Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Ding ding. Reading any sizable length of text on a backlit-style screen is miserable. For that reason, the iPad makes a terrible ebook platform. The reflective-style screens on the Amazon Kindle and the BN Nook make them vastly superior offerings for reading-centric activities. Sure, it does a lot of other things, but a lot of people are offering it as a Kindle/Nook killer and it just quite frankly is a horrible platform for reading IMO. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:06 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? I guess it depends. I don't own a kindle, a family member does. Key difference: I can sit outside and read a kindle. Try to read an iphone out in the sun. You can't. It might as well be a rock. So, as a book, its a good curl on the couch kind of book. But worthless outside. As a tablet pc, it can't print, export documents, has no onboard usb or camera. It doesn't support flash and has a locked app environment. The cheapest kindle is 250. The cheapest ipad is $500. The cheapest kindle has 3g. The cheapest ipad doesn't. So, kind of geared differently. Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
I just saw this on another list; seems pretty cool! http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ Thoughts? BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 5:02 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? At 02:24 AM 1/28/2010, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: They do. Its called the archos 7 (and I think 9). Google chrome, the whole works. Oh, about $150 less, and yes, it can run Kindle software, so ebooks still work fine. Damn. Now those look really cool. T
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Well, that seems strange. How come no one but you knows about this? Is this color and touch screen? What size? Let's face it...size does matter here. A tiny phone screen is only useful sometimes.it's not the device I want to have in my living room. I can't see reading a book on a tiny screendon't really want to read the web on them either. Picture videos are too small...too much of a compromise. Yeah, though, I'd rather not have to be a victim of the Apple/Job control. On 1/28/2010 1:24 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: They do. Its called the archos 7 (and I think 9). Google chrome, the whole works. Oh, about $150 less, and yes, it can run Kindle software, so ebooks still work fine. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bino Gopalbinogo...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:14:53 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? I guess I was looking at it from the perspective of it being nice to have in the living room when I wanted to use a browser/look things up w/o the whole having to boot up a laptop and all that. I do have a 3GS but the screen is just too small to really easily do stuff on it and the increased screen size on the iPad is useful. I also do like the multitouch interface; one reason I'm leaning towards it. But at the same time it seems so limited that I'm thinking that there will be better alternatives that will do more for OS...can anyone imagine the Google Android equivalent?! That would be awesome! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:12 PM To: hardware Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? If I didn't already have an iPhone 3GS I would definitely be interested. But as it stands, my iPhone does everything the iPad does (just, smaller, which isn't a big deal. The killer app for me would be the ability to subscribe to all of my dead tree magazines in ebook form on the iPad, and make notes, annotations, and lookup references. When that arrives, I'm there. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM, DSincdx7...@bellsouth.net wrote: Bino, With this share you seem to be the Uber-Early-Adopter-Candidate. I checked today and it seems that NO further info about access to an iPad will be available until March or April. But, I suppose the Speculation-Masters are now in full gear. To me, it is just another Apple appliance :) Best, Duncan On 01/27/2010 16:25, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
At 02:24 AM 1/28/2010, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: They do. Its called the archos 7 (and I think 9). Google chrome, the whole works. Oh, about $150 less, and yes, it can run Kindle software, so ebooks still work fine. Damn. Now those look really cool. T
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Apple? Apple who? On 1/27/2010 3:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
These are too funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTzhXMbOWHE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4 On 1/28/2010 3:01 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: Apple? Apple who? On 1/27/2010 3:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2651 - Release Date: 01/28/10 02:36:00
[H] The iPad vs the competition?
So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Bino, With this share you seem to be the Uber-Early-Adopter-Candidate. I checked today and it seems that NO further info about access to an iPad will be available until March or April. But, I suppose the Speculation-Masters are now in full gear. To me, it is just another Apple appliance :) Best, Duncan On 01/27/2010 16:25, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
If I didn't already have an iPhone 3GS I would definitely be interested. But as it stands, my iPhone does everything the iPad does (just, smaller, which isn't a big deal. The killer app for me would be the ability to subscribe to all of my dead tree magazines in ebook form on the iPad, and make notes, annotations, and lookup references. When that arrives, I'm there. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM, DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net wrote: Bino, With this share you seem to be the Uber-Early-Adopter-Candidate. I checked today and it seems that NO further info about access to an iPad will be available until March or April. But, I suppose the Speculation-Masters are now in full gear. To me, it is just another Apple appliance :) Best, Duncan On 01/27/2010 16:25, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
The iPad is NOT a computer, no matter how much The Steve or Apple marketing says so. It is not a tablet PC. It is a consumer electronic device, akin to a Kindle or DVD player. Think of it in that context. It is not meant to replace a computer or laptop as it provides different, more specialized functionality. Just like my Lenovo x200t tablet and iPhone provide completely different functionality. So the reference to 1984 is not warranted IMHO. Now, there is something to be said for consumer lock-in to Apple's world and content delivery schemes (ie iTunes), but so far it has proved a far smoother end user experience than anything else the general public uses to provide multimedia content on a device. Until something come along that is easier to use for your average person, the public is going to be just happy living in Apple's world. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:36 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
I guess... we'll see if it can be jailbroken easily. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 07:05:58PM -0500, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00 -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at it. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt the Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this thing. To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or a Kindle. On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at it. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.netwrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Free data on the Kindle is only true in the US, not internationally. And even the US deal is not likely to last forever. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt the Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this thing. To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or a Kindle. On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at it. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Well I got a Kindle as an Xmas gift from my GF and used it for a few days but didn't really like it and she sent it back to Amazon, and I'm glad she did now b/c the Kindle just doesn't do enough for me... An iPad or similar device that can do full web-browsing along with reading ebooks and other stuff (like BrianW) states makes a Kindle or similar single-use devices completely obsolete, IMHO... BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:40 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Free data on the Kindle is only true in the US, not internationally. And even the US deal is not likely to last forever. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt the Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this thing. To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or a Kindle. On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at it. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
The fact that it won't support flash is a killer. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:40:04 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Free data on the Kindle is only true in the US, not internationally. And even the US deal is not likely to last forever. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt the Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this thing. To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or a Kindle. On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at it. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
I don't notice lack of flash support in the 2+ years I've used my iPhone. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:59 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: The fact that it won't support flash is a killer. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:40:04 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Free data on the Kindle is only true in the US, not internationally. And even the US deal is not likely to last forever. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt the Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this thing. To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or a Kindle. On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at it. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
I guess it depends. I don't own a kindle, a family member does. Key difference: I can sit outside and read a kindle. Try to read an iphone out in the sun. You can't. It might as well be a rock. So, as a book, its a good curl on the couch kind of book. But worthless outside. As a tablet pc, it can't print, export documents, has no onboard usb or camera. It doesn't support flash and has a locked app environment. The cheapest kindle is 250. The cheapest ipad is $500. The cheapest kindle has 3g. The cheapest ipad doesn't. So, kind of geared differently. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bino Gopal binogo...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:01:03 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Well I got a Kindle as an Xmas gift from my GF and used it for a few days but didn't really like it and she sent it back to Amazon, and I'm glad she did now b/c the Kindle just doesn't do enough for me... An iPad or similar device that can do full web-browsing along with reading ebooks and other stuff (like BrianW) states makes a Kindle or similar single-use devices completely obsolete, IMHO... BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:40 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Free data on the Kindle is only true in the US, not internationally. And even the US deal is not likely to last forever. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt the Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this thing. To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or a Kindle. On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at it. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Because it doesn't mean as much on a phone. Jobs is busy showing off the nytimes, he goes to cbs's website... And no lead story, just a blue box with no flash plugin. The iphone was a web ready phone. Lower expectations. People see ipad and think 'wow, I'll do facebook, youtube, hulu. Except youtube is dead (so they need the java conversion) and hulu is a nogo. Game apps on facebook? No way So you get an ipod touch (it won't make calls so not an iphone, and no camera either, so a loss there) that can't really fit into the tablet market. I'm just wondering outside of super apple fans, what's the major lure here? Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:05:45 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? I don't notice lack of flash support in the 2+ years I've used my iPhone. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:59 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: The fact that it won't support flash is a killer. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:40:04 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Free data on the Kindle is only true in the US, not internationally. And even the US deal is not likely to last forever. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt the Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this thing. To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or a Kindle. On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at it. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO -- Bryan G. Seitz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 14:36:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
Well, I'll just be happy if it spurs development and lots of tablet PCs that come out with better features and at a lower price point. Like I said, my use case is browsing the web in the living room and while not a perfect solution, it's not bad, but if I can get something better than does more, and for less, I have no problem using a tablet PC for that, so I was hoping for links to some alternatives from folks (if there are even any comparable devices out there currently). We don't need to debate whether the iPad itself is worth getting, but there does seem to be a middle market b/w smartphone and full-on laptop developing, and my feeling is that when the tech gets there, laptops will disappear for something more the form-factor of these devices (long-term, maybe foldable devices once OLED/real epaper becomes viable, with projection keyboards, etc, etc)... BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:09 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Because it doesn't mean as much on a phone. Jobs is busy showing off the nytimes, he goes to cbs's website... And no lead story, just a blue box with no flash plugin. The iphone was a web ready phone. Lower expectations. People see ipad and think 'wow, I'll do facebook, youtube, hulu. Except youtube is dead (so they need the java conversion) and hulu is a nogo. Game apps on facebook? No way So you get an ipod touch (it won't make calls so not an iphone, and no camera either, so a loss there) that can't really fit into the tablet market. I'm just wondering outside of super apple fans, what's the major lure here? Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:05:45 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? I don't notice lack of flash support in the 2+ years I've used my iPhone. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:59 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: The fact that it won't support flash is a killer. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:40:04 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Free data on the Kindle is only true in the US, not internationally. And even the US deal is not likely to last forever. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt the Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this thing. To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or a Kindle. On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at it. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Jailbreak FTW. Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitzse...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked down / GAY. (And I'm an Apple fan boy). On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC with a different OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go down this path hence no matter how good, it must die. That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be an ION based netbook. On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
I guess I was looking at it from the perspective of it being nice to have in the living room when I wanted to use a browser/look things up w/o the whole having to boot up a laptop and all that. I do have a 3GS but the screen is just too small to really easily do stuff on it and the increased screen size on the iPad is useful. I also do like the multitouch interface; one reason I'm leaning towards it. But at the same time it seems so limited that I'm thinking that there will be better alternatives that will do more for OS...can anyone imagine the Google Android equivalent?! That would be awesome! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:12 PM To: hardware Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? If I didn't already have an iPhone 3GS I would definitely be interested. But as it stands, my iPhone does everything the iPad does (just, smaller, which isn't a big deal. The killer app for me would be the ability to subscribe to all of my dead tree magazines in ebook form on the iPad, and make notes, annotations, and lookup references. When that arrives, I'm there. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM, DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net wrote: Bino, With this share you seem to be the Uber-Early-Adopter-Candidate. I checked today and it seems that NO further info about access to an iPad will be available until March or April. But, I suppose the Speculation-Masters are now in full gear. To me, it is just another Apple appliance :) Best, Duncan On 01/27/2010 16:25, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO
Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition?
They do. Its called the archos 7 (and I think 9). Google chrome, the whole works. Oh, about $150 less, and yes, it can run Kindle software, so ebooks still work fine. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bino Gopal binogo...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:14:53 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? I guess I was looking at it from the perspective of it being nice to have in the living room when I wanted to use a browser/look things up w/o the whole having to boot up a laptop and all that. I do have a 3GS but the screen is just too small to really easily do stuff on it and the increased screen size on the iPad is useful. I also do like the multitouch interface; one reason I'm leaning towards it. But at the same time it seems so limited that I'm thinking that there will be better alternatives that will do more for OS...can anyone imagine the Google Android equivalent?! That would be awesome! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:12 PM To: hardware Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? If I didn't already have an iPhone 3GS I would definitely be interested. But as it stands, my iPhone does everything the iPad does (just, smaller, which isn't a big deal. The killer app for me would be the ability to subscribe to all of my dead tree magazines in ebook form on the iPad, and make notes, annotations, and lookup references. When that arrives, I'm there. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM, DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net wrote: Bino, With this share you seem to be the Uber-Early-Adopter-Candidate. I checked today and it seems that NO further info about access to an iPad will be available until March or April. But, I suppose the Speculation-Masters are now in full gear. To me, it is just another Apple appliance :) Best, Duncan On 01/27/2010 16:25, Bino Gopal wrote: So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already guess at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to vent it here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual evaluations of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there now, or that people expect to come out in the next few months. I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet PC-type of device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow the iPad out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on a particular one coming out soon? BINO
