Re: [hlds_linux] Server update hanging
Having the same problem here... lately we are also getting update updates looping -_-' Il 13/04/2011 11:20, Simon Gunton - INX-Gaming.co.uk ha scritto: Has anyone else for the last week or more been having issues with the steam update command hanging or running very slowly? Normally a full tf2 verify all take about 20 - 30mins to run through fully but currently we are having issues were servers are hanging on start-up due to the update command we run (with non verify btw) just sitting there not doing anything and currently annoying customers but we don't really want to have to remove the update line as it ensures there server is up to date. Cheers Simon Simon Gunton Support Analyst INX-Gaming.com EMail: si...@inx-gaming.co.uk Support: http://support.inx-network.com/ Tel: 01733 687699 This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender. Please then delete the email and do not disclose the contents to anyone. Any views or opinions presented in this email or its attachments are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INX-Network Limited ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update hanging
I normally open a new terminal session On the unix-server and open up iptraf. When you run the tool, iptraf will show the address of the server, just note that you will have to guess your way through. All i can say is that the port on the peer address is mostly the same as the usual hlds-ports (27023, 27031, etc.) /Chris Sendt fra min iPhone 4 Den 13/04/2011 kl. 19.21 skrev "Simon Gunton - INX-Gaming.co.uk" : > Might sound stupid Chris but how do I find this out? > > Simon > > Simon Gunton > Support Analyst > INX-Gaming.com > EMail: si...@inx-gaming.co.uk > Support: http://support.inx-network.com/ > Tel: 01733 687699 > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender. Please then delete the email > and do not disclose the contents to anyone. > > Any views or opinions presented in this email or its attachments are solely > those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INX-Network > Limited > > > -Original Message- > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Christoffer > Pedersen > Sent: 13 April 2011 15:04 > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update hanging > > Slow update is often related to which content server you are downloading > from. What's the address of the server you are downloading from? > > /Chris > > Sendt fra min iPhone 4 > > Den 13/04/2011 kl. 11.20 skrev "Simon Gunton - INX-Gaming.co.uk" > : > >> Has anyone else for the last week or more been having issues with the > steam >> update command hanging or running very slowly? >> >> Normally a full tf2 verify all take about 20 - 30mins to run through fully >> but currently we are having issues were servers are hanging on start-up > due >> to the update command we run (with non verify btw) just sitting there not >> doing anything and currently annoying customers but we don't really want > to >> have to remove the update line as it ensures there server is up to date. >> >> Cheers >> Simon >> >> >> Simon Gunton >> Support Analyst >> INX-Gaming.com >> EMail: si...@inx-gaming.co.uk >> Support: http://support.inx-network.com/ >> Tel: 01733 687699 >> >> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the >> intended recipient, please contact the sender. Please then delete the > email >> and do not disclose the contents to anyone. >> >> Any views or opinions presented in this email or its attachments are > solely >> those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INX-Network >> Limited >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update hanging
Might sound stupid Chris but how do I find this out? Simon Simon Gunton Support Analyst INX-Gaming.com EMail: si...@inx-gaming.co.uk Support: http://support.inx-network.com/ Tel: 01733 687699 This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender. Please then delete the email and do not disclose the contents to anyone. Any views or opinions presented in this email or its attachments are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INX-Network Limited -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Christoffer Pedersen Sent: 13 April 2011 15:04 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update hanging Slow update is often related to which content server you are downloading from. What's the address of the server you are downloading from? /Chris Sendt fra min iPhone 4 Den 13/04/2011 kl. 11.20 skrev "Simon Gunton - INX-Gaming.co.uk" : > Has anyone else for the last week or more been having issues with the steam > update command hanging or running very slowly? > > Normally a full tf2 verify all take about 20 - 30mins to run through fully > but currently we are having issues were servers are hanging on start-up due > to the update command we run (with non verify btw) just sitting there not > doing anything and currently annoying customers but we don't really want to > have to remove the update line as it ensures there server is up to date. > > Cheers > Simon > > > Simon Gunton > Support Analyst > INX-Gaming.com > EMail: si...@inx-gaming.co.uk > Support: http://support.inx-network.com/ > Tel: 01733 687699 > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender. Please then delete the email > and do not disclose the contents to anyone. > > Any views or opinions presented in this email or its attachments are solely > those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INX-Network > Limited > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update hanging
