Re: [Hampshire] Correction - was:Re: [OT] Southampton Hackerspace Survey
On Sunday 09 September 2012 16:16:00 Tony Whitmore wrote: > On 09/09/12 14:18, hants...@googlemail.com wrote: > > On Sunday 09 September 2012 12:50:35 Benjie Gillam wrote: > >> As regards Surrey and Hampshire Hackspace - like Southackton they don't > >> yet have an actual hackspace, they're a group of hackers/makers who meet > >> frequently > > > > There has been no mention of anything to suggest that you are already > > meeting, let alone when and where, which are surely necessary if you are > > to attract new members. SHH is already doing a small amount of hacking, > > although that is necessarily limited by the lack of a permanent home. > > > > It also is trying to build up its membership, which you clearly are not > > yet doing. So it is more advanced than you are in the process of setting > > up. > > The Southackton website shows that it has been around for years and is > fairly active: > > "We are currently holding two meetings a month at the Arthouse Cafe in > Southampton on the 1st Wednesday and 3rd Tuesay [sic] of the month" > > The earliest blog post on their website is from May 2009: > > http://southackton.org.uk/2009/05/20/a-hackerspace-in-southampton/ > > The flickr stream shows quite a few people getting involved in making > stuff: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/42005974@N02/3874580279/in/pool-1245172@N22/ Point taken. But one would need to know that it existed surely to look at its website? So I stand by the assertion that they have not made active efforts to increase their membership. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Correction - was:Re: [OT] Southampton Hackerspace Survey
On Sunday 09 September 2012 15:51:22 Dave Walker wrote: > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > > Thanks, Benjie for your reply. > > > > On Sunday 09 September 2012 12:50:35 Benjie Gillam wrote: > > > As regards Surrey and Hampshire Hackspace - like Southackton they don't > > > > yet > > > > > have an actual hackspace, they're a group of hackers/makers who meet > > > frequently > > > > There has been no mention of anything to suggest that you are already > > meeting, > > let alone when and where, which are surely necessary if you are to > > attract new members. SHH is already doing a small amount of hacking, > > although that is necessarily limited by the lack of a permanent home. > > > > It also is trying to build up its membership, which you clearly are not > > yet doing. So it is more advanced than you are in the process of setting > > up. > > > > Lisi > Having not looked at hantslug list for some time, and returning to see the > traditional negativity this list provides; I remember exactly why I stopped > following it. It seems more than somewhat unfair to blame HantsLUG for what you perceive as my negativity. > Why can't there be a little more constructive help? Erm... I filled in his survey and answered the questions as accurately and as helpfully as I could. I protested because Benjie seemed to me to be aiming at poaching members from another fledgeling group. It has regular meetings in a private room and is actively seeking permanent premises. The omission of Reading seems to have been a genuine error, but he still omitted it - to his advantage. Any errors I made are mine alone and in no way the fault of HantsLUG. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Correction - was:Re: [OT] Southampton Hackerspace Survey
Thanks, Benjie for your reply. On Sunday 09 September 2012 12:50:35 Benjie Gillam wrote: > As regards Surrey and Hampshire Hackspace - like Southackton they don't yet > have an actual hackspace, they're a group of hackers/makers who meet > frequently There has been no mention of anything to suggest that you are already meeting, let alone when and where, which are surely necessary if you are to attract new members. SHH is already doing a small amount of hacking, although that is necessarily limited by the lack of a permanent home. It also is trying to build up its membership, which you clearly are not yet doing. So it is more advanced than you are in the process of setting up. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Correction - was:Re: [OT] Southampton Hackerspace Survey
On Sunday 09 September 2012 10:22:16 Benjie Gillam wrote: > Apologies for the cross-post but I'm aware that there are a number of > people on this list who are into hacking/making/tinkering. > > We're trying to get a Southampton Hacker/Makerspace off the ground, so > we're about to start talks with Southampton University regarding potential > early support. If you like making, modding or tinkering (be that software, > hardware, textiles, Art, ...), could you take between 20 seconds and 3 > minutes out to fill in our survey? Only the first 2 questions are required. > > http://southackton.org.uk/2012/09/07/southackton-survey-2012/ > > If you know anyone else who would be interested, please forward the survey > on to them! > > The post above links to the survey, it also has a map showing the locations > of the nearest hackerspaces, confirming that a Southampton hackerspace > could be great for everyone in the surrounding area - not just people > living in Southampton! The post also contains Wikipedia's definition of a > hackerspace, in case you're not familiar with the term. > > Thanks, and sorry for the interruption, > > Benjie. This sounded an interesting project, so I looked at the survey. Unfortunately it starts with misinformation. It claims that the nearest hackspaces are in Bristol and London. This is simply not true. There is a flourishing hackspace in Reading and a very healthy, though as yet homeless, new hackspace specifically called "Surrey **and Hampshire** Hackspace" (my stars). This is currently meeting in Ash Vale, near Farnborough. And there may well be others of which I am unaware. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!
On Wednesday 29 August 2012 21:07:39 Imran Chaudhry wrote: > On 29 August 2012 09:09, Victor Churchill wrote: > > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > > Just FYI, I have seen several people with this URL in sigs but the www > address does not resolve. > > But http://hantslug.org.uk redirects to the wiki site. http://www.hants.lug.org.uk goes straight there. (Trial and error!) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!
