Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Hi I have a 904hd. I have used eeebuntu 2 and 3 standard on this machine. The wireless works perfectly. eeebuntu 2 needs eee-control for the function keys controling the wireless to work. John Eayrs On Saturday 06 June 2009 09:26:33 AdamC wrote: > 2009/6/1 Richard Danter : > > And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was Linux... > > > > http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ > > > > Maybe this explains why updates are no longer working (we get out of > > memory errors now, even though there is nothing extra installed). > > Guess Asus have abandoned Linux. > > > > Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? > > > > Rich > > I've prepared a USB stick with UNR on it, but have been put off by the > wireless problems (according to some reports, the wireless needs some > work on the kernel). This has put me off as I need to install it when > I have a lot of time to fix it. > > Anyone had a go at this? > > Adam -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
2009/6/1 Richard Danter : > And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was Linux... > > http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ > > Maybe this explains why updates are no longer working (we get out of > memory errors now, even though there is nothing extra installed). > Guess Asus have abandoned Linux. > > Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? > > Rich I've prepared a USB stick with UNR on it, but have been put off by the wireless problems (according to some reports, the wireless needs some work on the kernel). This has put me off as I need to install it when I have a lot of time to fix it. Anyone had a go at this? Adam -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
> -Original Message- > From: hampshire-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:hampshire- > boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Alan Pope > CTRL+ALT+T invokes a terminal. But not if the upgrade installs have left things so cluttered there's no space on /... In which case, running a terminal from the file manager is the only route available, then apt-get clean. HTH Peter ** This communication is confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you. E-mail including attachments is susceptible to data corruption, interception, unauthorized amendment, tampering and viruses, and we only send and receive e-mails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, amendment, tampering or viruses or any consequences thereof. This email, its content and any attachments is PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL to TANDBERG Television, Part of the Ericsson Group. www.tandbergtv.com ** -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
On Tue, Jun 02 at 02:03, Richard Danter wrote: ... > free up some disk space. I wonder how many non-tech people would have > figured that one out, specially since to get to a terminal to type it > you have to open file manager first...! Uhm you can get a terminal on Xandros by hitting Ctl-Alt-T from the main screen and most other places. At least you can on the 901s we have here. -- Bob Dunlop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
2009/6/2 Richard Danter : > Well I fixed the Xandros issue. Turns out the nice graphical install > tool does not clean up after it. I had to do a "sudo apt-get clean" to > free up some disk space. I wonder how many non-tech people would have > figured that one out, specially since to get to a terminal to type it > you have to open file manager first...! > CTRL+ALT+T invokes a terminal. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
2009/6/1 Richard Danter : > And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was Linux... > > http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ > > Maybe this explains why updates are no longer working (we get out of > memory errors now, even though there is nothing extra installed). Well I fixed the Xandros issue. Turns out the nice graphical install tool does not clean up after it. I had to do a "sudo apt-get clean" to free up some disk space. I wonder how many non-tech people would have figured that one out, specially since to get to a terminal to type it you have to open file manager first...! Rich > Guess Asus have abandoned Linux. > > Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? > > Rich > > > -- > http://radanter.deviantart.com/ > -- http://radanter.deviantart.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Pavithran wrote: > 2009/6/1 Richard Danter >> Guess Asus have abandoned Linux. > Yeah corporate decissions .. god knows how much M$ is paying for it . This link looks up to date and GNU Linux is still mentioned as an option, http://event.asus.com/eeepc/comparison/eeepc_comparison.htm -- WWW http://www.diaser.org.uk - working together to make long term digital archives more accessible RSS http://sourceforge.net/export/rss2_projnews.php?group_id=258272 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
2009/6/1 Richard Danter > > Guess Asus have abandoned Linux. > Yeah corporate decissions .. god knows how much M$ is paying for it . > > Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? > I tried Debian from Debian eee project and everything rocked :D http://look-pavi.blogspot.com/2009/03/my-eee-901-on-debian-lenny.html Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri www.pavithran.