Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
The Fool wrote: C'mon guys, i don't really understand it all. This is a linux server list, isn't it. I have to tell you a dirty little secret: i really hate hardware. I'm a software guy. I have working hw, if it not works, i call for an engineer. Why? "Beware the developer, who has a screwdriver in his pocket!". LKML guys would argue about your statement; I have doubts too... :-) -- Mariusz Zielinski ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
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Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:55:18 +0100, The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [SNIP] > Let me remind you: > The original post was about dial-up players on a CS1.6 server. I'm really so > sorry because of my failure on the example with my f*cking mouse, but can > anyone tell anything else for the lady who sent that post? c'mon, you're > like small-frame 14 years old kids with these posts, guys :))) lol... Well I think we've covered all three possible bases: Either Melissa wanted to host a server off of a modem. We all agree - don't be silly. -or- Melissa wanted to host a server with a bank of modems, in which case my answer applies about pppd. -or- Melissa wanted to host a server primarily for modem users on the internet in general, in which case the server settings provided by someone else are handy and possibly the high ping only plugin also suggested. Also the note that you can never fully remove the broadband advantage (nor stop them playing at all unless you have your own modem pool and use option 2) Did I miss anything? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
Just a quotation from the mail i've got from steam when i registered: "Welcome to the hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com mailing list!" Maybe it is because my poor english, but i wasn't plan to register on "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". If i did, please remove me from the list :D Let me remind you: The original post was about dial-up players on a CS1.6 server. I'm really so sorry because of my failure on the example with my f*cking mouse, but can anyone tell anything else for the lady who sent that post? c'mon, you're like small-frame 14 years old kids with these posts, guys :))) lol... The Fool ps.: I have a Radeon X800XT Vivo. Is this an advantage against S3 or Trident, or a handicap? :D Mariusz Zielinski wrote: Nelson Marques wrote: > If the other player has a low end mouse on PS2, then he will have > advantage over you, or you don't know that USB mice produce lower > reply rate than a PS2 ? Does your watch have a milisecond hand ? nope, but it's Tag Heuer, so I do expect it to be very accurate. But the main issue is still that combined with low end chipsets, specially VIA it does mean a difference in some cases. [...] and then again, I feel sorry for logitech costumers who use their lame drivers that have a huge problem with Direct Input. They can always drop using so called _dedicated_drivers_ because every usb HID device have to be compatible with HID standard thus resulting in proper and complete operation with default HID driver. Or ... or maybe Logitech is NOKIA* for computermice world ? By complete I mean every button working and not fancy flashing blue LED. Dunno, but they are the biggest mice manufacturer and world leader in the business (OEM and no OEM), and no, I use Sony/Ericsson, nokia has become too faggish except for the communicator series. Actually I do use Logitech, but not exactly because their products can outcome their direct competitors (mainly MS Intellimouse), just because their good costumer support and costumer care. I live in Europe and all I can say is that Romanel Sur-Morges costumer support is great and they actually care, they faithfully respect the warranty and comes with a funny thing, my old mouse got with the wheel broken after 4 years, they replaced with a new one and I asked just for information if the warranty would be from the start again, for my surprise they confirmed that any product replaced with a new one, comes with full warranty (according to european laws), try that with another supplier, for instance, microsoft sends you to get third party parts on your local dealer (happened to me when requested for glidepads, since mine were worn off) (the true path to become a 'mouse engineer'). It's a question of service above all, but their products are great. Honestly, taking the Mouseman series off, the best you can get is a intellimouse. - NOKIA phones are the best in being incompatible even with major standards - for example Bluetooth 1.1 :-) -- Mariusz Zielinski ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
