Re: [H] Duncan
Good to see you back buddy! -Original Message- From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com Sent: 3/14/2015 11:25 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Duncan To the List, I am now happily at home and completed the 2d phase of life; Iam now 67yrs old. I am trying to relern EMail! I am so happy the List is UP and Opsnorml. Thankyou for your thoughts and prayers. They worked. I am still kickingeven though the new guy is strange. regards, Duhcan On 01/24/2015 15:25, Chris Reeves wrote: Agreed. Some of the best news of the weekend -Original Message- From: Gary Jackson gjack...@visi.com Sent: ‎1/‎23/‎2015 11:48 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Duncan It will be nice to get you back on the list Duncan ! Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of dsinc...@epbfi.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:46 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Duncan I'm doing okay. Feelin' good. I am in an assisted living facility called Rosewood, in Fort Oglethorpe (where my sister lives). Have my own apartment. And it sucks to have to stay here, til June, my calendar says. The food's lousy, but it's regular. I'm supporting my local pharmacy--in Atlanta. I haven't figured out email yet. Sis comes by every couple of days and helps me out. Learning my way around the place. Thanks for asking after me. Onward and Upward, Duncan - Original Message -From: Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.comTo: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.comSent: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:55:30 -0500 (EST)Subject: Re: [H] Duncan Bump. Anyone heard anything? Scott On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Christopher Fisk christopher.f...@thefisks.org wrote: Any updates on Duncan? It's been a few weeks and was hoping to hear good news! On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Joshua MacCraw maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Strength to Duncan family. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:51 AM, James Edwards jedwa...@hardwaregroup.com wrote: Yo everyone, pay attention! From his sister Bonny at addy4st...@yahoo.com To all, My brother, Duncan, (do not know how he's identified in your group other than the owner of this site) was admitted to the hospital on 11-11 after suffering multiple strokes. He was in ccu for 3 days, the hospital for 3 and is now in re-hab. He is mobile, somewhat, and coherent, but memory, vision, and balance are impaired. Thought you would like to know. He's optimistic, accepting, and going with the flow. He's himself in conversation, just trapped in a not too responsive body. Bonny Bonny, please send me a good address to send well wishes. I will forward it to the list.Jim Edwards
Re: [H] Small box to drive projector
Nuc is kinda spendy. With microcenter nearby I can get a g3258, 4gb, board and a small case. For less than $150. Throw in a $54 120gb ssd, and I've got everything I need to run a mediabrowser client on win10 -Original Message- From: Joshua MacCraw maccr...@gmail.com Sent: 2/15/2015 4:09 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector Yeah I found some comments from 2003 in a forum talking about new stuff coming out with such features though quick Google didn't net much but this: http://www.aaxatech.com/articles/mini_projector_presentations.html I'd say look into used mini form factor office PC's or seriously consider cheap android tablet option. On Feb 15, 2015 1:00 PM, Dave Gibney gib...@pullman.com wrote: I also thought that projectors with built-in support for was obvious. But, I didn't find any with my limited searching attempt. I'll look again. The NUC, when you add storage, memory, OS and controls seems to overlap the price range of a cheap laptop. -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joshua MacCraw Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:29 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector Have you looked into projectors with onboard support? Seems in this day age what you'd really want is something enabled for Chromecast, upnp, dlna, etc.. at which point you could drive it wireless from any cheap tablet. I'm just extrapolating from the flat screen tv market trend assuming such software is also on projectors worth their salt although Chromecast dongles are cheap. Don't totally forget you might want to HDMI a random device and Redmere active cables are the way to go for runs longer than a meter or two because they are so thin, flexible work without fuss. Otherwise NUC was also my kneejerk reaction though not from practical usage. On Feb 14, 2015 9:04 AM, Dave Gibney gib...@pullman.com wrote: Delurk :) What would you guys recommend as a small computer dedicated to driving a meeting room projector. At our community center, we are looking at wall or ceiling mounting projectors in our several meeting spaces (including the gym and auditorium). My vision is a small box dedicated to each projector that can show PowerPoint and various media. Ideally controlled and media loaded via Wi-Fi or even Bluetooth. Perhaps even controlled by a phone or tablet. What would this collective mind suggest? Dave Gibney 509-715-9552 Pullman, WA
Re: [H] Small box to drive projector
Windows10 is free. Just grab the latest beta. It does mkv natively etc, when final comes out uograde -Original Message- From: Dave Gibney gib...@pullman.com Sent: 2/16/2015 2:18 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector I live in the hinterland, so need to order things. And after hardware, I need an OS. What's a good price/source for OEM Windows Pro? For RDP access. Or, how far can a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse reach? Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com Date:02/16/2015 08:20 (GMT-08:00) To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector Nuc is kinda spendy. With microcenter nearby I can get a g3258, 4gb, board and a small case. For less than $150. Throw in a $54 120gb ssd, and I've got everything I need to run a mediabrowser client on win10 -Original Message- From: Joshua MacCraw maccr...@gmail.com Sent: 2/15/2015 4:09 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector Yeah I found some comments from 2003 in a forum talking about new stuff coming out with such features though quick Google didn't net much but this: http://www.aaxatech.com/articles/mini_projector_presentations.html I'd say look into used mini form factor office PC's or seriously consider cheap android tablet option. On Feb 15, 2015 1:00 PM, Dave Gibney gib...@pullman.com wrote: I also thought that projectors with built-in support for was obvious. But, I didn't find any with my limited searching attempt. I'll look again. The NUC, when you add storage, memory, OS and controls seems to overlap the price range of a cheap laptop. -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joshua MacCraw Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:29 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector Have you looked into projectors with onboard support? Seems in this day age what you'd really want is something enabled for Chromecast, upnp, dlna, etc.. at which point you could drive it wireless from any cheap tablet. I'm just extrapolating from the flat screen tv market trend assuming such software is also on projectors worth their salt although Chromecast dongles are cheap. Don't totally forget you might want to HDMI a random device and Redmere active cables are the way to go for runs longer than a meter or two because they are so thin, flexible work without fuss. Otherwise NUC was also my kneejerk reaction though not from practical usage. On Feb 14, 2015 9:04 AM, Dave Gibney gib...@pullman.com wrote: Delurk :) What would you guys recommend as a small computer dedicated to driving a meeting room projector. At our community center, we are looking at wall or ceiling mounting projectors in our several meeting spaces (including the gym and auditorium). My vision is a small box dedicated to each projector that can show PowerPoint and various media. Ideally controlled and media loaded via Wi-Fi or even Bluetooth. Perhaps even controlled by a phone or tablet. What would this collective mind suggest? Dave Gibney 509-715-9552 Pullman, WA
Re: [H] Small box to drive projector
Only hutch with appletv is that it really scales back HD content, especially if you stream bluray content to it. You can use plex, but again, splitting audio source out sucks.. But its a good solutionfir a standalone tv -Original Message- From: Christopher Fisk christopher.f...@thefisks.org Sent: 2/16/2015 3:30 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector I might be rocking the boat here, but for projector duties, I've found that AppleTV works fantastic. For windows we use AirParrot, or on Mac's you can natively cast to the AppleTV. You still need a PC to drive it, but it could be as simple as someone's laptop connecting. A chromecast also works surprisingly well, with the newer builds of chrome supporting casting your entire desktop. On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Windows10 is free. Just grab the latest beta. It does mkv natively etc, when final comes out uograde -Original Message- From: Dave Gibney gib...@pullman.com Sent: 2/16/2015 2:18 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector I live in the hinterland, so need to order things. And after hardware, I need an OS. What's a good price/source for OEM Windows Pro? For RDP access. Or, how far can a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse reach? Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com Date:02/16/2015 08:20 (GMT-08:00) To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector Nuc is kinda spendy. With microcenter nearby I can get a g3258, 4gb, board and a small case. For less than $150. Throw in a $54 120gb ssd, and I've got everything I need to run a mediabrowser client on win10 -Original Message- From: Joshua MacCraw maccr...@gmail.com Sent: 2/15/2015 4:09 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector Yeah I found some comments from 2003 in a forum talking about new stuff coming out with such features though quick Google didn't net much but this: http://www.aaxatech.com/articles/mini_projector_presentations.html I'd say look into used mini form factor office PC's or seriously consider cheap android tablet option. On Feb 15, 2015 1:00 PM, Dave Gibney gib...@pullman.com wrote: I also thought that projectors with built-in support for was obvious. But, I didn't find any with my limited searching attempt. I'll look again. The NUC, when you add storage, memory, OS and controls seems to overlap the price range of a cheap laptop. -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joshua MacCraw Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:29 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Small box to drive projector Have you looked into projectors with onboard support? Seems in this day age what you'd really want is something enabled for Chromecast, upnp, dlna, etc.. at which point you could drive it wireless from any cheap tablet. I'm just extrapolating from the flat screen tv market trend assuming such software is also on projectors worth their salt although Chromecast dongles are cheap. Don't totally forget you might want to HDMI a random device and Redmere active cables are the way to go for runs longer than a meter or two because they are so thin, flexible work without fuss. Otherwise NUC was also my kneejerk reaction though not from practical usage. On Feb 14, 2015 9:04 AM, Dave Gibney gib...@pullman.com wrote: Delurk :) What would you guys recommend as a small computer dedicated to driving a meeting room projector. At our community center, we are looking at wall or ceiling mounting projectors in our several meeting spaces (including the gym and auditorium). My vision is a small box dedicated to each projector that can show PowerPoint and various media. Ideally controlled and media loaded via Wi-Fi or even Bluetooth. Perhaps even controlled by a phone or tablet. What would this collective mind suggest? Dave Gibney 509-715-9552 Pullman, WA
Re: [H] Browsers
I like Firefox. Chrome is nice, but I frequently see it infected with bogus plugins -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 2/14/2015 8:24 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Browsers That looks like a plan. I'll go from Waterfox to Firefox. They use the same profile, so that's one less worry. The other day, Waterfox was glacial, I did a speednet test and it was hovering around 9-10 MB/sec. I shut it down and restarted, and right back to over 100MB/sec. Thanks guys. On 2/14/2015 9:10 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 08:30 AM 14/02/2015, Steve Tomporowski wrote: What's the collective currently using for a browser? I'm currently using Waterfox (supposedly a speeded-up version of Firefox), but after the last update, it's giving me problems. I've upgraded my internet service to 100MB, but after just a few hours, Waterfox slows to a crawl and I only get the speed back up by closing it and reopening it. I'm assuming that straight Firefox will probably do the same, so I think I'll see how Chrome works out. I use Firefox. Chrome (once compromised) is way to much of a pain to fix, and I find it gets compromised more easily (based on computers I work) than Firefox does. Tomshardware tested all the browsers and picked Firefox as the best (speed/security) so I'm figure that's a decent backup to my choice. T
Re: [H] Duncan
Agreed. Some of the best news of the weekend -Original Message- From: Gary Jackson gjack...@visi.com Sent: 1/23/2015 11:48 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Duncan It will be nice to get you back on the list Duncan ! Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of dsinc...@epbfi.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:46 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Duncan I'm doing okay. Feelin' good. I am in an assisted living facility called Rosewood, in Fort Oglethorpe (where my sister lives). Have my own apartment. And it sucks to have to stay here, til June, my calendar says. The food's lousy, but it's regular. I'm supporting my local pharmacy--in Atlanta. I haven't figured out email yet. Sis comes by every couple of days and helps me out. Learning my way around the place. Thanks for asking after me. Onward and Upward, Duncan - Original Message -From: Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.comTo: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.comSent: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:55:30 -0500 (EST)Subject: Re: [H] Duncan Bump. Anyone heard anything? Scott On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Christopher Fisk christopher.f...@thefisks.org wrote: Any updates on Duncan? It's been a few weeks and was hoping to hear good news! On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Joshua MacCraw maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Strength to Duncan family. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:51 AM, James Edwards jedwa...@hardwaregroup.com wrote: Yo everyone, pay attention! From his sister Bonny at addy4st...@yahoo.com To all, My brother, Duncan, (do not know how he's identified in your group other than the owner of this site) was admitted to the hospital on 11-11 after suffering multiple strokes. He was in ccu for 3 days, the hospital for 3 and is now in re-hab. He is mobile, somewhat, and coherent, but memory, vision, and balance are impaired. Thought you would like to know. He's optimistic, accepting, and going with the flow. He's himself in conversation, just trapped in a not too responsive body. Bonny Bonny, please send me a good address to send well wishes. I will forward it to the list. Jim Edwards
Re: [H] Duncan
All my best thoughts. Over the years I've had some great long talks with Duncan. -Original Message- From: James Edwards jedwa...@hardwaregroup.com Sent: 11/22/2014 7:51 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: addy4st...@yahoo.com addy4st...@yahoo.com Subject: [H] Duncan Yo everyone, pay attention! From his sister Bonny at addy4st...@yahoo.com To all, My brother, Duncan, (do not know how he's identified in your group other than the owner of this site) was admitted to the hospital on 11-11 after suffering multiple strokes. He was in ccu for 3 days, the hospital for 3 and is now in re-hab. He is mobile, somewhat, and coherent, but memory, vision, and balance are impaired. Thought you would like to know. He's optimistic, accepting, and going with the flow. He's himself in conversation, just trapped in a not too responsive body. Bonny Bonny, please send me a good address to send well wishes. I will forward it to the list. Jim Edwards
Re: [H] Duncan
All my best thoughts. Over the years I've had some great long talks with Duncan. -Original Message- From: James Edwards jedwa...@hardwaregroup.com Sent: 11/22/2014 7:51 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: addy4st...@yahoo.com addy4st...@yahoo.com Subject: [H] Duncan Yo everyone, pay attention! From his sister Bonny at addy4st...@yahoo.com To all, My brother, Duncan, (do not know how he's identified in your group other than the owner of this site) was admitted to the hospital on 11-11 after suffering multiple strokes. He was in ccu for 3 days, the hospital for 3 and is now in re-hab. He is mobile, somewhat, and coherent, but memory, vision, and balance are impaired. Thought you would like to know. He's optimistic, accepting, and going with the flow. He's himself in conversation, just trapped in a not too responsive body. Bonny Bonny, please send me a good address to send well wishes. I will forward it to the list. Jim Edwards
Re: [H] A lurker asks
Scam -Original Message- From: Dave Gibney gib...@pullman.com Sent: 6/20/2014 6:38 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] A lurker asks Any opinion on micro-geeks.com ? They cold called my uncle. He let them in via teamviewers.com. I called them. They claim they buy error logs from ISPs to find names and numbers. I told him to turn the computer off and have it scanned and cleaned at a reputable shop ASAP. Dave Gibney 509-715-9552 Pullman, WA
Re: [H] Free, lite AV suggestions for XP
Immediately remove XP from anything connected to the net. Now that no one has to support old SSL method count on it losing value quickly. That said, avast Is passable. But ditching XP is still the real option. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org joeu...@chronic.org Sent: 4/20/2014 12:17 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Free, lite AV suggestions for XP In light of MSFT's dropping of XP support thus the download/install of MSE (even though current installs will function until July 2015), does anyone have a suggestion for a free lite AV program? AVG Avast are out, as they are not lite enough for me. They may run fine for others but I think they are resource hogs, you may agree to disagree. Anything else out there, that one could recommend? Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] What are we up to (Was-Are we alive?)
I've never combined sans digital with flexraid.. Aren't they creating their own raid5 internally? I currently keep 70TB online in flexraid with no issues, I know I had mentioned it before. -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com Sent: 2/23/2014 8:07 AM To: hardware hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: hwg hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] What are we up to (Was-Are we alive?) Hi Jim. Sorry to hear you're having such troubles, especially since I think I'm the one who introduced FlexRAID to the list. I've been running it on my HTPC for several years now and (knock on wood) it's been running fine. Not sure how big your setup is, I'm running 7 DRUs and 2 PRUs of 2 TB each. I have them mounted as a single pool that is shared on my LAN. I run nightly parity updates. Initilaizing my setup did take several hours, but my updates don't take very long. Sometimes when I add several ripped HD movies at once it might take a few hours but that's it. How much data are you calcluating parity for at the initialization? Do you have a lot of little files (like thousand of pictures) or lots of files that change often? Either of those could greatly increase the time it takes to calcluate parity. I'm running it under Win7, and unfortunately I don't have any experience with Server 2011 or any of the Windows Server builds. From what I've gathered you can only have one pool per system. I think that's a limit of how things work. But I've never needed more than one pool, so it hasn't bothered me. For hardware, I'm running the following based largely on a HTPC hardware guide I found online. It's based on a server chipset to maximize the bandwidth to the drives. Intel Xeon E3-1225 Asus P8B WS LGA 1155 Intel C206 8 GB DDR3 SDRAM Corsair TX750 V2 750W 2x Intel RAID Controller Card SATA/SAS PCI-E x8 Antec 1200 V3 Case 3x 5in1 hot swap HDD cages Part of the key is the controller cards. I'm not actually using the on-board RAID, just using it for the ports and the bandwidth. I've got two SAS to SATA cables plugged into each card, which gives me a total of 16 SATA ports. The cards are each on an 8x PCIe bus that gives them a lot of bandwidth. Boot drive is an older SSD that is attached to one of the SATA ports on the mobo. Once trick I figured out early on was to initialize your array with the biggest number of DRUs you think you'll eventually have, even if you don't actually have that many drives at the start. That way you can add new DRUs and not have to reinitialize the array. When I started using FlexRAID it was basically a part-time project being run by Brahim. He's now created a fully-fledged business out of it and has gone way beyond just FlexRAID. Apparently he now has two products. I think the classic FlexRAID system I'm still using has become RAID-F (RAID over filesystem) and he's got a new Transparent RAID product as well: http://www.flexraid.com/faq/ I'm still running 2.0u8 (snapshot 1.4 stable) so I guess at some point I'll need to move over to the commercial version. But for now it's working fine so I don't want to disturb it. Hope all this helps, and happy to answer any other questions however I can. - Brian On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:00 PM, James Maki jwm_maill...@comcast.netwrote: I have beating my head against the wall trying to install FlexRAID on Windows Home Server 2011 since the beginning of the year. I spent the first month trying to install using several Sans Digital port expanding towers. I kept having errors/crashes when the system tried to calculate parity on the initial install. I thought it might be the slow access to the port-multiplier set-up, but I finally ran scan disk on all the drives and found one parity drive (out of 4) had disk errors that were probably causing the problem. Then, the initial install was taking over 4 days. I found this unacceptable and kept looking for a reason and whether this was typical. I upgraded to a hardware RAID care (?), with multiple SAS ports. The Create process was still very slow. The Parity Update took a similar length of time. As did the Validate Parity procedure. And I assume the Verify procedure would take a similar period of time. The suggestion is to run the Update every night, the Validate weekly, and the Verify monthly. With the length of time for an Update, it would be impossible to keep up with this schedule. The program seems to be in a period of flux, with the developer not sure of its direction. There is no firm documentation, just the wiki, forums, and some how-tos. It is easy to find the how to do the general set-up, but I believe most are going with small RAID sizes. Now, my storage needs are more for convenience and video access rather than any important, can't be replaced files (for the most part). My business and personal files are saved to a different system. The attraction of FlexRAID is its ability to combine multiple hard drives into a single pool
Re: [H] Are we alive?
Yep, still hanging in there. :) Mostly Home theater stuff at the moment, PS4/XB1 and all that jazz keeping the kids busy -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Tim Lider Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 13:16 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Are we alive? I'm still alive. Just keeping busy with work, Martial Arts, and hobbies. Tim Lider -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:13 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Are we alive? Hm.and that would be?? Your six is clear, just rest the nose on the horizon and enjoy the sunset. Jeff ping: HWG Are we doing what we always do? Duncan
Re: [H] NAS Software
Flexraid runs on top of any windows os. Whs2011 can be had very cheaply -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/12/2013 8:03 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] NAS Software Are you using WHS2011 for streaming? I'm assuming that flexraid can be used standalone? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve
Re: [H] NAS Software
I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve
Re: [H] Powerline Question
It works. Any switch will do -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com Sent: 10/26/2013 6:35 AM To: hwg hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Powerline Question I've been using the Netgear Powerline system for a couple years now with great success. However, I've always only had one device plugged into each adapter. Does anyone know if you can plug a hub or a switch into an adapter and that way have more than one device connected through each adapter? I know Netgear sells something that does this, but I'd love to be able to use a regular old hub/switch than have to buy another $100 device. - Brian
Re: [H] Every house needs one of these
Just did. I get about 1gb in 12-13 seconds -Original Message- From: Alden Trull a...@midcoast.com Sent: 10/20/2013 6:12 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Every house needs one of these Chris How quickly can you download a one gb file on average? Just curious. On 10/20/2013 11:52 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: http://i.imgur.com/vdaegW8.jpg Gigabit Internet service.Thanks Google ;)
Re: [H] Windows 8 and Home Server (not 2011)
That and this 'secure boot not correctly configured'. Had to disable in bios to add a video card to an HP box.. Re-enable and it goes to onboard video only. Or you get this constant error. What a crock -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com Sent: 10/18/2013 3:42 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Windows 8 and Home Server (not 2011) At 05:19 PM 18/10/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: GPT? Turned out that Windows 8 doesn't setup the Credentials correctly. You can add them manually, however. Yet another reason Win8 sucks. T
Re: [H] microSD SSD Creator Kit
I've had a SATA to sdhc card adapter forever. Use them in Clear/Pfsense installs -Original Message- From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Sent: 10/5/2013 4:15 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] microSD SSD Creator Kit Costs more. That is interesting but terrible. A 128G SSD can be had for ~75. On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:21:45PM +0100, James Boswell wrote: 3.6 on Windows experience index is slow. Also there thing costs nearly as much as a 120gb proper ssd. As far as I'm concerned it's a gimmick. And not a very good one. Sadly. On 5 Oct 2013 12:13, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds like a cool ideaand cheap: http://www.geekstuff4u.com/**microsd-ssd-creator-kit.html#.**Uk_zrRCmUrZhttp://www.geekstuff4u.com/microsd-ssd-creator-kit.html#.Uk_zrRCmUrZ -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] microSD SSD Creator Kit
I'd agree. At the moment I'm all Samsung pro, but could change. That said, couldn't tell you how many Micron SSD I've had to replace because they went dead. I mean... No response dead. -Original Message- From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Sent: 10/5/2013 6:23 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] microSD SSD Creator Kit Indeed, I have one in every computer I own! On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 01:19:15AM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Once you ssd you can never go back. I used a computer without ssd and despite it being relatively high end it was slow. I let my friend try my computer and he couldn't believe that what he had hardware wise was some orders of magnitude better than mine. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Whitebox ESXI Esata Question
Was the pin issue -Original Message- From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Sent: 8/31/2013 4:58 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Whitebox ESXI Esata Question Card coudl be dead, try in another slot / system ? On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 03:45:17PM -0500, Chris Reeves wrote: Grabbed an hp400+512mb bbwu. Not recognized on this board just sits there dead, damn. That was my first plan. -Original Message- From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Sent: ???8/???31/???2013 3:24 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Whitebox ESXI Esata Question +1 for iscsi or an older HP P4xx raid card (can be had with battery + cache on ebay for ~150) On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 02:48:01PM -0500, Chris Reeves wrote: I had considered that. No opposition to iscsi, but my costs would be higher then say, a San Digital or Mediasonic esata enclosure. But may be the way I go -Original Message- From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net Sent: ???8/???31/???2013 8:21 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Whitebox ESXI Esata Question If you have a spare box around and a couple of like drives, you could install nexenta or freenas and use ZFS's built in raid. It performs remarkably well and you would be able to use/learn iscsi :) when you need more speed, you can buy ssd's and front them as read and write caches for the raid. Julian Sent from my iProduct, cause I'm iSpecial But not in that ishort bus kind of way... On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:48 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Ok, here's something I've never tried but have been thinking about testing.. Have a whitebox ESXI that just runs basic test services for me.. Xeon E3-1275v2 processor, 32G, etc. Anyway, storage right now is just a single SATA 2TB Re4. No desperate data on there so I just acronis it off weekly. But I'm debating this now.. getting a VMWare certified RAID controller is a sucky proposition in re-opening this box where it's at. I've seen people report mixed results using an eSATA RAID device - which should be completely transparent to the OS.. Anyone try or thoughts? I figured I might grab a mid-level RAID-1 eSATA device and give it a go.. -- Bryan G. Seitz -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Whitebox ESXI Esata Question
I had considered that. No opposition to iscsi, but my costs would be higher then say, a San Digital or Mediasonic esata enclosure. But may be the way I go -Original Message- From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net Sent: 8/31/2013 8:21 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Whitebox ESXI Esata Question If you have a spare box around and a couple of like drives, you could install nexenta or freenas and use ZFS's built in raid. It performs remarkably well and you would be able to use/learn iscsi :) when you need more speed, you can buy ssd's and front them as read and write caches for the raid. Julian Sent from my iProduct, cause I'm iSpecial But not in that ishort bus kind of way... On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:48 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Ok, here's something I've never tried but have been thinking about testing.. Have a whitebox ESXI that just runs basic test services for me.. Xeon E3-1275v2 processor, 32G, etc. Anyway, storage right now is just a single SATA 2TB Re4. No desperate data on there so I just acronis it off weekly. But I'm debating this now.. getting a VMWare certified RAID controller is a sucky proposition in re-opening this box where it's at. I've seen people report mixed results using an eSATA RAID device - which should be completely transparent to the OS.. Anyone try or thoughts? I figured I might grab a mid-level RAID-1 eSATA device and give it a go..
Re: [H] Whitebox ESXI Esata Question
Grabbed an hp400+512mb bbwu. Not recognized on this board just sits there dead, damn. That was my first plan. -Original Message- From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Sent: 8/31/2013 3:24 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Whitebox ESXI Esata Question +1 for iscsi or an older HP P4xx raid card (can be had with battery + cache on ebay for ~150) On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 02:48:01PM -0500, Chris Reeves wrote: I had considered that. No opposition to iscsi, but my costs would be higher then say, a San Digital or Mediasonic esata enclosure. But may be the way I go -Original Message- From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net Sent: ???8/???31/???2013 8:21 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Whitebox ESXI Esata Question If you have a spare box around and a couple of like drives, you could install nexenta or freenas and use ZFS's built in raid. It performs remarkably well and you would be able to use/learn iscsi :) when you need more speed, you can buy ssd's and front them as read and write caches for the raid. Julian Sent from my iProduct, cause I'm iSpecial But not in that ishort bus kind of way... On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:48 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Ok, here's something I've never tried but have been thinking about testing.. Have a whitebox ESXI that just runs basic test services for me.. Xeon E3-1275v2 processor, 32G, etc. Anyway, storage right now is just a single SATA 2TB Re4. No desperate data on there so I just acronis it off weekly. But I'm debating this now.. getting a VMWare certified RAID controller is a sucky proposition in re-opening this box where it's at. I've seen people report mixed results using an eSATA RAID device - which should be completely transparent to the OS.. Anyone try or thoughts? I figured I might grab a mid-level RAID-1 eSATA device and give it a go.. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] FFL?
I'm in if we get enough -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org joeu...@chronic.org Sent: 8/22/2013 8:27 PM To: Hardware LIST hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] FFL? *crickets* - Original Message - Subject: [H] FFL? From: Joe User joeu...@chronic.org Date: 8/21/13 7:33 pm To: Hardware LIST hardware@hardwaregroup.com Any FFL this year? I'm interested have more experience at it now. So I promise not to hog all the NY Jets on you guys, lol! Sent from my Windows Phone
Re: [H] Netgear Forums
I switched to their AC unit recently and the genie thing is interesting but not particularly useful -Original Message- From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com Sent: 8/19/2013 4:40 PM To: HWG hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Netgear Forums Can anyone share opinions about Forums @Netgear.com? I have some questions about their new sw called Genie, which came with my new wnr3500L router. Nothing serious, just some new user confusion; like no User Manual for Genie. Strange? Duncan
Re: [H] Change of status
I still keep some XP in my VMware. -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com Sent: 7/29/2013 5:32 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Change of status As does most of the business world --- Brian Weeden Secure World Foundation +1 202 683-8534 On Jul 29, 2013, at 17:47, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 05:59 PM 29/07/2013, DSinc wrote: As a founding member of our List, I have decided to move from semi-active to Lurker status. It seems that most on our List now use W7 or W8. I do not. I still use WinXPpro. BTW, 'Geforce Experience' does not work on WinXP. Shame on me. No trouble, I just removed it! I still have some XP machines as well. :) T
Re: [H] Streaming questions
Depends on your provider. Hell even my showtime/hbo over cable card all convert -Original Message- From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org Sent: 7/21/2013 6:29 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Streaming questions If you mean recordings (like WTV) you'd have to use a converter first, and then a DLNA streamer. but you can only convert things that aren't encrypted like over the air broadcasts. Where I am there is no over the air, and just about the only thing on COX cable that is unencrypted in HD is PBS. Something like MC-TVConverter will do it automatically and then get it ready to stream, though not in real time. If you have a media center extender (XBOX360 or Ceton or Linksys) then that covers it I only have XBOX360s and I was under the impression that Win 7 Media center would only work with the XBOX 360?
Re: [H] Nas 3.0
Flexraid.com They make a product that they refer to as NZFS, I'm using flexraid-f, which also uses that algorithm. I simulated a drive fail last night. Flawless recovery. Nice. -Original Message- From: Alex Lee a...@kukaki.net Sent: 7/7/2013 8:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nas 3.0 flexraid is zfs-based? On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I ended up going with flexraid. So far, very happy with it. 18tb avail in one array and 26tb in the other. All good so far. -Original Message- From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Sent: 7/7/2013 6:45 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nas 3.0 On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:14:00AM -0700, Tim Lider wrote: I have not done a project like that . When I price out a NAS project it is actually less expensive (when you think of equipment and time) to get one premade. The NAS' we use are WD's right now. The boss also does not like to have the TB size of the NAS' too large, I limit the size to around 8TB to 12TB. If you do make a NAS with NAS4Free, I have looked into it, remember it is a software RAID not a Hardware RAID. What do I mean by that? Software RAID's are basically made using a Volume Manager (usually Linux VLM or VLM2), hardware RAID's are actually considered a 1 physical disk to the PC when managing the Volume(s) at the operating system level. I myself prefer hardware RAID setups. This is due to the ease of replacing disks if needed. Also, Hardware RAID's are a bit easier to recover when things go bad. Have a great weekend all, Anything using ZFS makes replacements quite easy to be honest. Also with ZFS my disks can be on any controller I can dig up...onboard, addin card, etc With hardware raid if your controller eats it you have to find the same card / family to import your config. Personally I would not use anything BUT zfs right now as far as mass storage goes. For OS disks I still prefer hardware raid. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Nas 3.0
I ended up going with flexraid. So far, very happy with it. 18tb avail in one array and 26tb in the other. All good so far. -Original Message- From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Sent: 7/7/2013 6:45 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nas 3.0 On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:14:00AM -0700, Tim Lider wrote: I have not done a project like that . When I price out a NAS project it is actually less expensive (when you think of equipment and time) to get one premade. The NAS' we use are WD's right now. The boss also does not like to have the TB size of the NAS' too large, I limit the size to around 8TB to 12TB. If you do make a NAS with NAS4Free, I have looked into it, remember it is a software RAID not a Hardware RAID. What do I mean by that? Software RAID's are basically made using a Volume Manager (usually Linux VLM or VLM2), hardware RAID's are actually considered a 1 physical disk to the PC when managing the Volume(s) at the operating system level. I myself prefer hardware RAID setups. This is due to the ease of replacing disks if needed. Also, Hardware RAID's are a bit easier to recover when things go bad. Have a great weekend all, Anything using ZFS makes replacements quite easy to be honest. Also with ZFS my disks can be on any controller I can dig up...onboard, addin card, etc With hardware raid if your controller eats it you have to find the same card / family to import your config. Personally I would not use anything BUT zfs right now as far as mass storage goes. For OS disks I still prefer hardware raid. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function
Well yes I do that. :). Just referring to copy glitches. I guess back to teracopy I go -Original Message- From: Al Anger li...@alanger.net Sent: 7/6/2013 6:35 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function I keep telling people, don't use the right click - move. If it dies, you in a world of hurt trying to figure what got moved. Only use the copy and then delete after the copy is successful. al On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 21:57:21 -0400 tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this. But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it says your target already has 868 of these files.. Oh.. Hmm. Interesting. So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I see them. I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period). Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.
Re: [H] Happy 4th to the pack
Happy holidays to all! -Original Message- From: Tim Lider timli...@adv-data.com Sent: 7/4/2013 12:39 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Happy 4th to the pack +1 :0 On July 4, 2013 at 6:34 AM DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Right back atcha! And to all! Duncan On 07/04/2013 09:26, FORC5 wrote: fp Date: Thursday, July 4th, 2013 ***Caution, Tagline Below *** **Tallyho** ** ~ The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton ** Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
[H] Nas 3.0
Tim- I'm weighing redoing my home NAS I'm thinking about either going with FlexRAID or Storage Spaces. Right now it would be two pools, about 30tb each. I'm just going to demote the old whs and convert it to NAS4free and make it a backup target. I'm somewhat drawn to Flexraids logic of if multiple drives die you can still just pull the disc drives out and read them on another machine. This wouldn't necessarily be true in storage spaces. Just thinking on it. -Original Message- From: Tim Lider timli...@adv-data.com Sent: 7/3/2013 8:57 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] External drives (USB) and power requirements The reason is that the ROM/ROM Modules (Specifically ROM Module 47 (Adaptives)) have information on it that is specific to the HD it is mated to. Some times you can be lucky to get a PCB to work with a HD, but do not run it too long, bad things will happen. What the Adaptives are is information on head weight, voltage needed to spin HD up, voltage needed to for thermal assist metals inside the HD (Gimbal) and the exact spindle rate (7211rpm). There is more, but those are the main issues. Regards, On July 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 05:49 PM 02/07/2013, Tim Lider wrote: You have a point there. In most cases, the jobs that go through our shop here, the HD fail due to power problems. These power problems are either power spikes, power drops, or shorts. Keep in mind HD's can not be repaired by replacing the PCB anymore, there is so much more involved. Why can't you replace the PCB? T Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Nas 3.0
I used freenas for years. But its now nas4free. The developers who made freenas 5/6/7 great left after ix systems bought them. Freenas9 is good, just nas4free is much more familiar to us freenas7 lovers. ZFS is great, and if I was using enterprise level hardware, that's how id go. I'm moving over about 4-5tb for nas4free to run under esxi. -Original Message- From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net Sent: 7/4/2013 4:12 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nas 3.0 Take a look at Nexenta and FreeNAS too! Julian Sent from my iProduct, cause I'm iSpecial But not in that ishort bus kind of way... On Jul 4, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Tim- I'm weighing redoing my home NAS I'm thinking about either going with FlexRAID or Storage Spaces. Right now it would be two pools, about 30tb each. I'm just going to demote the old whs and convert it to NAS4free and make it a backup target. I'm somewhat drawn to Flexraids logic of if multiple drives die you can still just pull the disc drives out and read them on another machine. This wouldn't necessarily be true in storage spaces. Just thinking on it. -Original Message- From: Tim Lider timli...@adv-data.com Sent: 7/3/2013 8:57 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] External drives (USB) and power requirements The reason is that the ROM/ROM Modules (Specifically ROM Module 47 (Adaptives)) have information on it that is specific to the HD it is mated to. Some times you can be lucky to get a PCB to work with a HD, but do not run it too long, bad things will happen. What the Adaptives are is information on head weight, voltage needed to spin HD up, voltage needed to for thermal assist metals inside the HD (Gimbal) and the exact spindle rate (7211rpm). There is more, but those are the main issues. Regards, On July 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 05:49 PM 02/07/2013, Tim Lider wrote: You have a point there. In most cases, the jobs that go through our shop here, the HD fail due to power problems. These power problems are either power spikes, power drops, or shorts. Keep in mind HD's can not be repaired by replacing the PCB anymore, there is so much more involved. Why can't you replace the PCB? T Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] MC plug ins
Medianrowser.tv Shark007 codecs -Original Message- From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org Sent: 7/4/2013 3:38 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] MC plug ins I am using Media Center Win 7 Pro with XBOX extenders and it works great. Right now I am only using the MCL plug in. Can anyone recommend any other worthwhile MC plug ins? Is there anyway to get MC to play mkz files? w
Re: [H] MC plug ins
Medianrowser.tv Shark007 codecs -Original Message- From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org Sent: 7/4/2013 3:38 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] MC plug ins I am using Media Center Win 7 Pro with XBOX extenders and it works great. Right now I am only using the MCL plug in. Can anyone recommend any other worthwhile MC plug ins? Is there anyway to get MC to play mkz files? w
Re: [H] MC plug ins
That was a typo. Mediabrowser.tv -Original Message- From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org Sent: 7/4/2013 3:38 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] MC plug ins I am using Media Center Win 7 Pro with XBOX extenders and it works great. Right now I am only using the MCL plug in. Can anyone recommend any other worthwhile MC plug ins? Is there anyway to get MC to play mkz files? w
Re: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows
Utorrent does basically this. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:24:30 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows Greetings, I use ktorrent on Linux because I like the feature that shows parts of the file which are available for download as you can see in this screenshot... http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png ...Is there a windows Bit Torrent client that has this feature. I figured I would ask the group instead of downloading a whole bunch of clients to see which has this feature. Thanks Jay
Re: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows
The whs plugin is the only thing that makes whs worth considering. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:52:21 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows uTorrent rocks, especially with the RSS loader plugin. Brian On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Jeff Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Utorrent has those features and more. Very easy to use. http://www.utorrent.com Jeff Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: [H] Which Bit Torrent client for Windows Greetings, I use ktorrent on Linux because I like the feature that shows parts of the file which are available for download as you can see in this screenshot... http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png ...Is there a windows Bit Torrent client that has this feature. I figured I would ask the group instead of downloading a whole bunch of clients to see which has this feature. Thanks Jay
Re: [H] another recommendation
Heh. Two months from now when you see our QuadSLI review in a major magazine with nice thungs to say you can rethink that. But I thought the goal was two boxes for the price your giving him for one. :). Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:40:51 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] another recommendation My choices: Asus Rampage (X48 vs. X38, forget AMD 680/780) Intel E6550 (core2) or Q6600 (core2Q) Thermaltake *toughpower* 750W PSU (or OCZ, Silverstone, CWT, Seasonic) Thermaltake Armor case 2 (1024x2) or 4GB (2048x2) RAM DDR2-800 because it's cheap right now XP will use 3GB for sure. Graphics? anything ATI = X1950 or Nvidia = 7800 (forget future SLI upgrades since Nvidia too stupid to allow support on an Intel chipset.) Why? Supports the fastest DDR2 RAM for the $$$, handles all Intel CPU's (it's X48), won't become obsolete in 2 years IMHO, allows for upgrades. Look for deals/rebates and you could build core box for $1000 sans HDD, CD/DVD, new KB, etc Chris on the other hand will have you buying some AM2+ jobbie in a ultra case w/ ultra branded PSU. Just poking Chris! =) Harvey Best wrote: Hi all, Need to build 2 systems. 1. Strictly business. Don't need fancy graphics, or sound, so onboard video/sound is fine. (I will up the RAM) Dual HDD that are Raid Mirrors are needed. 2. System 2 can be almost like the one above, but needs a better video card. My wife is a Medical Transcriptionist. This will be her work system and her playing with digital pics system. I want dual hdd, and a raid mirror on this as well. I have a Raptor SATA drive that I am going to put in along with another Raptor of same size. Speed is important to her as she is paid on production. Both systems will be using 19 inch basic flat screen monitors. Both systems will be running XP. System 2 will be XP Pro. (Hospital requirement) and a medical version of Word. Speed is important here, but nothing that has to be ripping fast. (also, as the hospital upgrades she needs to be at least close, so at least dual core if not quad if I can swing it) 1st system will be running XP home. So XP drivers for both systems will be important. Both systems will be on networks. System 1 wireless and system 2 wired. I have looked on Tiger and Geeks and haven't quite seen what I need. Budget is 800 for system 1, though I can go to 1k if needed. About 1000 - 1400 for system 2. Any and all help appreciated. BTW, I have the legit copies of XP so that doesn't have to be part of the expense. And, I can put my own systems together, so individual components, if a better deal, is not a problem. Thanks all, Harvey hbest _ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [H] another recommendation
Oh, I'm thinking something like a Foxconn 965p-8kersh. :). Which hell yes does raid 1. (Ich8r). Then again, I say that because I think I'm down to about oh, 108 left. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Harvey Best [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:03:26 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] another recommendation Thanks, what brand is that board? And, can it RAID mirror? The hospital requires it. Thanks, Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:00:45 -0700 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] another recommendation Seriously, save money and you can do something like this for very cheap: E2160 965P Board 8400GT Video 500G HDD DVDRW Basic Case.. You've spent less then $500. CW -Original Message- From: Harvey Best [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alt Cpu hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: 04/17/08 21:48 Subject: [H] another recommendation Hi all, Need to build 2 systems. 1. Strictly business. Don't need fancy graphics, or sound, so onboard video/sound is fine. (I will up the RAM) Dual HDD that are Raid Mirrors are needed. 2. System 2 can be almost like the one above, but needs a better video card. My wife is a Medical Transcriptionist. This will be her work system and her playing with digital pics system. I want dual hdd, and a raid mirror on this as well. I have a Raptor SATA drive that I am going to put in along with another Raptor of same size. Speed is important to her as she is paid on production. Both systems will be using 19 inch basic flat screen monitors. Both systems will be running XP. System 2 will be XP Pro. (Hospital requirement) and a medical version of Word. Speed is important here, but nothing that has to be ripping fast. (also, as the hospital upgrades she needs to be at least close, so at least dual core if not quad if I can swing it) 1st system will be running XP home. So XP drivers for both systems will be important. Both systems will be on networks. System 1 wireless and system 2 wired. I have looked on Tiger and Geeks and haven't quite seen what I need. Budget is 800 for system 1, though I can go to 1k if needed. About 1000 - 1400 for system 2. Any and all help appreciated. BTW, I have the legit copies of XP so that doesn't have to be part of the expense. And, I can put my own systems together, so individual components, if a better deal, is not a problem. Thanks all, Harvey hbest _ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 _ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008
Re: [H] Very nice Shuttle HTPC
For a gaming PC, I'd agree. For a media center, not so sure. Right now, there is nothing on the Intel side that compares with the 780G. Not even close. The G35 chipset is a joke, driver support that sucks, timing issues, plagued by instability; the G45 is delayed (again). Since you can get flawless playback using a 780G and a chip as cheap as a LE-1640, which is absolutely inferior to Intel's Core2 line, but who cares, it powers a media center to do the one function you want, then it doesn't matter. Shuttle's idea is still wrong, though... they are using a micro board, a 3450 separate video card, etc. etc. which just increases cost with no appreciable benefits for the purpose I'm imagining. Use a 1T drive, a 780G and something like a LE-1640, or sure, go for a 4400+ or whatever, a basic card, desktop case, and a blueray drive. Wham. AMD right now doesn't compete at the high end - we definitely see that. But I haven't found anything nearly as effective, quiet, and stable as the 780G. I'm a bit unhappy that it doesn't pass full LPCM (only DD/DTS, 2 Channel uncompressed) but for what it does, there is very little in the marketplace better. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:38 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Very nice Shuttle HTPC AMD processor. Sorry, $2000 for a system with an inferior CPU has no value to me. Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:08:10 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Very nice Shuttle HTPC Great form factor, tons of good features including Blu-Ray HD-DVD combo player for about $1800 ($250 less for Blu-Ray only): http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/268357272/ Hook that puppy up to a SAN or NAS and I think we have a winner of a solution. Brian _ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh _getintouch_042008=
Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
Haven't checked Really on a core2. :). Hmm. Using a 780g I can watch real blueray fullscreen at 1080p on a samsung 56 without a single stutter. Of course, I'm using the all powerful le-1640 $42 cpu. So might make a difference. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Tharin Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:51:03 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour I didn't think the Xbox had the horsepower to handle high bitrate H.264 very well if it all. I've got hi-def rips from BluRay/HDDVD and what not that made a Core2Duo 2180 stutter, display artifacts, etc. because one of the cores was hitting 100% utilization. It wasn't until I installed the CoreAVC codecs that supported SMP that I could achieve flawless playback on such files. Xbox's also require hard drives and aftermarket mods don't they? -Tharin O. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then one htpc and xbox's everywhere else. Hell, with plugins they relay divx/xvid, interface and stored dvd, plus mcl applications. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tharin Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:14:38 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour No doubt a real HTPC built by anyone here would be much better but there are some definite Pros when using a STB (turnkey, compact, low power, quiet, no movable parts, etc). At the moment I wouldn't dream of replacing my HTPC with something like this, but I don't want 3-4 HTPCs in my home. Something like this will be fine for the kitchen, guest bedroom, outdoor stereo, etc. -Tharin O. --- j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not impressed. Starting with the case that I would not even cram my hdd into (had one, returned as junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the current bug list tells me this is slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes into this, I'll bet any of us could build better. SNIP
Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
:). Just what I was trying to get at. The xbox360 doesn't have a seper high end cpu, but it has a native video transcoder. Enough where the usb hd-dvd drive worked. So I don't see why this wouldn't work. I was trying to point out cpu horsepower isn't only variable. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Boswell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:13:37 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour Or just maybe the 780G is doing the decode :P On 9 Apr 2008, at 16:50, Chris Reeves wrote: Haven't checked Really on a core2. :). Hmm. Using a 780g I can watch real blueray fullscreen at 1080p on a samsung 56 without a single stutter. Of course, I'm using the all powerful le-1640 $42 cpu. So might make a difference. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Tharin Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:51:03 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour I didn't think the Xbox had the horsepower to handle high bitrate H.264 very well if it all. I've got hi-def rips from BluRay/HDDVD and what not that made a Core2Duo 2180 stutter, display artifacts, etc. because one of the cores was hitting 100% utilization. It wasn't until I installed the CoreAVC codecs that supported SMP that I could achieve flawless playback on such files. Xbox's also require hard drives and aftermarket mods don't they? -Tharin O. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then one htpc and xbox's everywhere else. Hell, with plugins they relay divx/xvid, interface and stored dvd, plus mcl applications. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tharin Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:14:38 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour No doubt a real HTPC built by anyone here would be much better but there are some definite Pros when using a STB (turnkey, compact, low power, quiet, no movable parts, etc). At the moment I wouldn't dream of replacing my HTPC with something like this, but I don't want 3-4 HTPCs in my home. Something like this will be fine for the kitchen, guest bedroom, outdoor stereo, etc. -Tharin O. --- j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not impressed. Starting with the case that I would not even cram my hdd into (had one, returned as junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the current bug list tells me this is slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes into this, I'll bet any of us could build better. SNIP
Re: [H] Wii ?
My kids love it. We have a wii and the xbox360, but the wii always gets the workout. The games are fun, most of them are simple games you can play and quit and come back to again and again. And some games are just instant classics (super mario galaxy is one of the coolest games on any platform). Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: mark.dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 04:56:06 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Wii ? Will not play any DVD disks, but I love it, great exercise and its one console that the wife enjoys, her favorite is Tiger Woods PGA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:03 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Wii ? Not that familiar with these systems, Internet had not been real helpful to date. Does Wii use HDDVD or BlueRay tech ? or does it even use a disk. Thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why.
Re: [H] Why is multiplayer so addictive?
I'm totally hooked on icc dasher. I'm still a weakling, but up to a 1210 ranking so not too sucky. I just need an online version of 2d axis and allies. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Raul Limos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:58:54 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Why is multiplayer so addictive? On 3/21/08, Hunter, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unreal Tournament has an Invasion mode which my family play regularly. We all join one team and kill the bad guys. We just got Unreal Tournament 3 and that scenario is missing :-( Anyone know of other games where we can all join together and kill the bad guys. We find it more enjoyable than killing each other :-) Try Gears of War for Windows: http://gearsofwar.com/GearsPC/
Re: [H] Need AMD XP Sempron CPU
$78?!?!?! Seriously a le-1640 at $25 less would wipe the floors. Just bute the bullet go am2 and be done. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:46:55 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Need AMD XP Sempron CPU Yes, silly me! Picked up a new Sempron 3300+ for $75 which is essentially a XP 3200+ Barton. Unfortunately it ended up being my (2nd) shit Antec TruePower 480W toasting caps on the 5V rail which is what Asus A7N8X uses for vcore causing the problem. Problem now is tracking down a reputable (non-antec, by principle) PSU w/ 5V rail = 40A which are near non-existent given modern ATX12V 2.x emphasis on 12V amps paltry 30A or less 5V rail.I see great used ones like a OCZ ModStream, but like a car, you can't be sure the last driver didn't abuse it. ;) Thanks to all who made offers! mark.dodge wrote: Did you ever get one? I might have a 3500+ somewhere, I'll check later today. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:16 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] Need AMD XP Sempron CPU Well my 4yo+ OC'd AMD XP-M gave up the ghost so I need to replace it. Sucks as i am just about to dump money into new system pass this along to the kids when it croaks. Anyone have a AXDA3200DKV4E Athlon XP 3200+ or SDA3300DKV4E Sempron 3300+ CPU they're looking to unload $90? Thanks! Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [H] RAM ceiling 3.25GB ...maybe not
Blah. Prove it. Hell, you still have to patch vista 64 to do 4g. Btw, I will have to post some pics later... Xaser VI w/trisli and a few other different water cool options. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:15:16 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] RAM ceiling 3.25GB ...maybe not This is in this months Maximum PC page 23 sidebar. --- Our RAM configuration isn't that simple, though. Although the board posts just fine with 4GB, running a 32-bit windows OS doesn't quite give you full access to the RAM. Check Windows XP and it'll report only 3.25GB free. So is the other .75GB wasted? Not quite. It's a complicated issue, but Microsoft argues that even if the applications cannot use all 4GB of RAM, the OS, and even the drivers, will, so the additional headroom does help. ---
[H] Brief comment: 780G
Ok, so now that it's out, I can say a few things: (1) The 780G on AMD's end is maybe one of the more impressive chipsets I've seen in a very long time. We've been giving it a run on a few of our monitors using the Asus MB, and have found it pretty stunning what kind of performance you can get. Even using a simple (read: CHEAP) 3800+ X2, we had no problems running BlueRay discs at full acceleration to a 61 Samsung DLP. Video is fast, smooth, and power usage is very low.. (2) Putting this thing in a micro case works, which is an advantage. (3) I'm not sure about the market for Oh, combine to a 3450 and do Hybrid SLI. First, it only works under Vista SP1, which will be primarily new PCS (fine, and BTW, when it is available to public download it's worth it) (4) Now we have to see what Intel responds with. Nvidia's already kind of boned themselves, the 9800 series is delayed (AGAIN), and the 8200 IGP is both behind and, by their projections will be at least 15% slower then the 780G. Intel's G35 looks particularly putrid in comparison For those looking to do a Media Center box, this is the best combo I've seen. The chipset has it all - Full HDMI 1.3 support with DTS Master Audio, TrueHD capability, Blueray decoding at low CPU usage on even a cheap ass CPU, and tons of SATA ports for drives. While AMD has been in the doldrums on their CPU side, it's good to see something positive over there going on. CW
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Eh. Part of it is what employees think they can get away with. We have quite a few clients who go the extra length and deploy spector cne everywhere. :) If your in the intellectual property business you have to. If one of their mastercam drawings left their building, there would be a rash of quick firings. (I've been to one... Go out the night before, clean out employee desk, call them and meet them at Denny's in the morning with a crate of their crap. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:45:19 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) so the personal computer is truly dead. Hayes Elkins wrote: It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots disabled. Nobody 10 years ago though much of security concerns when taking 1.44MB floppies home, but when you can put a 32GB flash drive into a desktop and take the entire network shares with you - it raises a red flag on just why anybody needs access to a floppy/ROM/usb storage device in the first place. Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
[H] Admittedly, I bought 200..
Maybe I wiped them out. But, it SEEMED like a good deal ;) Now just to see if it ships. http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186116
Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200..
I've got a project I can use 25 on. So, 25*89 or so that I'll bid them at, fine, that covers all the cost of 200, and then I've got 160 I can throw out and just have them go to prebuilts or whatever. I've used the thing several times and it's fine with a QX6800, etc. So it's not a bad board, just no 1333Mhz support.. but eh, for what it is.. I figured, why grab 25 I know I can use when I can grab a couple hundred and still come out ahead ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:03 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200.. Actually, if that were 5 or 10 motherboards you could answer that question. I think the better question is, what are you going to do with 200 motherboards? - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Harry McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Reeves wrote: Maybe I wiped them out. But, it SEEMED like a good deal ;) So what are you going to do with $1500 worth of motherboards? Harry Now just to see if it ships. http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186116
Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200..
They've now changed the price on the ad. Instead of $8 a board, it's $59 a board ($109-50) who gives a crap, all of mine are marked as shipped already, I paid RUSH just in case ;) And charged the right amount ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:39 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200.. I've got a project I can use 25 on. So, 25*89 or so that I'll bid them at, fine, that covers all the cost of 200, and then I've got 160 I can throw out and just have them go to prebuilts or whatever. I've used the thing several times and it's fine with a QX6800, etc. So it's not a bad board, just no 1333Mhz support.. but eh, for what it is.. I figured, why grab 25 I know I can use when I can grab a couple hundred and still come out ahead ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:03 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200.. Actually, if that were 5 or 10 motherboards you could answer that question. I think the better question is, what are you going to do with 200 motherboards? - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Harry McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Reeves wrote: Maybe I wiped them out. But, it SEEMED like a good deal ;) So what are you going to do with $1500 worth of motherboards? Harry Now just to see if it ships. http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186116
Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200..
Nope, instant. I ordered in lots of forty. I'd attach a PDF, but for a lot of forty, my total cost: $422. I paid $10.55 per board after shipping, and they are now all marked as shipped with tracking #s. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:06 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200.. Wasnt that a rebate deal? --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation Sent from my iPhone On 29-Feb-08, at 5:44 PM, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They've now changed the price on the ad. Instead of $8 a board, it's $59 a board ($109-50) who gives a crap, all of mine are marked as shipped already, I paid RUSH just in case ;) And charged the right amount ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:39 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200.. I've got a project I can use 25 on. So, 25*89 or so that I'll bid them at, fine, that covers all the cost of 200, and then I've got 160 I can throw out and just have them go to prebuilts or whatever. I've used the thing several times and it's fine with a QX6800, etc. So it's not a bad board, just no 1333Mhz support.. but eh, for what it is.. I figured, why grab 25 I know I can use when I can grab a couple hundred and still come out ahead ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:03 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200.. Actually, if that were 5 or 10 motherboards you could answer that question. I think the better question is, what are you going to do with 200 motherboards? - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Harry McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Reeves wrote: Maybe I wiped them out. But, it SEEMED like a good deal ;) So what are you going to do with $1500 worth of motherboards? Harry Now just to see if it ships. http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186116
Re: [H] probably a really dumb question
I've been really happy with: silverstone, nspire, ocz and pc power and cooling supplies. I agree on antec... Suck. Way overrated and their cable lengths are all messed up, even for their own damn cases. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:37:20 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] probably a really dumb question ALong these lines: What brand ATX PSU is good available for a A7N8X mobo that needs 35A+ on the 5V line? Seems my dead CPU was not dead but rather my Antec TP480 Blue drooping to 4.5V on the 5V line, POS that it is my second unit from RMA that is now out of warranty w/ only 1 year of real time on it. Fuck Antec! Harvey Best wrote: Have an Asus K8V-SE motherboard with a bad AMD chip. Also have a system with a socket a 1 gig Athlon chip. Model 1131 Will the Socket A work in the Socket 754 Asus board? I am fairly sure it won't and am researching now, but the answer here will probably be quicker than my research! :) Thanks, Harvey _ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [H] Is the Lenovo brand good anymore?
Support sucks. Learned that the hard way. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Bobby Heid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:00:15 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Is the Lenovo brand good anymore? I am trying to find a decent low-cost laptop for a friend of mine (not the AOL guy) and came across this at Office Depot: http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SKid=401515 for $579 after rebate. Is Lenovo still a good product after IBM sold the name? I know this is only has the 533MHz FSB. Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] Is the Lenovo brand good anymore?
I've been incredibly happy with acers support. Damn near next day turn around on replacments. And Asus, though their Fedex advance is only on higher end units. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Gary VanderMolen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:14:24 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is the Lenovo brand good anymore? Which low-cost laptop seller doesn't have support that sucks? Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) -- From: Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Support sucks. Learned that the hard way. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Bobby Heid [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to find a decent low-cost laptop for a friend of mine (not the AOL guy) and came across this at Office Depot: http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SKid=401515 for $579 after rebate. Is Lenovo still a good product after IBM sold the name? I know this is only has the 533MHz FSB.
[H] Vista class action
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/352442_vista23.html Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: [H] Vista class action
On the comparison guide I have from the Microsoft TS2 meeting here that's what it says. That could be wrong. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Boswell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:45:36 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Vista class action Wait, what.. VHB doesn't have DirectX 10??? Are you sure about that? On 24 Feb 2008, at 17:34:360, Chris Reeves wrote: I've often wondered how they can call Home Basic Vista also, though. Let's see, missing features: * No Aero * No backup to anything but local * No DirectX10 * Doesn't come with new Vista games and themes * Windows Vista Meeting not present * Media Center not present (OK, that's an add on) I mean, wipe out all those features, and really, do you have Vista or basically XP Home SP3?
Re: [H] Vista class action
I've often wondered how they can call Home Basic Vista also, though. Let's see, missing features: * No Aero * No backup to anything but local * No DirectX10 * Doesn't come with new Vista games and themes * Windows Vista Meeting not present * Media Center not present (OK, that's an add on) I mean, wipe out all those features, and really, do you have Vista or basically XP Home SP3? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:30 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Vista class action This is absolutely the most retarded thing I've ever read: These common issues ... are whether Vista Home Basic, in truth, can fairly be called 'Vista' and whether Microsoft's 'Windows Vista Capable' marketing campaign inflated demand market-wide for 'Windows Vista Capable' PCs, she wrote. Why the hell would you not call Vista Home Basic Vista? And since when has there been market demand for Vista at all? If anything, Vista has put XP in more demand. I hate lawyers. Chris Reeves wrote: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/352442_vista23.html Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser
Because they all still equally own a percentage of the $2 tip the bell boy has. He has $2 of their money they paid, he didn't have that money before they arrived. So even after he gives them money, he kept two, so each of them paid 9.66 etc (someone gave a penny) to cover the $2 tip they did pay for. :) :). The bellboys $2 isn't free :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:29:17 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser They started with $10 each and ended up with $1 each, how could they have paid $9.3? -Original Message- From: Chris Reeves He can't do math. They gave him 30. He's holding 5. That means they kicked in 25 total, or 8. per each. Give each $1, and they all gave 9 and 1/3 basically. Which leaves $2 left. The end. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Rick Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:45 To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser 3 guys walk into a hotel and request a room. (Don't ask why 3 guys are getting a room) The bell boy at the service desk says its $30, so each guy pays $10. As the bell boy at the service desk is putting away the 3 $10 bills, the hotel manager returns, see's this and says The room is not $30, its $25, on sale this week. Go return $5. As the bell boy is going up the elevator, he's wondering how he is going to split $5 between 3 boys - so he reasons since I'm such a good guy, I'll give each guy $1 (3 x $1 = $3) and I'll keep $2 myself. Now, each guy renting the room has paid $9, and the bell boy keeps $2: $2 + (3 x $9) = $29 Where did the missing $1 go?
Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser
James, the bellhop still took money away from the guys. They were the ones who put in the initial $30. The till didn't go 'out of pocket' to hand the bellboy $2. That $2 still came from the guys who put up the original $30. So, each of them gave the bellboy in effect .666 cents to make up his tip. $2 didn't magically appear. When the register refunded $5, it was still refunding the clients money... Or we could say the bellboy stole $2 of their money and they go beat him up later. :). But that money he has is still their money. :). Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:24:59 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser Still not seeing the math! See my previous post. The boys definitely paid an even $9 each. Jim -Original Message- From: Chris Reeves Because they all still equally own a percentage of the $2 tip the bell boy has. He has $2 of their money they paid, he didn't have that money before they arrived. So even after he gives them money, he kept two, so each of them paid 9.66 etc (someone gave a penny) to cover the $2 tip they did pay for. :) :). The bellboys $2 isn't free :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:29:17 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser They started with $10 each and ended up with $1 each, how could they have paid $9.3? -Original Message- From: Chris Reeves He can't do math. They gave him 30. He's holding 5. That means they kicked in 25 total, or 8. per each. Give each $1, and they all gave 9 and 1/3 basically. Which leaves $2 left. The end. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Rick Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:45 To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser 3 guys walk into a hotel and request a room. (Don't ask why 3 guys are getting a room) The bell boy at the service desk says its $30, so each guy pays $10. As the bell boy at the service desk is putting away the 3 $10 bills, the hotel manager returns, see's this and says The room is not $30, its $25, on sale this week. Go return $5. As the bell boy is going up the elevator, he's wondering how he is going to split $5 between 3 boys - so he reasons since I'm such a good guy, I'll give each guy $1 (3 x $1 = $3) and I'll keep $2 myself. Now, each guy renting the room has paid $9, and the bell boy keeps $2: $2 + (3 x $9) = $29 Where did the missing $1 go?
Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser
Your looking at it like 'each guy paid $9'. Except that's not what happened. They paid $9 and each of them still have a share of the $2 that they paid the kid. That's all I'm saying. :). Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:24:59 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser Still not seeing the math! See my previous post. The boys definitely paid an even $9 each. Jim -Original Message- From: Chris Reeves Because they all still equally own a percentage of the $2 tip the bell boy has. He has $2 of their money they paid, he didn't have that money before they arrived. So even after he gives them money, he kept two, so each of them paid 9.66 etc (someone gave a penny) to cover the $2 tip they did pay for. :) :). The bellboys $2 isn't free :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:29:17 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser They started with $10 each and ended up with $1 each, how could they have paid $9.3? -Original Message- From: Chris Reeves He can't do math. They gave him 30. He's holding 5. That means they kicked in 25 total, or 8. per each. Give each $1, and they all gave 9 and 1/3 basically. Which leaves $2 left. The end. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Rick Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:45 To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser 3 guys walk into a hotel and request a room. (Don't ask why 3 guys are getting a room) The bell boy at the service desk says its $30, so each guy pays $10. As the bell boy at the service desk is putting away the 3 $10 bills, the hotel manager returns, see's this and says The room is not $30, its $25, on sale this week. Go return $5. As the bell boy is going up the elevator, he's wondering how he is going to split $5 between 3 boys - so he reasons since I'm such a good guy, I'll give each guy $1 (3 x $1 = $3) and I'll keep $2 myself. Now, each guy renting the room has paid $9, and the bell boy keeps $2: $2 + (3 x $9) = $29 Where did the missing $1 go?
Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser
Ok. See it. :). 25+2 for the tip. :). Blah. What you get when your mind fixates. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:50:08 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser I'll try one last time. I enjoy brain teasers and mean no disrespect. This is just for fun! :) $25 in the till / 3 = $8.33 per person + $2 in bell hop's pocket / 3 = $0.67 per person -- = $27 Total expenditure / 3 = $9.00 per person The people started with $10 each and ended up with $1 each, so they HAD to have paid a total of $9 each. If you still don't see the logic of the problem, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. But this has been a fun discourse. :) Jim
Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser
Yeah, that was the part that confused me the 9*3 equals 29, and I dismissed it as a typo. The grammar on that had me flipping the 3 and 2, thus I was looking at it in reverse. Blah!! Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:07:00 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser Well, I am so glad that we can now agree to agree! I know when I first read the original post, I could not get my mind around the problem. It seemed impossible! It is the way they framed the question, which gave false information: Now, each guy renting the room has paid $9, and the bell boy keeps $2: $2 + (3 x $9) = $29 The $2 tip is PART of the 3 x $9, so they have misdirected the reader to think something that is not true. They wanted you to fixate on that information! It's Been Fun! :) Jim -Original Message- From: Chris Reeves Ok. See it. :). 25+2 for the tip. :). Blah. What you get when your mind fixates. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll try one last time. I enjoy brain teasers and mean no disrespect. This is just for fun! :) $25 in the till / 3 = $8.33 per person + $2 in bell hop's pocket / 3 = $0.67 per person -- = $27 Total expenditure / 3 = $9.00 per person The people started with $10 each and ended up with $1 each, so they HAD to have paid a total of $9 each. If you still don't see the logic of the problem, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. But this has been a fun discourse. :) Jim
Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser
Yeah, that grammar error had me flipping the values. I knew they paid the kid, but I kept wanting to go back to the initial statement. So instead of thinking 'they paid $25 and split the tip for the bellboy which is $2 divided amongst themselves' I wanted to say; they paid in $28 (they didn't) flipping the 3 and 2. That wording threw me for a loop and doing it on a blackberry in rural kansas blah. And of course, as I'm redoing the math have to get pulled over in nowheres ville for a 90 / 65. Double blah! Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:07:00 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser Well, I am so glad that we can now agree to agree! I know when I first read the original post, I could not get my mind around the problem. It seemed impossible! It is the way they framed the question, which gave false information: Now, each guy renting the room has paid $9, and the bell boy keeps $2: $2 + (3 x $9) = $29 The $2 tip is PART of the 3 x $9, so they have misdirected the reader to think something that is not true. They wanted you to fixate on that information! It's Been Fun! :) Jim -Original Message- From: Chris Reeves Ok. See it. :). 25+2 for the tip. :). Blah. What you get when your mind fixates. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll try one last time. I enjoy brain teasers and mean no disrespect. This is just for fun! :) $25 in the till / 3 = $8.33 per person + $2 in bell hop's pocket / 3 = $0.67 per person -- = $27 Total expenditure / 3 = $9.00 per person The people started with $10 each and ended up with $1 each, so they HAD to have paid a total of $9 each. If you still don't see the logic of the problem, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. But this has been a fun discourse. :) Jim
Re: [H] God is a football fan
Heheheh Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:12:38 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] God is a football fan And he doesn't like cheaters
Re: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser
He can't do math. They gave him 30. He's holding 5. That means they kicked in 25 total, or 8. per each. Give each $1, and they all gave 9 and 1/3 basically. Which leaves $2 left. The end. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Rick Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:07:45 To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] OT-2-New Brain Teaser 3 guys walk into a hotel and request a room. (Don't ask why 3 guys are getting a room) The bell boy at the service desk says its $30, so each guy pays $10. As the bell boy at the service desk is putting away the 3 $10 bills, the hotel manager returns, see's this and says The room is not $30, its $25, on sale this week. Go return $5. As the bell boy is going up the elevator, he's wondering how he is going to split $5 between 3 boys - so he reasons since I'm such a good guy, I'll give each guy $1 (3 x $1 = $3) and I'll keep $2 myself. Now, each guy renting the room has paid $9, and the bell boy keeps $2: $2 + (3 x $9) = $29 Where did the missing $1 go?
Re: [H] AMD motherboard
Asus M3A is a good, AM2+ Board you can find in your range. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Dodge Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:08 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] AMD motherboard I am looking to replace a KN1 lite that the USB ports went belly up in and want to continue to use my ddr and Athlon 64 X2 4200 in. I do not need SLI, I have a 6600GT. And I want something mid range. Any suggestions for around 100 bucks or less?? Mark
Re: [H] Free AV ?
I don't generally give people a free if they don't want it. However, in regards to the theory that 'Paid is better then free'. I would counter that every time. I've absolutely recommended Avast to numerous people, including having them pay for the thing if they feel like it. Why? There are a lot of reasons, but the biggest are: * I've never seen more junky, bulky programs then the current versions of Norton McAfee. I don't care about AVS Bulletin reports that show how well they perform.. because they live in a kind of dream world in which everyone is always 100% updated and nothing wrong happens. Updating either of those programs is a BITCH. Out of the box, installing Norton 2008, your first download (as of today) is 56MB(!) For the love of pete, this is ridiculous. While people don't like to think this way, we have a ton of people either still on dialup or on life-line DSL (ATT's 128k plan) so a download of that size means they are taking tons of time... and how many do it? Not as many as we'd like to think. Meanwhile, general updates for the free versions are smaller; hell, I can download the whole program for less. * Many of the 'features' in Norton/McAfee have an incredible propensity to go wrong. You know how many times I've had to use NRT (Norton Removal Tool, available at their website) to get Norton off because it wouldn't uninstall correctly or left Winsock broken? The reason we even had to uninstall is because of things like.. password lost on parental control features, in one case a virus (which it didn't detect) immediately banged Norton's firewall so the user was hosed. * McAfee's annoying pop-ups. Please, if I want a program to continuously pop up and tell me shit or offer me to buy other programs all the time, I might as well be spyware infected. McAfee's incessant offers and other BS totally inert any reason to buy it. * Both programs create a significant performance drop that doesn't equate to the performance they do. Of the paid AVs, ESET is the one that I would recommend most.. after Symantec's embarrassing heuristic issues this year with Yahoo! Webmail and Google (detecting as Feebs?) as well as their continued bloat Look, I have two offices that are small offices I see often. One is setup with 6 computers, everyone running Avast and a ClarkConnect Firewall with AV. I've not had a single issue there in two years (virus wise). The other went all Symantec, with a Symantec Firewall w/AV and Small Business Pack (which isn't corporate edition, damnit, but like a 5 pack of standard Norton AV) Guess who I've seen at least a dozen times with issues? Now part of it is that I believe the ClarkConnect Firewall is infinitely better then Symantec's, but still, the proof for me is right there in the pudding. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:40 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free AV ? At 09:28 AM 11/01/2008, FORC5 wrote: Procrastination is king, some do. Most are just too stupid or just plain lazy. I often wonder if they ever change their oil or check their tire pressures. Good money on fresh installs when needed 8-) I never give a free AV if they don't want one. I'm not going to take responsibility and listen to them complain But YOU told me to use the free one. T
Re: [H] Free AV ?
* I've never seen more junky, bulky programs then the current versions of Norton McAfee. I don't care about AVS Bulletin reports that show how well Hi, the rest of the world has more then these two major brand AV's though, Try NOD32 from ESET. Bye. Joe: You obviously didn't bother to read my whole message, where I ended with: Of the paid AVs, ESET is the one that I would recommend most.. after Symantec's embarrassing heuristic issues this year with Yahoo! Webmail and Google (detecting as Feebs?) as well as their continued bloat But here's the reality you were missing: you I know there are numerous solutions, and I've praised several here in the past (including ESET, which I mentioned Directly in the email you responded to). But in the common place, the general joe-sixpack doesn't go hunt for ESET. They go with what walmart or target has on the shelf. And that isn't ESET. (Sorry!) More then that, whether we like it or not, McAfee Norton have name-brand recognition within the field. I personally drink Dr. Pepper and prefer Caribou Coffee Hot Chocolate. But I recognize that Coke/Pepsi and Starbucks are much bigger names in the marketplace. They have brand recognition. The same is true of those products. Just the way the world works.
Re: [H] Free AV ?
In regards to success rates, the only two products I know of that continually have a super-high success rate are Avast and ESET. I'd put them incredibly ahead of any of the (consumer level, not corporate edition) products I've used. Period. Both of them, especially with their pre-windows execution system, do a much more effective job then anything I've tested otherwise. The biggest reasons are: * smaller, more frequent download of base definitions which keep them up to date easier. * Lightweight and effective without lots of add-ons that do nothing but goofy looks/frills. No AV program is perfect, but out of all the options that are out there, I'd put Avast and even AVG considerably above numerous solutions out there.. I can't tell you how many times I run into people running things like BullDog AV or whatever, and those things manage to get people to pay money for something that performs like total crap, eats up performance and does nothing. They buy it because Oh, I saw it advertised on a webpage (most likely a pop-up). No software out there is perfect; but a big part of it is staying up to date. When the updates are significant, it diminishes the end user's chance of doing it. So, I'm just saying, before we rain on the parade of some of the free softs out there, you might give them a look again. Because the # of units I see float through virused that where installed with Norton far outways the ones installed with free. And yes, I can't think of when I've seen units come through here virus'd with ESET. Just the way it goes. None are perfect, but the free aren't nearly as woeful as the options were in the past. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:16 PM To: Gary VanderMolen Subject: Re: [H] Free AV ? Hello Gary, Friday, January 11, 2008, 11:58:21 AM, you wrote: I don't buy the blanket statement that paid AVs are better than free ones. Both AVG and Avast have paid versions, and (AFAIK) the free version uses the same basic engine as the paid version. The only difference would be added bells and whistles that most users don't need. All that means that both their free and paid version ain't worth much. Detection rates, performance, support - these things matter. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] DDR2 RAM
No, board matters. Its easier to get 5.9 on an amd box or an intel chipset then it is on a 680i box. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:42:06 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] DDR2 RAM That's quite odd. I see 5.9 all the time...doesn't matter if I'm running DDR2 at 800MHz, 900MHz, 1066MHz, CAS4, CAS5...Corsair, OCZ...only time I didn't see 5.9 was when I was running at 720MHz C4 for a short period, and on legacy DDR. Could memory size play a role perhaps? All I ever mess with is 4.0GB+ now.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:10 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 6.0/5.3] Re: [H] DDR2 RAM Here's what's funny. The most demanded ram we ship is corsair dominator series. Which (make of it what you will) pulls about a 5.3 in the vista scores when combined with a qx9650. But if I use cheap g.skill ddr2, in the exact same setup, 5.5, 5.6 is common. So far memory is the only thing that I've ever seen only 1 5.9, and that was with ddr3. Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] DDR2
Vista 64 still pukes all over itself at 8 gig in quite a few configurations. You get weird memory leaks and blue screens once you cross 6, even in 64 vista (note: not in server 2003 64 though on same boards). Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:05:06 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] DDR2 To effectively use anything over 3GB (excepting, of course, rare PAE-aware applications), yes, you must use a 64-bit version of Windows. 4GB is a hard 32-bit OS limit--regardless of the OS. Windows just chooses to reserve between 1 and 2GB (dependent upon the /3GB switch) exclusively for the kernel. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:02 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] DDR2 don't ya need 64bit to see all that memory even in vista ? fp At 03:50 PM 1/5/2008, Winterlight Poked the stick with: I will get 4GB now and run XP Pro so that shouldn't be a problem for me at this price I might even get 8GB should I decide to install Vista -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Some things have to be believed to be seen.
Re: [H] Building a Virtualization box
Unless someone knows or has seen something I haven't, video acceleration capable of hd, or to utilize specific hardware like a tv tuner doesn't exist. Video cards and sound, etc are all emulated and therefore sucky for that purpose. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:11:51 To:hwg hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Building a Virtualization box I wanted to pick everyone's brain a bit about building a virtualization machine (vm). Right now I have 2 machines, my main desktop and my HTPC. I would like to consolidate them into one box. It would be in my office behind the wall where the A/V rack is for the home theater. The goal would be to have 3 VMs running at all times: 1 dedicated to HTPC functions with video out from the card to the A/V rack Either 1 work XP VM OR 1 gaming Xp VM 1 VM linux web server The hardware would be an Intel quad-core (probably Q6600), 4GB of DDR2. I would like to continue using my Radeon Sapphire X1950XT card but I think that might be a problem. It has 2 DVI outputs with HDCP but I'm not sure how it would work if I tried to game and feed a DVD at the same time. Questions I need to get answered before I can pull this off: - If you install some new software or have another reason to reboot one of the VM instances can you just restart it and avoid rebooting the whole machine? - When you boot up, is there a primary OS that loads and then you run the different VMs inside of it or do you boot straight to a VM? - Can you divvy up the resources for running multiple VMs at once so like each gets a GB of RAM and 2 cores? - Would I need 2 Video cards, one associated with the HTPC VM and one associated with the Work/gaming VM? - If I do need 2 cards, how would that work hardware wise? Never done it before in the same box. Do I just get a board with 2 PCI-Express slots and slap a card in each? We're not talking about SLI here - but two different cards working independently. -- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] X38 DD2 mobo's was Re: gigabyte MB's ?
Not bad. The last two weeks here have been crazed.. last Tuesday, we had an ice storm rip through KC, knocked power out to where the shop is for a few days.. which sucked balls, put everything behind.. and then at the end of it, an electrical whammo near my house burned our house down (literally!) so we've been doing all the hotel living and at the same time I'm working almost 24/7 getting all this s*( done for people for Christmas. Tonight we sent out a set of boxes, a little later then I wanted, but they were trickier to get together; we didn't get 780i boards until 12/14, so it was really to the wire but I'm actually more impressed with TriSLI then Anand, and I'm actually really impressed with how well it works for people who do CUDA. Thought I'd throw up a pic: http://www.kctechheads.com/conroe/780i2.jpg I'll try to throw up some of the Solid State Drive setup we're sending out, but I'm not going to get that one to them by Christmas... I can't tell you how bad that sucks (but then again, no way to really do anything when you have no power; we sat for about 2.5 days just walking around and answering phones.. and yes, for next year, I'll get a generator) Nice to see Crysis detect highest settings across the board ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:30 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] X38 DD2 mobo's was Re: gigabyte MB's ? How about DDR2 X38's like the P5E? Chris Reeves wrote: X38 is exceptionally nice. The Asus p5e3 wifi is easily one of the best boards I've ever used. We got in the first round of 780is on Friday, 5 EVGA boards and 2 Asus Striker 2s. The striker 2s are pure garbage, using a qx9650 they still freak out, are unstable and frequently bluescreen. The eVGAs are nothing special, but they seem solid: the new layouts resemble the 790fx boards. I do like the pure coal look to the evga though. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM
Re: [H] X38 DD2 mobo's was Re: gigabyte MB's ?
You said it. :( thank god for insurance, but the short term sucks out loud. We've been looking for rental houses but right now is the worst time to look, there aren't landlords available to show anything. And you find out quickly that living in a hotel REALLY sucks. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:08:23 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] X38 DD2 mobo's was Re: gigabyte MB's ? Dude, your house burned down? That sucks. :( Sorry to hear that.. Not bad. The last two weeks here have been crazed.. last Tuesday, we had an ice storm rip through KC, knocked power out to where the shop is for a few days.. which sucked balls, put everything behind.. and then at the end of it, an electrical whammo near my house burned our house down (literally!) so we've been doing all the hotel living and at the same time I'm working almost 24/7 getting all this s*( done for people for Christmas. -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
Re: [H] NAS storage
I should take a picture of a box we just did for a total idiot for Christmas. 1 128g Transcend Solid State and then 3 1TB Hitachis. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:45:54 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] NAS storage YaKnow, UGuys with bucks could really p*ss this peapicker off, but I do so love living vicariously with what you folks do! Really. I get ideas from your choices.Please don't stop. JRS, UR soBAD! Best, Duncan At 16:34 12/20/2007 -0800, you wrote: I bit the bullet and sold off my 160's and 200's to friends and bought 4 new 500 gig drives, 2 for the PC and 2 for the NAS I bought... Went from having 5 drives to just 3 in the PC, one 74 gig Raptor boot drive and the two 500 gig data drives. :) This holiday season I'm looking into NAS storage. I know the buffalo system is possibly the best route for me, but I dunno what to do about my old drives... i have a 160 and a 250 gb disks (both PATA). I thought about getting seperate NAS systems to put these guys in, but then wondered if the combined cost would serve me better picking up any of the available NAS systems with sata drives. I wonder what others would do in this situation. -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?
I've played with it and would never trade my blackberry for an iphone. 1 word: autotext. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:11:46 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back? On 12/19/07, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the majority of Jim Bob apple users, the iphone makes their desktops obsolete. I wouldn't go THAT far. I make a lot of international calls so the lack of Skype/SIP is a bit problem for me as is the lack of 3G and data plans here in Canada. And no cut'n'paste is huge. But its only the 1st Gen and I expect Apple to make great improvements over the next few years. -- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?
It will synchronize calendars with outlook on exchange though. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:16:06 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back? AFAIK the iPhone doesn't support exchange servers, only basic IMAP or SMTP functions. On 12/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. You know, this is partly turning into a pita for me. I have a client who's exchange 2000 server bit it. So down went their whole sbs domain (this is a new client who got me after this happened). Anyway, we get everything back up on new server, merge their old mailboxes back in, etc. But no matter what, their iphones now refuse to synchronize with new server. Blah If I can figure out how to make it release old server and connect to the new, damn would that be handy. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:45:39 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back? I was actually a big fan of MediaMonkey on both Windows and Linux. But alas with the iPhone you must use iTunes to sync with it - they haven't cracked that part yet. There is a hack to sync music but nothing else, no contacts or videos or anything. On 12/19/07, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bah I may be alone but I hate itunes with a passion. Even on my wife's ipod, before it was recently destroyed, we just used anapod explorer instead. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:35:15 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back? M is not W, flat out Zen W has the bigger screen and slightly less annoying software to load files with. Ben Ruset wrote: I bought a Vision:M and within 2 days sold it and bought a 5th Gen iPod. For me nothing is better than iTunes + iPod. j maccraw wrote: LOL, I'd buy another Creative ZEN Vision:W then a Archos or something before I'd buy a Zune. Hell I'd buy an Ipod before Zune and I'd NEVER buy an Ipod... Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- Brian Weeden -- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?
Why would you pay when Verizon and Cingular let you configure theirs to work with yours in their new system, and its really slick (synchronizes via OWA). Hell, I synch three different exchange servers on my blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:27:51 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back? Sure, if you want to pay for BES. We have no corporate owned mobile phones, so people use what they own. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can make blackberries work with exchange right off the bat with BES, Redirector or the new BIS. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:23:07 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back? You are correct. The few iPhone users (as well as people with Blackberries) in my office are using Secure IMAP and SMTP auth to send/receive mail. Brian Weeden wrote: AFAIK the iPhone doesn't support exchange servers, only basic IMAP or SMTP functions.
Re: [H] gigabyte MB's ?
X38 is exceptionally nice. The Asus p5e3 wifi is easily one of the best boards I've ever used. We got in the first round of 780is on Friday, 5 EVGA boards and 2 Asus Striker 2s. The striker 2s are pure garbage, using a qx9650 they still freak out, are unstable and frequently bluescreen. The eVGAs are nothing special, but they seem solid: the new layouts resemble the 790fx boards. I do like the pure coal look to the evga though. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:56:39 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] gigabyte MB's ? In favor of an Intel X38 then or something else down the road at top dollar again? It's my impression 680i is OK as long as you don't want to do Quad core? Not that I plan on buying quad and the recommended rev 2.0 Gigabyte 680i board is off the market as of November anyway. Meanwhile here sits my empty TT Armor case waiting for a mobo to get cheap enough! Greg Sevart wrote: I think the advice is to stay away from Nvidia's 680i chipset completely, regardless of the board maker. I could not agree more. Awful chipset. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:22 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] gigabyte MB's ? At 09:31 12-17-2007, Anthony Q. Martin typed: I've had very good experience with Gigabyte boards...don't use an n-force, though. Why as I've had great experience with nforce based Gigabyte boards? I'm typing this on one now. ---+-- I'm a geek that loves to tweak. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [H] big hd opinions?
I've had no troubles in 6 months using Naslite on a p3-866 440bx w/4 750gb drives as a nas. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:20:57 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] big hd opinions? You're going to need an add-in PCI card anyway. The 440BX in that BX6 board only supported ATA33, and didn't support 48bit LBA. Hence, no drives 128GB are supported. The OS may be able to override this, but would you trust it? Plus, assuming you're using gigabit, your interface is going to limit your throughput. 2 hot spares for 4 spindles is a little overkill. I generally only use one HS unless the spindle count is 15. (ie: the smallish 30-spindle EMC SAN I just deployed has 2 hotspares, which is actually more than EMC's recommended 1 per 30). Any reason why you wouldn't just use RAID10? Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:58 PM To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] big hd opinions? Ready to build my NAS. The m/b is a very old Abit BX6 r2.0 with an Intel P2-450. And I want it to run headless; like a humming box (appliance) in the corner! I suspect this puts SATA drives out of class ATM, unless I try some PATA/SATA adapters. This is possible; but was really planning to use PATA drives due to the m/b's age. The OS will be some flavor of the current NASLite series. Can not decide which version to buy ATM. Looking for opinions and/or user experience with the crop of 100GB hard drives. The plan is to try 4x 500GB drives. 2 hot, 2 as hot spares. Opinions welcome. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Any WinXP SP3 users out there?
The did get rid of the kill switch, which is funny. At this point, if someone came up with reliable DX10 on XP, Vista would be dead (IMHO). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:43 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Any WinXP SP3 users out there? At 08:48 12-05-2007, Greg Sevart typed: Yay, Word is 10% faster. Who cares? I do in that I always like to spread my sheets faster maybe that's why they call it Excel. ;-) FWIW I already use O2k7 on my XP x64 system therefore it's already more than 10% faster. So which is it? O2k7 that they're making faster or is it XP ? If it's XP I have to add more DRM crapola like I heard it would then I'll just skip the SP. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7126902.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/ hi/technology/7126902.stm Gee on another list I heard they were getting too many complaints about the Vista kill switch if we keep complaining maybe they'll get rid of the DRM BS. ---+-- I'm a geek that loves to tweak. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1172 - Release Date: 12/5/2007 8:41 AM
Re: [H] Mixing integrated graphics and PCIe x16 video card
Eh... Its not a 9800. But its a very solid performer and frankly I was very impressed. The nvidia 7150 series is also not bad. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: john gouveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:22:30 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Mixing integrated graphics and PCIe x16 video card Just curious - how would the 690G's video compare to a 9800pro? Not expecting much - all that gets played on it is a bit of Civ and Empires series, but they're looking to keep the cost of upgrades down. Thanks. On 11/29/07, Raul Limos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/30/07, James Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read both reviews and did not see any reference to mixing integrated graphics with a PCIe graphics card. Did I miss something? If you look at the diagram at theXbitlabs site on the chipset it will probably can. From Tech Report: The 690G offers plenty of options on this front, with native support for VGA, DVI, and HDMI output. DVI and HDMI output are independent, so you can run both at the same time. -- -jmg -sapere aude
Re: [H] DVD burner suggestions
Liteon. Avoid Samsung and Sony ones like the plague. Also good are the Asus (liteon based) and the pioneer and plextors. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Joe User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:16:52 To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] DVD burner suggestions Friend looking to get a DVD burner for his old AMD Athlon XP 1800-ish running Win2K Pro. His wife has some 'photek' (or something) program that lets you take pics and music and put them on a DVD for everyone to watch and listen too. So was wondering if anyone had some good experiences they'd like to share and/or other useful advice... thanks... -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
Re: [H] Looking for rack mountable case for HTPC
Look at the Silverstone Crown series. :). Ok on the other side Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:56:42 To:hwg hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Looking for rack mountable case for HTPC I currently am using a full-size tower for my HTPC, mainly because of the 8 HDs it has. But I am building a home theater room in the basement and going to install one of these: http://middleatlantic.com/enclosure/roll/srsr.htm Now the problem is that it's pretty hard to put a tower case in there. The only option I see would be to cut a hole in the bottom and put the PC down there. Suggestions? -- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] Looking for rack mountable case for HTPC
I will say this though.. the CW03 is SUPER spendy, but it may be the greatest case I have ever used. The touch screen on the front is BRILLIANT, and the entire design is so dead quiet... equip it with a Pioneer BDC-202, and walla, you've got damn near everything you're after. I am very, very, very impressed with the case. That case, and the TJ09 case are both incredibly impressive from them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 11:54 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Looking for rack mountable case for HTPC http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_photo.php?pno=cw02area=usa The CW02 is one slick looking product. $400 is a bit stiff, but this is the only HTPC case I've seen thus far that looks just like a high end receiver - oh wait, it IS a high end receiver, Marantz uses this exact same chasis :) Not as impressed with the CW01 or the mucho expensivo CW03 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:10:25 + Subject: Re: [H] Looking for rack mountable case for HTPC Neh. You take two of the open 5.25s and convert it to an amc hot swap sata, bang in 4 or 5 drives, now you've got room for at least 10, enough for 8t+ storage. :) Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 10:05:06 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Looking for rack mountable case for HTPC Nice but IMHO pretty expensive for what you get. They offer the same amount of 3.5 drive space as the GD01 series which is half the price. The LED thing is cool but I use mostly on-screen stuff so I wouldn't use it much. On Dec 1, 2007 9:58 AM, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at the Silverstone Crown series. :). Ok on the other side Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:56:42 To:hwg hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Looking for rack mountable case for HTPCI currently am using a full-size tower for my HTPC, mainly because of the 8 HDs it has. But I am building a home theater room in the basement and going to install one of these: http://middleatlantic.com/enclosure/roll/srsr.htm Now the problem is that it's pretty hard to put a tower case in there. The only option I see would be to cut a hole in the bottom and put the PC down there. Suggestions? -- Brian Weeden -- Brian Weeden _ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: 12/1/2007 12:05 PM
[H] QX9650 Phenom 9500 thoughts
Ok, we're in the middle of like the Christmas push here so all the QX9650s are going out the door. Just some thoughts: . People on Nvidia 680i boards: you're totally f*(*. It doesn't work. Hell, it barely posts. But, like the Q6600, it just sticks at multiplier 6 when it does post.. and that's not often. Humorously, the Intel 965/Q33/P35/X38 all get it. (The Intel 975 does not..). So, if you invested heavy in a 680i board and SLI.. you're hosed until the 780i, which isn't until the 17th. . The performance is SICK. Forget the fact that it's the same speed as the QX6850.. the thing runs damn near cold. Using an Artic Pro 7 fan, the processor easily sticks under 30C.. that's pretty incredible. * Team it up with an X38 P5E3-WiFi, and you get 5.9's down the board in Vista.. not bad. * DDR3 is still incredibly expensive compared to DDR2, and you really don't want DDR3-1066, you want DDR3-1333. * Sticking with your 680i? Wolfdale 2 core out in January. Phenom... Thoughts: * Less $ then a Q6600, and doesn't perform to a Q6600 except in certain applications. * Does distribute tasks very well, and so in some functions works out really solid (Server x64) * For AMD folk who have an AM2 MB, at least they don't have the issue of new chip, doesn't work that Nvidia users on Intel have.. this drops into damn near every AM2 board I've tried.. from a POS Biostar AM2 Via board w/AGP to a 790FX. So, that's a pro. * AMD needed a lot better performer then this. * This combines really well, though, with a 790FX and a 3870 as a really affordable but high end box. * Like the QX9650, runs surprisingly cool. I was really surprised, I expected a mini-oven, but definitely not. * Bundled fan though sucks, at least the few I've seen.. they have this warble in them like the fan is off-center which makes this noise. Replace with any generic fan and you're OK * If you already have an AM2 MB, this is a much, much cheaper route to just drop in this chip rather then replace everything. That's it, brief rundown :) I should post some pictures of some boxes sometime.
Re: [H] Looking for rack mountable case for HTPC
It's just blueray, and just a reader (though also a good DVDRW) but it's at the right price point.. sub $250. Hell, get a XBOX360 HDVD if you need and hack it.. cheaper then buying any of the actual drives or a combo of any sort.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 2:34 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Looking for rack mountable case for HTPC The BDC-202? Wasnt that the hyped up true combo that ended up just a boring BluRay? Why is everybody scared shitless to make a hybrid? Or at least one for less than $1K msrp
Re: [H] AGP video upgrade
I think you can find an ati 2900 that's agp, I'd have to check. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:42:53 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] AGP video upgrade I am doing a new build on a old box. This PC uses a ATI All in Wonder X800 which has been problematic for my setup. And since Paypal/Newegg is having a 20 percent off sale, I am thinking of getting rid of it, and getting a Nvidia AGP, with a Haupagee dual tuner PCI video card. What is the fastest Nivida AGP... a GeForce 7900GS? Will this drive a 30 inch monitor at 2560 x 1600? thanks
RE: [H] Memory Question
Responding to self, a link on how MS killed PAE in SP2 so if you've got 4GB.. you'll never see it. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2mempr.mspx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:52 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Memory Question Good link. Some of the talkback hits the nail on the head with regards to the fact that some things will not accept being pushed above the 4GB point, so it becomes moot. All of it is relegated to meaningless through a 64bit OS. -Original message- From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:41:32 -0600 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Memory Question At 08:02 PM 26/01/2007, rls wrote: I read somewhere that in order for XP to truly run flat out that you needed 4 gb of memory. I no longer have the reference, but would like to re- read like types of articles. More on RAM: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2006/08/14/699521.aspx T
RE: [H] Need CPU + Motherboard + RAM + ?? What's the BEST?
Just a few thoughts.. (1) Right now, you can score AMD X2 combos and builds cheap.. and very effective. The X2/3600+ a good board or a good build is easy to get hold of cheaply, and makes for a good build. It's not going to compare with a Core2Duo, but you're spending a hundred less. So there you go. (2) If you can go for the extra $$, go for a E6600. The E6300/E6400 are good performers.. but it's a big jump to the E6600 without a giant leap in price. And the E6600 is a great bang for the buck. (3) 680i chipsets may be the rage, but the 650i performs IDENTICALLY with one card, and even with two, in any benchmark I've tried, the difference is almost non-existant. So, going with a 650i gets you a board that (a) uses less power, thus makes less heat (b) saves you another $100, (c) is a lot less picky about RAM. If you really need uber-elite, the 680i is it. But if you're building on your own or if you want value, the 650i is probably it. (4) All AMD prices will shift crazily at the end of this week as the 6000+ ships, and AMD has a few other new chips coming out. AMD is also offering OEMs pretty aggressive deals if they combine AMD CPU + ATI(AMD) Chipset MBs. So, you may see some people bundle those together at good value. Just some thoughts. But, you can spend as you like ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jin-Wei Tioh Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:21 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Need CPU + Motherboard + RAM + ?? What's the BEST? At 01:33 AM 1/26/2007, you wrote: Biostar T-Force939 for my FX55. Maybe I should build another box. :-) That's a nice mobo. Got the wimpy 754 cousin coming in (GeForce 6100 M7) in trade for an ASUS K8N-4. Maybe. I find that rare CPUs hold their value well on eBay ;) -- JW
RE: [H] MP3 players...
I really like the zen. I spent today playing with a Zune. Ignore that POS. What garbage. I can't believe MS thinks this is an Ipod killer. My wife has an Ipod and loves it, I don't have anything negative about it. I guess it all depends on what you're after. I have one of the Zen Nanos, because 2GB was more then enough for what I was after. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: [H] MP3 players... Hey, I am looking to get myself an MP3 player for Christmas and was wondering what you all are using and the likes/dislikes of the model that you have. I think I will probably stay away from the Ipod. Currently, this is what I am interested in: http://tinyurl.com/yngznv http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Zen-Vision-Video-Player/dp/B000CS7U1C/sr=8- 1/ qid=1163443585/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6203142-7296031?ie=UTF8s=electronics Maybe even the 60GB version. Thanks for any inputs, Bobby
RE: [H] MP3 players...
That's the part that kills me about the Zune. It has a nice big screen, but it looks terrible (picture quality) I'm not sure what resolution they have on it, but it's significantly lower quality then any Ipod Video I've seen. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:46 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] MP3 players... I have a 60 GB Video iPod. While I like it just fine, it's way overkill for me. I'd been just fine with a 6 GB Nano and a shuttle (for working out and bike riding). The Video aspects of iPods just don't appeal to me. The Photo part does, however. I use my pods mainly for audiobooks these days. Chris Reeves wrote: :: I really like the zen. :: :: I spent today playing with a Zune. Ignore that POS. What garbage. :: I can't believe MS thinks this is an Ipod killer. My wife has an :: Ipod and loves it, I don't have anything negative about it. I guess :: it all depends on what you're after. I have one of the Zen Nanos, :: because 2GB was more then enough for what I was after. :: :: CW :: ::: -Original Message- ::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- ::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid ::: Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:51 PM ::: To: 'The Hardware List' ::: Subject: [H] MP3 players... ::: ::: Hey, ::: ::: I am looking to get myself an MP3 player for Christmas and was ::: wondering what you all are using and the likes/dislikes of the ::: model that you have. ::: ::: I think I will probably stay away from the Ipod. ::: ::: Currently, this is what I am interested in: ::: ::: http://tinyurl.com/yngznv ::: ::: http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Zen-Vision-Video-Player/dp/B000CS7U1C/sr=8- ::: 1/ ::: qid=1163443585/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6203142- 7296031?ie=UTF8s=electronics ::: ::: Maybe even the 60GB version. ::: ::: Thanks for any inputs, ::: Bobby
RE: [H] iMac arrived today...
You're comparing the wrong way. Apple at 6% equals OS/X at 5%, people running earlier (say OS9) at 1%.. Linux at 9%-10%, and MICROSOFT (not Dell, Gateway, etc.) at 80% or something crazy. Here's the thing: OS/X makes up such a small slice of the overall mindspace it's still a second-tier development for a great number of products. That's the issue. Nobody sits around and thinks how to develop a unique product for Dell or Gateway, they think about a product for Windows, OS/X, Linux. In that environment, 6% -is- an issue. It's not a matter of how many units a single company moves, which is doesn't matter, it's how wide a percentage their OS represents within the marketspace. Microsoft represents say, 80%. What does that mean? It means more developers pay them money to get MS Logos. More developers pay them for tool kits. It means more products get developed with MS development kits. It means MS has more, and far more lucrative, partner programs. I know of TWO apple developers locally who pay into Apple. I know of several hundred Windows developers in the metro who pay yearly fees to MS. That's the difference. You're comparing Apple to Dell. That's not an issue. I'm saying Apple to MSFT. And that's where I don't get Apple's philosophy. I've seen OS/X run on a standard Dell box straight from the development disc from Apple with just a PCI card to make it go OK. And there are tons of floating hacked versions on the net. The thing is, if Apple wanted to get off of it's our hardware is cool would be a hell of a lot more profitable if they opened up and allowed OS/X to go open. OS/X in an open, sellable format would get more adopters - which means more partner revenue for Apple, more developers, and a broader installed base to draw from. That's what apple needs. Right now is the perfect time in the grand scheme of things to do it. Apple will stick to their hardware plan. Good for them. And they can keep their 6% of the market, while Microsoft sticks with their 80%+. And people will piss and moan about what a monopoly MS has and how it's so bad, etc. etc. and how MS controls developers and software releases, etc. etc. etc. But remember this: MS has no competition in the marketspace not because it's impossible to compete with them, but because Apple, which has the means to, elects not to compete. And that, IMHO, is stupid. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:15 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... Compared to what? Dell? How big of a slice does Gateway have now? How big does HP/Compaq have? In the grand scheme of things, 6% is a LOT of units to move. Sure it doesn't compete with Dell, but we're not talking Systemax levels here, either. Thane Sherrington wrote: At 01:03 PM 02/10/2006, Ben Ruset wrote: 6% of the entire PC market is a pretty big slice. And it's getting bigger every day. 6% might be a lot of computers, but it's a very small slice. T
RE: [H] iMac arrived today...
I'll tell you this, the more time I spend with Vista, the more convinced I am that Apple is wrong. Not because Vista is great, but because if Apple would get off it's high horse and decide to be a software maker, it could sell immense volumes of OS/X for the PC market, and be an instant competitor. Apple's closed system is what f*( them, not Microsoft. I've played with OS/X 86 (legitimate, through a legitimate local developer) and the thing runs on virtually anything as long as I put the PCI card from them in. I've seen it run on AMD, old Dells, whatever. The thing works and runs smooth on most hardware, because at it's heart, it's linux type core still handles it. Which is what kills me about apple. They could have a significant slice of the overall PC market if they wanted it. Yes, I know they do well (6% of total market, which is not bad) but if OS/X were to be an option for any PC owner, they could capture a big slice of it as they'd have a lot more adopters of their product. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:50 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:45:52AM -0400, Chris Klein wrote: 1) The older G5s just weren't powerful enough to run some of our more demanding applications. We have since moved all of our high end applications over to Precision 690s. right, the new ones are core duo based or in the case of the g5, Dual Xeon. 2) One of our major problems is with Mac profiles. For instance Jane Doe gets married, and Jane's last name changes to Robinson. The Macs would shit themselves over the name change and everything would go haywire. Yeah lol. We still run them for the Viewmaster group. They have G5s, and 30 inch LCDs. Unf. -- Bryan G. Seitz
[H] Mandriva 2007
Genious. Sheer, plain genious. We're an early seeder, so I've had access to the final Distros for the last two days and we've been playing around with it. Let me tell you a few things that are worth noting: * The install was done on two PCs, one a Core 2 Duo on a 965P board (the Gigabyte). It recognized and correctly configured all devices, audio, video (a 7950GT) as well as set performance on SATA drives. It recognized a USB Wireless NIC and was able to do WPA to our router (something I've had significant difficulties with in Linux in the past). The second PC, an AMD 4400+ on the Asus A8N32-SLI correctly configured also, found all drivers out of the box and ran with no issues. * Xen support within it is fantastic. * New game based support under Transgamer allowed for fluid use of games like World of Warcraft and Civilization IV, the only two games we tried. It was indistinguishable from Windows XP as to their performance (IMHO), while I'm sure benchmarks may say different, I was impressed. * The new KDE interface is fluid and intuitive - far more so then MS Vista at this point, and the inbuilt features in the full version - like LinDVD (bundled from Intervideo) offered great features like passing AC3/DTS and decoding as well. I'm not saying that Mandriva 2007 is going to be my regular platform, but this is as close to a solid-consumer friendly desktop format of Linux ever. Period. This is a major leap over Mandriva 2006, and I think a lot of people will be seriously impressed with the feature set. The install is painless. The performance is excellent. Support for hardware is, frankly, better then Vista 5600/5728 at this point. On Monday, Mandriva will release the torrents to the Club members and shortly after that to the public. Let me say this: if you're a club member or if you are thinking about it, this is definitely a distro worth grabbing. CW (Here's hoping I see this post return to me, for some reason I still seem to be NO-ACK with the list since Sunday)
RE: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo?
Yep, he's referring to the fact it's not an Intel ICH8R SB. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:30 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? The DS3 has both, if I understand what you mean. It has 4 SATA connectors running on the ICH8 southbridge. Then it has 2 SATA connectors that can run in RAID mode and one PATA connector that run off the Jmicron controller. They're a different color, and off to the side a bit. I'm not currently using these at all. Did you mean that the RAID functioanlity is on the jmicron controller? If so, that's correct AFAIK. Scott On Sep 16, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Hayes Elkins wrote: What is the feedback on the P5B - Deluxe in regards to the 8 phase power design? Any real world benefit, overclocking, stability, etc? My only nix on the DS3 is that it uses (from what I can tell) a jmicron raid controller and not the ICH8R/ICH8DH/ICH8DO From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 02:29:56 + That imho is basically the perfect combo. The ds3 board is insanely solid and a great performer Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Scott Sipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:13:36 To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? I bought a Gigabyte board--965-DS3. E6400, ddr800 ram. I'm perfectly happy with it. I wasn't planning on getting SLI/ Crossfire or anything, so this board is fine for me. haven't tried overclocking yet, but people seem to have had some very good results. There's always kick-worthy stuff out there, but for now, I'm happy. Plus I managed to add support to the OpenDarwin (opensource OSX code) ATA driver for the 965 chipset, so get good speed there too. Scott On Sep 15, 2006, at 3:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current boards all have minor hiccups. I've seen the asus 570 intel board shown though its now about thanksgiving before people ship volume. But I think a lot of people will kick themselves if they wanted those features Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Christopher Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:11:15 To:'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? So what's the consensus. Should I buy now or hold off? I want to buy within the next month as I want to move my other machine over to a server role. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? Only a few P965 boards are out that have ICH8R, and Intel's retail branded P965 will not have it. Only ones in supply are the Asus and Abit. From: JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:15:49 -0700 How or why is that better than the P965 chipset? Are there differences other than onboard graphics on the G965 chipset? Get a G965 based motherboard (it has the integrated graphics which you wont be using of course). You have all the perks, including the latest intel fakeraid ICH8R and DDR2-800 support. The only thing you will not have is crossfire/sli support as there is only one PCIe x16 port. However a single ATI x1950xtx or NV 7950GX2 should be plenty powerful unless you intend to play Elder Scrolls Oblivion @ 2500x1600 on a 30 LCD. -- JRS[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
RE: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo?
Which, you have to admit, is one of the dumbest things imaginable to have a SB that doesn't have any PATA control. It -sounds- neat, but come on, how many SATA DVDRW drives are you seeing out there? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:30 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? The ICH8 is different than the raid varients. Those who chose not to license the R use the cheaper JMicron instead because it has two sata ports that can do raid and has a PATA port. (ICH8x does not support PATA at all). From: Scott Sipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:29:54 -0400 The DS3 has both, if I understand what you mean. It has 4 SATA connectors running on the ICH8 southbridge. Then it has 2 SATA connectors that can run in RAID mode and one PATA connector that run off the Jmicron controller. They're a different color, and off to the side a bit. I'm not currently using these at all. Did you mean that the RAID functioanlity is on the jmicron controller? If so, that's correct AFAIK. Scott On Sep 16, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Hayes Elkins wrote: What is the feedback on the P5B - Deluxe in regards to the 8 phase power design? Any real world benefit, overclocking, stability, etc? My only nix on the DS3 is that it uses (from what I can tell) a jmicron raid controller and not the ICH8R/ICH8DH/ICH8DO From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 02:29:56 + That imho is basically the perfect combo. The ds3 board is insanely solid and a great performer Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Scott Sipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:13:36 To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? I bought a Gigabyte board--965-DS3. E6400, ddr800 ram. I'm perfectly happy with it. I wasn't planning on getting SLI/ Crossfire or anything, so this board is fine for me. haven't tried overclocking yet, but people seem to have had some very good results. There's always kick-worthy stuff out there, but for now, I'm happy. Plus I managed to add support to the OpenDarwin (opensource OSX code) ATA driver for the 965 chipset, so get good speed there too. Scott On Sep 15, 2006, at 3:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current boards all have minor hiccups. I've seen the asus 570 intel board shown though its now about thanksgiving before people ship volume. But I think a lot of people will kick themselves if they wanted those features Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Christopher Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:11:15 To:'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? So what's the consensus. Should I buy now or hold off? I want to buy within the next month as I want to move my other machine over to a server role. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? Only a few P965 boards are out that have ICH8R, and Intel's retail branded P965 will not have it. Only ones in supply are the Asus and Abit. From: JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] New CL2 stepping for Core2 Duo? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:15:49 -0700 How or why is that better than the P965 chipset? Are there differences other than onboard graphics on the G965 chipset? Get a G965 based motherboard (it has the integrated graphics which you wont be using of course). You have all the perks, including the latest intel fakeraid ICH8R and DDR2-800 support. The only thing you will not have is crossfire/sli support as there is only one PCIe x16 port. However a single ATI x1950xtx or NV 7950GX2 should be plenty powerful unless you intend to play Elder Scrolls Oblivion @ 2500x1600 on a 30 LCD. -- JRS[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
[H] Figure Hayes will appreciate: ECS to start manufacturing Intel Brand Boards
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34341 Intel labeled boards have for some time been manufactured by FoxConn, etc. however, Intel is now contracting ECS to do future Intel branded MBs. CW
[H] Holy Smokes... HDMI capture card
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34318 This is EXACTLY what we need. If I could get HDMI capture of video, and control it under media center. oh, the yummy goodness :) CW
