RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-09 Thread K. Mike Bradley
LOL!
Easy ...
Count to ten and think of the quiet place.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chip Chapin
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:53 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Oh yeah?  Well listen smart-ass, I'm probably older than you and I'm
still deeply offended by your email.  And, and, mines bigger than yours,
and, and I can frag better too, yeah that's it.  And in a coon's age
too.  So there!

Darn, I forgot to misspell every other word...

K. Mike Bradley wrote:

>LOL a thousand times at all the guys on this list
>
>Ya know I got to point out how every spring when young men's hormones start
>flowing how flaming runs rampant.
>It's like a bunch of bulls in the field.
>The slightest perceived infraction and "That's it! It's on now!".
>
>You can really tell the young ones from the older ones like me.
>
>
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-09 Thread K. Mike Bradley
That's true but most of the hot heads are in the northern Hemisphere.



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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

 K. Mike Bradley suggested that the flaming has started to occur
because it was spring.

I was just pointing out that it is not necessarily spring everywhere
else on the planet, thus the joke.

On Apr 9, 2005 3:25 AM, Napier, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ?huh?
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:40 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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>
> Because you don't leave people the choice how they work with their emails
;)
>
> On Apr 7, 2005 8:37 PM, Napier, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-08 Thread Chip Chapin
Oh yeah?  Well listen smart-ass, I'm probably older than you and I'm
still deeply offended by your email.  And, and, mines bigger than yours,
and, and I can frag better too, yeah that's it.  And in a coon's age
too.  So there!
Darn, I forgot to misspell every other word...
K. Mike Bradley wrote:
LOL a thousand times at all the guys on this list
Ya know I got to point out how every spring when young men's hormones start
flowing how flaming runs rampant.
It's like a bunch of bulls in the field.
The slightest perceived infraction and "That's it! It's on now!".
You can really tell the young ones from the older ones like me.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:07 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
Don't blame the software as its clearly the bod behind the
keyboard at fault.
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From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

because.
this...X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-08 Thread Whisper
 K. Mike Bradley suggested that the flaming has started to occur
because it was spring.

I was just pointing out that it is not necessarily spring everywhere
else on the planet, thus the joke.

On Apr 9, 2005 3:25 AM, Napier, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ?huh?
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:40 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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>
> Because you don't leave people the choice how they work with their emails ;)
>
> On Apr 7, 2005 8:37 PM, Napier, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why don't you leave my choice of which mail reader I use up to me.
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-08 Thread Mikee
ROFLthat made me laughThanks!
- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

It's Autumn in the Southern Hemisphere
A worldwide survey was conducted by the UN. The only question asked
was:"Would you please give your honest opinion about solutions to the
food shortage in the rest of the world?"
The survey was a huge failure...
In Africa they didn't know what "food" meant.
In Eastern Europe they didn't know what "honest" meant.
In Western Europe they didn't know what "shortage" meant.
In China they didn't know what "opinion" meant.
In the Middle East they didn't know what "solution" meant.
In South America they didn't know what "please" meant.
And in the USA they didn't know what "the rest of the world" meant
On Apr 9, 2005 1:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
LOL a thousand times at all the guys on this list
Ya know I got to point out how every spring when young men's hormones
start
flowing how flaming runs rampant.
It's like a bunch of bulls in the field.
The slightest perceived infraction and "That's it! It's on now!".
You can really tell the young ones from the older ones like me.
-Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:07 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
Don't blame the software as its clearly the bod behind the
keyboard at fault.
- Original Message -
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> because.
>
> this...X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-08 Thread Napier, Kevin
?huh?

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Because you don't leave people the choice how they work with their emails ;)

On Apr 7, 2005 8:37 PM, Napier, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-08 Thread Whisper
It's Autumn in the Southern Hemisphere

A worldwide survey was conducted by the UN. The only question asked
was:"Would you please give your honest opinion about solutions to the
food shortage in the rest of the world?"
The survey was a huge failure...
In Africa they didn't know what "food" meant.
In Eastern Europe they didn't know what "honest" meant.
In Western Europe they didn't know what "shortage" meant.
In China they didn't know what "opinion" meant.
In the Middle East they didn't know what "solution" meant.
In South America they didn't know what "please" meant.
And in the USA they didn't know what "the rest of the world" meant

On Apr 9, 2005 1:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LOL a thousand times at all the guys on this list
>
> Ya know I got to point out how every spring when young men's hormones start
> flowing how flaming runs rampant.
> It's like a bunch of bulls in the field.
> The slightest perceived infraction and "That's it! It's on now!".
>
> You can really tell the young ones from the older ones like me.
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:07 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> Don't blame the software as its clearly the bod behind the
> keyboard at fault.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > because.
> >
> > this...X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
> >  isn't really a good one for mailinglists ;)
>
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-08 Thread K. Mike Bradley
WOW!
You mean I was right?