On Wednesday 29 August 2012 09:09:58 Victor Churchill wrote: > I'll aim to make it for Saturday 3 October but I rarely manage the other > non-Soton meets. According to the wiki, that meeting is at Southampton, as are the November and December meetings. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Netbook batteries
On Tuesday 31 July 2012 13:40:32 Paul Tansom wrote: > I'm assuming they aren't as good, but can they be that bad > to justify the price of an official one? (Actually official ones seem to be > thin on the ground so it seems likely to be a 3rd party anyway.). > > Does anyone have any experience / horror stories / good revies / etc.? Yes, I got a horror for my Acer Aspire One. If I remember, I'll show it to you. A quite horrific waste of £40. It came from somewhere in the Far East, and the internal connections do not even meet. Desmond suggested that it might be worth prising the thing open and soldering the connections together. I cut my losses, but keep it as an object lesson on the side-effects of parsimony!! Branded batteries for me from now on. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Citrix
On Friday 20 July 2012 12:05:20 Rob Malpass wrote: > > And I have found quoting to be very useful. It concentrates people's > > minds wonderfully! > > Thanks Lisi. I'm 99% sure it won't come to that. No - it rarely does. But it is useful to know what arrows one has at one's disposal!! And I did once use it to great effect. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Citrix
On Friday 20 July 2012 10:39:19 Full Circle Podcast wrote: > Lisi: couldn't remember which Act precisely (hence 'disability rights > legislation' in lower case), but that would be the one. No, I realise that. My email wws aimed rather at Rob, who was being advised to quote it. As someone with sight problems he probably knew that already, but it seemed worth telling him. > Not that I expect Rob will need to quote from it, since the merest hint of > industrial tribunal tends to kick the management's backside into action, > speaking as former member of said management. This is the sort of > technology thing that should override standard IT policy as a matter of > course, anyway. In addition to the threat of tribunals, there is a straighforward case to be answered in the courts, where, if they refused to help, he could sue them; and where the only acceptable defence is that what was being asked was too much for the defendant to be reasonably able to do. The RNIB did publish a standard letter to be used for complaints under the Disabilty Discrimination Act. It seems likely that they now do one under the Equality Act, but I do not know for sure. And I have found quoting to be very useful. It concentrates people's minds wonderfully! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Spinning rust
On Friday 20 July 2012 09:35:06 Leszek Kobiernicki 1 wrote: > Novatech once sold us 150 ECS motherboard-based boxes, quite a number of > which had a faulty 2nd channel, so I ended up having to be creative with > getting all the drives connected .. ( ECS is a cheap & cheerful copy of > MSI ) If they were faulty, could you not just get them replaced under the guarantee? > I heard someone bought a Win_7 box from them, who when he asked how to > get familiar with it ( he was used to XP ), got the brush-off, in very > short order - they refused to help him, in any way That does no chime with my experience at all. I have always found them very ready to help and very helpful. They have not even blanched at the L word. > To circumvent this deadlock, I'm going to help him migrate to a Linux > OS, with help/support from/through our Ports LUG Far be it from me to dissuade anyone from installing Linux for someone else, but why not give him the help he wants with Windows 7 and then install Linux as dual boot? It seems a bit of a pity to blow away something for which he has paid good money - and Novatech overtly charges for Windows. > No need to leave anyone out in the cold, like the box-shifters seem to > like to do ! In my experience, and I have bought a lot from them over the years, Novatech does not leave people out in the cold. I would be interested to know what had happened to get your acquaintance into this situation. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Citrix
On Thursday 19 July 2012 10:46:48 Full Circle Podcast wrote: > a gentle reminder > about disability rights legislation around the coffee machine I assume you know (and apologise for mentioning it if you do) that the Disability Act 2000 has been superseded by the Equality Act 2010? Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] My 2p on the GUI 'Wars'
On Wednesday 04 July 2012 18:14:08 Imran Chaudhry wrote: > Log-in without password I found a hassle with Debian. I set this up regularly for my husband, my granddaughter and myself. I have never had a problem. (kdm, kdm-trinity, gdm with LXDE. also Lubuntu, but I don't remember whether it was there by default or I set it.) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Unity on Ubuntu 12.04 v. old Gnome/KDE on 10.04.x
On Monday 02 July 2012 01:49:29 Leszek Kobiernicki 1 wrote: > We're still all adults here, I think ? I wouldn't count on it! Seriously, I hope that there are some who have no yet reached adulthood. Catch 'em young and all the rest of it. And we perhaps should set a good example? There was that enthusiastic and knowledgeable young man who came to the PLUG stand at the Havant Green Fair, would love to come to meetings (when they are no longer in a pub!!) and hopefully has subscribed to PLUG, and I would be surprised if he has entered his teens. I am sure that he is not unique. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Unity on Ubuntu 12.04 v. old Gnome/KDE on 10.04.x
On Sunday 01 July 2012 20:22:01 Tony Wood wrote: > To each his own. Quite!! :-) And I will defend to the death my right to dislike KDE 4 - and your (3rd person not second person) right to like it, so long as you leave me alone! ;-) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Raspberry Pi
On Saturday 30 June 2012 17:59:00 Jonathan Hudson wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:21:59 +0100, David Anderson wrote: > >My Raspberry Pi is supposed to be arriving next week. Has anyone tried > >one, or got one in use? > Had one for nearly two months now. Fun bit of kit. Running Arch (and > sometimes my weather station). Had it been a bit more expensive and had > twice the RAM, it would have been really impressive. It would have been really impressive, but it would have negated the original purpose. It appears to me to be a remarkable achievement in terms both of price and of design, but even more of concept. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Unity on Ubuntu 12.04 v. old Gnome/KDE on 10.04.x
On Saturday 30 June 2012 11:37:06 Alan Pope wrote: > I hear Debian is quite nice :) I never expected to hear you say that! ;-) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Books for free