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Martin A. Brooks wrote: > On 01/06/2009 21:20, Sean Gibbins wrote: >> Martin A. Brooks wrote: >> >>> I'm practical and pragmatic mostly, so I went back to the OS it shipped >>> with. Hey ho. >>> >> >> Try Pupeee or Puppy - both are pretty painless in terms of the download >> and quite refreshing in terms of the approach. >> > > Call me lazy and unadventurous, but these days I simply can't be > bothered with a Linux distro that isn't Debian, or very closely > related to Debian. In practical terms this means *buntu on desktops > and Debian on servers. > > Fair enough Martin. We use Ubuntu almost exclusively here, and I am all but done with playing around with other distros now, since they are all much of a muchness. However, I came across Puppy when I wanted something lightweight that would run off of a 2 GB USB stick to by-pass my work laptop's fully encrypted hard drive and make use of the rest of the hardware for personal use (ripping my vinyl albums for the most part). I found it to be quite innovative in its approach and it remains my USB-stick distro of choice despite having tried the various Ubuntu/Mint/CrunchBang USB efforts created from the live disks since then. One thing I like is that it is optimised to run in memory and make as few writes to disk as it can, and also the ease with which the whole USB drive install can be made to sit within an encrypted file. I have used it to boot several other machines for maintenance so its usefulness also extends beyond its original brief, as it were. The downside is that you run as root, but then it was only ever intended to be used in single-user mode. Also, it is a lightweight distro designed for speed and a small memory footprint on older kit, so many of the chunkier 'standard' applications found on regular distros are absent on the base install. That said it absolutely flies on a dual-core laptop with 2GB RAM! Sean -- www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
On 01/06/2009 21:20, Sean Gibbins wrote: Martin A. Brooks wrote: I'm practical and pragmatic mostly, so I went back to the OS it shipped with. Hey ho. Try Pupeee or Puppy - both are pretty painless in terms of the download and quite refreshing in terms of the approach. Call me lazy and unadventurous, but these days I simply can't be bothered with a Linux distro that isn't Debian, or very closely related to Debian. In practical terms this means *buntu on desktops and Debian on servers. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Martin A. Brooks wrote: > I'm practical and pragmatic mostly, so I went back to the OS it shipped > with. Hey ho. Try Pupeee or Puppy - both are pretty painless in terms of the download and quite refreshing in terms of the approach. Sean -- www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
On 01/06/2009 14:41, Paul Stimpson wrote: > I have Vodafone and I believe all new connections come with the kiddie-safe > content filter turned on. To get it switched off I had to either register on > the website or call customer services. In either case I believe you have to > provide a credit card number. ISTR they charge a pound to your card (then > give you £2 back off your bill) as proof you are an adult. > I've just signed up for a 3G contract with Vodaphone. (See previous post re: NC10). I didn't have to provide a credit card number to get the (slightly bizarre and random) filtering switched off. I just called customer services and they did the required voodoo. YMMV I guess. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
On 01/06/2009 09:18, Richard Danter wrote: > Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? > > I just bought a Samsung NC10 (with built in 3G modem) which ships with XP Home. I tried UNR which wouldn't even boot to the installer screen despite much googling and tooing and froing and being assured I was obviously Doing It Wrong[tm]. Then for a chuckle I tried Vista, (I actually quite like Vista) which bluescreened horribly when some of the XP-only drivers got loaded. Finally, I tried vanilla Ubuntu which hated the 3G modem. I'm practical and pragmatic mostly, so I went back to the OS it shipped with. Hey ho. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Victor Churchill wrote: > 2009/6/1 Jim Kissel > >> >> Isaac Close wrote: >>> I was thinking more along the lines of creating a tunnel to a remote >> location where access to my proxy and dns is availible. Thus all traffic >> will be encrypted going to and from a familiar location. >> > > Should be able to screen out some of the unwanted adbytes too that way. > >>> Oh and i'll be monitoring several aspects of the connection, i expect >>> it to be a fairly flakey service. >>> >> Sounds like you have a good handle on what's needed for a work-around. >> If you find Voda service flaky, I can recommend 3. Been with them for >> about 14 months, and a 15GBP/month contract for 3Gigs. Good service if >> there is a signal. Their initial set-up is a bit flaky. > > > That's putting it very mildly... the 3connect gadget or whatever it is that > does the Windows connection is ghastly (that's when my wife uses it on her I wouldn't know. Gave up that nasty habit a while back. The network manager on Xandros is easy, quick, and does what it says on the label. > laptop, you understand). Ubuntu Network Manager seems to deal with it fairly > OK in my (limited) experience. As for "if there is signal..." - on the train > from Bmth to Clapham Junction I gave up trying to do any online work and > played Sudoku instead. Seemed to be no signal more often than not, so to > speak. I have the same experience Woking <-> Waterloo, but Reading<->Paddington is ok. YMMV -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
2009/6/1 Jim Kissel > > > Isaac Close wrote: > > > > I was thinking more along the lines of creating a tunnel to a remote > location where access to my proxy and dns is availible. Thus all traffic > will be encrypted going to and from a familiar location. > Should be able to screen out some of the unwanted adbytes too that way. > > > > Oh and i'll be monitoring several aspects of the connection, i expect > > it to be a fairly flakey service. > > > Sounds like you have a good handle on what's needed for a work-around. > If you find Voda service flaky, I can recommend 3. Been with them for > about 14 months, and a 15GBP/month contract for 3Gigs. Good service if > there is a signal. Their initial set-up is a bit flaky. That's putting it very mildly... the 3connect gadget or whatever it is that does the Windows connection is ghastly (that's when my wife uses it on her laptop, you understand). Ubuntu Network Manager seems to deal with it fairly OK in my (limited) experience. As for "if there is signal..." - on the train from Bmth to Clapham Junction I gave up trying to do any online work and played Sudoku instead. Seemed to be no signal more often than not, so to speak. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Isaac Close wrote: > --- On Mon, 1/6/09, Jim Kissel wrote: > >>> Isaac Close wrote: >>> The very next thing i'm going to do is install linux. > >> If Vodafone is messing with DNS to do the re-direct, >> switching OS's will >> not alter the result. > > Yes I know. > > I was thinking more along the lines of creating a tunnel to a remote location where access to my proxy and dns is availible. Thus all traffic will be encrypted going to and from a familiar location. > > Oh and i'll be monitoring several aspects of the connection, i expect > it to be a fairly flakey service. > Sounds like you have a good handle on what's needed for a work-around. If you find Voda service flaky, I can recommend 3. Been with them for about 14 months, and a 15GBP/month contract for 3Gigs. Good service if there is a signal. Their initial set-up is a bit flaky. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:18:06 +0100 Richard Danter wrote: > And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was Linux... > >http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ > > Maybe this explains why updates are no longer working (we get out of > memory errors now, even though there is nothing extra installed). > Guess Asus have abandoned Linux. > > Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? Just get the Debian Eeepc Distro. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install I got the version that loads onto a memory stick and it installed with no problems on my 900, everything just works including wireless and blutooth. The default gui is gnome but I have run xfce and openbox on it. The installer uses Lenny as its base but since squeeze is now supported I did a dist-upgrade yesterday without any problems. I got 50+ updated packages today whereas with Lenny I was getting only a few per week, but given Squeeze is a work in progress the number of updates is to be expected and is no worse than experienced with Sid on my main system. -- John Lewis using Debian Sid with windowmaker for a nicer desktop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Hi, I have Vodafone and I believe all new connections come with the kiddie-safe content filter turned on. To get it switched off I had to either register on the website or call customer services. In either case I believe you have to provide a credit card number. ISTR they charge a pound to your card (then give you £2 back off your bill) as proof you are an adult. Cheers, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Jim Kissel Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:37:58 To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List Subject: Re: [Hampshire] A sad day... Isaac Close wrote: > --- On Mon, 1/6/09, Sean Gibbins wrote: > >> Richard Danter wrote: >>> And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was >> Linux... >>>http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ >>> > > Everytime I try to open this link i am redirected to a vodafone page. > > That is, on this windows xp machine with a PAYG vodafone usb broadband thing. > > I suppose vodafone knows much better than me and hijacks my connections to > protect me from terrorists and useful information etc. > > The very next thing i'm going to do is install linux. If Vodafone is messing with DNS to do the re-direct, switching OS's will not alter the result. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
--- On Mon, 1/6/09, Jim Kissel wrote: > >> Isaac Close wrote: > > The very next thing i'm going to do is install linux. > If Vodafone is messing with DNS to do the re-direct, > switching OS's will > not alter the result. Yes I know. I was thinking more along the lines of creating a tunnel to a remote location where access to my proxy and dns is availible. Thus all traffic will be encrypted going to and from a familiar location. Oh and i'll be monitoring several aspects of the connection, i expect it to be a fairly flakey service. Isaac. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
--- On Mon, 1/6/09, Victor Churchill wrote: > From: Victor Churchill > Subject: Re: [Hampshire] A sad day... > To: "Hampshire LUG Discussion List" > Date: Monday, 1 June, 2009, 12:26 PM > > > 2009/6/1 Isaac Close > > > > --- On Mon, 1/6/09, Sean Gibbins > wrote: > > > > > Richard Danter wrote: > > > > And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it > was > > > Linux... > > > > > > > >http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ > > > > > > > > Everytime I try to open this link i am redirected to > a vodafone page. > > > > That is, on this windows xp machine with a PAYG vodafone > usb broadband thing. > > Does this happen only for the one page, while others are > retrieved correctly? If so that sounds v. odd. I found with > a dongle from 3 that it would do that kind of thing for all > web access if the config was not right, but then behaved OK > .. ish. > > I've only been using it a couple of days. It rejected one site the other day too. Vodafone could probably argue that the device is pay-as-you-go and thus no personal checks are carried out at the time of purchase, therefore they content-filter everything. They probably content filter everything anyway and spy on everything everyone does. No doubt they'll be running the latest spyware embedded into the 'drivers' software installation aswell. One other thing, this costs 15GBP per GB, i'm paying to download unwanted adverts etc. Isaac. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Isaac Close wrote: > --- On Mon, 1/6/09, Sean Gibbins wrote: > >> Richard Danter wrote: >>> And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was >> Linux... >>>http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ >>> > > Everytime I try to open this link i am redirected to a vodafone page. > > That is, on this windows xp machine with a PAYG vodafone usb broadband thing. > > I suppose vodafone knows much better than me and hijacks my connections to > protect me from terrorists and useful information etc. > > The very next thing i'm going to do is install linux. If Vodafone is messing with DNS to do the re-direct, switching OS's will not alter the result. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
