[H] Memory Effects

2009-10-24 Thread Steve Tomporowski
My main box has a P45 Gigbyte UDP MB which currently has 4GB of OCZ 
memory.  I have another 4GB of generic memory that would be nice to add 
to the system (I'm on Win7 64bit).  Just wondering what the effects will 
be of two sets of 4GB memory from different manufacturers.  I suppose 
the memory would all operate at the speed of the slowest pair, but are 
there any other weird effects that may occur.  Or basically:  Good idea 
or bad idea?  Opinions?


Thanks...Steve


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[H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the 
system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk 
action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a 
game, then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a 
delay, I get the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, 
the next message goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  
I'll click on a drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and 
then the moving bar, then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of 
course, after that point, everything works quickly.  My power settings 
are for always on, so it's not a power down.  Anyone else seen this?


ThanksSteve


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[H] Free video editing software which will rotate the frames?

2009-10-24 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I'm looking for a free program that will read an MOV file and then allow 
you to rotate the frames of the image by both 90 degrees and 180 degrees.


Anyone know of anything?  This is a two shot deal, so I don't plan to 
have this need for long. I have one video that I shot with the camera on 
its side, so it needs a 90 degree rotation...I'm about to do another 
with the camera upside down, so it will need 180 degree rotate so that 
one can view it in a way that it appears normal.


Thanks.


Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread amartin
Yes. It is annoying. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:25:22 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H]  Win7 and Hard Drives

I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the 
system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk 
action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a 
game, then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a 
delay, I get the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, 
the next message goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  
I'll click on a drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and 
then the moving bar, then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of 
course, after that point, everything works quickly.  My power settings 
are for always on, so it's not a power down.  Anyone else seen this?

ThanksSteve


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[H] w7 key

2009-10-24 Thread FORC5
annoying, the key is so small I need a magnifying glass to properly read it, 
may just be my age :-D

just got in w7 64 ultimate to play with on my server, not ready to loose my 
older programs on my work box :-|

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Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Thanks.  I was really fishing around to find out if it was my system or 
universal.


Steve

amar...@charter.net wrote:
Yes. It is annoying. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


-Original Message-
From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:25:22 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Subject: [H]  Win7 and Hard Drives

I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the 
system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk 
action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a 
game, then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a 
delay, I get the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, 
the next message goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  
I'll click on a drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and 
then the moving bar, then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of 
course, after that point, everything works quickly.  My power settings 
are for always on, so it's not a power down.  Anyone else seen this?


ThanksSteve


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Re: [H] Memory Effects

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
Are you using Photoshop or other serious memory use program? If not, you 
might want to use that 4 GB's generic for something else. 8 Gigs is cool 
but definitely overkill for normal PC's.



Steve Tomporowski wrote:
My main box has a P45 Gigbyte UDP MB which currently has 4GB of OCZ 
memory.  I have another 4GB of generic memory that would be nice to 
add to the system (I'm on Win7 64bit).  Just wondering what the 
effects will be of two sets of 4GB memory from different 
manufacturers.  I suppose the memory would all operate at the speed of 
the slowest pair, but are there any other weird effects that may 
occur.  Or basically:  Good idea or bad idea?  Opinions?


Thanks...Steve


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Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP. 
Better pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot 
controller. LOL



Steve Tomporowski wrote:
I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the 
system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a 
disk action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be 
playing a game, then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, 
there is a delay, I get the circle, then finally it moves the 
message.  Of course, the next message goes quickly.  The same with 
getting disk directories.  I'll click on a drive, get the 1st half of 
folders, then the circle and then the moving bar, then it finally 
gives me all the folders.  Of course, after that point, everything 
works quickly.  My power settings are for always on, so it's not a 
power down.  Anyone else seen this?


ThanksSteve


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Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users
for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to
settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most new
games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and I
have yet to saturate all 4 processors.