On Tuesday 26 June 2012 16:54:13 Alan Pope wrote: > On 26/06/12 16:37, Alan Pope wrote: > > https://twitter.com/popey/status/217622611264417792/photo/1 > > These are being donated to the Surrey & Hants Hackspace.. > > Sorry to those others who also mailed.. And sorry for rushing to answer, so that I was reasonably fast, without first reading the rest of the thread. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Yes, please! was Re: Books for free
On Tuesday 26 June 2012 16:37:33 Alan Pope wrote: > Larger image: > https://twitter.com/popey/status/217622611264417792/photo/1/large > > I no longer want ^^ this pile of books. If someone would like to take > them all away I would be very happy. Hello, Popey :-) If it is not too late, may I grab them for a friend? He is 27, unemployed, laid up with a gammy knee and learning Linux so fast that it is frightening! It seems unlikely that he has many books and I am sure that he would love them. Thanks! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Support for touchscreens
On Thursday 21 June 2012 11:01:50 Alan Pope wrote: > On 21/06/12 10:54, Kevin Safford wrote: > > Can anyone with experience in this area offer advice on hardware > > and best distro - or indeed an alternative approach? > > Gut reaction says "iPad". :S :-) But a (much) bigger screen with large display items is better for those who are visually challenged, as are many of those with Alzheimers, because many of them are old. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] ISP level of tech support
On Friday 22 June 2012 10:43:44 Brad Rogers wrote: > If BT attend and no fault is found, > it's a minimum of £80. Over £300 apparently last time I had to crawl around on the floor plugging routers and cat5e into almost inaccessible sockets. But I don't know, of course, whether it was a more or less idle threat. Incidentally, Zen told me that the reason they can lean on BT and get rapid resolution is because BT knows Zen eliminates other, internal, problems before involving BT. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] ISP level of tech support
On Thursday 21 June 2012 22:55:59 Andy Smith wrote: > So if someone were to say to me, > > "I know I have a problematic phone line and need an ISP that's > going to go to fight for me with BT instead of one that will > just do the equivalent of a shoulder shrug and pass the buck > after having taken my money." [snip] > then I probably would not recommend Zen particularly. I have found Zen absolutely marvellous in this respect. In fact, I have found Zen's support marvellous over the years. But maybe my expectations are lower. I have helped many people with problems with TalkTalk and other large, cheap, ISPs. If, after that lot, I have occasion to contact Zen, I am profoundly grateful for what I get. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] ISP level of tech support
On Thursday 21 June 2012 18:32:27 Rob Malpass wrote: > When I asked him about this > he said Zen didn't support the router (even though they supplied it!) Zen sells routers, but does not "supply" them in the same sense as e.g. Sky does. Though I would agree that it does not sound as tho' the chap you spoke to was pulling all the stops out. I would smart a little if that had happened to me! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law
On Sunday 27 May 2012 12:20:59 Jacqui Caren wrote: > Yuo Tools-> Page info then security to view cookeis. > or select the Permissions tab to modify the cookie acceptance permissions > for the site. It was page info I was failing to find - I was lookin under preferences. Thanks, Jacqui. :-) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law
On Sunday 27 May 2012 12:01:54 john lewis wrote: > In opera it is > > Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Cookies > Manage Cookies > > I imagine FF does something similar. I can't find it anywhere. :-( Perhaps I am being blind, but I still can't find it. Hence my asking how. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law
On Sunday 27 May 2012 09:27:29 Brad Rogers wrote: > FF, in common with all the browsers > I've ever used, allow you to view the cookies via their settings pages. How? Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law
On Friday 25 May 2012 22:26:16 Brad Rogers wrote: > Many sites will. It can be a painful experience though. Having to > enter your name and address *every* time you order something from a > supplier is just one example. I don't order from Which?. I just read the site. And now it is impossible to look at the site without accepting cookies. I still have them blocked in Konqueror, of course. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law
On Friday 25 May 2012 21:47:51 Tony Whitmore wrote: > You need to explicitly tell users what cookies you set, what they are > used for and allow them to opt out of having them set. I've seen a > number of companies and organisations changing their website to reflect > these requirements too. The Which? site gives no option to say no, and yet browse the site. You can click yes, and continue, or shut the browser down. Some giving the punter the choice!! The site does in fact work fine without cookies because I have yet to accept any from them. The policy for that site, as I have it set in Konqueror, is reject. And I have used it for years now. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Netbooks
On Tuesday 24 April 2012 12:12:25 Full Circle Podcast wrote: > The Acer Aspires are also good. Yes, I have an Acer Aspire One with which I am very pleased. I am starting to find the screen too small for me, but the clarity is excellent, and I have had it running for (temporary) use as desktop by connecting it to monitor, keyboard etc. I had not mentioned it because, by the standards of most of the people on this list, it is rather long in the tooth. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Old Macs
On Monday 23 April 2012 12:37:39 hants...@googlemail.com wrote: > maybe a case or two Wake up, Lisi! I obviously need Peter's help. He is actually going to be at home for a resonable chunk of May, so it should be fixable. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Old Macs
On Monday 23 April 2012 11:49:03 Paul Tansom wrote: > I do have some > parts that I'll let you have though, CDROM drives if they are of any use, > maybe a case or two - Thanks, Paul. :-) > oh, and I still have those two keyboards for you!!! And I still have that BBC box for you. Perhaps we should meet some time!! Getting to you from here by public transport is tricky, so I would need Peter's help to get over there. But Havant is easily accessible and I think that you sometimes go there? Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Old Macs
On Sunday 22 April 2012 17:50:33 Paul Tansom wrote: > Has anyone got any interest in some old Apple Macs? [snip] > I'm as yet not > completely decided about ditching all of them and/or eBaying some (not > entirely sure how/if they go), but thought if anyone had an interest in > something it may help me along the way to creating some space :) Two of us are involved in trying to get old computers used rather than binned via Havant Transitions. This can either be reuse of the machine they were about to bin because it couldn't run Windows 8, or supplying a computer that is a land-fill rescue, for a nominal fee, to people, both who are on low incomes and who are not likely to want to do more than email, browse, possibly type letters. Would yours be suitable? I am pretty ignorant about Apple Macs; though if you are getting rid of them they are probably _very_ ancient! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Meeting Talks
