Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-06-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
That's too bad...first off, I ignore the 100mbps stuff...that's never 
what you get...IME, anyway.

Have you tried using different wall sockets yet?

Note that I have the AV unit, 4 ports on one end and one port to connect 
to your router on the other.


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002FB684E

I'm thinking about getting one for travel too...my mom's wireless won't 
reach across her house...but this might...


On 6/25/2010 11:36 AM, Francisco Tapia wrote:

ok... I've performed several tests, but I don't think I'm getting the
advertised speed here... I downloaded Netgear's utility tool and it tells me
that my two XAV2001 adapters are running at 100+mbps  on average the one
upstairs in the office shows up conssitently at about 110 to 120mbps while
the one downstairs fluctuates depending if the washer and dryer are
running.  If the appliances are offline it reports up to 150mbps, but if
they are online it will be much lower like 80mbps.

however, a 1gb file takes about 10 min to transfer at a rate of about
2.2MB/s which is faster than what my 802.11n was transferring at which used
to peak at 1.7MB/s but consistently only put out about 1.2MB/s so I am
getting a good boost but just thought I'd see a much faster performance like
yours... a 4.7gb file took exactly 1hr to transfer no matter how many times
I repeated the test.  I tried downloading to the main disk, tried to copy it
to a usb drive, the result is the same... 1hr for 4.7 which again is faster
than what I'm used to it used to take well into 2hrs (sometimes more) with
wifi 802.11n (2.4ghz).

I am happy i can get some more speed, but just soured out that I didn't get
as much as I thought I'd get.


-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
http://bit.ly/sqlthis


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Francisco Tapia  wrote:

   

That is really cool.. I stopped by Fry's after reading your post and can't
wait to plug these suckers in... I'll report back this afternoon with my
results on these guys...I did see that Fry's also carries the Powerline HD
which is supposed to be 200mbs also but i thought I'd stick with the AV as
that is what is currently reported as quality, consistent results.

thanks for the feedback.


-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
http://bit.ly/sqlthis



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Anthony Q. Martinwrote:

 

I am very pleased with the current Powerline AV stuff. I can move an 11 GB
file from upstairs, at one end of a 60-ft long house, to downstairs at the
other end, in about 35 minutes.  I've been testing this for days and days,
both day and night, now with the same results.  So, with a dual band router,
I have some stuff at 2.4 GHz, some at 5 GHz, some wired at 1000mbps, and
then powerline at 100 mbps.  I think the powerline is more consistent
through walls and distance than wireless will ever be. My house was built in
1988, too.


On 6/17/2010 1:15 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote:

   

That is really cool.  I have a need to extend my network and I have too
many
802.11g items that my 802.11n router just steps down... what times are
you
seeing for transferring 2 - 4 gb files?



-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...




On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Q. Martin 

wrote:
   



 

Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but
still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.

Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the
PL
adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other
piece
(I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now I have
the
laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the
wireless
signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps
network
(what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files).

Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at
92
Mbps.

So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.

I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to
get
that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.


On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:



   

I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently
glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.

lopaka




____________
From: Anthony Q. Martin
To: The Hardware List
Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that
perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could
connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a
special
adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or
something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  From som

Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-06-25 Thread Francisco Tapia
ok... I've performed several tests, but I don't think I'm getting the
advertised speed here... I downloaded Netgear's utility tool and it tells me
that my two XAV2001 adapters are running at 100+mbps  on average the one
upstairs in the office shows up conssitently at about 110 to 120mbps while
the one downstairs fluctuates depending if the washer and dryer are
running.  If the appliances are offline it reports up to 150mbps, but if
they are online it will be much lower like 80mbps.

however, a 1gb file takes about 10 min to transfer at a rate of about
2.2MB/s which is faster than what my 802.11n was transferring at which used
to peak at 1.7MB/s but consistently only put out about 1.2MB/s so I am
getting a good boost but just thought I'd see a much faster performance like
yours... a 4.7gb file took exactly 1hr to transfer no matter how many times
I repeated the test.  I tried downloading to the main disk, tried to copy it
to a usb drive, the result is the same... 1hr for 4.7 which again is faster
than what I'm used to it used to take well into 2hrs (sometimes more) with
wifi 802.11n (2.4ghz).