---
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Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP. Better
 pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot
 controller. LOL



 Steve Tomporowski wrote:

 I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the
 system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk
 action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a game,
 then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a delay, I get
 the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, the next message
 goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  I'll click on a
 drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and then the moving bar,
 then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of course, after that point,
 everything works quickly.  My power settings are for always on, so it's not
 a power down.  Anyone else seen this?

 ThanksSteve


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Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor 
you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there 
are times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as 
soon as price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel 
quad core processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get 
it used because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL



Brian Weeden wrote:

Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users
for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to
settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most new
games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and I
have yet to saturate all 4 processors.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP. Better
pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot
controller. LOL



Steve Tomporowski wrote:



I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the
system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk
action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a game,
then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a delay, I get
the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, the next message
goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  I'll click on a
drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and then the moving bar,
then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of course, after that point,
everything works quickly.  My power settings are for always on, so it's not
a power down.  Anyone else seen this?

ThanksSteve


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Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008.  I consider that to be a dirt cheap
price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4 years.
I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just fine.


The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth.  And yes, I
am running a 24 LCD.  I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI,
but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to
get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole
new card.  The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon Age:Origins
- will probably run just fine on my current setup.

However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had for
years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data).  So my upgrade this winter will be Windows
7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and a
SSD boot drive.  But I have no incentive to change my CPU.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

 With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor
 you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there are
 times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as
 price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core
 processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used
 because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL


 Brian Weeden wrote:

 Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users
 for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to
 settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

 Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most new
 games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
 Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and I
 have yet to saturate all 4 processors.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Technical Advisor
 Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org

 Montreal Office
 +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
 +1 (202) 683-8534 US


 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP.
 Better
 pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot
 controller. LOL



 Steve Tomporowski wrote:



 I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the
 system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk
 action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a
 game,
 then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a delay, I
 get
 the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, the next
 message
 goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  I'll click on a
 drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and then the moving
 bar,
 then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of course, after that point,
 everything works quickly.  My power settings are for always on, so it's
 not
 a power down.  Anyone else seen this?

 ThanksSteve


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Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske

I have something you might be interested in Brian:


   Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free

http://bit.ly/8dUTM


Brian Weeden wrote:

I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008.  I consider that to be a dirt cheap
price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4 years.
I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just fine.


The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth.  And yes, I
am running a 24 LCD.  I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI,
but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to
get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole
new card.  The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon Age:Origins
- will probably run just fine on my current setup.

However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had for
years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data).  So my upgrade this winter will be Windows
7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and a
SSD boot drive.  But I have no incentive to change my CPU.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor
you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there are
times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as
price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core
processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used
because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL


Brian Weeden wrote:



Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users
for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to
settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most new
games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and I
have yet to saturate all 4 processors.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org

Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:



  

Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP.
Better
pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot
controller. LOL



Steve Tomporowski wrote:





I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the
system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk
action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a
game,
then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a delay, I
get
the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, the next
message
goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  I'll click on a
drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and then the moving
bar,
then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of course, after that point,
everything works quickly.  My power settings are for always on, so it's
not
a power down.  Anyone else seen this?

ThanksSteve


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Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs.  With a toddler in the
house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time
sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and
WoW).

Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Civ 4 (still going strong), Dead
Space, the Witcher - those are my type of games now.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have something you might be interested in Brian:


   Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free

 http://bit.ly/8dUTM


 Brian Weeden wrote:

 I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008.  I consider that to be a dirt
 cheap
 price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4
 years.
 I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just
 fine.


 The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth.  And yes,
 I
 am running a 24 LCD.  I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI,
 but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to
 get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole
 new card.  The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon
 Age:Origins
 - will probably run just fine on my current setup.