2009/6/1 Isaac Close > > --- On Mon, 1/6/09, Sean Gibbins wrote: > > > Richard Danter wrote: > > > And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was > > Linux... > > > > > >http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ > > > > > Everytime I try to open this link i am redirected to a vodafone page. > > That is, on this windows xp machine with a PAYG vodafone usb broadband > thing. Does this happen only for the one page, while others are retrieved correctly? If so that sounds v. odd. I found with a dongle from 3 that it would do that kind of thing for all web access if the config was not right, but then behaved OK .. ish. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
2009/6/1 Isaac Close : > > --- On Mon, 1/6/09, Sean Gibbins wrote: > >> Richard Danter wrote: >> > And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was >> Linux... >> > >> > http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ >> > > > Everytime I try to open this link i am redirected to a vodafone page. > > That is, on this windows xp machine with a PAYG vodafone usb broadband thing. > > I suppose vodafone knows much better than me and hijacks my connections to > protect me from terrorists and useful information etc. Urgh, that sounds a bit Big Brother (in the Orwellian sense) to me. Maybe time to switch providers, who knows what else they are "protecting" you from! > > The very next thing i'm going to do is install linux. :) Rich > > Isaac. > > > > > > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- > -- http://radanter.deviantart.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
--- On Mon, 1/6/09, Sean Gibbins wrote: > Richard Danter wrote: > > And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was > Linux... > > > >http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ > > Everytime I try to open this link i am redirected to a vodafone page. That is, on this windows xp machine with a PAYG vodafone usb broadband thing. I suppose vodafone knows much better than me and hijacks my connections to protect me from terrorists and useful information etc. The very next thing i'm going to do is install linux. Isaac. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
2009/6/1 Sean Gibbins : > Richard Danter wrote: >> And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was Linux... >> >> http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ >> >> Maybe this explains why updates are no longer working (we get out of >> memory errors now, even though there is nothing extra installed). >> Guess Asus have abandoned Linux. >> >> Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? > > I ran up Pupeee [1] on my daughter's 701 the other day and was very > impressed. It's essentially Puppy 4.2 optimised for Eee PCs. I currently > run it off a USB stick and have no intention of installing it to the SSD > (the machine is on loan from school), but it still performs well > despite that. The download is tiny and can be installed to a USB stick > on any machine with a CD/DVD, and subsequently run or installed on an > Eee PC machine. > > Worth a look, although I have not had a chance to compare it to the > Ubuntu Netbook build. Thanks for the suggestion! Rich > > Sean > > [1] http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Pupeee > > > -- > www.funkygibbins.me.uk > > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- > -- http://radanter.deviantart.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Richard Danter wrote: > And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was Linux... > >http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ > > Maybe this explains why updates are no longer working (we get out of > memory errors now, even though there is nothing extra installed). > Guess Asus have abandoned Linux. > > Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? I ran up Pupeee [1] on my daughter's 701 the other day and was very impressed. It's essentially Puppy 4.2 optimised for Eee PCs. I currently run it off a USB stick and have no intention of installing it to the SSD (the machine is on loan from school), but it still performs well despite that. The download is tiny and can be installed to a USB stick on any machine with a CD/DVD, and subsequently run or installed on an Eee PC machine. Worth a look, although I have not had a chance to compare it to the Ubuntu Netbook build. Sean [1] http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Pupeee -- www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
2009/6/1 Bob Dunlop : > Hi, > > On Mon, Jun 01 at 09:18, Richard Danter wrote: > ... >> Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? > > Had a little bit of fun installing it due to a duff USB memory stick, > but once I got that sorted, it does what it says on the tin. Hmm, so I just need to convince my wife... She had no problems using the pre-installed Linux, never mentioned using Windows, but I don't want her to start thinking that I need to swap one Linux for another because it is bad. Just out of curio, did you repartition the SSD to use all of it, or did you leave the restore partition so you could get back to the orig distro? Does everything work, including the web cam? Thanks R -- http://radanter.deviantart.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Hi, On Mon, Jun 01 at 09:18, Richard Danter wrote: ... > Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? Had a little bit of fun installing it due to a duff USB memory stick, but once I got that sorted, it does what it says on the tin. -- Bob Dunlop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] A sad day...
