Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread Alan Clegg
Better yet, why bother to respond if you are only going to add one line and
include all the other posts from the entire thread?  Please!

BTW, there is more than one way to make a server restart, one being a script
that restarts a screen when the sub-process exits, and another being to use
the -autoupdate parameter on the command line.

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[120 lines of cruft removed, one line of taunt retained]

 Then why bother with screen or this thread?

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread
Quoting Alan Clegg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Better yet, why bother to respond if you are only going to add one line and
 include all the other posts from the entire thread?  Please!

 BTW, there is more than one way to make a server restart, one being a script
 that restarts a screen when the sub-process exits, and another being to use
 the -autoupdate parameter on the command line.

 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [120 lines of cruft removed, one line of taunt retained]

  Then why bother with screen or this thread?

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I Include all posts so ppl that only see maybe one of the email's can understand
what the hell Is going on.Instead of just seeing your usless post.-autoupdate
only does just thatAUTOUPDATES THE SERVER.It In no way keeps your server
running.And also why even bother to chime In with useless bullshit? I was
actually tring to help him Intill his little well I dont really care cause I
use a control panel Man you know this mail list Is nothing but a bunch of
shit, And 99.9% seems to be little boys whom love to reply with more
BullShit.So enjoy all you little boys, Cause I wont bother to read any more of
this shit, Its too bad valve doesnt watch this more often because you Idiots
can't even try to help anyone, You would rather bitch and cry.

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RE: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread kama

Which should be the correct way of dealing. If you issue a quit or exit,
the program should report 0 as exitcode. And reading the hlds_run script
it checks if it 0 and then break out of the whileloop.

I think there is a restart command in the hlds that, hopefully, sends
another exitcode.

Test this:
First set the path
# export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
run hlds
# ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +map de_dust

Then type 'exit' in the game concole
# echo $?

run hlds_i686 again and then kill it with -9 'kill -9 pid#' from another
shell. In the prompt where hlds console is type:
# echo $?

the one where you typed exit should return 0 and the other one will return
anything but 0. my guess would be -1 or 255.

/Bjorn

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, doomed999 wrote:

 I have noticed that if I run mine in screen and run a exit or quit command
 through rcon it wont restart a new screen session and wont start back up.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Moore
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:40 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

 The source/half-life dedicated server have no idea if they're run in a
 screen session or not. That's not even a factor, just so you know. And
 it's also not a question of the server being out-of-date, it's just
 that the -autoupdate makes the server restart (and try to update)
 every time it receives the quit command.

 And yes, this is its own thread.

 On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Dagok wrote:
  
This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.
  
   No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?
  
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 It
  should.What Is the start up command line you use?
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread Craig Moore
Again, screen has absolutely nothing to do with the server
auto-restarting. Screen is just an environment for another terminal.
Trying to diagnose a problem with screen will fix nothing, as it's not
the issue. Screen is just a detachable tty. Not sure if most of you
guys open a shell in screen first, then start the server, or if you
start the server in the same line as the screen without screen opening
a shell, but either way the application inside has no idea it is in a
screen session.

Now that we've eliminated one thing, let's try thinking of other possibilities.

Also, to whoever said -autoupdate has no effect on whether or not the
server restarts... I run two servers. One that auto-updates, the other
that doesn't. When I do quit on the one with auto-update, it
restarts in 10 seconds. On the server without auto-updapte, it simply
exits. While its intended use may be to update the server, it may have
some extra functions. Perhaps it's so you can issue quit via rcon
and the server will update and come back online. Of course, Valve
doesn't tell us everything we might want to know about certain
functions, but we must be able to come to some sort of conclusion that
-autoupdate and the server restarting on quit are related.

-Craig Moore (ping)

On a side note, I'd appreciate it if you guys would quit arguing on
the actual list. The offender's e-mail address shows, and e-mailing
the person directly in a courteous manner will probably get you
farther than publicly flaming the person. Of course someone is going
to flame this, too, so feel free to e-mail it directly to me. I won't
respond to flames on the list.

On 11/28/05, kama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Which should be the correct way of dealing. If you issue a quit or exit,
 the program should report 0 as exitcode. And reading the hlds_run script
 it checks if it 0 and then break out of the whileloop.

 I think there is a restart command in the hlds that, hopefully, sends
 another exitcode.

 Test this:
 First set the path
 # export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 run hlds
 # ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +map de_dust

 Then type 'exit' in the game concole
 # echo $?

 run hlds_i686 again and then kill it with -9 'kill -9 pid#' from another
 shell. In the prompt where hlds console is type:
 # echo $?

 the one where you typed exit should return 0 and the other one will return
 anything but 0. my guess would be -1 or 255.

 /Bjorn

 On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, doomed999 wrote:

  I have noticed that if I run mine in screen and run a exit or quit command
  through rcon it wont restart a new screen session and wont start back up.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Moore
  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:40 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?
 
  The source/half-life dedicated server have no idea if they're run in a
  screen session or not. That's not even a factor, just so you know. And
  it's also not a question of the server being out-of-date, it's just
  that the -autoupdate makes the server restart (and try to update)
  every time it receives the quit command.
 
  And yes, this is its own thread.
 
  On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
Dagok wrote:
   
 This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.
   
No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?
   
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  It
   should.What Is the start up command line you use?
  
  
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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread Derek Evan Mart
* Eric (Deacon) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051127 14:11]:
 You must go into your mail client, create a brand new email from
 scratch, and then send in this question so that it is not part of an
 existing thread.

I feel I should apologize as I completely agree with his reasons for
sending this reply; although, I might have been a bit more tactful
about it *grin*. Anyway, I sometimes use an existing message to reply,
but almost always delete the In-Reply-To: header to prevent breaking up
existing threads. I was suprised to find this new thread where it is. I
don't like broken threads either, but I accept the fact that this kind
of mailing list community will have broken threads no matter how much
ranting I do. On that note, Why is it that Alfred is using an email
client that does not support the In-Reply-To header? *grin* Oh yeah, not
to forget my ever present griping about unnecessary quoted message
content... *grin*

Oh yeah, thanks for all of the useful replies. I didn't know -autoupdate
was what controlled this. I removed it from my script a few days ago.
Thanks again for the information. Learning something new everyday...

Best,
-Derek Filling up everyone's inbox with useless dribble Evan Mart

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread Derek Evan Mart
* Alan Clegg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051128 07:31]:
 Better yet, why bother to respond if you are only going to add one line and
 include all the other posts from the entire thread?  Please!

LOL, what have I started?

 BTW, there is more than one way to make a server restart, one being a script
 that restarts a screen when the sub-process exits, and another being to use
 the -autoupdate parameter on the command line.

To answer the original question. Yes, I use screen. No, screen doesn't
restart the server :), but I like the way you folk are thinking. As for
-autoupdate controlling this, I think restarting the server should not
be related to autoupdating. Perhaps a -autorestart flag in addition to
-autoupdate? I think it would be efficient and more useful to have them
as separate flags.

Cheers!
-Marticus

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread Alan Clegg
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Instead of just seeing your usless post. -autoupdate
 only does just thatAUTOUPDATES THE SERVER.It In no way keeps your server
 running.

Believe it or not... get ready for this... YOU ARE WRONG.

+--SNIP--
|  Weapon [sg550] is restricted
|  Adding master server 69.28.151.178:27011
|  Adding master server 207.173.177.11:27011
|  EVERYONE CAN BUY!
|  Connection to Steam servers successful (SU).
| VAC secure mode is activated.
  quit
|  Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 48
|  Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 698
|  Mon Nov 28 11:19:59 EST 2005: Server restart in 10 seconds
+--SNIP--

See that quit?  I typed it.  See that server restart in 10 seconds?

Here's my startup:

./srcds_run -autoupdate -pidfile srcds.pid -game cstrike -console +map 
de_inferno +maxplayers 24

If you have -autoupdate in your command line, the following happens within
srcds_run:

-autoupdate)
AUTO_UPDATE=yes
STEAM=./steam
RESTART=yes ;;

I state again: -autoupdate DOES restart the server when it exits.

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread kama

Did I ever state screen in my post? No. It has nothing todo with screen.

hlds_run is a startup script from valve. If it is restarting its either
one of the following:

A bug in valves script. It should break out of the while loop if quit.
Maybe change the break line to exit 0 instead.

hlds server does not send exitcode 0 when exiting, which in turn might be
related to plugins like metamod.

/Bjorn

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Craig Moore wrote:

 Again, screen has absolutely nothing to do with the server
 auto-restarting. Screen is just an environment for another terminal.
 Trying to diagnose a problem with screen will fix nothing, as it's not
 the issue. Screen is just a detachable tty. Not sure if most of you
 guys open a shell in screen first, then start the server, or if you
 start the server in the same line as the screen without screen opening
 a shell, but either way the application inside has no idea it is in a
 screen session.

 Now that we've eliminated one thing, let's try thinking of other 
 possibilities.

 Also, to whoever said -autoupdate has no effect on whether or not the
 server restarts... I run two servers. One that auto-updates, the other
 that doesn't. When I do quit on the one with auto-update, it
 restarts in 10 seconds. On the server without auto-updapte, it simply
 exits. While its intended use may be to update the server, it may have
 some extra functions. Perhaps it's so you can issue quit via rcon
 and the server will update and come back online. Of course, Valve
 doesn't tell us everything we might want to know about certain
 functions, but we must be able to come to some sort of conclusion that
 -autoupdate and the server restarting on quit are related.

 -Craig Moore (ping)

 On a side note, I'd appreciate it if you guys would quit arguing on
 the actual list. The offender's e-mail address shows, and e-mailing
 the person directly in a courteous manner will probably get you
 farther than publicly flaming the person. Of course someone is going
 to flame this, too, so feel free to e-mail it directly to me. I won't
 respond to flames on the list.

 On 11/28/05, kama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Which should be the correct way of dealing. If you issue a quit or exit,
  the program should report 0 as exitcode. And reading the hlds_run script
  it checks if it 0 and then break out of the whileloop.
 
  I think there is a restart command in the hlds that, hopefully, sends
  another exitcode.
 
  Test this:
  First set the path
  # export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
  run hlds
  # ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike +map de_dust
 
  Then type 'exit' in the game concole
  # echo $?
 
  run hlds_i686 again and then kill it with -9 'kill -9 pid#' from another
  shell. In the prompt where hlds console is type:
  # echo $?
 
  the one where you typed exit should return 0 and the other one will return
  anything but 0. my guess would be -1 or 255.
 
  /Bjorn
 
  On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, doomed999 wrote:
 
   I have noticed that if I run mine in screen and run a exit or quit command
   through rcon it wont restart a new screen session and wont start back up.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Moore
   Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:40 PM
   To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?
  
   The source/half-life dedicated server have no idea if they're run in a
   screen session or not. That's not even a factor, just so you know. And
   it's also not a question of the server being out-of-date, it's just
   that the -autoupdate makes the server restart (and try to update)
   every time it receives the quit command.
  
   And yes, this is its own thread.
  
   On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Dagok wrote:

  This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self 
  Eric.

 No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread m0gely

Dagok wrote:


Notice how this has it's own topic and is not using Re: [hlds_linux]
Confused Steam-IDs ?

This is in it's own thread, and that is what Eric replied to, not whatever
you are refering to being said in another thread.


No, it's not!

http://quake2.telestream.com/thread.jpg

You're using a mail client that ignores threads so how would you know?
Instead you probably have messages grouped by subject (or some hybrid
between the two) which is a poor attempt at threading.  In Moz, I have
the folders set to view messages in threaded form which receive this
type of email, while my normal email is just sorted by date.

