Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
My netgear dg834 frequently loses the connection. These are AR7-chipset routers, they can work really well on certain types of long-lines apparently, but not for others, this sort of problem is normal depending on the combination of your line and the router/chipset in use... It is a pain to get OpenWRT working on a DG834Gv2/v3 but it does work (generally not including the wireless). BUT it CAN be done and DOES work for IPv6 reliably. You often have to patch or replace the bootloader on those units which is not easy, e.g. the Replace with PSPBOOT-1.4.0.4 fun... JTAG to fix/reflash, etc... I had this version running for ages:- http://openwrt.enyc.org.uk/openwrt/backfire-2011-07-30-r27838/ (But, since then, 10.3.1 has been properly released). Does WRT have QOS on it? Err.. You can do basically anything flash-space-permitting on openwrt. ;-). I saw various scripts for various QoS setups but never tried it myself. The old dg834 doesn't have it and it would be useful to tame errant users in this household :) Martin N --Simon -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
On 25/02/12 14:42, Chris Dennis wrote: Thanks for all the replies. I've just scored a D-Link DIR-615 router on eBay for £10, which I'll use for messing about with OpenWRT. Update: OpenWRT works on the DIR-615/D4 using the DIR-600/B2 firmware. I'll write up my notes when I get a chance. cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
Lo, At 11:21 04/03/2012, you wrote: My netgear dg834 frequently loses the connection. These are AR7-chipset routers, they can work really well on certain types of long-lines apparently, but not for others, this sort of problem is normal depending on the combination of your line and the router/chipset in use... It is a pain to get OpenWRT working on a DG834Gv2/v3 but it does work (generally not including the wireless). BUT it CAN be done and DOES work for IPv6 reliably. I am not technical enough to get things working if they are difficult. I also require wireless for the laptop,Touchpad and smartphone so that rules that out. You often have to patch or replace the bootloader on those units which is not easy, e.g. the Replace with PSPBOOT-1.4.0.4 fun... JTAG to fix/reflash, etc... I had this version running for ages:- http://openwrt.enyc.org.uk/openwrt/backfire-2011-07-30-r27838/ (But, since then, 10.3.1 has been properly released). Does WRT have QOS on it? Err.. You can do basically anything flash-space-permitting on openwrt. ;-). I saw various scripts for various QoS setups but never tried it myself. The old dg834 doesn't have it and it would be useful to tame errant users in this household :) I was more interested in how the dlink worked stability wise rather than the netgear. Also how difficult would it be to install an alternative firmware on it if it doesn't have QOS. thanks Martin N Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
On 25/02/12 18:19, Paul Tansom wrote: By the way, when I took a look at your write up (not read yet though) I noted your site. The concept of the photograph is a great one, I seem to have seen it before somewhere ;) Mine are Exmoor ponies :) http://www.aptanet.com/ My New Forest ponies were at Needs Ore Point, on the coast south of Beaulieu -- see http://www.streetmap.co.uk/place/Needs_Ore_Point_in_Hampshire_553611_08611.htm cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:37:43PM +, Chris Dennis wrote: Has anyone actually got a (modestly priced) IPv6 ADSL router working (i.e. IP6 to the ISP, and IP6 on the LAN)? I'm using the TG582n with AA, which seems to work with the pre-release firmware. Before that I was using that I was using modified firmware on a BT Voyager 2110: http://www.mcdonald.org.uk/andrew/voyager-ipv6/ That is probably more hacky than the openwrt solutions. :-) If I wasn't using the TG582n, I'd probably buy a Linksys (aka cheap cisco) router. There are several models at a range of prices: http://home.cisco.com/ipv6 -- Andrew McDonald Contact details: admcd.tel http://www.mcdonald.org.uk/andrew/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
Thanks for all the replies. I've just scored a D-Link DIR-615 router on eBay for £10, which I'll use for messing about with OpenWRT. If that doesn't work, the Linksys E-series look promising. Presumably all the manufacturers and ISPs will wake up to IPv6 eventually. Meanwhile I've taken Vic's advice to use a Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel. Learning how to use it was fun, and I've written a summary of the process at http://www.fbcs.co.uk/wp/archives/533 It's all a bit of a learning curve, but I'm finally catching up with the 21st century technology. cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis Fordingbridge, UK -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
** Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com [2012-02-25 14:43]: Thanks for all the replies. I've just scored a D-Link DIR-615 router on eBay for £10, which I'll use for messing about with OpenWRT. If that doesn't work, the Linksys E-series look promising. Presumably all the manufacturers and ISPs will wake up to IPv6 eventually. Meanwhile I've taken Vic's advice to use a Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel. Learning how to use it was fun, and I've written a summary of the process at http://www.fbcs.co.uk/wp/archives/533 It's all a bit of a learning curve, but I'm finally catching up with the 21st century technology. ** end quote [Chris Dennis] I'd be interested in how you get on with the D-Link router. I picked one up off Freecycle/Freegle a while back and am now running DD-WRT on it. I've not tried any IPv6 configuration yet, and I suspect I'll need a different image flashed on it when I do - hence I've been on the lookout for another one - I have one but it doesn't seem to work :( I've siged up with Sixxs for my tunnel, but not sorted out addresses yet. By the way, when I took a look at your write up (not read yet though) I noted your site. The concept of the photograph is a great one, I seem to have seen it before somewhere ;) Mine are Exmoor ponies :) http://www.aptanet.com/ -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 == Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Crawford House, Hambledon Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6NU -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
On 25/02/2012 18:19, Paul Tansom wrote: ** Chris Denniscgden...@btinternet.com [2012-02-25 14:43]: Thanks for all the replies. I've just scored a D-Link DIR-615 router on eBay for £10, which I'll use for messing about with OpenWRT. If that doesn't work, the Linksys E-series look promising. Presumably all the manufacturers and ISPs will wake up to IPv6 eventually. AIUI the firmware for the 615 Rev D4's does not support IPv6 in itself. However, it will happily pass IPv6 via WLAN to LAN/WAN and any bridges etc. you may or may not make. Unless, I'm missing something. I know for a clear fact both m0n0wall and routerboards work with any ISP doing PPPoX (IP6CP) will work with a majority of tunnels. I bought a couple of TP-Link WR841N (ver 7.2) from (of all places), Littlewoods for £32 quid. They run a branch of Open-WRT that is highly tunable. You need to tinker a little on the console to get IPv6 up and running, but once it is you can control aspects within the webui (firewall/QoS, RA's/DHCPv6 etc). Also works with SixXs AICCU IP41 tunnels. Another thing you can do, is ask Andrews Arnolds to provide you with an L2TP tunnel purchase 2 units of bandwith (a requirement). You should then get an allocation of /48. A lot of IPv6 devices (routerboards are for known fact) to accept native routed block (of 6) via L2TP tunnel. I still suggest a RouterBoard 750G or 450G. Winbox is a very pleasent annoyance once you get to learn it. This will also future proof you should you ever get native. I've used one on Andrews Arnold for gone a year and has not once failed me. It's also worked with a number of tunnel providers too. Ian -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
Hello, At 18:19 25/02/2012, you wrote: ** Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com [2012-02-25 14:43]: Thanks for all the replies. I've just scored a D-Link DIR-615 router on eBay for £10, which I'll use for messing about with OpenWRT. If that doesn't work, the Linksys E-series look promising. Presumably all the manufacturers and ISPs will wake up to IPv6 eventually. Meanwhile I've taken Vic's advice to use a Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel. Learning how to use it was fun, and I've written a summary of the process at http://www.fbcs.co.uk/wp/archives/533 It's all a bit of a learning curve, but I'm finally catching up with the 21st century technology. ** end quote [Chris Dennis] I'd be interested in how you get on with the D-Link router. I picked one up off Freecycle/Freegle a while back and am now running DD-WRT on it. How stable is this router? My netgear dg834 frequently loses the connection. Does WRT have QOS on it? The old dg834 doesn't have it and it would be useful to tame errant users in this household :) Martin N Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
On 21 February 2012 19:37, Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com wrote: Hello Folks Has anyone actually got a (modestly priced) IPv6 ADSL router working (i.e. IP6 to the ISP, and IP6 on the LAN)? I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap router support ipv6? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6 -- Philip Stubbs -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
On 22/02/12 09:12, Philip Stubbs wrote: On 21 February 2012 19:37, Chris Denniscgden...@btinternet.com wrote: Hello Folks Has anyone actually got a (modestly priced) IPv6 ADSL router working (i.e. IP6 to the ISP, and IP6 on the LAN)? I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap router support ipv6? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6 Yes, that would probably work, although I was hoping for an off-the-shelf solution. And then there's the question of which: OpenWRT or DD-WRT. Opinion on the web as to which is better or more up-to-date seems divided. cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
Hi, On Wed, Feb 22 at 09:12, Philip Stubbs wrote: I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap router support ipv6? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6 OpenWrt info is at http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/ipv6.overview btw. Well I've got DD-WRT on a WNR3500L at home and finding IPv6 enabled software images has proven problematic. Despite being marketed as an opensource router the 3500 requires too many binary blobs with poorly defined interfaces. DD-WRT's IPv6 support also feels patchy, OpenWrt's documentation looks better but I've yet to try it. There are OpenWrt images for the 3500 despite it being listed as unsupported but none of them have IPv6. So I'm wondering about a Netgear WNDR3700 but need to find Atheros based V2 hardware rather than the Broadcom based V3 which is another binary blob nightmare apparently. Don't you love manufacturate who change the entire product chipset and don't change the product designation. -- Bob Dunlop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
On 22/02/12 09:38, Bob Dunlop wrote: Hi, On Wed, Feb 22 at 09:12, Philip Stubbs wrote: I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap router support ipv6? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6 OpenWrt info is at http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/ipv6.overview btw. Well I've got DD-WRT on a WNR3500L at home and finding IPv6 enabled software images has proven problematic. Despite being marketed as an opensource router the 3500 requires too many binary blobs with poorly defined interfaces. DD-WRT's IPv6 support also feels patchy, OpenWrt's documentation looks better but I've yet to try it. There are OpenWrt images for the 3500 despite it being listed as unsupported but none of them have IPv6. So I'm wondering about a Netgear WNDR3700 but need to find Atheros based V2 hardware rather than the Broadcom based V3 which is another binary blob nightmare apparently. Don't you love manufacturate who change the entire product chipset and don't change the product designation. Those are the sorts of problems that I'm hoping to avoid. I'll have to do some more research... cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com wrote: On 22/02/12 09:38, Bob Dunlop wrote: Hi, On Wed, Feb 22 at 09:12, Philip Stubbs wrote: I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap router support ipv6? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6 OpenWrt info is at http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/ipv6.overview btw. Well I've got DD-WRT on a WNR3500L at home and finding IPv6 enabled software images has proven problematic. Despite being marketed as an opensource router the 3500 requires too many binary blobs with poorly defined interfaces. DD-WRT's IPv6 support also feels patchy, OpenWrt's documentation looks better but I've yet to try it. There are OpenWrt images for the 3500 despite it being listed as unsupported but none of them have IPv6. So I'm wondering about a Netgear WNDR3700 but need to find Atheros based V2 hardware rather than the Broadcom based V3 which is another binary blob nightmare apparently. Don't you love manufacturate who change the entire product chipset and don't change the product designation. Those are the sorts of problems that I'm hoping to avoid. I'll have to do some more research... cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK If you have a spare machine which is used as a firewall you could put the modem in bridge mode and use PPPoE on the Linux firewall. Entanet support PPPoE connections. Regards Wayne -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
Part of my motivation for doing this is to learn about IPv6 on the internet and on the LAN (including wifi) so that I can set it up for clients eventually. So using a fairly standard commercially available router would be preferable. Entanet support PPPoE connections. That's good to know. cheers Chris You could also terminate a (free) v6 tunnel from Hurricane Electric on a internal machine and use that to deal with v6 on the LAN. That's the way I started playing with it. Wayne -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
Routerboards. Linitx.com sell them. Any alixboard running m0n0wall will do it too. Routerboard 750 under 40 quid. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com To: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 7:37 pm Hello Folks Has anyone actually got a (modestly priced) IPv6 ADSL router working (i.e. IP6 to the ISP, and IP6 on the LAN)? I bought a Technicolor/Thompson TG582N on the basis that Andrews and Arnold are using it for IP6, but it seems that I didn't read the small print: it only works with specially upgraded firmware that is only available from AA. So that's going back to broadbandstuff.co.uk who advertised it as 'IPv6 ready'. My ISP, Entanet, offers IPv6, and suggests some routers (http://noc.enta.net/ipv6-over-xdsl/) but they're all expensive Cisco ones. The Billion 7800N apparently works but costs £120. There are also some D-Link ones such as the DIR-815 at about £65 which ought to do the job. Does anyone have any recommendations? cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
Routerboards. Linitx.com sell them. Any alixboard running m0n0wall will do it too. Routerboard 750 under 40 quid. Monowall works well with the HE tunnels too. Wayne -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
