Re: [H] NetGear WNDR3700
I updated the firmware first thing... The channel 6 thing workedexceptthe laptop gets confused if I enable the guest networkif I disable that, it can connect to the non-guest 2.4 G network. The Tivo could find the 2.4 G (non-guest) once I set the channel to 6. the laptop claims to support 802.11n, but the network seems to be locked at 100 Mbps. Isn't N supposed to be faster than that? It seems I can get 2.5 MB/s (~21 Mbps) downloads...which ain't to hot...I was getting faster over the powerline networkon this laptop. On 5/12/2010 1:59 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Are both n and g enabled? Set the band to 6 just to make sure. Also give the firmware update a go. On May 12, 2010 5:57 AM, "Anthony Q. Martin" wrote: Man...none of my stuff can see any wireless signals coming from this router. I'm wondering if it is sending out any signals. It's setup to broadcast its SSID but even with my laptop right next to it, it can't see it. What gives here? The wired 1000Gbps ports work fine and the lights for the 2.4GHZ and 5 GHz wireless are shining bright. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/11/10 14:40:00
[H] Any Thuban users yet?
Finished the day yesterday finding just how low my CPU would undervolt and it became Prime95 64bit unstable at -0.325 vcore but going up one notch solved that. I have the latest CPUz and Speedfan and they both agree that fully loaded the vcore is 1.12v and with CnQ enabled 0.912v at 800 MHz. Don't know if these numbers are accurate because the BIOS says I'm running at 1.30v on my AM2+ 785/SB710 Gigabyte mobo. I don't think Turbo Core is working either because all 6 cores run at full blast during fully loaded conditions. Probably have to have an 800 series chipset..
Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)
really curious about these units, other then a wify adapter only way to connect my blueray to the network but I am wondering can multiple outlets be used with only one connected to the router ? Like one at the router, one at the tv and one in my shop ( currently on a bridge, WAN works great, LAN is poky) That would seem like a conflict ur are the matched and I would need two at the router. interesting technology, really curious how this works. Fred At 02:12 PM 5/11/2010, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with: >Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but still >running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100. > >Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the PL >adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other piece (I >got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace. So right now I have the >laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the wireless >signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps network >(what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files). > >Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at 92 >Mbps. > >So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that. > >I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to get >that up, so I'm doing simple tests first. > >On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: >>I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently >>glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere. >> >>lopaka >> >> >> >> >> >>From: Anthony Q. Martin >>To: The Hardware List >>Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM >>Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N) >> >>Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that >>perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could >>connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a special >>adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or >>something like that, I have a ready solution for networking. From some >>reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is best, followed by >>a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. Is that true? I live in >>a two story house, so one wondering if the wiring is truly connected between >>the levels. >> >>Anyone played with one? >> >>I guess I can be the tester... >> >> >>- >> >>So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter. >> >>I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL. >> >>Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster. >> >>But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system? Are >>the backward compaticable? >> >>Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use 802.11n >>on its WiFi? What about an iPad? Is everything new these days 802.11n ready? >> >>I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and neither >>of them mentioned backwards compatibility. That makes me think it's not >>there. >> >>If it is there, which router is best? >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/10/10 >>02:26:00 >> >> > >__ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >database 5106 (20100511) __ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- "Five second fuses only last three seconds." -Infantry Journal
Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)
My brother in law uses Netgear HD ones, and they work perfectly for streaming 1080p MKV movies. My dad uses it in his computer room since the wifi router's signal there is 1 bar or no bars (i.e. flaky) I personally would not use them since I need raw speed, but my Wireless N access point works great for streaming 1080p content to my media player. The only problem is that seeking is a bit slow, but not to the point of pulling out my hair. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:13 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N) really curious about these units, other then a wify adapter only way to connect my blueray to the network but I am wondering can multiple outlets be used with only one connected to the router ? Like one at the router, one at the tv and one in my shop ( currently on a bridge, WAN works great, LAN is poky) That would seem like a conflict ur are the matched and I would need two at the router. interesting technology, really curious how this works. Fred At 02:12 PM 5/11/2010, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with: >Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100. > >Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the PL adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other piece (I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace. So right now I have the laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the wireless signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps network (what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files). > >Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at 92 Mbps. > >So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that. > >I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to get that up, so I'm doing simple tests first. > >On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: >>I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere. >> >>lopaka >> >> >> >> >> >>From: Anthony Q. Martin >>To: The Hardware List >>Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM >>Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N) >> >>Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a special adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or something like that, I have a ready solution for networking. >From some reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is best, followed by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. Is that true? I live in a two story house, so one wondering if the wiring is truly connected between the levels. >> >>Anyone played with one? >> >>I guess I can be the tester... >> >> >>- >> >>So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter. >> >>I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL. >> >>Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster. >> >>But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system? Are the backward compaticable? >> >>Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use 802.11n on its WiFi? What about an iPad? Is everything new these days 802.11n ready? >> >>I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility. That makes me think it's not there. >> >>If it is there, which router is best? >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/10/10 02:26:00 >> >> > >__ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5106 (20100511) __ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- "Five second fuses only last three seconds." -Infantry Journal
Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)
thanks helps fp At 07:18 AM 5/12/2010, Naushad, Zulfiqar Poked the stick with: >My brother in law uses Netgear HD ones, and they work perfectly for >streaming 1080p MKV movies. > >My dad uses it in his computer room since the wifi router's signal there >is 1 bar or no bars (i.e. flaky) > >I personally would not use them since I need raw speed, but my Wireless >N access point works great for streaming 1080p content to my media >player. > >The only problem is that seeking is a bit slow, but not to the point of >pulling out my hair. > > > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- If voting changed anything, it would be made illegal.
Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
Well thought I'd share my results as a data point: Got a Lenovo (aka IBM) T61 laptop from circa late 2007. It's the Santa Rosa mobile platform, specifically an Intel Core 2 Duo Merom 2nd gen processor (T7500 @ 2.2Ghz). I don't know what the exact chipset is (anyone know an easy way to find that with an app...?) but in any case the chipset it what usually came with that chip. So I installed Win7 Ent 64-bit (and remember I only have 4GB TOTAL memory installed) and on the System screen, the machine went from saying 3.2GB usable out of the 4GB installed (which was with Win7 32-bit), to just saying a plain 4GB RAM installed with nothing missing... So it looks like even though I only have 4GB physical memory, the MMIO devices don't need to reserve any of my 4GB of memory b/c they can map above it (I assume up to 8GB in my case). So based on the KB article, I assume if I upgraded to 8GB of RAM, it would show 7.2GB of RAM b/c then the devices would still need to map and since 8GB is their max, it would take away from my physical memory...I'll see if I can get 8GB of RAM for it and test this out! ;) BINO > Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 15:51:37 -0700 > From: maccr...@gmail.com > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit? > > Differing amounts of "memory hole" from differing configurations would be my > guess > before blaming a bug. > > Agreed, with driver support (on new devices at least) finally happening there > is no > reason to use x32. > > On 5/1/2010 3:16 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > Seems to be a bug or a chipset thing if it's different on different > > systems, all with 4G of ram. > > Either way there's no reason to not use a 64 bit os in 2010. > > > > On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 10:43:14AM -0700, maccrawj wrote: > >> Sorry, your point/counterpoint is? Think I'm missing something here. > >> > >> > >> On 5/1/2010 7:28 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > >>> Well no, I've seen systems with 4G of memory show: > >>> > >>> 2.5G > >>> 2.8G > >>> 3.5G > >>> > >>> with /PAE > >>> > >>> :) >