If you want to turn your nose and just not care what people have to say
then fine.  But you're wrong saying it's in its own thread.  Eric wasn't
an ass at all in his original reply, so what's with your name calling?
This was the first list I ever joined and if it weren't for people
pointing out proper techniques now and then I would still be doing
things in a way as to brake a well organized system.  Maybe instead of
calling someone an ass for someone else you should let that person
decide if he might want to actually use the advice?

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-28 Thread Derek Evan Mart
* m0gely ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051128 13:06]:
 No, it's not!
 http://quake2.telestream.com/thread.jpg

I'm sending this to the list so that every knows why the link is dead if
my request is honored.

Please remove this image. I never asked to be an example on the internet
of what not to do on an email list. Then follow up by reading my reply
to Mr. Deacon. This thread should die a horrible death. Let it end.
Please.

Best,
-Marticus

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread aXeR \(AmmoBOX\)

Add -autoupdate somewhere in your start line,

Regards, Jon

- Original Message -
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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?



Hey, all. The console command 'quit' no longer drops out to a 10 second
restart routine. What must I do to enable this once again?

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread Eric (Deacon)

In a bold display of creativity, Derek Evan Mart wrote:

Hey, all. The console command 'quit' no longer drops out to a 10 second
restart routine. What must I do to enable this once again?


You must go into your mail client, create a brand new email from
scratch, and then send in this question so that it is not part of an
existing thread.

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread Dagok

This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.

Derek, have you tried the command Exit?  It should do the same thing as
Quit, so don't know if they are both broken for you.

As already stated, you may need to update your server.

Dagok



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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?



In a bold display of creativity, Derek Evan Mart wrote:

Hey, all. The console command 'quit' no longer drops out to a 10 second
restart routine. What must I do to enable this once again?


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scratch, and then send in this question so that it is not part of an
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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread
Quoting Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.

 Derek, have you tried the command Exit?  It should do the same thing as
 Quit, so don't know if they are both broken for you.

 As already stated, you may need to update your server.

 Dagok



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 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:00 AM
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  In a bold display of creativity, Derek Evan Mart wrote:
  Hey, all. The console command 'quit' no longer drops out to a 10 second
  restart routine. What must I do to enable this once again?
 
  You must go into your mail client, create a brand new email from
  scratch, and then send in this question so that it is not part of an
  existing thread.
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread m0gely

Dagok wrote:


This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.


No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread
Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dagok wrote:

  This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.

 No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread Craig Moore
The source/half-life dedicated server have no idea if they're run in a
screen session or not. That's not even a factor, just so you know. And
it's also not a question of the server being out-of-date, it's just
that the -autoupdate makes the server restart (and try to update)
every time it receives the quit command.

And yes, this is its own thread.

On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Dagok wrote:
 
   This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.
 
  No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread William Warren

I just noticed this as well.  I issued a quit command to my hlds and it
shutdown w/o restarting.  I am running inside screen and i have
-autoupdate set.

Craig Moore wrote:

The source/half-life dedicated server have no idea if they're run in a
screen session or not. That's not even a factor, just so you know. And
it's also not a question of the server being out-of-date, it's just
that the -autoupdate makes the server restart (and try to update)
every time it receives the quit command.

And yes, this is its own thread.

On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Dagok wrote:



This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.


No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?

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RE: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread doomed999
I have noticed that if I run mine in screen and run a exit or quit command
through rcon it wont restart a new screen session and wont start back up.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:40 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

The source/half-life dedicated server have no idea if they're run in a
screen session or not. That's not even a factor, just so you know. And
it's also not a question of the server being out-of-date, it's just
that the -autoupdate makes the server restart (and try to update)
every time it receives the quit command.

And yes, this is its own thread.

On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Dagok wrote:
 
   This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.
 
  No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread Richard Nelson
Craig Moore wrote:

 And yes, this is its own thread.


No, it isn't.

The first post with this subject has
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and that second message-id has the subject Subject: Re: [hlds_linux]
Confused Steam-IDs, which has nothing to do with this.

_Please_ stop going to an existing message, hitting reply and altering
the subject line when you actually want to start a new topic.

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RE: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread
Quoting doomed999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have noticed that if I run mine in screen and run a exit or quit command
 through rcon it wont restart a new screen session and wont start back up.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Moore
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:40 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

 The source/half-life dedicated server have no idea if they're run in a
 screen session or not. That's not even a factor, just so you know. And
 it's also not a question of the server being out-of-date, it's just
 that the -autoupdate makes the server restart (and try to update)
 every time it receives the quit command.

 And yes, this is its own thread.

 On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Dagok wrote:
  
This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self Eric.
  
   No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?
  
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 It
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it's just
that the -autoupdate makes the server restart

Your kidding me rite? Screen Is what restarts the server.If It doesnt restart
the server after 10 seconds when the quit or exit command Is run then you are
not runing the screen command with the correct paramters.


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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread Dagok

Notice how this has it's own topic and is not using Re: [hlds_linux]
Confused Steam-IDs ?

This is in it's own thread, and that is what Eric replied to, not whatever
you are refering to being said in another thread.
So stop trying to be the mailing list police.

Dagok



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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?



Craig Moore wrote:


And yes, this is its own thread.



No, it isn't.

The first post with this subject has
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and that second message-id has the subject Subject: Re: [hlds_linux]
Confused Steam-IDs, which has nothing to do with this.

_Please_ stop going to an existing message, hitting reply and altering
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RE: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread doomed999
I just stated what I noticed, I could care less because I use a game panel
for stopping and restarting servers

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

Quoting doomed999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have noticed that if I run mine in screen and run a exit or quit command
 through rcon it wont restart a new screen session and wont start back up.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Moore
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:40 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

 The source/half-life dedicated server have no idea if they're run in a
 screen session or not. That's not even a factor, just so you know. And
 it's also not a question of the server being out-of-date, it's just
 that the -autoupdate makes the server restart (and try to update)
 every time it receives the quit command.

 And yes, this is its own thread.

 On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Dagok wrote:
  
This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self
Eric.
  
   No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?
  
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well
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it's just
that the -autoupdate makes the server restart

Your kidding me rite? Screen Is what restarts the server.If It doesnt
restart
the server after 10 seconds when the quit or exit command Is run then you
are
not runing the screen command with the correct paramters.


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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread Richard Nelson
Dagok spewed forth:
 Notice how this has it's own topic and is not using Re: [hlds_linux]
 Confused Steam-IDs ?

 This is in it's own thread snip more crap


No. If you enable threaded listing in any decent mail client (not sure
if OE does threaded display?) it will show that message as a reply to a
message in a thread which has absolutely nothing to do with this one,
because of the message headers (even In-reply-to has that message id).

It's not me being list police, it's how email works. It is common for a
thread to change subject, so people will alter the subject to show this,
and mail clients will then continue following the thread, which is what
you would expect.

So please, do not hit reply to get the list address when posting a new
topic.

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread Eric (Deacon)

In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote:

Notice how this has it's own topic and is not using Re: [hlds_linux]
Confused Steam-IDs ?

This is in it's own thread, and that is what Eric replied to, not whatever
you are refering to being said in another thread.
So stop trying to be the mailing list police.


Maybe that's how it works in Outlook Express (Jesus, dude...seriously),
but in real clients you can sort by thread, identified by the headers
that accompany the message body.  Message body?  Headers?  Sound
familiar to you?  Anything ringing a bell yet?

When you visit the SteamPowered forums, do you open up a new discussion
by clicking Post Reply, enter different text in the Post subject:
field, and simply start talking about something else?  Do you reply by
clicking New Thread?  No, you don't.  And if you do, I hope you get banned.

Why you would resist such a basic bit of netiquette that takes almost no
effort?  If this is too difficult and technologically advanced a concept
for you, what must your servers be like?