I am happy i can get some more speed, but just soured out that I didn't get
as much as I thought I'd get.


-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
http://bit.ly/sqlthis


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Francisco Tapia  wrote:

> That is really cool.. I stopped by Fry's after reading your post and can't
> wait to plug these suckers in... I'll report back this afternoon with my
> results on these guys...I did see that Fry's also carries the Powerline HD
> which is supposed to be 200mbs also but i thought I'd stick with the AV as
> that is what is currently reported as quality, consistent results.
>
> thanks for the feedback.
>
>
> -Francisco
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> http://bit.ly/sqlthis
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Anthony Q. Martin 
> wrote:
>
>> I am very pleased with the current Powerline AV stuff. I can move an 11 GB
>> file from upstairs, at one end of a 60-ft long house, to downstairs at the
>> other end, in about 35 minutes.  I've been testing this for days and days,
>> both day and night, now with the same results.  So, with a dual band router,
>> I have some stuff at 2.4 GHz, some at 5 GHz, some wired at 1000mbps, and
>> then powerline at 100 mbps.  I think the powerline is more consistent
>> through walls and distance than wireless will ever be. My house was built in
>> 1988, too.
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2010 1:15 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote:
>>
>>> That is really cool.  I have a need to extend my network and I have too
>>> many
>>> 802.11g items that my 802.11n router just steps down... what times are
>>> you
>>> seeing for transferring 2 - 4 gb files?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Francisco
>>> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Q. Martin>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but
>>>> still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.
>>>>
>>>> Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the
>>>> PL
>>>> adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other
>>>> piece
>>>> (I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now I have
>>>> the
>>>> laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the
>>>> wireless
>>>> signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps
>>>> network
>>>> (what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files).
>>>>
>>>> Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at
>>>> 92
>>>> Mbps.
>>>>
>>>> So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.
>>>>
>>>> I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to
>>>> get
>>>> that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently
>>>>> glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> lopaka
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-06-17 Thread tmservo
It just means full duplex.  Marketting

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-Original Message-
From: "Anthony Q. Martin" 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:03:19 
To: 
Subject: Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

mine says 200 mbps too...however, you only get 100 mbps.  I'm not sure 
why that is.

On 6/17/2010 4:56 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote:
> That is really cool.. I stopped by Fry's after reading your post and can't
> wait to plug these suckers in... I'll report back this afternoon with my
> results on these guys...I did see that Fry's also carries the Powerline HD
> which is supposed to be 200mbs also but i thought I'd stick with the AV as
> that is what is currently reported as quality, consistent results.
>
> thanks for the feedback.
>
> -Francisco
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> http://bit.ly/sqlthis
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Anthony Q. Martinwrote:
>
>
>> I am very pleased with the current Powerline AV stuff. I can move an 11 GB
>> file from upstairs, at one end of a 60-ft long house, to downstairs at the
>> other end, in about 35 minutes.  I've been testing this for days and days,
>> both day and night, now with the same results.  So, with a dual band router,
>> I have some stuff at 2.4 GHz, some at 5 GHz, some wired at 1000mbps, and
>> then powerline at 100 mbps.  I think the powerline is more consistent
>> through walls and distance than wireless will ever be. My house was built in
>> 1988, too.
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2010 1:15 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> That is really cool.  I have a need to extend my network and I have too
>>> many
>>> 802.11g items that my 802.11n router just steps down... what times are you
>>> seeing for transferring 2 - 4 gb files?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Francisco
>>> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Q. Martin>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but
>>>> still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.
>>>>
>>>> Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the
>>>> PL
>>>> adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other
>>>> piece
>>>> (I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now I have
>>>> the
>>>> laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the wireless
>>>> signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps
>>>> network
>>>> (what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files).
>>>>
>>>> Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at
>>>> 92
>>>> Mbps.
>>>>
>>>> So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.
>>>>
>>>> I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to
>>>> get
>>>> that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently
>>>>> glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> lopaka
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Anthony Q. Martin
>>>>> To: The Hardware List
>>>>> Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that
>>>>> perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could
>>>>> connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a
>>>>> special
>>>>> adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or
>>>>> something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  From some
>>>>> reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is best,
>>>>> followed
>>>>> by a powerline connect, and then a wireles

Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-06-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
mine says 200 mbps too...however, you only get 100 mbps.  I'm not sure 
why that is.