Thanks Mikie!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:34 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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Totally OT:  That's cool...I can understand the interpretation.  Just out of
curiosity, I looked up the origin of the expression:

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcoonsage.html

For the record, when I post my rants about HL2 not being updated (the same
way OP4 was NEVER updated by Valve--despite numerous promises for years to
do so), it is because I run three busy servers, and I have to deal with all
the bugs causing crashes, hacks, cheats, map errors.forget trying to run
many custom maps in Linux, because at least half of them have some error
that even experienced mappers have not been able to tell anyone what
specifically is causing it.

In my mind, these are Valve related bugs that affect my ability to run the
game servers properly.

So just bug off you mindless Counterstrikers...it does us
neglected HL2-DM server admins good to rant once in a while...not that it
seems to do us any good as far as Valve is concernedbut we feel better
emotionally.



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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-08 Thread K. Mike Bradley
LOL a thousand times at all the guys on this list

Ya know I got to point out how every spring when young men's hormones start
flowing how flaming runs rampant.
It's like a bunch of bulls in the field.
The slightest perceived infraction and "That's it! It's on now!".

You can really tell the young ones from the older ones like me.



-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:07 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Don't blame the software as its clearly the bod behind the
keyboard at fault.

- Original Message -
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> because.
>
> this...X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-08 Thread Kyrios
Because you don't leave people the choice how they work with their emails ;)

On Apr 7, 2005 8:37 PM, Napier, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why don't you leave my choice of which mail reader I use up to me.
> Thanks.
>
>
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> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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>
> because.
>
> this...X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Mikee
Totally OT:  That's cool...I can understand the interpretation.  Just out of
curiosity, I looked up the origin of the expression:
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcoonsage.html
For the record, when I post my rants about HL2 not being updated (the same
way OP4 was NEVER updated by Valve--despite numerous promises for years to
do so), it is because I run three busy servers, and I have to deal with all
the bugs causing crashes, hacks, cheats, map errors.forget trying to run
many custom maps in Linux, because at least half of them have some error
that even experienced mappers have not been able to tell anyone what
specifically is causing it.
In my mind, these are Valve related bugs that affect my ability to run the
game servers properly.
So just bug off you mindless Counterstrikers...it does us
neglected HL2-DM server admins good to rant once in a while...not that it
seems to do us any good as far as Valve is concernedbut we feel better
emotionally.
- Original Message -
From: "Ryan Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Apologies, I've always interpreted this as a racial slur, and many
people I know would probably say the same.
I'm resident in the UK, where of course, we don't have raccoons. Suppose
I've just interpreted with the only meaning we could muster from it.
Regards,
Ryan Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley
Sent: 07 April 2005 15:51
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
The phrase "in a coon's age" is referring to a raccoon.
The little rodent family animal with the bandit's mask on his face.
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Ryan Lewis
Apologies, I've always interpreted this as a racial slur, and many
people I know would probably say the same.

I'm resident in the UK, where of course, we don't have raccoons. Suppose
I've just interpreted with the only meaning we could muster from it.

Regards,

Ryan Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Sent: 07 April 2005 15:51
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


The phrase "in a coon's age" is referring to a raccoon.

The little rodent family animal with the bandit's mask on his face.


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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Napier, Kevin
Why don't you leave my choice of which mail reader I use up to me.
Thanks.


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because.


this...X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread ironchef
Kyrios wrote:
> because.
>
>
> this...X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
>  isn't really a good one for mailinglists ;)

It's actually just as good at lists as gmail. But, in addition to just
wasting space, you're also doing a great disservice to people who get
the digests by including all that cruft.

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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Steven Hartland
Don't blame the software as its clearly the bod behind the
keyboard at fault.
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Kyrios
because.


this...X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
 isn't really a good one for mailinglists ;)

On Apr 7, 2005 7:57 PM, Kyrios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2005 7:50 PM, ironchef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Napier, Kevin wrote:
> > > Maybe he is better then you?  :--)  (joke! laugh god damit.. it's a
> > > game)
> >
> > Trim your messages, god damnit, it's a mailing list.
> Incase bandwith or traffic isn't your problem try using a better email client 
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Kyrios
On Apr 7, 2005 7:50 PM, ironchef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Napier, Kevin wrote:
> > Maybe he is better then you?  :--)  (joke! laugh god damit.. it's a
> > game)
>
> Trim your messages, god damnit, it's a mailing list.
Incase bandwith or traffic isn't your problem try using a better email client :P
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread ooksserver
Some people like chocolate ice cream, others prefer vanilla. I don't play
games for the realistic experience, team play, or social interaction. Screw
the team, if it moves, kill it. If it doesn't move, plug it just to be sure.
I'm number one! I killed *everyone*. Me! Me! I!

I personally despise round based games, and refuse to play them. This
doesn't make either of us right or wrong, it's just what we like.


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From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


> The whole point is that if you can die and have to wait the rest of the
> round on the bench, there is a real risk and it makes the experience real.
> Game theory goes into risk and reward.
> With Deathmatch there is no real risk.
> No team play, no social interaction, no organization, no strategy etc 
> I hate it.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:49 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's
legendary
> new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
> Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just
a
> tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields
their
> fortunes.
>
> For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
> Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
> always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
> and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.
I
> would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.
>
> In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
> reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have
taken
> that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which
it
> was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
> would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
> that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
>
> > For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
> > million playing it.
> >
> > So you know...
> >
> > On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >>
> >> look at the name of the list.
> >>
> >> It's a dedicated server list.
> >>
> >> Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
> >>
> >> On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I
> >> > forgot
> >> > that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
> >> relate
> >> > to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my
> >> > rant.
> >> > Valve already does.
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >> >
> >> > >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the
wrong
> >> > > place for that.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that
has
> >> > >> not
> >> > >> been
> >> > >> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >>
>
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perp
> >> age=15&pagenumber=1

RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread ironchef
Napier, Kevin wrote:
> Maybe he is better then you?  :--)  (joke! laugh god damit.. it's a
> game)

Trim your messages, god damnit, it's a mailing list.

--
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread K. Mike Bradley
This HLDS list has always been the place for these kind of discussions.
The fact that several of us are still talking about it shows it is relevant.
It's not like there's a lot of activity here at the moment.

Do what I do and set your email client to sort and stuff all mail for a
particular list into a folder.
I am a member of 20 lists right now and if I don't want to read the mail for
a list I go into it and delete all.





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:31 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

the whole point is that _this_ is a mailinglist for Halflife and
hallife2 (including all mods) _->>>>dedicated servers<<<-_

_NOT_ about the games, the strategy and not about the last oscar awards

if u please could use a different mailinglist or forum for that. If
you need support creating a forum or mailinglist email me.


On Apr 7, 2005 7:23 PM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But we are ...
> Look at our scores.
>
> LOL!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mason
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> Thanks for your clarification on "a coon's age" - but your posts still
smack
> of "I am better than you."
>
> You will also notice that Valve's legendary new game which was released
was
> called Half-Life 2 NOT HL2DM! HL2DM and CS:S (yes they had a new name for
> this as well) were both released at the same time for everyone's
enjoyment.
> Some of us prefer one over the other for many different reasons. It
doesn't
> make your preference any better than the next guys.
>
> Quit wasting list space with your meaningless banter.
>
> That being said, Valve, we would like to see some more updates to HL2DM.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's
legendary
> new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
> Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just
a
> tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields
their
> fortunes.
>
> For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
> Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
> always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
> and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.
I
> would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.
>
> In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
> reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have
taken
> that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which
it
> was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
> would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
> that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> > For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
> > million playing it.
> >
> > So you know...
> >
> > On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >>
> >> look at the name of the list.
> >>
> >> It's a dedicated server list.
> >>
> >> Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
> >>
> >> On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I
> >> > forgot
> >> > that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
> >> relate
> >> > to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my

RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Darren Mason
Wow. Read my post. I offered up the fact this list is for >>>>servers<<<<<
of all kinds, not just CS:S AND I included a request for valve to fix HL2DM
as well. The meaningless banter is your friend's novel about how much better
HL2DM is than CS:S.

I love playing both these games AND yes I agree HL2DM is "neglected" in a
sense (as compared to CS:S). I am sure everyone realizes this is strictly a
business decision on Valve's part to focus on the games which have more
users.

Again, Valve, please fix HL2DM - this is a great game!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phoenix
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:31 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Meaningless banter to you maybe, but not for all of us. I happen to agree
with everything he said. The updates always seem to be for CS. HL2DM has so
many bugs and yet it seems to be always ignored.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this is the dedicated server mailing list.
Where else should we post server problems? The steam forums are worthless,
unless you enjoy reading mind numbing responses. The earlier post from the
steam forums that Kyrios pointed out, is a very good list of some "Major"
issues with this game. The maps from the contest were promised to be
released a while ago... still nothing.

I have also made a few posts regarding possibly having some kind of
pre-match, restart rd, or even an option to choose which team you want to
join at the start of a team dm game, and I have only gotten one response.
The response I got said to use mani-mod... that is not an option for me at
this time. I just want to use a built in cvar for these things... just like
the ones available for all the other team games. Have you ever tried to
start a clan match on a team dm server? It is a pain in the @ss.

These are legitimate server issues that I don't think should be ignored, and
to my knowledge this is the only real place to voice our opinions or
questions.

Thanks


Message: 8
> From: "Darren Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:00:25 -0700
> Organization: Keynomics
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> Thanks for your clarification on "a coon's age" - but your posts still
> smack
> of "I am better than you."
>
> You will also notice that Valve's legendary new game which was released
> was
> called Half-Life 2 NOT HL2DM! HL2DM and CS:S (yes they had a new name for
> this as well) were both released at the same time for everyone's
> enjoyment.
> Some of us prefer one over the other for many different reasons. It
> doesn't
> make your preference any better than the next guys.
>
> Quit wasting list space with your meaningless banter.
>
> That being said, Valve, we would like to see some more updates to HL2DM.
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's
> legendary
> new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
> Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just
> a
> tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields
> their
> fortunes.
>
> For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
> Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
> always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
> and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.
> I
> would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.
>
> In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
> reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have
> taken
> that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which
> it
> was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
> would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
> that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
>
>> For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
>> million playing it.
>>
>> So you know...
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Napier, Kevin
Maybe he is better then you?  :--)  (joke! laugh god damit.. it's a game)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darren Mason
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


Thanks for your clarification on "a coon's age" - but your posts still smack
of "I am better than you."

You will also notice that Valve's legendary new game which was released was
called Half-Life 2 NOT HL2DM! HL2DM and CS:S (yes they had a new name for
this as well) were both released at the same time for everyone's enjoyment.
Some of us prefer one over the other for many different reasons. It doesn't
make your preference any better than the next guys.

Quit wasting list space with your meaningless banter.

That being said, Valve, we would like to see some more updates to HL2DM.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:49 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's legendary
new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just a
tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields their
fortunes.

For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.  I
would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.

In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have taken
that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which it
was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.

- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


> For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
> million playing it.
>
> So you know...
>
> On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>>
>> look at the name of the list.
>>
>> It's a dedicated server list.
>>
>> Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I
>> > forgot
>> > that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
>> relate
>> > to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my
>> > rant.
>> > Valve already does.
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>> >
>> > >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
>> > > place for that.
>> > >
>> > > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has
>> > >> not
>> > >> been
>> > >> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>>
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perp
>> age=15&pagenumber=1
>> > >>
>> > >> The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet
>> > >> alone
>> > >> reply
>> > >> to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike,
>> Counterstrike.
>> > >> There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the
>> > >> hell
>> > >> did
>> > >> Valve even publ

RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Napier, Kevin
Did I miss the oscar awards thread?  darn..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kyrios
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:31 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


the whole point is that _this_ is a mailinglist for Halflife and
hallife2 (including all mods) _->>>>dedicated servers<<<-_

_NOT_ about the games, the strategy and not about the last oscar awards

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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Kyrios
Sry if I missunderstood something.

In my eyes crying around ("Valve hates HL2DM") isn't a server discussion.

If it's really about server bugs, and not about missing maps I'm totally sorry


On Apr 7, 2005 7:31 PM, Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Meaningless banter to you maybe, but not for all of us. I happen to agree
> with everything he said. The updates always seem to be for CS. HL2DM has so
> many bugs and yet it seems to be always ignored.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but this is the dedicated server mailing list.
> Where else should we post server problems? The steam forums are worthless,
> unless you enjoy reading mind numbing responses. The earlier post from the
> steam forums that Kyrios pointed out, is a very good list of some "Major"
> issues with this game. The maps from the contest were promised to be
> released a while ago... still nothing.
>
> I have also made a few posts regarding possibly having some kind of
> pre-match, restart rd, or even an option to choose which team you want to
> join at the start of a team dm game, and I have only gotten one response.
> The response I got said to use mani-mod... that is not an option for me at
> this time. I just want to use a built in cvar for these things... just like
> the ones available for all the other team games. Have you ever tried to
> start a clan match on a team dm server? It is a pain in the @ss.
>
> These are legitimate server issues that I don't think should be ignored, and
> to my knowledge this is the only real place to voice our opinions or
> questions.
>
> Thanks
>
> Message: 8
> > From: "Darren Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:00:25 -0700
> > Organization: Keynomics
> > Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >
> > Thanks for your clarification on "a coon's age" - but your posts still
> > smack
> > of "I am better than you."
> >
> > You will also notice that Valve's legendary new game which was released
> > was
> > called Half-Life 2 NOT HL2DM! HL2DM and CS:S (yes they had a new name for
> > this as well) were both released at the same time for everyone's
> > enjoyment.
> > Some of us prefer one over the other for many different reasons. It
> > doesn't
> > make your preference any better than the next guys.
> >
> > Quit wasting list space with your meaningless banter.
> >
> > That being said, Valve, we would like to see some more updates to HL2DM.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:49 AM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >
> > Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's
> > legendary
> > new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
> > Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just
> > a
> > tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields
> > their
> > fortunes.
> >
> > For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
> > Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
> > always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
> > and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.
> > I
> > would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.
> >
> > In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
> > reference I made....I had not even considered that someone might have
> > taken
> > that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which
> > it
> > was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
> > would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
> > that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >
> >
> >> For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
> >> million playing it.
> >>
> >> So you know...
> >>
> >> On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> HL2DM is a dedicated server

Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Kyrios
the whole point is that _this_ is a mailinglist for Halflife and
hallife2 (including all mods) _->>>>dedicated servers<<<-_

_NOT_ about the games, the strategy and not about the last oscar awards

if u please could use a different mailinglist or forum for that. If
you need support creating a forum or mailinglist email me.


On Apr 7, 2005 7:23 PM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But we are ...
> Look at our scores.
>
> LOL!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mason
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> Thanks for your clarification on "a coon's age" - but your posts still smack
> of "I am better than you."
>
> You will also notice that Valve's legendary new game which was released was
> called Half-Life 2 NOT HL2DM! HL2DM and CS:S (yes they had a new name for
> this as well) were both released at the same time for everyone's enjoyment.
> Some of us prefer one over the other for many different reasons. It doesn't
> make your preference any better than the next guys.
>
> Quit wasting list space with your meaningless banter.
>
> That being said, Valve, we would like to see some more updates to HL2DM.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's legendary
> new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
> Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just a
> tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields their
> fortunes.
>
> For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
> Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
> always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
> and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.  I
> would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.
>
> In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
> reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have taken
> that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which it
> was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
> would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
> that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> > For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
> > million playing it.
> >
> > So you know...
> >
> > On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >>
> >> look at the name of the list.
> >>
> >> It's a dedicated server list.
> >>
> >> Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
> >>
> >> On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I
> >> > forgot
> >> > that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
> >> relate
> >> > to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my
> >> > rant.
> >> > Valve already does.
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >> >
> >> > >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
> >> > > place for that.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> &g

RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Phoenix
Meaningless banter to you maybe, but not for all of us. I happen to agree
with everything he said. The updates always seem to be for CS. HL2DM has so
many bugs and yet it seems to be always ignored.
Correct me if I am wrong, but this is the dedicated server mailing list.
Where else should we post server problems? The steam forums are worthless,
unless you enjoy reading mind numbing responses. The earlier post from the
steam forums that Kyrios pointed out, is a very good list of some "Major"
issues with this game. The maps from the contest were promised to be
released a while ago... still nothing.
I have also made a few posts regarding possibly having some kind of
pre-match, restart rd, or even an option to choose which team you want to
join at the start of a team dm game, and I have only gotten one response.
The response I got said to use mani-mod... that is not an option for me at
this time. I just want to use a built in cvar for these things... just like
the ones available for all the other team games. Have you ever tried to
start a clan match on a team dm server? It is a pain in the @ss.
These are legitimate server issues that I don't think should be ignored, and
to my knowledge this is the only real place to voice our opinions or
questions.
Thanks
Message: 8
From: "Darren Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:00:25 -0700
Organization: Keynomics
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Thanks for your clarification on "a coon's age" - but your posts still
smack
of "I am better than you."
You will also notice that Valve's legendary new game which was released
was
called Half-Life 2 NOT HL2DM! HL2DM and CS:S (yes they had a new name for
this as well) were both released at the same time for everyone's
enjoyment.
Some of us prefer one over the other for many different reasons. It
doesn't
make your preference any better than the next guys.
Quit wasting list space with your meaningless banter.
That being said, Valve, we would like to see some more updates to HL2DM.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:49 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's
legendary
new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just
a
tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields
their
fortunes.
For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.
I
would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.
In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have
taken
that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which
it
was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.
- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
million playing it.
So you know...
On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
look at the name of the list.
It's a dedicated server list.
Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I
> forgot
> that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
relate
> to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my
> rant.
> Valve already does.
>
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the
> >wrong
> > place for that.
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> There are a ton of bugs and majo

RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread K. Mike Bradley
But we are ...
Look at our scores.


LOL!






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mason
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Thanks for your clarification on "a coon's age" - but your posts still smack
of "I am better than you."

You will also notice that Valve's legendary new game which was released was
called Half-Life 2 NOT HL2DM! HL2DM and CS:S (yes they had a new name for
this as well) were both released at the same time for everyone's enjoyment.
Some of us prefer one over the other for many different reasons. It doesn't
make your preference any better than the next guys.

Quit wasting list space with your meaningless banter.

That being said, Valve, we would like to see some more updates to HL2DM.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:49 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's legendary
new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just a
tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields their
fortunes.

For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.  I
would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.

In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have taken
that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which it
was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.

- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


> For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
> million playing it.
>
> So you know...
>
> On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>>
>> look at the name of the list.
>>
>> It's a dedicated server list.
>>
>> Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I
>> > forgot
>> > that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
>> relate
>> > to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my
>> > rant.
>> > Valve already does.
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>> >
>> > >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
>> > > place for that.
>> > >
>> > > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has
>> > >> not
>> > >> been
>> > >> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>>
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perp
>> age=15&pagenumber=1
>> > >>
>> > >> The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet
>> > >> alone
>> > >> reply
>> > >> to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike,
>> Counterstrike.
>> > >> There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the
>> > >> hell
>> > >> did
>> > >> Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just p

RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread K. Mike Bradley
The whole point is that if you can die and have to wait the rest of the
round on the bench, there is a real risk and it makes the experience real.
Game theory goes into risk and reward.
With Deathmatch there is no real risk.
No team play, no social interaction, no organization, no strategy etc 
I hate it.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:49 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's legendary
new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just a
tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields their
fortunes.

For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.  I
would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.

In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have taken
that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which it
was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.

- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


> For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
> million playing it.
>
> So you know...
>
> On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>>
>> look at the name of the list.
>>
>> It's a dedicated server list.
>>
>> Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I
>> > forgot
>> > that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
>> relate
>> > to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my
>> > rant.
>> > Valve already does.
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>> >
>> > >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
>> > > place for that.
>> > >
>> > > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has
>> > >> not
>> > >> been
>> > >> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>>
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perp
>> age=15&pagenumber=1
>> > >>
>> > >> The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet
>> > >> alone
>> > >> reply
>> > >> to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike,
>> Counterstrike.
>> > >> There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the
>> > >> hell
>> > >> did
>> > >> Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
>> > >> officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They
>> have
>> > >> not
>> > >> even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!
>> > >>
>> > >> - Original Message -
>> > >> From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> To: 
>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
>> > >> Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>> > >>
&

RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Darren Mason
Thanks for your clarification on "a coon's age" - but your posts still smack
of "I am better than you."

You will also notice that Valve's legendary new game which was released was
called Half-Life 2 NOT HL2DM! HL2DM and CS:S (yes they had a new name for
this as well) were both released at the same time for everyone's enjoyment.
Some of us prefer one over the other for many different reasons. It doesn't
make your preference any better than the next guys.

Quit wasting list space with your meaningless banter.

That being said, Valve, we would like to see some more updates to HL2DM.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:49 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's legendary
new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just a
tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields their
fortunes.

For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.  I
would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.

In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have taken
that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which it
was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.

- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


> For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
> million playing it.
>
> So you know...
>
> On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>>
>> look at the name of the list.
>>
>> It's a dedicated server list.
>>
>> Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I
>> > forgot
>> > that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
>> relate
>> > to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my
>> > rant.
>> > Valve already does.
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>> >
>> > >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
>> > > place for that.
>> > >
>> > > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has
>> > >> not
>> > >> been
>> > >> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>>
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perp
>> age=15&pagenumber=1
>> > >>
>> > >> The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet
>> > >> alone
>> > >> reply
>> > >> to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike,
>> Counterstrike.
>> > >> There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the
>> > >> hell
>> > >> did
>> > >> Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
>> > >> officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They
>> have
>> > >> not
>> > >> even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!
>> > >

Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Renzo Rosales
My favorite CS 1.6 map is iceworld because it's a small map and
everyone dies within a minute, unless two nubbies are camping on the
opposite side of the map behind a wall. It's a fast-paced map because
everyone picks up a gun that's available and starts shooting. I hate
going into regular servers where the round time is default (5 minutes)
and there are players on each team that camp the spawn area and wait
for the opponent to cross their path.

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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Mikee
Oh, I understand the realities...but I find it ironic that Valve's legendary
new game that was released last fall was called Half-Life 2, not
Counter-Strike 2.  You would think that a company would want to apply just a
tiny bit of polish from time to time to THE namesake game that yields their
fortunes.
For what it's worth, I do pity those many hundreds of thousands that enjoy
Counterstrike.  It is truly beyond me how anyone can enjoy the slow pace,
always starting back at the home base, buying the same crap over and over,
and waiting, waiting, waiting for the round to end so you can play again.  I
would rather have a series of root canals so at least I know I'm alive.
In the other recent post, where someone clarified the "in a coon's age"
reference I madeI had not even considered that someone might have taken
that common colloquial expression as a racially insensitive remark, which it
was not.  As far as I know, it always has meant of a racoon agewhich
would be an interesting origin to track down where it came from.  I doubt
that racoons live extraordinarily long lives.
- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
million playing it.
So you know...
On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
look at the name of the list.
It's a dedicated server list.
Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I
> forgot
> that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
relate
> to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my
> rant.
> Valve already does.
>
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
> > place for that.
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has
> >> not
> >> been
> >> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
> >>
> >>
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perp
age=15&pagenumber=1
> >>
> >> The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet
> >> alone
> >> reply
> >> to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike,
Counterstrike.
> >> There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the
> >> hell
> >> did
> >> Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
> >> officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They
have
> >> not
> >> even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
> >> Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >>
> >> > Alfred,
> >> >
> >> > Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like
keys
> >> > and
> >> > other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a
> >> > mile
> >> > away.
> >> >
> >> > The human team has a much stealthier walk.
> >> >
> >> > Something must be done please.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ___
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Whisper
For good or for worse for every 1000 people who hate CS, there are a
million playing it.

So you know...

On Apr 8, 2005 12:52 AM, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> look at the name of the list.
>
> It's a dedicated server list.
>
> Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!
>
> On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I forgot
> > that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
> relate
> > to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my rant.
> > Valve already does.
> >
> > 
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >
> > >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
> > > place for that.
> > >
> > > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has not
> > >> been
> > >> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
> > >>
> > >>
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perp
> age=15&pagenumber=1
> > >>
> > >> The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet alone
> > >> reply
> > >> to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike,
> Counterstrike.
> > >> There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the hell
> > >> did
> > >> Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
> > >> officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They
> have
> > >> not
> > >> even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
> > >> Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> > >>
> > >> > Alfred,
> > >> >
> > >> > Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.
> > >> >
> > >> > Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like
> keys
> > >> > and
> > >> > other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a mile
> > >> > away.
> > >> >
> > >> > The human team has a much stealthier walk.
> > >> >
> > >> > Something must be done please.
> > >> >
> > >> >
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread K. Mike Bradley
The phrase "in a coon's age" is referring to a raccoon.

The little rodent family animal with the bandit's mask on his face.






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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:03 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

I hardly post on this mailing list anymore, but after reading this email
I had to comment.

If at all possible, would people please stick to clean discussion.
Heated (but justified) discussion I of course welcome with open arms,
but I think I'm speaking on the behalf of others when I say that
language as seen in this post is unacceptable and unwelcome in any
community, nevermind this one.

In a faceless medium such as the internet, it becomes even more apparent
then reality that racial slurs are not necessary. A mailing list about
the administration of gaming servers doesn't require the use of words
like "coon" to make something stick out.

Sorry to those that have - for whatever reason - objected to this post.
If you do object, email me privately instead of trying to duke it out
publicly.

Here's hoping this post improves things here.

Regards,

Ryan Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
Sent: 07 April 2005 00:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has not
been
updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&;
perpage=15&pagenumber=1

The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet alone
reply
to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike, Counterstrike.
There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the hell
did
Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They have
not
even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!

- Original Message -
From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


> Alfred,
>
> Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.
>
> Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like
keys
> and
> other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a mile
away.
>
> The human team has a much stealthier walk.
>
> Something must be done please.
>
>
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread K. Mike Bradley
HL2DM is a dedicated server game just like CS et al ...



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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:37 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

look at the name of the list.

It's a dedicated server list.

Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!

On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I forgot
> that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they
relate
> to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my rant.
> Valve already does.
>
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
> > place for that.
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has not
> >> been
> >> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
> >>
> >>
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perp
age=15&pagenumber=1
> >>
> >> The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet alone
> >> reply
> >> to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike,
Counterstrike.
> >> There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the hell
> >> did
> >> Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
> >> officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They
have
> >> not
> >> even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
> >> Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >>
> >> > Alfred,
> >> >
> >> > Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like
keys
> >> > and
> >> > other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a mile
> >> > away.
> >> >
> >> > The human team has a much stealthier walk.
> >> >
> >> > Something must be done please.
> >> >
> >> >
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Napier, Kevin
Actually I thought your rant was in the right place... we rant about everything 
else.. why not hl2dm..lol  Hell the rants keep this place entertaining.  
(though the shouting matches we can do without)



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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:41 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I forgot
that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they relate
to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my rant.
Valve already does.



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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-07 Thread Kyrios
look at the name of the list.

It's a dedicated server list.

Not HLDM or CS or whatever. Just server!

On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I forgot
> that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they relate
> to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my rant.
> Valve already does.
>
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> >I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
> > place for that.
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has not
> >> been
> >> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
> >>
> >> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
> >>
> >> The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet alone
> >> reply
> >> to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike, Counterstrike.
> >> There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the hell
> >> did
> >> Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
> >> officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They have
> >> not
> >> even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
> >> Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> >>
> >> > Alfred,
> >> >
> >> > Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like keys
> >> > and
> >> > other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a mile
> >> > away.
> >> >
> >> > The human team has a much stealthier walk.
> >> >
> >> > Something must be done please.
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-06 Thread Mikee
You are rightI just had to rant my frustration for a moment.  I forgot
that no one wants to hear about any problems on this list unless they relate
to Counterstrike, Counterstrike, or Counterstrike.  Just ignore my rant.
Valve already does.

- Original Message -
From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
place for that.
On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has not
been
updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet alone
reply
to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike, Counterstrike.
There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the hell
did
Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They have
not
even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!
- Original Message -
From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
> Alfred,
>
> Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.
>
> Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like keys
> and
> other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a mile
> away.
>
> The human team has a much stealthier walk.
>
> Something must be done please.
>
>
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RE: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-06 Thread Ryan Lewis
I hardly post on this mailing list anymore, but after reading this email
I had to comment.

If at all possible, would people please stick to clean discussion.
Heated (but justified) discussion I of course welcome with open arms,
but I think I'm speaking on the behalf of others when I say that
language as seen in this post is unacceptable and unwelcome in any
community, nevermind this one.

In a faceless medium such as the internet, it becomes even more apparent
then reality that racial slurs are not necessary. A mailing list about
the administration of gaming servers doesn't require the use of words
like "coon" to make something stick out.

Sorry to those that have - for whatever reason - objected to this post.
If you do object, email me privately instead of trying to duke it out
publicly.

Here's hoping this post improves things here.

Regards,

Ryan Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee
Sent: 07 April 2005 00:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has not
been
updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&;
perpage=15&pagenumber=1

The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet alone
reply
to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike, Counterstrike.
There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the hell
did
Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They have
not
even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!

- Original Message -
From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair


> Alfred,
>
> Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.
>
> Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like
keys
> and
> other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a mile
away.
>
> The human team has a much stealthier walk.
>
> Something must be done please.
>
>
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-06 Thread Kyrios
I don'T disagree with u guys. But this mailinglist is really the wrong
place for that.

On Apr 7, 2005 1:02 AM, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has not been
> updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
>
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
>
> The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet alone reply
> to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike, Counterstrike.
> There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the hell did
> Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
> officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They have not
> even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
> Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair
>
> > Alfred,
> >
> > Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.
> >
> > Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like keys
> > and
> > other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a mile away.
> >
> > The human team has a much stealthier walk.
> >
> > Something must be done please.
> >
> >
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Re: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-06 Thread Mikee
There are a ton of bugs and major problems with this game, that has not been
updated in a coon's age.  Most of them are listed in this topic:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248425&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
The forum moderators won't even sticky this useful topiclet alone reply
to any of them.   It's just Counterstrike, Counterstrike, Counterstrike.
There are thousands of players who detest Counterstrike.  Why the hell did
Valve even publish a HL2?  They should have just published a CS2 and
officially screwed HL2, so we wouldn't have any expectations.  They have not
even released the contest maps that were decided 2 months ago.  BS!
- Original Message -
From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: [hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

Alfred,
Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.
Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like keys
and
other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a mile away.
The human team has a much stealthier walk.
Something must be done please.
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[hlds] HL2DM inherently unfair

2005-04-06 Thread K. Mike Bradley
Alfred,

Valve needs to update HL2DM player walk sound effects.

Anyone who plays as a combine has a jingly tingly walk sound (like keys and
other metal gear would make on your belt) which can be heard a mile away.

The human team has a much stealthier walk.

Something must be done please.


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