Re: [Hardhats-members] Wiki problems?

[John Leo Zimmer]

Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> I just added some of the answer about the Broker to the CPRS installation 
> section on the wiki.  I found if I previewed what I edited, it disappeared 
> when I went back to edit, but if I just did the edit and saved it, it worked 
> fine.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?  I am using Mozilla and 
> Debian.
 
Nancy, I just checked. There was a page of vandalism hidden in yours.
I'm not sure that caused the glitch. But it's working fine now...
sans spam.

By the way, when adding a chunk of dialog, you want to start each new line
with a space, including blank lines. That preserves the line-by-line
formatting. Without the leading spaces lines will be merged.

jlz


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Sample patient data and Import facility

[John Leo Zimmer]

From: Mike Schrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Sample patient data and Import facility

> I should also note that I had to edit a few other things, like when 
> Excel dropped leading zeros from birthdates and ssn's.

Rather than Excel, I used a MUMPS routine to assemble the fields from a
printout produced by our billing/scheduling software, HealthPro. It worked
smoothly (I also did have a bug in formating the DOB field.)

jlz


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Scanning and pdf issues.

[John Leo Zimmer]

Kevin,
I just ran a couple of tests using Open Office:
For a 22 page (plus a few images) Word.doc with the following results:

document.doc432Kb
document.odt316Kb
document.pdf558Kb (default)
document.pdf392Kb (compression to 60%, no appreciable loss)
document.pdf341Kb (compressed to 30%, no loss seen. Images not compressed)

These are manipulations of a Word document, not of scanned text.
I would guess that your scanner is producing very large images and that it may
be possible to produce better compression of text after OCR than of raw images.

Regards,
jlz

The tempter approached and said to him. "If you are the Son of God,
command that these stones become loaves of bread." Mat 4:3 

-- Original Message ---
From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Hardhats Sourceforge 
Sent: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:12:14 -0400
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Scanning and pdf issues.

> I am using the software that came with my hp scanjet 4400c.  When I
> scan a single page, it tells me that the B&W image has a file size of
> 115k.  I then specify to save as .pdf file.  The size of the .pdf 
> file is the found on the disk to be 3,201 kb!
> 
> What kind of overhead problem am I dealing with?
> Are there different levels of compression withing the .pdf?
> Would a different scan-to-pdf program be more effecient?
> 
> Can anyone else give me data on their resulting pdf file sizes?



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Texas ESBD Procurement Opportunity

[John Leo Zimmer]

I for one. Sorry about that.

<http://esbd.tbpc.state.tx.us/1380/bid_show.cfm?bidid=61574>

If it scrambles again, Google: texas tech vista foia


-- Original Message ---
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Sent: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:13:04 -0400
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Texas ESBD  Procurement Opportunity

> Anybody else having trouble with that link?
> 
> On Sunday 16 October 2005 06:21 pm, John Leo Zimmer wrote:
> The Texas Tech University Health Science Center seeks proposals to:
> 
> "Develop and implement a campus-wide, FOIA (Freedom of Information 
> Act) VistA
> (Veterans Health Information Systems and Technology Architecture)
>  base, EMR solution."
> 
> Upload Date: 2005-10-11 12:47:11
> <http://esbd.tbpc.state.tx.us/1380/bid_show.?bidid=61574>
> 
> Read the RFP
> 
> Look alive...
> This is a big one.
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[Hardhats-members] Turning off CPRS splash screen and et cetera

[John Leo Zimmer]

How about you folks holding a workshop (would take more than a tutorial, me
thinks) at the January meeting on the structure and function of the CPRS client?

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[Hardhats-members] Texas ESBD Procurement Opportunity

[John Leo Zimmer]

The Texas Tech University Health Science Center seeks proposals to:

"Develop and implement a campus-wide, FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) VistA
(Veterans Health Information Systems and Technology Architecture) base, EMR
solution."

Upload Date: 2005-10-11 12:47:11


Read the RFP

Look alive...
This is a big one.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] The Great Software Naming Contest

[John Leo Zimmer]

I have a couple of ideas, but I'd almost want to establish ownership before
running them up the flagpole.   :-(

johnleo

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Re: [Hardhats-members] perpetually deferred perfection trumps progress every time

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: perpetually deferred perfection trumps progress every time

> On Oct 12, 2005, at 3:56 PM, John Leo Zimmer wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if Mike Leavitt has ever heard of VOE?
> >
> > jlz
> >
> >
> >
> > "Look alive, here comes a buzzard."
> >  -- Pogo
> >
> 
> I want to know if VOE was the inspiration for your sig file.

I think this one may be another, more pointed way of saying the same thing.

The tempter approached and said to him. "If you are the Son of God,
command that these stones become loaves of bread." Mat 4:3 

I speculate that the trouble with VOE in West Virginia may have been a failure
to value the VistA healthcare community more than the "loaves of bread." We
hope to avoid that error in Iowa.

regards,
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[Hardhats-members] perpetually deferred perfection trumps progress every time

[John Leo Zimmer]

I wonder if Mike Leavitt has ever heard of VOE?

jlz



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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

[John Leo Zimmer]

Not yet. Ogg is the wiki's preferred audio format, but ours is not yet
configured for it.

jlz

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-- Original Message ---
From: Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 15:57:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

> It is 17 megs.  Is there a way to put it on the wiki?



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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

[John Leo Zimmer]

From: "Chris Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Nancy has the wave file.  What is an .ogg file?  What reads it?  The 
> Sony compression file on the memory stick is very small, but nobody 
> else has a reader for it.  There are other formats and I have a 
> translator that will reduce the size, but I'm  not sure of the 
> quality impact.
> 
>Best wishes;  Chris
> 
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "John Leo Zimmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  
> > From: "Chris Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > No notes, but I did record it.  Somebody want the wave file?
> >
> > I have it as a .ogg file, 15Meg vs 70+Meg in wave. Still a pretty large
> > attachment for email.

"Ogg Vorbis is a completely open, patent-free, professional audio encoding and
streaming technology with all the benefits of Open Source. ..."
<http://www.vorbis.com/>

It works well on my Palm Pilot (along with mp3's). but not on the iPod, AFAIK.

From: "Peter Bodtke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Any chance of converting this file into MP3 format? With a low bit 
> rate I suspect the file size could be reduced significantly.
>

I will do that later today when I get back to my linux box.
I use Audacity. The conversion and cut / paste is trivially easy. I have not
done anything with manipulating bit rates, etc.

jlz



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Station Numbers for institutions in VOE

[John Leo Zimmer]

How about a more arbitrary number... such as a the $H of christening?
It could then be certified and registered with a central repository... 
Open Forum perhaps? Conflicts resolved by adding a second here or there.

That number would remain unique for the next 10,000 years or whatever the
lifespan of $H.

jlz

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 -- Pogo


-- Original Message ---
From: "steven mcphelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:41:01 -0400
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Station Numbers for institutions  in VOE

> How do you consider a phone number as a unique identifier?  It is unique
> today.  But somebody else could have that number tomorrow.
>


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Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

[John Leo Zimmer]

NOT:
> 
> 
> 
BUT:


stupid machines

jlz




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Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

[John Leo Zimmer]

The point of the NPR story was that while "The city was forced to cancel an
estimated $3.5 billion worth of events" the hotel / convention / entertainment
infrastructure all escaped relatively intact and is (or will soon be) ready to
go back to work.
 



-- Original Message ---
From: "Chris Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
>You may have a point here.  I am sure that the VA would let us 
> have the first floor of their building near the dome.  It is just 
> all of those extension cords to being in our own power and the 100 
> miles of CAT 5 cable that would be required that might be a problem. 
>  New Orleans will be the land of deals for a while.
> 
> But it would be an interesting and bold statement none the less.

It might also be a way to find a venue with maximum willingness to be flexible
with size of group, ability to accomadate us in a single hotel, etc. By the
end of January we should have no problem with things like communications.

jlz


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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: "Chris Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 16:32:44 -0700

> No notes, but I did record it.  Somebody want the wave file?

I have it as a .ogg file, 15Meg vs 70+Meg in wave. Still a pretty large
attachment for email.

jlz


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[Hardhats-members] Re: VPE

[John Leo Zimmer]

Ok, it DOES WORK, but only when I put the correct stuff in the brackets.



{Picky damn machinery.}




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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: VPE test

[John Leo Zimmer]

Thanks Greg,
Excuse me while I test this:

<http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.?title=Victory_Programmer_Environment_(VPE)_Installation>

jlz

-- Original Message ---
From: Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:05:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: VPE

> I know it's a kluge, but I've never had trouble with wrapping of URLs
> if I enclose them in angle brackets when using a wb interface. In Apple
> mail, I just copy and paste.
> 
> --- John Leo Zimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.?title=Victory_Programmer_Environment_(VPE)_Installation
> > 
> > (watch the wrap, please)



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[Hardhats-members] Re: VPE

[John Leo Zimmer]

BTW there is a newly minted section of the Wiki with screen shots of VPE
installation. (With link to the HardHats site which remains the gold standard.
See Greg Kreis' superb manual)

http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.?title=Victory_Programmer_Environment_(VPE)_Installation

(watch the wrap, please)

jlz

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 -- Pogo


-- Original Message ---
From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 06:46:32 -0600
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Regsitration GUI (File/data descriptions)

> There is a package called VPE that REALLY helps when exploring files 
> and fields. It is a deluxe interface to the data dictionary.



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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

[John Leo Zimmer]

I plan to, If I make the call and the phone works, etc.

I have one good effort from a couple weeks ago: 
Brian Lord on his Katrina efforts and Cynthia Wark about the "release" of VOE.

I'd like to post the .ogg files to the wiki, but that is not working yet.

jlz

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-- Original Message ---
From: "Alberto Odor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:59:28 -0600
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

> This might have been asked before, but is someone recording these 
> calls?
> 
> Alberto
> 
> -Mensaje original-
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Maury
> Pepper
> Enviado el: Jueves, 29 de Septiembre de 2005 10:51 p.m.
> Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Asunto: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call
> 
> VistA Community Call Friday at NOON EDT.
> 
> TOPIC: WorldVistA Version 4 and the October Development Meeting 
> (continued)
> 
> DATE:  Friday, September 30
> TIME:  12:00 Noon EDT
> DURATION:  1 hour.
> 
> CONFERENCE CALL DIAL IN NUMBERS
>USA  866-483-4159
>Outside USA  706-634-0093
> 
> Conference ID Number:  5361308
> 
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> Thanks to Hewlett-Packard and Sharon Mobley
> for providing the teleconferencing facilities.
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and Image filetypes

[John Leo Zimmer]

I mean are there some xxx.abs files hanging around somewhere in VistA?

jlz

-- Original Message ---
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Sent: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:48:21 -0600
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and Image filetypes

> A sample image? I'm not sure what you mean here.
> 
> Kevin
> 



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Re: [Hardhats-members] (File/data descriptions)

[John Leo Zimmer]

BTW,
I've been getting around to asking about ERdiagrams in this regard.
There is a lot of info in that directory, especially for those of us who are 
visual sorts.

They are difficult to use off the FOIA ftp site because they are in 
<> single page .pdf files. {except for one labeled IB which has a 48 
page version that I have been playing with today. It's going to make a 5' 
square chunk of wallpaper when I get it all together.} 

My question: is there a utility to print a large .pdf file in 8 1/2 x 11 
tiles? Or other pre-formated versions?

How were these things assembled in the first place?

thanks in advance,
jlz

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-- Original Message ---
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Regsitration GUI (File/data descriptions)

> Are you familiar with the Data Dictionary in Fileman? You can view th
> definition for any file by choose Data Dictionary Utilities and then
> List File Attributes.



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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and Image filetypes

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:18:03 -0600

> 
> P.S. how do we know that .ABS is a TGA format? I looked on the 
> internet, and it doesn't look like .ABS is a standard extension for 
> a graphic file.

Kevin,
Do you have a sample you can send? 
I'd tweak it a bit... or tweak its bits.
 
regards,
jlz


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Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

[John Leo Zimmer]

From: Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> How do you prevent leakage of private information?  Does it have
> cryptography build into the mail?
> 


Mailman does not itself support encryption, at least not in the versions that
I used in my office ten years ago. Someone else will answer whether there are
more robust capabilities now. 

However, 

1. MailMan has been used behind the VA's firewall... actually over their
secure network. I have used it primarily for intraoffice communications in my
practice. Crude, simple, text-only messaging can be VERY useful there and
only as secure as the network... as is the CPRS GUI.


BUT:
2. Having access to the MailMan code makes encryption available with
relatively simple hooks into the operation MUMPS code.

2b. In 1994 I was using MailMan to send text and images (patient photos)
between home and the office and Mercer University with PGP encryption and PGP
ASCII wrapper for the images... also UUENCODE/DECODE. It all worked because
the MailMan source code is there to be seen and played with... a great way to
learn, IMHO.

jlz


PS: 1994 was a looong time ago in Moore's-law years. Patient privacy and the
need for security of medical records predates HIPPA and all the foaming at the
mouth it generates.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: "Usha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>in
To: 
Sent: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:33:13  0530
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

> Can't it be used to mail messages to Internet mail servers like 
> yahoo, etc. which people can access from anywhere?
> 
>

It can, indeed.
If you putty over to: openforum.worldvista.org
you'll find VistA running under GT.M as a mail server with capabilities to
send and receive across the Internet. 
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE - VistA Community Meeting - changed

[John Leo Zimmer]

oops!


Thanks, for the heads-up, Maury
I have Orbitz in another window and checked Hardhats <> before making the 
reservation.
 
regards,
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[Hardhats-members] VOE "DELIVERED TO PHYSICIAN OFFICES"

[John Leo Zimmer]

NEWSPEAK


I got the flames out of my system a couple weeks ago.

I do not understand the problem with obtaining IHS modules for VOE. Why would
the be restricted now if they are going to become part of a public domain
project tomorrow? I very much doubt <> of us have enough clout to explain
open development to the federal government.

So grandpaZ is going to become a vendor.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Synopsis of VistA Community Call for 09/16/2005

[John Leo Zimmer]

I recorded Friday's call. Brian Lord's narrative of the Katrina project is
about 5 minutes. And makes me proud to be a Hardhat. I tried to load the .ogg
file to the Wiki but it refuses to cooperate. That file is a couple Meg. And I
would be happy to share it... or put on the Wiki if that can be fixed. It
advertizes preference for .ogg sound files.

The rest of the hour is equally interesting... partly for the contrast it
provides between CMS and Hardhats. That makes an .ogg file of about 14 Meg. ;-(

The Friday conference is becomming more interesting all the time.

jlz


Colorless green...
Healthcar...


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[Hardhats-members] VOE version of CPT on AMA site

[John Leo Zimmer]

FYI

https://catalog.ama-assn.org/Catalog/product/product_detail.jsp?productId=prod64


ITEM #  DESCRIPTION LIST PRICE  AMA MEMBER PRICE
Single User License $79.00  $69.95  
Network 2-10 Users  $225.00 $195.00 
Network 11-20 Users $249.95 $239.95 
Network 21-25 Users $299.95 $289.95 


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RE: [Hardhats-members] I'm going to just say this...about FOIA

[John Leo Zimmer]

I am glad we have Greg Woodhouse writing code within the VA. I'm a veteran and
a citizen so I'm pretty sure I'm better off in both respects with his
contributions in our software. I am also glad to have him here on Hardhats
over the years. Always worth reading. Although he is sometimes over my head.

I'm even more pleased to have Cameron Schlehuber handling my FOIA requests.
He doesn't "wholeheardedly endorse it"; he just applies it. 

And society benefits.

jlz


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[Hardhats-members] Re: MyHealtheVet server

[John Leo Zimmer]

From: Joseph Dal Molin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> As far as we know this isn't available through FOIA.

[jlz] And do we know why not?

> 
> Usha wrote:
> > Then I realized that we do not have the HealtheVet server installed on 
> > our server.
> > 
> > Where can we download it? And how can the HealtheVet server be 
> > installed? Thanks in advance for the reply.
>

[j|z] Usha, what's the client like?


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[Hardhats-members] Wiki additions: [was: web evaluation tool]

[John Leo Zimmer]

I added this link last night to a new section of the WorldVistA Wiki in
response to Matthew King's query. Another section should probably be added
with a more general emphasis... But we should be carefull to avoid too many
empty slots.

How about a FAQ for "VistA Myth vs Fact"?
FHM (Frequently Heard Misinformation)


-- Original Message ---
From: "John Leo Zimmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:52:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] web evaluation tool


> 
> So here is a new Wiki page (tabula rasa for the moment) for 
> Community Health Centers: (You may need to cut and past the full link)
> 
>
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.?title=Main_Page#Collaboration_Tools
> 
> Regards,
> JohnLeo Zimmer, MD, MA, ABFP
> Council Bluffs Community Health Centers



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Re: [Hardhats-members] web evaluation tool

[John Leo Zimmer]

Matthew,
Community Health Centers here in Iowa/Nebraska are on a similar quest to 
find or develop an EHR tailored to our particular needs. I have a 
longstanding bias toward VistA and have recently been blessed/cursed with a 
mandate to move forward with an installation here in Council Bluffs. I dream 
of our work becoming a reference implementation for the rest of the 10-20 
other sites in our two states... and then on to world domination. :-)

-- Original Message ---
From: "Matthew King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Linda Gorey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Manuel Ferreiro" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The Community Health Centers in AZ are forming the Arizona Integrated
> Network (AIN) to formally integrate information technology services,
> financial management, and clinical initiatives. We are have included
> VistA Office in our EHR evaluation. Last Wednesday we met in Page, AZ
> and I was shocked when one of the lead collaborators to the CMS project
> (by conference call) basically concluded her VistA product 
> evaluation by saying she couldn't recommend it. Her reasons included 
> poor interfacing capabilities, out-dated language (M) and missing 
> modules needed for community health centers. She also believed the 
> costs to implement and support it would pretty much offset any 
> software cost savings. (She did say it was wonderful for the VA.)

[jlz] Although confirmation is very difficult to obtain, the CMS sponsored 
development of VistA Office for West Virginia CHC's seems to have suffered 
from inadequate input from medical providers. Whether that trap can be 
avoided here in Council Bluffs remains for us to determine. 

It is clear to me that the real contribution from the VA is NOT VistA so 
much as the methods developed within the VA bureaucracy. We have a better 
shot at succeeding if we concentrate on that open development model and grow 
our own expertise from within... rather than relying on CMS... or anyone 
else to gift us with some sort of turn-key solution.

> .
> .
> During the discussions this became clear:
> 
> 1) Everybody has an opinion of VistA, of most of it based on
> incomplete or faulty information.

[jlz] The AAFP EHR list is particularly useless in this regard.

> 2) Commercial Vendors have a lot of influence on the decision-makers
> in my health-care setting.

[jlz] It is tempting to conclude that CMS is being lobbied or pressured by 
the vendors. Real information may or may not dissipate that impression. 
Meanwhile it may depend on how one feels about the insurance industry or the 
drug industry. Generally, I find CHC doctors a bit radicalized by the close-
up experience of serving the medically under-served. We are generally ready 
to believe that something is being screwed up behind the scenes.

> 3) Our IT experts really don't understand Mumps or Open Source
> philosophy or software. They either feel threatened or that it is not
> reliable or compatible enough to run in our health-care environment.

[jlz] The knowledge to make VistA work... including adapting it to many 
different settings, is available from WorldVistA. But there is much more to 
do. and to learn.

regards,
jlz


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Re: [Hardhats-members] web evaluation tool

[John Leo Zimmer]

Matthew,
There is certainly room in the WorldVistA Wiki for the sort of discussion 
you are seeking. As you point out the need is great. Community Health 
Centers form a special category somewhere between the huge bureacuracy of 
the Veteran's Administration and the many flavors of private practice in 
this country.

So here is a new Wiki page (tabula rasa for the moment) for Community Health 
Centers: (You may need to cut and past the full link)

http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.?
title=Main_Page#Collaboration_Tools

Regards,
JohnLeo Zimmer, MD, MA, ABFP
Council Bluffs Community Health Centers

-- Original Message ---
From: "Matthew King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Hardhats-members] web evaluation tool
> 
> I wonder if we could start a Wiki that (non-techie) decision-makers can
> ask and receive accurate information regarding VistA and its flavors.
> Maybe compatibility issues, support cost issues and the like can be
> addressed. Ultimately, this would save a ton of work and help straighten
> out all the misconceptions flying around.




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[Hardhats-members] Free EHR software is on hold

[John Leo Zimmer]

http://www.governmenthealthit.com/article90704-09-09-05-Web

Dr. Karen Bell, division director of the Quality Improvement Group at HHS’ 
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, told a conference audience that 
VistA-Office “is undergoing a review right now by the secretary’s office.… 
You can’t download anything” now.



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Objects vs. Types and NL

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:15:54 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Objects vs. Types and NL

> > 
> > On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 22:00 -0500, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > 
> > [KSB] <...snip...>
> > 
> > > I also have been interested in natural language processing.  There is 
> > > something about it that makes one think that it should be easy to 
> > > create a parser etc, and from there make a step towards understanding.
> > 
> > [KSB] This brings back memories of when I was a graduate student in
> > computer science with an interest in artificial intelligence, back in
> > mid 1970s.
> > 
> > Consider:
> > 
> >   Time flies like an arrow.
> >   Banana files like a peach.
> > 
> > You can't parse it without considering semantics, including metaphors.
> > Natural language processing, outside of restricted domains, is hard.  I
> > went on to smaller challenges.
> > 
> > -- Bhaskar
> 
>Time flies like an arrow
>Fruit flies like a banana
>Paint flies like an artist.
>Time flies like a stopwatch timekeeper.
 Zip flies. Like, men, it's not polite to leave the barndoor open.
 Tie flies like a fisherman.
 Thai Air flies to Bangkok.

jlz

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Objects vs. Types

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Objects vs. Types

> Incidentally, I think Chomsky accomplished a lot more with that example
> than he (at least initially) intended. It was sopposed to be an example
> of a syntactically well-formed sentence that is otherwise 
> nonsensical. But is there more to it than that? While we do not 
> often speak of sleeping "furiously", wse do speak of sleeping 
> "quietly". But "furiously" and "quietly" can hardly be said to be semantically
> unrelated. Do ideas sleep? Well, this is certainly not idiomatic in
> English, but it is not too much of a stretch to imagine what a dormant
> (or sleeping) idea might be. Indeed, the whole point of this message 
> is that there seems to be a dormant idea somehow implicit in that choice
> of examples!
 
Well, dormant in <> certainly.

Enlightenment remains elusive, 
but always worth the quest.
I'm always thankful for the variety and depth of whatever it is that makes
Hardhats so compelling.
Thanks,
grandpaZ

Healthcare, a human right
AND
"Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Objects vs. Types

[John Leo Zimmer]

"Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
 -- G Woodhouse





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[Hardhats-members] Medsphere's CPRS, etc.

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: Todd Berman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:33:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Transferring binary data with RPCBroker?
.
.
> Free/Open software *REQUIRES* an Open development model. Nothing should
> happen behind a closed door. Because once it does, the license is
> unimportant. At least, that is how I feel.
.
.

[jlz] Just as "public domain" means nothing until it's public. 
(I wonder if CMS is under water somewhere on the Gulf coast?)

.
. 
> That is basically a longwinded way of saying "I don't know the dates,
> its 'above my pay-grade', but I do know that we are committed to 
> doing it, in a way that makes sense from day 1, and we are very much 
> interested in being reactive to the needs in the future."
> 
> Does that answer your question?

[jlz] It answers some of mine. Thanks Todd.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] transfer-binary-data-via-RPCBroker

[John Leo Zimmer]

Mike, 
Are you using openfiler?
Anyone here?
Looks like it should fit in very nicely.
Of course, I'm a sucker for "spam" myself.

If not this tool, what should OpenVistA use for image functions?
I am not just concerned about display on a terminal, but pretty printing for 
paper output 
as well. 

regards,
johnleo


-- Original Message ---
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Sent: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:31:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] transfer-binary-data-via-RPCBroker

> On 9/4/05, Todd Berman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > VistA Imaging requires the use of a windows filestore, using UNC paths
> > as far as I recall (with login/pass).
> > 
> > --Todd
> 
> http://www.openfiler.org/
> 
> Openfiler is a powerful, intuitive browser-based network storage
> 


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[Hardhats-members] transfer-binary-data-via-RPCBroker

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 10:59:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Bitwise operators in GT.M?

> Maury,
> 
> I understood Zimmer's point.  But I think it might introduce a level
> of complexity that would not be needed if I converted it myself. 
> Also, it would lock the code into the linux platform.

[jlz] uuencode works everywhere. PGP/GnuPG ascii wrapper would work, too.

> But your point about whether this is the best approach for
> transferring binary data is well taken.  

[jlz] Kevin, How does VistA Imaging transfer images into CPRS?

regards,
grandpaZ


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Bitwise operators in GT.M?

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 22:43:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Bitwise operators in GT.M?

> Jim (or anyone else)
> 
> I am thinking about writting an UUEncoder in M, 
> 


Kevin,
Back in 1994 I used UUENCODE/UUDECODE to send images (and other binary files)
via MailMan.  This was/is in MSM under MS-DOS. (I still have all that here 
on my laptop.) My routine wrote the mail message out to DOS and then shelled 
out to DOS to do the deed. (It was interesting in that MSM halted everything 
it was doing while the DOS UUENCODE routine did it's thing. :-)

I think I would do the same today in GT.M and let Linux do the dirty work.

>From ^ACIZUU (Note the date.)

ACIZUU ;JLZ/fhs;UUENCODE/DECODE; [ 06/09/94  7:31 AM ]
 ;;3.0;Image Manager;;May 06, 1994
.
.
.
UUDECODE(FILE) ;decode .UUE
 S TEST=$ZOS(8,"D:\MSM\ACIZ\TMP")
 I TEST'="" Q "FAILED TO FIND DIRECTORY "_TEST
 S TEST=$ZC(SHELLDOS,"UUDECODE "_FILE)
 Q "UUDECODE DONE "_TEST
 ;
UUENCODE(FILE) ;encode .BMP
 S TEST=$ZOS(8,"D:\MSM\ACIZ\TMP")
 I TEST'="" Q "FAILED TO FIND DIRECTORY "_TEST
 S TEST=$ZC(SHELLDOS,"UUENCODE -XT "_FILE)
 Q "UUENCODE DONE "_TEST
.
.
.
jlz





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RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

[John Leo Zimmer]

> However, the biggest volume of POWER architecture chips may not be 
> Mac computers.  I understand that the Nintendo Gamecube may use a POWER
> chip.  Can someone confirm this?
> 

*  IBM PowerPC, 486 MHz
* ATI graphics
* 40 MB of total RAM 
* 8 cm optical drive
* (optional) 10/100 Ethernet 

can run linux
http://www.gc-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Shared lab data/We DO Care

[John Leo Zimmer]

I see two sides to this issue.
On the one hand a patient seeking care from any provider needs all available
information readily at hand there with that provider. (Unless the patient has
an interest in concealing something from the provider... That happens, but
that is no longer healthcare in my humble opinion, it's now fraud, perhaps.) I
think that the act of seeking care... in any setting should release all
available information to that provider automatically, in toto, if only
that could be achieved.


On the other hand... The data repository that might make such an outcome
possible should not allow any other agent unlimited access to that data. The
state may have legitimate interest in knowing how many diabetics live in New
York City... or even in a particular zip code. But the identity of an
individual citizen with diabetes. No If he presents himself to a doctor, 
Yes.

(Yeah, I know that's not the way it's done.) 

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Medical Economics Lettters the Editor

[John Leo Zimmer]

That's  Mendelson, MD 
Rockville, MD 
He's an experienced fellow originally from Washington State. Was long ago a 
member of MUG. I last saw him in Atlanta with the CDC or Emory while his 
wife finished some program she was in. He knows what he's talking about.

> need to track down Marin Mendelson as he may be a neighbor of  mine. 
>  Mark Anderson is still at it.
> 
> http://www.memag.com/memag/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=174456
> -- 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS: GET OFF THE POT.

[John Leo Zimmer]

I mislead with the term "open source".  Let me stay with lower case 
term "open development" to describe what I believe is the core innovation of 
DHCP/VistA and that dates far back in the misty past. Before Linus Torvalds 
started. 

The movement that produced DHCP was essentially the same sort of open 
collaboration among users, developers, and deep thinkers that we have been 
blessed to see replicated in the development of Linux, Apache, etc. etc.

Legally, VOE is public domain. Just fancied up FOIA. That is clear from both 
the CMS website and from WorldVistA's description of the VVSO (For its own 
work WorldVistA has chosen the GPL for any enhancements that it adds to 
VistA. That work <> be technically open source.)

I assert that each FOIA VistA release is a dead artifact of the living 
development process within the VA community that produced it. And it's pretty 
lifeless out in the rest of the world until our community gets to work on it.

I am anxious for us to get on with this process, that's all.




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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS: GET OFF THE POT.

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:13:40 -0500
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS: GET OFF THE POT.

> How could someone contribute to VOE (besides being an alpha tester), 
> unless they work for DAOU? Am I missing something?

I would say you are missing the whole point of an open source development 
effort such as produced VistA in the first place. But I assume you've been 
here long enough to understand that VistA is the product of the community 
within which it evolved. (How long have you worked in/for/with the VA?)

I  CMS to be clueless about this. I don't know much about DAOU except 
that someone there prefers a closed development methodology that needs to 
reach whatever conclusion it can... so that the community (this one that is 
sitting here on the runway burning fuel, waiting) can get to work on 
continuing that evolution.

Is that what you're missing? That would surprise me.

gra'paZ
Feeling old today and hoping to see the promised land before I die.
No, I'm not Moses either.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] CMS: GET OFF THE POT.

[John Leo Zimmer]

I will let others who know me answer that. 
 
You might try a search for "Zimmer" in the old Hardhats archives. 
 
 
-- Original Message --- 
From: Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
Sent: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:00:07 -0400 
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CMS: GET OFF THE POT. 
 
> for gods sake. 
>  
> What contribution are you making to the project? 
>  
> Ruben 
 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] CMS: GET OFF THE POT.

[John Leo Zimmer]

A month's slippage is one thing,  
But an indefinite slippage while God only knows what little problems are 
fixed is not open source development.  
 
I am not a professional programmer myself, but I think I have enough 
expertise to be told the truth about our current situation. 
 
jlz 
 
I AM SHOUTING  
because quiet waiting,  
polite inquiry,  
patience  
has produced NO INFORMATION. 
 
 
-- Original Message --- 
From: Jason Essington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
Sent: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:34:35 -0600 
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CMS: GET OFF THE POT. 
 
> I too am patiently waiting for VistaOffice, but as a programmer, I   
> realize that deadlines slip. 
. 
. 
.  
> I do agree that it would be nice to have a little status update, but  
>  I don't think that shouting about it is really necessary :-) 
 


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[Hardhats-members] CMS: GET OFF THE POT.

[John Leo Zimmer]

We are now in the LAST week of August.  
  
Not only did VOE not see the light of day on August 1.  
  
There is NO EXPLANATION of the issues which still hold up this  
supposedly "open source" / "public domain" effort.  
  
WHERE IS VISTA OFFICE???  
  
WHAT IS THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HOLDUP?  
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SNAFU?  
  
WHY NOT RELEASE <<>> WHATEVER IS ON HAND?  
WHY NOT RELEASE <<>> WHATEVER IS THE PROBLEM?...  
SO THAT THE SUPPOSEDLY <<>> DEVELOPMENT OF VISTA CAN  
CONTINUE... IN THE OPEN.  
  
Yes, I am shouting.  
The current situation is shameful.  
Believe me, those who wish to commit to VistA Office are being hurt.  
Our credibility is not improved by the continued silence from the CMS and  
the Iowa West Foundation.  
 
regards to all,  
John Leo Zimmer, M.D., M.A., A.B.F.P 
 
P.S. 
This list remains the best online resource that I have ever used;  
and "All about programming" is a worthy, interesting thread.  
 
But for the past two weeks the Hardhats list is a 747 sitting,  
fully loaded,  
on the runway,  
burning fuel,  
going nowhere,,  
waiting for a piper cub to clear the sky.



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Cache terminal window

[John Leo Zimmer]

-- Original Message ---
From: "James Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Cache terminal window

> In response to a question .
> I got a reply saying that Intersystems Cache was a DOS based 
> application.  That does not sound right to me, but I do not think I 
> know enough about this issue.  Does this make sense?
>

Check out the Intersystems website here for full details:

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/technology/product-tables/current-
prodlist.html

>From that page I give you this list with probably more info than you wish. 
:-)

HP Alpha OpenVMS 7.2-2, 7.3-1, 7.3-2
HP Alpha Tru64 UNIX 5.1, 5.1a, 5.1b
HP-UX 11 (32 bit only)
HP-UX 11i (64 and 32 bit) 
HP-UX 11i v2 (64 bit for Itanium) 
HP-UX 11i v2 (64 bit for PA Risc)
IBM P Series AIX 4.3.3 (32 bit only) 
IBM P Series AIX 5.1, 5.2, 5.3 (64 and 32 bit)
Mac OS X 10.3, 10.4 *
Red Hat Advanced Server 3.0 (64 bit for AMD) *
Red Hat Linux (Intel) Advanced Server 2.1, 3.0, 4.0 
Red Hat Linux (Intel) Advanced Server 3.0, 4.0 (64 bit for Itanium) 
Sun Solaris (SPARC) 8, 9, 10
SuSE Linux (Intel) 7.3, 8.0, 9.0 
SuSE Linux (Intel) Enterprise Server 8 
SuSE Linux (Intel) Enterprise Server 8 (64 bit for Itanium) 
Windows NT 4 (SP4, SP5, SP6), 2000 (SP3, SP4),
XP (SP1, SP2), Server 2003 (SP1) 
Windows Server 2003 (SP1) (64 bit for Itanium)
 

regards,
jlz

Healthcare, a human right.



 


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[Hardhats-members] a TaskMan detail

[John Leo Zimmer]

I get this situation when I don't shutdown VistA correctly. When I startup 
TaskMan again a bogus task is left over from the no longer correct entry in 
^%ZTSCH. (See below. Linux top shows only job 570, not 3069.) I can kill ^%
ZTSCH("TASK",71) to get rid of the dead entry. But that seems neither 
elegant nor "the cowboy way". 

Is there an Option that kills a task that TaskMan thinks is currently 
running?

Thanks, 
Grandpa.

71: EN^XWBTCPL(9200), RPC Broker Listener START on VAH-ROU:colinux, port 
9200.
No device.  VAH,ROU:colinux.  From 7/31/2005 at 20:44,  By you.
Started running 7/31/2005 at 20:44.  Job #: 3069 [BFD]

-

79: EN^XWBTCPL(9200), RPC Broker Listener START on VAH-ROU:colinux, port 
9200.
No device.  VAH,ROU:colinux.  From 8/1/2005 at 0:12,  By you.
Started running 8/1/2005 at 0:12.  Job #: 570




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Re: [Hardhats-members] Personal Health ID

[John Leo Zimmer]

Actually this chip is to be placed in the ugly, flabby skin on the inside of
your upper arm. Plastic arm bands are legacy technology. :-)


Healthcare, a human right.
Positive ID, a governmental right?

-- Original Message ---
From: "James Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Won't the RFID chip just be placed in the ugly plastic wristband 
> they put on you when you are admitted to a hospital.  Did Thurman 
> leave the  context out?
> 
> 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Personal Health ID

[John Leo Zimmer]

so I'll have my chip under my skin... and my RFID jammer in my watch. I 
haven't worn a watch for a couple years. Maybe my palm pilot will work. 

Oh, the RFID chip can be my mitten string! I've been hankering for the 
little tool that keeps my other tools from getting too far away. They could 
all be keeping track of ME and whistle when I get out of range. No more lost 
cell phone! (I was hoping that bluetooth could be turned to that end.)

jlz

-- Original Message ---
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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:29:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Personal Health ID

> On 7/27/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > That is almost like having someone read your mind whether you like it or 
> > not.
> > Will we have to walk around wrapped in aluminum foil or carry our own
> > personal signal jammer if we would like some privacy?
> >
> 
> There was a time, not too long ago when this was considered 
> EXCESSIVELY paranoid. RFID jammers will become commonplace, I'm 
> sure. It's not too hard.
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Re: [Hardhats-members] You must have a valid DUZ!

[John Leo Zimmer]

For myself, I will proceed with installation of OpenVistA onto my proposed
server. I expect configuration to be at least recognizable when VistA-Office
eventually gets here. I cannot afford to wait for CMS to decide they're ready.
I'm ready now. Expect to maintain a couple of test partitions prior to going
live anyway.

jlz

Healthcare, a human right.


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> Is there a migration path from VistA -> VistA Office? I've been 
> thinking of doing a Vista/CPRS install, but *IF* there are going to 
> be serious differences between the VistAOffice client and CPRS, I 
> might think twice, and just hold off until VistAOffice is out.
> 



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Re: [Hardhats-members] == Question to Bhaskar =

[John Leo Zimmer]

> You know what this sounds like to me?
> 
> NULL device conflict.
> 

Very interesting... You just solved MY problem, too!
Thank you, Mike.  

And thanks, also, for #lsof -i | grep 9200   

Lurking remains a profitable enterprise. What a resource this list.

XXO,
jlz

BTW, Mike, exactly WHY does this sound like a NULL device conflict? 



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Who is ready to install VistA *today*?

[John Leo Zimmer]

I usually rename "EVE" to "EVE " for the same purpose.

jlz

-- Original Message ---
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>EVE3 is EVE, just slightly renamed so that you don't get a select 
> list with EVENT menu options and it is easier to type.
>


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Re: [Fwd: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes]

[John Leo Zimmer]

I was happy to stay in deep background, myself. We can let Kevin and Nancy
field all the questions.

We are going to see an explosion of newbies, I'm afraid.

BTW the WorldVistA site has not been updated since before Boston.
Not that <> have the time to fix it up. :-)

love and kisses to all.


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[Hardhats-members] coLinux update: CPRS Demo

[John Leo Zimmer]

We now have coLinux running cleanly on an XP box and serving OpenVistA   
cleanly on the local network using both putty and today the CPRS GUI.   
   
I can also run it entirely on from a USB drive (except for the virtual NIC   
needed to bridge to the hardware network.   
   
still having fun in Iowa,   
jlz   


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Re: [Hardhats-members] philosophy???

[John Leo Zimmer]

Yeah, but they should match, Kevin. 
That unbalanced sentence is going to crash the system... 
(unless you count the emoticon... which would be cheating.) 
:-) 
 
regards, 
jlz 
 
-- Original Message --- 
From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 
> It's (as far as I am concerned (and I have a 
> reasonable amount of concern (well, at least a little) 
> about this) OK. 
>  
> :-) 
>  
> Kevin 
 


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RE: [Hardhats-members] Purging old codes

[John Leo Zimmer]

The menu option XUSERAOLD says it will purge codes older than 90 days. 
It calls the routine ^XUSPURGE which actually enforces a 270 day minimum 
lifespan for ACCESS and VERIFY CODES. Too long for many of us, especially in 
a testing mode. 
 
The ^XUSPURGE routine has 270 days hard-coded into it in a couple of places. 
These could be changed, but that may not be a good idea in a production 
environment. 
 
One can also call ^XUSPURGE directly with a shorter minimum, e.g. 10 days, 
thusly: 
 
 
GTM> 
 
GTM>S DAYS=10 
 
GTM>D V02^XUSPURGE(10) 
. 
 
9 old verify codes have been purged. 
GTM>D A02^XUSPURGE(10) 
... 
 
7 old access codes have been purged. 
GTM> 
 
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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
Sent: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:34:13 -0500 
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE 
 
> You are seeking the Option: XUSERAOLD 
>  
> Theriot, Derek wrote:  
> > That should work.  Where can I find it?  
> >   
> > Thanks.  
> >   
> > -Original Message-  
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg  
> > Woodhouse  
> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:48 AM  
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net  
> > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE  
> >   
> > Oh...I see. I think there's an option to purge old access  codes.  
> >   
> > --- "Theriot, Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>  
> Healthcare, a human right. 
>  
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RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

[John Leo Zimmer]

 
You are seeking the Option: XUSERAOLD 
 
Theriot, Derek wrote: 
> That should work.  Where can I find it? 
>  
> Thanks. 
>  
> -Original Message- 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg 
> Woodhouse 
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:48 AM 
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
> Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE 
>  
> Oh...I see. I think there's an option to purge old access  codes. 
>  
> --- "Theriot, Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 
 
 
Healthcare, a human right. 
 
 


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RE: [Hardhats-members] (no subject)

[John Leo Zimmer]

Better answer.
Always available on this list.
:-)

Healthcare, a human right.


-- Original Message ---
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To: 
Sent: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:18:04 -0400
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] (no subject)

> I just ran into this problem myself.
> 
> I got around it by typing
> 
> S DUZ=.5 D Q^DI
> 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] (no subject)

[John Leo Zimmer]

I'm not familiar with this one.
You MIGHT try (D P^DI) instead of "Q",
but if it works, someone else will have to explain.

regards,
jlz

Healthcare, a human right.


-- Original Message ---
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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:00:07 -0500
Subject: [Hardhats-members] (no subject)

> While trying to start FileMan (D Q^DI) I get:
> 
> VA FileMan 22.0
> Your Identity(DUZ) is 0(zero).
> Please identify yourself
> Access Code:
> 
> If no correct answer is given it promts
> New Person?
> 

Answer, YES, here and see what happens.
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Custom Fileman date output formatting.

[John Leo Zimmer]

>>W $$FMTE^XLFDT(300)
>>2000
>>
> 
>You had to artificially zero out the digits for
>month,day etc to achieve this.  You couldn't do this
>for any arbitrary date with out extra steps.  I.e.:
>
>SET SOMEDATE=1790231.123255
>W $$FMTE^XLFDT(SOMEDATE)
>S SOMEDATE=SOMEDATE\1   ;blow away time part
>S $EXTRACT(SOMEDATE,4,7)="" ;blow away month,day
>part
>W $$FMTE^XLFDT(SOMEDATE)
>-->
>Feb 31, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:32:55
>1979
>



Or

SET SOMEDATE=2790231.123255

W $$FMTE^XLFDT(SOMEDATE\1*1)

1979



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Revised (again) /usr/local/OpenVistA/vista script

[John Leo Zimmer]

wiki at: 
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Main_Page 
 
Healthcare, a human right. 
 
 
-- Original Message --- 
From: "LD \"Gus\" Landis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
Sent: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:20:33 -0500 
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Revised (again) /usr/local/OpenVistA/vista 
script 
 
> Dear Gran'pa Z, 
>  
>   Where's the wiki you mentioned? 
>  
>   How'd your "Des Moines surprise" go?  Grandchildren sure 
>   are fun!  
 
I'm in serious grandson withdrawal at the moment. 
That's life. 
 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Revised (again) /usr/local/OpenVistA/vista script

[John Leo Zimmer]

Thanks, Kevin 
You gave me the start I needed. 
I just finished adding the script to the Wiki. 
 
More to come, I hope. 
My next target is your VistA configuration script 
 
regards, 
jlz 
 
 
 
Kevin Toppenberg wrote: 
 
 
>>If you want code formatted, just make sure that each 
>>line has 1-2 spaces at the beginning,  
>>   
 
 


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RE: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field in INSTITUTION file?

[John Leo Zimmer]

Would there be some interest in adding such a capability to our OpenVistA 
forum? Those who wish could submit an application and be assigned an 
official slot in the INSTITUTION file.

Perhaps a topic for Boston? A step toward update distributions, KIDS, etc?

jlz

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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Why changed input transform on STATION field 
in INSTITUTION file?

> 
> ... For the VHA, the Institution file is now updated at the 
> central FORUM database and the updates are 'pushed' to all sites. 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Can a configured system be copied to another machine?

[John Leo Zimmer]

From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Can a configured system be copied to another 
machine?

> 
> So could I do a base installation that others could
> use?
> 

I have done this between a linux partition and a coLinux partition. No 
problem, except that I've done very little to the vista database. A robust 
demo version would be a great contribution toward a plug-and-play 
implementation. 

You go, Kevin.


jlz


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[Hardhats-members] m2web error

[John Leo Zimmer]

Jim Self or ??

With great joy I have just succeded to get m2web off dead center. :-)))

http://vista/echo works

http://vista/go presents the logon screen.
But then I get this error:



Server Error - Log: 1  Error while zlinking "XUS",%GTM-E-FILENOTFND, File XUS
not found
at passChk+3^htUser 


Where do I look for the fix for this?

regards,
grandpa Z
(who may be ready for Boston, after all)

Healthcare, a human right.



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Re: [Hardhats-members] MDC Revival

[John Leo Zimmer]

  
BANG!!  
  
 
As time marshes on I have lately been reminded by threads such as this one 
that one of my own motivations for sticking around MUG Atlanta in the 80's, 
MUG itself until it's demise, and then Hardhats, and now openvista 
(lowercase here to be as broad as possible)...  
 
I am still drawn (alongside healthcare as a human right) by this continuing 
association with this group of <> studded with <>... sort 
of like nuts, raisins and bits of unexpected whatever enbeded in a 
fruitcake. :-)  
  
We remain capable of discussion on a level that I can understand,  
mostly, and contribute to, (very occasionally substantively), but which puts  
me into contact with minds that sometimes show a broader sweep than mine,  
sometimes move at a deeper level than mine, take me places I wouldn't have 
considered, and often bring to bear experience very different from my own.  
 
regards to all and onward, 
jlz 
 
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To:   
Sent: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:11:33    
Subject: Re: Re: [Hardhats-members] MDC Revival  
  
> ...I echo Jim's remark--it is not so simple...  
>   
> However, if you distill the soup down to the essential ingredients,  
>  standards making is a market management process at the end of the   
> day.  A market can be just one seller and one buyer, but that   
> degenerate case isn't very interesting.  
 
snip 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] NYTimes.com: Doctors' Journal Says Computing Is No Panacea

[John Leo Zimmer]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4527365   
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/293/10/1197   
   
I find the study itself a very good read, cleverly structured and perfectly   
timed. I am familiar with the TDS system used in the study hospital, it's an   
old war horse that has apparently been replaced last year in the study   
hospital. But the article would make a pretty good plot for an episode of   
ER.   
   