On 6/17/2010 4:56 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote:

That is really cool.. I stopped by Fry's after reading your post and can't
wait to plug these suckers in... I'll report back this afternoon with my
results on these guys...I did see that Fry's also carries the Powerline HD
which is supposed to be 200mbs also but i thought I'd stick with the AV as
that is what is currently reported as quality, consistent results.

thanks for the feedback.

-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
http://bit.ly/sqlthis


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Anthony Q. Martinwrote:

   

I am very pleased with the current Powerline AV stuff. I can move an 11 GB
file from upstairs, at one end of a 60-ft long house, to downstairs at the
other end, in about 35 minutes.  I've been testing this for days and days,
both day and night, now with the same results.  So, with a dual band router,
I have some stuff at 2.4 GHz, some at 5 GHz, some wired at 1000mbps, and
then powerline at 100 mbps.  I think the powerline is more consistent
through walls and distance than wireless will ever be. My house was built in
1988, too.


On 6/17/2010 1:15 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote:

 

That is really cool.  I have a need to extend my network and I have too
many
802.11g items that my 802.11n router just steps down... what times are you
seeing for transferring 2 - 4 gb files?



-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...




On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Q. Martin   

wrote:
 



   

Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but
still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.

Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the
PL
adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other
piece
(I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now I have
the
laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the wireless
signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps
network
(what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files).

Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at
92
Mbps.

So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.

I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to
get
that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.


On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:



 

I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently
glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin
To: The Hardware List
Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that
perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could
connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a
special
adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or
something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  From some
reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is best,
followed
by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. Is that true?  I
live in a two story house, so one wondering if the wiring is truly
connected
between the levels.

Anyone played with one?

I guess I can be the tester...


-

So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.

I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.

Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.

But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?
  Are the backward compaticable?

Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use
802.11n on its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days
802.11n ready?

I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and
neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think
it's
not there.

If it is there, which router is best?



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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-06-17 Thread Francisco Tapia
That is really cool.. I stopped by Fry's after reading your post and can't
wait to plug these suckers in... I'll report back this afternoon with my
results on these guys...I did see that Fry's also carries the Powerline HD
which is supposed to be 200mbs also but i thought I'd stick with the AV as
that is what is currently reported as quality, consistent results.

thanks for the feedback.

-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
http://bit.ly/sqlthis


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

> I am very pleased with the current Powerline AV stuff. I can move an 11 GB
> file from upstairs, at one end of a 60-ft long house, to downstairs at the
> other end, in about 35 minutes.  I've been testing this for days and days,
> both day and night, now with the same results.  So, with a dual band router,
> I have some stuff at 2.4 GHz, some at 5 GHz, some wired at 1000mbps, and
> then powerline at 100 mbps.  I think the powerline is more consistent
> through walls and distance than wireless will ever be. My house was built in
> 1988, too.
>
>
> On 6/17/2010 1:15 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote:
>
>> That is really cool.  I have a need to extend my network and I have too
>> many
>> 802.11g items that my 802.11n router just steps down... what times are you
>> seeing for transferring 2 - 4 gb files?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Francisco
>> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Q. Martin> >wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but
>>> still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.
>>>
>>> Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the
>>> PL
>>> adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other
>>> piece
>>> (I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now I have
>>> the
>>> laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the wireless
>>> signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps
>>> network
>>> (what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files).
>>>
>>> Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at
>>> 92
>>> Mbps.
>>>
>>> So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.
>>>
>>> I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to
>>> get
>>> that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently
>>>> glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> lopaka
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: Anthony Q. Martin
>>>> To: The Hardware List
>>>> Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
>>>> Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)
>>>>
>>>> Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that
>>>> perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could
>>>> connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a
>>>> special
>>>> adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or
>>>> something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  From some
>>>> reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is best,
>>>> followed
>>>> by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. Is that true?  I
>>>> live in a two story house, so one wondering if the wiring is truly
>>>> connected
>>>> between the levels.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone played with one?
>>>>
>>>> I guess I can be the tester...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.
>>>>
>>>> I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.
>>>>
>>>> Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.
>>>>
>>>> But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?
>>>>  Are the backward compaticable?
>>>>
>>>> Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use
>>>> 802.11n on its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days
>>>> 802.11n ready?
>>>>
>>>> I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and
>>>> neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think
>>>> it's
>>>> not there.
>>>>
>>>> If it is there, which router is best?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-06-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I am very pleased with the current Powerline AV stuff. I can move an 11 
GB file from upstairs, at one end of a 60-ft long house, to downstairs 
at the other end, in about 35 minutes.  I've been testing this for days 
and days, both day and night, now with the same results.  So, with a 
dual band router, I have some stuff at 2.4 GHz, some at 5 GHz, some 
wired at 1000mbps, and then powerline at 100 mbps.  I think the 
powerline is more consistent through walls and distance than wireless 
will ever be. My house was built in 1988, too.


On 6/17/2010 1:15 PM, Francisco Tapia wrote:

That is really cool.  I have a need to extend my network and I have too many
802.11g items that my 802.11n router just steps down... what times are you
seeing for transferring 2 - 4 gb files?



-Francisco
http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...




On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Q. Martinwrote:

   

Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but
still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.

Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the PL
adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other piece
(I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now I have the
laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the wireless
signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps network
(what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files).

Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at 92
Mbps.

So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.

I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to get
that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.


On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

 

I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently
glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin
To: The Hardware List
Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that
perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could
connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a special
adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or
something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  From some
reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is best, followed
by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. Is that true?  I
live in a two story house, so one wondering if the wiring is truly connected
between the levels.

Anyone played with one?

I guess I can be the tester...


-

So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.

I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.

Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.

But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?
  Are the backward compaticable?

Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use
802.11n on its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days
802.11n ready?

I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and
neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think it's
not there.

If it is there, which router is best?



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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-06-17 Thread Francisco Tapia
That is really cool.  I have a need to extend my network and I have too many
802.11g items that my 802.11n router just steps down... what times are you
seeing for transferring 2 - 4 gb files?



-Francisco
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

> Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but
> still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.
>
> Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the PL
> adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other piece
> (I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now I have the
> laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the wireless
> signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps network
> (what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files).
>
> Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at 92
> Mbps.
>
> So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.
>
> I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to get
> that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.
>
>
> On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>
>> I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently
>> glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.
>>
>> lopaka
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________
>> From: Anthony Q. Martin
>> To: The Hardware List
>> Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
>> Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)
>>
>> Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that
>> perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could
>> connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a special
>> adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or
>> something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  From some
>> reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is best, followed
>> by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. Is that true?  I
>> live in a two story house, so one wondering if the wiring is truly connected
>> between the levels.
>>
>> Anyone played with one?
>>
>> I guess I can be the tester...
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.
>>
>> I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.
>>
>> Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.
>>
>> But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?
>>  Are the backward compaticable?
>>
>> Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use
>> 802.11n on its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days
>> 802.11n ready?
>>
>> I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and
>> neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think it's
>> not there.
>>
>> If it is there, which router is best?
>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/10/10
>> 02:26:00
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-12 Thread FORC5

thanks
helps
fp

At 07:18 AM 5/12/2010, Naushad, Zulfiqar Poked the stick with:
>My brother in law uses Netgear HD ones, and they work perfectly for
>streaming 1080p MKV movies.
>
>My dad uses it in his computer room since the wifi router's signal there
>is 1 bar or no bars (i.e. flaky)
>
>I personally would not use them since I need raw speed, but my Wireless
>N access point works great for streaming 1080p content to my media
>player.
>
>The only problem is that seeking is a bit slow, but not to the point of
>pulling out my hair.
>
>
> 
>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
>http://www.eset.com

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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-12 Thread Naushad, Zulfiqar
My brother in law uses Netgear HD ones, and they work perfectly for
streaming 1080p MKV movies.

My dad uses it in his computer room since the wifi router's signal there
is 1 bar or no bars (i.e. flaky)

I personally would not use them since I need raw speed, but my Wireless
N access point works great for streaming 1080p content to my media
player.

The only problem is that seeking is a bit slow, but not to the point of
pulling out my hair.


 

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:13 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

really curious about these units, other then a wify adapter only way to
connect my blueray to the network but I am wondering can multiple
outlets be used with only one connected to the router ? Like one at the
router, one at the tv and one in my shop ( currently on a bridge, WAN
works great, LAN is poky) That would seem like a conflict ur are the
matched and I would need two at the router.
interesting technology, really curious how this works.
Fred

At 02:12 PM 5/11/2010, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with:
>Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but
still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.
>
>Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in
the PL adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the
other piece (I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So
right now I have the laptop at the other end of the house (one level
down), where the wireless signal barely makes it. But on the powerline
system I got 100 Mbps network (what's reported) and I am transfering
files at 45 Mbps (big files).
>
>Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at
92 Mbps.
>
>So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew
that.
>
>I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to
get that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.
>
>On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>>I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently
glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.
>>
>>lopaka
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>____
>>From: Anthony Q. Martin
>>To: The Hardware List
>>Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
>>Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)
>>
>>Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that
perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could
connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a
special adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an
XBox or something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.
>From some reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is
best, followed by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection.
Is that true?  I live in a two story house, so one wondering if the
wiring is truly connected between the levels.
>>
>>Anyone played with one?
>>
>>I guess I can be the tester...
>>
>>
>>-
>>
>>So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.
>>
>>I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.
>>
>>Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.
>>
>>But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?
Are the backward compaticable?
>>
>>Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use
802.11n on its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days
802.11n ready?
>>
>>I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and
neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think
it's not there.
>>
>>If it is there, which router is best?
>>
>>
>>
>>No virus found in this incoming message.
>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date:
05/10/10 02:26:00
>>
>>   
>
>__ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
signature database 5106 (20100511) __
>
>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
>http://www.eset.com
>
>

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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-12 Thread FORC5
really curious about these units, other then a wify adapter only way to connect 
my blueray to the network but I am wondering can multiple outlets be used with 
only one connected to the router ? Like one at the router, one at the tv and 
one in my shop ( currently on a bridge, WAN works great, LAN is poky) That 
would seem like a conflict ur are the matched and I would need two at the 
router.
interesting technology, really curious how this works.
Fred

At 02:12 PM 5/11/2010, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with:
>Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but still 
>running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.
>
>Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the PL 
>adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other piece (I 
>got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now I have the 
>laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where the wireless 
>signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 100 Mbps network 
>(what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps (big files).
>
>Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at 92 
>Mbps.
>
>So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.
>
>I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to get 
>that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.
>
>On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>>I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently 
>>glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.
>>
>>lopaka
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________
>>From: Anthony Q. Martin
>>To: The Hardware List
>>Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
>>Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)
>>
>>Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that 
>>perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could 
>>connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a special 
>>adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or 
>>something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  From some 
>>reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is best, followed by 
>>a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. Is that true?  I live in 
>>a two story house, so one wondering if the wiring is truly connected between 
>>the levels.
>>
>>Anyone played with one?
>>
>>I guess I can be the tester...
>>
>>
>>-
>>
>>So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.
>>
>>I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.
>>
>>Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.
>>
>>But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?  Are 
>>the backward compaticable?
>>
>>Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use 802.11n 
>>on its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days 802.11n ready?
>>
>>I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and neither 
>>of them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think it's not 
>>there.
>>
>>If it is there, which router is best?
>>
>>
>>
>>No virus found in this incoming message.
>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/10/10 
>>02:26:00
>>
>>   
>
>__ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature 
>database 5106 (20100511) __
>
>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
>http://www.eset.com
>
>

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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-11 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
Good to hear it working well for you. The wiring in my condo is substandard and 
I believe that's one of the reasons it wasn't reliable for me. I HAVE to use 
UPS's with line conditioning on all computers here or they will start having 
random issues from frequent power drops and spikes.


lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 2:12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but 
still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.

Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the 
PL adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other 
piece (I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now 
I have the laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where 
the wireless signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 
100 Mbps network (what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps 
(big files).

Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at 
92 Mbps.

So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.

I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to 
get that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.

On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
> I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently 
> glitchy. I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.
>
> lopaka
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Anthony Q. Martin
> To: The Hardware List
> Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
> Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)
>
> Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that 
> perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could 
> connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a special 
> adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or 
> something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  From some 
> reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is best, followed by 
> a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. Is that true?  I live in 
> a two story house, so one wondering if the wiring is truly connected between 
> the levels.
>
> Anyone played with one?
>
> I guess I can be the tester...
>
>
> -
>
> So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.
>
> I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.
>
> Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.
>
> But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?  Are 
> the backward compaticable?
>
> Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use 802.11n 
> on its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days 802.11n ready?
>
> I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and neither 
> of them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think it's not 
> there.
>
> If it is there, which router is best?
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/10/10 
> 02:26:00
>
>


Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-11 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Well, I got my powerline stuff a day earlyall of it is netgear, but 
still running the linksys wrt56g at 10/100.


Getting the netgear powerline stuff going is too easy...just plug in the 
PL adapter, plug in the ethernet cable to it, and than plug in the other 
piece (I got the 4 port AV unit) into a socket someplace.  So right now 
I have the laptop at the other end of the house (one level down), where 
the wireless signal barely makes it. But on the powerline system I got 
100 Mbps network (what's reported) and I am transfering files at 45 Mbps 
(big files).


Of course, that same file moved over the router to my other PC moves at 
92 Mbps.


So wired ethernet is definitely better than powerline, but we knew that.

I can't wait to try this on the Netgear router...it will take longer to 
get that up, so I'm doing simple tests first.


On 5/10/2010 11:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently glitchy. 
I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin
To: The Hardware List
Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that perhaps 
a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could connect both 
devices over a powerline network rather than using a special adapter for Tivo 
and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or something like that, I 
have a ready solution for networking.  From some reading, the logic goes that a 
wired ethernet connection is best, followed by a powerline connect, and then a 
wireless connection. Is that true?  I live in a two story house, so one 
wondering if the wiring is truly connected between the levels.

Anyone played with one?

I guess I can be the tester...


-

So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.

I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.

Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.

But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?  Are the 
backward compaticable?

Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use 802.11n on 
its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days 802.11n ready?

I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and neither of 
them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think it's not there.

If it is there, which router is best?



No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/10/10 
02:26:00

   


Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-11 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Mon, 10 May 2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

All of the wifi bridges I have seen just support one device on the other 
end...


Plug it into a switch...


Dropping a wire down through a wall into a crawl space on the other end of the 
house and then running under the house is a  major pain.


Could just do that to get the wireless bridge closer to the wire if you 
suspect a range issue.




Christopher Fisk
--
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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-10 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently glitchy. 
I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: The Hardware List 
Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that perhaps 
a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could connect both 
devices over a powerline network rather than using a special adapter for Tivo 
and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or something like that, I 
have a ready solution for networking.  From some reading, the logic goes that a 
wired ethernet connection is best, followed by a powerline connect, and then a 
wireless connection. Is that true?  I live in a two story house, so one 
wondering if the wiring is truly connected between the levels.

Anyone played with one?

I guess I can be the tester...


-

So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.

I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.

Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.

But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?  Are the 
backward compaticable?

Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use 802.11n on 
its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days 802.11n ready?

I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and neither of 
them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think it's not there.

If it is there, which router is best?


Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-10 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
All of the wifi bridges I have seen just support one device on the other 
end...and I'm not sure it would really solve the problems with wireless 
dropping out (I don't know if it is a tivo problem or a wireless 
problem, as the tivo will drop while the wireless PC are still 
going)...that's half the problem...and the other is just lack of speed 
on HD downloads (amazon) and file transfers from tivo to PC.


Dropping a wire down through a wall into a crawl space on the other end 
of the house and then running under the house is a  major pain.  I did 
that for my rear speakers in my big room, but that was just across one 
room and the crawl space there is easy to get to.  There is much less 
room on the computer end of the house...Powerline adapters, if they 
work, is more than a sufficient solution.  If they work, which we'll see 
soon enough.


On 5/10/2010 8:30 AM, maccrawj wrote:
A wifi bridge is just that and there are more than a few out there. 
AFAIK, take an old WRT54G(S) w/ dd-wrt & it can be setup to work in 
reverse as a client/bridge instead of an AP/Router. Don't know if 
that's going to work better than simply putting the devices on the 
wifi directly though.


IMHO it does not take major construction to run a single drop across a 
basement & up through the floor in most houses, YMMV. 99% of the time 
that's what I wold do, the other 1% I simply run wire around edges of 
room! ;)


Let us know how it works out
On 5/10/2010 4:54 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

What I really need (if the powerline is no good) is a wireless
link down there and then that out to ethernet portsis there a
product that does that?




No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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14:26:00

   


Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-10 Thread maccrawj
A wifi bridge is just that and there are more than a few out there. AFAIK, take an 
old WRT54G(S) w/ dd-wrt & it can be setup to work in reverse as a client/bridge 
instead of an AP/Router. Don't know if that's going to work better than simply 
putting the devices on the wifi directly though.


IMHO it does not take major construction to run a single drop across a basement & up 
through the floor in most houses, YMMV. 99% of the time that's what I wold do, the 
other 1% I simply run wire around edges of room! ;)


Let us know how it works out
On 5/10/2010 4:54 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

What I really need (if the powerline is no good) is a wireless
link down there and then that out to ethernet portsis there a
product that does that?



Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-10 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
This stuff ought to be here by Wednesday, so I'll test it out and give a 
report in terms of performance.


I certainly don't expect it to be a good as Gb Ethernet, but it cost way 
less in a house built in 1988. And my experience with wireless has not 
be stellar...too many drops on the wireless to the tivo, even when the 
PC wireless network is working.  I'm hoping for both an improvement in 
speed and reliability with the wired powerline network.  If the legs 
aren't connected then I'll know quickly and just return the parts to 
amazon.  When I'll just get the new wireless N Tivo adapter, though that 
is not at all a good solution since the other items will not have 'net 
access. What I really need (if the powerline is no good) is a wireless 
link down there and then that out to ethernet portsis there a 
product that does that?


On 5/10/2010 12:28 AM, maccrawj wrote:
I just looked quickly and did not find a definitive answer as to which 
conductor carries the signal. Neutral being tied to earth ground at 
the SE would likely eat the signal IMO.


From what I've seen over the past 30 years with X10 "carrier current 
operated switches" they have the Achilles heel that signals do not 
travel between the two "legs" of power feed without an active 220V 
device running or a signal coupler added at the mains service panel to 
join the legs. PNA's would not be a panacea given that line noise 
would be an issue, this has been very true of X10 remote control systems.


Best bet is still a single CAT 6 or 5E drop terminating at Gb Ethernet 
switch to feed the devices. Of course it really depends on how much 
throughput you need and if latency plays a role as to if power line or 
wireless bridge makes more sense.



On 5/8/2010 6:46 AM, DSinc wrote:

Anthony,
Your wiring should be; IF you only have a single breaker panel/load
center. I am not familiar with powerline adapters. I would hope that it
uses the AC Neutral (white) power line because all the white wires
should be tied together at the commoning bus. JMHO.
Best,
Duncan







No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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14:26:00

   


Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-09 Thread maccrawj
I just looked quickly and did not find a definitive answer as to which conductor 
carries the signal. Neutral being tied to earth ground at the SE would likely eat the 
signal IMO.


From what I've seen over the past 30 years with X10 "carrier current operated 
switches" they have the Achilles heel that signals do not travel between the two 
"legs" of power feed without an active 220V device running or a signal coupler added 
at the mains service panel to join the legs. PNA's would not be a panacea given that 
line noise would be an issue, this has been very true of X10 remote control systems.


Best bet is still a single CAT 6 or 5E drop terminating at Gb Ethernet switch to feed 
the devices. Of course it really depends on how much throughput you need and if 
latency plays a role as to if power line or wireless bridge makes more sense.



On 5/8/2010 6:46 AM, DSinc wrote:

Anthony,
Your wiring should be; IF you only have a single breaker panel/load
center. I am not familiar with powerline adapters. I would hope that it
uses the AC Neutral (white) power line because all the white wires
should be tied together at the commoning bus. JMHO.
Best,
Duncan






Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-08 Thread tmservo
I love the 85mb powerline connect for many.  Its reliable, no hastle and works. 
 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: "Anthony Q. Martin" 
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 09:22:18 
To: The Hardware List
Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that 
perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could 
connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a 
special adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an 
XBox or something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  
 From some reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is 
best, followed by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. 
Is that true?  I live in a two story house, so one wondering if the 
wiring is truly connected between the levels.

Anyone played with one?

I guess I can be the tester...


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So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.

I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.

Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.

But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?  
Are the backward compaticable?

Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use 
802.11n on its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days 
802.11n ready?

I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and 
neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think 
it's not there.

If it is there, which router is best?


Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-08 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

Duncan,
Yes, I only have one breaker panel in this house! Thanks.

On 5/8/2010 9:46 AM, DSinc wrote:

Anthony,
Your wiring should be; IF you only have a single breaker panel/load 
center.  I am not familiar with powerline adapters. I would hope that 
it uses the AC Neutral (white) power line because all the white wires 
should be tied together at the commoning bus. JMHO.

Best,
Duncan


On 05/08/2010 09:22, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that
perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could
connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a
special adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an
XBox or something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.
 From some reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is
best, followed by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection.
Is that true? I live in a two story house, so one wondering if the
wiring is truly connected between the levels.

Anyone played with one?

I guess I can be the tester...


-

So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.

I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.

Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.

But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?
Are the backward compaticable?

Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use
802.11n on its WiFi? What about an iPad? Is everything new these days
802.11n ready?

I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and
neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility. That makes me think
it's not there.

If it is there, which router is best?




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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-08 Thread DSinc

Anthony,
Your wiring should be; IF you only have a single breaker panel/load 
center.  I am not familiar with powerline adapters. I would hope that it 
uses the AC Neutral (white) power line because all the white wires 
should be tied together at the commoning bus. JMHO.

Best,
Duncan


On 05/08/2010 09:22, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that
perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could
connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a
special adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an
XBox or something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.
 From some reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is
best, followed by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection.
Is that true? I live in a two story house, so one wondering if the
wiring is truly connected between the levels.

Anyone played with one?

I guess I can be the tester...


-

So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.

I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.

Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.

But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?
Are the backward compaticable?

Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use
802.11n on its WiFi? What about an iPad? Is everything new these days
802.11n ready?

I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and
neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility. That makes me think
it's not there.

If it is there, which router is best?



[H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-08 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that 
perhaps a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could 
connect both devices over a powerline network rather than using a 
special adapter for Tivo and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an 
XBox or something like that, I have a ready solution for networking.  
From some reading, the logic goes that a wired ethernet connection is 
best, followed by a powerline connect, and then a wireless connection. 
Is that true?  I live in a two story house, so one wondering if the 
wiring is truly connected between the levels.


Anyone played with one?

I guess I can be the tester...


-

So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.

I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.

Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.

But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?  
Are the backward compaticable?


Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use 
802.11n on its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days 
802.11n ready?


I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and 
neither of them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think 
it's not there.


If it is there, which router is best?