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RE: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread
Quoting doomed999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I just stated what I noticed, I could care less because I use a game panel
 for stopping and restarting servers

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:59 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

 Quoting doomed999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I have noticed that if I run mine in screen and run a exit or quit command
  through rcon it wont restart a new screen session and wont start back up.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Moore
  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:40 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?
 
  The source/half-life dedicated server have no idea if they're run in a
  screen session or not. That's not even a factor, just so you know. And
  it's also not a question of the server being out-of-date, it's just
  that the -autoupdate makes the server restart (and try to update)
  every time it receives the quit command.
 
  And yes, this is its own thread.
 
  On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Quoting m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
Dagok wrote:
   
 This is it's own thread topic, so stop being your usual ass self
 Eric.
   
No, it's not.  Would you like a screenshot?
   
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  It
   should.What Is the start up command line you use?
  
  
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 it's just
 that the -autoupdate makes the server restart

 Your kidding me rite? Screen Is what restarts the server.If It doesnt
 restart
 the server after 10 seconds when the quit or exit command Is run then you
 are
 not runing the screen command with the correct paramters.


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RE: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread Glenn Shannon
Of course, next comes the debate about top-posting like this is friggin
usenet or something.

Meh.

Outlook 2003 displays the threads separately. This is its own thread in
Outlook 2003. I suggest you update your mail client so it can handle small
idiosyncrasies for you automatically so you don't get your panties in a bind
every time you check your mail.

Last I checked, Outlook 2003 IS a real client, but for that matter so is
its stripped-down cousin, Outlook Express.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric (Deacon)
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:39 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote:
 Notice how this has it's own topic and is not using Re: [hlds_linux]
 Confused Steam-IDs ?

 This is in it's own thread, and that is what Eric replied to, not whatever
 you are refering to being said in another thread.
 So stop trying to be the mailing list police.

Maybe that's how it works in Outlook Express (Jesus, dude...seriously),
but in real clients you can sort by thread, identified by the headers
that accompany the message body.  Message body?  Headers?  Sound
familiar to you?  Anything ringing a bell yet?

When you visit the SteamPowered forums, do you open up a new discussion
by clicking Post Reply, enter different text in the Post subject:
field, and simply start talking about something else?  Do you reply by
clicking New Thread?  No, you don't.  And if you do, I hope you get banned.

Why you would resist such a basic bit of netiquette that takes almost no
effort?  If this is too difficult and technologically advanced a concept
for you, what must your servers be like?

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Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

2005-11-27 Thread Dagok

Exactly what Glenn said.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: Glenn Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:05 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?



Of course, next comes the debate about top-posting like this is friggin
usenet or something.

Meh.

Outlook 2003 displays the threads separately. This is its own thread in
Outlook 2003. I suggest you update your mail client so it can handle small
idiosyncrasies for you automatically so you don't get your panties in a
bind
every time you check your mail.

Last I checked, Outlook 2003 IS a real client, but for that matter so is
its stripped-down cousin, Outlook Express.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
(Deacon)
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:39 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] quit - no restart, huh?

In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote:

Notice how this has it's own topic and is not using Re: [hlds_linux]
Confused Steam-IDs ?

This is in it's own thread, and that is what Eric replied to, not
whatever
you are refering to being said in another thread.
So stop trying to be the mailing list police.


Maybe that's how it works in Outlook Express (Jesus, dude...seriously),
but in real clients you can sort by thread, identified by the headers
that accompany the message body.  Message body?  Headers?  Sound
familiar to you?  Anything ringing a bell yet?

When you visit the SteamPowered forums, do you open up a new discussion
by clicking Post Reply, enter different text in the Post subject:
field, and simply start talking about something else?  Do you reply by
clicking New Thread?  No, you don't.  And if you do, I hope you get
banned.

Why you would resist such a basic bit of netiquette that takes almost no
effort?  If this is too difficult and technologically advanced a concept
for you, what must your servers be like?

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