The authors' recommendations include this: "Plan for continuous revisions   
and quality improvement, recognizing that all changes generate new error   
risks." Seems to me that points us toward a key strength of Vista, the   
integration of users into ongoing design and maintance of the system.  
Translating that culture to the outpatient settings that interest me is a  
major problem.  
  
regards,  
jlz  
  
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Subject: [Hardhats-members] NYTimes.com: Doctors' Journal Says Computing Is   
No Panacea   
   
> This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
>
> I'm forwarding this article because it may be of interest. I do not
> necessarily agree with the argument being presented.   
>
> TECHNOLOGY | March 9, 2005   
>
> Doctors' Journal Says Computing Is No Panacea   
> By STEVE LOHR   
>  
> This Article service.  For general information about NYTimes.com,   
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Healthcare, a human right. 
 
 
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Subject: [Hardhats-members] NYTimes.com: Doctors' Journal Says Computing Is 
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> This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  
> I'm forwarding this article because it may be of interest. I do not  
> necessarily agree with the argument being presented. 
>  
> TECHNOLOGY | March 9, 2005 
>  
> Doctors' Journal Says Computing Is No Panacea 
> By STEVE LOHR 
>  
> Recent research casts doubt on the drive by the Bush administration  
> and many health experts to move the nation's health care records  
> quickly into the computer age. 
> 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Article "Health IT connectivity hinges on VA software"

[John Leo Zimmer]

Healthcare, a human right.
Sam, I don't have it either,
But the library should be able to provide it via interlibrary loan.
Or, very likely, online.
Were are you located?

regards,
jlz

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Sent: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 10:36:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Article "Health IT connectivity hinges on VA 
software"

> Dear HardHat Members:
> 
> Greetings.
> 
> Could you please send me the article published in the "News and 
> Recent Events" section of the HomePage of hardhats.org?  The link is 
> provided but I/my University doesn't have subscription for the 
> journal. 


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RE: [Hardhats-members] Latest FOIA VistA releases

[John Leo Zimmer]

I've wondered how long that would take. :-)

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>..
> 
> Note that CPT code values had previously been in one of the fields 
> in the Lexicon tables and are now deleted.  


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RE: [Hardhats-members] GT.M Acculturation live CD available

[John Leo Zimmer]

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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] GT.M Acculturation live CD available

> No, I first "created" the release in January, intending to upload 
> version 0.2, which I used for the class I taught in January in 
> Honolulu.  But I didn't upload it.  I finally uploaded version 0.3 
> today,

And THAT explains why it is only just now reaching the sourceforge mirrors.

   :-)  Adults are probably not much impressed by such small matters. :-)



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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M Acculturation live CD available

[John Leo Zimmer]

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To: 
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Subject: [Hardhats-members] GT.M Acculturation live CD available

> 
> The GT.M Acculturation Workshop can also be used to install Linux (a 
> somewhat dated Linux by the standards of 2005, but it is a Debian 
> GNU/Linux distribution and can be easily updated online).  GT.M V5.0-
> FT01 is included, as is VistA as released on February 12, 2005 (i.e.,

oops, is there a new version about to be posted?
The current version,0.3, carries a date of January 14, 2005.

jlz


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RE: [Hardhats-members] Xdialog, dialog, m2web

[John Leo Zimmer]

From: "Bhaskar, KS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Xdialog, dialog, m2web

> John --
> 
> Something is really screwed up with e-mail.  I received your e-mail 
> after the responses in the thread it initiated!  Comments below.
>

[jlz]  that may be partly my doing. I initially used my local ISP but I'm not
a member at that address so it required approval... which came through some
hours after I had repeated myself from this webmail address. . . but something
seems to be dropping some of your mail lately.  Maybe you have a full mailbox
or some sort of storage problem?

> I'm aiming toward Boston and I'm attempting to fancy up Bhaskar's 
> install/run script. My ultimate goal is to include the installation 
> of m2web into the scripts:
> 
> [KSB] Actually, you can integrate M2web without touching the 
> /usr/local/OpenVistA/vista script.  Assuming that you have the 
> database installed in (for example)
>  /mnt/hda4/myVistA/OpenVistA/g/mumps.dat, then just put the routines 
> for M2Web in /mnt/hda4/myVistA/OpenVistA/r/.  The object files will 
> automatically get compiled into /mnt/hda4/myVistA/OpenVistA/o/.
> 
[jlz] I'm thinking


> 1b.) ?? How do I add wa test for the <> of Xdialog itself??
> 
> [KSB] Try something like:
> 
> export DIALOG=${DIALOG:=`which Xdialog`} ; if [[ -z $DIALOG ]] ; 
> then export DIALOG=`which dialog` ; fi
> 
> and in your script use $DIALOG as the program to use.  Now that I 
> think about it, a construct like the following might be even better:
> 
> if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] ; then export DIALOG=`which dialog` ; else ... 
> ; fi
> 

[jlz] OK, Thanks. That's what I needed. This works to test for both X and 
Xdialog.

##
if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] ; then dialog --infobox "X not running" 0 0 ; 
 $vista_source/dvista ; exit 1
  fi
export XDIALOG=`which Xdialog`
if [[ -z $XDIALOG ]] ; then dialog --msgbox "Xdialog not installed" 0 0 ;
 $vista_source/dvista ; exit 1
  fi
##

> 
> [KSB] I don't know about the environment variables that M2Web uses,
>  but I would hazard a guess that if you are using M2Web, then the 
> /usr/local/OpenVistA/vista script is superfluous.
> 

[jlz] OK, That clarifies my thinking... I hope. I was fearful of a conflict
between VistA running under a local user logged into FileMan and M2Web hitting
the same database from outside.  But the environental variables that each
chooses to employ have no crosstalk with each other. They just need to work
within their respective environs as they hit the common VistA database.

Understanding... now for something that <>. One small step for mankind,
one giant leap etc.

> regards,
> jlz    better grandfather than programmer.
> 
> [KSB] Yes, but better physician than programmer, I'm sure!

  [jlz] Of late I have been impressed with the need to get our programs right.
I think the VistA community appreciates that software development can also be
a matter of life-and-death importance.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Xdialog, dialog, m2web

[John Leo Zimmer]

s  
> >   My ultimate goal is to include
> > the installation of m2web  
> > into the scripts:
> 
> Do you mean that you will have the script
> automatically install M2web on the system?  Why not
> simply install it, then create a master disk.  This
> would involve having Bhaskar burn a new Viva disk.

[jlz]
That's my target. One Xdialog/dialog script to install
and run the whole demo system... 
coLinux compatable as well.
 
> The same could apply for VPE.  I think it should come
> pre-installed.

[jlz]
Agreed. But that can just be included in the OpenVistA tar
 
> >   
> > 1.) I've added a test to ...OpenVistA/vista to
> > switch from Xdialog to plain  
> > old dialog in the absence of Xwindows, like so:  
> >   
> > ###  
> > if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] ; then dialog --infobox "X not
> > running" 0 0 ;  
> > $vista_source/dvista ; exit 1  
> >fi  
> > ###  
> >   
> > 1b.) ?? How do I add a test for the <> of
> > Xdialog itself??
> 
> Xdialog is a file that lives in /urs/bin.  I think you
> could do a "file-exists" type function.  I don't know
> what this is in Linux, but it should be standard.
> 

[jlz] I know the expertise is out there.. 
and searchable if I weren't so lazy... 
and on call all weekend.


> > ;;  
> >   "Rundown") clear  
> > `$gtm_dist/mupip rundown -r "*"`  
> > Xdialog --infobox "rundown finished" 0 0
> > 6000 ; exit 1  
> > ;;  
> > esac
> 
> Also, do you know Xdialog well enough to include a
> graphic on the dialog box at start up.  It would make
> it look much more professional.
>
[jlz]
I am already spending too much time on Xdialog. 
Pure, simple, old dialog is probably more functional.




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[Hardhats-members] Xdialog, dialog, m2web

[John Leo Zimmer]

I'm aiming toward Boston and I'm attempting to fancy up Bhaskar's  
install/run script. My ultimate goal is to include the installation of m2web  
into the scripts:  
  
1.) I've added a test to ...OpenVistA/vista to switch from Xdialog to plain  
old dialog in the absence of Xwindows, like so:  
  
###  
if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] ; then dialog --infobox "X not running" 0 0 ;  
$vista_source/dvista ; exit 1  
   fi  
###  
  
1b.) ?? How do I add a test for the <> of Xdialog itself??  
  
2.) Now I have a new script "...OpenVistA/dvista" that uses dialog instead  
of Xdialog. I will post that here if anyone needs it before Boston.  
  
3.) I've added a menu option to do a rundown to both scripts. This works 
nicely and can be branched to on exit from GTM> so the user can agree to 
rundown routinely:  
  
case $action in  
  
  "Run")...snip  
  "Erase")  ...snip  
  "Install (and run)")  ...snip  
;;  
  "Rundown") clear  
`$gtm_dist/mupip rundown -r "*"`  
Xdialog --infobox "rundown finished" 0 0 6000 ; exit 1  
;;  
esac  
  
3.) The addition of m2web's installation is giving me trouble, partly  
because Jim Self uses environmental variables differently.  
>From m2web-vista-cgi:  
  
#!/bin/bash  
#invoke GT.M for M2Web CGI  
export m2web="/usr/local/m2web"  
export vista_home="/usr/local/vista/OpenVistA"  
export gtm_sysid="vista.net"  
export gtm_dist="/usr/local/gtm"  
export gtm_log="$gtm_dist/log"  
export gtmgbldir="$vista_home/g/mumps.gld"  
export gtmroutines="$vista_home/o($m2web/w $vista_home/r) $gtm_dist"  
  
Bhaskar's script uses $vista_source where Jim's has $vista_home.  
And Bhaskar uses $vista_home for the location of the directory in which  
Vista will run.  
  
Guidance from Bhaskar and Jim would be appreciated.  
  
regards,  
jlz    better grandfather than programmer.  
  
  
  
Bhaskar, KS wrote:  
  
>  
> [KSB] If you are still in the process of setting up GT.M and the  
> environment (vs. configuring VistA itself), let me suggest a much faster  
> alternative.  You will need Xdialog (http://xdialog.dyns.net) on your PC  
> for this approach.  
>  
> Download an OpenVistA SemiVivA file (either OpenVistA SemiVivA 0.4 or  
> OpenVistA SemiVivA FOIA Gold 20050212), say to /Distrib/OpenVistA.  The  
> following will install GT.M and OpenVistA (replace the filename in the  
> second line with appropriate name of downloaded file):  
>  
  
  
  
Healthcare, a human right.  
  


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Re: [Hardhats-members] How to properly use ^%ZIS ??

[John Leo Zimmer]

I <> pay close attention 
when Ms Follingstad joins the discussion. :-)
Good to know you are still around, Marianne.


regards,
jlz

Healthcare, a human right.


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[Hardhats-members] boston tea-party

[John Leo Zimmer]

I was lurking on the Friday call today.

Considering the adgenda for Boston, 
I can commit to a presentation on Vista on coLinux on XP. I can do a 
powerpoint presentation, demo, and installation instructions with the 
software in one package.

regards,
JohnLeoZ

Healthcare, a human right.



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Using ^%ZIS to select input file

[John Leo Zimmer]

Kevin,
I used FileMan for about six months before I discovered the <>. I 
recall that as quite a revelation at the time. :-) 

Then it was off to the races for a while. That was some time ago, 198x. And I 
still spend much of my effort figuring out what is already implemented and 
waiting to be tapped. 

JLZ
 
Working toward the Boston teaparty.


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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Using ^%ZIS to select input file

> Thanks for your help Marianne.
> 
> As I stumble along, I find myself often reinventing
> the wheel.  But I guess I'm learning... :-)
> 
> Kevin



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RE: [Hardhats-members] XML (like OpenOffice does)

[John Leo Zimmer]

Aha! Google yields this interesting link:  
http://www-106.ibm.com//xml/library/%%WORD8%/  
 
it's XML in a zip wrapper  
 
Thank you, David.  
  
gp Z 
 
Healthcare, a human right.  
  
  
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To:   
Sent: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:40:57 -0500  
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] XML (like OpenOffice does)  
  
> I haven't cracked open their native format but it could be XML under   
> the covers.  Office 2003 is like that - Word, Excel, etc - all XML.  
> 


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[Hardhats-members] XML (like OpenOffice does)

[John Leo Zimmer]

Joseph,  
Is this accurate? I would expect to be able to read an XML file with the  
"naked eye" so to speak, but I can't find such a file format in OpenOffice.  
  
regards, 
jlz 
  
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> Kevin  
>   
>  From what you know would the following be possible: If one used a   
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[Hardhats-members] Friday call ??

[John Leo Zimmer]

Is there to be a noon call today? 
Topic? or general? 
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Meeting - Boston, teaparty

[John Leo Zimmer]

I just bought a ticket to this tea party. 
Any suggestions from the group on hotels/etc? 
 
regards to all, 
johnleoz 
 
 
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Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Meeting - Boston, April 7-10 
 
> The next general VistA Community Meeting will be in Boston, MA 
>  
> April 7 ~ 10, 2005. 
>  
> Sponsored by and located at: 
> InterSystems Corporation 
> One Memorial Drive 
> Cambridge, MA 02142 
>  
> Hosted by WorldVistA 
>  
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Steer future direction of VivA packages

[John Leo Zimmer]

Bhaskar,
Your doing whatever you darnwellplease has served the community pretty well 
so far.

I think OpenVistA VivA XP is now a stronger option with the latest version of 
coLinux, 0.6.2 released 5 Feb 2005. 

Among the improvements:
a.) Windows partitions can now be mounted... (It lets you access your C:\ 
without using Samba or other network file systems.) 

b.) This includes usb drives under windows. (Not USB drives formated for 
Reiserfs or ext, But all my other linux partitions mount effortlessly. Makes 
it easy to copy the gtm and OpenVistA directories over into colinux XP.)

c.) Networking is very simple... apt-get and wireless work just fine.

I have debian running under XP and gtm/OpenVistA up and working with Putty.
I do not yet have VistA configured for CPRSChart. (I think I'm over gentoo 
for a while.)

Stay tuned. 
GrandpaZ is slow but he's still out there. :-)


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Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:01:46 -0500
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Steer future direction of VivA packages

> (while I reserve the right to do what I darn well please, I do try 
> to be responsive to community needs):
> 
>   Go no further:
>   OpenVistA VivitA:
>   OpenVistA VivA USB:
>   OpenVistA VivA XP:
> 
> Any other qualitative feedback is always appreciated.  Thank you very
> much for your interest and support.
> 
> -- Bhaskar
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Numbers for programs stored in Databases

[John Leo Zimmer]

DON't split the coefficient from the root.
Open Office Calc expresses the exponent with an "E" rather than "D".
I think that if you replace "D-" with "E-" and "D " with "E" the file would
import to Calc as a
tab delimited table.

regards,
jlz

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Sent: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:48:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Numbers for programs stored in Databases

> http://www.cdc.gov/growthcharts/data/1977coefficients2.txt
> 
> If you click on the word "Coefficients" at the top of this page, 
> there is a table with this sort of notation.
> 
> I was going to pull it into a spreadsheet and I thought it might be 
> easier to separate out the exponent rather than leave it there to be 
> parsed out.  That way when I exported it again, I could comma 
> delimit it rather than "D" delimit it.
> 
> I was wondering why it was done that way. Greg probably has the answer.
> 
> On Saturday 22 January 2005 11:34 pm, Greg Kreis wrote:
> > I am not sure of what you are asking.  Are you referring to this?
> >
> >  >w .24e-2
> >
> > .0024
> >
> > Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:
> > >Is it fairly typical to provide numbers in a format with a D followed by a
> > >power of 10, i.e. 0.240D-02 is really .0024, for entry into
> > >databases to be parsed and used by programs?  If it is, is the D-02
> > > portion usually provided in the same piece of data or "cell" or whatever
> > > you want to call it, or in a different, perhaps adjoining, cell?



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Re: [Hardhats-members] How to create a new global variable?

[John Leo Zimmer]

What do you want in ^TMG?

e.g. s ^TMG=""
or   s ^TMG=x,^TMG(0)=y,^TMG(0,1,0)="something else, like a string",TMG(x)=y

There is NO difference between setting a global and setting a local, eg TMG.

If you are building a new FileMan file, there is also the option of setting 
that file's content into a particular Global location, such as ^VA(200, etc.

regards,
johnleo

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Subject: [Hardhats-members] How to create a new global variable?

> Hey all,
> 
> I would like to create a new global (i.e. ^TMG)
> How do I do this.
> I looked over the indexes of the GTM programmer's
> manual, and the GTM Admin manual, and didn't see the
> info.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Kevin
> 
>   
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Pharmacy overview please.

[John Leo Zimmer]

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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Pharmacy overview please. 
 
> John Leo might like to jump in here as he set up something to print  
> prescriptions with a picture of the patient on them.  I don't know  
> how easily his code would integrate with VistA, if it would at all. 
> 
 
Nancy's smoked me out because I've been restraining myself from just this 
discussion.  
 
I do have much experience with printing from my old (1990's) version of 
VistA/DHCP/RPMS. That was with my own adptation/bastardization of the IHS 
RPMS, which ran under Micronetics MSM under DOS. (The system still sits over 
on the XP partition of this computer.)  
 
The reason I've been keeping quiet has to do with all the vagaries of 
getting printers to work under gtm/linux instead of MSM/MsDOS. My old 
experience was with control of the LaserJet through its PCL-5 printer 
control language via a LPT connection. (I still treasure my 500 page PCL5 
Technical Reference Manual.) To transfer those skills to Linux I need to 
figure out printing direct to lp0, which is probably not a great idea.  
 
Other than that what Kevin needs is a realtively simple, stand-alone 
application to store Rx data. Which is the core of my old homemade Rx 
module. I'd like to rebuild it as a little substitute for OutPatient 
Pharmacy that can take a Rx from CPRS and print it or fax it or email it or 
whatever. Needs doing. 
 
regards, 
jlz  
 
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[Hardhats-members] RE: UPPERCASE / Mixed Case

[John Leo Zimmer]

Thurman,
To my knowledge, DHCP/VISTA has always been uppercase only... throughout the
whole 20+ years. It's even likely that the first systems were only capable of
uppercase ;-)

I would be fairly confident that "someone local" did convert your patient file
to allow both. I've had that tendency for years myself. I think we lose a
little information by not having mixed case.

regards, jlz

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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Unusual search failure.

> I have an older version of the patient file that allows lower case 
> and "."
> (can't be sure someone local didn't make that change). I wonder if there
> isn't some good reason for that change.


> 
> Anyone know the rational behind why the patient file changed?
> 



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Brief patient registration -- input template?? screenman??

[John Leo Zimmer]

The billing system in my current position has the ability to print a "face
sheet" to screen/printer or disc. I would approach this problem by having the
billing system print such a face sheet to disc at the completion of
registration. A MUMPS program can watch for the appearance of the face sheet
file, suck it into M globals, $Piece it apart and file the patient in VistA
untouched by human hands. M is a great tool for such shenanigans.

Rule: NEVER type something twice... doubles your errors/hassle/costs.

regards,
jlz

Googling "expect" yields another neat looking tool that I don't have time to
learn.

From: Adrian Midgley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 01:07, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> 
> > We are in the process of bringing up a billing
> > software package, and we are going to have to
> > re-register all our patients in the new system
> 
> Might theexpectprogram be useful for this?
> 
> I can imagine a shim or shell that took instructions from the new system
> and passed them to the user, while passing some of the entered data 
> to both systmes, and some to only one of them.
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[Hardhats-members] demo/model/template users?

[John Leo Zimmer]

Nancy E. Anthracite wrote:

> Also, can someone please provide some information
> for some of the typical setup settings for different
> types of users like  Ward Clerks, Nurses, Staff physicians,
> Registration Clerks, Admitting Clerks, Pharmacists, Nurses Aids, etc.?
>

Nancy touches on something I have been pondering for a good while now:

Currently I can create a Frankenstein user of myself.
I set up as a superuser with every key known to man, every option in the VA
hung onto EVE, and all the clinics, passwords, and patient lists that everyone
in a VA hospital might encounter.

At the moment OpenVistA is delivered with eighty users already defined. But
they mostly hold EVE and then somewhere between three and SIXTY keys. How
about building representative users for  key packages? Then, if I print a
listing of the NEW PERSON file by PRIMARY MENU OPTION, I could get a list of
users (and their KEYS) who have actually held and use those options in a live
setting. These could start out as actual users who perform those functions,
stripped down to just the core function we wish to model, (renamed if desired
to protect the innocent). Then they can function both as demo users and as
templates during a live installation.

The idea could be tried for one package, or by just one subject expert who
wishes to contribute just his/her own profile.

Then to set up pharmacy, for example, our documentation might point me to log
on as DOE,JOHN, holder of pharmacy manager functions to set up that
department. And so on as SMITH,JOE to do the next job, etc, etc.

I am sure that this sort of information can be found among all the technical
and user manuals of Vista. But that is its own problem. This could allow me to
go to those manuals with a model user on line.

regards,
johnleo


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[Hardhats-members] BTW: Pls do not harm the messenger. :)

[John Leo Zimmer]

This thread, and a lot else that is going on, reminds me what a nice bunch of
people we really are. :-)   That felt pretty good... Maybe more would be 
good.

I lurk in a couple other email groups, notably a couple at AAFP
(AmericanAcademyofFamilyPractice). There is usually some sort of petty flame
going there, and some very proud-of-themselves-folk holding forth. It is very
rare to have anything like that erupt here.

My first take on the reason is with the professionalism and committment that
has been a necessary part of DHCP/VistA from its very start. I am sorry that I
cannot say the same of EMR projects within the medical specialty groups.

This is not to say that we are better than anyone else, or that VistA world
domination is assured. Just that I'd rather read this list than most others I
have seen.



jlz

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Sent: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:37:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems

> Hi,
> Pls do not harm the messenger. :)
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems

[John Leo Zimmer]

Obviously, even the open sourcerers benefit from a broader market.

I agree that we'd all benefit from a more visible Cache presence here. There
is a lot of Cache experience, of course. (Tom Ackerman comes to mind... And
the whole VA, come to think of it!)

My own roots are heavy with Micronetics M, with licenses from Intersystems
when they acquired MSM. I remember a lot of sadness with Micronetic's passing.
But that was business and not the stuff of real animosity. (Speaking for 
myself.)

Personally, I am trying to leave <> in my own dust (while using it
daily :-). That is what led me to take Cache off my XP partition recently; to
save space for coLinux/gtm/vista. (Cache's single user license prevented
telnet & CPRS across across the ethernet; so that also has made gtm more
attractive.) Unfortunately I found the Linux/Cache learning curve too steep
when I first attempted Cache under Mandrake so I've gravitated toward gtm.

Finally, we have the open source movement. The vision of an affordable
openVista available worldwide will put some of us firmly in the gtm camp or
anywhere else that the world can afford.

Finally, finally, I would mention Bhaskar. He's no one's enemy. But he has
done a SUPERB job bringing open source gtm to us and supporting it to the
hilt. Very difficult to compete with that, I think.

regards to us all,
jlz


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Sent: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:57:21 -0700
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems

> I will put it stronger.  I wish we could do more to encourage 
> Intersystem and Cache users to post on this list.  
> 
> On Thursday 09 December 2004 10:27 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > Bob,
> >
> > ..."lots of animosity against InterSystems"...
> >
> > I prefer the OpenSource solution of GTM, but I would
> > never say that I have animosity against InterSystems.
> > You've always been helpful.  I hope others feel the
> > same.



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Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM question -- runing a program on startup

[John Leo Zimmer]

Kevin, this thread helped me along, too. Thanks for asking the question... and
for thinking "out loud" through to the solution.

Here's one:
How do I do a caps lock on completing this sort of script?

Better would be to have CAPS toggle ON on entering the VistA xterm window and
OFF on mousing over to some other Linux window.  :-)

Or we could redoo all of VistA in lower case... 

regards,

grandpa Z



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Sent: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:34:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM question -- runing a program on startup

> I think I figured it out.  $3 is the 3rd input
> paramter.  So I can use:
> 
> vista --run $HOME/OpenVista_UserData ^MyFunction
> 
> Thanks
> Kevin



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RE: [Hardhats-members] Difficulty running down database

[John Leo Zimmer]

Many hands make light work.  :-)

BTW, 
I would try to avoid the MixeD CaSe file names, 
other than "/usr/OpenVistA", so as not to have a confusion among "OpenVista",
"OpenVistA", and "openvista", which is least likely to cause trouble.
 
My own favorite is "openVista" which looks more <> to me. :-)


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:37:41 -0600
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Difficulty running down database

> >From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: Hardhats Sourceforge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [Hardhats-members] Difficulty running down database
> >Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:09:21 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >
> >
> >What am I doing wrong?

not much, not much at all, Kevin.

Regards,
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RE: [Hardhats-members] XML Parsing problem

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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] XML Parsing problem

> It should be escaped as "&". Fortunately, there's a convnience
> function that takes care of this for you:
> 
> >W $$SYMENC^MXMLUTL("Physician Assistants & Advanced Practice Nursing")
> Physician Assistants & Advanced Practice Nursing
> >

That's cool.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] TASKMAN not running

[John Leo Zimmer]

Nancy, you want:
http://www.geocities.com/kdtop3/

When I lose the link I Google his email name kdtop3.

regards,
jlz

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Sent: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:37:53 -0500
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> Kevin, what is the link to that web site of yours that has the link 
> to Tom Kroeger's post install instructions?

>


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Re: [Hardhats-members] FileMan for GT.M

[John Leo Zimmer]

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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] FileMan for GT.M
...
>   Where is there posted the comprehensive listing of the routines 
> that is sorted according to  their service component?  Should this 
> be the basis of the directory tree for routines in any distribution?
> ...

Rusty,
Have a look at
ftp://ftp.va.gov/vista/Software/Namespaces.txt 
and other stuff at that URL. One of the virtues of VistA is the control that
Name/NumberSpacing has provided. A problem is that many "modules" are too
emeshed with other parts of the system to be easily extracted for stand-alone 
use.

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Need Help Using VistA to Track Patient Demographics For a Clincal Study

[John Leo Zimmer]

I agree with Fil.

I have used Epi-Info or at least run it. It was so long ago that I don't
remember much about it... except that Nothing I've used gives me the control
over my data that FileMan provides. I ran my medical practice with many new
files and fields grafted onto the IHS PRCR... (or whatever we call it; excuse
the oldtime's). I made many mistakes, but the data came in and out, and we
could fix the mistakes. A database for a single research project is not a fork
from the VistA hospital information system. 

If diamond is not available, I would install openvista semiviva 0.4 and ignore
 most of that, keep to a name/numberspace, and draw upon the rest when it
suits the task.

jlz


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Sent: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:41:35 -0600
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Need Help Using VistA to Track Patient
Demographics For a Clincal Study

> It has been ages since I used Epi-Info.  Is it multiuser capable now?
> 
> My thought was start with Platinum/Stone and build the other 
> necessary support files or even bring in selected files from the LAB 
> e.g. File 63 for the lab results.  I'm not familiar with the 
> Radiology Files but probably we can use those files as well for 
> radiology results.
> 
> Using Vista, it will be multi-user (if that is needed)
> 


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