And to think I bought my wife an Eee _because_ it was Linux... http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/ Maybe this explains why updates are no longer working (we get out of memory errors now, even though there is nothing extra installed). Guess Asus have abandoned Linux. Maybe time to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, anyone tried it on a 901? Rich -- http://radanter.deviantart.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day for me (and Tux??). A good day for Bill?
On Thursday 30 April 2009 10:10:37 Steve Wesemeyer wrote: > Krec and Krecord are different programs: > > http://packages.debian.org/etch/krecord > > http://packages.debian.org/etch/krec > > I did a quick search on the debian website and it looks as if krecord is > only available for etch. It's therefore unlikely to be available in Ubuntu > 9.04. Thanks, Steve! I still have some unused space on my test-bed machine, so could install a third OS. I'll try that next if what I am doing at the moment does not work well enough. I can install Etch in the free space on the HDD and look at KRecord. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day for me (and Tux??). A good day for Bill?
On Wednesday 29 April 2009 22:22:48 Lisi wrote: > Thanks, Ed, Steve, Alan and David :-) > > I have tried krec, but got nowhere, at least partly because I didn't > understand it. Or is there another and different application called > Krecord? > > However, I must clearly try the Gnome program, and I want to try Jaunty, > and I assume that the Gnome recorder will be available in Jaunty. So I am > trying 2 things at once, have downloaded and burnt the Jaunty AMD64 iso and > am about to install it on a spare partition on my recently acquired testbed > machine. > > I'll keep my fingers crossed. If Doze recorder can only keep going for a > few minutes, it wouldn't be much use anyway. > > Lisi Lisi, Krec and Krecord are different programs: http://packages.debian.org/etch/krecord http://packages.debian.org/etch/krec I did a quick search on the debian website and it looks as if krecord is only available for etch. It's therefore unlikely to be available in Ubuntu 9.04. Cheers, Steve -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day for me (and Tux??). A good day for Bill?
Thanks, Ed, Steve, Alan and David :-) I have tried krec, but got nowhere, at least partly because I didn't understand it. Or is there another and different application called Krecord? However, I must clearly try the Gnome program, and I want to try Jaunty, and I assume that the Gnome recorder will be available in Jaunty. So I am trying 2 things at once, have downloaded and burnt the Jaunty AMD64 iso and am about to install it on a spare partition on my recently acquired testbed machine. I'll keep my fingers crossed. If Doze recorder can only keep going for a few minutes, it wouldn't be much use anyway. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day for me (and Tux??). A good day for Bill?
Lisi I got gnome sound recorder included in ubuntu 8.04) going with no expertise on my part, and captures bbc fine. Having said that, I recently stuffed it either during an update or later, when adding kde to the mix. I live in the hope of resurrecting it at the LUG meet on Sat! XP seems to record for just one minute on its default sound recorder, which is hardly enough time to utter 'I wonder if anyone is interested in a job ...' See you on Sat Ed -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day for me (and Tux??). A good day for Bill?