Re: [H] NetGear WNDR3700
Bam! I got my Dell Latitude XT to recognize the 5G band of the 3700! Now it reports 270 Mbps. Haven't had time to test it, though, but that's a feel good moment. Turns out the problems was the damn laptop. It has a Dell Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n WLAN Mini card in it. Googling revealed all kind of problems with this cardbut I finally got around to looking for a Windows 7 64-bit driver. That got me to someone claiming that the updated driver for this device has the problems. So the solution was the delete it (and the files too) and let Win7 reinstall its stock driver. Well, lo and behold, the laptop now sees both the 2.4 and 5 G band networks, as well as their SSIDs. Simple matter after that to get up and going. Not sure I'm going to let the laptop live there, though. I don't really need it for faster downloads. I'd like to give all of that bandwidth to my Tivo downstairs, if possible. On the other hand...I don't use the laptop that much here so sharing probably wouldn't be much of a problem. But now I can use the laptop to see what kind of 5GHz signal I get downstairs near the Tivo. I swore a long time ago to NEVER buy another dell anything. What I didn't swear was to let someone else buy me a dell something. Well, no more dell for me. Period. Same with Apple. Did y'all hear that Verzion and Google claim to be working on an Android Tablet? I hope they keep on track with that as competition is a good thing. On 5/12/2010 1:59 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Are both n and g enabled? Set the band to 6 just to make sure. Also give the firmware update a go. On May 12, 2010 5:57 AM, "Anthony Q. Martin" wrote: Man...none of my stuff can see any wireless signals coming from this router. I'm wondering if it is sending out any signals. It's setup to broadcast its SSID but even with my laptop right next to it, it can't see it. What gives here? The wired 1000Gbps ports work fine and the lights for the 2.4GHZ and 5 GHz wireless are shining bright. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/11/10 14:40:00
Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
On Wed, 12 May 2010, Bino Gopal wrote: Well thought I'd share my results as a data point: Got a Lenovo (aka IBM) T61 laptop from circa late 2007. It's the Santa Rosa mobile platform, specifically an Intel Core 2 Duo Merom 2nd gen processor (T7500 @ 2.2Ghz). I don't know what the exact chipset is (anyone know an easy way to find that with an app...?) but in any case the chipset it what usually came with that chip. So I installed Win7 Ent 64-bit (and remember I only have 4GB TOTAL memory installed) and on the System screen, the machine went from saying 3.2GB usable out of the 4GB installed (which was with Win7 32-bit), to just saying a plain 4GB RAM installed with nothing missing... So it looks like even though I only have 4GB physical memory, the MMIO devices don't need to reserve any of my 4GB of memory b/c they can map above it (I assume up to 8GB in my case). So based on the KB article, I assume if I upgraded to 8GB of RAM, it would show 7.2GB of RAM b/c then the devices would still need to map and since 8GB is their max, it would take away from my physical memory...I'll see if I can get 8GB of RAM for it and test this out! ;) Incorrect unfortunately. There were so many complaints/questions from people with the "I have 4GB installed why does it only say 3.5GB" that Microsoft now reports the INSTALLED memory as the full 4GB, but you still can't use it all. I believe in 32bit Windows 7 you can see the true number in task manager or process explorer. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=VS.85%29.aspx Microsoft isn't kidding when they say 4GB for windows 7. They are not mapping things above that. They just removed showing you the real number in the system tab. Christopher Fisk
[H] Mozilla Thunderbird Experts ?
I would like to speak with anyone who understands Mozilla-Thunderbird. I still like it, sort of. Mozzy/TBIRD is trying my patience ATM. I accept total fault now :( Will admit it may be my DunderHead code-driving ability. Still in my learning curve. I have no other option! I will NOT do email via a browser-based EMAIL Portal! I have 2 of these portals now. HWG mail inbound traverses neither of these portals! Thank you. Best, D
Re: [H] Mozilla Thunderbird Experts ?
What's the problem Duncan? On 5/12/2010 12:49 PM, DSinc wrote: I would like to speak with anyone who understands Mozilla-Thunderbird. I still like it, sort of. Mozzy/TBIRD is trying my patience ATM. I accept total fault now :( Will admit it may be my DunderHead code-driving ability. Still in my learning curve. I have no other option! I will NOT do email via a browser-based EMAIL Portal! I have 2 of these portals now. HWG mail inbound traverses neither of these portals! Thank you. Best, D
Re: [H] Mozilla Thunderbird Experts ?
I'm using 3.0.4 and I don't like it. I think the new directory structure in the left pane is a pain. My SPAM has increased exponentially in the past week or so as well. Anybody else seeing this? On 5/12/2010 2:49 PM, DSinc wrote: I would like to speak with anyone who understands Mozilla-Thunderbird. I still like it, sort of. Mozzy/TBIRD is trying my patience ATM. I accept total fault now :( Will admit it may be my DunderHead code-driving ability. Still in my learning curve. I have no other option! I will NOT do email via a browser-based EMAIL Portal! I have 2 of these portals now. HWG mail inbound traverses neither of these portals! Thank you. Best, D
Re: [H] Mozilla Thunderbird Experts ?
Bothered me when I first upgraded to TB3 but I've gotten use to it. Typically it stays on "unread folders" 99% of the time which serves me fine. SPAM wise nothing unusual here, light flow of new unfiltered, don't check my junk that often. On 5/12/2010 1:39 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: I'm using 3.0.4 and I don't like it. I think the new directory structure in the left pane is a pain. My SPAM has increased exponentially in the past week or so as well. Anybody else seeing this? On 5/12/2010 2:49 PM, DSinc wrote: I would like to speak with anyone who understands Mozilla-Thunderbird. I still like it, sort of. Mozzy/TBIRD is trying my patience ATM. I accept total fault now :( Will admit it may be my DunderHead code-driving ability. Still in my learning curve. I have no other option! I will NOT do email via a browser-based EMAIL Portal! I have 2 of these portals now. HWG mail inbound traverses neither of these portals! Thank you. Best, D
Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
Well 32bit I dunno as none of my x32 boxes have more than 2GB. Process Explorer lists 4,192,372 here on Win7 x64. They adjusted the reported amount for x32 but it was a minor 3GB fractional amount not to report fake full 4GB. On 5/12/2010 12:36 PM, Christopher Fisk wrote: Incorrect unfortunately. There were so many complaints/questions from people with the "I have 4GB installed why does it only say 3.5GB" that Microsoft now reports the INSTALLED memory as the full 4GB, but you still can't use it all. I believe in 32bit Windows 7 you can see the true number in task manager or process explorer. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=VS.85%29.aspx Microsoft isn't kidding when they say 4GB for windows 7. They are not mapping things above that. They just removed showing you the real number in the system tab. Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] NetGear WNDR3700
Keep the n band for the TiVo and the other for the laptop. Glad you like the router. Mine has been rock solid for months now. Probably the best router I have owned. Let me know how the signal strength is near the TiVo. On my Google phone I downloaded an app called wifi analyzer. And it let me find the least crowded channel for my wifi. Worked like a charm. I suggest doing the same via your laptop. I forgot the name of the software but it does the same thing. On May 12, 2010 10:32 PM, "Anthony Q. Martin" wrote: Bam! I got my Dell Latitude XT to recognize the 5G band of the 3700! Now it reports 270 Mbps. Haven't had time to test it, though, but that's a feel good moment. Turns out the problems was the damn laptop. It has a Dell Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n WLAN Mini card in it. Googling revealed all kind of problems with this cardbut I finally got around to looking for a Windows 7 64-bit driver. That got me to someone claiming that the updated driver for this device has the problems. So the solution was the delete it (and the files too) and let Win7 reinstall its stock driver. Well, lo and behold, the laptop now sees both the 2.4 and 5 G band networks, as well as their SSIDs. Simple matter after that to get up and going. Not sure I'm going to let the laptop live there, though. I don't really need it for faster downloads. I'd like to give all of that bandwidth to my Tivo downstairs, if possible. On the other hand...I don't use the laptop that much here so sharing probably wouldn't be much of a problem. But now I can use the laptop to see what kind of 5GHz signal I get downstairs near the Tivo. I swore a long time ago to NEVER buy another dell anything. What I didn't swear was to let someone else buy me a dell something. Well, no more dell for me. Period. Same with Apple. Did y'all hear that Verzion and Google claim to be working on an Android Tablet? I hope they keep on track with that as competition is a good thing. On 5/12/2010 1:59 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > > > > Are both n and g enabled? > > > > Set the band to 6 just to make sure. Also give the firmware update... > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus... >
[H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Open question?
Still wired LAN at my house. - Original Message - From: "DSinc" To: "Hardware Group" Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 16:24 Subject: [H] Open question? Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Open question?
tnx Veech. (thought so!) Duncan On 05/12/2010 19:30, Veech wrote: Still wired LAN at my house. - Original Message - From: "DSinc" To: "Hardware Group" Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 16:24 Subject: [H] Open question? Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Open question?
Wired is the best option if you can make it happen for all needs. But wifi works great for lots of applications. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: DSinc Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 19:24:52 To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] Open question? Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Open question?
both. fp At 04:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc Poked the stick with: >Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now >actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? > >No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! >The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) > >(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) > >Just wondering? >Best, >Duncan > >__ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >database 5110 (20100512) __ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- HaHaHa! Yuk, Yuk. Snort. Harumph.
Re: [H] NetGear WNDR3700
yep, the router rocks. Can't believe I went so long without upgrading. Never thought to match the channel...need that software On 5/12/2010 7:05 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Keep the n band for the TiVo and the other for the laptop. Glad you like the router. Mine has been rock solid for months now. Probably the best router I have owned. Let me know how the signal strength is near the TiVo. On my Google phone I downloaded an app called wifi analyzer. And it let me find the least crowded channel for my wifi. Worked like a charm. I suggest doing the same via your laptop. I forgot the name of the software but it does the same thing. On May 12, 2010 10:32 PM, "Anthony Q. Martin" wrote: Bam! I got my Dell Latitude XT to recognize the 5G band of the 3700! Now it reports 270 Mbps. Haven't had time to test it, though, but that's a feel good moment. Turns out the problems was the damn laptop. It has a Dell Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n WLAN Mini card in it. Googling revealed all kind of problems with this cardbut I finally got around to looking for a Windows 7 64-bit driver. That got me to someone claiming that the updated driver for this device has the problems. So the solution was the delete it (and the files too) and let Win7 reinstall its stock driver. Well, lo and behold, the laptop now sees both the 2.4 and 5 G band networks, as well as their SSIDs. Simple matter after that to get up and going. Not sure I'm going to let the laptop live there, though. I don't really need it for faster downloads. I'd like to give all of that bandwidth to my Tivo downstairs, if possible. On the other hand...I don't use the laptop that much here so sharing probably wouldn't be much of a problem. But now I can use the laptop to see what kind of 5GHz signal I get downstairs near the Tivo. I swore a long time ago to NEVER buy another dell anything. What I didn't swear was to let someone else buy me a dell something. Well, no more dell for me. Period. Same with Apple. Did y'all hear that Verzion and Google claim to be working on an Android Tablet? I hope they keep on track with that as competition is a good thing. On 5/12/2010 1:59 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Are both n and g enabled? Set the band to 6 just to make sure. Also give the firmware update... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus... > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2870 - Release Date: 05/12/10 14:26:00
Re: [H] NetGear WNDR3700
no trouble here with mine and it is connected to a Netgear bridge. model eludes me at the moment. fp At 07:57 PM 5/11/2010, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with: >Man...none of my stuff can see any wireless signals coming from this router. >I'm wondering if it is sending out any signals. It's setup to broadcast its >SSID but even with my laptop right next to it, it can't see it. What gives >here? The wired 1000Gbps ports work fine and the lights for the 2.4GHZ and 5 >GHz wireless are shining bright. > >__ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >database 5107 (20100512) __ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- HaHaHa! Yuk, Yuk. Snort. Harumph.
Re: [H] Open question?
Wired, but run wireless for the daughter's laptop when she visits from college. Jim > -Original Message- > From: DSinc > Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this > LIST is now > actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
Re: [H] Open question?
Everything important in my place is wired and gigabit speed running through a managed switch with QOS. Even on N-band wifi, transferring videos that are 13-15GB each could take a really long time. I have a wireless setup just for my daughter laptop and I use it occasionally with my laptop if I'm outside on the porch. lopaka From: DSinc To: Hardware Group Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 4:24:52 PM Subject: [H] Open question? Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Open question?
Both > Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now > actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? > > No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! > The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) > > (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) > > Just wondering? > Best, > Duncan >
Re: [H] Open question?
Desktops are wired, Laptops are WiFi. At 07:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc wrote: Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan __ NOD32 5110 (20100512) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." - Benjamin Franklin PS. Please note that I have switched to my GMAIL address - mike...@gmail.com Please update your email / address book / contact list accordingly. Thanks
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I will never go wireless. Ever! On 5/12/2010 6:24 PM, DSinc wrote: Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
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I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine. Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable? Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail) -Original Message- From: DSinc Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
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I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit is not bad. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote: > I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine. > Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable? > > Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail) > > > -Original Message- > From: DSinc > > > Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now > actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? -- Bryan G. Seitz
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Stan, TNX. Duncan On 05/12/2010 21:11, Stan Zaske wrote: I will never go wireless. Ever! On 5/12/2010 6:24 PM, DSinc wrote: Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
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Gary, Understand the lifestyle change; and your creds. Suppose I am still a desktop-junkie. No harm, no foul. Just wondering. TNX, Duncan On 05/12/2010 21:47, Gary VanderMolen wrote: I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine. Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable? Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail) -Original Message- From: DSinc Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
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Bryan, In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about. But, TNX anyway. Duncan On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote: I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit is not bad. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote: I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine. Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable? Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail) -Original Message- From: DSinc Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
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A bunch of wired with a mix of CAT 5,5E,6 over the years. And some wireless, and Sneaker net here. Still prefer the hard wired. Tony -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Open question? Bryan, In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about. But, TNX anyway. Duncan On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote: > I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit > is not bad. > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote: >> I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine. >> Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable? >> >> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail) >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: DSinc >> >> >> Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now >> actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? >
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Michael, TNX. This seems to be a new norm. I don't do laptops yet. Duncan On 05/12/2010 20:13, Michael Resnick wrote: Desktops are wired, Laptops are WiFi. At 07:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc wrote: Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan __ NOD32 5110 (20100512) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." - Benjamin Franklin PS. Please note that I have switched to my GMAIL address - mike...@gmail.com Please update your email / address book / contact list accordingly. Thanks
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Tony, TNX, Interesting. I still do "sneakernet" now via my new USB FD's. Old habits die hard. Duncan On 05/12/2010 22:30, Tony Riederer wrote: A bunch of wired with a mix of CAT 5,5E,6 over the years. And some wireless, and Sneaker net here. Still prefer the hard wired. Tony -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Open question? Bryan, In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about. But, TNX anyway. Duncan On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote: I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit is not bad. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote: I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine. Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable? Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail) -Original Message- From: DSinc Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
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Yep, I use a combination of wired (2xNetgear GS108T) and wireless (Netgear WNR3500). Wireless is strictly for my work laptop and any friends that come over, all of my desktops are wired as well as my PS3/Denon. Julian On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:42 PM, DSinc wrote: > Tony, > TNX, Interesting. I still do "sneakernet" now via my new USB FD's. > Old habits die hard. > Duncan > > > > On 05/12/2010 22:30, Tony Riederer wrote: > >> A bunch of wired with a mix of CAT 5,5E,6 over the years. And some >> wireless, >> and Sneaker net here. Still prefer the hard wired. >> Tony >> >> -Original Message- >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com >> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc >> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] Open question? >> >> Bryan, >> In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play >> everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about. >> But, TNX anyway. >> Duncan >> >> >> On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote: >> >>> I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit >>> is not bad. >>> >>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote: >>> I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine. Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable? Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail) -Original Message- From: DSinc Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? >>> >>> >> >>
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Wired for all workstations, servers, and devices/appliances (ie: TV, blu-ray player, Dish receivers). WiFi N for laptops WiFi G for phones/other that don't speak N Wireless is great for any device you don't want to be tethered on, but nothing beats the performance, security, and reliability of good old fashioned twisted pair. > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM > To: Hardware Group > Subject: [H] Open question? > > Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively > using WIFI for their internal home LANs? > > No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! > The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) > > (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) > > Just wondering? > Best, > Duncan
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Julian, TNX. I suspected. Duncan On 05/12/2010 22:43, Julian Zottl wrote: Yep, I use a combination of wired (2xNetgear GS108T) and wireless (Netgear WNR3500). Wireless is strictly for my work laptop and any friends that come over, all of my desktops are wired as well as my PS3/Denon. Julian On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:42 PM, DSinc wrote: Tony, TNX, Interesting. I still do "sneakernet" now via my new USB FD's. Old habits die hard. Duncan On 05/12/2010 22:30, Tony Riederer wrote: A bunch of wired with a mix of CAT 5,5E,6 over the years. And some wireless, and Sneaker net here. Still prefer the hard wired. Tony -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Open question? Bryan, In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about. But, TNX anyway. Duncan On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote: I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit is not bad. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote: I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine. Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable? Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail) -Original Message- From: DSinc Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
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Greg, TNX. I've always known you were into it all... :) Logic for WIFI makes sense; though I still fear it. Duncan On 05/12/2010 23:04, Greg Sevart wrote: Wired for all workstations, servers, and devices/appliances (ie: TV, blu-ray player, Dish receivers). WiFi N for laptops WiFi G for phones/other that don't speak N Wireless is great for any device you don't want to be tethered on, but nothing beats the performance, security, and reliability of good old fashioned twisted pair. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] Open question? Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) Just wondering? Best, Duncan
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Both Both PC's, the laser printer, and both NAS boxen in the computer room are all on a wired Gigabit switch... NAS transfers are very fast that way... :) But I use wireless for the MacBook Pro laptop and the Xbox 360 in the living room where I don't have any ethernet cables.. Works very well for me.. On May 12, 2010, at 4:24 PM, DSinc wrote: > Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now > actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs? > > No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both! > The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :) > > (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?) > > Just wondering? > Best, > Duncan -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