 However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had
 for
 years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data).  So my upgrade this winter will be
 Windows
 7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and
 a
 SSD boot drive.  But I have no incentive to change my CPU.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Technical Advisor
 Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
 Montreal Office
 +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
 +1 (202) 683-8534 US


 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:



 With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor
 you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there
 are
 times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as
 price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core
 processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used
 because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL


 Brian Weeden wrote:



 Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer
 users
 for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to
 settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

 Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most
 new
 games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
 Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and
 I
 have yet to saturate all 4 processors.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Technical Advisor
 Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org

 Montreal Office
 +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
 +1 (202) 683-8534 US


 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:





 Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP.
 Better
 pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot
 controller. LOL



 Steve Tomporowski wrote:





 I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the
 system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a
 disk
 action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a
 game,
 then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a delay, I
 get
 the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, the next
 message
 goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  I'll click on
 a
 drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and then the
 moving
 bar,
 then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of course, after that
 point,
 everything works quickly.  My power settings are for always on, so
 it's
 not
 a power down.  Anyone else seen this?

 ThanksSteve


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 signature database 4537 (20091023) __

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Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread DSinc

Brian,
Thanks for the excellent report of your choices and use. I agree that 
you do need the power you chose. For, me, I have had perfect service 
from my trio of E8400 C2D's (now 1yr old) that run 24/7. Once I got all 
the user-caused glitches worked out, these three procs now simply own 
me! I am seriously thinking of adding a 4th identical platform to my LAN 
just because they run so well. I have yet to find anything they will NOT 
do quickly and easily.


My gaming is limited to FlightSim 2K and the last three Tomb Raider 
episodes. I use nVidia 9600 GT's (2) and one ATI4750. All three PC's 
have 2GB of DDR3 RAM; and, use 160GB SATA drives from Seagate.


May not be a Power-Ranger any longer, but these 3 units just really run 
so sweet. I am very very happy. (Thanks List for suggestions).

Best,
Duncan


Brian Weeden wrote:

I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008.  I consider that to be a dirt cheap
price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4 years.
I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just fine.


The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth.  And yes, I
am running a 24 LCD.  I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI,
but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to
get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole
new card.  The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon Age:Origins
- will probably run just fine on my current setup.

However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had for
years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data).  So my upgrade this winter will be Windows
7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and a
SSD boot drive.  But I have no incentive to change my CPU.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:


With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor
you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there are
times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as
price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core
processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used
because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL


Brian Weeden wrote:


Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users
for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to
settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most new
games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and I
have yet to saturate all 4 processors.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org

Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:




Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP.
Better
pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot
controller. LOL



Steve Tomporowski wrote:




I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the
system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk
action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a
game,
then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a delay, I
get
the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, the next
message
goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  I'll click on a
drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and then the moving
bar,
then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of course, after that point,
everything works quickly.  My power settings are for always on, so it's
not
a power down.  Anyone else seen this?

ThanksSteve


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Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
The recent Tomb Raider games (esp Legend) have been pretty darn good.

---
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Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:57 PM, DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Brian,
 Thanks for the excellent report of your choices and use. I agree that you
 do need the power you chose. For, me, I have had perfect service from my
 trio of E8400 C2D's (now 1yr old) that run 24/7. Once I got all the
 user-caused glitches worked out, these three procs now simply own me! I am
 seriously thinking of adding a 4th identical platform to my LAN just because
 they run so well. I have yet to find anything they will NOT do quickly and
 easily.

 My gaming is limited to FlightSim 2K and the last three Tomb Raider
 episodes. I use nVidia 9600 GT's (2) and one ATI4750. All three PC's have
 2GB of DDR3 RAM; and, use 160GB SATA drives from Seagate.

 May not be a Power-Ranger any longer, but these 3 units just really run so
 sweet. I am very very happy. (Thanks List for suggestions).
 Best,
 Duncan


 Brian Weeden wrote:

 I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008.  I consider that to be a dirt
 cheap
 price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4
 years.
 I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just
 fine.


 The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth.  And yes,
 I
 am running a 24 LCD.  I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI,
 but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to
 get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole
 new card.  The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon
 Age:Origins
 - will probably run just fine on my current setup.

 However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had
 for
 years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data).  So my upgrade this winter will be
 Windows
 7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and
 a
 SSD boot drive.  But I have no incentive to change my CPU.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Technical Advisor
 Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
 Montreal Office
 +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
 +1 (202) 683-8534 US


 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

  With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor
 you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there
 are
 times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as
 price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core
 processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used
 because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL


 Brian Weeden wrote:

  Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer
 users
 for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to
 settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

 Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most
 new
 games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
 Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and
 I
 have yet to saturate all 4 processors.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Technical Advisor
 Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org

 Montreal Office
 +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
 +1 (202) 683-8534 US


 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP.
 Better
 pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot
 controller. LOL



 Steve Tomporowski wrote:



  I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the
 system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a
 disk
 action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a
 game,
 then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a delay, I
 get
 the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, the next
 message
 goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  I'll click on
 a
 drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and then the
 moving
 bar,
 then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of course, after that
 point,
 everything works quickly.  My power settings are for always on, so
 it's
 not
 a power down.  Anyone else seen this?

 ThanksSteve


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 http://www.eset.com












Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
It's my first MMO. After all these years of playing games it took the 
words Dungeons and Dragons and free to get me to try it. I still 
play it in single player mode however. Someday I'll take the plunge and 
join a social group. Probably get eaten alive by the kids in there. LOL



Brian Weeden wrote:

I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs.  With a toddler in the
house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time
sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and
WoW).

Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Civ 4 (still going strong), Dead
Space, the Witcher - those are my type of games now.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

I have something you might be interested in Brian:


  Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free

http://bit.ly/8dUTM


Brian Weeden wrote:



I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008.  I consider that to be a dirt
cheap
price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4
years.
I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just
fine.


The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth.  And yes,
I
am running a 24 LCD.  I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI,
but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to
get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole
new card.  The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon
Age:Origins
- will probably run just fine on my current setup.

However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had
for
years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data).  So my upgrade this winter will be
Windows
7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and
a
SSD boot drive.  But I have no incentive to change my CPU.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:



  

With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor
you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there
are
times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as
price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core
processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used
because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL


Brian Weeden wrote:





Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer
users
for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to
settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most
new
games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and
I
have yet to saturate all 4 processors.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org

Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:





  

Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP.
Better
pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot
controller. LOL



Steve Tomporowski wrote:







I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7.  It seems like the
system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a
disk
action, you get a substantial delay.  For instance, I'll be playing a
game,
then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a delay, I
get
the circle, then finally it moves the message.  Of course, the next
message
goes quickly.  The same with getting disk directories.  I'll click on
a
drive, get the 1st half of folders, then the circle and then the
moving
bar,
then it finally gives me all the folders.  Of course, after that
point,
everything works quickly.  My power settings are for always on, so
it's
not
a power down.  Anyone else seen this?

ThanksSteve


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signature database 4537 (20091023) __

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

http://www.eset.com








  



  



  




Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
I didn't playing MMOs because they sucked, quite the opposite.  I liked them
a bit TOO much, and I just don't have room in my current life for the time
commitment they require.  i still have some very fond memories.

Running a guild in a MUD in college (Dragons, Legends and Lore) and spending
days working through the hardest area.  It was this massive tower with a
Royal family, and there were somewhere around 15 secret doors you had to
find by reading room clues to get all the way to the top and find out what's
really going on.

Being part of an all-night 100-person raiding part in DAOC and taking the
last treasure fort.  Tanking in Darkness Falls and seeing a party run by
followed closely by thatT huge Prince dude with the wings and his entourage
in hot pursuit.

Sitting on a hill overlooking a 700-person battle for a bridge and an island
in Planetside, with tanks and bombers and mechs everywhere.  Could almost
smell the napalm.

Llama hunting with a bunch of friends and disc shooters in Tribes 2, and
hitting that perfect cap run where everything from flag grab to the escape
is one long glide.

Taking our time to work through the entire Temple of Atal'hakkar in WoW with
some close friends in one sitting and appreciating the little details the
designers put in.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It's my first MMO. After all these years of playing games it took the words
 Dungeons and Dragons and free to get me to try it. I still play it in
 single player mode however. Someday I'll take the plunge and join a social
 group. Probably get eaten alive by the kids in there. LOL


 Brian Weeden wrote:

 I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs.  With a toddler in the
 house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time
 sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and
 WoW).

 Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Civ 4 (still going strong),
 Dead
 Space, the Witcher - those are my type of games now.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Technical Advisor
 Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
 Montreal Office
 +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
 +1 (202) 683-8534 US


 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I have something you might be interested in Brian:


  Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free

 http://bit.ly/8dUTM


 Brian Weeden wrote:



 I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008.  I consider that to be a dirt
 cheap
 price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4
 years.
 I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just
 fine.


 The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth.  And
 yes,
 I
 am running a 24 LCD.  I've considered getting another 4850 and doing
 SLI,
 but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going
 to
 get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a
 whole
 new card.  The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon
 Age:Origins
 - will probably run just fine on my current setup.

 However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had
 for
 years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data).  So my upgrade this winter will be
 Windows
 7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs),
 and
 a
 SSD boot drive.  But I have no incentive to change my CPU.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Technical Advisor
 Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
 Montreal Office
 +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
 +1 (202) 683-8534 US


 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:





 With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30
 monitor
 you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there
 are
 times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon
 as
 price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad
 core
 processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used
 because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL


 Brian Weeden wrote:





 Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer
 users
 for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact
 to
 settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

 Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most
 new
 games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
 Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap
 and
 I
 have yet to saturate all 4 processors.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Technical Advisor
 Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org

 Montreal Office
 +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
 +1 (202) 683-8534 US


 On 

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
You're one of those kids that would probably eat me alive and I didn't 
say that MMO's suck and heard that you're a new daddy. Congratulations 
by the way. Child gets a little older: think of the MMO possibilities. 
You know, after school and sports of course. :-)



Brian Weeden wrote:

I didn't playing MMOs because they sucked, quite the opposite.  I liked them
a bit TOO much, and I just don't have room in my current life for the time
commitment they require.  i still have some very fond memories.

Running a guild in a MUD in college (Dragons, Legends and Lore) and spending
days working through the hardest area.  It was this massive tower with a
Royal family, and there were somewhere around 15 secret doors you had to
find by reading room clues to get all the way to the top and find out what's
really going on.

Being part of an all-night 100-person raiding part in DAOC and taking the
last treasure fort.  Tanking in Darkness Falls and seeing a party run by
followed closely by thatT huge Prince dude with the wings and his entourage
in hot pursuit.

Sitting on a hill overlooking a 700-person battle for a bridge and an island
in Planetside, with tanks and bombers and mechs everywhere.  Could almost
smell the napalm.

Llama hunting with a bunch of friends and disc shooters in Tribes 2, and
hitting that perfect cap run where everything from flag grab to the escape
is one long glide.

Taking our time to work through the entire Temple of Atal'hakkar in WoW with
some close friends in one sitting and appreciating the little details the
designers put in.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

It's my first MMO. After all these years of playing games it took the words
Dungeons and Dragons and free to get me to try it. I still play it in
single player mode however. Someday I'll take the plunge and join a social
group. Probably get eaten alive by the kids in there. LOL


Brian Weeden wrote:



I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs.  With a toddler in the
house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time
sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and
WoW).

Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Civ 4 (still going strong),
Dead
Space, the Witcher - those are my type of games now.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:



  

I have something you might be interested in Brian:


 Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free

http://bit.ly/8dUTM


Brian Weeden wrote:





I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008.  I consider that to be a dirt
cheap
price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4
years.
I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just
fine.


The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth.  And
yes,
I
am running a 24 LCD.  I've considered getting another 4850 and doing
SLI,
but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going
to
get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a
whole
new card.  The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon
Age:Origins
- will probably run just fine on my current setup.

However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had
for
years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data).  So my upgrade this winter will be
Windows
7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs),
and
a
SSD boot drive.  But I have no incentive to change my CPU.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote:





  

With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30
monitor
you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there
are
times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon
as
price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad
core
processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used
because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL


Brian Weeden wrote:







Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer
users
for years now.  I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact
to
settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area.

Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by.  I play most
new
games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years.
Processor?  The quad core intel I bought 2 years