problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> > > What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
> > > google will look into that?
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Constantin
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-07 Thread conman

Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
exceeded errors which result from
request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.

But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?

Constantin

On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP  wrote:
> I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
> deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
> increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
> requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
> so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
> exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?
>
> johnP
>
> On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman 
> wrote:
>
> > It's happening again!!
>
> > Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
> > error page!!!
>
> > The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
> > (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
> > again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!
>
> > Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
> > problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> > What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
> > google will look into that?
>
> > Regards,
> > Constantin
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-07 Thread johnP

I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
exceeded errors on very simple pages.Sound possible?

johnP


On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman 
wrote:
> It's happening again!!
>
> Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
> error page!!!
>
> The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
> (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
> again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!
>
> Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
> problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
> google will look into that?
>
> Regards,
> Constantin
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