Slow update is often related to which content server you are downloading from. What's the address of the server you are downloading from? /Chris Sendt fra min iPhone 4 Den 13/04/2011 kl. 11.20 skrev "Simon Gunton - INX-Gaming.co.uk" : > Has anyone else for the last week or more been having issues with the steam > update command hanging or running very slowly? > > Normally a full tf2 verify all take about 20 - 30mins to run through fully > but currently we are having issues were servers are hanging on start-up due > to the update command we run (with non verify btw) just sitting there not > doing anything and currently annoying customers but we don't really want to > have to remove the update line as it ensures there server is up to date. > > Cheers > Simon > > > Simon Gunton > Support Analyst > INX-Gaming.com > EMail: si...@inx-gaming.co.uk > Support: http://support.inx-network.com/ > Tel: 01733 687699 > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender. Please then delete the email > and do not disclose the contents to anyone. > > Any views or opinions presented in this email or its attachments are solely > those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INX-Network > Limited > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update: details
Any plans to restore mp_logdetail for CStrike? -- david Original Message From: "Eric Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:45 AM Subject: [hlds_linux] Server update: details Here are the details for the server update the other night (below). -Eric == 1) Logging Logging has been updated as follows: The "log " command now turns on/off *all* logging. Once logging is on, there are three destinations where the information can be sent: a file, the server console, and UDP addresses. You can use "sv_logfile" and "sv_logecho" to toggle logging to a file and the console (they both default to 1). If logging is enabled and there are any addresses in the "logaddress_list", the logging information will be sent to those addresses. Typing "log" by itself will give you the current logging status and where items are being logged to. Here is a list of the changes: * Added "sv_logsdir" that determines the folder in the game directory where server logs will be stored. * Added "sv_log_onefile" that will log server information to only one file instead of a new file for every map change. * Updated the "log" command to support "on/off" as well as "1/0". * Updated the output for the "log" command to include the current status (logging or not) and if logging is enabled it outputs where the information is being sent (file, console, UDP). * Renamed "mp_logfile" to "sv_logfile" to be more consistent with the other logging cvars. * Renamed "mp_logecho" to "sv_logecho" to be more consistent with the other logging cvars. * Renamed command "log_addaddress" to "logaddress_add" to be consistent with previous versions of this cvar. * Added "logaddress_del" to delete an entry in the logaddress list. * Added "logaddress_delall" to delete all entries in the logaddress list. * Added "logaddress_list" to list the current entries in the logaddress list. * Added default port "27015" if port is not included in IP given to "logaddress_add" and "logaddress_del". * Removed unused "log_level" command. * Removed unused "log_udp" command (if the logaddress has entries and logging is enabled, the information is automatically sent to those addresses). 2) Kick * Split the "kick" command into two commands: "kick" and "kickid". "kick" supports kicking by player name. "kickid" supports kicking by userid or uniqueid. 3) Ban lists * Added the ability to load large ban lists. * Increased max IP bans (addip) to 32768. * Increased max ID bans (banid) to 32768. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update: details
Eric Smith wrote: Here are the details for the server update the other night (below). [Trimmage] Nice post, cheers! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server Update
Do you mean HLDS ->Server<- updates? They came 2 months ago. Some of us got this steam update yesterday, CET ~23.00 (22. sep.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 23.09.04 11:03:57: > > Weird i dotn get any updates > > > >From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [hlds_linux] Server Update > >Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:51:06 -0700 > > > >An update to the server browser was released yesterday that enabled both > >Source and HL1 games to be displayed in the same list. This update makes > >use of the server updated released 2 months ago. Make sure you have > >updated to this version via the hldsupdatetool. > > > >- Alfred > > > >___ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _ > Ontvang Hotmail & Messenger op je mobiele telefoon > http://mobile.msn.com/?lc=nl-nl > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server Update
Weird i dotn get any updates From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [hlds_linux] Server Update Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:51:06 -0700 An update to the server browser was released yesterday that enabled both Source and HL1 games to be displayed in the same list. This update makes use of the server updated released 2 months ago. Make sure you have updated to this version via the hldsupdatetool. - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Ontvang Hotmail & Messenger op je mobiele telefoon http://mobile.msn.com/?lc=nl-nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server Update
Alfred Reynolds wrote: We have released a new server update for both Counter-Strike and Counter-Strike:Condition Zero. This update is optional, to get it you need to run the hldsupdatetool ( "hldsupdatetool.exe" for win32 and "steam" for linux). Thanks :) Matt. (Just to show I don't always complain) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server Update
On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 06:21:20PM +0300, Mihai Badila wrote: > > a small feature, let us choose the radar background color. i personally > prefer black, much more contrast. i'm sure it's wanted by many. > > thanks, > mike Yup, I'd LOVE it, black with white dots please. Cheers, James. > > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 06:01:23PM -0700 or thereabouts, Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > We have released a new server update for both Counter-Strike and > > Counter-Strike:Condition Zero. This update is optional, to get it you > > need to run the hldsupdatetool ( "hldsupdatetool.exe" for win32 and > > "steam" for linux). > > > > We have also released the update via bittorrent, you can download it > > from: > > Win32: > > http://www.steampowered.com/torrents/win32_czero_hlserver_5032004.zip.to > > rrent > > > > Linux: > > http://www.steampowered.com/torrents/linux_czero_hlserver_5032004.tgz.to > > rrent > > > > (Note - These downloads include both the CZ and CS update). > > > > The changelist for this update is available from: > > http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=news > > And > > http://www.steampowered.com/platform/update_history/Counter-Strike.html > > http://www.steampowered.com/platform/update_history/Condition%20Zero.htm > > l > > > > - Alfred > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > > visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
Get used to it man, it's happening every update for a long time. I dunno but Valve should deploy much more content servers in Europe, specially on AMS IX (Amsterdam Internet Exchange), since it's the biggest peering point in Europe and most ISP's have are linked there, Colt, ALTER NET and Lambdanet would also be good options for deploying content servers, specially Lambdanet. [FAW]Terran wrote: -- Since the update (13 hours ago) only _half the number_ of server than before the update is running! It took me more than an hour to get my server up and running after the upgrade since the server wasn't able to login to steam and validate it's ticket... And I bet most of the admins aren't aware of this problem. And now I'm unable to login my client to steam... Dieter -- visit www.cs4us.de Public CS: 134.60.100.26:27015 -- [ Content of type application/pgp-signature deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
Pawel Dziekonski wrote: Hi, for 2 hours I cant do an update: Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation Logging in as '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 10 Failed to get valid content ticket Yeah I had this problem for about 6 hours. Don't kill WON any time soon please. My 1.5 server is still full 24/7. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
-- Since the update (13 hours ago) only _half the number_ of server than before the update is running! It took me more than an hour to get my server up and running after the upgrade since the server wasn't able to login to steam and validate it's ticket... And I bet most of the admins aren't aware of this problem. And now I'm unable to login my client to steam... Dieter -- visit www.cs4us.de Public CS: 134.60.100.26:27015 -- [ Content of type application/pgp-signature deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] We have files available for direct download on our servers. Should help some. C-Z - Win32 : http://www.serverrealm.com/win32_czero_hlserver_4282004.zip CS - Win32 : http://www.serverrealm.com/win32_cstrike_hlserver_4282004.zip C-Z - Linux : http://www.serverrealm.com/linux_czero_hlserver_4282004.tgz CS - Linux : http://www.serverrealm.com/linux_cstrike_hlserver_4282004.tgz Regards - Original Message - From: Martin Sprenger To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update > Updating 'HL base content' from version 4 to version 6 > Ran out of content tickets > > Connection Reset > > Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 > Connection Reset > > Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 > Connection Reset > > Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 > Failed to get valid content ticket > > Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 > Connection Reset Valve has more errors for us: Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' Version 10 Send Failure Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' Version 10 Failed to connect to 207.173.177.100:27032 Logging in as '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Failed to find Master AuthenticationServer How come that according to http://www.steampowered.com/status/status.html there is over 1,000 Mbps bandwidth thats available? Is it because Steam can't handle small updates(tm)? -- cYA! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I updated fine on all our servers last night about 1 hour after the annoucement, a total of over 20 servers, using STEAM. - Original Message - From: RiGo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update It seems everybody is connecting to Valve Content Server #10. :-) Martin Sprenger schrieb: >>Updating 'HL base content' from version 4 to version 6 >>Ran out of content tickets >> >>Connection Reset >> >>Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 >>Connection Reset >> >>Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 >>Connection Reset >> >>Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 >>Failed to get valid content ticket >> >>Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 >>Connection Reset > > > Valve has more errors for us: > > Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' Version 10 > Send Failure > > Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' Version 10 > Failed to connect to 207.173.177.100:27032 > > Logging in as '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Failed to find Master AuthenticationServer > > How come that according to > http://www.steampowered.com/status/status.html there is over 1,000 Mbps > bandwidth thats available? Is it because Steam can't handle small > updates(tm)? > -- > cYA! > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
It seems everybody is connecting to Valve Content Server #10. :-) Martin Sprenger schrieb: Updating 'HL base content' from version 4 to version 6 Ran out of content tickets Connection Reset Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 Connection Reset Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 Connection Reset Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 Failed to get valid content ticket Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 Connection Reset Valve has more errors for us: Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' Version 10 Send Failure Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' Version 10 Failed to connect to 207.173.177.100:27032 Logging in as '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Failed to find Master AuthenticationServer How come that according to http://www.steampowered.com/status/status.html there is over 1,000 Mbps bandwidth thats available? Is it because Steam can't handle small updates(tm)? -- cYA! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server Update
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Gustav Hejdenberg wrote: > I have missed all the topics regarding the server update becouse my mail > server is currently down. > > So my question is if there is some offline files to download to update the > servers or do I have to use the steam update tool ? Yeah, The original e-mail from Alfred read: "We have released an update for both Counter-Strike and Counter-Strike:Condition Zero on Steam. This release is a required update, you will need to use the Steam tool ('hldsupdatetool.exe' under win32 and 'steam' under linux) to get the update and then restart your server. We are also offering bittorrent versions of this update for hldsupdate tool users. You can download the updates from: Czero servers (includes the cstrike update, around 45mb) Win32: http://www.steampowered.com/HLserver/apr28/win32_czero_hlserver_4282004. zip.torrent Linux: http://www.steampowered.com/HLserver/apr28/linux_czero_hlserver_4282004. tgz Cstrike servers (around 10mb) Win32: http://www.steampowered.com/HLserver/apr28/win32_cstrike_hlserver_428200 4.zip.torrent Linux: http://www.steampowered.com/HLserver/apr28/linux_cstrike_hlserver_428200 4.tgz The changes for this release are: Counter-Strike: Condition Zero - New high-definition player models - New high-definition weapon models - New high-definition sound effects - New Buy Package system - Custom Mission Pack support - Updated de_stadium_cz - Updated de_dust_cz - Added solid radar option - Various other improvements Counter-Strike - Added solid radar option - Various other improvements - Improved flashbangs (will not cancel out other flashbangs) - Updated German localized files - Various other improvements All Steam Games - Improved game demo recording performance under Steam - Alfred" john ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
> Updating 'HL base content' from version 4 to version 6 > Ran out of content tickets > > Connection Reset > > Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 > Connection Reset > > Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 > Connection Reset > > Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 > Failed to get valid content ticket > > Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 > Connection Reset Valve has more errors for us: Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' Version 10 Send Failure Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' Version 10 Failed to connect to 207.173.177.100:27032 Logging in as '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Failed to find Master AuthenticationServer How come that according to http://www.steampowered.com/status/status.html there is over 1,000 Mbps bandwidth thats available? Is it because Steam can't handle small updates(tm)? -- cYA! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server update
It works atm... try now. First time i update dit gave the ticket error... Now it says HLDS installation up to date.. Without updating any files :) Grtz Rodrigo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arie M Sent: donderdag 29 april 2004 17:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Heck for the last 4 hours I can not update nor create user in new cs > server...e > - Original Message - > From: "Pawel Dziekonski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:36 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update > > > >>Hi, >> >>for 2 hours I cant do an update: >> >>Checking bootstrapper version ... >>Updating Installation >>Logging in as '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >>Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 10 >>Failed to get valid content ticket >> >>-- >>Pawel Dziekonski , KDM WCSS avatar:0:0: >>Wroclaw Networking & Supercomputing Center, HPC Department >>-> See message headers for privacy policy and S/MIME info. >> >>___ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > Updating 'HL base content' from version 4 to version 6 Ran out of content tickets Connection Reset Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 Connection Reset Checking/Installing 'HL base content' version 6 Connection Reset Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 Failed to get valid content ticket Updating 'cstrike content' from version 7 to version 9 Connection Reset Yes the update is rolling out just fine, also, steam users are very satisfied with the changes you've made to CS. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server Update + help if possible
you need to convert the time anyhow. may be time zone information should be added on time relared messages so that ppl would get alert of the time zone issues. chris Alastair Grant wrote: Wouldn't it make sense to give GMT times as there is an international audience? Alfred Reynolds wrote: Remember any times we refer to are relative to PST (Pacific Standard Time), so make sure to compensate for the timezone you are in. -- Wireplay Official http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
why don't you jsut put it in your motd. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update > According to the great words of Matt Judge: > > Alternatively, you could allow us to display our own banner to > > advertise > > our own companies and websites. > > That was my original suggestion several months ago, but apparently > Valve doesn't think the game server providers are a relevant part of > their community, so I was ignored. > > -Mad > > -- > "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a > proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." > > - Prime Minister Jean Chrétien > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
According to the great words of Matt Judge: > Alternatively, you could allow us to display our own banner to > advertise > our own companies and websites. That was my original suggestion several months ago, but apparently Valve doesn't think the game server providers are a relevant part of their community, so I was ignored. -Mad -- "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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On Friday, November 14, 2003 10:06 AM NZT, DLinkOZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this content originate from some distinguishable location? As a > GSP, > I'd rather block the ads all-together (via iptables, etc) than > potentially advertise a competitor on my own servers. > Yes, but the client would have to do that, not you. -Simon ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Does this content originate from some distinguishable location? As a GSP, I'd rather block the ads all-together (via iptables, etc) than potentially advertise a competitor on my own servers. - Original Message - From: "Alastair Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update > It's even more fun if you are a content provider as well as a GSP and > see other banners on your servers. One reason why I haven't setup a > content server; amoungst other reasons. > > Brian A. Stumm wrote: > > > I have no problem with banner adverts in the steam app but once someone > > starts connecting to the game server there should be no more advertising. > > I don't allow advertising on my game server including "check out > > http://clanx.com"; type gamer say messages. I don't allow people to post > > about their online beef jerky business (latest deleted advert on my > > forums) and I certainly don't appreciate my bandwidth being used for > > CONTEXT DOWNLOADS that state CONTENT PROVIDED BY (insert advertiser that > > is NOT me here). > > > > And my game community is non-profit. I'd be REALLY upset if I ran a GISP > > and was seeing COMPETITORX GISP adverts when connecting to and downloading > > content from my own servers... > -- > Wireplay Official > http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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It's even more fun if you are a content provider as well as a GSP and see other banners on your servers. One reason why I haven't setup a content server; amoungst other reasons. Brian A. Stumm wrote: I have no problem with banner adverts in the steam app but once someone starts connecting to the game server there should be no more advertising. I don't allow advertising on my game server including "check out http://clanx.com"; type gamer say messages. I don't allow people to post about their online beef jerky business (latest deleted advert on my forums) and I certainly don't appreciate my bandwidth being used for CONTEXT DOWNLOADS that state CONTENT PROVIDED BY (insert advertiser that is NOT me here). And my game community is non-profit. I'd be REALLY upset if I ran a GISP and was seeing COMPETITORX GISP adverts when connecting to and downloading content from my own servers... -- Wireplay Official http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server update
With the previous system there was a limit to the bandwidth clients could download from us, is there anyway we can uncap this so they can download the maps as fast as possible as it is now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: 13 November 2003 18:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Server update The CPU hit will be near zero as data is rarely compressed (only reliable packets above a threshold are compressed). If you want to try and quantitatively measure the difference, monitor CPU usage during client signon as that is when the majority of packet compression will occur. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > dual_bereta_r0x > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > This is for all large data reliable data transfers, so yes, > maps will be > > included. The options are 1/0, with 1 being the default > (and there being > > no good reason to turn it off). > > Quick question: What are the CPU impact using these additional > compression? You know, some of us still having casualities with cpu > usage, and now we are provided with another cpu "eater" function... > > What are the estimated compression ratio and cpu usage increase we > should get? > > > > > - Alfred > > -- > dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest > ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
I want to know when they will solve the age old: Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation Updating 'Linux Server Engine' from version 1 to version 2 Downloading: .\core_i386.so Downloading: .\engine_amd.so Connection Reset Every time an update comes out. They say the network will support it, but it never does. Perhaps you have to live in America. Although with a direct connection to WorldCom and Level 3 I would have thought it would be okish. Mad Scientist wrote: Great update :roll: I see the following improvements: - When a user is downloading maps and other CONTENT from my server, they are now mislead to believe another company is providing that CONTENT. Meanwhile, I pay for the bandwidth and somebody else is making money off of the marketing. I'm sure glad you fixed that banner slot. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server update
I have some good data from a group of beta testers I have been working with. Unfortunately I was called away to clean up after this recent cracker attack and so I haven't had the free time to look into this. It is still on my TODO list, I have been talking with INTEL about how to optimize the code for their CPUs. - Alfred > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:01 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Server update > > Hi Alfred Renyolds, > > Are there any eta on a update there are optimised for dual > exeon cpu?s and > saupports pentium 4 cpus ? > > We are getting better hlserver performance on the linux > binaries on a amd > chip. > Plz see other posts on this list. > > I have testet with a amd 2600, p4 2.8, exeon 2.4 singel and > dual, with redhat > 9.0, debian and suse, both with stabel kernls and with the > 1000mhz kernls > and with and with out plugins, the amd binaries are using > less cpu usages > than the intel p4/exeon(singel and dual) binaries. > > on this mailing list and a ton of forums on the net about > valve and hlserver > for linux there are triel and error tweaks there more or less > usefull for > getting a hlds to run smooth on a p4/exeon system with more > than one hdls > on. > > Plz put some energi in optimising the hdls engien for Intel > cpu?s P4/exeon > singel and dual configuration systems. > > best regards > Christian Ingholt > > >-- Original Message -- > >From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [hlds_linux] Server update > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:58:35 -0800 > > > > > >We will be releasing an update at 7pm PST (as part of our regular > Wednesday update timeslot). > > This release will require everyone to restart their servers. > > If you have "-autoupdate" specified on the command line of your server > you do not need to > >do anything, it will automatically update on level > change. > > This release fixes the "Invalid User ID Ticket" error amongst other > things (this is currently a problem only for windows dedicated servers > run from the steam games list). > > For the compl > >te list of changes go to: > http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=news&id=106868410653199800 > > - Alfred > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please > visit: > http: > >/list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server update
you guys might want to change the subject, so that valve actually knows what you guys are complaining about? ->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt Judge ->Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:27 PM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update -> -> ->I currently pay for my servers out of my own pocket. -> ->Surely, if people are downloading content from my server, using the ->bandwidth I am paying for, then I should be recieving money for any ->advertising that is being displayed. -> ->Alternatively, you could allow us to display our own banner to advertise ->our own companies and websites. -> ->My tuppence worth. -> ->Matt. -> ->Christopher Luk wrote: -> ->> the banner slot is a problem. VALVE develope the software, every one ->> knew for sure. but its not the current banner ad provider host the ->> server, or even paid for the server. one of my investors ask me an funny ->> question immediately after seeing that banner. "is your company being ->> sold to somebody else?", they also blame us for banner ad being sold to ->> others without acknowledgement, of course they don't know the details, ->> also none of them know about this list. we may need to withdrawn from ->> the HL business because of this issues, not even from the technical ->> point of view. investors doesn't knew many things, thats for sure, just ->> found it doesn't make sense why the server they paid for becoming the ->> marketing platform of others (may be potential competitors) and we have ->> no control of. ->> ->> VALVE people please help us reflect the situations. if HL2 continous ->> show this problem, we may have to keep out of it. ->> ->> i m sure its doesn't matter while banner ad shown for downloading steam ->> content from its own content server. but it shouldn't show up (or at ->> least let us have some control on) while people downloading maps or ->> resources from the servers we paid for something. we are also woking on ->> bf1942 recently even though we host CS since beta5. ->> ->> chris ->> ->> Mad Scientist wrote: ->> ->>> Great update :roll: ->>> ->>> I see the following improvements: ->>> ->>> - When a user is downloading maps and other CONTENT from my server, ->>> they are now mislead to believe another company is providing that ->>> CONTENT. Meanwhile, I pay for the bandwidth and somebody else is making ->>> money off of the marketing. I'm sure glad you fixed that banner slot. ->>> ->>> - Flaginfo still DOES NOT WORK in TFC. It's not like flaginfo is very ->>> important - it's only the main objective of the game. ->>> ->>> I'm too tired to test the other TFC bugs since I assume none of them ->>> were fixed. ->>> ->>> In other news, after being an exclusive HL server shop for four years, ->>> we know have UT2K3 and ET servers in test. They should provide a nice ->>> change. ->>> ->>> -Mad ->>> ->>> -- ->>> "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a ->>> proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." ->>> ->>>– Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ->>> ->>> ->>> ->>> ___ ->>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list ->>> archives, please visit: ->>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ->>> ->>> ->>> ->> ->> ->> ->> ___ ->> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, ->> please visit: ->> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ->> ->> -> -> -> ->___ ->To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list ->archives, please visit: ->http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server update
The CPU hit will be near zero as data is rarely compressed (only reliable packets above a threshold are compressed). If you want to try and quantitatively measure the difference, monitor CPU usage during client signon as that is when the majority of packet compression will occur. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > dual_bereta_r0x > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > This is for all large data reliable data transfers, so yes, > maps will be > > included. The options are 1/0, with 1 being the default > (and there being > > no good reason to turn it off). > > Quick question: What are the CPU impact using these additional > compression? You know, some of us still having casualities with cpu > usage, and now we are provided with another cpu "eater" function... > > What are the estimated compression ratio and cpu usage increase we > should get? > > > > > - Alfred > > -- > dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest > ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server update
There will be a TFC release later this week or early next week with this fix. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mad Scientist > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server update > > Great update :roll: > > I see the following improvements: > > - When a user is downloading maps and other CONTENT from my server, > they are now mislead to believe another company is providing that > CONTENT. Meanwhile, I pay for the bandwidth and somebody else > is making > money off of the marketing. I'm sure glad you fixed that banner slot. > > - Flaginfo still DOES NOT WORK in TFC. It's not like flaginfo is very > important - it's only the main objective of the game. > > I'm too tired to test the other TFC bugs since I assume none of them > were fixed. > > In other news, after being an exclusive HL server shop for four years, > we know have UT2K3 and ET servers in test. They should provide a nice > change. > > -Mad > > -- > "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a > proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." > > - Prime Minister Jean Chrétien > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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I currently pay for my servers out of my own pocket. Surely, if people are downloading content from my server, using the bandwidth I am paying for, then I should be recieving money for any advertising that is being displayed. Alternatively, you could allow us to display our own banner to advertise our own companies and websites. My tuppence worth. Matt. Christopher Luk wrote: the banner slot is a problem. VALVE develope the software, every one knew for sure. but its not the current banner ad provider host the server, or even paid for the server. one of my investors ask me an funny question immediately after seeing that banner. "is your company being sold to somebody else?", they also blame us for banner ad being sold to others without acknowledgement, of course they don't know the details, also none of them know about this list. we may need to withdrawn from the HL business because of this issues, not even from the technical point of view. investors doesn't knew many things, thats for sure, just found it doesn't make sense why the server they paid for becoming the marketing platform of others (may be potential competitors) and we have no control of. VALVE people please help us reflect the situations. if HL2 continous show this problem, we may have to keep out of it. i m sure its doesn't matter while banner ad shown for downloading steam content from its own content server. but it shouldn't show up (or at least let us have some control on) while people downloading maps or resources from the servers we paid for something. we are also woking on bf1942 recently even though we host CS since beta5. chris Mad Scientist wrote: Great update :roll: I see the following improvements: - When a user is downloading maps and other CONTENT from my server, they are now mislead to believe another company is providing that CONTENT. Meanwhile, I pay for the bandwidth and somebody else is making money off of the marketing. I'm sure glad you fixed that banner slot. - Flaginfo still DOES NOT WORK in TFC. It's not like flaginfo is very important - it's only the main objective of the game. I'm too tired to test the other TFC bugs since I assume none of them were fixed. In other news, after being an exclusive HL server shop for four years, we know have UT2K3 and ET servers in test. They should provide a nice change. -Mad -- "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." – Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
the banner slot is a problem. VALVE develope the software, every one knew for sure. but its not the current banner ad provider host the server, or even paid for the server. one of my investors ask me an funny question immediately after seeing that banner. "is your company being sold to somebody else?", they also blame us for banner ad being sold to others without acknowledgement, of course they don't know the details, also none of them know about this list. we may need to withdrawn from the HL business because of this issues, not even from the technical point of view. investors doesn't knew many things, thats for sure, just found it doesn't make sense why the server they paid for becoming the marketing platform of others (may be potential competitors) and we have no control of. VALVE people please help us reflect the situations. if HL2 continous show this problem, we may have to keep out of it. i m sure its doesn't matter while banner ad shown for downloading steam content from its own content server. but it shouldn't show up (or at least let us have some control on) while people downloading maps or resources from the servers we paid for something. we are also woking on bf1942 recently even though we host CS since beta5. chris Mad Scientist wrote: Great update :roll: I see the following improvements: - When a user is downloading maps and other CONTENT from my server, they are now mislead to believe another company is providing that CONTENT. Meanwhile, I pay for the bandwidth and somebody else is making money off of the marketing. I'm sure glad you fixed that banner slot. - Flaginfo still DOES NOT WORK in TFC. It's not like flaginfo is very important - it's only the main objective of the game. I'm too tired to test the other TFC bugs since I assume none of them were fixed. In other news, after being an exclusive HL server shop for four years, we know have UT2K3 and ET servers in test. They should provide a nice change. -Mad -- "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." – Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
Alfred Reynolds wrote: This is for all large data reliable data transfers, so yes, maps will be included. The options are 1/0, with 1 being the default (and there being no good reason to turn it off). Quick question: What are the CPU impact using these additional compression? You know, some of us still having casualities with cpu usage, and now we are provided with another cpu "eater" function... What are the estimated compression ratio and cpu usage increase we should get? - Alfred -- dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server update
Great update :roll: I see the following improvements: - When a user is downloading maps and other CONTENT from my server, they are now mislead to believe another company is providing that CONTENT. Meanwhile, I pay for the bandwidth and somebody else is making money off of the marketing. I'm sure glad you fixed that banner slot. - Flaginfo still DOES NOT WORK in TFC. It's not like flaginfo is very important - it's only the main objective of the game. I'm too tired to test the other TFC bugs since I assume none of them were fixed. In other news, after being an exclusive HL server shop for four years, we know have UT2K3 and ET servers in test. They should provide a nice change. -Mad -- "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux