RE: [H] wify printer ?

[Harvey Best]

Duncan,

That makes sense. I kinda had the same line of thought, though I could not put 
it that plainly. After a while, even with the laptop on sometimes the printer 
would not come back online. When that happens, only a complete re-install 
brings the printer back online. HP realizes some of the problem, as I searched 
their web site and saw some questions about the same type problem. ALas, there 
was very little suggestions for correcting it.

Oh well, as long as I don't move the router, I will be ok. lol

Harvey



Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:03:26 -0400
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [H] wify printer ?


Harvey,

Don't think using a PC would have helped.  Think what may have
happened was that somehow the laptop (PC) got coded as the printer's
"print server."  So that any print jobs had to be routed
thru the laptop(PC) for processing prior to actually being printed
(perhaps during a driver load during the initial install).  This
happened to me several times with my Brother CAT5e LAN printer.


Many de-install/install sessions later I finally got the printer to sit
by itself on the LAN without one of my PC's 'strapped' to it as a print
server.  I am getting very printer-shy now. They can be real animals
to deal with on a LAN.


My LAN is not WIFY, so all this may not even apply.  WIFY I know
next to zero about. Eek, machines on steroids with radio
transmitters... :)  Just standard TCP/IP and ethernet on cable
is about all I can handle; and often badly at that! LOL!

Best,

Duncan


At 17:11 10/30/2007 -0400, HBest wrote:

I don't think the printer came with
one. But I had the cables so it was not a problem. I wonder now in
hindsight, if I used one of the desktop units as  the install
vehicle I might not have had that problem.






> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:58:34 -0700

> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Subject: RE: [H] wify printer ?

> 

> thanks, that helps

> have not had time to research this.

> seems like it should connect wify to the router but with this I am a
NUB

> Did the HP come with a cat5 cable or did you need one ?

> fp

> 

> At 10:49 AM 10/30/2007, Harvey Best Poked the stick with:

> >One issue I had, and it might have been some thing I messed up.
I installed my WiFi printer (HP All in One) with a wireless Netgear
router, using my laptop as the install vehicle. The problem was if the
laptop was not "on" the other computers on the network could
not communicate with the printer. The printer would show as off line. I
solved this problem, by hooking the printer to the router with a cat 5
cable and then the network didn't "lose" the printer. I was
never really sure what was causing the problem, and the router was right
at the printer so using the cable was not an issue.

> >

> >I bought the WiFi printer as I planned to put it in a different
location than it ended up. Again, never really sure if it was a
"problem" or something I did wrong in install or setup.

> >

> >Hope that helps, but I doubt it. lol

> >

> >Harvey

> >

> >MY network is a wireless laptop and desktop and 2 wired
desktops. WiFi printer and router. All network components are
Netgear.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >--

> >> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:19:54 -0700

> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; hardware@hardwaregroup.com

> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> >> Subject: Re: [H] wify printer ?

> >> CC: 

> >> 

> >> thanks

> >> 

> >> At 07:08 AM 10/30/2007, Joe User Poked the stick 
with:

> >> >Hello FORC5,

> >> >

> >> >Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:39:34 PM, you wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Have to set up a wireless printer, at the moment
have no idea how the network is setup, whether a

> >> >> router or direct.

> >> >

> >> >> I assume this is no big deal if there is a
router.

> >> >

> >> >> Fp

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Wireless printer + wireless router = Easy.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >-- 

> >> >Regards,

> >> > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

> >> 

> >> -- 

> >> Tallyho ! ]:8)

> >> Taglines below !

> >> --

> >> Be sure to use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your
environment.

> >> 

> >> 

> >

> >

> >--

> >Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word
scramble challenge with star power.
Play
Now! 

> 

> -- 

> Tallyho ! ]:8)

> Taglines below !

> --

> I owe, I owe, so off to work I go.

> 

> 



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Re: [H] Private IP classes

[DHSinclair]

Tharin,
Thank you for the reply. The smoke clears. I want to read your reply a few 
more times. Yes, I did mis-speak, should have used "octets" instead of 
"quartiles." Got it!


The first paragraph makes perfect sense. Got it.

Second paragraph makes sense also, but I was advised to use the 255.255.0.0 
subnet mask.  I did try it. It did not work well.  I now use a netmask of 
255.255.255.0.  This works perfectly now even though I have chosen to use 
the class A series.


Paragraph 3, about the router is still confusing.  If I gave my 
router/gateway an IP addy of 192.168.1.1, would I not also have to use a 
netmask of 255.255.0.0 for the 3rd and 4th octets to have any meaning/control?


Do not know how to answer Paragraph 4.  Who/What would I "share" my xdsl 
link with?
I do use a router, a DLink DGL-4300.  The recc came from Hayes.  I chose it 
mainly for its' strong SPI firewall. It does offer WIFY, but I have that 
disabled.  I am a hard-wire guy.


Yes, you are making very much sense.  It has just been so many years since 
I had broadband, I'm afraid I forgot much of the edge I had back in 
1999-2000 from previous List training.


I will come back later regarding the balance of your very good share.  ATM, 
the LAN, router, and clients all seem to be happy after late last night's 
re-address party! More later after study.

Thank you so much.
Best,
Duncan

At 10:38 10/30/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Simple answer is that a Private Class C network with a 255.255.255.0 
subnet mask is fine for you. This would create a local network allowing up 
to 254 hosts (machines, computers, whatever). If my math is right, 254 is 
way bigger than than 7 :)


When using this subnet you must make sure the first three quartiles are 
the exact same. All hosts need to have matching IPs except for the fourth 
set. If you want to make use of the entire block of 192.168.x.x then use 
255.255.0.0. (But why would you need a lan of 65 thousand addresses?)


Customarily a router/gateway is assigned an IP like 192.168.1.1 or 
192.168.1.254, since 1 and 254 are the first and last IP address that can 
be used in the last quartile. Your computers, slingbox, nintendo wii, voip 
phone, and like can then be assigned addresses ranging from 1-253 or 2-254 
depending on which one you choose for your gateway.


Are you going to share a DSL or Cable internet connection? Do you already 
have a router or were you turning a PC into a server/gateway/router?


~~ More drawn own discussion below ~~

Since computers use binary the proper term, for what you refer to as a 
quartile, is actually an octet.  Binary is ugly for people to read and 
remember so we write IPs in a decimal form 'aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd'


Anyway, the local network is defined by the subnet and ip that you assign.

If you use 255.255.255.0 as a subnet mask with a Class C network, then 
essentially you are dividing up 192.168.x.x into 256 local networks that 
can each have 254 hosts. A computer/machine/host/whatever will only be 
able to talk to others that are using an IP that match the first three 
octets 192.168.1.x, 192.168.2.x, 192.168.3.x, etc. ('x' can be a value 
from 1 to 254, 0 and 255 are reserved). A computer on 192.168.2.x can't 
talk to a computer on 192.168.3.x.


Data bound for an address outside the scope of your local network, such as 
the internet, would have the packets sent to your router/gateway. (The 
gateway should be your router. A consumer router is actually several 
things its a gateway, a router, a switch, a firewall, and often times a 
wireless access point.)


If you were to use a different subnet like 255.255.255.240 and it would 
create a local network with 16 addresses. This would means you could have 
16 subnets on a single Class C block. 192.168.1.0-16 (LAN 1), 
192.168.1.17-32 (LAN 2), 192.168.1.33-48 (LAN 3), etc. The entire 
192.168.x block would be divided into 4000+ seperate networks.


A subnet of 255.255.0.0 would turn the whole 192.168 block into your local 
network. Any machine with an ip in the range of 192.168.0-255.x could talk 
to each other.


I hope I'm making some sense...

-Tharin O.

DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Tharin,
Can I ask for some more expansion on the below send? This may be the
critical link!

At 16:02 10/29/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>snip
>The subnet mask will determine the range of IP addresses that will be in
>your local network. Your local network being the computers/devices you
>have direct access to send data without needing to be handled through a 
router.

>
>snip
>How did you need to apply this knowledge?? Are you configuring a router or
>small network in your home??

I was trying to have 2 subnets. Perhaps I did it wrong/badly. I have 
given up!

Why is the "...needing to be handled through a router" part of this
equation?
This may be my confusion
Best,
Duncan

snip

RE: [H] wify printer ?