On Wednesday 29 April 2009 16:49:05 Lisi wrote: > I have been trying for weeks now to record a simple file in Linux, and > getting almost nowhere. (I recorded 2 words yesterday, but now can't do it > again. And anyhow, 2 words is not enough.) I just don't know enough about > sound mixing to understand the instructions, particularly as every mixer > and instruction uses different terms. I don't want to mix anything. I > don't want multiple tracks. I just want a simple recording such as can be > done on any cheap tape player. > > So just now, I went right against the grain and tried in XP. It Just > Worked. No jargon. No incomprehensible instructions. You click record. > It records. You click stop, it stops. You click rewind, it rewinds. You > click play and it plays. Not very good quality, but hey, who cares. > > So I am going to have to tell Peter that he must record in Windows because > XP provides a simple recorder. :-(( > > And yes, I have tried to find a simple recorder in Linux. It doesn't seem > to exist. > > And if anyone tells me that Audacity is simple I shall go outside and > scream. :-( > > Lisi Krecord works for me (Opensuse 11.1, KDE 3.5, no pulseaudio) Cheers. Steve -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day for me (and Tux??). A good day for Bill?
Lisi wrote: > I have been trying for weeks now to record a simple file in Linux, and > getting > almost nowhere. (I recorded 2 words yesterday, but now can't do it again. > And anyhow, 2 words is not enough.) I just don't know enough about sound > mixing to understand the instructions, particularly as every mixer and > instruction uses different terms. I don't want to mix anything. I don't > want multiple tracks. I just want a simple recording such as can be done on > any cheap tape player. > > So just now, I went right against the grain and tried in XP. It Just Worked. > > No jargon. No incomprehensible instructions. You click record. It records. > > You click stop, it stops. You click rewind, it rewinds. You click play and > it plays. Not very good quality, but hey, who cares. > > So I am going to have to tell Peter that he must record in Windows because XP > provides a simple recorder. :-(( > > And yes, I have tried to find a simple recorder in Linux. It doesn't seem to > exist. > > And if anyone tells me that Audacity is simple I shall go outside and > scream. :-( Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 are not easy with sound recording, however, my recent install of 8.04.2 and updated, worked ok with gnome sound recorder. In these versions, pulseaudio sound server is used and I do not think that audacity works with that yet in those versions. However, ubuntu 9.04 works out of the box almost, with gnome sound recorder. I think I had to set the mixer options to include Mix and record Mix, and I think I needed to do that with 8.04.2 also, but in 8.04.2 the gnome sound recorder record level does not indicate, it records ok though. I record some bbc radio 7 stuff sometimes. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user #10391 Linux user #360648 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day for me (and Tux??). A good day for Bill?
On Wednesday 29 April 2009 17:15:53 David Bell wrote: > Lisi wrote: > > And yes, I have tried to find a simple recorder in Linux. It doesn't > > seem to exist. > > Hello, > > What about GNOME Sound Recorder? (Command line: gnome-sound-recorder) > > It is about as simple as Windows' "Sound Recorder". > > Cheers, > > David Bell Thanks for a potential life-line! I did in fact try to install gnome-sound-recorder, but it appears not to be in the repositories for either PCLinuxOS or Lenny. Still, if it would definitely be useful, I'll try to find the tar-ball and install it that way. (I was getting very discouraged. :-( Getting the microphone going had been a nightmare of impenetrable jargon.) But I had _much_ rather do it in Linux. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day for me (and Tux??). A good day for Bill?
Lisi wrote: > And yes, I have tried to find a simple recorder in Linux. It doesn't seem to > exist. Hello, What about GNOME Sound Recorder? (Command line: gnome-sound-recorder) It is about as simple as Windows' "Sound Recorder". Cheers, David Bell -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] A sad day for me (and Tux??). A good day for Bill?
I have been trying for weeks now to record a simple file in Linux, and getting almost nowhere. (I recorded 2 words yesterday, but now can't do it again. And anyhow, 2 words is not enough.) I just don't know enough about sound mixing to understand the instructions, particularly as every mixer and instruction uses different terms. I don't want to mix anything. I don't want multiple tracks. I just want a simple recording such as can be done on any cheap tape player. So just now, I went right against the grain and tried in XP. It Just Worked. No jargon. No incomprehensible instructions. You click record. It records. You click stop, it stops. You click rewind, it rewinds. You click play and it plays. Not very good quality, but hey, who cares. So I am going to have to tell Peter that he must record in Windows because XP provides a simple recorder. :-(( And yes, I have tried to find a simple recorder in Linux. It doesn't seem to exist. And if anyone tells me that Audacity is simple I shall go outside and scream. :-( Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --