Re: [hlds] creating css server
How is your server connected to the internet? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] creating css server -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] nah not working , i got 27000-27056 open also opened separetly is 27015 , 27016, 27017 still not working, but directly to modem works. i have ran servers before , --ccnp -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Source server crashing
On Thursday, August 19, 2004 5:33 PM NZT, CAIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same thing here Simon. I finally realized this happens when the bomb detonates. -- Cain Naw, that's not it. Bomb doesn't do anything. I think somebody else got it right when they said it is do with the server being full. Push your maxplayers up high and it will stay up fine as long as it doesn't fill up. -Simon ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] CS:S Logging
Does CS:Source log like standard counter-strike at all? I've tried to turn it on the same way as counter-strike but its not working. Or is this feature not yet implemented (I presumed it would be cause logs = rather helpful for testing) Cheers, Ned ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Grrrrr... update syntax?
I had the same problem (read bellow) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Dumont - MWEB Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] Download parameter not working for me - sorted thanks! Thanks for the quick response AgentHH It seems the problem was using hldsupdatetool.exe instead of just hldsupdatetool. Thanks anyway :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AgentHH Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Download parameter not working for me Brandon Dumont - MWEB wrote: I get this error E:\Servers\CSServers\CSSourceWARNING: unrecognized parameter 'source' And then it just dl's the hl1 base content? Help! B. Make sure you've got quotes around Counter-Strike Source, like so: hldsupdatetool -command update -game Counter-Strike Source Be sure to remove the brackets when you run the command. --AgentHH ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds MWEB: S.A.'s most trusted and reliable Internet Service Provider. Just Like That. To join, go to: http://join.mweb.co.za or call 0860032000. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds MWEB: S.A.'s trusted Internet Service Provider. Just Like That. To join, go to: http://join.mweb.co.za or call 0860032000. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] CS:S Logging
add log 1 to your autoexec.cfg and it will generate logs in the same format as in 1.6. On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 06:18, Ian Shaw wrote: Does CS:Source log like standard counter-strike at all? I've tried to turn it on the same way as counter-strike but its not working. Or is this feature not yet implemented (I presumed it would be cause logs = rather helpful for testing) Cheers, Ned ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Auto-update not working for CS: S servers?
So does the -autoupdate flag not work with CS:S dedicated servers? When I add this flag, it keeps mentioning that I've mixed hl1 and cs: source, which I haven't. Seeing as there's probably going to be a lot of updates, not having this available is going to keep knocking servers off the net since they're out of date (until the admin realizes it). Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] AMD or Intel?
Both Opteron and Xeon processors require registered memory. The kicker is registered memory has a small time penalty to it. Personal experience: At work for the past 4 years we have been running a test lab of 25 computers running our product. Some systems have registered memory others do not. To be honest I have yet to see a difference in reliability between the two types of memory. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] AMD or Intel? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Who the hell isn't going to have ECC Memory in a Server anyhow? Can you get Xeon Motherboards that won't run on ECC memory? To be honest I've never even bothered to check, its not even something you think about when making the decisions on these sorts of boxes. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] An end to the graphic card discussions
Yes I know this isn't a gpu mailing list but I thought you people should see this. http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?p=423812#post423812 B. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deadman Standing Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] AMD or Intel? Both Opteron and Xeon processors require registered memory. The kicker is registered memory has a small time penalty to it. Personal experience: At work for the past 4 years we have been running a test lab of 25 computers running our product. Some systems have registered memory others do not. To be honest I have yet to see a difference in reliability between the two types of memory. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] AMD or Intel? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Who the hell isn't going to have ECC Memory in a Server anyhow? Can you get Xeon Motherboards that won't run on ECC memory? To be honest I've never even bothered to check, its not even something you think about when making the decisions on these sorts of boxes. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds MWEB: S.A.'s trusted Internet Service Provider. Just Like That. To join, go to: http://join.mweb.co.za or call 0860032000. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
This is gettin off topic ? VAC hasn't updated in months... who do we contact for vac updating? From: CorpseHumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:56:01 -0700 (PDT) OK, I apologize for my earlier comments. I thought I was being flamed at a little, but I was mistaken. THIS person is lighting a real fire!! Wow... OWNED. Corpse --- Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, who crawled up your ass - mr. better than everyone, never played on anyone's server except his own!?! Some of us do happen to step outside into the light once in a while and play on servers other than our own. Bugger off loser. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Umm, the easy solution to that problem of blatant hacks is, Be the Server Admin. If you are not the server admin or a server admin, one has to ask what are you doing here? Original Message Follows From: Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 07:31:07 -0700 I have thus far refused to participate in the everyone hacks thread, but last nights CS experience has left me so freakin mad that I need to vent somewhere! I play only on a few servers, all West Coast. We definately have been visited time to time by super-good players, and very infrequently by someone with very questionable skills. Most of the servers are regulars so we know everyone who plays there and the regs usually pressure the hacks away pretty quickly. Last night I jump on for a few rounds before bed. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot - my whole freakin team dead, and all this within about 2 seconds of round start. A player named knife was using every hack imaginable: speed, aimbot, wall, everything! Typically when someone is this blatant, everyone will vote him off fairly quickly. Last night the regs were the minority and no one on the other team would vote against this guy. This totally pissed me off. I was cussing everyone out, and eventually started taunting the other players because they wouldn't vote against him. I really didn't get it. This guy would kill everyone on my team within 1-2 seconds and no one on his team would kill anyone. They wouldn't even get a shot off - how the heck can that be fun for anyone? But they wouldn't vote him off! One of my favorite servers ruined by a freak hack and loser opponents who obviously liked standing around doing nothing. wow. So there's my vent / rant / etc. Hopefully, VAC will continue to improve and somehow, somewhere, servers will become a better place to play. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy Lynn Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? K. Mike Bradley wrote: I said 3/4 have DL'ed and used cheats at least once in a while. 50% cheat all the time either because they are cheaters at heart or because they want to even the playing field when playing other cheaters. The numbers are growing because of all the cheaters. Hey Mike, you want to start, I don't know, bringing some data with ya when you make these ridiculous claims? If one admin out two respond after this saying that like me, they don't cheat, will you be quiet then? And while you're at it... You may or may not have noticed this, but this isn't a forum, it's a listsrv, and adding a one line response on top of about 22K of misquoted and mangled crap is about the most useless thing a learned admin could do. There are people who get the digest of the list and when you make posts like you did it completely destroys any sense of continuity and needlessly bloats the digests. Not to mention there are people on the list who have metered usage, so downloading all these over-quoted responses does them no favors either. You're using Outlook, so take a look at the great program Outlook Quotefix at http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/. It'll automatically do things like strip out signatures and listsrv footers (assuming they're properly delineated by --), put a sensible quote header in, word wrap stuff, and move your cursor beneath quoted material automatically. All you need to do is pick out the stuff you don't want quoted and delete it, a task that takes about 5 seconds. -- Tim ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or
[hlds] Error verifying Steam UserID Ticket (1)
Hi, I had a problem earliar where anyone who connected to my server would get the message 'Error verifying Steam UserID Ticket (1) and get knocked off. I found the problem and it was because I was running the HLDS under a user account. I created the account Games-HL and ran the HLDS with it and that's why I got the error. When I ran it as administrator, it ran fine and everyonecould connect. Any ideas why this happened? This is running Win2003. Thanks. -- Rob Gabaree [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Auto-update not working for CS: S servers?
[AIX]Hood wrote: So does the -autoupdate flag not work with CS:S dedicated servers? When I add this flag, it keeps mentioning that I've mixed hl1 and cs: source, which I haven't. Seeing as there's probably going to be a lot of updates, not having this available is going to keep knocking servers off the net since they're out of date (until the admin realizes it). Thanks. Does not work with the Win32 application. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Reguarding the MOTD in Source
Yeah I know there are more pressing issues but I hate not knowing. I set our MOTD to redirect to the html file we use but yet the server is still displaying the default Welcome to I assume the motd feature has not been implemented yet because I completely removed the stock greeting? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] creating css server
try the setting in the router, are you DMZ'ing the box, or port forwarding? Which router are you using? It uses NAT? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] creating css server -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] nah not working , i got 27000-27056 open also opened separetly is 27015 , 27016, 27017 still not working, but directly to modem works. i have ran servers before , --ccnp -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] An end to the graphic card discussions
I wouldn't trust that review with $0.01. This one seems to paint a totally different picture. http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=1181s=1 - voogru. -Original Message- From: Brandon Dumont - MWEB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] An end to the graphic card discussions Yes I know this isn't a gpu mailing list but I thought you people should see this. http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?p=423812#post423812 B. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deadman Standing Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] AMD or Intel? Both Opteron and Xeon processors require registered memory. The kicker is registered memory has a small time penalty to it. Personal experience: At work for the past 4 years we have been running a test lab of 25 computers running our product. Some systems have registered memory others do not. To be honest I have yet to see a difference in reliability between the two types of memory. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] AMD or Intel? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Who the hell isn't going to have ECC Memory in a Server anyhow? Can you get Xeon Motherboards that won't run on ECC memory? To be honest I've never even bothered to check, its not even something you think about when making the decisions on these sorts of boxes. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds MWEB: S.A.'s trusted Internet Service Provider. Just Like That. To join, go to: http://join.mweb.co.za or call 0860032000. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] CSS Server - When Bomb explodes, Server crashes
Cain... I watched this happen several times during yesterday evening's beta. I've also seen multiple occasions which the counter-terrorist forces cannot defuse the bomb when it is planted very close to the wall (only bombsite A, de_dust that i've seen). Wondering if this CS:S bug has been addressed to date? -Original Message- From: CAIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] CSS Server - When Bomb explodes, Server crashes When the bomb explodes my server crashes with some sort of weird memory error. Anyone else seen this problem??? -- Cain Windows 2003 Server 2 Gigs RAM Dual Xeon 3.06 CPUs __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Display Web page on MOTD?
Edit the motd.txt file so that there is only a single line of text: the hyperlink that you'd like to be displayed. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TSM Samurai Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Display Web page on MOTD? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey All, Can anyone tell me how to setup the MOTD file so I can display my webpage when someone joins my server. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] CS 32 player maps?
My maps have 40 spawns. www.mikienet.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DarK Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] CS 32 player maps? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can someone link me or give me a list of default maps that allow 32 player support please? Thanks, DarK -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] 2 off the topic questions (apologies)
Dude ... VAC ain't working at all now. Maybe there are no false bans but it only detects outdated cheats. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ooks Server Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] 2 off the topic questions (apologies) Actually false bans aren't really a problem in my opinion. Last time my friend was falsely banned he contacted valve through the steam website and they determined that he was indeed falsely banned, and removed it. And as far as I can remember, any mass false-banning that happened was always reversed, without any work of the clients being done. In all fairness to Valve, you don't hear as much about false bans these days. I attribute this to the maturity of VAC - IOW, they are getting their act together. I'm not saying that VAC is great or even good - just that it seems to be working better then it used to. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] CS 32 player maps?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nice original and basic site. Woot WoOt! K. Mike Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:My maps have 40 spawns. www.mikienet.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DarK Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] CS 32 player maps? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can someone link me or give me a list of default maps that allow 32 player support please? Thanks, DarK -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net - Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] AMD or Intel?
This information is entirely incorrect. Opterons have on-chip memory controllers, which require registered memory. Chipsets for xeon motherboards do not require registered memory. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deadman Standing Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] AMD or Intel? Both Opteron and Xeon processors require registered memory. The kicker is registered memory has a small time penalty to it. Personal experience: At work for the past 4 years we have been running a test lab of 25 computers running our product. Some systems have registered memory others do not. To be honest I have yet to see a difference in reliability between the two types of memory. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] AMD or Intel? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Who the hell isn't going to have ECC Memory in a Server anyhow? Can you get Xeon Motherboards that won't run on ECC memory? To be honest I've never even bothered to check, its not even something you think about when making the decisions on these sorts of boxes. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
It is you know!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC Update? K. Mike Bradley wrote: -- As far as the clever or marginal hackers go (those who simply turn on the hacks from time to time) we can only hope that, as hack detection improves, they have to keep trying to get new CD keys to get back in the game. -- All hope is lost ... VAC is not being updated one tenth of what would be needed. These hack writers update their hacks within 4 hours of a VAC update so I see why Valve has given up. I say again ... Right now MyGOT is ravaging CS world. This is happening on Secure servers. People are NOT getting banned, therefore many DL it to stay in the game. The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
VAC hasn't been updated cause they gave up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manshun Tong Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? This is gettin off topic ? VAC hasn't updated in months... who do we contact for vac updating? From: CorpseHumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:56:01 -0700 (PDT) OK, I apologize for my earlier comments. I thought I was being flamed at a little, but I was mistaken. THIS person is lighting a real fire!! Wow... OWNED. Corpse --- Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, who crawled up your ass - mr. better than everyone, never played on anyone's server except his own!?! Some of us do happen to step outside into the light once in a while and play on servers other than our own. Bugger off loser. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Umm, the easy solution to that problem of blatant hacks is, Be the Server Admin. If you are not the server admin or a server admin, one has to ask what are you doing here? Original Message Follows From: Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 07:31:07 -0700 I have thus far refused to participate in the everyone hacks thread, but last nights CS experience has left me so freakin mad that I need to vent somewhere! I play only on a few servers, all West Coast. We definately have been visited time to time by super-good players, and very infrequently by someone with very questionable skills. Most of the servers are regulars so we know everyone who plays there and the regs usually pressure the hacks away pretty quickly. Last night I jump on for a few rounds before bed. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot - my whole freakin team dead, and all this within about 2 seconds of round start. A player named knife was using every hack imaginable: speed, aimbot, wall, everything! Typically when someone is this blatant, everyone will vote him off fairly quickly. Last night the regs were the minority and no one on the other team would vote against this guy. This totally pissed me off. I was cussing everyone out, and eventually started taunting the other players because they wouldn't vote against him. I really didn't get it. This guy would kill everyone on my team within 1-2 seconds and no one on his team would kill anyone. They wouldn't even get a shot off - how the heck can that be fun for anyone? But they wouldn't vote him off! One of my favorite servers ruined by a freak hack and loser opponents who obviously liked standing around doing nothing. wow. So there's my vent / rant / etc. Hopefully, VAC will continue to improve and somehow, somewhere, servers will become a better place to play. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy Lynn Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? K. Mike Bradley wrote: I said 3/4 have DL'ed and used cheats at least once in a while. 50% cheat all the time either because they are cheaters at heart or because they want to even the playing field when playing other cheaters. The numbers are growing because of all the cheaters. Hey Mike, you want to start, I don't know, bringing some data with ya when you make these ridiculous claims? If one admin out two respond after this saying that like me, they don't cheat, will you be quiet then? And while you're at it... You may or may not have noticed this, but this isn't a forum, it's a listsrv, and adding a one line response on top of about 22K of misquoted and mangled crap is about the most useless thing a learned admin could do. There are people who get the digest of the list and when you make posts like you did it completely destroys any sense of continuity and needlessly bloats the digests. Not to mention there are people on the list who have metered usage, so downloading all these over-quoted responses does them no favors either. You're using Outlook, so take a look at the great program Outlook Quotefix at http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/. It'll automatically do things like strip out signatures and listsrv footers (assuming they're properly delineated by --), put a sensible quote header in, word wrap stuff, and move your cursor beneath quoted material automatically. All you need to do is pick out the stuff you don't want quoted and delete it, a task that takes
RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
Yes it makes me mad too. My whole point is that most admins only get the obvious hackers. So your response Umm, the easy solution to that problem of blatant hacks is, Be the Server Admin. Misses the whole point. What we're saying is that VAC is ineffective now and good people are cheating to compensate so cheating is at an all time high. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren J. Mason Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Wow, who crawled up your ass - mr. better than everyone, never played on anyone's server except his own!?! Some of us do happen to step outside into the light once in a while and play on servers other than our own. Bugger off loser. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC Update?
your MOTHER GAVE UP BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:22:08 -0400, K. Mike Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VAC hasn't been updated cause they gave up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manshun Tong Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? This is gettin off topic ? VAC hasn't updated in months... who do we contact for vac updating? From: CorpseHumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:56:01 -0700 (PDT) OK, I apologize for my earlier comments. I thought I was being flamed at a little, but I was mistaken. THIS person is lighting a real fire!! Wow... OWNED. Corpse --- Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, who crawled up your ass - mr. better than everyone, never played on anyone's server except his own!?! Some of us do happen to step outside into the light once in a while and play on servers other than our own. Bugger off loser. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Umm, the easy solution to that problem of blatant hacks is, Be the Server Admin. If you are not the server admin or a server admin, one has to ask what are you doing here? Original Message Follows From: Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 07:31:07 -0700 I have thus far refused to participate in the everyone hacks thread, but last nights CS experience has left me so freakin mad that I need to vent somewhere! I play only on a few servers, all West Coast. We definately have been visited time to time by super-good players, and very infrequently by someone with very questionable skills. Most of the servers are regulars so we know everyone who plays there and the regs usually pressure the hacks away pretty quickly. Last night I jump on for a few rounds before bed. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot - my whole freakin team dead, and all this within about 2 seconds of round start. A player named knife was using every hack imaginable: speed, aimbot, wall, everything! Typically when someone is this blatant, everyone will vote him off fairly quickly. Last night the regs were the minority and no one on the other team would vote against this guy. This totally pissed me off. I was cussing everyone out, and eventually started taunting the other players because they wouldn't vote against him. I really didn't get it. This guy would kill everyone on my team within 1-2 seconds and no one on his team would kill anyone. They wouldn't even get a shot off - how the heck can that be fun for anyone? But they wouldn't vote him off! One of my favorite servers ruined by a freak hack and loser opponents who obviously liked standing around doing nothing. wow. So there's my vent / rant / etc. Hopefully, VAC will continue to improve and somehow, somewhere, servers will become a better place to play. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy Lynn Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? K. Mike Bradley wrote: I said 3/4 have DL'ed and used cheats at least once in a while. 50% cheat all the time either because they are cheaters at heart or because they want to even the playing field when playing other cheaters. The numbers are growing because of all the cheaters. Hey Mike, you want to start, I don't know, bringing some data with ya when you make these ridiculous claims? If one admin out two respond after this saying that like me, they don't cheat, will you be quiet then? And while you're at it... You may or may not have noticed this, but this isn't a forum, it's a listsrv, and adding a one line response on top of about 22K of misquoted and mangled crap is about the most useless thing a learned admin could do. There are people who get the digest of the list and when you make posts like you did it completely destroys any sense of continuity and needlessly bloats the digests. Not to mention there are people on the list who have metered usage, so downloading all these over-quoted responses does them no favors either. You're using Outlook, so take a look at the great program Outlook Quotefix at http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/. It'll automatically do things like strip out signatures and listsrv footers (assuming they're properly
RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
I agree ... We should all adopt a policy of immediately leaving a hacked server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spartibus Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? It's people like yourself taking it to the extreme. Since there's no admin there, what do you do? Leave. Blatant hackers aren't there to be better than anyone else. They're there to annoy and destroy any pub game that's happening. You actually staying in the server and displaying your hate fuels this person to continue cheating on the server. There's more than one server out there. I understand it's a place you enjoy playing at, but you have to use common sense and just find a different place to play for the time being. --- On to the other point someone made. VAC isn't the end-all tool. You actually have to take matters into your own hands, instead of being lazy and rely on something to do every single thing for you. If you can't handle dealing with cheaters, don't admin a server. A lot of people fail to realize just how lucky we are to have a tool like VAC. Even though it's not updated as much as some of us may have wished (at least currently, I think some major changes will be made once Valve finishes its current projects), be happy to have this instead of nothing at all (or horrible, half-assed third party tools) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren J. Mason Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? I have thus far refused to participate in the everyone hacks thread, but last nights CS experience has left me so freakin mad that I need to vent somewhere! I play only on a few servers, all West Coast. We definately have been visited time to time by super-good players, and very infrequently by someone with very questionable skills. Most of the servers are regulars so we know everyone who plays there and the regs usually pressure the hacks away pretty quickly. Last night I jump on for a few rounds before bed. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot - my whole freakin team dead, and all this within about 2 seconds of round start. A player named knife was using every hack imaginable: speed, aimbot, wall, everything! Typically when someone is this blatant, everyone will vote him off fairly quickly. Last night the regs were the minority and no one on the other team would vote against this guy. This totally pissed me off. I was cussing everyone out, and eventually started taunting the other players because they wouldn't vote against him. I really didn't get it. This guy would kill everyone on my team within 1-2 seconds and no one on his team would kill anyone. They wouldn't even get a shot off - how the heck can that be fun for anyone? But they wouldn't vote him off! One of my favorite servers ruined by a freak hack and loser opponents who obviously liked standing around doing nothing. wow. So there's my vent / rant / etc. Hopefully, VAC will continue to improve and somehow, somewhere, servers will become a better place to play. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy Lynn Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? K. Mike Bradley wrote: I said 3/4 have DL'ed and used cheats at least once in a while. 50% cheat all the time either because they are cheaters at heart or because they want to even the playing field when playing other cheaters. The numbers are growing because of all the cheaters. Hey Mike, you want to start, I don't know, bringing some data with ya when you make these ridiculous claims? If one admin out two respond after this saying that like me, they don't cheat, will you be quiet then? And while you're at it... You may or may not have noticed this, but this isn't a forum, it's a listsrv, and adding a one line response on top of about 22K of misquoted and mangled crap is about the most useless thing a learned admin could do. There are people who get the digest of the list and when you make posts like you did it completely destroys any sense of continuity and needlessly bloats the digests. Not to mention there are people on the list who have metered usage, so downloading all these over-quoted responses does them no favors either. You're using Outlook, so take a look at the great program Outlook Quotefix at http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/. It'll automatically do things like strip out signatures and listsrv footers (assuming they're properly delineated by --), put a sensible quote header in, word wrap stuff, and move your cursor beneath quoted material automatically. All you need to do is pick out the stuff you don't want quoted and delete it, a task that takes about 5 seconds. -- Tim ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds] CS:S Server Query
I am currently running uglygs which uses qstat for other games. Does something need to be added to the qtstat.cfg for HL2? Can you show me where you are using it? Thanks! :-) - Original Message - From: Stefan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 1:23 PM Subject: AW: [hlds] CS:S Server Query Yes. Qstat works very well... mfg Brubaker -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Xenos Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. August 2004 18:03 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [hlds] CS:S Server Query This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Is there a tool that currently queries CS:S servers. KQuery isn't working. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
Now I have an interesting situation. One of My most trusted and oldest Admins is being accused of hacking. I spec'd him and made a demo plus I have my trusty HLTV demo recording as always. But the truth is I still don't know if he was hacking or not. He denies it of course. Part of what I thought was a speed hack turned out to be an Exploit of the other Admins discovered and didn't tell anyone about. It is an exploit with a plugin called Force Mod. As in Starwars Force. This guy is very good, always has been. One of the few players that can give me a hard time on my server. He basically owns the # 1 slot in all our stats. The map is Starwars2. This server has been one the few dedicated Starwars2 servers for about 2 years. He is one of the original players and knows the map better than most. He claims he just shoots at certain spots on the walls in the hopes of hitting someone. My son does the same thing and I know for a fact my son Does NOT hack. This Admin of mine caught my attention because he was using the clan tag [myG0t]. He says he was trying to get Hackers to admit they were hacking, which he did and promptly banned them for it! Lol Isn't that entrapment? Now if VAC was up to date this might not have ever been a issue. I will gladly provide the link to DL these demos if anyone is interested in putting their 2 cents in. Please keep in mind that this is a Fun server though usually run pretty strictly. Low Gravity is the Norm there (it is a space map!) I already have verified that he is Not using a speed hack as I first assumed. I am going to see if there is an update for that plugin or fix it myself. Meanwhile he is suspended from admin privileges until I review more demos of him playing. Sorry for the long drawn out post But I am actually getting a bit stressed from this! Mike ParaDOX Munoz www.paradisesgarage.com -Original Message- From: K. Mike Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Yes it makes me mad too. My whole point is that most admins only get the obvious hackers. So your response Umm, the easy solution to that problem of blatant hacks is, Be the Server Admin. Misses the whole point. What we're saying is that VAC is ineffective now and good people are cheating to compensate so cheating is at an all time high. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren J. Mason Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Wow, who crawled up your ass - mr. better than everyone, never played on anyone's server except his own!?! Some of us do happen to step outside into the light once in a while and play on servers other than our own. Bugger off loser. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC Update?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This conversation reminds me of www.pwned.nl Rob Gabaree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: your MOTHER GAVE UP BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:22:08 -0400, K. Mike Bradley wrote: VAC hasn't been updated cause they gave up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manshun Tong Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? This is gettin off topic ? VAC hasn't updated in months... who do we contact for vac updating? From: CorpseHumper Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:56:01 -0700 (PDT) OK, I apologize for my earlier comments. I thought I was being flamed at a little, but I was mistaken. THIS person is lighting a real fire!! Wow... OWNED. Corpse --- Darren J. Mason wrote: Wow, who crawled up your ass - mr. better than everyone, never played on anyone's server except his own!?! Some of us do happen to step outside into the light once in a while and play on servers other than our own. Bugger off loser. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Umm, the easy solution to that problem of blatant hacks is, Be the Server Admin. If you are not the server admin or a server admin, one has to ask what are you doing here? Original Message Follows From: Darren J. Mason Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 07:31:07 -0700 I have thus far refused to participate in the everyone hacks thread, but last nights CS experience has left me so freakin mad that I need to vent somewhere! I play only on a few servers, all West Coast. We definately have been visited time to time by super-good players, and very infrequently by someone with very questionable skills. Most of the servers are regulars so we know everyone who plays there and the regs usually pressure the hacks away pretty quickly. Last night I jump on for a few rounds before bed. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot - my whole freakin team dead, and all this within about 2 seconds of round start. A player named knife was using every hack imaginable: speed, aimbot, wall, everything! Typically when someone is this blatant, everyone will vote him off fairly quickly. Last night the regs were the minority and no one on the other team would vote against this guy. This totally pissed me off. I was cussing everyone out, and eventually started taunting the other players because they wouldn't vote against him. I really didn't get it. This guy would kill everyone on my team within 1-2 seconds and no one on his team would kill anyone. They wouldn't even get a shot off - how the heck can that be fun for anyone? But they wouldn't vote him off! One of my favorite servers ruined by a freak hack and loser opponents who obviously liked standing around doing nothing. wow. So there's my vent / rant / etc. Hopefully, VAC will continue to improve and somehow, somewhere, servers will become a better place to play. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy Lynn Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? K. Mike Bradley wrote: I said 3/4 have DL'ed and used cheats at least once in a while. 50% cheat all the time either because they are cheaters at heart or because they want to even the playing field when playing other cheaters. The numbers are growing because of all the cheaters. Hey Mike, you want to start, I don't know, bringing some data with ya when you make these ridiculous claims? If one admin out two respond after this saying that like me, they don't cheat, will you be quiet then? And while you're at it... You may or may not have noticed this, but this isn't a forum, it's a listsrv, and adding a one line response on top of about 22K of misquoted and mangled crap is about the most useless thing a learned admin could do. There are people who get the digest of the list and when you make posts like you did it completely destroys any sense of continuity and needlessly bloats the digests. Not to mention there are people on the list who have metered usage, so downloading all these over-quoted responses does them no favors either. You're using Outlook, so take a look at the great program Outlook Quotefix at http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/. It'll automatically do things like strip out signatures and
Re: [hlds] 2 off the topic questions (apologies)
K. Mike Bradley wrote: Dude ... VAC ain't working at all now. Maybe there are no false bans but it only detects outdated cheats. If it is not working at all then how can it possible detect outdated cheat??? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] CS 32 player maps?
Mike, I have been running your 2 Beta maps for a week so far and have gotten some mixed reviews. Some comments have been posted in my forums. I plan on posting a review as soon as I have time to finish it. I like the Missle map... I would like to try it with a lot of players... http://www.paradisesgarage.com/mcweb/forums/paradise+server/2635.aspx The server address is: 67.93.155.120:27014 There are 3 maps in rotation: starwars2 cs_city_house_BETA de_missle_v2 Mike ParaDOX Munoz www.paradisesgarage.com -Original Message- From: K. Mike Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] CS 32 player maps? My maps have 40 spawns. www.mikienet.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DarK Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] CS 32 player maps? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can someone link me or give me a list of default maps that allow 32 player support please? Thanks, DarK -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] 2 off the topic questions (apologies)
Let me clarify When I said VAC is not working at all, I meant that it is doing nothing to stop hackers and cheaters because they all use the latest hacks including MyGOT. VAC will of course detect outdated cheats which no one is using anymore. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] 2 off the topic questions (apologies) K. Mike Bradley wrote: Dude ... VAC ain't working at all now. Maybe there are no false bans but it only detects outdated cheats. If it is not working at all then how can it possible detect outdated cheat??? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
Don't you be talkin bout my Moma! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Gabaree Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC Update? your MOTHER GAVE UP BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:22:08 -0400, K. Mike Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VAC hasn't been updated cause they gave up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manshun Tong Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? This is gettin off topic ? VAC hasn't updated in months... who do we contact for vac updating? From: CorpseHumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:56:01 -0700 (PDT) OK, I apologize for my earlier comments. I thought I was being flamed at a little, but I was mistaken. THIS person is lighting a real fire!! Wow... OWNED. Corpse --- Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, who crawled up your ass - mr. better than everyone, never played on anyone's server except his own!?! Some of us do happen to step outside into the light once in a while and play on servers other than our own. Bugger off loser. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Umm, the easy solution to that problem of blatant hacks is, Be the Server Admin. If you are not the server admin or a server admin, one has to ask what are you doing here? Original Message Follows From: Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 07:31:07 -0700 I have thus far refused to participate in the everyone hacks thread, but last nights CS experience has left me so freakin mad that I need to vent somewhere! I play only on a few servers, all West Coast. We definately have been visited time to time by super-good players, and very infrequently by someone with very questionable skills. Most of the servers are regulars so we know everyone who plays there and the regs usually pressure the hacks away pretty quickly. Last night I jump on for a few rounds before bed. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot - my whole freakin team dead, and all this within about 2 seconds of round start. A player named knife was using every hack imaginable: speed, aimbot, wall, everything! Typically when someone is this blatant, everyone will vote him off fairly quickly. Last night the regs were the minority and no one on the other team would vote against this guy. This totally pissed me off. I was cussing everyone out, and eventually started taunting the other players because they wouldn't vote against him. I really didn't get it. This guy would kill everyone on my team within 1-2 seconds and no one on his team would kill anyone. They wouldn't even get a shot off - how the heck can that be fun for anyone? But they wouldn't vote him off! One of my favorite servers ruined by a freak hack and loser opponents who obviously liked standing around doing nothing. wow. So there's my vent / rant / etc. Hopefully, VAC will continue to improve and somehow, somewhere, servers will become a better place to play. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy Lynn Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? K. Mike Bradley wrote: I said 3/4 have DL'ed and used cheats at least once in a while. 50% cheat all the time either because they are cheaters at heart or because they want to even the playing field when playing other cheaters. The numbers are growing because of all the cheaters. Hey Mike, you want to start, I don't know, bringing some data with ya when you make these ridiculous claims? If one admin out two respond after this saying that like me, they don't cheat, will you be quiet then? And while you're at it... You may or may not have noticed this, but this isn't a forum, it's a listsrv, and adding a one line response on top of about 22K of misquoted and mangled crap is about the most useless thing a learned admin could do. There are people who get the digest of the list and when you make posts like you did it completely destroys any sense of continuity and needlessly bloats the digests. Not to mention there are people on the list who have metered usage, so downloading all these over-quoted responses does them no favors either. You're using
Re: [hlds] CS:S Server Query
You need the latest version of qstat ( 2.6 ). Steve / K - Original Message - From: Xenos [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am currently running uglygs which uses qstat for other games. Does something need to be added to the qtstat.cfg for HL2? Can you show me where you are using it? Thanks! :-) This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC Update?
Erm... ok. they didn't give up.. they're workin on it.. im sure From: Rob Gabaree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:41:18 -0400 your MOTHER GAVE UP BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:22:08 -0400, K. Mike Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VAC hasn't been updated cause they gave up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manshun Tong Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? This is gettin off topic ? VAC hasn't updated in months... who do we contact for vac updating? From: CorpseHumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:56:01 -0700 (PDT) OK, I apologize for my earlier comments. I thought I was being flamed at a little, but I was mistaken. THIS person is lighting a real fire!! Wow... OWNED. Corpse --- Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, who crawled up your ass - mr. better than everyone, never played on anyone's server except his own!?! Some of us do happen to step outside into the light once in a while and play on servers other than our own. Bugger off loser. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whisper . Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Umm, the easy solution to that problem of blatant hacks is, Be the Server Admin. If you are not the server admin or a server admin, one has to ask what are you doing here? Original Message Follows From: Darren J. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 07:31:07 -0700 I have thus far refused to participate in the everyone hacks thread, but last nights CS experience has left me so freakin mad that I need to vent somewhere! I play only on a few servers, all West Coast. We definately have been visited time to time by super-good players, and very infrequently by someone with very questionable skills. Most of the servers are regulars so we know everyone who plays there and the regs usually pressure the hacks away pretty quickly. Last night I jump on for a few rounds before bed. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot - my whole freakin team dead, and all this within about 2 seconds of round start. A player named knife was using every hack imaginable: speed, aimbot, wall, everything! Typically when someone is this blatant, everyone will vote him off fairly quickly. Last night the regs were the minority and no one on the other team would vote against this guy. This totally pissed me off. I was cussing everyone out, and eventually started taunting the other players because they wouldn't vote against him. I really didn't get it. This guy would kill everyone on my team within 1-2 seconds and no one on his team would kill anyone. They wouldn't even get a shot off - how the heck can that be fun for anyone? But they wouldn't vote him off! One of my favorite servers ruined by a freak hack and loser opponents who obviously liked standing around doing nothing. wow. So there's my vent / rant / etc. Hopefully, VAC will continue to improve and somehow, somewhere, servers will become a better place to play. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy Lynn Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? K. Mike Bradley wrote: I said 3/4 have DL'ed and used cheats at least once in a while. 50% cheat all the time either because they are cheaters at heart or because they want to even the playing field when playing other cheaters. The numbers are growing because of all the cheaters. Hey Mike, you want to start, I don't know, bringing some data with ya when you make these ridiculous claims? If one admin out two respond after this saying that like me, they don't cheat, will you be quiet then? And while you're at it... You may or may not have noticed this, but this isn't a forum, it's a listsrv, and adding a one line response on top of about 22K of misquoted and mangled crap is about the most useless thing a learned admin could do. There are people who get the digest of the list and when you make posts like you did it completely destroys any sense of continuity and needlessly bloats the digests. Not to mention there are people on the list who have metered usage, so downloading all these over-quoted responses does them no favors either. You're using Outlook, so take a
Re: [hlds] CS:S Server Query
I found HL2 in the changelog for 2.6. Thanks :-) - Original Message - From: Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S Server Query You need the latest version of qstat ( 2.6 ). Steve / K - Original Message - From: Xenos [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am currently running uglygs which uses qstat for other games. Does something need to be added to the qtstat.cfg for HL2? Can you show me where you are using it? Thanks! :-) This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Kick and Ban on Source
For the life of me I cannot seem to kick or ban anyone unless I go through the process of typing out there name. Since steam ids are not showing up through status and kicking by userid doesnt seem to work, it is the only solution. Also, when attempting to name kick using rcon, if the individual uses the ` in their name you cannot do it since it will close the console. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] minor issues
First off, John, thanks for your help last night. Three minor issues. My source server runs on the same IP as my hlds; only on port 27035. On the client side, the 1.6 server shows up in Favorites, while if i manually add the source server, it does not stick in Favorites (i.e., exit, relaunch, gone). Not sure if Favorites has issues in general or if it's because they're on the same ip. In-game, if I try to rcon, it keeps trying to default to the 27015 port, and keeps giving a connection failed (of course). I tried forcing it with rcon_address but that didnt work either. Also, not sure if it's my ignorance, but I can't seem to buy weapons using the alias like in 1.6, ie., bind f1 mp5; primammo. Just some FYIs. Thanks, Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] New CSS Beta Server Patch = Mad Lag !!
I just updated my CSS Dedicated Server, and while it no longer crashes when full, now for some unknown reason all the pings go haywire up and down like a yo-yo. I mean like 4-5X normal pings. My Server never used above 20% CPU, but it acted like it was at 100% CPU and starving for more power. Weird, the previous version did not do this with the same player load. -- Cain Windows 2003 Server Dual Xeon 3.06 __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New CSS Beta Server Patch = Mad Lag !!
This is happening for us as well. The server might be using 2% of the CPU but everyone's ping is about 4 times what they'd get in a 1.6 server. Even with only 5 people in the server. -John - Original Message - From: CAIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 7:46 PM Subject: [hlds] New CSS Beta Server Patch = Mad Lag !! I just updated my CSS Dedicated Server, and while it no longer crashes when full, now for some unknown reason all the pings go haywire up and down like a yo-yo. I mean like 4-5X normal pings. My Server never used above 20% CPU, but it acted like it was at 100% CPU and starving for more power. Weird, the previous version did not do this with the same player load. -- Cain Windows 2003 Server Dual Xeon 3.06 __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New CSS Beta Server Patch = Mad Lag !!
Ditto here. -- david Original Message From: Edge100x [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New CSS Beta Server Patch = Mad Lag !! This is happening for us as well. The server might be using 2% of the CPU but everyone's ping is about 4 times what they'd get in a 1.6 server. Even with only 5 people in the server. -John - Original Message - From: CAIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 7:46 PM Subject: [hlds] New CSS Beta Server Patch = Mad Lag !! I just updated my CSS Dedicated Server, and while it no longer crashes when full, now for some unknown reason all the pings go haywire up and down like a yo-yo. I mean like 4-5X normal pings. My Server never used above 20% CPU, but it acted like it was at 100% CPU and starving for more power. Weird, the previous version did not do this with the same player load. -- Cain Windows 2003 Server Dual Xeon 3.06 __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Couple CS:S Server Questions
OK i have an more basic question. How do i use the hldsupdatetool to create my CS:S dedicated server? In other words how to i setup the hlds to run CS:S at all? I have it for CS1.6 and CZERO. [Original Message] From: Brandon Dumont - MWEB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/17/2004 2:28:00 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Couple CS:S Server Questions Still, knowing your using a config that's actually runnning on another server helps when trouble shooting. So I second a notion. Would somebody kindly give us an axample of a working config? Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo de Paula Bezerra Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Couple CS:S Server Questions It is very similar to your current 1.6 file. Ah, and cvarlist is your best friend now, as it not only show cvars/cmds, but shows a short description of their meaning as well :) On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 09:36, Xenos wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am new to the world of CS, so please bear with me. Can someone give me an example server.cfg file...this was not included with the server for some reason. Are there any current game query tools compatable with CS:S? Thanks! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds MWEB: S.A.'s trusted Internet Service Provider. Just Like That. To join, go to: http://join.mweb.co.za or call 0860032000. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero
i am using earthlink [Original Message] From: Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/16/2004 6:20:33 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero Since you guys live in miami, may i know what connection you are using for your servers? i cannot find a reasonable isp. Thanks - Original Message - From: voogru [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero Hey, I'm in Miami too. :P -Original Message- From: Edson Sossai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero yes. we are neighbors [Original Message] From: Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/11/2004 3:48:50 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero Dude, your area code, you live in miami, you live really really close to me. - Original Message - From: Edson Sossai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero I would like to know if is possible to play CS1.6 maps on condition zero and if yes would the CZ bots work? Edson Sossai Phone: (305) 530-2412 Work (305) 481-7773 Cell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] minor issues
You have to use something like: bind F1 buy mp5; buy primammo This is the rest of the post by Zak and Robert: -- Ah thx a lot m8! 1.6 = (for example) bind f1 ak47; m4a1; primammo; weapon_knife without the buy oh man, so easy weapon_* out of cs:s ?? - Original Message - From: Zak Haque [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:11 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CS:Source and the Weaponbuy Almost identical to cs1.6 current buying aliases. For example here is my cs:source buy script (in my userconfig.cfg) // Buy Script bind F1 buy mp5; buy primammo bind F2 buy ak47; buy m4a1; buy primammo bind F3 buy vesthelm; buy vest bind F4 buy deagle; buy secammo bind F5 buy usp; buy secammo bind F6 buy primammo bind F7 buy secammo bind F8 buy awp; buy primammo bind F9 buy hegrenade bind F10 buy flashbang bind F11 buy smokegrenade bind F12 buy defuser bind INS jpeg // Done echo Config Loaded Successfully I hope you have fun making your own :D - Original Message - From: Mike Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: [hlds] minor issues First off, John, thanks for your help last night. Three minor issues. My source server runs on the same IP as my hlds; only on port 27035. On the client side, the 1.6 server shows up in Favorites, while if i manually add the source server, it does not stick in Favorites (i.e., exit, relaunch, gone). Not sure if Favorites has issues in general or if it's because they're on the same ip. In-game, if I try to rcon, it keeps trying to default to the 27015 port, and keeps giving a connection failed (of course). I tried forcing it with rcon_address but that didnt work either. Also, not sure if it's my ignorance, but I can't seem to buy weapons using the alias like in 1.6, ie., bind f1 mp5; primammo. Just some FYIs. Thanks, Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero
steam -command update -game Counter-Strike Source -dir hlds_l That is from *nix, but its pretty much the same thing. You have to use hldsupdatetool instead of steam though. If you need help, just type hldsupdatetool. You will get a list of everything that you need. --John - Original Message - From: Edson Sossai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero i am using earthlink [Original Message] From: Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/16/2004 6:20:33 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero Since you guys live in miami, may i know what connection you are using for your servers? i cannot find a reasonable isp. Thanks - Original Message - From: voogru [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero Hey, I'm in Miami too. :P -Original Message- From: Edson Sossai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero yes. we are neighbors [Original Message] From: Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/11/2004 3:48:50 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero Dude, your area code, you live in miami, you live really really close to me. - Original Message - From: Edson Sossai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: [hlds] CS1.6 Map into Condition-Zero I would like to know if is possible to play CS1.6 maps on condition zero and if yes would the CZ bots work? Edson Sossai Phone: (305) 530-2412 Work (305) 481-7773 Cell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] 2 off the topic questions (apologies)
[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Original Message Follows From: Ooks Server [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] 2 off the topic questions (apologies) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:49:49 -0700 Actually false bans aren't really a problem in my opinion. Last time my friend was falsely banned he contacted valve through the steam website and they determined that he was indeed falsely banned, and removed it. And as far as I can remember, any mass false-banning that happened was always reversed, without any work of the clients being done. In all fairness to Valve, you don't hear as much about false bans these days. I attribute this to the maturity of VAC - IOW, they are getting their act together. I'm not saying that VAC is great or even good - just that it seems to be working better then it used to. ___ You have got to be seriously kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?! -- In the market for a car? Buy, sell or browse at Carpoint.[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENAU/2746??PS=47575 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