[DHSinclair]

Harvey,
Don't think using a PC would have helped.  Think what may have happened was 
that somehow the laptop (PC) got coded as the printer's "print server."  So 
that any print jobs had to be routed thru the laptop(PC) for processing 
prior to actually being printed (perhaps during a driver load during the 
initial install).  This happened to me several times with my Brother CAT5e 
LAN printer.


Many de-install/install sessions later I finally got the printer to sit by 
itself on the LAN without one of my PC's 'strapped' to it as a print 
server.  I am getting very printer-shy now. They can be real animals to 
deal with on a LAN.


My LAN is not WIFY, so all this may not even apply.  WIFY I know next to 
zero about. Eek, machines on steroids with radio transmitters... 
:)  Just standard TCP/IP and ethernet on cable is about all I can handle; 
and often badly at that! LOL!

Best,
Duncan

At 17:11 10/30/2007 -0400, HBest wrote:
I don't think the printer came with one. But I had the cables so it was 
not a problem. I wonder now in hindsight, if I used one of the desktop 
units as  the install vehicle I might not have had that problem.





--
> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:58:34 -0700
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [H] wify printer ?
>
> thanks, that helps
> have not had time to research this.
> seems like it should connect wify to the router but with this I am a NUB
> Did the HP come with a cat5 cable or did you need one ?
> fp
>
> At 10:49 AM 10/30/2007, Harvey Best Poked the stick with:
> >One issue I had, and it might have been some thing I messed up. I 
installed my WiFi printer (HP All in One) with a wireless Netgear router, 
using my laptop as the install vehicle. The problem was if the laptop was 
not "on" the other computers on the network could not communicate with 
the printer. The printer would show as off line. I solved this problem, 
by hooking the printer to the router with a cat 5 cable and then the 
network didn't "lose" the printer. I was never really sure what was 
causing the problem, and the router was right at the printer so using the 
cable was not an issue.

> >
> >I bought the WiFi printer as I planned to put it in a different 
location than it ended up. Again, never really sure if it was a "problem" 
or something I did wrong in install or setup.

> >
> >Hope that helps, but I doubt it. lol
> >
> >Harvey
> >
> >MY network is a wireless laptop and desktop and 2 wired desktops. WiFi 
printer and router. All network components are Netgear.

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:19:54 -0700
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: [H] wify printer ?
> >> CC:
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> At 07:08 AM 10/30/2007, Joe User Poked the stick with:
> >> >Hello FORC5,
> >> >
> >> >Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:39:34 PM, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Have to set up a wireless printer, at the moment have no idea how 
the network is setup, whether a

> >> >> router or direct.
> >> >
> >> >> I assume this is no big deal if there is a router.
> >> >
> >> >> Fp
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Wireless printer + wireless router = Easy.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Regards,
> >> > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tallyho ! ]:8)
> >> Taglines below !
> >> --
> >> Be sure to use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble 
challenge with star power. 
Play 
Now!

>
> --
> Tallyho ! ]:8)
> Taglines below !
> --
> I owe, I owe, so off to work I go.
>
>


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RE: [H] wify printer ?

[Harvey Best]

I don't think the printer came with one. But I had the cables so it was not a 
problem. I wonder now in hindsight, if I used one of the desktop units as  the 
install vehicle I might not have had that problem.



> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:58:34 -0700
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [H] wify printer ?
> 
> thanks, that helps
> have not had time to research this.
> seems like it should connect wify to the router but with this I am a NUB
> Did the HP come with a cat5 cable or did you need one ?
> fp
> 
> At 10:49 AM 10/30/2007, Harvey Best Poked the stick with:
> >One issue I had, and it might have been some thing I messed up. I installed 
> >my WiFi printer (HP All in One) with a wireless Netgear router, using my 
> >laptop as the install vehicle. The problem was if the laptop was not "on" 
> >the other computers on the network could not communicate with the printer. 
> >The printer would show as off line. I solved this problem, by hooking the 
> >printer to the router with a cat 5 cable and then the network didn't "lose" 
> >the printer. I was never really sure what was causing the problem, and the 
> >router was right at the printer so using the cable was not an issue.
> >
> >I bought the WiFi printer as I planned to put it in a different location 
> >than it ended up. Again, never really sure if it was a "problem" or 
> >something I did wrong in install or setup.
> >
> >Hope that helps, but I doubt it. lol
> >
> >Harvey
> >
> >MY network is a wireless laptop and desktop and 2 wired desktops.  WiFi 
> >printer and router. All network components are Netgear.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:19:54 -0700
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: [H] wify printer ?
> >> CC: 
> >> 
> >> thanks
> >> 
> >> At 07:08 AM 10/30/2007, Joe User Poked the stick with:
> >> >Hello FORC5,
> >> >
> >> >Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:39:34 PM, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Have to set up a wireless printer, at the moment have no idea how the 
> >> >> network is setup, whether a
> >> >> router or direct.
> >> >
> >> >> I assume this is no big deal if there is a router.
> >> >
> >> >> Fp
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Wireless printer + wireless router = Easy.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-- 
> >> >Regards,
> >> > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Tallyho ! ]:8)
> >> Taglines below !
> >> --
> >> Be sure to use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment.
> >> 
> >> 
> >
> >
> >--
> >Climb to the top of the charts!  Play Star Shuffle:  the word scramble 
> >challenge with star power. 
> >Play
> > Now! 
> 
> -- 
> Tallyho ! ]:8)
> Taglines below !
> --
> I owe, I owe, so off to work I go.
> 
> 

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RE: [H] wify printer ?

[FORC5]

thanks, that helps
have not had time to research this.
seems like it should connect wify to the router but with this I am a NUB
Did the HP come with a cat5 cable or did you need one ?
fp

At 10:49 AM 10/30/2007, Harvey Best Poked the stick with:
>One issue I had, and it might have been some thing I messed up. I installed my 
>WiFi printer (HP All in One) with a wireless Netgear router, using my laptop 
>as the install vehicle. The problem was if the laptop was not "on" the other 
>computers on the network could not communicate with the printer. The printer 
>would show as off line. I solved this problem, by hooking the printer to the 
>router with a cat 5 cable and then the network didn't "lose" the printer. I 
>was never really sure what was causing the problem, and the router was right 
>at the printer so using the cable was not an issue.
>
>I bought the WiFi printer as I planned to put it in a different location than 
>it ended up. Again, never really sure if it was a "problem" or something I did 
>wrong in install or setup.
>
>Hope that helps, but I doubt it. lol
>
>Harvey
>
>MY network is a wireless laptop and desktop and 2 wired desktops.  WiFi 
>printer and router. All network components are Netgear.
>
>
>
>
>--
>> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:19:54 -0700
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [H] wify printer ?
>> CC: 
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> At 07:08 AM 10/30/2007, Joe User Poked the stick with:
>> >Hello FORC5,
>> >
>> >Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:39:34 PM, you wrote:
>> >
>> >> Have to set up a wireless printer, at the moment have no idea how the 
>> >> network is setup, whether a
>> >> router or direct.
>> >
>> >> I assume this is no big deal if there is a router.
>> >
>> >> Fp
>> >
>> >
>> >Wireless printer + wireless router = Easy.
>> >
>> >
>> >-- 
>> >Regards,
>> > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tallyho ! ]:8)
>> Taglines below !
>> --
>> Be sure to use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment.
>> 
>> 
>
>
>--
>Climb to the top of the charts!  Play Star Shuffle:  the word scramble 
>challenge with star power. 
>Play
> Now! 

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
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RE: [H] Asus bad

[Tim "The Beave" Lider]

All these Caps being damaged messages reminds to let you guys know that you
can drastically reduce the problem by actually buying high end Power
Supplies.  If you spent $50.00 or less on a power supply, well may I say you
get what you paid for.

The power supply is the most important part of the whole computer, not the
CPU or RAM. If you get a power supply that sends bad voltage to the
motherboard and other components in the computer, you're going to have a
crappy computer. As you can see I am a big proponent of Quality Power
Supplies.

The current Tower I made uses a PC Power and Cooling power Supply
http://www.pcpower.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=S75QB

Tim "The Beave" Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:16 AM
To: Joe User; The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Asus bad

bought this brand new, was not puffed.
Just got another RMA.