C'mon guys, i don't really understand it all. This is a linux server list, isn't it. I have to tell you a dirty little secret: i really hate hardware. I'm a software guy. I have working hw, if it not works, i call for an engineer. Why? "Beware the developer, who has a screwdriver in his pocket!". That's all... I don't want to read dozens of posts about mobile phones, PS2 or AGP ports, and stuffs like that. If i want to know about these silly jokes, i read Tom's Hardware or i read some books on Safari. The question is not "which port is better?". The question is "who cares?!" :) "If it's not on fire, then it's a software problem" Cheers, The Fool ps.: Thanks for the 'covering fire' on that reply anyway :D Nelson Marques wrote: > If the other player has a low end mouse on PS2, then he will have > advantage over you, or you don't know that USB mice produce lower > reply rate than a PS2 ? Does your watch have a milisecond hand ? [...] and then again, I feel sorry for logitech costumers who use their lame drivers that have a huge problem with Direct Input. They can always drop using so called _dedicated_drivers_ because every usb HID device have to be compatible with HID standard thus resulting in proper and complete operation with default HID driver. Or ... or maybe Logitech is NOKIA* for computermice world ? By complete I mean every button working and not fancy flashing blue LED. - NOKIA phones are the best in being incompatible even with major standards - for example Bluetooth 1.1 :-) -- Mariusz Zielinski ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
1st) I'm using a PS2 converter 2nd) I won't use logitech drivers... 3rd) I won't buy a new mouse day by day, i bought it when it came out, i won't look forward for the newest stuff available... 4th) Do not blame any company on a steam mailing list... It is against steam, sugar... 5th) I'm a software guy, i don't really waste my time with hw stuff. I'm a developer, not a dummy with a soldering-iron in my hand all day. 6th) I wrote an _example_. It means, i'd like to explain that i can have "offline advantages", or "offline handicaps", just because that's life. It wasn't about mice or monitor size. Do you remember? An _example_. Grew up... If the other player has a low end mouse on PS2, then he will have advantage over you, or you don't know that USB mice produce lower reply rate than a PS2 ? Any doubt please contact your local logitech hotline and take your doubts away, anyway, if you are logitech costumer, for sure you will know that the Mouseman dual optical is still the best gaming mouse ever, and then again, I feel sorry for logitech costumers who use their lame drivers that have a huge problem with Direct Input. The Fool wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:08:38 +, wouter v/d Bergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When i was 56k i used to play on a 56k only Jolt server. They simply had a plugin running kicking all pings below 150. But I could give myself a ping of 150+ and still have an advantage over the 56kers (well unless max rates are enforced but then at the max they would still get loss/choke when I didn't) C'mon. You don't have advantages, if the rates are forced. On the other hand, you have advantages if you have a more powerful box than the others, because the game won't get laggy for you (i mean "SP lag", not server-client lag). I have an mx510 mouse. I have advantages against a low-end mouse player, etc, etc. You just can't manage it. You have to limit the rates, name the server to contain it is 4 56K players and that's all... You can't and you don't have to do more... So. There's no solution to be evenhanded in a game, especially with a game like CS. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
Mariusz Zielinski wrote: Nelson Marques wrote: > If the other player has a low end mouse on PS2, then he will have > advantage over you, or you don't know that USB mice produce lower > reply rate than a PS2 ? Does your watch have a milisecond hand ? nope, but it's Tag Heuer, so I do expect it to be very accurate. But the main issue is still that combined with low end chipsets, specially VIA it does mean a difference in some cases. [...] and then again, I feel sorry for logitech costumers who use their lame drivers that have a huge problem with Direct Input. They can always drop using so called _dedicated_drivers_ because every usb HID device have to be compatible with HID standard thus resulting in proper and complete operation with default HID driver. Or ... or maybe Logitech is NOKIA* for computermice world ? By complete I mean every button working and not fancy flashing blue LED. Dunno, but they are the biggest mice manufacturer and world leader in the business (OEM and no OEM), and no, I use Sony/Ericsson, nokia has become too faggish except for the communicator series. Actually I do use Logitech, but not exactly because their products can outcome their direct competitors (mainly MS Intellimouse), just because their good costumer support and costumer care. I live in Europe and all I can say is that Romanel Sur-Morges costumer support is great and they actually care, they faithfully respect the warranty and comes with a funny thing, my old mouse got with the wheel broken after 4 years, they replaced with a new one and I asked just for information if the warranty would be from the start again, for my surprise they confirmed that any product replaced with a new one, comes with full warranty (according to european laws), try that with another supplier, for instance, microsoft sends you to get third party parts on your local dealer (happened to me when requested for glidepads, since mine were worn off) (the true path to become a 'mouse engineer'). It's a question of service above all, but their products are great. Honestly, taking the Mouseman series off, the best you can get is a intellimouse. - NOKIA phones are the best in being incompatible even with major standards - for example Bluetooth 1.1 :-) -- Mariusz Zielinski ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
Nelson Marques wrote: > If the other player has a low end mouse on PS2, then he will have > advantage over you, or you don't know that USB mice produce lower > reply rate than a PS2 ? Does your watch have a milisecond hand ? [...] and then again, I feel sorry for logitech costumers who use their lame drivers that have a huge problem with Direct Input. They can always drop using so called _dedicated_drivers_ because every usb HID device have to be compatible with HID standard thus resulting in proper and complete operation with default HID driver. Or ... or maybe Logitech is NOKIA* for computermice world ? By complete I mean every button working and not fancy flashing blue LED. - NOKIA phones are the best in being incompatible even with major standards - for example Bluetooth 1.1 :-) -- Mariusz Zielinski ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
Logitech drivers blow chunks. All silliness asideI use a Logitech mouse with Microsoft drivers. - Original Message - From: "Matt Donnon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file > now this has just gotten silly > > - Original Message - > From: "Nelson Marques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:25 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file > > > > If the other player has a low end mouse on PS2, then he will have > > advantage over you, or you don't know that USB mice produce lower reply > > rate than a PS2 ? > > Any doubt please contact your local logitech hotline and take your > > doubts away, anyway, if you are logitech costumer, for sure you will > > know that the Mouseman dual optical is still the best gaming mouse ever, > > and then again, I feel sorry for logitech costumers who use their lame > > drivers that have a huge problem with Direct Input. > > > > The Fool wrote: > > > >>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:08:38 +, wouter v/d Bergh > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> When i was 56k i used to play on a 56k only Jolt server. > >>>> They simply had a plugin running kicking all pings below 150. > >>> > >>> > >>> But I could give myself a ping of 150+ and still have an advantage > >>> over the 56kers (well unless max rates are enforced but then at the > >>> max they would still get loss/choke when I didn't) > >> > >> > >> C'mon. You don't have advantages, if the rates are forced. > >> On the other hand, you have advantages if you have a more powerful box > >> than > >> the others, because the game won't get laggy for you (i mean "SP lag", > >> not > >> server-client lag). I have an mx510 mouse. I have advantages against a > >> low-end mouse player, etc, etc. > >> You just can't manage it. You have to limit the rates, name the server to > >> contain it is 4 56K players and that's all... You can't and you don't > >> have > >> to do more... > >> > >> So. There's no solution to be evenhanded in a game, especially with a > >> game > >> like CS. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
now this has just gotten silly - Original Message - From: "Nelson Marques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file If the other player has a low end mouse on PS2, then he will have advantage over you, or you don't know that USB mice produce lower reply rate than a PS2 ? Any doubt please contact your local logitech hotline and take your doubts away, anyway, if you are logitech costumer, for sure you will know that the Mouseman dual optical is still the best gaming mouse ever, and then again, I feel sorry for logitech costumers who use their lame drivers that have a huge problem with Direct Input. The Fool wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:08:38 +, wouter v/d Bergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When i was 56k i used to play on a 56k only Jolt server. They simply had a plugin running kicking all pings below 150. But I could give myself a ping of 150+ and still have an advantage over the 56kers (well unless max rates are enforced but then at the max they would still get loss/choke when I didn't) C'mon. You don't have advantages, if the rates are forced. On the other hand, you have advantages if you have a more powerful box than the others, because the game won't get laggy for you (i mean "SP lag", not server-client lag). I have an mx510 mouse. I have advantages against a low-end mouse player, etc, etc. You just can't manage it. You have to limit the rates, name the server to contain it is 4 56K players and that's all... You can't and you don't have to do more... So. There's no solution to be evenhanded in a game, especially with a game like CS. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
If the other player has a low end mouse on PS2, then he will have advantage over you, or you don't know that USB mice produce lower reply rate than a PS2 ? Any doubt please contact your local logitech hotline and take your doubts away, anyway, if you are logitech costumer, for sure you will know that the Mouseman dual optical is still the best gaming mouse ever, and then again, I feel sorry for logitech costumers who use their lame drivers that have a huge problem with Direct Input. The Fool wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:08:38 +, wouter v/d Bergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When i was 56k i used to play on a 56k only Jolt server. They simply had a plugin running kicking all pings below 150. But I could give myself a ping of 150+ and still have an advantage over the 56kers (well unless max rates are enforced but then at the max they would still get loss/choke when I didn't) C'mon. You don't have advantages, if the rates are forced. On the other hand, you have advantages if you have a more powerful box than the others, because the game won't get laggy for you (i mean "SP lag", not server-client lag). I have an mx510 mouse. I have advantages against a low-end mouse player, etc, etc. You just can't manage it. You have to limit the rates, name the server to contain it is 4 56K players and that's all... You can't and you don't have to do more... So. There's no solution to be evenhanded in a game, especially with a game like CS. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
Nathan Marcus wrote: Huh? D-i-a-l-u-p server, what is this? It has been so long since I've seen this, wait, I never have! Is it America Online, or is it the 4 dollar deal from the video store? Seriously, if you are thinking of hosting a server off of dialup, STOP!! _read_whole_damn_thread_then_answer_ AAARGH ! If you're such smartass you should know right away that whole thing is about a server for dialup users. -- Mariusz Zielinski ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
Huh? D-i-a-l-u-p server, what is this? It has been so long since I've seen this, wait, I never have! Is it America Online, or is it the 4 dollar deal from the video store? Seriously, if you are thinking of hosting a server off of dialup, STOP!! - Original Message - From: "Melissa Carley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:56 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file Hi! I was just wondering if anyone had a good sample server.cfg file for a CS 1.6 dialup server? I am looking to set one up, but unsure what the best sort of config would be. Any help would be appreciative! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
> Actually no. I didn't interpret it that way.. I understood the > question from the word go. My advice wrt to pppd is still valid. > Or just have pppd dish out 192.168.x.x IP's and have the server on the > same subnet.. You might even be able to get away with having the > server show in the LAN list (although I promise nothing). That will > prevent the broadbanders getting on. This depends on whether her 'community' is the ISP in question as well, which is not necessarily the case. We could play a guessing game as to the real problem Melissa's trying to resolve all day long. Oh, hold on, we have been since Tuesday afternoon... Cheers Andrew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:08:38 +, wouter v/d Bergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When i was 56k i used to play on a 56k only Jolt server. They simply had a plugin running kicking all pings below 150. But I could give myself a ping of 150+ and still have an advantage over the 56kers (well unless max rates are enforced but then at the max they would still get loss/choke when I didn't) C'mon. You don't have advantages, if the rates are forced. On the other hand, you have advantages if you have a more powerful box than the others, because the game won't get laggy for you (i mean "SP lag", not server-client lag). I have an mx510 mouse. I have advantages against a low-end mouse player, etc, etc. You just can't manage it. You have to limit the rates, name the server to contain it is 4 56K players and that's all... You can't and you don't have to do more... So. There's no solution to be evenhanded in a game, especially with a game like CS. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
I really love flames! Makes me "razz da falamaz" :D Keep it up, ladies. But don't write 15 mails/day next time: just rush the other guy's face with all your worst, and answer just the next day (read his reply a few mins. before, to get angry again ;) :D "Life is a joke" The Fool Eric (Deacon) wrote: Christ. I'm "annoyed" now, too. Do I get a cookie? No, but you do get troll of the year, for the third year running. Good boy! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:08:38 +, wouter v/d Bergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When i was 56k i used to play on a 56k only Jolt server. > They simply had a plugin running kicking all pings below 150. But I could give myself a ping of 150+ and still have an advantage over the 56kers (well unless max rates are enforced but then at the max they would still get loss/choke when I didn't) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
When i was 56k i used to play on a 56k only Jolt server. They simply had a plugin running kicking all pings below 150. Saint K. From: Peter Kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:51:05 + On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:39:14 +1300, Scott Pettit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Melissa Carley wrote: > You can't keep broadband users from joining unless you firewall off the > server from traffic outside known dialup subnets but using those rates > would make it very unenjoyable for broadband users and should be enough > to make them leave shortly after joining. Or just have pppd dish out 192.168.x.x IP's and have the server on the same subnet.. You might even be able to get away with having the server show in the LAN list (although I promise nothing). That will prevent the broadbanders getting on. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:39:14 +1300, Scott Pettit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Melissa Carley wrote: > You can't keep broadband users from joining unless you firewall off the > server from traffic outside known dialup subnets but using those rates > would make it very unenjoyable for broadband users and should be enough > to make them leave shortly after joining. Or just have pppd dish out 192.168.x.x IP's and have the server on the same subnet.. You might even be able to get away with having the server show in the LAN list (although I promise nothing). That will prevent the broadbanders getting on. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:23:31 +1300, Andrew Forsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:42 +1030, Melissa Carley wrote: > > I am trying to help out a gaming community, and as such they need to > > provide an alternative for gamers who just CANNOT get broadband of any > > form. So I am wanting to setup a CS dialup server so that they can > > play online without having to play against players that have > > broadband. > > > > I dont think it's such a silly request and quite annoyed in everyones > > response. > > > I think everyone has interpreted your question as: > "I have a dial up connection and want to run a CS server." > Which is simply not going to work for any modern fps game. Actually no. I didn't interpret it that way.. I understood the question from the word go. My advice wrt to pppd is still valid. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:03:02 -0600, Eric (Deacon) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a bold display of creativity, Peter Kirby wrote: > > There are many places in the world where broadband is absolutely > > unobtainable or prohibitively expensive. So it doesn't surprise me a > > great deal to hear this kind of thing. > > Lies. This is a SERVER he's talking about running, not a client. How > many Ford Escort owners do you know talking about using their vehicle to > start a business for transporting giant quarry diggers? You know I really don't think the modem was gonna be the server's internet access.. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
I concur, it's got to date back to 2000 if not 1999. - Original Message - From: "Elminst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy Brooking Eric (Deacon) wrote: > Christ. I'm "annoyed" now, too. Do I get a cookie? No, but you do get troll of the year, for the third year running. Good boy! Third?? this has gotta be at least the fifth... ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
I concur, it's got to date back to 2000 if not 1999. - Original Message - From: "Elminst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy Brooking Eric (Deacon) wrote: > Christ. I'm "annoyed" now, too. Do I get a cookie? No, but you do get troll of the year, for the third year running. Good boy! Third?? this has gotta be at least the fifth... ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy > Brooking > > Eric (Deacon) wrote: > > > Christ. I'm "annoyed" now, too. Do I get a cookie? > > > No, but you do get troll of the year, for the third year running. > > Good boy! Third?? this has gotta be at least the fifth... ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
AHH I thought you ment running a server on your dialup :d sorry. - Original Message - From: "Melissa Carley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file I am trying to help out a gaming community, and as such they need to provide an alternative for gamers who just CANNOT get broadband of any form. So I am wanting to setup a CS dialup server so that they can play online without having to play against players that have broadband. I dont think it's such a silly request and quite annoyed in everyones response. I have asked a question in regards to how to configure a server, it's not like I havent configured a server before but I was after some ideas on the best setup as I haven't actually done a dial-up server before. Instead of writing back useless threads of bitching and carrying on, why not actually write back something constructive? There may actually be other people out there who actually want to know the answer to my question. On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:15:56 +0100, The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (...)How > many Ford Escort owners do you know talking about using their vehicle > to > start a business for transporting giant quarry diggers? Why? Do you know a workaround to manage it? If yes, i get an escort :D ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
Christ. I'm "annoyed" now, too. Do I get a cookie? sure, chocolate chip? Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
Eric (Deacon) wrote: Christ. I'm "annoyed" now, too. Do I get a cookie? No, but you do get troll of the year, for the third year running. Good boy! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
In a bold display of creativity, Melissa Carley wrote: Instead of writing back useless threads of bitching and carrying on, why not actually write back something constructive? Because you couldn't be bothered to communicate clearly in the first place? Here's your entire request for info: > I was just wondering if anyone had a good sample server.cfg file for > a CS 1.6 dialup server? And now here's "something constructive" for you: You're "annoyed" that people responded that you must be joking? Running a CS 1.6 server on dialup is just plain silly. If you had perhaps taken the time and care to actually communicate what you wanted, Melissa, instead of throwing out a one-liner request that utterly failed to do so, you would have received different responses. Christ. I'm "annoyed" now, too. Do I get a cookie? -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
Melissa Carley wrote: I am trying to help out a gaming community, and as such they need to provide an alternative for gamers who just CANNOT get broadband of any form. So I am wanting to setup a CS dialup server so that they can play online without having to play against players that have broadband. I dont think it's such a silly request and quite annoyed in everyones response. I have asked a question in regards to how to configure a server, it's not like I havent configured a server before but I was after some ideas on the best setup as I haven't actually done a dial-up server before. Instead of writing back useless threads of bitching and carrying on, why not actually write back something constructive? There may actually be other people out there who actually want to know the answer to my question. I think everyone thought you wanted to run a server on dialup, which of course would be silly ;-) As for a config, just use a standard config but you'll want: sv_maxrate 4500 sv_minrate 2000 sv_maxupdaterate 30 sv_minupdaterate 10 You can't keep broadband users from joining unless you firewall off the server from traffic outside known dialup subnets but using those rates would make it very unenjoyable for broadband users and should be enough to make them leave shortly after joining. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
I guess hes wanting to know of any way to make it so you cant join the server unless your ping is say...150 or higher? much like you could do with quake3 - Original Message - From: "Andrew Forsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file > On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:42 +1030, Melissa Carley wrote: > > I am trying to help out a gaming community, and as such they need to > > provide an alternative for gamers who just CANNOT get broadband of any > > form. So I am wanting to setup a CS dialup server so that they can > > play online without having to play against players that have > > broadband. > > > > I dont think it's such a silly request and quite annoyed in everyones > > response. > > > I think everyone has interpreted your question as: > "I have a dial up connection and want to run a CS server." > Which is simply not going to work for any modern fps game. > > When what you most likely mean is: > "I have a CS server (on a decent connection of some sort) and want to > tune it so my dial up users get the best possible service." > In which case you will need to fiddle with the rates to make the server > unattractive to broadband users, but perfectly serviceable for those > with higher latency and lower rates. > > Yes? No? > > Cheers > Andrew > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:42 +1030, Melissa Carley wrote: > I am trying to help out a gaming community, and as such they need to > provide an alternative for gamers who just CANNOT get broadband of any > form. So I am wanting to setup a CS dialup server so that they can > play online without having to play against players that have > broadband. > > I dont think it's such a silly request and quite annoyed in everyones > response. I think everyone has interpreted your question as: "I have a dial up connection and want to run a CS server." Which is simply not going to work for any modern fps game. When what you most likely mean is: "I have a CS server (on a decent connection of some sort) and want to tune it so my dial up users get the best possible service." In which case you will need to fiddle with the rates to make the server unattractive to broadband users, but perfectly serviceable for those with higher latency and lower rates. Yes? No? Cheers Andrew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
I am trying to help out a gaming community, and as such they need to provide an alternative for gamers who just CANNOT get broadband of any form. So I am wanting to setup a CS dialup server so that they can play online without having to play against players that have broadband. I dont think it's such a silly request and quite annoyed in everyones response. I have asked a question in regards to how to configure a server, it's not like I havent configured a server before but I was after some ideas on the best setup as I haven't actually done a dial-up server before. Instead of writing back useless threads of bitching and carrying on, why not actually write back something constructive? There may actually be other people out there who actually want to know the answer to my question. On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:15:56 +0100, The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (...)How > > many Ford Escort owners do you know talking about using their vehicle to > > start a business for transporting giant quarry diggers? > > Why? Do you know a workaround to manage it? If yes, i get an escort :D > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
(...)How many Ford Escort owners do you know talking about using their vehicle to start a business for transporting giant quarry diggers? Why? Do you know a workaround to manage it? If yes, i get an escort :D ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
In a bold display of creativity, Peter Kirby wrote: > There are many places in the world where broadband is absolutely > unobtainable or prohibitively expensive. So it doesn't surprise me a > great deal to hear this kind of thing. Lies. This is a SERVER he's talking about running, not a client. How many Ford Escort owners do you know talking about using their vehicle to start a business for transporting giant quarry diggers? Now come on admit it. You miss the sound of a good V32bis train as much as the rest of us... Before all that new fangled X2 and VFC stuff came along Not even one little bit. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:23:16 -0600, Eric (Deacon) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're bothering to reply? I thought this thread was a joke... There are many places in the world where broadband is absolutely unobtainable or prohibitively expensive. So it doesn't surprise me a great deal to hear this kind of thing. Now come on admit it. You miss the sound of a good V32bis train as much as the rest of us... Before all that new fangled X2 and VFC stuff came along ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
You're bothering to reply? I thought this thread was a joke... -- Eric (the Deacon remix) In a bold display of creativity, Peter Kirby wrote: On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:26:26 +1030, Melissa Carley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! I was just wondering if anyone had a good sample server.cfg file for a CS 1.6 dialup server? I am looking to set one up, but unsure what the best sort of config would be. Any help would be appreciative! Well if you want to run dialup from the CS server.. Then there is indeed no hope.. However if you want a bank of modems for which people can dial in and play CS together... Then yes it's possible. But as far as the CS server is concerned it doesn't care how the players are connecting. That is you setup PPPD etc to accept the calls on your modems and assign IP's etc. Then these players can join your server (either you make the server LAN and have pppd give broadcast address to PPPD clients - Not 100% sure this will work - or make sure everyone know IP to connect to once connected). You might of course want to set up min/max rates according to the dialup parameters too. Of course in general not many people use dialup now-days though. Also disabling compression/error checking on modems might decrease lag somewhat but would force the use of lower rates (maybe impossibly low rates).. So I'm not sure whether that's worthwhile. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:26:26 +1030, Melissa Carley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I was just wondering if anyone had a good sample server.cfg file for a > CS 1.6 dialup server? > > I am looking to set one up, but unsure what the best sort of config > would be. Any help would be appreciative! Well if you want to run dialup from the CS server.. Then there is indeed no hope.. However if you want a bank of modems for which people can dial in and play CS together... Then yes it's possible. But as far as the CS server is concerned it doesn't care how the players are connecting. That is you setup PPPD etc to accept the calls on your modems and assign IP's etc. Then these players can join your server (either you make the server LAN and have pppd give broadcast address to PPPD clients - Not 100% sure this will work - or make sure everyone know IP to connect to once connected). You might of course want to set up min/max rates according to the dialup parameters too. Of course in general not many people use dialup now-days though. Also disabling compression/error checking on modems might decrease lag somewhat but would force the use of lower rates (maybe impossibly low rates).. So I'm not sure whether that's worthwhile. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file
No hope buddy.. No hope. - Original Message - From: "Melissa Carley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Counter Strike 1.6 Dialup Server config file Hi! I was just wondering if anyone had a good sample server.cfg file for a CS 1.6 dialup server? I am looking to set one up, but unsure what the best sort of config would be. Any help would be appreciative! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