On Tuesday 10 April 2012 21:20:46 James Bensley wrote: > Ultimately where I'd like to go with his is if the talker where happy > to, record the talks and host them on line, to form a community > lectures page for the wiki, with an archive of the talks. There is already an archive of the talks. Here is the URL for you James: http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/TechTalks Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] HantsLUG Meetings Question
On Tuesday 10 April 2012 22:43:34 Tim Brocklehurst wrote: > In the case of the LUG, I would advise that we seek further advice, from > someone with suitable knowledge. That would obviousl;y be a good idea. > I don't think the argument that you pose > Lisi can ever stand up, just due to the definition of a child; and I doubt > that many parents would be happy with the suggestion. I certainly wouldn't > be if leaving my niece or nephew with anyone I didn't know. We are not postulating "leaving" the child with someone you do not know. We are postulating the child just turning up under his/her own steam. Children of the age of your niece and nephew would not be going anywhere under their own steam. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] HantsLUG Meetings Question
On Tuesday 10 April 2012 22:08:10 Tim Brocklehurst wrote: > However, if the previously unsupervised youngster is in the company > of a responsible adult (trusted by both youngster and parents), then I > don't think there would be a problem I think that you would find that there would. Parents running a car-pool seem to have to be CRB checked. :-( But I would have thought that if the child brings him or herself, and is not accompanied, then no adult is responsible, so no adult needs checking. Think of public transport. No child could travel unaccompanied because of all the unchecked adults that are likely to be on the bus/train/aeroplane, if we needed CRB checking in case child turns up. And does anyone know what age counts as a child? Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Meeting Talks
On Tuesday 10 April 2012 21:20:46 James Bensley wrote: > Ultimately where I'd like to go with his is if the talker where happy > to, record the talks and host them on line, to form a community > lectures page for the wiki, with an archive of the talks. This used to be done almost always. Has the collection of talks disappeared from the wiki? I can't check because the wiki appears to be off-line. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] HantsLUG Meetings Question
On Tuesday 10 April 2012 20:16:26 Jon Wilks wrote: > I took my son Ross to the last HantsLug meeting and he is 9. > > Jon > > On Apr 10, 2012 7:03 PM, "Dominic Rodriguez" wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > Is there a minimum age limit for HantsLUG meetings? If so, could you tell > > me? I am 13 if that helps. My granddaughter came with me several times when she was nine. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Latitude C840 keyboard
On Monday 09 April 2012 20:50:35 hants...@googlemail.com wrote: > I am on the hunt for a Dell Latitude C840 keyboard. I could obviously try > eBay, but my experience of getting electronic/computing bits for eBay does > not inspire me with confidence. I have wasted my money on duds more often > than I have been successful. So I thought that I would try here first. I > am cross-posting with the Surrey LUG and the Portsmouth LUG to increase my > chances, but I promise to keep other lists informed if I get an offer. > > I will happily buy, beg or steal. Borrowing wouldn't be much good! Thanks to replies on one of the other lists, I now know that there is more than one keyboard for the Latitude C840, and I need to check the part-number on the back of the present keyboard. This I shall do before proceeding!! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Latitude C840 keyboard
I am on the hunt for a Dell Latitude C840 keyboard. I could obviously try eBay, but my experience of getting electronic/computing bits for eBay does not inspire me with confidence. I have wasted my money on duds more often than I have been successful. So I thought that I would try here first. I am cross-posting with the Surrey LUG and the Portsmouth LUG to increase my chances, but I promise to keep other lists informed if I get an offer. I will happily buy, beg or steal. Borrowing wouldn't be much good! Thanks, Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Domain type authentication using Linux as "domain" server
On Sunday 08 April 2012 12:35:52 Ally Biggs wrote: > Sent from my iPhone I know that that imposes certain limitations, and am not sure what they are, but would it be possible for you to break your text up a bit? I made the effort to read it, but it was an effort, and I would greatly appreciate some more air in your offerings. :-( (I am talking about physically difficult to read, not difficult to understand when once read.) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat
On Sunday 25 March 2012 17:22:45 Bryn wrote: > Yeah there's a note on my todo list about writing a data destruction > policy!!! AFAIK dban works and has been certified by someone or other > cleverer than me. > > I believe Jamies use a paid for tool (paid per use not by single > licence!!!) as part of an agreement with a supplier of PC's to them. There are those who believe that it is virtually impossible to ensure that data on an HDD is unretrievable, no matter what you throw at it, how much you are willing to spend on it or how much trouble you are prepared to go to. Some people believe that simple destruction (say with the help of a large hammer and strong magnet) is enough, but Hugo Mills once said that the only way to be absolutely sure that the data on an HDD is utterly unretrievable is to melt the disk in the centre of a very hot furnace. He said the temperature that he believed necessary to be absolutely sure, but I'm afraid that I can't remember it. Most data is clearly not worth that amount of trouble. But if you were afraid that the Nazi war machine could use the data on the drive to drop an atom bomb on your population, what would it be worth then? Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat
On Sunday 25 March 2012 16:36:23 Bryn wrote: > Why is your company's policy this??? dban'll wipe a disk. an old > phone can be reset. WEEE by any chance? That, and the horror stories they have heard. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat
On Saturday 24 March 2012 22:09:47 Ally Biggs wrote: > It is my intention to setup a inventory of the kit we have at Jamies, > especially the server / side of things previously this has been overlooked > I was told there wasn't a market for this type of hardware not naming any > names here we all know that was a ridiculous comment. It has not always been overlooked. One used to be able to have a look at what was there and could get almost anything - it was especially good for server bits at one stage. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat
On Saturday 24 March 2012 21:25:57 Bryn Jones wrote: > seems > to be using volunteers to refurb machines they'd been given free to sell > at inflated prices Last time I read the emails they used to send me, they were charging to accept the donated gear, and were acceepting only stuff that I find it hard to imagine anyone getting rid of. Yes, I fear that I grew disillusioned with Jamie's a while ago. It was super at first!! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat
Hi Bryn, As others have said, welcome to the list! On Saturday 24 March 2012 08:31:16 Sean Gibbins wrote: > Not that it will necessarily present a problem, but just that you may > find yourself in competition with them for donated kit. On the other > hand you may find them to be a useful resource for cheap spares if and > when donations fail to come up with a component you need. May I join this party? I too am hoping to be in competition since I am on the verge (I hope!) of running something similar for/with Havant Transitions Network (the Transitions Network is a national (in theory, anyhow) green initiative). > I have just done the survey and have been thinking. Could one have an > initiative of: "Thinking of binning your old, outdated, slow computer? Come > along to and we shall show you how to give it a new > lease of life." And also offer refurbished computers for next to nothing to > e.g. OAPs, school children on benefits etc. Let's keep computers out of > landfill! Broken legs are no fun. I hope that you are young enough for it to heal properly. You sound it, at least! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Adobe Flash
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 14:28:08 Daniel Llewellyn wrote: > What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to > Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing? I shan't convert. I don't much like Chrome. But I shall probably run it for news items etc. :-( That is, if I can. I am still running Lenny - it's a long story - and Google, bless it, has disabled the copy of Chrome I already had on the grounds that it is too old, and will not allow me to install anything on Lenny (too old). What about Chromium? Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] HantsLUG Website
On Monday 20 February 2012 17:04:37 Imran Chaudhry wrote: > Hi Andy, while there is work being done on the website... :-) any chance we > could chuck one of these new HantsLUG logos up on the site? > > http://opticalgarbage.com/images/hantslug/linux2.jpg > http://opticalgarbage.com/images/hantslug/linux2light.jpg I prefer the present one. My 2p Lisi > > I asked a friend to whip them up ages ago. > > On 19 February 2012 20:05, Andy Random wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Dominic Rodriguez wrote: > > > > I was wondering why I can't access the HantsLUG website. It's been like > > > >> this for a couple of days now. > >> > >> Is there any work on the website going on? > > > > The VPS that runs the Hants LUG website changed IP address and we are > > still in the process of getting the DNS changed over. > > > > The site is currently available via the alternative URL: > > > > http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/ > > > > Andy > > > > > > -- > > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > > Web Interface: > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/hampshire<https://mailman.l > >ug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire> LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > > --**--**-- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] simh - problem with libpcap.a
On Saturday 11 February 2012 22:27:34 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Rob, > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 05:54:57PM -, Rob Malpass wrote: > > I've gone into synaptic and installed everything I can see for libpcap > > but the file still hasn't appeared. This is the right procedure isn't > > it? What should my next move be? I've never understood libraries and > > dependencies on Linux - that's why I switched from Slackware to Ubuntu a > > few years back. There is a simh package in synaptic but this hasn't > > installed the file either. > > On Debian: > > $ apt-file search libpcap.a > libpcap0.8-dev: /usr/lib/libpcap.a Simpler (also on Debian): lisi@Junior:~$ aptitude search simh p simh - Emulators for 33 different computers lisi@Junior:~$ Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Hampshire Digest, Vol 64, Issue 9
On Saturday 11 February 2012 14:38:31 Stephen Davies wrote: > This one is currently at the top of my list > http://www.lambda-tek.com/A034022-Konica-Minolta-Magicolor-1650EN-Colour-La >ser-A4-Colour-Laser-20ppm-Mono-5ppm-Colour-600-dpi-x-600-dpi-256-MB-Internal >-Memory-1-Year-~cs/B209522&viewSpec=y#productTop £91.80 inc VAT at the > moment. Nice machine. Pity it is so heavy. :-( (But colour lasers ususally are.) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Network laser printer recommendations
On Thursday 09 February 2012 23:13:15 Chris Dennis wrote: > I've seen a couple of Samsung ML printers recently that have just given > up (whirring away with the red light on, no obvious way of fixing them). > On the other hand my wife's one has been fine for a couple of years. Mine has been fine for ages. At least 4 or 5 years. But things can change. But I have installed others for other people and have never seen one die like this! I have however got two dead HPs. Mind you, they are inkjet and the problem is probably blocked nozzles. But Samsung, like HP, have a Debian package, supplied upstream by Samsung, which is why they install so easily. And I'm all for supporting those who supply Linux Drivers! (HP and Samsung!) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Network laser printer recommendations
On Thursday 09 February 2012 22:26:33 Peter Collins wrote: > Just as a vote for HP, I have a HP 2840 (big and colour) it worked with > no messing around, if I remember right Ubuntu 10.10 and debian 6 just > scanned the network found it and made it available, I have also an old > HP 2100 with a Jet Direct that worked well, much the same if I remember > right - certainly didn't have to mess about. I have a Samsung ML1510. It works otb, as have other Samsung MLs that I have installed for other people. It is b&w and has quite a small footprint. Mine is not a networked one, but if it is connected to one of the computers on my small network, CUPS picks it up and can print to it. It does, of course, have to be plugged in to a computer which is switched on. I think that the latest Samsung ML printer has a networked version. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Novatech - Ubuntu good news?
On Monday 16 January 2012 16:34:05 Stephen Davies wrote: > I've always found the staff at Novatech very techincally aware. And very helpful. In addition, I have several times had helpful advice about Linux; and Linux using Novatech staff sometimes showed up on the Linux Novatech forum. (Probably still do - I haven't used it recently myself.) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Help! I'm buying a laptop.
On Saturday 14 January 2012 18:46:37 Sean Gibbins wrote: > On 14/01/12 18:35, Keith Edmunds wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:34:51 +, pet...@gmail.com said: > >> It was late. Give me a break! Had enuf that night to sink a boat. > > > > I enjoy a drink as much as most other people, but I take responsibility > > for my actions. You, on the other hand, are asking others to make > > allowances for the fact that you were (presumably) under the influence of > > alcohol. > > > > What you should have written was: "I'm very sorry if I offended anyone > > with my recent postings. It won't happen again". > > Utter bollocks maybe Keith, but hardly offensive. > > And, even if it was to some, they could have switched off or simply > tuned to another channel, so to speak. > > Sean I was minorly upset at being told to give him a break, on the grounds that he was drunk and therefore deserved sympathy. But as you say, the remedy is in my own hands. I have survived for well over half a century without ever giving someone a break because he or she was drunk. I can continue to survive. I can simply ignore Peter B.'s existence, and he can ignore mine. That way we should both be happy. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Help! I'm buying a laptop.
On Wednesday 11 January 2012 22:54:50 Peter B. wrote: > My main point is to trigger the thing in your head that made u say - Linux > is the way. > > Outsourcing is good sometimes. Maybe a rent-a-box and run it fRom home > solution. could b the key for u. Then u can turn that box into Wat u need. > do Wat the hello u like and if all goes pear u can ask 4 a reboot. If u > need links And in English??? Please, don't let's start to write on the list in Gobbledygook. Pretty please? Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] VDSL equipment
On Sunday 01 January 2012 16:15:39 Stephen Davies wrote: > I've certainly not regretted upgrading to FTTC. Some of us haven't got the option. :-( And "there are no plans at present" to bring us either 20N or cable. Still, there are htose who can only get dial-up speeds. At least we get 8meg. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Answers,
On Friday 23 December 2011 18:58:46 Mike Austin wrote: > Fortunately the several members of this LUG who have already joined > understand my intent. I'm sure that everyone did. Pedantry is just that, but most pedants know perfectly well what other people actually mean. And it is sometimes possible - and very gratifying - to turn the tables on a pedant. But you probably need to be a pedant yourself to do that successfully!! For better or for worse, people use "Linux" to mean a whole distribution. One cannot hold back the tide of linguistic shift. One may, if one wishes, deride it - but one cannot hold it back. Oh - and there are also Linux Questions, Linux Magazine, Linux User Groups etc. You are in good company. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Answers
On Friday 23 December 2011 19:53:35 Jack Knight wrote: > On 23 December 2011 17:46, wrote: > > On Friday 23 December 2011 11:12:10 Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: > > > On my recent birthday, I rejoiced at being told that I'm only 21 > > > Celsius! > > > > Sorry to be dim, Chris, but are you saying that 21 Celsius is the same > > thing > > as 70 Fahrenheit? Getting that far has taken me a mere 7 hours! Yes, I > > suppose you are. But that took arithmetic. 21 Celsius makes sense. > > Many people, I know, use Fahrenheit. But does it make sense to anybody?? > > :-/ > > > > Lisi > > > > I hate to say this, but maybe LMGTFY ? I did. > actually - save the journey: > > 21 Degrees Celsius × 9 ÷ 5 + 32 = Degrees Fahrenheit (69.8°F) > > > 7 hours? 7 hours to realise that that was what he was on about. I did the arithmetic in my head at the point when I realised it. I just don't think in Fahrenheit, which is why I couldn't make out what a moderate temperature had to do with his age. > 7 seconds - and I'm 34 - sorry, I really should say 0x34 ;^)= Yes, but you knew what he meant. Transferring Centigrade to Fahrenheit, and vice versa, is easy, a mere matter of arithmetic. Knowing that that is what is needed is quite another matter, and I didn't get the joke. I neither think in nor understand Fahrenheit except for the human body temperature, and I had to learn that to be able to read a thermometer when in this country. References were made to "a certain age". I am 45 (hex). And I can't think in, and do not think of, Fahrenheit. It makes no sense at all to me, where Centigrade is logical and comprehensible. The important thing in this isn't so much how long you have lived, as where you have done that living. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Answers
On Friday 23 December 2011 11:12:10 Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: > On my recent birthday, I rejoiced at being told that I'm only 21 Celsius! Sorry to be dim, Chris, but are you saying that 21 Celsius is the same thing as 70 Fahrenheit? Getting that far has taken me a mere 7 hours! Yes, I suppose you are. But that took arithmetic. 21 Celsius makes sense. Many people, I know, use Fahrenheit. But does it make sense to anybody?? :-/ Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Answers
On Thursday 22 December 2011 23:11:04 Jim Kissel wrote: > hants...@googlemail.com wrote: > > On Thursday 22 December 2011 21:28:15 Keith Edmunds wrote: > >> Right or > >> wrong, justified or not, that's reality. > > > > Speaking personally, that jars considerably less than modern > > teenager-speak for contact lenses. > > > > To me, a "contact" is either a person with whom I in contact, or a person > > with whom I wish to be in contact, or something that enables electrically > > charged wires to meet and communicate. To my granddaughter it is a > > miniature spectacle lens that you wear in your eye > > I've worn contacts since the late 70's. Maybe I'm younger in heart > than my 63 years would indicate. ;-) Or maybe you are from the other side of the pond? ;-) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Answers
On Thursday 22 December 2011 21:28:15 Keith Edmunds wrote: > Right or > wrong, justified or not, that's reality. Speaking personally, that jars considerably less than modern teenager-speak for contact lenses. To me, a "contact" is either a person with whom I in contact, or a person with whom I wish to be in contact, or something that enables electrically charged wires to meet and communicate. To my granddaughter it is a miniature spectacle lens that you wear in your eye. Even the Académie Francaise is in the process of not being able to hold the breach. And don't get me started on monstrosities like television and beefburger. C'est la vie. Language is a living entity. I am just in the process of reading Chaucer - in translation. I can't understand a large part of the original: yet his English is the ancestor of ours. Language changes with time and space. It is not immutable. That is what makes it so interesting. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Idiots guide to Ethernet Switch failover needed.
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 15:03:00 Paul Stimpson wrote: > >The problem is, if I fail to get the concept across correctly, actual > >lives might be lost!!! (It is going to be used in a safety related > >communications system) > >It is the job of the other person to decide if equipment X is good > >enough for the job or not from a safety perspective. > > I wouldn't try to explain the technicalities. +1 My immediate reaction too. This is something I have tried to explain to experts in the past. For example, when a new computer system was put in in a factory where I worked, the computer chap given the job was given me by the production manager as a "helper" to make sure that the system would actually work. The first production level clerk the computer bod approached, nearly had a heart attack on the spot when he explained in detail what was going on. I drew him aside and suggested that it would be better if he just told her what to do. He tried again. I watched an incipient nervous breakdown join an incipient heart attack, and intervened. I told her what to do, and peace reigned again. All most people want to know is what to do, and perhaps what will happen if they don't. Explanation merely muddies the waters. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux printer recommendations.
On Saturday 17 December 2011 16:11:41 Anton Piatek wrote: > I have an oldish Samsung bw laser, but it was trivial to make work in > linux. +1 Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Debian 3.0 kernel help
On Friday 16 December 2011 15:33:54 Bob Dunlop wrote: > Is there a way to upgrade a single package? On Gentoo this is trivially > easy. Have you tried Squeeze backports, Bob? http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ It works great for any packages that are there. I did search for a 3.x kernel, using various terms and couldn't find one. If the kernel you want is in Wheezy, I am surprised if it is not in backports and my search abilitites fade with my eyesight. But you can, by pinning, use just named packages form Wheezy. I have not tried this and can therefore not tell you how, but it seems to be eminently doable by the competant! The Debian users list would be a good place to ask. There are some real experts on pinning there. But tell them what you want to achieve. There may be a more debianised way of doing it. http://lists.debian.org/ HTH Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] power problem
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 10:06:09 Owain Clarke wrote: > It's not a fortune, but it's too much to spend only to > find out it's something else That is what happened to me. Now I don't know whether I was sent a dud replacement or it is somerthing else that is wrong. :-( Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Changing from TalkTalk
On Thursday 01 December 2011 21:56:48 Vic wrote: > My personal experience - which lacks statistical significance, naturally - > is that it isn't so much the *rank* of a person that matters so much as > the need to abide by assorted rules and procedures. Those of us of a lower > rank tend to find these things out the hard way... Believe me that three years in the High Court not only taught me the procedure rules, I learnt how to use them. Everyone in the courtroom knew the relevant parts of the Civil Procedure rules and followed the Civil Procedure Rules. We (the LIPs) knew quite lot more than the judges about what was the procedure for an LIP, nd asked us! But on that occasion ( or rather, More accurately, those occasions) it was certainly a matter of rank. > > They may call your bluff. So don't bluff. > > Royal Mail tried to call my bluff. I wasn't bluffing :-) They sent me an > inch of A4 with all sorts of counter-claims to try to scare me off. That is a legal habit based on when clerks and solicitors were paid by the word. > That > failed; cashing their cheque was one of the most satisfying moments I've > ever had :-) :-)) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Changing from TalkTalk
On Thursday 01 December 2011 21:14:39 Vic wrote: > > - threaten to sue their ass, mention the name of a good solicitor. > > I have a maxim by which I stick: never threaten to sue unless you really > intend to. > > Aside from it almost always being a clear sign of someone with no legal > representation, it also means you've misunderstood the first rule of > courts: the lawyers are the only ones who win. If you go to court, you > will lose. It only makes sense if you end up losing less than you would > have done otherwise. > > As I've heard elsewhere, "a good lawyer can help you win in court. A great > lawyer will keep you out of the court altogether". > > If you do end up on the litigation path, I've found the Small Claims Court > to be most effective. And if you do end up in front of a judge, make sure > you've got all your data readily to hand[1]. The real small claims court no longer exists. You have to go down the full application path and persuade the Judge when you go for directions that you should be assigned to the small claims track. And some of the civil procedure rules apply to such applications, when previously they did not apply in the small claims court, to which you could apply directly. It isn't just that a lawyer will almost always beat an LIP (Litigant In Person), a person of higher rank will almost always beat a person of lower rank, no matter what the case is. It isn't what is said that matters, it is who said it. The ranks, starting at the bottom, are: 1) LIP 2) Junior (barrister who has not taken silk) (Translating: who has not been elevated to the rank of QC (Queen's Counsel)) 3) QC 4) QC regarded as superior (for any reason) by his fellow QCs and the Judge. I learnt this the hard way, appearing in the High Court as an LIP for three years. It has left me with a much better knowledge of the law and its procedures than I would wish to have. :-( I echo Vic's warnings. They may call your bluff. So don't bluff. And remember that litigation is a very, very expensive process. That £10,000.00 legal cover that house insurers often package in with house insurance would barely get you as far as the courtroom door. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Changing from TalkTalk
On Thursday 01 December 2011 20:19:12 James Bensley wrote: > Get a clue-full LLU package supplier and you should be sorted IMO. Only if he is on an LLU exhange. Many of us are not. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [Highly OT]: I'm looking for some skills...
On Monday 28 November 2011 21:34:28 Vic wrote: > I need someone with some paper accreditations from some of the following > organisations :- > > Cisco I have a piece of paper from Cisco, if I can find it. It is of no practical use whatsoever, but it does (or anyhow did) exist. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Meeting reminder and AGM Information
On Monday 28 November 2011 15:25:30 Tony Wood wrote: > +1 for thanks to Adam!! + another :-) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Meeting reminder and AGM Information
On Sunday 27 November 2011 17:09:08 Hants LUG Chairman wrote: > Can I also call for someone who will attend but is NOT standing for a > position to act as returning officer. You lose your vote, cannot second any > candidate and must have been a member for at least the past two years. I'm game, but I haven't been attending much recently, so may not be eligible. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] constantly flickering LEDs on router: Solved - amid blushes
Found this had gone from a dummy address and that is why it hadn't arrived - sorry, Paul. On Sunday 17 May 2009 20:14:31 you wrote: > Please tell us a bit about the machine. OS and version. What software you > have running. > > Do you have bittorrent? > > - > > Sorry - I ought to have said those. They are not even in the "real" email > I sent after my slip. > > Answers: I have ktorrent. > Konqueror, Iceweasel, KMail were running. > OS Lenny. > Sorry about the broken threading. I am having to juggle between GMail and > KMail in order to get the right sender's address on here. > > Will now reboot and check again for KTorrent via ps. Thanks for reminding > me. Paul - you are a genius and I am an idiot. ps -A | grep ktorrent followed by kill seems to have cured the problem. Very grateful thanks, Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] constantly flickering LEDs on router
Please tell us a bit about the machine. OS and version. What software you have running. Do you have bittorrent? - Sorry - I ought to have said those. They are not even in the "real" email I sent after my slip. Answers: I have ktorrent. Konqueror, Iceweasel, Kmail were running. OS Lenny. Sorry about the broken threading. I am having to juggle between GMail and KMail in order to get the right sender's address on here. Will now reboot and check again for KTorrent via ps. Thanks for reminding me. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] constantly flickering LEDs on router, second try.
Sorry, everybody. Shouldn't have explored while I had an email on the go. :-( I have had this problem since yesterday evening. When my main desktop is connected to the router the light on the port to which it is connected flickers constantly. I have tried it on 3 of the 4 ports. I do not have this problem with any of the other computers that are attached. Simultaneously the Internet connected led flashes. Initially the IDE HDD light flashed as well, but that appears to have stopped. I have tried: Three of the ports on the router. two different network cards (the computer has two) run rkhunter a live CD The first two of those made no difference. Rkhunter found, so it said, a Trojan in inetd. So far I have done nothing with that information other than worry. The last, when I finally found a live CD that was prepared to talk to my hardware (Puppy 4.1.2 - Knoppix 6 was sadly a no go :-( ) was rock solid. I tried to use it a fair bit, then just left it, and it stayed rock solid for about two hours. I have googled both about the problem and about the rkhunter result. I do not know how much credence I should give the result, and if Puppy has rkhunter in its toolkit I may run it on the system from there. As to the problem, other possible causes I found were PSU and RAM. I have a PC/SPS Tester, but am a bit scared to use it after all the warnings on the net! I shall probably run Memtest overnight. TIA Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] constantly flickering LEDs on router
I have had this problem since yesterday evening. When my main desktop is connected to the router -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] AGM Apologies
On Thursday 25 September 2008 11:53:22 Peter Salisbury wrote: > 2008/9/24 Tony Whitmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:01:32 +0100, "Ciemon Dunville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > >> Adrian, and the rest of the committee, > >> > >> I find myself unable to attend the AGM this year due to work > >> commitments. Please accept my apologies. > > > > Likewise for me. > > > > Tony > > and me, Peter And, sadly and at the last minute, me. :-( Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] kdm login screen erroneously reports that password and user name do not match
I am sorting out major problems that I caused myself by chickening out of changing an awkward to get at CMOS battery. :-( I have reinstalled Lenny, and am now sorting out the problems that have arisen from even my backup being corrupted. I am stuck on my present problem, and it prevents me from moving on to the next. :-( I now cannot log in at the kdm login screen. I could do so before I tried to restore my files. (I am using, or trying to use, KDE 3.5.9). It is reporting that the user name and password do not match. I changed the password at the command line in case the password had got corrupted, but I could still not log in. I created another user and tried to log in as that user. Still no luck. I can login at the command line as either of the two non-root users and at the kdm login screen as neither of them, even tho' I have tried repeatedly and been excessively careful with my typing. I have googled, but not come up with anything relevant. What may I have mucked up and how do I put it right? TIA Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
