Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-12 Thread joeuser
Yeah 2.2 TB & larger.
Yeah & 128 & 256 GB SSD's are all I can afford! lol
In fact, a new 256GB SSD is what spurred this whole thing to happen.
I googled for a few days, one search leading to another. Very
informative.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: DSinc 
> Date: Thu, July 10, 2014 9:29 am
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> 
> 
> JoeUser,
> Thanks for the share, but, your mention 2.2 and larger SSD's.
> What is your perspective? Are you talking Tera-Bytes?
> Understand the '64bitOS' share, but, most, if not all of the
> Collective is/has moved to 64bit.
> I am installing 128GB and 256GB SSD's. That is about as large as I
> can deal with (mentally) ATM.
> Yes, I do see how the 'old' *M*aster *B*oot *R*ecord, or the new *G*UI 
> *P*artition *T*able,
> wherever they physically live can easily get out of hand (dorked up!).
> Still confused!
> Thanks,
> Duncan


Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-10 Thread DSinc

JoeUser,
Thanks for the share, but, your mention 2.2 and larger SSD's.
What is your perspective? Are you talking Tera-Bytes?
Understand the '64bitOS' share, but, most, if not all of the
Collective is/has moved to 64bit.
I am installing 128GB and 256GB SSD's. That is about as large as I
can deal with (mentally) ATM.
Yes, I do see how the 'old' *M*aster *B*oot *R*ecord, or the new *G*UI 
*P*artition *T*able,

wherever they physically live can easily get out of hand (dorked up!).
Still confused!
Thanks,
Duncan

On 07/10/2014 09:09, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:

It'll be awhile before we can afford 2.2 & larger SSD's lol

GPT requires a 64 bit OS. My Win7 handled everything fine.
It's just a bit more involved than what we're used to be with MBR.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
From: DSinc 
Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 5:13 pm
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com


Greg,
Thanks for your knowledge. I will file this away for later.

Will simple tools appear in time so that we may know whether
our 'getting huge' EM drives and already huge SSD drives were
setup and/or formatted?
Best,
Duncan




Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-10 Thread joeuser
I just searched with google & read forums just like our list.
Maybe, it was a "freak" incident. Since it's my first & I read what I
read - I came to the conclusions I did.
I move disks all the time also. MBR's - this was my first GPT & this
"freak" incident happened.
Regardless, it may be worth take the minute to do the unmount/removal
before someone gets another "freak" incident. I certainly have spent
more than 1 minute with the aftermath!

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: "Greg Sevart" 
> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 10:52 am
> To: 
> 
> 
> I'm not at all suggesting that it didn't happen; I'm just making sure that 
> the rest of the collective knows that this is a freak incident and that it is 
> not a requirement to do anything special in disk management or otherwise when 
> moving a GPT disk. I've worked with a lot of GPT disks many different 
> hardware and operating system configurations--I'm quite certain I would have 
> run in to this if it were a common occurrence. The root cause for the 
> behavior you experienced is, at this point, a mystery.
> 
> If you have information from an official source prescribing that a GPT disk 
> be unmounted before powering down (if you're removing a disk live it should 
> always be removed cleanly, GPT or otherwise) and relocating, I'd be 
> interested to see it, as I've not yielded anything. 
>


Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-10 Thread joeuser
It'll be awhile before we can afford 2.2 & larger SSD's lol

GPT requires a 64 bit OS. My Win7 handled everything fine.
It's just a bit more involved than what we're used to be with MBR.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

> ---- Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: DSinc 
> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 5:13 pm
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> 
> 
> Greg,
> Thanks for your knowledge. I will file this away for later.
> 
> Will simple tools appear in time so that we may know whether
> our 'getting huge' EM drives and already huge SSD drives were
> setup and/or formatted?
> Best,
> Duncan


Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread DSinc

Greg,
Thanks for your knowledge. I will file this away for later.

Will simple tools appear in time so that we may know whether
our 'getting huge' EM drives and already huge SSD drives were
setup and/or formatted?
Best,
Duncan

On 07/09/2014 18:00, Greg Sevart wrote:

MBR can only be used as the partition table for disks not exceeding 2.2
trillion bytes in size (technically, it's a limit of 2^32 sectors, which is
2.2 trillion bytes using a standard 512/512e HDD). Once you cross that
boundary, you need to use a different form of partition table - the GUID
Partition Table. UEFI enters the picture because a UEFI system is required
to boot many operating systems--including Windows--from a disk using the GPT
layout.

I general, I recommend that disks under 2.2TB that are not expected to grow
to that size continue to use MBR for better compatibility. Switching to GPT
is a destructive process to any existing data, so it's a decision that is
best made when the drive is first initialized.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 4:44 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

Greg,
While I feel bad for @jjoeuser, I'm now curious about the diffs between MBR
drives and GPT drives.This thread shines light on something new based on
'EFI Bios.'
As I upgrage my PC's am I creating GPT drives If so, and they work,
Fine. Just wondering what I may be doing.
Thank you for your experience.
Duncan

On 07/09/2014 11:52, Greg Sevart wrote:

I'm not at all suggesting that it didn't happen; I'm just making sure that

the rest of the collective knows that this is a freak incident and that it
is not a requirement to do anything special in disk management or otherwise
when moving a GPT disk. I've worked with a lot of GPT disks many different
hardware and operating system configurations--I'm quite certain I would have
run in to this if it were a common occurrence. The root cause for the
behavior you experienced is, at this point, a mystery.

If you have information from an official source prescribing that a GPT

disk be unmounted before powering down (if you're removing a disk live it
should always be removed cleanly, GPT or otherwise) and relocating, I'd be
interested to see it, as I've not yielded anything.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On
Behalf Of joeu...@chronic.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:19 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

Well, I'm very glad for you, I'm also lucky in the fact that nothing there

was to critical and/or can be transferred again.

However, this did indeed happen. I also looked up the info as I have

described to everyone & that is a fact. The only other thing I can think of
is, I went from an internal sata port to a USB3 ext sata cable?

Regardless. If you have a GPT drive - UNMOUNT/REMOVE from DISK MGMT! If

you forget, DO NOTHING - plug it back in where it was & then
REMOVE/UNMOUNT... This may or may not apply to UEFI - I don't have UEFI & I
don't care to right now.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
From: "Greg Sevart" 
Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 9:42 am
To: 


I don't think that's it--I've moved UEFI to UEFI, BIOS to BIOS, and BIOS

to UEFI.











Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread Greg Sevart
MBR can only be used as the partition table for disks not exceeding 2.2
trillion bytes in size (technically, it's a limit of 2^32 sectors, which is
2.2 trillion bytes using a standard 512/512e HDD). Once you cross that
boundary, you need to use a different form of partition table - the GUID
Partition Table. UEFI enters the picture because a UEFI system is required
to boot many operating systems--including Windows--from a disk using the GPT
layout.

I general, I recommend that disks under 2.2TB that are not expected to grow
to that size continue to use MBR for better compatibility. Switching to GPT
is a destructive process to any existing data, so it's a decision that is
best made when the drive is first initialized.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 4:44 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

Greg,
While I feel bad for @jjoeuser, I'm now curious about the diffs between MBR
drives and GPT drives.This thread shines light on something new based on
'EFI Bios.'
As I upgrage my PC's am I creating GPT drives If so, and they work,
Fine. Just wondering what I may be doing.
Thank you for your experience.
Duncan

On 07/09/2014 11:52, Greg Sevart wrote:
> I'm not at all suggesting that it didn't happen; I'm just making sure that
the rest of the collective knows that this is a freak incident and that it
is not a requirement to do anything special in disk management or otherwise
when moving a GPT disk. I've worked with a lot of GPT disks many different
hardware and operating system configurations--I'm quite certain I would have
run in to this if it were a common occurrence. The root cause for the
behavior you experienced is, at this point, a mystery.
>
> If you have information from an official source prescribing that a GPT
disk be unmounted before powering down (if you're removing a disk live it
should always be removed cleanly, GPT or otherwise) and relocating, I'd be
interested to see it, as I've not yielded anything.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On 
> Behalf Of joeu...@chronic.org
> Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:19 AM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
>
> Well, I'm very glad for you, I'm also lucky in the fact that nothing there
was to critical and/or can be transferred again.
> However, this did indeed happen. I also looked up the info as I have
described to everyone & that is a fact. The only other thing I can think of
is, I went from an internal sata port to a USB3 ext sata cable?
>
> Regardless. If you have a GPT drive - UNMOUNT/REMOVE from DISK MGMT! If
you forget, DO NOTHING - plug it back in where it was & then
REMOVE/UNMOUNT... This may or may not apply to UEFI - I don't have UEFI & I
don't care to right now.
>
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
>> From: "Greg Sevart" 
>> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 9:42 am
>> To: 
>>
>>
>> I don't think that's it--I've moved UEFI to UEFI, BIOS to BIOS, and BIOS
to UEFI.
>>
>
>
>





Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread DSinc

Greg,
While I feel bad for @jjoeuser, I'm now curious about the diffs between 
MBR drives and GPT drives.This thread shines light on

something new based on 'EFI Bios.'
As I upgrage my PC's am I creating GPT drives If so, and they work, 
Fine. Just wondering what I may be doing.

Thank you for your experience.
Duncan

On 07/09/2014 11:52, Greg Sevart wrote:

I'm not at all suggesting that it didn't happen; I'm just making sure that the 
rest of the collective knows that this is a freak incident and that it is not a 
requirement to do anything special in disk management or otherwise when moving 
a GPT disk. I've worked with a lot of GPT disks many different hardware and 
operating system configurations--I'm quite certain I would have run in to this 
if it were a common occurrence. The root cause for the behavior you experienced 
is, at this point, a mystery.

If you have information from an official source prescribing that a GPT disk be 
unmounted before powering down (if you're removing a disk live it should always 
be removed cleanly, GPT or otherwise) and relocating, I'd be interested to see 
it, as I've not yielded anything.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
joeu...@chronic.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:19 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

Well, I'm very glad for you, I'm also lucky in the fact that nothing there was 
to critical and/or can be transferred again.
However, this did indeed happen. I also looked up the info as I have described to 
everyone & that is a fact. The only other thing I can think of is, I went from 
an internal sata port to a USB3 ext sata cable?

Regardless. If you have a GPT drive - UNMOUNT/REMOVE from DISK MGMT! If you forget, DO 
NOTHING - plug it back in where it was & then REMOVE/UNMOUNT... This may or may not 
apply to UEFI - I don't have UEFI & I don't care to right now.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
From: "Greg Sevart" 
Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 9:42 am
To: 


I don't think that's it--I've moved UEFI to UEFI, BIOS to BIOS, and BIOS to 
UEFI.









Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread Greg Sevart
I'm not at all suggesting that it didn't happen; I'm just making sure that the 
rest of the collective knows that this is a freak incident and that it is not a 
requirement to do anything special in disk management or otherwise when moving 
a GPT disk. I've worked with a lot of GPT disks many different hardware and 
operating system configurations--I'm quite certain I would have run in to this 
if it were a common occurrence. The root cause for the behavior you experienced 
is, at this point, a mystery.

If you have information from an official source prescribing that a GPT disk be 
unmounted before powering down (if you're removing a disk live it should always 
be removed cleanly, GPT or otherwise) and relocating, I'd be interested to see 
it, as I've not yielded anything. 

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
joeu...@chronic.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:19 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

Well, I'm very glad for you, I'm also lucky in the fact that nothing there was 
to critical and/or can be transferred again.
However, this did indeed happen. I also looked up the info as I have described 
to everyone & that is a fact. The only other thing I can think of is, I went 
from an internal sata port to a USB3 ext sata cable?

Regardless. If you have a GPT drive - UNMOUNT/REMOVE from DISK MGMT! If you 
forget, DO NOTHING - plug it back in where it was & then REMOVE/UNMOUNT... This 
may or may not apply to UEFI - I don't have UEFI & I don't care to right now.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: "Greg Sevart" 
> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 9:42 am
> To: 
> 
> 
> I don't think that's it--I've moved UEFI to UEFI, BIOS to BIOS, and BIOS to 
> UEFI.
> 





Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread joeuser
Thanks for the advice on the recovery utility. From my searching, it
sounds like it's more trouble than it's worth for me. Nothing critical
was lost & the data can be backed up again. Just glad I learned my
lesson when I did.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: "Greg Sevart" 
> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 9:45 am
> To: 
> 
> 
> When you told Windows to re-initialize it using GPT after the move, you wrote 
> a new partition table on the disk. That's when you lost your data. The good 
> news is that it should be recoverable using a GPT-compatible data recovery 
> utility. There isn't anything that keys a disk to a particular port.


Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread joeuser
Well, I'm very glad for you, I'm also lucky in the fact that nothing
there was to critical and/or can be transferred again.
However, this did indeed happen. I also looked up the info as I have
described to everyone & that is a fact. The only other thing I can think
of is, I went from an internal sata port to a USB3 ext sata cable?

Regardless. If you have a GPT drive - UNMOUNT/REMOVE from DISK MGMT! If
you forget, DO NOTHING - plug it back in where it was & then
REMOVE/UNMOUNT... This may or may not apply to UEFI - I don't have UEFI
& I don't care to right now.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: "Greg Sevart" 
> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 9:42 am
> To: 
> 
> 
> I don't think that's it--I've moved UEFI to UEFI, BIOS to BIOS, and BIOS to 
> UEFI.
> 



Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread joeuser
As I guessed, I screwed the pooch. I went wrong as soon as I told
Windows to apply GPT again.
From what I gathered. I should have stopped - put the drive back where
it was, removed/unmounted & then proceeded along.


Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: Thane Sherrington 
> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 9:33 am
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> 
>  
> Ok, cool.  Very good info.  Please keep us posted on how it goes.
> 
> T


Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread joeuser
Then why did it ask the first time?


Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: "Greg Sevart" 
> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 9:45 am
> To: 
> 
> 
> When you told Windows to re-initialize it using GPT after the move, you wrote 
> a new partition table on the disk. That's when you lost your data. The good 
> news is that it should be recoverable using a GPT-compatible data recovery 
> utility. There isn't anything that keys a disk to a particular port.



Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread Greg Sevart
When you told Windows to re-initialize it using GPT after the move, you wrote a 
new partition table on the disk. That's when you lost your data. The good news 
is that it should be recoverable using a GPT-compatible data recovery utility. 
There isn't anything that keys a disk to a particular port.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
joeu...@chronic.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:14 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

T - That's because I didn't unmount it first. I just pulled the drive and then 
hooked it up to an external USB3 SATA cable. I should have unmounted/removed it 
from Disk Mgmt snap in first. If I had, I'd be fine. Since I hadn't... It might 
be toast. I'm going to hook it back up today - to the original cable & see just 
how bad I screwed the pooch. My understanding is the drive gets "keyed" to the 
position on the SATA ports, basically.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."


>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: "Anthony Q. Martin" 
> Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 9:20 am
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> 
> 
> Thanks for this. I have a box full of GPT drivesI was wondering 
> what I'd do if I needed to upgrade the host mobo...as it is starting 
> to get old.  As all I have are mkv rips from my blu-ray collection, 
> this would be a LOT of work to do over. So one day I just want to move 
> the drives over to a new box.
> 



>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: Thane Sherrington 
> Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 9:47 am
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> 
> 
> Hi Joeuser,
>  Thanks for the update.  So if you have a GPT disk, you go 
> into diskmgmt.msc and unmount it?  I thought you said that Windows 7 
> couldn't see it at all?
> 
> T




Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread Greg Sevart
I don't think that's it--I've moved UEFI to UEFI, BIOS to BIOS, and BIOS to 
UEFI.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
joeu...@chronic.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:15 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

I'm guessing its the difference of you having UEFI bios & me, not having UEFI?
GPT & UEFI seems to go together like peas & carrots...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: "Greg Sevart" 
> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 12:12 am
> To: 
> 
> 
> I've never experienced what the OP describes, despite working with a fairly 
> large number of GPT disks with my large arrays and moving them between OS 
> installations. I'm pretty sure there's something else going on here. 
> Excepting being mindful of OS (and utility) support, GPT does not require any 
> special handling compared to MBR.
> 





Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 11:13 AM 09/07/2014, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:
T - That's because I didn't unmount it first. I just pulled the 
drive and then hooked it up to an external USB3 SATA cable. I should 
have unmounted/removed it from Disk Mgmt snap in first. If I had, 
I'd be fine. Since I hadn't... It might be toast. I'm going to hook 
it back up today - to the original cable & see just how bad I 
screwed the pooch. My understanding is the drive gets "keyed" to the 
position on the SATA ports, basically. Regards, joeuser - Still 
looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a 
beautiful line..." > 


Ok, cool.  Very good info.  Please keep us posted on how it goes.

T 






Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread joeuser
I'm guessing its the difference of you having UEFI bios & me, not having
UEFI?
GPT & UEFI seems to go together like peas & carrots...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: "Greg Sevart" 
> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 12:12 am
> To: 
> 
> 
> I've never experienced what the OP describes, despite working with a fairly 
> large number of GPT disks with my large arrays and moving them between OS 
> installations. I'm pretty sure there's something else going on here. 
> Excepting being mindful of OS (and utility) support, GPT does not require any 
> special handling compared to MBR.
> 



Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread joeuser
T - That's because I didn't unmount it first. I just pulled the drive
and then hooked it up to an external USB3 SATA cable. I should have
unmounted/removed it from Disk Mgmt snap in first. If I had, I'd be
fine. Since I hadn't... It might be toast. I'm going to hook it back up
today - to the original cable & see just how bad I screwed the pooch. My
understanding is the drive gets "keyed" to the position on the SATA
ports, basically.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."


> ---- Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: "Anthony Q. Martin" 
> Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 9:20 am
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> 
> 
> Thanks for this. I have a box full of GPT drivesI was wondering what 
> I'd do if I needed to upgrade the host mobo...as it is starting to get 
> old.  As all I have are mkv rips from my blu-ray collection, this would 
> be a LOT of work to do over. So one day I just want to move the drives 
> over to a new box.
> 



>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: Thane Sherrington 
> Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 9:47 am
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> 
> 
> Hi Joeuser,
>  Thanks for the update.  So if you have a GPT disk, you go 
> into diskmgmt.msc and unmount it?  I thought you said that Windows 7 
> couldn't see it at all?
> 
> T


Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-09 Thread joeuser
Not sure either but I do know GPT is mainly used for >2GB
I did see some stuff on converting GPT to MBR but I didn't follow it.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: FORC5 
> Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 9:10 am
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> 
> 
> one of my SSD's are listed as GPT, NO idea how this happened. Only 
> used for storage. There two identical, only is listed GPT when I run Diskpart
> Thought about trying to get rid of that, not sure why. They are only 
> 250gb drives.
> no harm I suppose, just no idea where the gpt came from.
> fp


Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread Greg Sevart
I've never experienced what the OP describes, despite working with a fairly 
large number of GPT disks with my large arrays and moving them between OS 
installations. I'm pretty sure there's something else going on here. Excepting 
being mindful of OS (and utility) support, GPT does not require any special 
handling compared to MBR.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
Thane Sherrington
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:48 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

At 10:14 AM 08/07/2014, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:
>OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I 
>thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same mistake 
>you'll know what to do. I guess GPT disks need to be unmounted or 
>removed from disk mgmt & then there will be no issues at all. I don't 
>know this for certain but someday I'll have the chance to check this 
>out. However, if you didn't know any better, like me, the best course 
>of advice is to just reattach the drive where it was & go from there. 
>Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH you guys. Regards,

Hi Joeuser,
 Thanks for the update.  So if you have a GPT disk, you go into 
diskmgmt.msc and unmount it?  I thought you said that Windows 7 couldn't see it 
at all?

T 







Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 10:14 AM 08/07/2014, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:
OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I 
thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same 
mistake you'll know what to do. I guess GPT disks need to be 
unmounted or removed from disk mgmt & then there will be no issues 
at all. I don't know this for certain but someday I'll have the 
chance to check this out. However, if you didn't know any better, 
like me, the best course of advice is to just reattach the drive 
where it was & go from there. Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH 
you guys. Regards,


Hi Joeuser,
Thanks for the update.  So if you have a GPT disk, you go 
into diskmgmt.msc and unmount it?  I thought you said that Windows 7 
couldn't see it at all?


T 






Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thanks for this. I have a box full of GPT drivesI was wondering what 
I'd do if I needed to upgrade the host mobo...as it is starting to get 
old.  As all I have are mkv rips from my blu-ray collection, this would 
be a LOT of work to do over. So one day I just want to move the drives 
over to a new box.


On 7/8/2014 9:14 AM, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:

OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I
thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same mistake
you'll know what to do.

I guess GPT disks need to be unmounted or removed from disk mgmt & then
there will be no issues at all. I don't know this for certain but
someday I'll have the chance to check this out.

However, if you didn't know any better, like me, the best course of
advice is to just reattach the drive where it was & go from there.

Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH you guys.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."


---- Original Message 
Subject: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
From: 
Date: Sun, July 06, 2014 3:08 am
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com


Have a 3TB disk I installed in my Win7 box. Planned to backup a bunch of
stuff & pull the drive for safe keeping. I used GPT as it has the 3TB
support. I pulled drive then put it on a SATA to USB 3 cable to read the
drive. Win7 acted like it never saw it. I opened disk management & it
asked me if I wanted MBR or GPT... I picked GPT & now it wants to format
the drive... WTF did I do?! GPT is foreign to me & Google searching is
making me panic with results! I stopped after selecting GPT, again - I
did not format...


Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."




Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread FORC5
one of my SSD's are listed as GPT, NO idea how this happened. Only 
used for storage. There two identical, only is listed GPT when I run Diskpart
Thought about trying to get rid of that, not sure why. They are only 
250gb drives.

no harm I suppose, just no idea where the gpt came from.
fp

At 06:14 AM 7/8/2014, joeu...@chronic.org Poked the stick with:
OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I 
thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same 
mistake you'll know what to do. I guess GPT disks need to be 
unmounted or removed from disk mgmt & then there will be no issues 
at all. I don't know this for certain but someday I'll have the 
chance to check this out. However, if you didn't know any better, 
like me, the best course of advice is to just reattach the drive 
where it was & go from there. Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH 
you guys. Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... 
"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > ---- 
Original Message  > Subject: [H] GPT_disk_moving?! > From: 
 > Date: Sun, July 06, 2014 3:08 am > To: 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > > Have a 3TB disk I installed in my 
Win7 box. Planned to backup a bunch of > stuff & pull the drive for 
safe keeping. I used GPT as it has the 3TB > support. I pulled drive 
then put it on a SATA to USB 3 cable to read the > drive. Win7 acted 
like it never saw it. I opened disk management & it > asked me if I 
wanted MBR or GPT... I picked GPT & now it wants to format > the 
drive... WTF did I do?! GPT is foreign to me & Google searching is > 
making me panic with results! I stopped after selecting GPT, again - 
I > did not format... > > > Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for 
the 'any' key... > > "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."


Date:  Tuesday, July 8th, 2014

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Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread joeuser
OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I
thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same mistake
you'll know what to do.

I guess GPT disks need to be unmounted or removed from disk mgmt & then
there will be no issues at all. I don't know this for certain but
someday I'll have the chance to check this out.

However, if you didn't know any better, like me, the best course of
advice is to just reattach the drive where it was & go from there.

Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH you guys. 

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

> ---- Original Message 
> Subject: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: 
> Date: Sun, July 06, 2014 3:08 am
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> 
> 
> Have a 3TB disk I installed in my Win7 box. Planned to backup a bunch of
> stuff & pull the drive for safe keeping. I used GPT as it has the 3TB
> support. I pulled drive then put it on a SATA to USB 3 cable to read the
> drive. Win7 acted like it never saw it. I opened disk management & it
> asked me if I wanted MBR or GPT... I picked GPT & now it wants to format
> the drive... WTF did I do?! GPT is foreign to me & Google searching is
> making me panic with results! I stopped after selecting GPT, again - I
> did not format...
> 
> 
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> 
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."