Meanwhile here I sit broken hearted >:-}

I should put Asus in my speed dial
fp

At 07:09 AM 10/30/2007, Joe User Poked the stick with:
>Hello FORC5,
>
>Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:41:36 PM, you wrote:
>
>> Sent back a MB with a blown cap on rma. mb was not giving me any
>> grief. They sent back a different one
>> with the same cap puffed.
>
>> May have to find another default MB vendor. :'(
>
>> Be on the phone in the AM to do this again.
>> fp
>
>
>Maybe they used puffy looking caps?
>
>-- 
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> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

-- 
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Re: [H] Private IP classes

[Tharin Olsen]

Simple answer is that a Private Class C network with a 255.255.255.0 subnet 
mask is fine for you. This would create a local network allowing up to 254 
hosts (machines, computers, whatever). If my math is right, 254 is way bigger 
than than 7 :)

When using this subnet you must make sure the first three quartiles are the 
exact same. All hosts need to have matching IPs except for the fourth set. If 
you want to make use of the entire block of 192.168.x.x then use 255.255.0.0. 
(But why would you need a lan of 65 thousand addresses?)

Customarily a router/gateway is assigned an IP like 192.168.1.1 or 
192.168.1.254, since 1 and 254 are the first and last IP address that can be 
used in the last quartile. Your computers, slingbox, nintendo wii, voip phone, 
and like can then be assigned addresses ranging from 1-253 or 2-254 depending 
on which one you choose for your gateway.

Are you going to share a DSL or Cable internet connection? Do you already have 
a router or were you turning a PC into a server/gateway/router?

~~ More drawn own discussion below ~~

Since computers use binary the proper term, for what you refer to as a 
quartile, is actually an octet.  Binary is ugly for people to read and remember 
so we write IPs in a decimal form 'aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd'

Anyway, the local network is defined by the subnet and ip that you assign.

If you use 255.255.255.0 as a subnet mask with a Class C network, then 
essentially you are dividing up 192.168.x.x into 256 local networks that can 
each have 254 hosts. A computer/machine/host/whatever will only be able to talk 
to others that are using an IP that match the first three octets 192.168.1.x, 
192.168.2.x, 192.168.3.x, etc. ('x' can be a value from 1 to 254, 0 and 255 are 
reserved). A computer on 192.168.2.x can't talk to a computer on 192.168.3.x.

Data bound for an address outside the scope of your local network, such as the 
internet, would have the packets sent to your router/gateway. (The gateway 
should be your router. A consumer router is actually several things its a 
gateway, a router, a switch, a firewall, and often times a wireless access 
point.)

If you were to use a different subnet like 255.255.255.240 and it would create 
a local network with 16 addresses. This would means you could have 16 subnets 
on a single Class C block. 192.168.1.0-16 (LAN 1), 192.168.1.17-32 (LAN 2), 
192.168.1.33-48 (LAN 3), etc. The entire 192.168.x block would be divided into 
4000+ seperate networks.

A subnet of 255.255.0.0 would turn the whole 192.168 block into your local 
network. Any machine with an ip in the range of 192.168.0-255.x could talk to 
each other.

I hope I'm making some sense...

-Tharin O.

DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tharin,
Can I ask for some more expansion on the below send?  This may be the 
critical link!

At 16:02 10/29/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>snip
>The subnet mask will determine the range of IP addresses that will be in 
>your local network. Your local network being the computers/devices you 
>have direct access to send data without needing to be handled through a router.
>
>snip
>How did you need to apply this knowledge?? Are you configuring a router or 
>small network in your home??

I was trying to have 2 subnets. Perhaps I did it wrong/badly. I have given up!
Why is the "...needing to be handled through a router" part of this 
equation?
This may be my confusion
Best,
Duncan

snip

RE: [H] wify printer ?

[Harvey Best]

One issue I had, and it might have been some thing I messed up. I installed my 
WiFi printer (HP All in One) with a wireless Netgear router, using my laptop as 
the install vehicle. The problem was if the laptop was not "on" the other 
computers on the network could not communicate with the printer. The printer 
would show as off line. I solved this problem, by hooking the printer to the 
router with a cat 5 cable and then the network didn't "lose" the printer. I was 
never really sure what was causing the problem, and the router was right at the 
printer so using the cable was not an issue.

I bought the WiFi printer as I planned to put it in a different location than 
it ended up. Again, never really sure if it was a "problem" or something I did 
wrong in install or setup.

Hope that helps, but I doubt it. lol

Harvey

MY network is a wireless laptop and desktop and 2 wired desktops.  WiFi printer 
and router. All network components are Netgear.



> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:19:54 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [H] wify printer ?
> CC: 
> 
> thanks
> 
> At 07:08 AM 10/30/2007, Joe User Poked the stick with:
> >Hello FORC5,
> >
> >Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:39:34 PM, you wrote:
> >
> >> Have to set up a wireless printer, at the moment have no idea how the 
> >> network is setup, whether a
> >> router or direct.
> >
> >> I assume this is no big deal if there is a router.
> >
> >> Fp
> >
> >
> >Wireless printer + wireless router = Easy.
> >
> >
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> 
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Re: [H] Asus bad

[FORC5]

bought this brand new, was not puffed.
Just got another RMA.

Meanwhile here I sit broken hearted >:-}

I should put Asus in my speed dial
fp

At 07:09 AM 10/30/2007, Joe User Poked the stick with:
>Hello FORC5,
>
>Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:41:36 PM, you wrote:
>
>> Sent back a MB with a blown cap on rma. mb was not giving me any
>> grief. They sent back a different one
>> with the same cap puffed.
>
>> May have to find another default MB vendor. :'(
>
>> Be on the phone in the AM to do this again.
>> fp
>
>
>Maybe they used puffy looking caps?
>
>-- 
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Re: [H] wify printer ?

[FORC5]

thanks

At 07:08 AM 10/30/2007, Joe User Poked the stick with:
>Hello FORC5,
>
>Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:39:34 PM, you wrote:
>
>> Have to set up a wireless printer, at the moment have no idea how the 
>> network is setup, whether a
>> router or direct.
>
>> I assume this is no big deal if there is a router.
>
>> Fp
>
>
>Wireless printer + wireless router = Easy.
>
>
>-- 
>Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

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Re: [H] Asus bad

[FORC5]

I have done a few myself, but this one is under warranty. I actually have a 
socket A on the bench for repair ( 3 bad caps ) but wonder if it is worth it, 
NOT.

mine is a 820uF 6.3v. I wonder if a 1000uF 6.3v would be better or maybe one 
same uF and higher V.

in the  mail today. I remember my friend had some bad caps ( MB slips my mind) 
and they  (factory) did replace them with higher capacity. )
fp

At 07:07 AM 10/30/2007, Rick Glazier Poked the stick with:
>FWIW: Me too...  (But bought used for a repair...)
>
>GIGABYTE GA-7ZXE SOCKET A 462 MOTHERBOARD ATHLON
>
>http://preview.tinyurl.com/2g4ey9
>
>Fixed it myself.
>
>   Rick Glazier
>
>
>>At 09:41 PM 29/10/2007, FORC5 wrote:
>>>Sent back a MB with a blown cap on rma. mb was not giving me any grief. They 
>>>sent back a different one with the same cap puffed.
>>>May have to find another default MB vendor. :'(
>>What motherboard model and how old was it?

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Re: [H] Asus bad

[Rick Glazier]

FWIW: Me too...  (But bought used for a repair...)

GIGABYTE GA-7ZXE SOCKET A 462 MOTHERBOARD ATHLON

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2g4ey9

Fixed it myself.

   Rick Glazier



At 09:41 PM 29/10/2007, FORC5 wrote:
Sent back a MB with a blown cap on rma. mb was not giving me any 
grief. They sent back a different one with the same cap puffed.

May have to find another default MB vendor. :'(


What motherboard model and how old was it?

Re: [H] Asus bad

[Joe User]

Hello FORC5,

Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:41:36 PM, you wrote:

> Sent back a MB with a blown cap on rma. mb was not giving me any
> grief. They sent back a different one
> with the same cap puffed.

> May have to find another default MB vendor. :'(

> Be on the phone in the AM to do this again.
> fp


Maybe they used puffy looking caps?

-- 
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Re: [H] wify printer ?

[Joe User]

Hello FORC5,

Monday, October 29, 2007, 6:39:34 PM, you wrote:

> Have to set up a wireless printer, at the moment have no idea how the network 
> is setup, whether a
> router or direct.

> I assume this is no big deal if there is a router.

> Fp


Wireless printer + wireless router = Easy.


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Re: [H] Private IP classes

[DHSinclair]

Thank you j maccraw,
That became the proof at about 0130 this morning. LOL!
I now have a cheat sheet that says exactly what you
shared. I'll update it with the correct word "octet." All is
back up and running much quicker with proper addy's
and netmasks.

Would I be correct that when using the netmask of
255.255.255.0, the network id becomes the 1st-3rd
octets, and the machine id is the 4th octet?
Best,
Duncan

At 01:41 10/30/2007 -0700, j maccraw wrote:

Netmasks determine what bits of the 32-bit address is
network id vs. machine id.

Whatever you choose for the 1st 3 octets with a
netmask of 255.255.255.0 IS
important only in that all machines must use the same
1st 3 octets. 192.168.0.1
- 192.168.0.254.

If you switch to a 255.255.0.0 netmask, then only the
1st 2 octets are
important. 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.254.



> DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, I now
use what I read is the Class C private IP address
series.
> I use 192.168.2xx.x.  I am told that my sub-net mask
should
> be 255.255.255.0.
> If this is true, then should not my chosen 3rd
quartile of "2xx" really
> be a value 0?
> Or, does it really mean that my chosen 3rd quartile
is somehow
> ignored?   Yes, I do recall discussion about this
last year, but back
> then I was using the Class A private IP
series. :)
> Thank you for any/all de-mystification.
> Best,
> Duncan
>
>
>

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Re: [H] Asus bad

[FORC5]

K8N-E deluxe. I would of though new enough for this problem to be gone. Hard to 
believe there are still sub par caps ( if that even was the problem and not the 
excuse ) still in inventory. Had same bug with a7n8x's also. This particular 
cap is not near the cpu and is just puffed, not leaking or anything. Just bugs 
me after waiting 10 weeks they send me one exactly like the one I sent them. I 
marked the mb so it is a different one. Abit claims they use good caps now but 
the last one I bought gave me so much grief I had to return it for something 
else. So I am leery of them, heard the top guys left anyway.

I am calling Asus this AM but I may just replace the cap and be done with it. 
Customer rebuild so I ordered a new board to replace it that I can use all the 
old hw on. 

fp

At 01:33 AM 10/30/2007, Thane Sherrington Poked the stick with:
>At 09:41 PM 29/10/2007, FORC5 wrote:
>>Sent back a MB with a blown cap on rma. mb was not giving me any grief. They 
>>sent back a different one with the same cap puffed.
>>May have to find another default MB vendor. :'(
>
>What motherboard model and how old was it?
>
>(I've had the same problem with Dell, btw.)
>
>T 

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Re: [H] Private IP classes

[j maccraw]

Netmasks determine what bits of the 32-bit address is
network id vs. machine id.

Whatever you choose for the 1st 3 octets with a
netmask of 255.255.255.0 IS 
important only in that all machines must use the same
1st 3 octets. 192.168.0.1 
- 192.168.0.254.

If you switch to a 255.255.0.0 netmask, then only the
1st 2 octets are 
important. 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.254.



> DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, I now
use what I read is the Class C private IP address
series.
> I use 192.168.2xx.x.  I am told that my sub-net mask
should
> be 255.255.255.0.
> If this is true, then should not my chosen 3rd
quartile of "2xx" really
> be a value 0?
> Or, does it really mean that my chosen 3rd quartile
is somehow
> ignored?   Yes, I do recall discussion about this
last year, but back
> then I was using the Class A private IP
series. :)
> Thank you for any/all de-mystification.
> Best,
> Duncan
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [H] Asus bad

[Thane Sherrington]

At 09:41 PM 29/10/2007, FORC5 wrote:
Sent back a MB with a blown cap on rma. mb was not giving me any 
grief. They sent back a different one with the same cap puffed.

May have to find another default MB vendor. :'(


What motherboard model and how old was it?

(I've had the same problem with Dell, btw.)

T